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Cracks In The Dam

by Flyovercountry ( 108 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Politics at May 31st, 2012 - 9:00 am

The conventional wisdom told us on that first Wednesday in November of 2008 that the Republican Party was dying, if not already dead.  That great paragon of intellectual honesty, Al Sharpton, now relishing his role as the go to guy for the NBC family of networks, told us all proudly that America was now officially a Socialist nation.  Paul Krugman, the very same economist who presented the theory that we could pull out of our current economic woes by preparing for an invasion by space aliens, (this was reported as serious news by the New York Times,) found himself the spokes economist for the now in charge political left.

What I knew then, along with a handful of others, was that by November of 2010, the obviously idiotic and insane policies of the left would lead to an electoral backlash of historic proportions.  I knew and predicted, along with a very few in number of others, that the GOP would become the majority party in the House in January of 2011, and that the Senate would take until January of 2013.  I also predicted that in November of 2012, Barack Obama would lose in a landslide of Carter/Mondale/McGovern proportion.  That last prediction has had people loudly calling me fool well up until times as recent as a month ago.  Barack Obama is inevitable, and  if we can defeat him at all I was told, it will be a razor sharp Pyrrhic victory at best.

Suddenly, I find myself in an unfamiliar position.  I find that the optimism with which I faced the midterms of 2010, which was proven correct, and the coming November elections, is suddenly not a minority opinion.  Just like the cartoons that show water holes slowly at first starting to sprout in a damn, and then accelerates rapidly into a situation that sees every square inch of dry ground protected by the damn suddenly flooded, so too are the signs leading up to this years leadership decision to be made by the American People.

So why are there suddenly chinks in the conventional wisdom armor?  What has happened that more and more people are beginning to catch up to what a few of us have known all along?  First, let me say that I am not a great prognosticator, nor even a dime store psychic.  In fact, I based my predictions on past events, namely Jimmy Carter’s Presidency and the election of 1980.  Every thing uttered by President Obama during his campaign, which began in 2006, matched syllable for syllable the exact things uttered by James Earl Carter during his run for our nation’s chief executive position.  His policies and actions have not only been eerily similar, but some have gone as far to dub the Obama Administration as Carter’s second term.  Small wonder that the results have been exactly the same this time around as they were the first.  Knowing what the results would be, should we see a return to the Carter policies, predicting that Americans would react in the exact same fashion as they did in 1980 did not take the amazing Kreskin.

Now, let’s talk about those chinks.   We have heard rumblings since the summer of 2010 about how privately, members of the Democrat Party Apparatus were frightened at the prospects of their party under the leadership of Obama’s team.  Publicly, that fear never really showed.  Even the massive thumping that they took during the 2010 midterms were met with the usually skillful political spin and explanations of how the American People just didn’t understand the brilliance of their messaging.  The conventional wisdom was somehow that they wanted our leaders to start compromising with one another and that the election was not in fact a restraining order being executed by an electorate angered by the Marxist overreach of politicians gone wild.  Then some very subtle signals began to be noticed.  Hillary Clinton announced that she intends to skip the National Convention this year.  Senator Joe Manchin has refused to endorse the President from his own party. Then a whole host of Democrats from Blue Dog country, (that area of the country where Democrats must pretend to be conservatives in order to get elected, such as Nebraska, Missouri, North Dakota, etc.,) have more recently made public refusals to endorse the President elected from their own party.

Then the chinks started coming faster.  Suddenly, we started to experience some changing trends in the daily bombardment of pollsters.  Those of us who pay attention to the inner workings of the cross tabs have noticed that either the samples are skewed to the point of fantasy in order to keep the projected race somewhat close, or Romney is gaining a widening lead.  The polls that show a race as being a toss up for instance need a national D + 11 sample to gain those results.  Several of the news stories began to get reported with a slightly less lustrous Obama glow attached.  (Nothing even remotely objective mind you, while Chris Matthews stated once or twice that he was beginning to lose that blind devotion to the Obamasiah, his tingly feeling did return to his leg soon enough.)  Some long time Democrat mouth pieces began to openly question the seemingly scattered direction in policy emanating from the White House.

Then, over the last 4 weeks, Barack Obama experienced a phenomenon felt by Lyndon Johnson in 1968, then by James E. Carter in 1980, and finally by George H.W. Bush in 1992.  He stood as an incumbent President that faced a serious challenge during at least part of the primary process when facing his second term.  Johnson decided to drop out of the race entirely in 1968 after Robert Kennedy finished a distant second to him in New Hampshire.  (The split there was about 60/40 in Johnson’s favor, which he viewed as an indication that the American People had had enough of the Great Society.)  Carter defeated the Ted Kennedy challenge with an even wider margin, taking about 75% of his party’s nominating vote in the primaries where they faced off.  Bush beat a similarly weak challenge by Pat Buchanan, about 75% to 25% in those states where Buchanan ran. Barack H. Obama’s situation is slightly different.  In North Carolina, he polled 60% of the vote against an unknown candidate.  In West Virginia, he ran against a convicted felon who actually resides in a Federal Pen., located in Arizona.  In Kentucky, 42% of the Democrat electorate actually voted for none of the above, leaving the incumbent from their own party with 58% of the total.

