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Want Energy Independence Tomorrow? Oust Barack Obama And His Minions.

by Flyovercountry ( 174 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Business, Economy, Energy at May 17th, 2012 - 3:00 pm

Michael Ramirez Cartoon

While spending the last two months or so traveling around the country pretending that it was not campaigning, Barack Obama has spent considerable resources informing us that he is doing everything humanly possible for a President to expand America’s oil and natural gas production. I have seen television ads which proclaimed him to be the domestic oil and gas production king, even though one of his campaign promises was to do what ever he could to, “send subtle and gradual price signals through the energy markets in order to help Americans see that the green economy was the more prudent economic option.” Or, as he explained to NPR during one of his rare candid interviews in July of 2007, he felt that $4.00 a gallon gasoline was ultimately good for the country, but that those price levels for gasoline should not have been reached as suddenly as they were at that time. His view was that those price levels should have taken a course of 3 to 4 years to develop. Sound familiar? It should, as this is the reality of Barack Obama’s term as President. Now of course that his promise has been kept, he is blaming George W. Bush for his vision becoming reality, as Americans don’t seem to be too thrilled with that Green Fairy after all.

Gas prices not withstanding, some truth telling is in order. You will hear much in the next 5 months about ending our dependence on foreign oil. Both Democrats and Republicans really mean it. There are major differences however in how they would go about implementing it, and in the consequences that these two methods would bring about. When Democrats say that they wish to wean us off of foreign oil, they mean that they wish to have us stop using energy for other than the barest of living necessities all together. No more driving to work in cars, no more heating our houses beyond 54 degrees, no more air conditioning, no more traveling on family vacations, no more fun vehicles, no more lighting after dark, no more of anything that was not approved by a bureaucratic panel of politically connected appointees, and most of all, they wish to see no more robust economic growth and viability for our citizenry.

When Republicans say that they want to end our dependence on foreign oil, they mean that they want to stick two pipes into the ground and suck our reserves dryer than a Saturday Afternoon watching Monty Python television reruns. This is a solution by the way which would promote a vigorous growth for our manufacturing sector, something which I have heard every liberal economist whining about endlessly since the late 1960’s, Cheap affordable energy is perhaps the single most important ingredient for a vibrant manufacturing base. While we have just found out within the last two weeks that our own country has enough recoverable oil to make it possible that we never again write a check to any oil producing company outside of our own borders, production on federal lands has been nearly shut down completely. The dishonest Obama boast of being the undisputed king of domestic production neglects a fairly important fact, conveniently omitted I might add. That production has been in spite of Obama’s efforts and not because of them. It has all occurred on privately owned property mostly within the State of North Dakota.

The good news for Americans though is that we do not live in a vacuum. Barack Obama in one of the speeches delivered by his teleprompter, instructs us to look to Europe and their implementation of the Green Fairy Economy. Of course we should look at Europe in this matter. There is no reason I can think of that we would need to replicate their disastrous failure by following this path. We still have time to reverse our course and get rid of those moronic road blocks that are hell bent on destroying our economy and economic well being. Those road blocks are aptly identified as the Democrat Party and the EPA.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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  1. Bob in Breckenridge
    1 | May 17, 2012 3:10 pm

    While spending the last two months three years or so traveling around the country pretending that it was not campaigning, Barack Obama has spent considerable resources informing us that he is doing everything humanly possible for a President to expand America’s oil and natural gas production.

    FIFY. No charge, of course. :)


  2. Lily
    2 | May 17, 2012 3:14 pm

    I posted this on the bottom thread…seems more fitting here though.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfIfxmni_Eg&feature=player_embedded


  3. buzzsawmonkey
    3 | May 17, 2012 3:22 pm

    Santa should leave lumps of coal in Obama’s and Biden’s stockings regardless of how the election comes out.


  4. Lily
    4 | May 17, 2012 3:26 pm

    Excellent post flyovercountry…my husband who works in the petro-chem industry says the United States has enough oil, natural gas, coal to last us a very long time. He says it is a huge lie that we don’t.


  5. 5 | May 17, 2012 3:27 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Santa should leave lumps of coal in up Obama’s and Biden’s stockings asses regardless of how the election comes out.

    There, fixed that for ya!


  6. Lily
    6 | May 17, 2012 3:28 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Santa should leave lumps of coal in Obama’s and Biden’s stockings regardless of how the election comes out.

    Indeed. Not to mention just looking at coal would scare the crap out of them and then they would think they are going to die, if they actually believe the crap they spew…but of course I don’t think they believe what they purport to the masses.


  7. Bob in Breckenridge
    7 | May 17, 2012 3:30 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Excellent post flyovercountry…my husband who works in the petro-chem industry says the United States has enough oil, natural gas, coal to last us a very long time. He says it is a huge lie that we don’t.

    There’s enough oil shale in Colorado alone to last 100 years.


  8. buzzsawmonkey
    8 | May 17, 2012 3:32 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    There’s enough oil shale in Colorado alone to last 100 years.

    It’ll be funny to watch Shell Oil re-brand itself to “Shale Oil.”


  9. Bob in Breckenridge
    9 | May 17, 2012 3:33 pm

    How much oil shale is there, you ask?

    A 2005 estimate set the total world resources of oil shale at 411 gigatons — equivalent to yield of 2.8 to 3.3 trillion barrels (450×109 to 520×109 m3) of shale oil though only a part of it is recoverable.[3][4][5] According to the 2010 World Energy Outlook by the International Energy Agency, the world oil shale resources may be equivalent of more than 5 trillion barrels (790×109 m3) of oil in place of which more than 1 trillion barrels (160×109 m3) may be technically recoverable.[19] For comparison, the world’s proven conventional oil reserves estimated at 1.317 trillion barrels (209.4×109 m3), as of 1 January 2007.[22] The largest deposits in the world occur in the United States in the Green River Formation, which covers portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming; about 70% of this resource lies on land owned or managed by the United States federal government.[23] Deposits in the United States constitute 62% of world resources.


