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The Obama Boom: 1st Quarter GDP for 2012 grew at 1.9%

by Rodan ( 76 Comments › )
Filed under Business, Economy at May 31st, 2012 - 12:00 pm

(Hat Tip: Huckfunn)

The great Obama Boom is going through a rocky phase. After an initial reporting of GDP coming in for the 1st Quarter of 2012 at 2.2%, the media celebrated. This said it was proof of the strong recovery and was a good start to the year. That number has been reduced to 1.9%. The great economic recovery is starting the year with 1.9% growth. To make matters worse this week’s unemployment claims rose and the ADP monthly job report came in weaker than expected.

Private payroll growth accelerated only slightly last month and claims for jobless benefits rose last week, suggesting the U.S. labor market recovery was stalling after a strong performance early in the year.

Other data on Thursday showed economic growth in the first quarter was a bit softer than initially estimated, with businesses restocking shelves more slowly than previously thought and government spending declining more sharply.

[...]

Private employers created 133,000 jobs in May, payrolls processor ADP said. That was below economists’ expectations for 148,000 jobs.

[...]

While economists have largely shrugged off the recent cooling in the labor market as payback for strong gains during winter, there are signs of fundamental weakness.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits rose 10,000 to a seasonally adjusted 383,000, a Labor Department report showed. Claims have now risen in seven of the last eight weeks.

[...]

Separately, gross domestic product increased at a 1.9 percent annual rate in the first quarter, down from the 2.2 percent the Commerce Department had estimated last month. The economy grew at a 3.0 percent rate in the fourth quarter.

The report also showed that after-tax corporate profits dropped for the first time in three years last quarter.

A modest downward revision to consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity, and stronger import growth also accounted for the weaker first-quarter output. Economists polled by Reuters had expected growth would be revised down to a 1.9 percent pace.

Terrible economic news, but don’t worry, good times are ahead!

While the small inventory build-up held back growth in the January-March quarter, restocking of shelves, retreating gasoline prices and an improving housing market should provide a boost to output in the second quarter.

Growth in the second quarter is currently estimated at a pace of about 2.5 percent

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  These people really have have faith in the Pharaonic Regime. Despite weeks and months of bad data, the media and their “economists” still claim good times are here or are just around the corner. They have been proclaiming this for the last 3 years yet these good times have not materialized.

The Obama Boom is a lie that refuses to die. Only in Pharaonic America is 1.9% GDP growth and 100,000 jobs created monthly is considered great economic times.

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76 Responses to “The Obama Boom: 1st Quarter GDP for 2012 grew at 1.9%”
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  1. RIX
    1 | May 31, 2012 12:03 pm

    Obama is a stone cold economic disaster.
    Come to think of it, he is a disaster in general.
    I don’t think that the MSM can save him.


  2. 2 | May 31, 2012 12:13 pm

    @ RIX:

    The economy is booming!!!!!!!!!

    ////


  3. yenta-fada
    3 | May 31, 2012 12:14 pm

    There is a full on bank run in Spain right now. That’s bigger than Greece. Anybody who doesn’t think this will be felt around the world is hiding their head in the sand. You have a president who doesn’t give a cr@p about what happens to anyone except himself.
    The utterly broke U.S. is pumping newly printed money to Europe, even though it is not officially announced as quantitive easing YET.

    As Ian McCavity (technical analyst supremo) says, “Right now the U.S. dollar is the prettiest horse in the glue factory.”


  4. yenta-fada
    4 | May 31, 2012 12:17 pm

    FRANKFURT — Mario Draghi, president of the European Central Bank, warned Thursday that the structure of the euro zone had become “unsustainable” and criticized political leaders he said have been slow to respond to the sovereign debt crisis.

    “The configuration we had for 10 years, which was considered sustainable, has been shown now to be unsustainable unless further steps are undertaken,” Mr. Draghi told a committee of the European Parliament in Brussels.

    In what may have been his bluntest criticism of political leaders since taking office in November, Mr. Draghi said that half-measures and delays by political leaders have made the euro zone crisis worse. He said they need to decide what kind of euro zone they want.

    “The next step is for our leaders to clarify what is the vision for a certain number of years from now,” he said. “The sooner this has been specified, the better. Dispel this fog.”


  5. 5 | May 31, 2012 12:26 pm

    BOOOOOOM!