As if the news were not bad enough for Team Obama, read the stories here, (hat tip huckfunn,) and, here, (hat tip Mars.)  The reasons for the mid level apparatchik defections are not important to me at all, what is important is that it shows a pattern of rats jumping off of a sinking ship.  One has stated her reasons as being upset about the Gay Marriage kerfuffle, and the other sees the Keynesian Marxist policies of our current President as being detrimental to anyone committed to the long term economic growth of our nation. What it boils down to however is two more people who actively knocked on doors and canvassed for Obama in 2008 will not be doing so in 2012, and these long time party apparatchiks have defected very publicly.  So to both of them, welcome to the light, I hope you enjoy it here being on the right side of things.

Very soon now, we will begin to see the water crashing through the place where the damn used to stand.  One more chink has fallen from the wall that used to be holding back the tide.  It would seem that the Democrats who run the Senate are not all that interested in advancing the President’s agenda. For decades the leaders from both parties in the Senate have used the language of we’ll get to it in our own time to signal Presidents that they did not have the votes necessary to achieve whatever the agenda item is that they were being asked about. This is something different however. This is an indication of flat out mutiny against the President by the Democrat members, at least some of them, of the Senate.

The Good Ship Lollipop is sinking, and the rats are jumping off. McGovern, Carter, Mondale will all be relieved that there will be a candidate who removes their names as synonyms for landslide victim.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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  1. 1 | May 31, 2012 9:22 am

    Hmmm…what’s with the word “chink”? 8)


  2. livefreeor die
    2 | May 31, 2012 9:30 am

    Wait until 0 either actually debates Romney or refuses to-whichever scenario plays out, it’s going to be good times!


  3. 3 | May 31, 2012 9:34 am

    @ livefreeor die:

    I think it’s going to be the latter.


  4. 4 | May 31, 2012 9:34 am

    I certainly hope you are right, but I am not so sanguine. I think it will be a very close election, but I think Romney will win if he fights for it hard enough. It will be very pleasant to watch Liberal’s heads explode when Obama goes down. There could very well be riots in some places.


  5. MikeA
    5 | May 31, 2012 9:34 am

    @ Macker:

    RAAAAACIST!!!!

    //

    Ya know that any lefty reading that article would pick that out…


  6. MikeA
    6 | May 31, 2012 9:35 am

    @ Macker:

    Don’t think he will refuse to debate. He HAS to debate. It will be worse for him if he refuses. I think Romney will walk all over him.


  7. huckfunn
    7 | May 31, 2012 9:38 am

    Well said, and thanks for the HT. It’s been my thinking for quite a while that the inevitability of The Choomster-in-Chief’s ™ re-election is over rated and over stated. First of all, we know that he has allientated many of the people who voted for him in 2008 and those folks will vote against him or, at the very least, stay home. Secondly, where are the new converts that will replace the disaffected? He has nothing to run on. His shrill and divisive attacks are increasingly seen as hollow and/or false. Also, we’re beginning to see random acts of journalism from reporters such as ABC’s Jake Tapper who seem willing to challenge and question the daily dose of lies from Jay Carney. In the past 2 months we’ve seen the regime’s disastrous miscalculations in confronting the Catholic Church, attacking capitalism via Bain Capiital and the support of gay marriage. Those 3 items alone will cost Obama millions of votes.


  8. huckfunn
    8 | May 31, 2012 9:46 am

    Check this out: Black church leaders: Gay marriage ‘not a civil rights issue’
    A large percentage of those black churches will vote with their pastors.


  9. citizen_q
    9 | May 31, 2012 9:48 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Macker:
    Don’t think he will refuse to debate. He HAS to debate. It will be worse for him if he refuses. I think Romney will walk all over him.

    I think the outcome of a debate is held will depend alot upon whom is running the debate and how the debate is structured.

    If zero accepts a debate, it will likely be run and proctored by an MFM extension of the DNC, will be setup so that he can deliver up canned answers.


  10. 10 | May 31, 2012 9:48 am

    What I knew then, along with a handful of others, was that by November of 2010, the obviously idiotic and insane policies of the left would lead to an electoral backlash of historic proportions. I knew and predicted, along with a very few in number of others, that the GOP would become the majority party in the House in January of 2011,

    ROTFLMAO… And I have the posts on my blog to prove I was one of those few… :twisted:


  11. citizen_q
    11 | May 31, 2012 9:51 am

    @ huckfunn:
    I am wondering how strong the fraud vote will be this time.


  12. huckfunn
    12 | May 31, 2012 9:51 am

    Minn. pastor supports same-sex marriage, may lose church. This is one of those black churches where the congregation voted with their feet.


