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Obama’s bad primary night in Kentucky and Arkansas

by Rodan ( 111 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Elections 2012 at May 23rd, 2012 - 2:00 pm

Imagine if in 2004 Bush lost 40% of the Republican primary vote in several state to a convict, an unknown and uncommitted. The media would not stop talking about it. It would be proof that Bush was in trouble and was doomed in November. Well this has happened to Obama. last month in West Virginia , a convicted felon got 40% of the vote. Last night in Kentucky, uncommitted got 40% of the vote. Even more humiliating in Arkansas  an unknown lawyer named John Wolfe got 41% of the vote. Under normal circumstances this would be considered devastating politically. But since our media worships Obama as a divine Pharaoh, they are downplaying these results.

President Obama lost more than 40 percent of the vote in Tuesday’s Arkansas and Kentucky Democratic primaries, despite little-to-no opposition.

Obama lost 42 percent of the vote to the “uncommitted” option in Kentucky and more than 40 percent to little-known attorney John Wolfe in Arkansas — the latest example of the incumbent president failing to win significant shares of votes in uncompetitive contests.

But it’s not the first time the president has taken less than 60 percent of the vote in a primary this year.

He ceded 41 percent of the vote in West Virginia to an incarcerated man in Texas named Keith Judd, and in Oklahoma, Obama lost several counties and won just 57 percent of the vote.

There’s no spinning these results. They are bad news for the Pharaoh. The media will do all they can to prop up the tottering Pharaonic regime, but the people have had enough with the phony god-king.

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111 Responses to “Obama’s bad primary night in Kentucky and Arkansas”
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  1. Buffalobob
    1 | May 23, 2012 2:08 pm

    Yes but a prg pundit has already labeled these Democratic voters as racist, who don’t want to allow a half black man another term as president.


  2. Eliana
    2 | May 23, 2012 2:08 pm

    “No Preference” got a lot of Democrat Primary votes in North Carolina a couple of weeks ago, too.

    I think it was 20% overall that voted “No Preference,” but it was much higher in some individual counties.


  3. heysoos
    3 | May 23, 2012 2:14 pm

    cracks are starting to appear all over the place…that weakens the entire structure…and what of the money?, what happens when that starts to dry up?….looking good so far, even Colin Powell knows he fucked up


  4. Eliana
    4 | May 23, 2012 2:18 pm

    @ heysoos:

    cracks are starting to appear all over the place…that weakens the entire structure…

    Yeah -- cracks!!

    His primary results against a prisoner and things like “uncommitted” and “no preference” are rather unimpressive, considering he’s an incumbent running against nothing and no one in his own party’s primaries.


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | May 23, 2012 2:23 pm

    :lol: cmu athletics.

    cmu engineering on the other hand is no laughing matter


  6. 6 | May 23, 2012 2:27 pm

    @ Buffalobob:

    That’s got to be a hard stretch to make. These aren’t the knuckle dragging GOP voters who did this, these are the enlightened progressive voters from the party that put him into the spotlight in the first place. Not to mention that without the entirety of the Democrat votes, he never would have been elected in the first place. Each and every one of these 40% had to have voted for the Zero in 2008. Good luck with the racist Democrat from the red neck south meme.


  7. 7 | May 23, 2012 2:29 pm

    @ Eliana:

    It was 42%, and that ain’t good. No way to spin this, that’s why it isn’t being reported really at all.


  8. Eliana
    8 | May 23, 2012 2:32 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    It was 42%, and that ain’t good. No way to spin this, that’s why it isn’t being reported really at all.

    Oh yeah!! I forgot that’s where it ended up.

    42% of the Dems in NC voted “No Preference” (and it was on the ballot -- it wasn’t just Obama alone so that non-votes counted as “No Preference”).

    The NC Ballot said Obama OR “No Preference” -- and “No Preference” got 42% of the Dem Primary vote.

    This is huge.


  9. 9 | May 23, 2012 2:35 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    @ Eliana:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ heysoos:
    @ Buffalobob:

    Hey the picture is what Obama fans will feel after November 6th.


  10. 10 | May 23, 2012 2:37 pm

    @ Eliana:

    I thought we were talking about Kentucky. North Carolina too? Wow!


