Let’s start off with this doozy from my favorite, MSNBC. In this clip we get a dose of a little side show I like to call, “exactly how crazy are those Mormons any how?” The message here seems to be that there is a rumor of some disavowed prophecy in which apparently, way back in the 1860′s, it was foretold that a Mormon who ran for President would actually agree that our Constitution was a good thing. Wait for this little tidbit, Mitt Romney has actually praised our founding documents, gasp! Putting aside the fact the the Mormons themselves haven’t been talking about this at all since the 1860′s, and that Mitt Romney has pretty much kept on message about real issues, and further has stayed completely away from anything even remotely dealing with religious issues personally, Some reporter at MSNBC actually took the time and effort to dig this up, dust it off, and is attempting to make it a campaign issue. Is there anyone honest at MSMBC?
CNN has been touting themselves as the middle ground between MSNBC, clearly on the left, and Fox, criminally on the right for the better part of a year now. How are they doing? Well, a year and a half ago, I put up a post in which I called Wolf Blitzer the real life version of Ron Burgundy. Have they shown improvement? The short answer is no. Watch this clip of Soledad O’Brien trying her best to sucker John Sununu into a fight over the birther nonsense. O’Brien asks the question, and Sununu states plainly that neither he, nor, more importantly Mitt Romney subscribe to the whole thing. Undaunted, Soledad presses on with the, “well Donald Trump believes it,” ploy. Sununu swats that aside, and points out that the subject only comes up now because CNN is asking to talk about it. Missing the irony, O’Brien pushes onward with the ridiculous line of questioning. Three minutes and twenty – six seconds of air time is wasted on getting Sununu to say exactly what he said in the first ten seconds, which is, Obama was born in Hawaii.
Special note on this one. As it turns out, the entire Birth Place of Obama crap was actually started by Hillary Clinton’s team and the original court case was filed by long time Clinton operative Philip Berg. The rumor as it turns out was started by Barack Obama himself in 1995 when he was hawking his first book. His publisher felt that he would sell more copies of the literary masterpiece if he claimed to be a foreigner. As it turns out, it does not mean that he is ineligible to be President, only that his ability to lie sinks to the level of a Kennedy or a Clinton.
Get used to this level of dishonest reporting my friends, it is going to be a long 5 months filled with a compliant pussy cat media hell bent on getting Barack Obama reelected. Crazy Mitt the Mormon stories will abound. All conservatives are fringe racist homophobic nut jobs stories will be mega blasted across the air waves and presented as the only thing anyone should really be afraid of at all. meanwhile, earlier this week, our President just awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to an avowed Communist, Deloris Huerta. Noting that Barack Obama is a flat out Marxist will be duly reported as racism, completely ignoring the small fact that it is true.
Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.
Tags: Media bias, Mormons
We CAN, of course, vote Обама’s Filthy Communist Ass OUT in November, just on his policies alone. BUT we have to work hard to do it.
I honestly could care less that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Personally he way better than a damn communist who now resides in the White House.
I don’t think religious people of other denominations are going to care that he is a Mormon. Because right now bho is attacking our religious freedoms and that says a lot.
Friends of mine in Utah have told me the press have been running wild there for over a year. There’s also a bunch more reality shows in the works showing the spinoff cults (the ones who still accept polygamy) planning to run this summer.
I’ve been in my LDS churches on and off for the last 30 years and I’ve never heard a damn thing about this prophecy. They are really reaching.
Here’s a little treat for those who say allowing gay marriage will have no effect on government forcing churches to violate their own beliefs.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ontario-officials-may-force-catholic-schools-to-accept-gay-straight-alliances/
@ Mars:
If he were Catholic they would bring up the Crusades.
I would much prefer a Morman in the White House than a man that okays live-birth abortions. If they want to get that nit-picky..they better be prepared for the back-lash of Black Liberatian Theology…yet in 2008 that didn’t get any traction. Let the RNC and Romney stay above this like you said Mars and let the blogs, books and pundits get dirty with this.
Mars wrote:
I’m awaiting a spate of “Pedophile Priest” stories, even if there’s no new incidents or information, as a way to wage PR war on the Catholics.
@ MacDuff:
Already happening in MT, they’ve started bringing up old cases for no apparent reason.
Mars wrote:
Anyone with half a brain should know this is the real reason for this push.
The U.S. Catholic Bishops are preparing Catholics for what some are saying may be the largest wave of civil disobedience since the Civil Rights Movement.
The Catholic Church last week sued the Obama Administration over President Obama’s decree that all employers must pay for health insurance that covers abortions, sterilizations and contraceptives, all of which violate Catholic moral teachings. The pope himself has spoken on the issue and pointed out the threat posed by Obama’s attempt to force Catholics to cooperate in “intrinsically evil practices.”
Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/5404/is-this-the-civil-war-obamas-looking-for-bishops-prep-catholics-for-mass-defiance/#ixzz1wTgCtfKY
Lily wrote:
Actually, I’m game for a new round of modern Crusades, myself. We have some unfinished business. Picture it; a “Warrior Pope” in a Situation Room deep beneath the Vatican, directing Papal Black Ops throughout the Middle East. I dig the concept!