  13. 13 | May 31, 2012 9:53 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Check this out: Black church leaders: Gay marriage ‘not a civil rights issue’
    A large percentage of those black churches will vote with their pastors.

    I have been trying to tell people that it’s going to have a significant impact here in California. It was the African American community that pushed the hardest here for proposition 8′s passage, and having a white gay activist judge strike the law down as unconstitutional while making the assertion that Same Sex Marriage was the same as the Equal Right’s Movement was taken by them as a huge insult.


  14. heysoos
    14 | May 31, 2012 9:53 am

    very good post…thanks


  15. 15 | May 31, 2012 9:54 am

    @ huckfunn:

    Those Black churches are doing the right thing. They are choosing their faith over a false messiah who is considered Black. Jesus said beware of false prophets and Obama is in that category.


  16. huckfunn
    16 | May 31, 2012 9:54 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    I am wondering how strong the fraud vote will be this time.

    It will be strong but now the fraudsters know that people are watching. Florida just expunged over 50,000 dead people from the voter rolls with the application of a new data base. Also, there are a number of states that have new voter ID laws. Yes, some of those new laws have been blocked by Holder, but we are beginning to turn the tide against vote crime.


  17. 17 | May 31, 2012 9:58 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Those Black churches are doing the right thing. They are choosing their faith over a false messiah who is considered Black. Jesus said beware of false prophets and Obama is in that category.

    Which will of course leave a lot of politicians completely confused and angry. How dare the serfs not do or believe what their lords and masters tell them.


  18. huckfunn
    18 | May 31, 2012 9:58 am

    @ doriangrey:
    I remember seeing that. Teh ghey marriage thing has really been a disaster for Comrade 0. It will disaffect more people than it will gain. Most of those who supported gay marriage were already in BO’s camp so all he will see is a net loss of votes.


  19. 19 | May 31, 2012 9:59 am

    In all seriousness, Gay Marriage is a distraction from the real issue of the economy.


  20. 20 | May 31, 2012 10:00 am

    @ huckfunn:

    The gay marriage thing was a desperation move to drum up funds. It doesn’t look like Obama is going to get his billion dollar warchest (unless he taps into stimulus money squirreled away in the Caymans). Romney is keeping up with him in fund-raising, and that is a huge thing. Romney isn’t going to be stupid like McCain and take public funding. That way he’ll be able to spend on par with Obama.


  21. 21 | May 31, 2012 10:01 am

    @ doriangrey:

    There are alot of things that both Republicans and Democrats non elites are questioning. For example many Conservatives like em are questioning why the GOP is hell bent on war in Syria? You would think after the last 12 years and Americans being war weary, that they would noty try to ram this shit down our throats. But nope, Romney is all but calling to invade Syria.


  22. huckfunn
    22 | May 31, 2012 10:01 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Those Black churches are doing the right thing. They are choosing their faith over a false messiah who is considered Black. Jesus said beware of false prophets and Obama is in that category.

    I’m really glad to see it. Maybe we can begin to see a renaissance in the black community were they become willing to cast off the yoke of democrat servitude.


  23. Speranza
    23 | May 31, 2012 10:05 am

    Well I just had the fun experience of a colonoscopy. Thankfully I am fine -- however as regards the prep work -- all I can say is that I am in “Shock and Awe!”.


  24. 24 | May 31, 2012 10:05 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    There are alot of things that both Republicans and Democrats non elites are questioning. For example many Conservatives like em are questioning why the GOP is hell bent on war in Syria? You would think after the last 12 years and Americans being war weary, that they would noty try to ram this shit down our throats. But nope, Romney is all but calling to invade Syria.

    It just might have something to do with Saddam Hussein’s Weapons of Mass Destruction, which pretty much everyone knows were sent to Syria just days before Iraq was invaded. The FSA is “Promising” that the very first action they will take upon overthrowing Bashar is to secure those WMD and prevent Al Qaeda from obtaining them, which pretty much everyone with two functional brain cells is translating to, “As soon as we get our hands on those WMD we’re going to give them to Al Qaeda”.


  25. 25 | May 31, 2012 10:06 am

    @ Speranza:

    Good to hear you’re OK.


  26. huckfunn
    26 | May 31, 2012 10:06 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    The gay marriage thing was a desperation move to drum up funds.

    Basically, everything he does these days is a desperation move. He’s got nothing to run on… squat.


  27. 27 | May 31, 2012 10:08 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    The gay marriage thing was a desperation move to drum up funds.
    Basically, everything he does these days is a desperation move. He’s got nothing to run on… squat.

    Worse yet, he’s trying to run in a minefield of his own making.


  28. 28 | May 31, 2012 10:09 am

    @ doriangrey:

    It just might have something to do with Saddam Hussein’s Weapons of Mass Destruction

    Not this crap again. There are many countries with Chem/bio weapons. What are we going to do invade them all? Goosh, the elites don’t learn. Then again its not Romney’s kids who have to die for the wilsonian illusion.