  6. 6 | May 31, 2012 12:29 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    You are racist for not appreciating Obama’s economic wisdom!!!!!!!!
    ////////////////////


  7. huckfunn
    7 | May 31, 2012 12:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    You are racist for not appreciating Obama’s economic wisdom!!!!!!!!
    ////////////////////


  8. 8 | May 31, 2012 12:43 pm

    Read this email Instapiundit got:

    Please do not use my name, but…

    I work at a large semiconductor company who does a LOT of business with Chinese firms (odds are many is not most of the electronic devices you have that say “made in China” on it buys it’s most expensive parts from us). recently orders have dropped precipitously. We are expecting to reduce the workforce before the end of the quarter by dropping contractor (temp) labor. We are entering what for the semiconductor industry is the Christmas sales season and the orders are going DOWN! Be afraid. Be very afraid.

    Scary, scary. And Europe looks to be coming apart. Obama is doing nothing to help the situation. We need a Republican Government, a real Republican governemnt, more than we’ve needed one since 1860.


  9. 9 | May 31, 2012 12:53 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    OMG!!!!!!!!1

    I’m updating my post with that!


  10. huckfunn
    10 | May 31, 2012 12:55 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    OMG!!!!!!!!1

    I’m updating my post with that!

    There’s some good chit over at The People’s Cube.


  11. 11 | May 31, 2012 12:58 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Just updated. Its perfect!

    Oh People’s cue is a riot!


  12. 12 | May 31, 2012 1:00 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    How…metrosexual!


  13. huckfunn
    13 | May 31, 2012 1:00 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ Macker:
    :wink:


  14. 14 | May 31, 2012 1:01 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    We need a Republican Government, a real Republican governemnt

    We are gioing to find out if the GOP is erious are they are just a bunch of Socialists. If Romney gets us involved in another nation building project and governs Big Governmnet style like Bush, that will be the end of the GOP. It will be his call.

    Me persoanlly I don’t expect much out of the GOP and just voting for them so I can have a pretext to go after the GOP. I am calling their bluff.


  15. MikeA
    15 | May 31, 2012 1:04 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I have been hearing from a variety of places that the second half of the yearis gonna get interesting. Christmas is not going to be to merry. Europe is going to have a reckoning with the reckless spending. The banks in Spain are going to fall next and Italy is ready.


  16. 16 | May 31, 2012 1:15 pm

    @ MikeA:

    Its going to get ugly.


  17. 17 | May 31, 2012 1:16 pm

    @ MikeA:

    Are you saying that Italy has actually done something right?


  18. MikeA
    18 | May 31, 2012 1:19 pm

    @ Macker:

    No…. Italy will be the next domino after Spain.


  19. 19 | May 31, 2012 1:19 pm

    @ MikeA:

    Then France.


  20. MikeA
    20 | May 31, 2012 1:28 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Hey, maybe this time the Germans will take over Europe. Third time’s a charm…


  21. 21 | May 31, 2012 1:31 pm

    @ MikeA:

    Maybe that was the plan all along.

    Merkell will have done what neither the Kaiser nor Hitler ever dreamed of doing. Irony of history.


  22. SciFiGuy
    22 | May 31, 2012 1:35 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Without firing a shot..


  23. 23 | May 31, 2012 1:40 pm

    @ SciFiGuy:

    Yup. Moral of the story, keep your economic and fiscal house in order.


  24. huckfunn
    24 | May 31, 2012 1:41 pm

    More Obama boombings… America Lost 129,000 Millionaires in 2011


  25. 25 | May 31, 2012 1:42 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Foreclose on the PIIGS!!!!!!!11ty!! That’d put the cat amongst the canaries….


  26. yenta-fada
    26 | May 31, 2012 1:42 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Hey, maybe this time the Germans will take over Europe. Third time’s a charm…

    Don’t kid yourself about France. The Euro banks hold a lot of each other’s sovereign bonds.Credit Agricole is not doing well and it’s a big bank. The question is are the German banks able to withstand this.
    There are rumors about Deutsche Bank and its solvency. There is also talk about a northern euro and a southern euro where the stronger countries try to get rid of their weak sisters.


  27. 27 | May 31, 2012 1:43 pm

    @ Rodan:

    We could learn from that. We’ll be in Greece’s position in less than 15 years at the rate we are going. Considerably less if Obama is re-elected. This is the most important election since the 1860 Presidential Election.


  28. yenta-fada
    28 | May 31, 2012 1:44 pm

    California doesn’t “get” it.

    AP:SACRAMENTO, Calif.) California’s Senate on Wednesday passed a bill that would create a guaranteed, government-run retirement savings program catering to private-sector workers of modest means.

    Lawmakers passed SB1234 by Sen. Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, and Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, on a 23-13 vote. It now moves to the Assembly.