@ Mars:
The Catholic Church will NOT take this laying down. They are already basically fixing to wage war with bho. I have never seen the Catholic Church this riled up ….ever in my lifetime.
@ MacDuff:
That would be nice. I think there might be a couple fiction books with a concept like that.
@ MacDuff:
I think this pope knows exactly what Islam is all about. Right now the Catholic Church is cleaning house of all the liberal-leftist nonsense that has creeped into the Church.
/but the image you have is very interesting to say the least!
Now that CNN is getting all analytical about some dated
Morman mythology, I am sure that they will now turn
their sights on Obama.
They will soon analyze the Koranic Studies that was part
of Barry’s education in Jakarta.
And you just know that they will completey analyze Black
Liberation theology & the all of the racism, anti-semitism
& anti-Americanism that Barack sat & listened to for twenty
years , giving in the very least tacit approval.
CNN will tee that up right away./
Dear CNN:
If you want to know why your ratings suck so badly they affect the tides, please see clip of that fucking looney tune Soledad O’Brien, above.
Lily wrote:
Oddly, this could serve to bring a lot of people back to the Church. The administration has chosen to make The Church the focus of their attack and are making Catholics the point of the spear.
@ RIX:
Yep when hell freezes over.
/how this man got away with the BLT crap is beyond belief. Yet they want to go down this road on Mitt’s religion…seems like a bad move
but hey…like everyone says, ‘when your enemy is shooting himself in the foot…just step out of the way.’
@ Lily:
Have you heard if they are dropping support for so called social justice?
I am curious. My in-laws are devout Catholics, and they have spoken of social justice in relation to their spirituality (believe it not in a conversation with one of their muslim sons in-law).
@ RIX:
That might be fair and balanced…….ooops that’s the dreaded FOX slogan! /
MacDuff wrote:
Indeed. They really stepped into this big time. He really has a hate on the Catholic Church and Jewish people. Makes you think doesn’t it.
The Catholic Church knows what he is all about. HE IS A LIAR..DON’T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS!
@ RIX:
Holding breath, we should be witnessing these reports any time now, ready 3…2…1…?
citizen_q wrote:
They are weaning this out. Mainly because they don’t understand what excatly social justice is. Real social justice has killed millions and million of innocent people. The concept with the Catholic Church isn’t the same. But as to this confusion they are weeding this type of stuff out and getting back to basic’s. Sending priests to learn Latin again and having Latin masses. I have seen A LOT of change in the Church within the past couple of years.
citizen_q wrote:
I would also bet if you asked your in-laws to define “social justice” they would not be able to give you the correct meaning of it. Because my mother also ‘believed’ in social justice too…I asked her to ‘define’ it and she couldn’t. I told her to be aware of anything with “social________ (anything). Now whether she took this to heart I’ll know the next time I see her.
Lily wrote:
Obama got a pass becuse of his race & silly geese in the
media getting thrills up their legs.
@ RIX:
I would question any so-called man who got thrills up their legs for another man. I would say “Really? You want to say that????”
Flyovercountry wrote:
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CNN is completely fair./
Lily wrote:
I’m guessing that they like show tunes. Fabulous!
RIX wrote:
RIX wrote:
Throws up arms….”Lets go shopping girl!!!”.
Lily wrote:
As I have said before, Mormonism—whatever else it may be—is a homegrown American-exceptionalist religion.
Just as The Wonderful Wizard of Oz and its related books are an attempt by the American L. Frank Baum to create American rather than European fairy tales, Mormonism—born during that time of religious and utopian ferment in the early 19th century—is an effort to create a distinctly American Christianity.
I know that many Christians are uncomfortable with, and/or disagree with, Mormonism on these grounds. But every religion is odd to those who do not follow it; four hundred years ago, in Europe, people massacred each other in droves over such questions. Here in the US, we have—for the most part—managed to avoid such behavior, and I would rather trust the captaincy of the Ship of State to a sincere follower of a religion born of American exceptionalism than to the dissembling acolyte of a Third-World liberation ideology.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
well said.
Here’s a good one. Axelrod gets stuffed at Massa2shits presser.
SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS!
John Edwards, not guilty on one count & the jury
hung on all other charges.
@ Lily:
Chris Matthews gets reall into a hissy fit when
the tingly leg thing is brought up.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I would too as many other people of different religions.
/right now I don’t think him being Mormon is as big of an issue to most religious people today compared with who is in the White House now.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
And that’s the point isn’t it. While I may not agree on a single religious issue with any of my Mormon friends, and I even find some of the missionaries to be a little annoying some times, I have not found a single thing concerning their politics as objectionable. Why, they do not attempt to inflict their religion into the political landscape. Barack Obama’s version of Christianity on the other hand, it’s all about inflicting itself into the political structure of our country.
The worst thing said about Mitt Romney’s politics by these people is that he has too great a respect for our founding documents. Am I wrong is thinking that this is a good thing. We need a President who would choose to respect the U.S. Constitution.