    The FSA is “Promising” that the very first action they will take upon overthrowing Bashar is to secure those WMD and prevent Al Qaeda from obtaining them, which pretty much everyone with two functional brain cells is translating to, “As soon as we get our hands on those WMD we’re going to give them to Al Qaeda”.

    Which is why we should stay out of Syria. We should not enable the FSA Jihadis.


  29. huckfunn
    29 | May 31, 2012 10:10 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Worse yet, he’s trying to run in a minefield of his own making.

    Acme minefield; Wylie Coyote style. BOOM!


  30. 30 | May 31, 2012 10:13 am

    @ huckfunn:

    The one issue Obama can beat Romney on is Syria. The majority of Americans don’t want to get involved in Syria. Romney is calling for US intervention. If Obama swore that he will NOT get involved in Syria, he might be able to hurt Romney with it. But he won’t because Obama plans to get involved in Syria also.

    This shows you how both parties don’t give a crap about public opinion. The majority of Americans do not support a war in Syria.


  31. 31 | May 31, 2012 10:13 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Not this crap again. There are many countries with Chem/bio weapons. What are we going to do invade them all?

    ???? 99 percent of those countries with WMD/Chem/Bio weapons are not about to be overthrown by Al Qaeda. But hey, it’s ok, I understand why you are cool with Al Qaeda obtaining WMD.


  32. huckfunn
    32 | May 31, 2012 10:15 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    The one issue Obama can beat Romney on is Syria. The majority of Americans don’t want to get involved in Syria. Romney is calling for US intervention. If Obama swore that he will NOT get involved in Syria, he might be able to hurt Romney with it. But he won’t because Obama plans to get involved in Syria also.

    This shows you how both parties don’t give a crap about public opinion. The majority of Americans do not support a war in Syria.

    We need to keep our powder dry for Iran. A conflict with them is inevitable. We should have nailed their asses decades ago.


  33. huckfunn
    33 | May 31, 2012 10:16 am

    I’d better go earn my keep.

    Later…


  34. 34 | May 31, 2012 10:17 am

    @ doriangrey:

    What you are advocating is helping AL-Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood. What I’m calling for is let them kill each other. If Assad is close to falling he will use those weapons on AL-Qaeda.


  35. 35 | May 31, 2012 10:18 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    The one issue Obama can beat Romney on is Syria. The majority of Americans don’t want to get involved in Syria. Romney is calling for US intervention. If Obama swore that he will NOT get involved in Syria, he might be able to hurt Romney with it. But he won’t because Obama plans to get involved in Syria also.
    This shows you how both parties don’t give a crap about public opinion. The majority of Americans do not support a war in Syria.

    We need to keep our powder dry for Iran. A conflict with them is inevitable. We should have nailed their asses decades ago.

    I have an inclination to believe that when John Bolton says it’s something we NEED to do, he is probably correct.


  36. 36 | May 31, 2012 10:18 am

    @ huckfunn:

    Iran I’m Ok with hitting as long as we don’t occupy them. Just destroy their military and civilian infrastructure and let them collapse.

    I’m done with nation building in the Muslim World. Let them eat sand.


  37. 37 | May 31, 2012 10:19 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    What you are advocating is helping AL-Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood. What I’m calling for is let them kill each other. If Assad is close to falling he will use those weapons on AL-Qaeda.

    So, in your conspiracy laden mind Former Ambassador John Bolton has sold out to the Saudi’s… Yea… good luck trying to sell that dog turd to anyone.


  38. 38 | May 31, 2012 10:19 am

    @ doriangrey:

    So John Bolton can’t be wrong? Is he God now?


  39. 39 | May 31, 2012 10:21 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Yes Bolton probably was bought off and sold out. I have no respect for him anymore. He’s another Wilsonian nation builder.


  40. mawskrat
    40 | May 31, 2012 10:21 am

    Earning over $18 billion in 12 months, is the equivalent to earning $1,077,054 every 30 minutes of every day.

    nice paycheck


  41. Speranza
    41 | May 31, 2012 10:23 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Good to hear you’re OK.

    Health is wealth.


  42. 42 | May 31, 2012 10:23 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Yes Bolton probably was bought off and sold out. I have no respect for him anymore. He’s another Wilsonian nation builder.

    You have so totally lost it that it’s not even amusing anymore.


  43. 43 | May 31, 2012 10:26 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Sorry I live in reality. The last 20 years of fighting for Islamic interests have failed. I am sick of my nation being a puppet of Islamic interests.


  44. 44 | May 31, 2012 10:33 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Sorry I live in reality. The last 20 years of fighting for Islamic interests have failed. I am sick of my nation being a puppet of Islamic interests.

    No, you honestly do not. When you start accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being bought off by the Saudi’s you have genuinely lost it. Your hatred of Islam (while understandable) has taken over into some kind of paranoid conspiracy theory that has left reality far behind.