  10. huckfunn
    10 | May 17, 2012 3:34 pm


    Dealers in all 57 states. :grin:


  11. buzzsawmonkey
    11 | May 17, 2012 3:36 pm

    It’d be funny to watch a remake of Shane, titled Shale. A group of small businessmen—homesteaders, if you will—are trying to get cheap energy so that the businesses in the valley can prosper, but they are fought at every turn by the minions of the corrupt “green power” establishment.

    Just when all seems lost, a stranger rides into town. Called “Shale,” he helps the businessmen fight back against the Big Wind Ranch and his gang of vicious bike riders.


  12. buzzsawmonkey
    12 | May 17, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    HA!


  13. huckfunn
    13 | May 17, 2012 3:48 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Just when all seems lost, a stranger rides into town. Called “Shale,” he helps the businessmen fight back against the Big Wind Ranch and his gang of vicious bike riders.

    Doesn’t Romney remind you a lot of Alan Ladd? :roll:
    httpv://youtu.be/SWdPmapuOd4


  14. 14 | May 17, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Shale! Come back Shale! 8)


  15. Bob in Breckenridge
    15 | May 17, 2012 3:56 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Dealers in all 57 states.

    That’s hilarious, especially the “dealers in all 57 states”. :)


  16. heysoos
    16 | May 17, 2012 3:56 pm

    heh…Buzz is on the loose…good times….but he still can’t carry a tune


  17. huckfunn
    17 | May 17, 2012 4:00 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Shale! Come back Shale!

    That was a great film. Funny thing. Alan Ladd was a little short guy who wore elevator shoes. Almost all of the camera angles of him were looking up at him rather than down.


  18. heysoos
    18 | May 17, 2012 4:01 pm

    Gone With The Windpower…


  19. huckfunn
    19 | May 17, 2012 4:03 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Dealers in all 57 states.

    That’s hilarious, especially the “dealers in all 57 states”.

    Here’s another:


  20. heysoos
    20 | May 17, 2012 4:03 pm

    Solarball…


  21. 21 | May 17, 2012 4:09 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Excellent post flyovercountry…my husband who works in the petro-chem industry says the United States has enough oil, natural gas, coal to last us a very long time. He says it is a huge lie that we don’t.

    We could be exporters, especially if we build an infrastructure to power cars on natural gas.


  22. 22 | May 17, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Hey I liked your thread yesterday!


  23. 23 | May 17, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ Rancher:

    I totally agree! We can tell the Muzz to go eat sand!


  24. 24 | May 17, 2012 4:14 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I thought it was especially good as well.


  25. 25 | May 17, 2012 4:16 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Your thread is good also. Then again, all your threads are grand slams!


  26. 26 | May 17, 2012 4:17 pm

    Whew! Man, I’m glad that Obama recovery is in full swing now!

    HP may lay off 25,000

    Hewlett-Packard Co. is considering cutting as many as 25,000 jobs, or 8 percent of its workforce, to reduce costs and help the company contend with ebbing demand for computers and services, people briefed on the plans said.


  27. 27 | May 17, 2012 4:19 pm

    Joe Lieberman is saying on Hannity that he is undecided on who he will vote for, Obama or Romney. Really Joe?


  28. EBL
    28 | May 17, 2012 4:19 pm

    Barack Obama’s literary agent is a birther?

    Okay. This has definitely been a bad week for Obama.

    Granted, that statement was back in 1991. But jeez louise. You would almost think he was throwing this thing.


  29. 29 | May 17, 2012 4:23 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    This is the greatest economic recovery in global history!
    //////


  30. heysoos
    30 | May 17, 2012 4:23 pm

    @ Rancher:
    if it matters, it went over my head


  31. 31 | May 17, 2012 4:27 pm

    EBL wrote:

    You would almost think he was throwing this thing.

    LOL, I was banned from LGF for saying Obama had dual citizenship, Kenyan and American. Funny thing is that according to Obama’s own website I was right, at least till age 23.


  32. 32 | May 17, 2012 4:33 pm

    @ Rancher:

    If Obama sr. was his real dad. If you look at pictures of Frank Marshall Davis and Obama, you will see the resemblance.


  33. RIX
    33 | May 17, 2012 4:33 pm

    OK , the Code Pink Gals arrived in town today.
    This is the same day that the protesting clowns
    launch the Cream Pie War.
    Coincidence? This joke tells itself.


  34. 34 | May 17, 2012 4:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    if it matters, it went over my head

    The thing is I know that Joe knows what a disaster Obama has been, he just won’t say it. Bill Clinton knows what a disaster Obama has been, he just can’t throw Hillary’s 2016 chances away by saying it. There is lots of buyers remorse out there from liberals as well as independents but people aren’t ready to admit it yet. They will. Obama has jumped the shark and will loose big in November. He will even have trouble with Black voters.


  35. 35 | May 17, 2012 4:34 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Rancher:
    if it matters, it went over my head

    1) Aren’t you at least curious where the “born in Kenya” myth originated?
    2) If it originated with Obama himself, doesn’t that speak directly to basic, personal honesty?


  36. heysoos
    36 | May 17, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ Rodan:
    many people have said I look remarkably like Marilyn Monroe…
    jus sayin


  37. 37 | May 17, 2012 4:36 pm

    RIX wrote:

    OK , the Code Pink Gals arrived in town today.
    This is the same day that the protesting clowns
    launch the Cream Pie War.
    Coincidence? This joke tells itself.

    Yet they desperately want to be taken seriously. Go figure.