  11. 11 | May 23, 2012 2:38 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Buffalobob:

    That’s got to be a hard stretch to make. These aren’t the knuckle dragging GOP voters who did this, these are the enlightened progressive voters from the party that put him into the spotlight in the first place. Not to mention that without the entirety of the Democrat votes, he never would have been elected in the first place. Each and every one of these 40% had to have voted for the Zero in 2008. Good luck with the racist Democrat from the red neck south meme.

    Actually, Obama lost Kentucky by 16 points in ’08 and is a fairly dependable Republican State in National elections, though the Statehouse is occupied by Democrats.

    We don’t call is racism as much as “Bluegrass Enlightenment”. :D


  12. heysoos
    12 | May 23, 2012 2:38 pm

    @ Rodan:
    one and done is gonna blow some minds…a bigger story than his election, in my opinion


  13. Eliana
    13 | May 23, 2012 2:38 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    I’ll have to check again on NC if you were talking about Kentucky.

    I know it was kind of shocking in NC.


  14. citizen_q
    14 | May 23, 2012 2:40 pm

    All opposition to chairman O is raaaaccist!

    What other explanation can there be? Obama is working sooo hard for the greater good. In between well earned rounds of golf, vacations, and deli runs, of course. Just surrender your freedom, liberty, wallet, free will and trust the one! All will be well. All will be well.

    /


  15. 15 | May 23, 2012 2:42 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    While that is true, as it is of West Virginia and even Arkansas, we are not talking of a general election here. The only people voting in this election come exclusively from one side of the aisle and not the other. I am not suggesting that the Zero won those states, but that he won by huge margin those people voting in this primary.

    Of the people nationally who self identified as Democrats in 2008, he had to have polled at least 93%. Now suddenly they are racists, when they weren’t before? as I said, good luck with that.


  16. Eliana
    16 | May 23, 2012 2:43 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Bambi has finally taken the hint about the over-the-top Michelle vacations from now until the next election, though.

    She’d still be doing one after another after another after another if not for some people reminding Bambi that it’s like fiddling while Rome burns or telling the American taxpayers to eat cake.


  17. Lily
    17 | May 23, 2012 2:44 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Eliana:

    I thought we were talking about Kentucky. North Carolina too? Wow!

    Don’t forget Louisiana only 11% of democrats showed up to vote for bho in the primarys. Only 11%!


  18. 18 | May 23, 2012 2:45 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    They will twist it somehow!


  19. rain of lead
    19 | May 23, 2012 2:52 pm

    but hey, at least Obambi is keeping one promise

    As Promised, Electricity Rates Skyrocket Under the Obama Plan

    Last week the U.S. Energy Information Administration reported a shocking drop in power sector coal consumption in the first quarter of 2012. Coal-fired power plants are now generating just 36 percent of U.S. electricity, versus 44.6 percent just one year ago.

    Last week PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states (Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and the District of Columbia) held its 2015 capacity auction. These are the first real, market prices that take Obama’s most recent anti-coal regulations into account, and they prove that he is keeping his 2008 campaign promise to make electricity prices “necessarily skyrocket.”

    The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.

    Why the massive price increases? Andy Ott from PJM stated the obvious: “Capacity prices were higher than last year’s because of retirements of existing coal-fired generation resulting largely from environmental regulations which go into effect in 2015.” Northern Ohio is suffering from more forced coal-plant retirements than the rest of the region, hence the even higher price.

    These are not computer models or projections or estimates. These are the actual prices that electric distributors have agreed to pay for new capacity. The costs will be passed on to consumers at the retail level.

    we are so fucked!


  20. Da_Beerfreak
    20 | May 23, 2012 2:54 pm

    If Baby Doc Baraq can’t win a second term he’ll just steal it. He know the Gutless Old Party won’t do a damn thing to stop him. :evil:


  21. rain of lead
    21 | May 23, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Romney needs to be pounding THIS 24/7


  22. citizen_q
    22 | May 23, 2012 2:58 pm

    @ Eliana:
    I have been wondering why it has been sooo long since she last took another well deserved break from her toil at the White House.


  23. Lily
    23 | May 23, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ Rodan:

    It’s the racist tea-party’s fault.