  45. 45 | May 31, 2012 10:34 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    We need to keep our powder dry for Iran. A conflict with them is inevitable. We should have nailed their asses decades ago.

    Like after the Hostages cleared Iranian Airspace.


  46. RIX
    46 | May 31, 2012 10:37 am

    Greetings from the cold & rainy Chicago Area
    Climate Chaos! We are all doomed!
    The latest Marquette University polling on the
    Wisconsin Recall has Walkier up 7%.
    The Dems are whining that the methodology was wrong and
    that Republicans were over sampled.
    Right those Reagan Conservative Jesuits rigged the
    poll for the Republican./


  47. citizen_q
    47 | May 31, 2012 10:39 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Worse yet, he’s trying to run in a minefield of his own making.

    Was it Sun Tsu who said something to the effect, when the enemy is defeating himself don’t stop him?


  48. 48 | May 31, 2012 10:40 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Worse yet, he’s trying to run in a minefield of his own making.
    Was it Sun Tsu who said something to the effect, when the enemy is defeating himself don’t stop him?

    Yup.


  49. mawskrat
    49 | May 31, 2012 10:40 am

    @ citizen_q:

    yep sumpthin like that


  50. lobo91
    50 | May 31, 2012 10:43 am

    @ citizen_q:

    James Carville said “When your opponent is drowning, throw him an anchor”


  51. MikeA
    51 | May 31, 2012 10:47 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

    Napoleon Bonaparte


  52. mawskrat
    52 | May 31, 2012 10:48 am

    out to work the gardens


  53. Alberta Oil Peon
    53 | May 31, 2012 10:54 am

    Rodan wrote:

    In all seriousness, Gay Marriage is a distraction from the real issue of the economy.

    Sure it is. But if it can be used against Obama, use it!

    Or, to put it differently, if your enemy is engaged in shooting himself in the foot, don’t get in his way!


  54. Alberta Oil Peon
    54 | May 31, 2012 10:58 am

    @ Rodan:
    So what’s wrong with marching into Syria and imposing Christianity at the point of an M16?


  55. 55 | May 31, 2012 10:59 am

    Boy, glad I’m stocked up on popcorn…

    “Wilsonian”… Sounds like a term that overwhelmed another site once upon a time -- “Gramscian”…

    If anybody remembers…


  56. RIX
    56 | May 31, 2012 11:00 am

    The ABC affiliate in Chicago was granted an hour
    telephone interview with Obama pal Tony Rezko, who
    is still in the slam.
    Rezko put any questions about Obama off of the table.
    Hmmm, ‘Keep your moth shut Tony & you ger a presidential
    pardon”?


  57. citizen_q
    57 | May 31, 2012 11:06 am

    RIX wrote:

    Hmmm, ‘Keep your moth shut Tony & you ger a presidential
    pardon”?

    Or, watch your Ps and Qs; accidents happen.


  58. 58 | May 31, 2012 11:06 am

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    So what’s wrong with marching into Syria and imposing Christianity at the point of an M16?

    We don’t have the balls to do it.


  59. 59 | May 31, 2012 11:08 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate!!!!!11ty!! 8O


  60. 60 | May 31, 2012 11:10 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Then explain the actions of the US the last 20 years? You have none and just go along with what people like Bolton said. Andrew McCarthy knows more about Islam than Bolton and others who are advising Romney put together. He prosecuted the blind sheik and had to read up on Islam. He’s dead set against Syrian intervention as are the majority of Conservatives and Americans.

    For someone who hates elites, you end up supporting their agenda their agenda.

    How about this:
    Let’s do a debate thread. You lay out the case for natuion building in Syria and I will lay out a counter case against it.


  61. 61 | May 31, 2012 11:12 am

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    So what’s wrong with marching into Syria and imposing Christianity at the point of an M16?

    That I could support. But that’s not what Romney and his gang want. They want another war to appear tough since its not their family that will be effected by this.


  62. 62 | May 31, 2012 11:13 am

    Rodan wrote:

    You lay out the case for natuion building in Syria and I will lay out a counter case against it.

    Who said a damned thing about nation building? you are delusional.


  63. EBL
    63 | May 31, 2012 11:17 am

    Apparently blowing rainbows up your butt is overrated.


  64. 64 | May 31, 2012 11:20 am

    EBL wrote:

    Apparently blowing rainbows up your butt is overrated.

    Who knew?


  65. RIX
    65 | May 31, 2012 11:21 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Or, watch your Ps and Qs; accidents happen

    .

    Could be that too. Either way ,Obama is up to
    his eyeballs in corruption with Rezko.


  66. citizen_q
    66 | May 31, 2012 11:26 am

    RIX wrote:

    Could be that too. Either way ,Obama is up to
    his eyeballs in corruption with Rezko.

    Which was pretty well known before the last election along with a raft of other problems, and why I am not impressed by those to claim shock about obama acting true to form. He is bad news. There is plenty of dirt, the obvious attempts at scrubbing his past notwithstanding, to deduce that he should be nowhere near the levers of power much less the president.