  38. 38 | May 17, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Hey, you never know!!!!!!!1

    Whose your Mama!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :lol:


  39. Guggi
    39 | May 17, 2012 4:38 pm

    GOP super PAC rejects plan to invoke Jeremiah Wright

    The founder of a conservative super PAC has rejected a proposal that would link President Obama to his former pastor Jeremiah Wright, a line of attack that the GOP rejected in 2008 and one which presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney repudiated today.

    (…)


  40. 40 | May 17, 2012 4:38 pm

    Actually I am convinced Obama is the offspring of an Ancient ALien. He was found in an incubator and hatched in Area 51.


  41. heysoos
    41 | May 17, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    no, i don’t care where BO was born…in fact I don’t even care if he’s a human…I just don’t give a shit about almost anything you can think of…I concentrate on myself and my kids…politics is entertainment for me…just what do you expect of the feds if Romney is elected?…he’s as clueless as BO anyday, but go for it…I don’t judge you personally


  42. RIX
    42 | May 17, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ Guggi:
    Mistake


  43. 43 | May 17, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ heysoos:

    in fact I don’t even care if he’s a human

    He’s not. He’s an Alien hatchling. He looks like ET’s brother! I have the proof!


  44. Guggi
    44 | May 17, 2012 4:43 pm

    Methane hydrate technology fuels a new energy regime

    Methane hydrates constitute the world’s No. 1 reservoir of fossil fuel. Ubiquitous along vast stretches of Earth’s continental shelves, they hold enough natural gas to fuel the world for a thousand years – and beyond. Who says so? Using the most conservative of assumptions, the U.S. Geological and Geophysical Service says so. The U.S. now produces 21 trillion cubic feet (tcf) of natural gas a year. But it possesses 330,000 tcf of natural gas in its methane hydrate resource – theoretically enough to supply the country for 3,000 years (give or take). Using less conservative numbers, the U.S. is good to go for 6,000 years (give or take).


  45. Lily
    45 | May 17, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ RIX:

    Actually from what I can gather..they don’t have to because Rev.Wright will do it himself. He is out for blood.


  46. Guggi
    46 | May 17, 2012 4:45 pm

    U.S. may offer shale gas in liquefied form to India

    India and the U.S., on Tuesday, held talks on weaning New Delhi away from dependence on Iranian oil and while both sides stated their known positions on the issue, one positive outcome of the talks, which were wide ranging in nature and not focussed just on Iran, was the possibility of India importing shale gas in liquefied form from the U.S.


  47. heysoos
    47 | May 17, 2012 4:45 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I believe it…an ancient alien fucked some simp and here we are…so yeah?….proof of our simp/alien genetics are easily found in Eagles fans and a surprising number of liberals


  48. RIX
    48 | May 17, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ Guggi:
    Mr. Rickets is the patriarch of the family that owns
    the Cubs & Wrigley Field.
    They are reporting that Mayor Emanuel is livid, even
    over the thought, “It insults the President & the country”
    Duh, the whole point is to insult the President.
    Here is the problem, the Rickets family is trying to get
    public money to renovate Wrigley. It is being reported
    that Emanuel will now not take their calls.


  49. 49 | May 17, 2012 4:50 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    no, i don’t care where BO was born…in fact I don’t even care if he’s a human…I just don’t give a shit about almost anything you can think of…I concentrate on myself and my kids…politics is entertainment for me…just what do you expect of the feds if Romney is elected?…he’s as clueless as BO anyday, but go for it…I don’t judge you personally

    “I don’t give a shit about anything” is always a pretty powerful argument; forgive me for intruding on your apathy. I didn’t notice since you were, you know, posting opinions and all. Sometimes it’s hard to tell.


  50. Lily
    50 | May 17, 2012 4:50 pm

    Lies from 2008 that should come to haunt him.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7vAEBApWOdM


  51. Guggi
    51 | May 17, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ RIX:

    Then he shouldn’t have started the thing…..


  52. 52 | May 17, 2012 4:51 pm

    Rev. Wright has accused the O of bribery although it was through a third party. Still illegal if it had happened, ask John Edwards. The good Rev. wasn’t about to shut up though. Still conspiracy to commit right. Eric Holder should get on this forthwith.


  53. Lily
    53 | May 17, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ Lily:

    Let me try again…

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7vAEBApWOdM


  54. heysoos
    54 | May 17, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    it’s fun a generally I like the people…but in no way am I a slave to the feds or any govt machine, political party or ideology…I take it one person and one issue at a time…that’s why people dislike me…I won’t submit


  55. Lily
    55 | May 17, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ Lily:

    Curses youtube!!!!


  56. 56 | May 17, 2012 4:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Actually I am convinced Obama is the offspring of an Ancient ALien. He was found in an incubator and hatched in Area 51.

    I don’t care who you are, that is just plain funny… :mrgreen:


  57. RIX
    57 | May 17, 2012 4:54 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Actually from what I can gather..they don’t have to because Rev.Wright will do it himself. He is out for blood

    .

    That is a beautiful thing. But the hypocricy
    is palpable. If Romney spent 20 years in a White
    Supremacist Church, the same people would see it
    as fair game.


  58. Lily
    58 | May 17, 2012 4:56 pm

    @ RIX:

    Oh indeed. But I think Rev. Wright will do it better. Just stand back and let the shit fly so to speak.


  59. 59 | May 17, 2012 4:57 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Actually I am convinced Obama is the offspring of an Ancient ALien. He was found in an incubator and hatched in Area 51.

    And Obama is the best the aliens could come up with? Geez, what a bunch of losers!


  60. RIX
    60 | May 17, 2012 4:58 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Then he shouldn’t have started the thing…..

    Actually, I think that Obama started it & continued
    it for 20 years in that Church.
    Emanuel is a Clinton & Obama Weasel.
    He is a world class smear merchant, who is now
    offended at the truth?


  61. 62 | May 17, 2012 5:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    That is a beautiful thing. But the hypocricy
    is palpable. If Romney spent 20 years in a White
    Supremacist Church, the same people would see it
    as fair game.