    Maxine Waters: “Mean Spirited” Tea Party Coming After Me Because I’m “Trying To Help People of Color”…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/23/maxine-waters-mean-spirited-tea-party-coming-after-me-because-im-trying-to-help-people-of-color/


  24. buzzsawmonkey
    24 | May 23, 2012 3:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Don’t forget Louisiana only 11% of democrats showed up to vote for bho in the primarys. Only 11%!

    They remember his stellar performance during the BP oil spill.


  25. Lily
    25 | May 23, 2012 3:03 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    From 16 dollars a megawatt to 136 dollars a megawatt!!! Good night in heaven and yes obama said this. Think about it. We will be using candles and washing clothes in a scrub bucket.

    Oh and lets not forget him making sure the Canadian pipe-line doesn’t come this way. Even though Congress over rode him on this…


  26. Lily
    26 | May 23, 2012 3:04 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    There is no love for bho here in Louisiana. Only the fringe element will vote for him here.


  27. citizen_q
    27 | May 23, 2012 3:08 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    Romney needs to be pounding THIS 24/7

    Romney has a target rich environment with which he can highlight obama’s war on our country. I won’t call it failure, because he is purposefully setting out to destroy our country. Failure implies unintended results. He wants energy prices to skyrocket, from his own lips. He wants nationalized healthcare, again from his own lips.

    If anything he has been too successful and the effects of his plans are being felt just a little too early. The frogs may jump out of the pot before being boiled because he raised the heat too quickly.


  28. 28 | May 23, 2012 3:11 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    While that is true, as it is of West Virginia and even Arkansas, we are not talking of a general election here. The only people voting in this election come exclusively from one side of the aisle and not the other. I am not suggesting that the Zero won those states, but that he won by huge margin those people voting in this primary.

    Of the people nationally who self identified as Democrats in 2008, he had to have polled at least 93%. Now suddenly they are racists, when they weren’t before? as I said, good luck with that.

    All true. When an incumbent President can only garner 58% of the Democrat vote in a primary where he’s running unopposed, that’s bad mojo any way you look at it.

    In 2008, he had luck, the media and the mystique. In 2012, his luck’s run out, the media won’t be nearly as reliable and the mystique is looking a lot like those phony Greek columns.


  29. Lily
    29 | May 23, 2012 3:16 pm

    @ citizen_q:


  30. 30 | May 23, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ Lily:

    People of Color gets on under my skin. Everyone except Albinos have color. Charles Johnson is an Albino so he doesn’t count.


  31. Lily
    31 | May 23, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ Rodan:

    It does me too. This has really gone too far. Certain people are better than other people.
    What is going on in our country is nothing but a divide a conquer mentality and it is making me sick.


  32. 32 | May 23, 2012 3:25 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    People of Color gets on under my skin. Everyone except Albinos have color. Charles Johnson is an Albino so he doesn’t count.

    Black people have been changing what they prefer to be called since the 60s (or before). I wish they’d just pick something and stick with it.


  33. Eliana
    33 | May 23, 2012 3:27 pm

    Nikki Sixx of Mötley Crüe isn’t feeling good about President Obama anymore.

    The heavy metal band’s bassist was an Obama supporter but now says POTUS has been a disappointment. Knocking Obama for keeping up with celebrities, Sixx tweeted on Saturday, “Our president is commenting on Kanye, having Lindsey at his party and failing our economy.I used to believe in him but it’s time for change!”

    Sixx was referring to remarks that Obama has made about rapper Kanye West and the presence of actress Lindsay Lohan at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner last month.

    Another crack in the structure? :-)

    Motley Crue bassist is over Obama


  34. citizen_q
    34 | May 23, 2012 3:30 pm

    @ Lily:
    If I wanted America to fail, I would vote demoncrap.

    If I wanted America to fail I would let such luminaries as nancy had work done pelosi, lunch-box joe, or schmuck schumer inform we how I should live my life.


  35. 35 | May 23, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Rock ‘n Roll isn’t liberal and it takes some perspective to figure that out.


  36. buzzsawmonkey
    36 | May 23, 2012 3:38 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Black people have been changing what they prefer to be called since the 60s (or before). I wish they’d just pick something and stick with it.

    If you call them by the term they use among themselves, they’ll kill you.