  67. lobo91
    67 | May 31, 2012 11:26 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ citizen_q:

    Or, watch your Ps and Qs; accidents happen

    Could be that too. Either way ,Obama is up to
    his eyeballs in corruption with Rezko.

    Are there any Chicago politicians who aren’t?


  68. RIX
    68 | May 31, 2012 11:31 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Which was pretty well known before the last election along with a raft of other problems, and why I am not impressed by those to claim shock about obama acting true to form. He is bad news. There is plenty of dirt, the obvious attempts at scrubbing his past notwithstanding, to deduce that he should be nowhere near the levers of power much less the president.

    I could no agree more. He fits the tempalte for a
    corrupt Marxist,


  69. 69 | May 31, 2012 11:32 am

    Former Ambassador John Bolton on how to deal with Syria.

    Meanwhile, he remains deeply troubled about the Obama administration’s approach in the Middle East. In Syria, he argued, “You can’t take [Bashar al-] Assad on unless you’re willing to take on Iran.” He’s convinced that Tehran is willing to invest plenty and see plenty of Syrian blood spilled to keep its surrogate in power. Quoting former secretary of state Al Haig, he said, “We should go to the source.”

    Bolton on nation building.

    We must achieve these objectives--which means essentially destroying the Taleban--whether or not the Afghan government shapes up. That is the right metric, not nation building. This is a hard truth, but realistic unless you are prepared to risk a nuclear Taleban.


  70. RIX
    70 | May 31, 2012 11:37 am

    @ lobo91:

    Are there any Chicago politicians who aren’t?

    To find one that is not would be like looking for a
    needle in a needle stack.
    The Mayor just before Daley, a guy named Martin
    kenneley was apparently honest.
    The Cook County Central Committe refused to endorse
    him for reelection
    The Chairman of that Committee was Richard J Daley & they
    endorsed Richard J Daley! Problem solved.


  71. RIX
    71 | May 31, 2012 11:43 am

    Elizabeth Wrren is now claiming that she is the first
    breast feeding mom to sit for the New jersey bar exam.
    Well, why didn’t she say so sooner?
    Now she has cred./


  72. 72 | May 31, 2012 11:46 am

    @ RIX:
    She was breastfeeding while she took the bar exam? I bet that was distracting… :roll:


  73. coldwarrior
    73 | May 31, 2012 11:49 am

    Those of us who pay attention to the inner workings of the cross tabs have noticed that either the samples are skewed to the point of fantasy in order to keep the projected race somewhat close, or Romney is gaining a widening lead. The polls that show a race as being a toss up for instance need a national D + 11 sample to gain those results.

    this is key….watch the crosstabs and samples


  74. 74 | May 31, 2012 11:50 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Meanwhile, he remains deeply troubled about the Obama administration’s approach in the Middle East. In Syria, he argued, “You can’t take [Bashar al-] Assad on unless you’re willing to take on Iran.” He’s convinced that Tehran is willing to invest plenty and see plenty of Syrian blood spilled to keep its surrogate in power. Quoting former secretary of state Al Haig, he said, “We should go to the source.”

    So Bolton supports isntalling the MB/Al-Qaeda in Syria. That proves my point, he’s either stupid on this or bought off. I’m with Andy McCarthy, stay out of this mess.


  75. 75 | May 31, 2012 11:51 am

    The trouble with Team Obama and the rest of the Socialist Democrat cabal is the peculiar conceit under which the far left operates -- the falsely held belief that not only are they correct, but that deep down everyone agrees with them. Poll after poll shows that at least 40% of the country considers itself “conservative,” with a scant 20% self-classifying as “liberal.” Shake out the extra 11% of the moderates who lean right and we have the majority.

    Since Obummer’s in trouble, it’s time to attack all the voter ID laws; unfortunately for that Criminal Masquerading as an Attorney General Eric Holder, he has no leg to stand on in challenging the voter laws. The Supreme Court has already ruled in Crawford four years ago that voter ID laws are not discriminatory. And it was a 6-3 decision, not 5-4, with the usual socialist pisspots Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer dissenting. Since then, most states have fashioned their voter ID laws around the wording in Indiana’s law, which was the basis for Crawford. Even the 9th Circus upheld Arizona’s voter ID laws as recently as last month. Fortunately for Obummer, California, a state that desperately needs a voter ID law, won’t be passing one anytime soon thanks to the twits in Sacramento, so he’s sure to win the state.

    Unfortunately for Obummer, California’s electoral votes go to the winner of the national popular vote, thanks to a law passed by twits mentioned above and the bigger twit in the Governor’s office that signed it. If Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the electoral vote (because they’re counting California), the news asshats will no doubt have forgotten that provision in California election law and start lecturing the right to “remember how we’re supposed to respect the process.”