Every time these ass holes brings up one of these gems as a campaign wedge issue, we should do an immediate comparison. Mitt Romney is a Mormon, yes, and 150 years ago some Mormons believed something ambiguous. Barack Obama’s pastor stood up and begged God to damn America. That happened not only in this lifetime, but recently with Obama telling the world that he considered the man to be his most valued spiritual adviser.
RIX wrote:
How much stupid shit has he not allowed politicians to forget. Sauce for the goose…..
huckfunn wrote:
Does Axelrod know anything about the truth???? He is telling people they ‘can’t handle the truth?’
Now that is rich..
@ RIX:
I KNEW HE’D WALK!
huckfunn wrote:
Axlerod is nothing but a corrupt Chicago politician.
He sounded silly trying to deliver the jack Nicholson
line from A Few Good Men.
RIX wrote:
I kinda get the impression that some of these charges were brought because you can’t prosecute someone for being a prick. It’s unfortunate that sometimes there just isn’t any earthly justice -- it mightily tests the “serenity to accept the things I cannot change”, ya know?
@ Lily:
Sorry I was answering you and started to go off on a long winded tangent. Long story with a longer ramble short, my in-laws are salt of the earth people who have always treated me well. They are elderly and frail, I have no desire to upset them, so there things I just let go.
@ MacDuff:
That’s it, being a dirt bag is not criminal.
Lily wrote:
I’m sure the irony is lost on the Walrus… goo goo g’joob..
Flyovercountry wrote:
I invite everyone to read this superb essay over at C2, by Lucius Septimius, whether or not they are registered there.
huckfunn wrote:
There should be a “go get good jobs” parody there if I have time…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I’m more concerned that a president share my basic moral code and be slavishly committed to Constitutional constructionalism than he share my particular religious beliefs.
@ Flyovercountry:
I have one anecdote about the Mormons. During my brief occupation as a storm adjuster I worked Hurricane Andrew for Utah Home Fire. It was my understanding that they were owned by the Mormon Church. The losses from Andrew were so huge that several companies, having exhausted their reserves, went to the Insurance Commissioner’s office and “tossed the key’s on the table” saying “we’re out of money and we’re all done”. When Utah Home Fire ran through their reserves by $180 million, the Mormon Church ponied up and UHF is still in business today. They didn’t have to do it.
@ Flyovercountry:
The media never discussed the history of Islamic agression after 9/11. Instead they told us it was wonderful. The sad part is that Progressives and many Conservatives believe that crap. Now Mormonism is getting a rectal exam that Islam never nor will recieve.
@ Macker:
@ MacDuff:
I think of edwards with this $400 haircuts shaking up while using his dying wife as campaign prop, and hope there is a special place in hell prepared and waiting for that smug arrogant pig!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
There’s a good lad…
citizen_q wrote:
Oh I wouldn’t upset them…but I do believe what think is social justice isn’t the real social justice. I don’t blame you…there is no need to upset them.
/sorry if I came off wrong. With my mom it was a very polite conversation. But then again I had no intention of upsetting her.
Rodan wrote:
Did you see that Romney held a press conference at the empty hulk of the Solyndra plant?
Heh.
@ MacDuff:
My absolute minimum requirement is that the American
President be pro American.
We don’t have that now.
@ Rodan:
I was reading this article at American Thinker:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/mystery_religion_mr_obamas_contradictory_conversions_to_christianity.html
And while I don’t really care so much if converted in 1987 or 1994, or whatever year right around there. What struck me is assuming obama was muslim until converting tobama is admitting to have become an apostate from islam while an adult.
Doesn’t apostasy as an adult, barring insanity (ok, ok, lets not get into islam itelf is insane), warrant death?
citizen_q wrote:
PIMF
Should be:
What struck me is assuming obama was muslim until converting to rev. wright’s perverse version of Christianity obama is admintting to have become an apostate from islam while an adult.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Romney’s running a good race, going into the first turn. Better than I expected, far better. He punches back hard and quick. I hope he’s the kind of man that brings a gun to a knife fight.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
The Romney crew didn’t give any advance info to the press; just told ‘em “follow us”. If the gubmint mob would have known about it ahead of time, they would have shut it down. Sweeeet!
The LDS church has no paid clergy, the money taken in through tithing is held in reserve for those in need. My mother is getting assistance with her bills since my fathers death from the church. All they ask is that she attend church and pay what she can in tithing. They are really saving her home where Social security told her they were so sorry, but she can get screwed for five months out of the year.
@ Lily:
Oh no, I understand. Sorry I am also multi-tasking work……
The social justice appeared to be entwined with their church activities which are very very important to them. It just seemed wrong to insert myself.
@ coldwarrior:
Ranting blonde in San Francisco agrees as well.
@ Macker:
Edwards walked? Ah well. Juries.
Macker -- never did see an email -- can you resend?
The mormon church does not like government aid. They believe that the community and church should support their own.
@ MacDuff:
@ huckfunn:
Note that Romney also put up a video on Foursquare which has him referring to the Solyndra plant as “the Taj Mahal.”