  37. heysoos
    37 | May 23, 2012 3:41 pm

    Hyperion can provide one hell of a lot of power if the feds wouls get out of the way…nuclear power is the only viable alternative to gas and oil at this point…
    http://www.thetechherald.com/articles/Hyperion-hopes-mini-nuclear-reactors-will-power-the-world/3153/


  38. 38 | May 23, 2012 3:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:
    @ Eliana:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ heysoos:
    @ Buffalobob:

    Hey the picture is what Obama fans will feel after November 6th.

    And here I thought you posted The Unknown Comic! 8)


  39. 39 | May 23, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    The joke is in other countries Most American Blacks would be considered Mix Raced.


  40. 40 | May 23, 2012 3:45 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Black people have been changing what they prefer to be called since the 60s (or before). I wish they’d just pick something and stick with it.

    If you call them by the term they use among themselves, they’ll kill you.

    When in Jamaica, I’ve oft heard my countrymen refer to native Jamaicans, who are neither African or American as “African American”.


  41. 41 | May 23, 2012 3:47 pm

    @ Lily:

    I wrote to Lobo on the last thread, That I think the Bin Laden Movie will have Will SMith staring as Obama personally leading the raid and killing Osama with his bare hands.


  42. heysoos
    42 | May 23, 2012 3:47 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    rock and roll was a newborn in the Eisenhower years…it was, from the beginning, the music of anti-establishment…it became of age in the Kennedy years, and matured through that decade….R/R is apolitical, unless one tries to connect a bunch of disconnected dots


  43. 43 | May 23, 2012 3:48 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I don’t think the Jamaicans appreciate that too much.


  44. 44 | May 23, 2012 3:49 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    If you call them by the term they use among themselves, they’ll kill you.

    Non-Crackas? 8)


  45. The Osprey
    45 | May 23, 2012 3:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    People of Color gets on under my skin. Everyone except Albinos have color. Charles Johnson is an Albino so he doesn’t count.

    Chuck is a “Person of Pallor”


  46. heysoos
    46 | May 23, 2012 3:51 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    MacDuff wrote:
    Black people have been changing what they prefer to be called since the 60s (or before). I wish they’d just pick something and stick with it.
    If you call them by the term they use among themselves, they’ll kill you.

    When in Jamaica, I’ve oft heard my countrymen refer to native Jamaicans, who are neither African or American as “African American”.

    quite the insult…most Jamaicans, by far, see themselves as nothing more than Jamaican…they have no affinity, per se, for Afro-Americans


  47. 47 | May 23, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ Macker:

    That takes me back a ways.


  48. 48 | May 23, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ heysoos:

    quite the insult…most Jamaicans, by far, see themselves as nothing more than Jamaican…they have no affinity, per se, for Afro-Americans

    I have Jamaican friends and agree with that statement 100%. They just view themselves as Jamaicans. There are even White Jamaicans and East Indian Jamaicans. One day Americans will think that way.


  49. citizen_q
    49 | May 23, 2012 3:53 pm

    Ratcheting up his controversial proposal for revitalizing America’s cities, Mayor Bloomberg yesterday suggested that the federal government “deliberately force” large municipalities to take in immigrants as the only hope for salvaging their battered economies.

    Another gem from the article:

    The mayor also criticized President Obama for deporting more immigrants “than the last four or five presidents put together.”

    “I would argue the federal government should go one step further. They should deliberately force some places that don’t want immigrants to take them, because that’s the only solution for these big, hollowed-out cities where industry has left and is never going to come back unless you get some people to move there.”

    Could he be talking about Detroit?

    Bloomberg aught to be fitted with a straight-jacket and heavily medicated. He is a danger to others.


  50. 50 | May 23, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    He’s a friend of Terrorists and 9/11 truthers.


  51. 51 | May 23, 2012 3:54 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    By Immigrants, he means Muslims. He’s not talking about Asians, Hispanics or Indians.


  52. heysoos
    52 | May 23, 2012 3:58 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    quite the insult…most Jamaicans, by far, see themselves as nothing more than Jamaican…they have no affinity, per se, for Afro-Americans
    I have Jamaican friends and agree with that statement 100%. They just view themselves as Jamaicans. There are even White Jamaicans and East Indian Jamaicans. One day Americans will think that way.