    Romney’s spent is life as unrepentant capitalist, and that’s kinda the same thing in their book.


  62. Lily
    63 | May 17, 2012 5:02 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    Actually I am convinced Obama is the offspring of an Ancient ALien. He was found in an incubator and hatched in Area 51.

    And Obama is the best the aliens could come up with? Geez, what a bunch of losers!

    The real thing here is that apparently the aliens have rejected him because they haven’t come back for him. When aliens don’t come back for you then you know you are a real loser. ;)


  63. 64 | May 17, 2012 5:03 pm

    Lily wrote:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/17/video-7-times-in-2008-obama-promised-to-create-7-million-new-jobs/

    He also promised to cool the Earth. Hell, I’m pretty cool, so I’ll give him that one.


  64. Lily
    65 | May 17, 2012 5:03 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Then he shouldn’t have started the thing…..

    Actually, I think that Obama started it & continued
    it for 20 years in that Church.
    Emanuel is a Clinton & Obama Weasel.
    He is a world class smear merchant, who is now
    offended at the truth?

    Rahm’s chickens coming home to roost? How rich!


  65. Lily
    67 | May 17, 2012 5:04 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/17/video-7-times-in-2008-obama-promised-to-create-7-million-new-jobs/

    He also promised to cool the Earth. Hell, I’m pretty cool, so I’ll give him that one.

    He also promised to lower the oceans….and he hasn’t done that so EPIC FAIL. ;)


  66. Guggi
    68 | May 17, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ RIX:

    Emanuel is a typical Jewish leftwinger par excellence but there may be some hope in the Jewish community:

    The End of the Jewish Left

    Political theorist Michael Walzer and others argue about the death of the century-long Jewish-Leftist alliance

    (…)

    A 2005 Pew study found that Jews were the single most liberal religious group in America. Last month, a poll of American Jews showed that 62 percent planned to vote for Barack Obama in November—down from the 78 percent he got in 2008, but still more than twice as much as the 29 percent who said they would vote for Mitt Romney. Depending on your point of view, the still-durable association of Jews with liberalism and the Democratic Party is a source of either pride or bafflement (as in Norman Podhoretz’s plaintively titled Why Are Jews Liberals?).

    Looked at another way, however, the softening mainstream liberalism of American Jews can be seen as the feeble remnant of what was once a fiery and uncompromising leftism. Indeed, as historian Tony Michels said at the YIVO conference, the history of American Communism “cannot be understood without Jews.” But the mood of the conference was best summed up in the title of the keynote address, by the political philosopher Michael Walzer: “The Strangeness of Jewish Leftism.” What was once a proud inheritance now seems like a problem in need of a solution. For many Jews, it remains axiomatic that Judaism is a religion of social justice and progress; the phrase “tikkun olam” has become a convenient shorthand for the idea that Judaism is best expressed in “repair of the world.”

    In his speech, and in his new book In God’s Shadow: Politics and the Hebrew Bible, Walzer offers a contrary vision of traditional Judaism, which he argues “offers precious little support to left politics”—a truth that he recognized would surprise those who, like himself, “grew up believing that Judaism and socialism were pretty much the same thing.” If a leftist political message cannot readily be found in the traditions of Judaism, it follows that the explosion of Jewish leftism in the late 19th century was actually a rupture with Jewish history, and potentially a traumatic one.

    ***

    Walzer’s reluctance to associate Judaism too simply with leftist politics, or indeed with any politics, represents a break from his earlier thinking.

    (…)


  67. Lily
    69 | May 17, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Thank you {Rancher}! Curses on youtube!!!! ;)
    /it is mocking me today.


  68. heysoos
    70 | May 17, 2012 5:06 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Romney is every bit as out of touch with the average folk as BO…it’s just that they are polar opposites ideologically, where they meet on the backside…we are fucked over the short haul of a few campaign cycles…both are deep into Wall Street, the true master of us all…the rest is just MSM fluff…they may have most of America enthralled, but not me


  69. 71 | May 17, 2012 5:08 pm

    RIX wrote:

    If Romney spent 20 years in a White
    Supremacist Church, the same people would see it
    as fair game.

    They see his high school years fair game! We know nothing about how Obama got in college especially if his last two years were passed in a drug and alcohol haze nor do we know anything about his college career.


  70. Lily
    72 | May 17, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Lots of smoke and mirrors!!!


  71. citizen_q
    73 | May 17, 2012 5:09 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Oh indeed. But I think Rev. Wright will do it better. Just stand back and let the shit fly so to speak.

    May it be like the love between shites and sunnis.


  72. Lily
    74 | May 17, 2012 5:10 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Oh indeed. But I think Rev. Wright will do it better. Just stand back and let the shit fly so to speak.

    May it be like the love between shites and sunnis.

    You know you aren’t so far off base with that comment.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:


  73. heysoos
    75 | May 17, 2012 5:12 pm

    consider…
    the entire country sees BO as our first black president…but he isn’t…and to deny this one simple truth tells me all I need to know about Him and the electorate…if BO is black then the moon is made of green cheese….we are dishonest with ourselves which is how BO was elected in the first place


  74. 76 | May 17, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ Guggi:
    So he won’t be getting as many Jewish votes either? I updated by blog post with that, thanks.


  75. 77 | May 17, 2012 5:16 pm

    off topic, latest from the joeman

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSl_yb7KKq8&feature=g-all-u


  76. 78 | May 17, 2012 5:17 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Romney is every bit as out of touch with the average folk as BO…it’s just that they are polar opposites ideologically, where they meet on the backside…we are fucked over the short haul of a few campaign cycles…both are deep into Wall Street, the true master of us all…the rest is just MSM fluff…they may have most of America enthralled, but not me

    My compliments on not being hoodwinked like so many of us. Clearly, “fuck ‘em all” is the superior strategy.