Lest we forget, the Taj Mahal was built as a tomb—it is the tomb Shah Jehan built for his Great Love. In effect, Romney is referring to Solyndra as a tomb built by Shah Obama for his Great Love—”green jobs.” I get the distinct impression that Romney is both educated and witty enough to think of this, and that Barack Obama is not.
@ MacDuff:
gonna be interesting to see how BO performs under pressure…he has more than the office to lose….it would not surprise me at all if he flat out blows the campaign somehow….he chisled his way into the Il senate and surfed the wave into the POTUS….he’s still a campaign neophyte and I doubt he has the quality back up that Romney has….if he runs short of cash, he’s got a huge problem
@ RIX:
I read that and went “Jesus, what is it with you Democrats and Aaron Sorkin writing your dialogue.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
An excellent summation. Our bodies aren’t carnival rides. Then we have this that is evil twisted prezet logic….
Note: The White House got back to me this evening to say the president opposes the bill.
White House deputy press secretary Jamie Smith says in a statement: “The Administration opposes gender discrimination in all forms, but the end result of this legislation would be to subject doctors to criminal prosecution if they fail to determine the motivations behind a very personal and private decision. The government should not intrude in medical decisions or private family matters in this way.”
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/31/white-house-says-obama-opposes-ban-on-sex-selection-abortions/
MacDuff wrote:
Is it too much to hope he instead brings nuclear weapons?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I thought that was a touch of brilliance!
He should visit the former NUMMI plant down in Fremont, in Pete Stark’s district, and take that fantastic young CONSERVATIVE candidate for Stark’s seat with him. I heard the kid speak at the TEA Party rally on April 15th. He was sensational.
@ RIX:
@ Carolina Girl:
I intensely dislike axelrod. Among his many failings, he has this pinched constipated look about him….
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Wow! Interesting detail and fits like a glove. You should pass that on to Steyn and K-hammer. They’d have great funn with it.
@ citizen_q:
bad hair too….he’ll never go anywhere
Macker wrote:
It’s the only way to make sure….
citizen_q wrote:
He always reminds me of a walrus just as Holder reminds me of a ferret.
huckfunn wrote:
Holder looks like the Meerkat from The Lion King. Indeed, frighteningly so.
Valerie Jarrett looks more like a ferret, or perhaps a tailless squirrel—at any rate, a rodent of some sort.
huckfunn wrote:
“The time has come,” the Walrus said,
“To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings.”
citizen_q wrote:
RIX wrote:
That is true of obama on down his admin, the dem leadership, and hangers on.
heysoos wrote:
It will be interesting, he’s never been really tested, has he? Personally, I think his political savvy, and that of his staff, is highly questionable.
MacDuff wrote:
That’s why he uses an Entitleist™ ball on the golf course.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
rolling pretty good there bro
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I need to get my glasses fixed. I thought it was an Elitist ™
@ huckfunn:
Do-a-Poo-Poo!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Indeed. And, in keeping with the golf theme, the most honest campaign slogan would be “Mulligan!” because that’s pretty much the case.
huckfunn wrote:
that too….he has is nap trimmed every 2 weeks by some pot dealer outa Chicago…c’mon bro…talking John Edwards vanity here
heysoos wrote:
A nappy-headed BO? I’m calling Imus.
citizen_q wrote:
For the life of me I don’t know what a lot of people
find so likeable about Obama.
He reminds me of the mose picking kid in grade school
that would narc me out to the nun.
The guy strikes me as a weasel
RIX wrote:
Never understood the attraction either. An Allen West seems much more like a presidental candidate than obama. Not to mention even with the tele-prompter he isn’t that great of a speaker. Also if you looked at his record in the Senate …horrible…how many times did he just vote present? How many times was he late?
@ citizen_q:
Funny, Axelrod and the rest of the asshats following in Obummer’s wake have never been confronted with people protesting THEM (Obummer always has his hand-picked audience) so Axelrod came off as a silly girly-man. “Yeah, well you shut up.”
Nice Dave. Can’t wait till you’re in the unemployment line. Or investigated and arrested. Either way, you’ll be living on the public dime. Just like a good Marxist.
RIX wrote:
Re-post (it never gets old):
The Servant When He Reigneth
—Rudyard Kipling
“For three things the earth is disquieted, and for four which it cannot bear. For a servant when he reigneth, and a fool when he is filled with meat; for an odious woman when she is married, and an handmaid that is heir to her mistress.” –--Prov. 30: 21-22-23.
Three things make earth unquiet
And four she cannot brook
The godly Agur counted them
And put them in a book—
Those Four Tremendous Curses
With which mankind is cursed;
But a Servant when He Reigneth
Old Agur entered first.
An Handmaid that is Mistress
We need not call upon.
A Fool when he is full of Meat
Will fall asleep anon.
An Odious Woman Married
May bear a babe and mend;
But a Servant when He Reigneth
Is Confusion to the end.
His feet are swift to tumult,
His hands are slow to toil,
His ears are deaf to reason,
His lips are loud in broil.
He knows no use for power
Except to show his might.
He gives no heed to judgment
Unless it prove him right.