    I have met a few time and partied with Butch Steward, of Sandals notariety…he’s pure white, the richest man in the Caribbean, and most blacks regard him as a savior of sorts..he has spent decades developing resorts and this provides jobs for the locals…he cannot pay them the equivalent of US wages but he takes good care of his people…he is 100% Jamaican and 100% white….Jamaica is a rainbow of color and race…black/Chinese Jamaicans are the most beautiful women in the world


  53. Lily
    53 | May 23, 2012 4:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I wrote to Lobo on the last thread, That I think the Bin Laden Movie will have Will SMith staring as Obama personally leading the raid and killing Osama with his bare hands.

    LOL!!


  54. buzzsawmonkey
    54 | May 23, 2012 4:03 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I have Jamaican friends and agree with that statement 100%. They just view themselves as Jamaicans. There are even White Jamaicans and East Indian Jamaicans. One day Americans will think that way.

    Hey, Americans think they’re all Jamaicans too.


  55. 55 | May 23, 2012 4:05 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Most of the Caribbean and Latin America is that. I wish we had that mindset here. One day.


  56. 56 | May 23, 2012 4:06 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Hey, Americans think they’re all Jamaicans too.

    Good pint! Reggae Music is popular.


  57. 57 | May 23, 2012 4:07 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    rock and roll was a newborn in the Eisenhower years…it was, from the beginning, the music of anti-establishment…it became of age in the Kennedy years, and matured through that decade….R/R is apolitical, unless one tries to connect a bunch of disconnected dots

    Indeed, it is apolitical. My point was that its nature is more in tune with conservatism (actually, libertarianism) than statist liberalism. Mine was a philosophical statement than a political one.


  58. 58 | May 23, 2012 4:10 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    American society by nature tends to be more Libertarian.


  59. 59 | May 23, 2012 4:11 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    quite the insult…most Jamaicans, by far, see themselves as nothing more than Jamaican…they have no affinity, per se, for Afro-Americans

    And they don’t have a fixation on race, which is refreshing.


  60. heysoos
    60 | May 23, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I have visited Jamaica since the early 70′s…I own property above Cave, near Whitehouse on the south coast…I have met a lot a people through the years, expats, natives, itinerant types…seen Negril go from rags to riches, traveled all over and watched the devolpement as the years go by…I have paid for labor and protection, smuggled weed, watched kids grow up, considered Jamaicans family…but guess what…no amt of any of that stuff will ever make you Jamaican…the old Rastas laugh at the wayward kids that go down there….you can know and love somebody for twenty years and they will still steal your cement, or boombox or whatever you own…no matter what you do, or who you are, you will never be a Jamaican…in spirit is the best you’ll ever do


  61. 61 | May 23, 2012 4:13 pm

    @ heysoos:

    You have to be born there.


  62. 62 | May 23, 2012 4:13 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    American society by nature tends to be more Libertarian.

    True.


  63. 63 | May 23, 2012 4:18 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    By nature Americans abhor Statists. But the Statists of the left and the Statists of the “Right” have been able to take advantage of people’s fears and push Big Government. If Americans truly realize how much power the government has compared to 100 years ago, their jaw would drop.

    The sad part is many on the Left and the Right love the Nanny state. Too often What Progressives and Conservatives disagree about is what that Nanny State will do.


  64. buzzsawmonkey
    64 | May 23, 2012 4:18 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    rock and roll was a newborn in the Eisenhower years…it was, from the beginning, the music of anti-establishment…it became of age in the Kennedy years, and matured through that decade….R/R is apolitical, unless one tries to connect a bunch of disconnected dots

    Actually, “rock and roll” began as an outgrowth of scaled-down Western Swing bands and the sort of late combo swing exemplified by Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five, or some of Slim Gaillard’s late-Forties/early-Fifties stuff.

    Both types of music exhibit the same simplified playing and the same reliance on saxophones and electric guitars that you find in early rock’n'roll.

    WWII had killed off the big swing bands; shortage of personnel during the war years and the expense of keeping so many people on the payroll, coupled with smaller venues, made the big bands uneconomical. Small combos became the norm. On top of that, jazz started getting weird and unpleasant; the music that had ruled as happy dance music for twenty years suddenly went be-bop. Be-bop may be interesting to listen to, but it’s not happy and it’s not danceable. Rock ‘n’ roll, which grew out of the black and white roots I mentioned above, took up the slack.