  77. Lily
    79 | May 17, 2012 5:19 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Cindy Sue gets around. ;)


  78. Mars
    80 | May 17, 2012 5:19 pm

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/05/17/londons-amazingly-explicit-surveillance-state-mascot-for-the-2012-olympics-has-a-huge-camera-eye-that-records-everything/

    Am I the only one who finds the concept behind the current Olympic mascots creepy?

    Or is there someone on the committee that wants to send a message to our Muslim friends and their giant Mosque.


  79. Lily
    81 | May 17, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ Mars:

    Being that it is London heaven only knows. ;)


  80. heysoos
    82 | May 17, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    it’s hardly original…I just hate the feds and do not trust them…it’s not so much the politics, it’s the govt itself lording over us all….I don’t have any answers, but I know how I feel…it’s not so much right or left, it’s more about power and influence…the prime directive is to get re-elected…do anything, say anything, just get elected


  81. Guggi
    83 | May 17, 2012 5:26 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    I updated by blog post with that, thanks.

    You’re welcome


  82. 84 | May 17, 2012 5:26 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I believe you’ve hit exactly on the sentiments of pretty much most of the folks here, if not in the entire country.


  83. 85 | May 17, 2012 5:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    it’s hardly original…I just hate the feds and do not trust them…it’s not so much the politics, it’s the govt itself lording over us all….I don’t have any answers, but I know how I feel…it’s not so much right or left, it’s more about power and influence…the prime directive is to get re-elected…do anything, say anything, just get elected

    You’re right, it’s not original. Perhaps I should have indicated my sarcasm.


  84. Mars
    86 | May 17, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Finally something I agree with. There are minor differences. I was kind of working on a possible article on here detailing that, but I’ve hit some writers block. Lets just say it’s all in the differences. It’s also why Republicans think short term and the dems think long term.

    Republican think in terms of personal power. Dems think in terms of party power.

    One group is dedicated to the promotion of their own into positions of power for all eternity no matter the amount of destruction that it causes the country.

    The other only is after personal political power, and has no dedication to the next person trying to reach that goal. It is a less damaging philosophy, but it also means that they lose to the dems more. At least this type of belief system means they are more willing to give in to the demands of conservatives. They are worried about their own personal reelection chances.

    Dems are less worried about personal reelection (though it is a focus) and more dedicated to creating an eternal bureaucracy that keeps as many liberals in positions of power as possible. They know that if they fall from power there is a liberal safety net ready to grab them up and sweep them into the media or into academia.


  85. Mars
    87 | May 17, 2012 5:33 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    That’s the belief system I had when I was in high school. It took about two years of military to show me that apathy was going to destroy us.


  86. heysoos
    88 | May 17, 2012 5:33 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    I take each post on it’s written merit…however you need to get your point across is your affair


  87. Lily
    89 | May 17, 2012 5:34 pm

    @ Mars:

    Not voting is not the way.


  88. Mars
    90 | May 17, 2012 5:36 pm

    @ Lily:
    Exactly. With the level of fraud in the Dem party, any vote not cast is truly for O.


  89. heysoos
    91 | May 17, 2012 5:38 pm

    @ Mars:

    it’s complicated but you nailed it as best it can be…we have become an electorate of excuses and blame, forgetting solutions entirely and going with the pop image of the candidates…I have no answer to AmIdol politics….but it’s killing us


  90. Mars
    92 | May 17, 2012 5:43 pm

    One thing that must be kept in mind. On one hand you have a lunatic who will be able to write executive orders without any form of accountability or oversight. On the other you have a man who will be held accountable for his actions by an electorate come reelection time. Hopefully with a VP that actually would have a chance at the presidency.

    O is not going to moderate his stance to help Joe get a shot at the WH. Watch the new French Pres over the next few months. I think we will see some of O’s plans for us come to fruition there.


  91. The Osprey
    93 | May 17, 2012 5:43 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Actually I am convinced Obama is the offspring of an Ancient ALien. He was found in an incubator and hatched in Area 51.

    He came from Screwy Louie’s “Mothaship”! :lol:


  92. 94 | May 17, 2012 5:44 pm

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aCfR8rmrw&feature=player_embedded


  93. heysoos
    95 | May 17, 2012 5:45 pm

    @ Mars:
    @ Mars:
    Bidens career is over…get a body bag over here please


  94. Mars
    96 | May 17, 2012 5:46 pm

    Soros has as much said that he expects a lot more from O in a second term.


  95. 97 | May 17, 2012 5:47 pm

    While we have just found out within the last two weeks that our own country has enough recoverable oil to make it possible that we never again write a check to any oil producing company outside of our own borders…

    Uh, no. If you’re referring to that GAO chick commenting to congress on the Green River, the Green River has been known to contain a lot of hydrocarbons for many decades. And she was just parroting the latest USGS estimate, which is a couple of years old now. And at the moment, those hydrocarbons (NOT oil) are about as economical as scooping the abundant methane out of the atmosphere of Titan and bringing it back to Earth.


  96. Mars
    98 | May 17, 2012 5:49 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Exactly my point. There will be no tiptoeing around the agenda so Joe gets elected. They are in a win/win if O gets reelected. No matter how far to the left O gets (and it will be far) all they have to do is bring in a new candidate in four years who will claim to oppose O’s behavior and claim to be a moderate. That way they can continue a solid dem line for as long as possible. That is if O doesn’t find some way to extend his own presidency. (Yes I do think he’d go that rogue.)


  97. heysoos
    99 | May 17, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ Mars:

    pressure to repeat is enormous….maybe that’s a problem…
    think of the wealth, the time and the energy on your dime…the corporations rip it from the consumers then give it to their favorite politician at the moment…here’s an extra 10% if you put a rush on this, thanks, call ya next week


  98. Mars
    100 | May 17, 2012 5:53 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    My father worked for the USGS for years when I was young. It was well known that we have plenty of oil in this country for any foreseeable future. And that was just what based on what was easily available in Wy. He was able to watch the fake shortage crap be created under Carter. Drilling and refining were being regulated out of existence. The ones that could afford to continue found their leases terminated. It was one absurdity after another.