Because he served a master
Before his Kingship came,
And hid in all disaster
Behind his master’s name,
So, when his Folly opens
The unnecessary hells,
A Servant when He Reigneth
Throws the blame on some one else.
His vows are lightly spoken,
His faith is hard to bind,
His trust is easy broken,
He fears his fellow-kind.
The nearest mob will move him
To break the pledge he gave—
Oh, a Servant when he Reigneth
Is more than ever slave!
Oh, and Axelrod? “You can’t handle the truth.”
I’ve heard your boss’s speeches. Neither can he.
Carolina Girl wrote:
They tend to run from the truth like vampires from Holy Water.
@ Carolina Girl:
@ Lily:
They are as acquainted with the truth as the occu-pests are with soap.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Ann Barnhardt, who is a devout Catholic, tears into the Church for its liberalism at the cost of the faith.
The Bishops are Being Played. Like Cheap Fiddles.
Posted by Ann Barnhardt -- May 23, AD 2012 7:27 PM MST
I do not understand how it is that this isn’t glaringly, beat-you-over-the-head obvious, but whatever. I’ll explain it. Listen up. Especially if you have a hat shaped like the blade of a posthole digger in your wardrobe, and people actually call you “Excellency.”
Withdrawing health insurance (like Franciscan University at Steubenville, Ohio), shutting down schools, closing adoption agencies, soup kitchens or ANYTHING ELSE in “protest” of ObamaCare and the HHS “mandates” is EXACTLY, PRECISELY, TOTALLY and COMPLETELY what the Obama regime wants.
Further, the reason why the “press” has OBVIOUSLY been given the order to keep all of this quiet and to not report in any way on the lawsuits filed by the dozens of various Catholic organizations this week against the Obama regime -- the largest religious legal action ever taken against the U.S. government by a long shot -- is obvious.
The Obama regime is sitting back and watching all of you cowardly fools fold your own tents. None of the stupid bread-and-circus addicted crowd knows anything about any of this. You have to break out of your narcissistic little world and understand that even though these things are earth-shattering to you, uh, most people in this country don’t even know that their “government” has declared war on the Church.
So, in a few months, after you all have played right into their hands and shut down your facilities, hospitals, schools and services, congratulating yourselves on your “brave protest”, the Obama regime is going to make a ginormous propaganda offensive telling all of the stupid TV-addled idiots that the Catholic Church doesn’t give a crap about “the people” because they have shut down their hospitals, schools, their soup kitchens, their adoption agencies and won’t even provide health insurance plans to the poor, poor youths attending their universities. The Catholic Church hates “the people”, hates charity, hates sick people, hates women, hates children, hates poor people and is hoarding all of its money.
Oh, but the Obama regime LOVES you. The Obama regime will provide you and anyone else who joins their Free Shit Army with all of the “free healthcare”, “free education”, “free food” and free unicorn farts they could ever want or need.
Listen, you fools. YOU DON’T SHUT ANYTHING DOWN. You keep going exactly as you have been, and you force those dirty rotten SOBs to literally storm your hospitals and shut YOU down at gunpoint. And I’m not kidding. Make them physically shut down your hospital by dragging you out at gunpoint. Make them physically shut down your schools. Make them shut down your university by force because you won’t cover abortions in your student health plan. Make them physically shut down your soup kitchens. Make them shut down your adoption agencies because you won’t hand a baby boy over to two men who like to jam various and sundry body parts up each others’ rectums.
In other words, STAND AND FIGHT.
The only proper course of action is total non-compliance with these totalitarian edicts of the regime, and FORCING THEIR HAND.
Anything less than that, and you LOSE. MEN fight wars. If you refuse to do your duty and act like MEN, then the war is already lost. And make no mistake, cowardice is a grave sin, and you will answer for it.
Every bishop is given a crosier upon his ordination to the episcopacy. A crosier is a shepherd’s staff. It is a six to seven foot long staff that a shepherd uses to beat the crap out of wolves. That’s your job. Beating the crap out of the wolves -- not killing all of the sheep yourself so that there is nothing left for the wolves to eat.
MAN UP!!!! FIGHT, YOU FOOLS!!!
Carolina Girl wrote:
Did he sound like a buffoon, or what?
RIX wrote:
For starters the President should at least be an American…
RIX wrote:
He sounded like a sore loserman.
yenta-fada wrote:
Did I mention here the sermonette I heard two weeks ago at a Reform “temple” that praised Obama for his support of same-sex marriage? The “rabbi” bragged about how her confirmation classes no longer needed to be prompted to see David and Jonathan as gay lovers, as they used to when she started teaching them some thirteen years ago, and that in the interest of “preserving the timeless values of the Torah” it is incumbent upon us to tear up and throw away the parts we don’t like.
Reform “Judaism”: the Democratic Party, with holidays.
huckfunn wrote:
The gander oft times is discomfited when slathered in the sauce prepared for the goose.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Now the Obama Campaign will demand that Romney
publically rebuke you!
@ huckfunn:
.