  76. 76 | May 31, 2012 11:52 am

    @ doriangrey:

    You want to intervene in Syria. That’s nation building. If you can’t defend your position of invading Syria, then clrealy your position is wrong. If you are so sure about the righteouessness of your cause, man up and do a post why we should interven in Syria.


  77. RIX
    77 | May 31, 2012 11:56 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    She was breastfeeding while she took the bar exam? I bet that was distracting…

    Yup,that’s what they are reporting on WLS Radio.
    So she is part Cherokee, spawned the OWS Movement
    & can multi-task, breast feed & take the Bar.
    What is not to like?/


  78. taxfreekiller
    78 | May 31, 2012 11:56 am

    To start a war with Iran by knocking off these thugs and piss off the no good Russian Commies.

    good enough

    Start a war, win it. @ Rodan:


  79. 79 | May 31, 2012 11:57 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Meanwhile, he remains deeply troubled about the Obama administration’s approach in the Middle East. In Syria, he argued, “You can’t take [Bashar al-] Assad on unless you’re willing to take on Iran.” He’s convinced that Tehran is willing to invest plenty and see plenty of Syrian blood spilled to keep its surrogate in power. Quoting former secretary of state Al Haig, he said, “We should go to the source.”
    So Bolton supports isntalling the MB/Al-Qaeda in Syria. That proves my point, he’s either stupid on this or bought off. I’m with Andy McCarthy, stay out of this mess.

    Wow, this is why I am done discussing this with you. Nowhere is that even remotely suggested in what Bolton said. You are making shit up out of whole cloth. I’m out, this is absurd.


  80. huckfunn
    80 | May 31, 2012 12:03 pm

    More cracks in the dam. NBC poll: Dead heat in 3 key states


  81. 81 | May 31, 2012 12:04 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate!!!!!11ty!!

    Geez, don’t remind me…


  82. taxfreekiller
    82 | May 31, 2012 12:06 pm

    Would it be a bad thing to say the polls of late are a “dead cat bounce” for the current President?


  83. huckfunn
    83 | May 31, 2012 12:09 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Would it be a bad thing to say the polls of late are a “dead cat bounce” for the current President?

    See CW’s #73 above.


  84. citizen_q
    84 | May 31, 2012 12:11 pm

    How’s that a-rab spring working for you?

    Christians Should “Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave,” Says Muslim Brotherhood Presidential Candidate?

    According to the popular Egyptian website, El Bashayer, Muhammad Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood presidential candidate, just declared that he will “achieve the Islamic conquest (fath) of Egypt for the second time, and make all Christians convert to Islam, or else pay the jizya,” the traditional Islamic tax, or financial tribute, required of non-Muslim “dhimmis.”

    In a brief report written by Samuel al-Ashay and published by El Bashayer on May 27, Morsi allegedly made these comments while speaking with a journalist at the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party, adding “We will not allow Ahmed Shafiq [his contending presidential candidate] or anyone else to impede our second Islamic conquest of Egypt.”

    After his interviewer pointed out that the first Muslim conquest of Egypt was “carried out at the hands of Amr bin al-As [in 641],” he asked Morsi, “Who will the second Islamic conqueror be?” The presidential candidate replied, “The second Muslim conqueror will be Muhammad Morsi,” referring to himself, “and history will record it.”

    When asked what he thought about many Christian Copts coming out to vote for his secular opponent, Ahmed Shafiq, Morsi reportedly said, “They need to know that conquest is coming, and Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate.”

    If this interview is accurate, certainly Morsi would not be the first political Islamist in Egypt to say he wants to see the nation’s Christians subjugated and made to pay jizya


  85. lobo91
    85 | May 31, 2012 12:14 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    “We will not allow Ahmed Shafiq [his contending presidential candidate] or anyone else to impede our second Islamic conquest of Egypt.”

    Obama must be so proud…


  86. citizen_q
    86 | May 31, 2012 12:15 pm

    @ lobo91:
    and mccain.


  87. 87 | May 31, 2012 12:16 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Checka U E-mail!


  88. 88 | May 31, 2012 12:17 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    “Get Away From Freedom/Escape To Arab Spring!”


  89. 89 | May 31, 2012 12:17 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    I’m not for war in Syria. Its the same Bush gang wanting another conmflict in the name of Democracy. The Syrian fight is 2 of our enemies killing each other. Let them kill each other. Knocking off Assad to instil the Muslim Brotherhood is madness.

    Its not our problem.


  90. 90 | May 31, 2012 12:18 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ citizen_q:

    McCain’s friends!!!!!!!


  91. 91 | May 31, 2012 12:19 pm

    New Thread.


  92. taxfreekiller
    92 | May 31, 2012 12:20 pm

    I said start a war and win it, Syria, Iran, and Russia if they so need the ass kicking.

    Russia needs it ass kicked, they have been the source code of all the shit from 1960 to now. Enough already.@ Rodan:


  93. 93 | May 31, 2012 12:21 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Don’t be fooled by these guys. These are the same jerks that got us involved in Iraq. The difference is many Conservatives like me will call out their bullshit and expose their real agenda.