    At least finally Wy is able to access their natural gas, that is bringing that state back to where they were in the 70’s and 80’s.


  99. Mars
    101 | May 17, 2012 5:56 pm

    @ heysoos:
    The corporations “rip” it from the consumers. Interesting phrasing you have there. I consider the higher and higher taxes on everything to be far more similar to “ripping” anything. In my state alone, gas prices would be half what they are if the state and feds took off their parts and lowered what they are charging the oil companies to do their own job.


  100. heysoos
    102 | May 17, 2012 5:56 pm

    how is it that no one has invented a CO2 app…a device that turns it into Red Stripe?…c’mon humans, get it done


  101. Mars
  102. Guggi
    104 | May 17, 2012 5:57 pm

    RIP Donna Summer

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKQcWEXSKU


  103. 105 | May 17, 2012 5:58 pm

    @ Mars:
    @ heysoos:

    Personally, I can take only so much cynicism; “a pox on both their houses” isn’t a position or a strategy, it’s a tantrum. At some point one has to cast their lots with someone and I’ll take the Republicans. Does that make me a slave? No, it makes me a pragmatist because I believe them to be more in tune with my beliefs than the Democrats. Sorry, politicians being ‘about money and power’ is as old a concept as politics itself – hardly a revelation or a revolutionary idea. I’m no marrying them, I’m hiring them and someone’s going to get the job – even small differences mean a lot.


  104. Lily
    106 | May 17, 2012 5:59 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Interesting to say the least.


  105. Mars
    107 | May 17, 2012 6:01 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Yep. As Beck once said. Both parties are taking us to hell, it’s just that one is taking the slow boat, the other is taking the concord.

    Even if you don’t agree with or like Romney, he is going to ruin this country a hell of a lot slower than an unaccountable maniac with dictatorial powers of executive orders (that no one will have the balls to block).


  106. 108 | May 17, 2012 6:02 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Built by Space Nazis!


  107. heysoos
    109 | May 17, 2012 6:02 pm

    @ Mars:

    all true…ripped is just a euphamism…it all comes down to the consumer, whether by higher retail cost, or taxes or both….this whole Wall St/DC mob is sucking the life out of us…I’m no anarchist or OWS geek, but I tell you, this cannot go on…why the fuck do the feds resist tax law overhaul?…because it favors the wealthy, including themselves?…we’re hosed


  108. Mars
    110 | May 17, 2012 6:02 pm

    Just remember, any vote not cast, is another vote that union planted poll workers can give to someone to cast for O.


  109. 111 | May 17, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ Mars:

    I think this is the GOP’s last shot. If Romney screws up, another Center-Right Party will emerge. Heck maybe 2 will merge. This is it for them.


  110. Mars
    112 | May 17, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ heysoos:
    How does a tax law that keeps the richest in the highest tax rates and allows over 50% of the country to not pay anything help the rich?


  111. Lily
    113 | May 17, 2012 6:04 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I this is it for both the parties to be honest.


  112. Mars
    114 | May 17, 2012 6:05 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Multiple center-right parties will ensure a permanent liberal majority. It will be just like the Paulbots who refuse to support anyone but Ronulus.


  113. Lily
    115 | May 17, 2012 6:05 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Really it favors the wealthy? Then why in the hell do I pay 35% in taxes??????


  114. Mars
    116 | May 17, 2012 6:06 pm

    @ Lily:
    I thought the dems were going to fracture several years back. Power means too much to them, they always manage to kiss and make up.


  115. RIX
    117 | May 17, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Romney’s spent is life as unrepentant capitalist, and that’s kinda the same thing in their book.

    Absolutely & he is so hateful he was successful.
    Now Community Organizers are way qualified.


  116. Lily
    118 | May 17, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ Mars:

    I’m seeing something different this time. They have pushed this leftist agenda a bridge too far.


  117. 119 | May 17, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ Mars:

    Maybe, if a Party based on Free Market Economics, a Realistic/Jacksonian foreign Policy and National Unity merge it come eventually defeat the Democrats and the remnants of the GOP.


  118. 120 | May 17, 2012 6:08 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I’ll see ya, and raise ya.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKlhDr1WMPY&feature=g-all-u


  119. 121 | May 17, 2012 6:08 pm

    @ Lily:

    I think The Dems blew it. Now the GOP has its final shot. If they blow it, things will get interesting.


  120. 122 | May 17, 2012 6:09 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Notice the media hasn’t said nothing about the Stock Market losing 1,000 points the last week and half?


  121. heysoos
    123 | May 17, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ Mars:

    I have no clue…I used to earn so much money and was taxed on it…after that I had to pay child support, which was not considered taxable income to my ex…talk about unfucking fair…if the state demands it from me, how is that income?…shit like that needs to be cleaned up…the taxes on that income were a small fortune


  122. Mars
    124 | May 17, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ Rodan:
    The same Jackson that kicked the Barbary Pirates ass? Nope the Ronulan type libertarians will never allow it. They do not wish us to ever leave this country again.


  123. RIX
    125 | May 17, 2012 6:11 pm

    @ Guggi:

    @ RIX:

    Emanuel is a typical Jewish leftwinger par excellence but there may be some hope in the Jewish community:

    Axlerod belongs to some goofy anti or at least
    not supprtive mof Israel Jewish group.


  124. RIX
    126 | May 17, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ Rancher:

    They see his high school years fair game! We know nothing about how Obama got in college especially if his last two years were passed in a drug and alcohol haze nor do we know anything about his college career.