He made such a big deal out of the fact that Romney
may not carry Massachusetts. It’s a Blue state, but
hey the squaw Warren is going to lose to a Republican!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
No, I had not seen that. The same mentality exists in Toronto, of course. We have some of the best lesbian rabbis trained in the U.S. /
I do believe we are coming to the tipping point, economically, socially, politically. We won’t like it, but we won’t be surprised and confused to watch the bugs hit the windshields.
yenta-fada wrote:
‘Tis a privilege indeed to labia in the vineyards of the Almighty…
Oh, look. Media moguls earn even more than Wall Street honchos.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-27/wall-street-titans-outearned-by-media-czars.html
@ yenta-fada:
I think they are going to fight…I had no idea they are shutting anything down.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Hah. (and I thought you were going to talk about lesbian rabbits) lol
Lily wrote:
The media doesn’t print most of the goings on in the Zero administration. Also, as you know, a few small things are incremental like stealth jihad. Unless you are looking for it, you don’t see the larger agenda in some local news report.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I am not that observant or knowledgeable, but that is not the Judaism I was brought up with.
Is that really Reform Judiasm? I thought the Reform Rabbi I met in Dallas who stumbled over a simple barucha written in phonetic English was an aberration, but now I don’t know.
as for me, I don’t give a rats ass where BO was born or if he’s Muslim…I don’t give a rats ass regarding Mormans, god, faith or any of that stuff…I only care about performance in office…if a guy has a sharp mind, is honest, cares about ALL Americans, takes no shit and don’t pass the buck, stands up in a fight, burns a little weed now and then and digs Skip James, I’d vote for him….ideally when he is innaugerated, he’ll have longish messy hair, cargos and wearing a ‘Kieth Richards For President’ teeshirt, bust a few moves at the ball and consume cheap vodka and Red Stripe before punching out Iran the next day…in other words, we need a Hells Angel for president
Lily wrote:
A small example from Bloomberg News. Feds are ‘protecting people’ by shutting down bus companies across the U.S. You can read this both ways. Protect or CONTROL.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/chinatown-bus-companies-shut-down-in-federal-safety-sweep.html
@ yenta-fada:
Then you can ‘bing’ EPA news and get more control.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/30/hill-lawmakers-from-nebraska-question-epa-aerial-livestock-surveillance/
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/05/obama_refuses_to_apologize_for_polish_death_camp_remark.html#ixzz1wUNkHDWX
citizen_q wrote:
The Reform “temple” I visited two weeks ago for my nephew’s bar mitzvah was an atrocity on so many levels. Where to begin?
Shall we start with the fact that with 2000 families as members, it gets barely 40 people for a service even with a couple of special events? Not surprising, I suppose, when you consider that the services are to sing praises of a God that they don’t believe in, in honor of a Sabbath they don’t observe, mitzvahs they reject, and in a language they have not been taught to read, let alone understand.
The prayers have been gutted; the remnants—the twisted scraps that someone who attended Hebrew school fifty years ago might dimly remember—are repeated endlessly to fill the void.
Music, which is not customarily played in observant Jewish houses of worship on the Sabbath, fills the remainder of the void.
It is not possible to take a shomer-Shabbos piss in the synagogue, since every toilet is controlled by an electric eye.
There was avodah zarah—idolatry—on the doors of the Ark, since it was adorned with “portraits” of several prophets.
There were several display cases in the various vestibules, containing artifacts of Jewish observance which had clearly been donated when somebody’s parents or grandparents died; “What the hell are we gonna do with Zayde’s menorah? Let’s donate it to the temple!”
Etc.
@ Lily:
hardly a big deal…everyone knows what he meant don’t they?…people get so pissy over the least thing
@ yenta-fada:
No the media doesn’t report anything that will make bho look bad.
From what I understand the Church will be issuing a statemant that will go to every single Catholic church in the U.S. in June.
heysoos wrote:
I loved the comments which attended the Frank Marshall Davis porno shots of Barack Obama’s mommy around the time of the birth certificate brouhaha (BTW, another Big First for BHO; First President to have his Mother’s Luminous Ass Disseminated Over the Internet as Soft-Core Porn); “We may not have Obama’s birth certificate, but at least we can see where he was born!”
heysoos wrote:
Maybe not to you..but this is making huge head-lines in Europe ..it’s a big deal.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Wow, that is tragic. It must have been very difficult for you.
RIX wrote:
They’ll never take me alive…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
‘who’s yer daddy?…c’mon, who’s yer daddy?’
citizen_q wrote:
I knew what I’d be dealing with. My sister-in-law loves to offer pork and shellfish to anyone who is the least bit observant. It’s sad, but there it is. My nephew, after completing the (very) little that was required of him for this “bar mitzvah”—bar mitzvah being, traditionally, a celebration of the fact that one is old enough to be personally responsible for performing the Divine commandments—freely expressed relief that, having sleepwalked his way through this event, he didn’t have to do anything Jewish ever again.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That’s just sad. They take the soul out of religion. I’m no angel, nor was I raised with religion. However, I had Orthodox grandparents on both sides and can recogize their values by how they lived. They didn’t even speak English, and yet something was communicated.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Now that is sad.