    “Anti-establishment music?” No, not really. Just the new kids’ music that replaced a jazz grown up and gone dreary—even though rock often relied on old jazz or blues standards, even past the early years.


  65. buzzsawmonkey
    65 | May 23, 2012 4:19 pm

    “My wife’s gone to the West Indies.”

    “Jamaica?”

    “No, she went of her own accord.”


  66. 66 | May 23, 2012 4:22 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    “My wife’s gone to the West Indies.”
    “Jamaica?”
    “No, she went of her own accord.”

    :lol:

    Good one!


  67. 67 | May 23, 2012 4:24 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    SO where does Charles Johnson’s Jazz Fusion stuff fit in? Was that an attempt to make Jazz more upbeat?


  68. taxfreekiller
    68 | May 23, 2012 4:24 pm

    Slang for “crazy old loon nut bag” =’s “Tim Wirth”


  69. taxfreekiller
    69 | May 23, 2012 4:29 pm

    Of some note:

    Tim Wirth, who with Al Gore got James Hanson the top climate job at NASA.

    Well he worked with Republicans John Heinz of Pa. and Alan Simpson R-Wy on climate issues.

    Two Party Evil Money Cult.@ taxfreekiller:


  70. 70 | May 23, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Have you been following the Brent Kimberlin stuff? It seems Charles was pals with a terrorist.


  71. heysoos
    71 | May 23, 2012 4:35 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I think it was the adults at the time considered R/R anti-establishment…new, promiscuous music that made way for a new lingo, dress styles, and generally evil bahavior


  72. taxfreekiller
    72 | May 23, 2012 4:36 pm

    Charles Johnson has no pals only people he uses.@ Rodan:


  73. 73 | May 23, 2012 4:38 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Yup and he used the wrong people. There’s an Omerta at LGF about this.


  74. m
    74 | May 23, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Ain’t that the truth. I love that he didn’t like us, even back then. My favorite Breitbart moment during the radio interview with Rodan was when he said Charles just didn’t “get” conservatives, he couldn’t figure out why they were so nice and dressed so well.

    *snicker*


  75. 75 | May 23, 2012 4:41 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I think it was the adults at the time considered R/R anti-establishment…new, promiscuous music that made way for a new lingo, dress styles, and generally evil bahavior

    And in the 60s, the damned adults started listening to the children….and they’re still listening.


  76. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | May 23, 2012 4:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    SO where does Charles Johnson’s Jazz Fusion stuff fit in? Was that an attempt to make Jazz more upbeat?

    “Fusion Jazz” = balloon-squeeze music. You know that awful screeching sound that you get when you squeeze/rub a half-inflated balloon? That’s what “fusion jazz” always sounds like to me.

    The beauty of early jazz was the incredible discipline and control that the musicians had. Listen to one of Jelly Roll Morton’s Red Hot Peppers records from about 1927; it sounds almost like a car-crash, but then you realize that everything is tightly controlled, each musician playing off of and weaving in and out among the others. When you hear five or six really great bands from the peak period of jazz playing the same song in five or six completely different ways, you get an idea of just what these guys were capable of. Then you get a Spike Jones record, which sends them up brilliantly, and which also is an incredibly tight performance that is scripted to sound like it’s just a bunch of guys clowning around.

    “Fusion jazz” is none of that; it’s self-indulgent, interminable drivel, in which drooling stoners burble repetitively over and over again with no apparent purpose. It’s done by people who really are stupid enough to believe that those casual-sounding performances by the earlier artists were done casually.

    The tragic thing is that “fusion jazz” players have been around so long that most of today’s music audience thinks that’s what jazz actually is. They don’t know what the real thing sounds like, and have been so conditioned by the ugliness of “fusion” to run in the other direction when they hear the word “jazz” that they never get a chance to find out.


  77. buzzsawmonkey
    77 | May 23, 2012 4:44 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I think it was the adults at the time considered R/R anti-establishment…new, promiscuous music that made way for a new lingo, dress styles, and generally evil bahavior

    If you don’t think that jazz—and before it, ragtime, and after it, swing/jitterbug—were all damned in their day for new lingo, dress styles, promiscuity, and generally evil behavior, you need to go back and do some listenin’.