    Where are the transcripts & Law Review articles?
    More than that, how does a stoned , bad high school
    school student get an academic scholarship to college?


  125. Mars
    127 | May 17, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ heysoos:
    That’s not on the tax code. That’s on the Child Support code. Something I have brought up many times on here. I was very nearly a victim of the unfair and unbalanced Child Support division. The Child Support bill was so ridiculous that Ford felt it would be declared unconstitutional within the year. Somehow the Court was asleep at the switch, so that particular regulation is still allowed to run unregulated and unmonitored.

    I asked for an investigation into a CSED agent. I was informed they would look into it, one day later they were done and said nothing was wrong. They enforce themselves and there is no outside oversight. They can even ignore the court on most things.

    Problem is, it’s something that most people never experience so they get away with it.

    The tax code does need reworked. It needs to be redesigned. My personal favorite is a national sales tax that has a hard cap that cannot be altered by our wonderful politicians. That way everyone pays. I’m one of the people that doesn’t pay taxes and gets back a decent sized return. I don’t like getting other peoples money.


  126. Lily
    128 | May 17, 2012 6:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I think The Dems blew it. Now the GOP has its final shot. If they blow it, things will get interesting.

    Oh I agree. bho is rogue and has been One Big Ass Mistake for them.


  127. RIX
    129 | May 17, 2012 6:17 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Personally, I can take only so much cynicism; “a pox on both their houses” isn’t a position or a strategy, it’s a tantrum. At some point one has to cast their lots with someone and I’ll take the Republicans

    Right on!


  128. Lily
    130 | May 17, 2012 6:19 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Interesting too. Seems this is going viral and also the Rev. Wright taped interview…bho is having a nasty week and it isn’t over yet..we still have the Nato Summit in Chicago! Oh my! I wonder how his ‘controlled chaos’ is going to turn out?


  129. 131 | May 17, 2012 6:20 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Are you a Ronulan?


  130. Mars
    132 | May 17, 2012 6:20 pm

    The only people that vote Dem this time are either true Marxists, racists, people who have plugged their ears and closed their eyes the last four years.

    And I don’t have a much higher opinion of anyone who sits this out. That’s not taking a stand, that’s cowardice, and a willingness to let the country go to hell while screaming “I told you so”.


  131. 133 | May 17, 2012 6:20 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Interesting too. Seems this is going viral and also the Rev. Wright taped interview…bho is having a nasty week and it isn’t over yet..we still have the Nato Summit in Chicago! Oh my! I wonder how his ‘controlled chaos’ is going to turn out?

    Hopefully with Alex Jones and his Effeminate charges under Arrest!


  132. Mars
    134 | May 17, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ Macker:
    Oh yes please. Why the press keeps trying to stick the Right with that lunatic I really can’t understand.


  133. Lily
    135 | May 17, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ Mars:

    Well said.


  134. heysoos
    136 | May 17, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ Mars:

    I’d like to know if a fine imposed by the court is taxed first…same thing I suppose…it’s just greed, a state sanctioned shakedown


  135. The Osprey
    137 | May 17, 2012 6:23 pm

    Li’l Skittles was on drugs when shot by WHISP Zimmerman.

    …lol, MSM no longer describing Zimmerman as a White HISPanic, he’s a “multi-racial” Hispanic now.

    The MSM’s whole narrative on this one is starting to unravel.


  136. Mars
    138 | May 17, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Court fines aren’t taxed. And yes, they are shakedowns. Authorized at the local level usually.


  137. Lily
    139 | May 17, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Not only that he had bruises on his knuckles to …. like he was giving someone a beat down. Hmmmm.


  138. heysoos
    140 | May 17, 2012 6:25 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Are you a Ronulan?

    not sure where I was born, but I have high cheek bones


  139. 141 | May 17, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ Rodan:

    What’s worse, the latest run up isn’t real either. Part of the Qe whatever is the Fed buying Securities which artificially inflate stock prices. People think they are doing well, until the Fed starts dumping their stocks when it comes time to pay for all of this.


  140. Lily
    142 | May 17, 2012 6:27 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Also *discovery* is a bitch to the narrative the WH, the race baiters, and the media were trying to push across.


  141. Mars
    143 | May 17, 2012 6:28 pm

    One big thing that needs fixed is the massive entrenchment of liberals in the federal system. State, Education, Energy, you name it they are full of liberals.


  142. Lily
    144 | May 17, 2012 6:29 pm

    @ Mars:

    Indeed. But most those liberals have gone full-on leftist imho.


  143. RIX
    145 | May 17, 2012 6:30 pm

    @ Lily:
    This sure looks like a malicious prosecution.
    There was no probable cause to indict Zimmrman
    until the race whores got involved.
    Then the racist Holder threatens a hate crime
    prosecution, right out of left field.


  144. Mars
    146 | May 17, 2012 6:31 pm

    @ Lily:
    That’s why they have to go. They are a poison in our system and it has to be flushed out.


  145. Lily
    147 | May 17, 2012 6:32 pm

    @ RIX:

    Yep. I am suprised Zimmerman is no longer a *white hispanic* too.
    My, my, my how discovery has changed things.


  146. heysoos
    148 | May 17, 2012 6:32 pm

    @ Mars:

    just wait til the states come to the feds for assistance….whoa nellie…someone has to pay for the demise of CA


  147. Lily
    149 | May 17, 2012 6:33 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ Lily:
    That’s why they have to go. They are a poison in our system and it has to be flushed out.

    Indeed and I honestly think we as a nation are at a tipping point because of it. All the marxist and pc crap is coming to a head.


  148. The Osprey
    150 | May 17, 2012 6:34 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    Not only that he had bruises on his knuckles to …. like he was giving someone a beat down. Hmmmm.

    Zimmerman’s fault! He was bashing his face into poor Li’l Skittles’ hands!