@ Lily:
maybe so…Europe has nothing else to ponder these days besides semantic insultery…fuck them
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
That’s the spirit!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Yikes.
Seems all they need to make the travesty complete is to direct the prayers off a bit from the ark… maybe a few degrees to the right, toward the Black Stone
heysoos wrote:
Many Polish people died in the NAZI death camps…it is a slap in their face and Poland is an allie.
Lily wrote:
heysoos wrote:
Zimriel wrote:
With a rabbi praising Obama for his stance on same-sex marriage, they’re already in Ba’al country.
I can’t remember which one it was, but after Planned
Parenthood got outed for condoning sex based abortions,
a Dem comngresswoman said, “I do’t support sex based
abortions based on gender.”
@ yenta-fada:
I gets confused. arrgh. I meant to say to ‘heysoos’ that he is disrespectful of many things. It is ugly.
RIX wrote:
Yogi Berra is still alive and transgendered?
@ Lily:
so he misspoke…only some insecure tribe would be so easily insulted…don’t reduce us all to prickly hacks that purposely seem to miss the point
RIX wrote:
Barbara Lee (Oakland, IIRC).
Maybe she supports sex-based abortions based on a hidden, uh, gender?
RIX wrote:
Spirit is about all I’ve got now days; they’ve taken and taxed everything else…
heysoos wrote:
The Smartass Man in the Room is too fucking Smartass to bother to get his facts straight, and he pisses on every single one of our allies as he does so—even as he grovels to our enemies.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I have read enough Baruch Halpern (and enough 1-2 Samuel) to understand that David was not entirely guarded from sin. But homosexuality was not amongst the man’s misdeeds. Some could argue that it would have been better for David’s soul if he hadn’t such an eye for the ladies.
In Early Iron Age warrior-culture, the bonds between men were… strong. The Greeks were at the same time retelling the story of Achilles and Patroclus.
Reducing that bond of male friendship to ghey pr0n shows the mark of a juvenile and disgusting mind.
@ heysoos:
So you are calling the country of Poland a tribe?
I do have one srs question though.
The original Ark is described (in detail) in the Torah. It had cherubim on it.
Wouldn’t they have been likenesses of mythological beasts?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
They don’t even know that they have at least a couple of billion enemies. I sincerely hope they don’t have to find out the hard way. The Western world has been working up “Jewish bankers” to blame for the bad economy. You would gag at some of the comments on financial sites. That’s true in Europe, North America, South America, and ALL of the Muslim world.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That’s it, it was Barbara Lee. Not to be confused
with the other Mensa member Sheila Jackson Lee.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
BO is not that impressive on any level…but i cannot believe anybody would try to make pizza pie out of this horseshit…he’s vulnerable elsewhere…but I highly doubt his intention was to trash Poles and Jews…it’s just picking around the edges
See ya later.
heysoos wrote:
You are acting like a gas bag. Just dissing everything. It’s old. (note bene, I did NOT call you a gas bag. I said you were acting like one)
@ Lily:
all humans are tribal to some extent, especially when it comes to politics…I have to doubt that most Poles give a shit about what BO says…he’s a walking gaffe, might as well live with it
@ heysoos:
in standard diplomacy, when a leader drops a bomb of a mistake like that there is normally a very rapid and public apology and then all is forgotten. that is how its handled.
given what 0 has done to our allies, and the fact that there was a refusal to apologize shows me a deep rooted problem in this administration.
‘mis speak’ happens, it sure does. on a subject like this? there is really no excuse, it isnt like he said its great to be in warsaw when he was actually in gdansk. the refusal to apologize further illustrates the narcissism in this mans psychological makeup.
RIX wrote:
Oh, I do have to pipe in though, because this is delicious. Close to Jackson-Lee’s district is the NASA district, TX-22. Guess whom that district’s Democrats voted for. (Twice in a row.)
Zimriel wrote:
It is, as far as I am concerned, entirely possible that there was a homosexual bond between David and Jonathan. For one thing, there is Saul’s attack on Jonathan (hurling a spear at him) moments after he rebukes him for his affection for David; the kind of self-contradictory behavior you might expect from a father worried about his son’s proclivities.
But…the point is that whatever that bond may have consisted of, David and Jonathan both had wives and families (just as Oscar Wilde did!); in other words, the message is not that D & J were getting it on, but that even if they were, they kept it on the downlow while fulfilling their obligations to God, tribe and family to be family men. It is for that reason that reducing their relationship to same-sex bouncy-bouncy is an obscenity.
The Torah does not condemn “homosexuality”—the concept did not exist several thousand years ago. It condemns conduct—and in Torah jurisprudence, you can’t be condemned for conduct rendering you liable for a capital crime without at least two kosher witnesses to the act. Therefore, if you are capable of discretion (so that society is not threatened) you can go as far as you like—in private.
@ yenta-fada:
gas bag?…someone who does not agree with you?…I just call it like I see it, like you….maybe you’re the gasbag?