    Unlike individual retirement accounts, de Leon said his legislation would create a “defined benefit retirement” plan with a guaranteed rate of return. He described the California Secure Choice Retirement Savings Act as a supplement to Social Security for nearly 7 million Californians without access to a workplace retirement plan.

    Republican lawmakers opposed the measure, noting that workers whose employers don’t offer 401(k) accounts already can establish low-cost private retirement accounts, such as traditional IRAs and Roth IRAs. They say Democrats don’t want to upset their union allies by tackling public pension reform as proposed by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown.


  29. yenta-fada
    29 | May 31, 2012 1:50 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    We could learn from that. We’ll be in Greece’s position in less than 15 years at the rate we are going. Considerably less if Obama is re-elected. This is the most important election since the 1860 Presidential Election.

    Your statement about the election is very true. I think you are waaaay off on the timeline, but I’ve said that before. In fact, June is a crucial month with Greek elections. There is also an international clearing house called SWIFT. (I can’t keep track of the acronyms). The embargo on oil from Iran has created an alternate clearing system doing an end run around the SWIFT system. China and Iran, e.g. are directly trading using settlement mechanisms OUTSIDE the dollar. The implications are that oil and other commodities could be priced in something other than the dollar. The Chinese are quickly
    working on internationalizing their currency. They buy tons of gold because they historically LOVE it and because they expect it to help prop up their currency. A commodities exchange is being created in China that will bypass New York, Chicago, and London. This is happening in the present…not in some distant future.


  30. yenta-fada
    30 | May 31, 2012 1:51 pm

    By the way, that picture of Ozero is vomitacious.


  31. yenta-fada
    31 | May 31, 2012 1:54 pm

    Zero flies his barber from Chicago into the WH every two weeks.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama/2012/05/30/report-obama-flies-special-barber-wh-every-two-weeks

    See, vomitacious.


  32. yenta-fada
    32 | May 31, 2012 1:58 pm

    Here’s more big time trading done OUTSIDE of the U.S. currency settlement:

    This is not dollar positive. The mirror image dollar rally is limited in time.

    Japan and China to start direct currency trading on Friday
    Business May. 29, 2012 – 02:35PM JST

    Japan and China will start direct currency trading this week, Tokyo said Tuesday, the first time Beijing has let a major unit other than the dollar swap with the Yuan.

    The move, which will scrap the greenback as an intermediary unit, comes as China introduces measures as part of a long-term goal of internationalizing its currency to rival the dollar.

    The two-way trade will also be allowed to move in a wider range than the narrow band at which the dollar and Yuan change hands, Dow Jones Newswires and the Nikkei business daily reported.

    China will set a daily rate based on dealer quotes with trade allowed to move within a 3% band above or below that rate, the reports said, compared with a 1% band fixed to Yuan-dollar trading.


  33. yenta-fada
  34. 34 | May 31, 2012 2:03 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’ll be the first to admit that it could happen faster than I think it will, but anyone can look forward 15 years or so and see the wall we’ll hit when SSI goes bust and MediCare takes over the Federal budget. I think there is still time to get a handle on it, but time is fleeing quickly. Four more years of Obama may very well put us past the point of no return. I don’t know what happens then. We are more fractured in our society than we have been since the Civil War, but the fractures don’t break down neatly along sectional lines this time (wasn’t so neat back then either, what with brothers killing brothers and all). I see the Solvent States versus the Insolvent States. Kind of what is going on in Europe right now.


  35. 35 | May 31, 2012 2:04 pm

    I see WTI is below $ 87/bbl at the moment. Folks invested in plays like the Eagle Ford and Bakken have got to be getting worried at this point. Probably isn’t doing Shell’s pending Chukchi (SP?) Sea project any good, either.


  36. yenta-fada
    36 | May 31, 2012 2:05 pm

    I don’t know anything about twitter, but here’s Iowahawk’s recent tweet. Comic relief.

    http://twitter.com/#!/iowahawkblog


  37. yenta-fada
    37 | May 31, 2012 2:08 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    4 more years of Ozero is unthinkable. The dilithium crystals or something are gonna blow, captain.


  38. yenta-fada
    38 | May 31, 2012 2:10 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    I see WTI is below $ 87/bbl at the moment. Folks invested in plays like the Eagle Ford and Bakken have got to be getting worried at this point. Probably isn’t doing Shell’s pending Chukchi (SP?) Sea project any good, either.

    Is that a reflection of slowing economies? I don’t trust the prices of
    things anymore. I think there is too much manipulation of markets and general lying about everything.