  149. 151 | May 17, 2012 6:35 pm

    @ Mars:

    I’m not with the Paulians, but the Wilsonians and their spread Democracy/Nation Building nonsense are just as bad. The current GOP foreign policy is all about nation building and doing the Muslim Brotherhood’s bidding. This needs to end!


  150. RIX
    152 | May 17, 2012 6:35 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Yep. I am suprised Zimmerman is no longer a *white hispanic* too.
    My, my, my how discovery has changed things.

    But racial justice demands that somebody pay.
    Ok. if the case is coming unglued on Zimmerman,
    maybe it’s time to arrest George Bush!


  151. 153 | May 17, 2012 6:36 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Yup, which is why there’s talk of QE3.


  152. Mars
    154 | May 17, 2012 6:36 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Yeah, that mess is going to be so much fun. The newest plan is now to increase tax rates to the point that no business will remain there.


  153. 155 | May 17, 2012 6:37 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    According to Charles Zimmerman was bashing his head into Trayvon Martin’s fists!


  154. 156 | May 17, 2012 6:38 pm

    Mars wrote:

    The same Jackson that kicked the Barbary Pirates ass?

    Here’s a great book on that; To the Shores of Tripoli: The Birth of the U.S. Navy and Marines. It wasn’t as cut and dried as I thought, we were actually battling with several Sultans in the area, paid everyone some tribute at one time or another and even gave one of them a frigate. Finally Jefferson and congress got pissed off enough to turn Commodore Preble and the Marines loose on Tripoli, the others decided not to back up their Muslim brothers.


  155. Mars
    157 | May 17, 2012 6:40 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I believe in Whack a Mole diplomacy. This stick their heads up you knock them down. Then you keep hitting them until they stay down.

    No “understanding their views”, no “compassionate rules of engagement”, no more of that crap.

    Pop up, whack, pop up, whack, lots of pop up, nuke.


  156. citizen_q
    158 | May 17, 2012 6:42 pm

    @ Mars:
    I live in MD. There are fools around here who have proud to be a democrat bumper stickers.

    Don’t forget the G8 this weekend, set to bring the ows circus here.


  157. 159 | May 17, 2012 6:44 pm

    New Thread at 7:00 PM!


  158. RIX
    160 | May 17, 2012 6:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    According to Charles Zimmerman was bashing his head into Trayvon Martin’s fists!

    Charles is a functional idiot.


  159. Mars
    161 | May 17, 2012 6:44 pm

    @ Rancher:
    Yep, Jefferson decided the Jizya shit had to stop. They exacted “shipping taxes” from anyone in the area for a long time. The mistake was thinking we could effectively work with the Muslims to stop the problem. The shit didn’t get dealt with until we showed that we were willing to use whatever force was necessary.

    And don’t get me started on the stupidity of Adams and the Treaty of Tripoli.

    One, we shouldn’t have even recognized the savages as a legitimate group to sign a treaty with. Two, there should never have been a religion clause in a damn treaty.


  160. Mars
    162 | May 17, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    We have the same idiots in Mt. My mind is blown by how many morons there are with Dem signs in their yards in this state after years of dem abuse at every level.


  161. Mars
    163 | May 17, 2012 6:46 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ The Osprey:
    According to Charles Zimmerman was bashing his head into Trayvon Martin’s fists!

    Charles is an functional idiot.

    FIFY


  162. 164 | May 17, 2012 6:47 pm

    @ RIX:

    He’s scared of Missouri Nazis now. Check out DOD!

    :lol:


  163. RIX
    165 | May 17, 2012 6:48 pm

    Here is an interesting conundrum.
    BHO was planning on attending the Sox/Cubs
    game Saturday night. He wants to continue the
    charade that he is a White Sox fan & get some TV
    face time.
    The game is at Wrigley & the Rickets family owns it
    and the Cubs. What does he do?


  164. Mars
    166 | May 17, 2012 6:49 pm

    @ RIX:
    He’ll go anyway, the press will never report that there’s a problem so no one will know. He just has to ensure that he smiles at the right times, and looks serious at the right times.


  165. RIX
    167 | May 17, 2012 6:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    He’s scared of Missouri Nazis now. Check out DOD!

    Just checked it. CJ is impossible to underestimate.


  166. RIX
    168 | May 17, 2012 6:51 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ RIX:
    He’ll go anyway, the press will never report that there’s a problem so no one will know. He just has to ensure that he smiles at the right times, and looks serious at the right times.

    I think so too.


  167. RIX
    169 | May 17, 2012 6:51 pm

    Later Gators


  168. coldwarrior
    170 | May 17, 2012 6:51 pm

    fall not should you for shiny objects.

    “it’s the economy stupid”

    – jedi master james carville, 1992


  169. Mars
    171 | May 17, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Unfortunately for him his mind has degraded considerably since those days.

    Unless he’s Ulstermanns insider and is playing a very interesting game.


  170. Lily
    172 | May 17, 2012 6:58 pm

    @ Mars:

    What a thought. Never even considered that. Interesting.


  171. Mars
    173 | May 17, 2012 7:04 pm

    http://news.kuwaittimes.net/2012/05/03/read-no-evil-senior-censor-defends-work-denies-playing-big-brother/

    Read this article and then consider that Kuwait is as free as an Islamic country can get.

    Then go kick a liberal in the nuts for being an idiot.


  172. coldwarrior
    174 | May 17, 2012 7:20 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Unfortunately for him his mind has degraded considerably since those days.
    Unless he’s Ulstermanns insider and is playing a very interesting game.

    degraded? yeah i need proof on that. i’ll take links or testimony from the students he is teaching in political science at tulane…or testimony from mary.(i would love to sit in on his lectures)

    he is the one dem i actually fear. he hates obama, that means when obama is out, the snakehead is back.

    that scares me

    ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stick to that and we win. fall for shiny objects and we blow it again.


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