  78. Eliana
    78 | May 23, 2012 4:45 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    So interesting, buzzsawmonkey.

    Thanks for the explanation.


  79. m
    79 | May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

    {{{Eliana}}}! We miss you lady!


  80. 80 | May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    An art teacher of mine used to say that “Avant Garde is the last refuge for the untalented”. That was pretty blasphemous in the late 60s, but I think he had it figured out.


  81. 81 | May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    “Fusion jazz” is none of that; it’s self-indulgent, interminable drivel, in which drooling stoners burble repetitively over and over again with no apparent purpose. It’s done by people who really are stupid enough to believe that those casual-sounding performances by the earlier artists were done casually.

    Don’t forget Orange Overall!


  82. heysoos
    82 | May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    it’s just a term, where the wasn’t one before…do you consider the Crusaders interminable drivel?…they have been
    labeled crossover/fusion jazz since their inception…it’s just a descriptor


  83. 83 | May 23, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    That’s true. Then those Avant Garde artists blame the fans for not appreciating cutting edge. They don’t realize, they suck!


  84. 84 | May 23, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ m:

    I think he was a Marxist the whole time and just rode the 9/11 Bandwagon and then his head got gassed with Rathergate.


  85. heysoos
    85 | May 23, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I think you are trying to expand on the subject…of course I never said that…all music is evolution, even the earliest country blues…certainly in it’s earliest days R/R was considered by many as more devils/race music…an idea that had been around forever…not sure what your point is


  86. buzzsawmonkey
    86 | May 23, 2012 4:51 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    do you consider the Crusaders interminable drivel?…they have been
    labeled crossover/fusion jazz since their inception…

    I don’t know them. I’m what they call a “moldy fig,” and proud of it; I like the stuff from the mid-Twenties, when the early jazz ensembles started to give way to the solo artistry around the same time electric recording came in, through the swing era and into the late Forties. There’s other good stuff on both sides of that twenty-thirty year span, but for my money that was the greatest period of songwriting and overall musicianship in the history of the US.


  87. Eliana
    87 | May 23, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ m:

    {{{m}}}

    Hi!!

    I’m glad to be back! I’ve been crazy busy in Israel since I got here, but things are settling down a bit for me now.


  88. buzzsawmonkey
    88 | May 23, 2012 4:52 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    An art teacher of mine used to say that “Avant Garde is the last refuge for the untalented”. That was pretty blasphemous in the late 60s, but I think he had it figured out.

    One of the ironies of modern “art” is that it demands government support. A so-called avant garde that must rely upon government funds is, by definition, not avant garde.


  89. 89 | May 23, 2012 4:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I just laugh at the whole “Hipster” movement. I was in South Beach a few days back and just laughed at the fake Hipster.


  90. Eliana
    90 | May 23, 2012 4:55 pm

    @ Rodan:

    What is the “Hipster” movement?


  91. Lily
    91 | May 23, 2012 4:57 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ m:

    I think he was a Marxist the whole time and just rode the 9/11 Bandwagon and then his head got gassed with Rathergate.

    I think he did too. It is amazing his transformation. I also think he thought bho was the big new deal and was going to try and ride his coat-tails to popularity. *snap* Big mistake. I could never imagine me changing long held views just because of a politican. Cj was hating on bho right up to the election. And guess what bho is just as horrible as everyone thought he would be.


  92. Lily
    92 | May 23, 2012 4:59 pm

    @ Eliana:

    That’s great Eliana!!! :)


  93. heysoos
    93 | May 23, 2012 4:59 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Joe Sample, Wilton Fender, and Stix Hooper, all world class players, started this commercial crossover that most people just call fusion…it’s a real thing…and of course they probably all studied those earlier players you mention…music is growth, and there are labels for everything…Ive seen the Crusaders a few times, they are extremely tight and professional…monster musicians and if the public calls them a fusion band, it’s okay with me….in no way does it add or subtract from their performance


  94. heysoos
    94 | May 23, 2012 5:02 pm

    the Crusaders….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV28lBjo4TU


  95. darkwords
    95 | May 23, 2012 5:03 pm

    @ 49 citizen_q: Bloomberg is a dumbass. His head has always been tranzinational when it comes to immigrants. All the workers of the world should be interchangeable units to him. He’s not willing to give a dime of his money up to provide a competitive salary to workers in his business.