  39. 39 | May 31, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    And he’ll be more “flexible” if he is re-elected. That is what really scares me. Gun control could turn into a real shooting war real quick if he gets overly ambitious about it. It isn’t even something that is popular with Democrats these days, but I could see Obama doing something drastic via Executive Order and daring the Congress to stop him.


  40. 40 | May 31, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    When Big Gulps are outlawed….
    Only Outlaws will have Big Gulps.


  41. 41 | May 31, 2012 2:14 pm

    BTW -- I see Facebook is down to 27.18 at the moment.
    Apple is at 578.73. Go figure.


  42. huckfunn
    42 | May 31, 2012 2:18 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    When Big Gulps are outlawed….
    Only Outlaws will have Big Gulps.

    … from my cold, fat fingers… :grin:


  43. 43 | May 31, 2012 2:20 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    It is but winning the election is not all. If the GOP does teh same BS they always do, then its time for the Right to break with the GOP. This is their chance to put up or go the way of the whigs.


  44. 44 | May 31, 2012 2:21 pm

    Funny chit from IMAO..

    * Obama says he probably knows more about Judaism than any other president because he read a book about them and some of his best friends were Jews and he once dissected one. Obama then said he was the strongest president ever and challenged all other presidents to a fight. When George W. Bush accepted, Obama said he had a cold so he’d have to postpone the fight. Then Obama said he was going to grow the BIGGEST MUSTACHE OF ALL PRESIDENTS, one so huge it would make Teddy Roosevelt look like he had a pedostache in comparison. He then said he was going to create the most jobs of any presidents… but then decided against that so he could focus more on the mustache thing.

    Dude cracks me up.


  45. 45 | May 31, 2012 2:24 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    The Facebook IPO was a dud.


  46. 47 | May 31, 2012 2:25 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Obama is the almighty god-king/Pharaoh. He knows about all religions becasue he is God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    /////////

    The sad part is there are people who really believe this about Obama.


  47. yenta-fada
    48 | May 31, 2012 2:25 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    When Big Gulps are outlawed….
    Only Outlaws will have Big Gulps.

    You are the SNARKMEISTER! Your posts on Kimberlin were brilliant.


  48. 49 | May 31, 2012 2:26 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Oil is falling on demand. A reflection of teh Euro Zone problems, and slowing economies in China and India, primarily.

    Either that, or it’s a conspiracy amongst Eee-vil Oil Companies to drive down prices and cut their own profits! We need the 5,476th congessional investigation!

    Er, wait a minute…


  49. 50 | May 31, 2012 2:27 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Oops -- I forgot about the speculators conspiring to lose their asses…


  50. yenta-fada
    51 | May 31, 2012 2:28 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Dude makes me nervous.


  51. 52 | May 31, 2012 2:28 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    It is but winning the election is not all. If the GOP does teh same BS they always do, then its time for the Right to break with the GOP. This is their chance to put up or go the way of the whigs.

    Even a leaky boat beats a life preserver. Yeah, I get your point, but I’ll worry ’bout that when Obama’s no more than a mouthy ex-POTUS.


  52. yenta-fada
    53 | May 31, 2012 2:29 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Mike C.:

    Oops – I forgot about the speculators conspiring to lose their asses…

    Yeah. That’s a good one.


  53. SciFiGuy
    55 | May 31, 2012 2:31 pm

    CO-incidence?

    I think not!!!


  54. citizen_q
    56 | May 31, 2012 2:31 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Saw that, we cracked wise about it last night.

    When obamam-messiah loses his eqo will collapse upon him so hard a singularity will form, or we will be presented with an epic trantrum that would do a 4 year old in Walmart proud.


  55. huckfunn
    57 | May 31, 2012 2:32 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Oil is falling on demand. A reflection of teh Euro Zone problems, and slowing economies in China and India, primarily.

    Either that, or it’s a conspiracy amongst Eee-vil Oil Companies to drive down prices and cut their own profits! We need the 5,476th congessional investigation!

    Er, wait a minute…

    As gasoline prices fall, The Choomster-in-Chief ™ will beat his chest and point out yet another of his great accomplishments.


  56. 58 | May 31, 2012 2:32 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I was reading on Breitbart that Team Obama is really worried about money. They had expected to be able to steamroll Romney like they did McCain and that ain’t happening this time. I am pleased to see it. I hope Obama doesnt raise $700 million dollars. Wish I were a bundler for Romney, but I don’;t have the money to donate myself, let alone the skills to rais oodles of cash for anyone else.


  57. yenta-fada
    59 | May 31, 2012 2:38 pm

    Kewl gif of Malcolm X morphing into Zero:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_smt2Srk_MU/TrT2X4v2lJI/AAAAAAAAGG0/KqpVygzwI5k/s1600/obama_x1.gif


  58. 60 | May 31, 2012 2:42 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Link to the Breitbart article.