    Syria will not be like Iraq becauise there will be huge bi-partisan opposition. Romney better choose wisely on this. If he wnats war, his Presisdency will be toast.


  94. taxfreekiller
    94 | May 31, 2012 12:23 pm

    To keep China out of this war deal tell them we will buy 1/2 of the guns and tanks ect. from them to kill the f’n Russians with.

    China does not need the Russina shit stiring either.@ Rodan:


  95. 95 | May 31, 2012 12:24 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    The Muslim Brotherhood and AL-Qaeda will seize power in Syria. Do you really wnat that? It will result in teh slaughter and ethnic cleansing of Christians like what hapepned in Iraq. As a Catholic I can’t support a war that will result in the destruction of a Christian community.

    Let the Muslism killl each other in Syria.

    As for Russia, they don’t give 2 craps about Iran. In fact the US has done more for the House of Saud and Muslim Brotherhood than Russia has for Iran.


  96. 96 | May 31, 2012 12:25 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    I’m not with WWIII against Russia. My enemy is Islam, not fellow Christians.


  97. taxfreekiller
    97 | May 31, 2012 12:25 pm

    Syria + Iran =’s Russia

    Russia =’s Never ending shit.


  98. taxfreekiller
    98 | May 31, 2012 12:26 pm

    Russians are not Christians, they are commies/thugs nothing more.

    The poor people of Russian have no say or will not take a stand, they reep what the sow.

    Kick Russia’s ass and be done with it.@ Rodan:


  99. taxfreekiller
    99 | May 31, 2012 12:29 pm

    The deal in Vietnam was all Russia, China was just in it due to Russia, we kicked their ass but the commie loving Democrats/msm let them off the hook the Marines, Army, Air Force put them on.

    f’ Russian commie thug evil shit.


  100. 100 | May 31, 2012 12:31 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Syria + Iran =’s Russia
    Russia =’s Never ending shit.

    What about the Muslim Brotherhood and the House of Saud? They have done more damage to the US teh last 20 years than Russia.


  101. taxfreekiller
    101 | May 31, 2012 12:32 pm

    Russia to Iran,,,nuke stuff all Russian, guns, tanks, missles, ammo, oil and gas equipment, electric generation stuff, on and on Russian.

    Syria, more of the same to include $.

    The snake head is Russia.

    Remove the head.


  102. 102 | May 31, 2012 12:33 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    I refuse to support a war for the Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi Arabia. You do know Russia is enemies with the House of Saud and Muslim Brotherhood?


  103. taxfreekiller
    103 | May 31, 2012 12:35 pm

    Muslim Brotherhood is just a bunch of nut cake freaks in power as long as they do not over step what the army allows in E-gip.

    The House of Saud can be kick off the throne in about 15 min.

    Who is going to come to the aid of those blood sucking oil ticks who have robbed the world now for 50 years.


  104. taxfreekiller
    104 | May 31, 2012 12:37 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Rissian is the enemie of all, thugs and commies, they do not care.

    In fact they love the price the Saudies set for oil and endorce it.

    They too know the Muslim Brotherhood is just a bunch of nut case islamics without any means to back up their loud mouthed shit.


  105. 105 | May 31, 2012 12:44 pm

    @ Macker:

    Not seeing anything. Did you send to work or personal?


  106. 106 | May 31, 2012 12:52 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Muslim Brotherhood is just a bunch of nut cake freaks in power as long as they do not over step what the army allows in E-gip.

    They have seized control of many Mideast countries and have many Americans politicians like John MCcain bought off. They are very powerful.

    The House of Saud can be kick off the throne in about 15 min.

    Who is going to come to the aid of those blood sucking oil ticks who have robbed the world now for 50 years.

    They have at their beck and calling American politiicans and the US military. So they are the most powerful nation on Earth and we are defacto vassal state of theirs.

    I view the House of Saud aas the root of all evil.


  107. taxfreekiller
    107 | May 31, 2012 3:26 pm

    Keep in mind this:

    If the U.S. Senate and House,, signed off on by the Pres. as in the cut off of $ on Vietnam and the fact they then threw American Fighting men/women under their evil money cult bus,,,,

    Just how easy and quick will they do the same to the house of Sod’s.

    The musleman nut cases are just useful fool nut cases to these money cult members.

    The only real power on planet earth are U.S. Fighting Men and Women.

    We are it, if you want to join quit fighting these fake shadow’s the evil money cult wave in front of you to get you to hand over your tax money (protection money).

    @ Rodan:


  108. kohler
    108 | May 31, 2012 5:42 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    The National Popular Vote bill would not be in effect until/unless enacted by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes– enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). Only then would all the electoral votes from the enacting states be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC.

    The bill has passed 31 state legislative chambers in 21 states. The bill has been enacted by 9 jurisdictions possessing 132 electoral votes -- 49% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.


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