  96. darkwords
    96 | May 23, 2012 5:05 pm

    Obama’s
    1. War on Women
    2 War on Mexico
    3. War on Arizona
    4. War on Mexico
    5. War on Coal
    6. War on Oil
    7. War on the 2nd amendment


  97. darkwords
    97 | May 23, 2012 5:06 pm

    Everytime Romney’s religion is questioned by the MSM a superpac should highlight a Rev. Wright ad. connect the innuendo to Islam


  98. Lily
    98 | May 23, 2012 5:06 pm

    WoW it’s treasonous now…it must be treasonous when I have to show my I.D. to cash a check, or get a drivers license or rent a hotel room or ……the list is long.

    Former Dem Gov. Jennifer Granholm: Republicans’ Voter ID Drive Is “Treasonous”…

    “treasonous” acts.
    Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm said on her Current TV show Tuesday evening that voter suppression efforts across the country could be considered as
    Granholm took a swipe at the Republican Party, feeling their push for tougher voter eligibility laws and limiting early voting is an obvious attack on the Democratic party’s key base.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/23/former-dem-gov-jennifer-granholm-republicans-voter-id-drive-is-treasonous/


  99. darkwords
    99 | May 23, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ Lily: Just goes to show governors can be idiots and unable to think without their handlers around.


  100. Lily
    100 | May 23, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ darkwords:

    War on Freedom of Religion
    War on Freedom of Speech


  101. heysoos
    101 | May 23, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ Lily:
    I’m from MI…Granholm is an idiot…not fit for a governorship or any other office….she’s a Canadian hack that came down here to make money…highly unliked in MI


  102. Lily
    102 | May 23, 2012 5:10 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Explains her being Current TV.


  103. heysoos
    103 | May 23, 2012 5:12 pm

    @ Lily:
    don’t know a thing about that…but she did catch the eye of the BO admin earlier…there was rumor of a cabinet job last I heard…if you want to track a Marxist, she’s one to follow


  104. buzzsawmonkey
    104 | May 23, 2012 5:16 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    the Crusaders….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV28lBjo4TU

    They’re clearly highly skilled, and well integrated with each other. That’s what makes it so sad; I’m sorry, but that track is just boring. It doesn’t go anywhere, just babbles along at the same tempo like a mountain stream with cymbals. You can’t dance to it; you can’t whistle it; you can’t sing it. You can’t even dumb it down to make half-decent elevator music.


  105. heysoos
    105 | May 23, 2012 5:17 pm

    a couple of year ago…BO came to Kalamazoo and did a high school graduation speech…my niece was there as a senior student…supposedly there was some ‘contest’ to win his attention and her essay won the prize…I suspect Granholm to be behind that whole gig


  106. 106 | May 23, 2012 5:19 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    One of the ironies of modern “art” is that it demands government support. A so-called avant garde that must rely upon government funds is, by definition, not avant garde.

    Yep. Art must have a certain degree of acceptance to make it viable. If the government’s funding it, acceptance isn’t necessary and crap is the result -- crucifixes is jars of urine and the like. Art and “free expression” are two different things; art is a discipline, “free expression” is inherently undisciplined.


  107. 107 | May 23, 2012 5:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    a couple of year ago…BO came to Kalamazoo and did a high school graduation speech…my niece was there as a senior student…supposedly there was some ‘contest’ to win his attention and her essay won the prize…I suspect Granholm to be behind that whole gig

    Good for your niece, but gawd that sentence sounds creepy as hell.


  108. heysoos
    108 | May 23, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I just picked it off the top…and I appreciate the feedback…I also appreciate (hugely) that you are a fan of an an almost lost gender and that you understand and promote the stuff that is your expertise…I’m a monster Delta blues fan…it’s incumbent almost that we promote that stuff when we can…the history of American music between the turn of the century until television is a remarkable story


  109. heysoos
    109 | May 23, 2012 5:24 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    yeah…imagine what creepy drool it takes for BO to visit you


  110. heysoos
    110 | May 23, 2012 5:25 pm

    my niece is mixed race as well….makes you wonder


  111. 111 | May 23, 2012 6:56 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Hipsters are people who follow any trend. They think they are better than everyone because they are enlightened.


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