  59. yenta-fada
    61 | May 31, 2012 2:42 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    I was reading on Breitbart that Team Obama is really worried about money. They had expected to be able to steamroll Romney like they did McCain and that ain’t happening this time. I am pleased to see it. I hope Obama doesnt raise $700 million dollars. Wish I were a bundler for Romney, but I don’;t have the money to donate myself, let alone the skills to rais oodles of cash for anyone else.

    Yep. That’s the Ayn Rand? quote ‘sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money’. When consumers are stretched, retail suffers. With undeclared inflation running high, even the big guys are not so keen to support an obvious failure of leadership.


  60. 62 | May 31, 2012 2:57 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Yep. That’s the Ayn Rand? quote ‘sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money’.

    I thought that was Thatcher, but I’ve been mistaken before….


  61. Lily
    63 | May 31, 2012 3:00 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Hey, maybe this time the Germans will take over Europe. Third time’s a charm…

    Yeah that worked out so well the first two times. LOL. Dear heavens it feels like we went back in the way back machine to the early 1900′s.


  62. 64 | May 31, 2012 3:03 pm

    @ Lily:

    We only wish we had. There would be flaws to going back to the way things were in 1900 (Jim Crow and the state of medicine being two of the more obvious ones), but shrinking the size and scope of the Federal Government down to what it was in 1900 would be a positive blessing.


  63. Lily
    65 | May 31, 2012 3:03 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    When Big Gulps are outlawed….
    Only Outlaws will have Big Gulps.

    Isn’t that insane! Good night in Georgia….I’m getting sick of things like this. I wonder how New Yorker’s feel about this.
    /oh yes this is the most pressing thing too!


  64. Lily
    66 | May 31, 2012 3:05 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Give me your money, from WZ:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/31/team-obama-demands-donors-get-off-the-sidelines-and-send-cash-now/#comment-735471

    Uhmmm they don’t have any to spare. Not to mention the last time they donated they didn’t even get a thank-you not. Very poor manners.


  65. 67 | May 31, 2012 3:06 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Lily:

    We only wish we had. There would be flaws to going back to the way things were in 1900 (Jim Crow and the state of medicine being two of the more obvious ones), but shrinking the size and scope of the Federal Government down to what it was in 1900 would be a positive blessing.

    I don’t think we could take it back to 1900 but, at this point, I’d be satisfied with 1960.


  66. 68 | May 31, 2012 3:08 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    BTW – I see Facebook is down to 27.18 at the moment.
    Apple is at 578.73. Go figure.

    I wonder if Apple might declare a 2-1 split any time soon?


  67. Lily
    69 | May 31, 2012 3:11 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    LOL! I was just basically saying history repeats itself.


  68. 70 | May 31, 2012 3:17 pm

    @ Lily:

    1960 sounds much more doable. So long as they include Drop Ships in the US Arsenal, along with a vastly expanded nuclear weapons array to counter anything the Mohammedans, not to mention Russia and China, have in mind.


  69. Mars
    71 | May 31, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ Lily:
    As a cigar smoker I have been fighting these draconian regulations for a long time. I’ve tried pointing out to people that this is an incremental plan. First the cigarette smokers (Since almost everyone is against them), followed by cigar hobbyists, then soft drinks and candy bars, followed by alcohol, then fat, then salt, and on and on and on.

    The order changes but they always go after the smokers first. Because, apparently my one cigar a week is deadly to the public, even though it’s in my own back yard or other area with other cigar smokers. (Except for cigar shops and bars, that’s a big no/no even though all the employees at those places also smoke.)


  70. Lily
    72 | May 31, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ Macker:

    Indeed. Our enemies see weakness in the White House. He has tarnished this nation like no other and that says a lot.


  71. 73 | May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    LOL! I was just basically saying history repeats itself.

    Heh, conversations do take on a life of their own, don’t they?


  72. Lily
    74 | May 31, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ Mars:

    I smoke cigarettes…and yes I feel like a damn outsider…I am to be shunned at all costs…not to mention I also drink…SODA’S! The horrors of horrors a double-down bad.


  73. Lily
    75 | May 31, 2012 3:25 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    LOL! I was just basically saying history repeats itself.

    Heh, conversations do take on a life of their own, don’t they?

    Yes they do. :)


  74. 76 | May 31, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ Macker:
    @ MacDuff:
    @ Iron Fist:

    I’d be happy if we can roll back government to the level it was in 2000.


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