Zimriel wrote:
I do believe the angels wings are described in detail….here is a site….that shows what the Ark may have looked according to the description …scroll down..
http://lesmess.2itb.com/catalog.html
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
a day where i dont learn something is like a day without sunshine
heysoos wrote:
Why do you doubt this? He’s pissed on the Jews numerous times, and he’s fucked the Poles over already at least once over missile placements. Why would this not be intentional? Is it better that he should be a graceless boor rather than a blundering fool?
More to the point, he and/or his handlers—whose job it is to see that he does not live down to his natural base instincts of rudeness, crudeness, stupidity, and ill-informed churlishness—should have caught this crass, bloviating error before this unthinking, uneducated, over-credentialed crapweasel read his insult off his Teleprompter.
@ heysoos:
Apathy like your is ONE of the reasons this country is in the condition it is.
heysoos wrote:
No, you disagree with everyone. Why do you think more than one person has noticed this? I may well be a gas bag, I dunno. However, I respect every poster here until they prove themself not worthy of respect.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That is just exeedingly rude.
@ coldwarrior:
shit happens…and I really don’t care what the Poles think because I do not believe it was an insult…I care about BO’s performance here, in America…I don’t think he intentionally insulted anyone…he may be an idiot, but he’s trying to say the right thing to get himself re-elected…I think the problem with these constant gaffes or whatever, is his extreme aloofness and a burning passion to not have to lead…I’m hardly an Obama fan, but I try to be fair
Lily wrote:
That’s so interesting. Bookmarked for later. Thanks {{Lily}}
NoThreat2U wrote:
Helloooooo!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
When you speak poetry about Ozero, you don’t even need a computer insult generator. lol
@ heysoos:
the reason that countries have diplomats and embassies and the like is so that ambiguity is kept to a minimum and intent and meaning are understood fully.
when these mechanism break down, or are not used to correct a large error such as this, there is a failure in communication. one side then must assume that the other side either meant what he said, or that he is too much of a narcissists to admit the error.
either way, this is a negative and does not reflect well on us.
sorry, that is how it works.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I think it was unintentional because I believe he wants the presidency for 4 more years and trashing Poland is not a part of that recipe…I think he is wrong, and I think he is not so bright, but on this speech I give him a pass…I do not know what he thinks and I may be wrong, but I see him as a very mixed up guy that just can’t make it up as he goes along very well
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/03/15/an-updated-list-obamas-top-ten-insults-against-great-britain-2012-edition/
Britain
Israel
That’s just two allies. After a while it isn’t semantics, it’s a pattern.
@ yenta-fada:
Welcome {{yenta}}!
@ yenta-fada:
Hellllloooooooooooo!
@ coldwarrior:
I never argued otherwise…if he were a cautious leader he would evaluate his speeches with more enthusiasm…he doesn’t, he blurts…but the deathcamp thing is gonna go nowhere…attack him on the economy, relentlessly, forget this fringe crap where he falls over his own tongue
@ heysoos:
He was reading from a tele-prompter and after the gaffe should have immediately corrected his statement and apologized. PDQ.
heysoos wrote:
The Smartass Guy in the Room is “not so bright?” “Mixed up?” Rank heresy, I tell you!
You have to understand something; for this arrogant, entitled jackass there has never been any consequence whatever for his ignorance, insularity, stupidity, whatever. He has always, until now, failed upwards. He does not realize that there are real-world consequences to pissing into the mouths of America’s allies—in part because he doesn’t give a shit about what happens to America.
Yes, he wants another four years to party on the public dime. But he has no clue whatever to the notion that his fatmouthing might harm him in this regard. It never has before—and if it looked like it was going to, one of those white folks he hates deeply in his heart came in and covered for him so that he could continue to fail upwards. He has no clue what insulting Poland will do to him—even (especially) in the Greater Chicagoland Area of his base, because he assumes that things will be taken care of for him. They always have been for this coddled little brat.
Choom and the Gang think that they are entitled to a lock on another four years ripping off the nation; they probably have told themselves that they can steal enough votes, especially with the Meerkat running DoJ, that they needn’t worry. It is our job to show them how very, very, very wrong they are. We have to vote in such great numbers that they can’t steal their way to victory.
@ NoThreat2U:
@ yenta-fada:
I’m with you two. I know I don’t post/comment much but I read here alot and see it constantly.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I can’t heeeeeeeeaaaaaar you!
@ heysoos:
hit him wherever and whenever he is vulnerable…every day he makes more ammo for the right.
romney is doing a fine job sticking to the economy, the other outlets are firing at will. i quite this set up
@ Mars:
yoiks!
Kirly wrote:
I love it when you post. I was describing the border situation in Arizona (the way you talk about it) to a Liberal. They didn’t get it. sigh.
@ Lily:
he didn’t…so what?…do you think his mob will desert him for it?…what’s the point of dwelling on this shit when it will not sway voters?…the economy is the fight, his misspeak about Poland means nothing to some broke down, outa work guy in Akron…if it feels good to bitch about every breath BO takes fine…but it does not interest me…he has a job to do here and he’s failing, that’s where you beat him at the polls
@ yenta-fada:
Can you hear me noooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
later, dinner calls.
heysoos wrote:
There are, in Cook County, more Poles than there are in Warsaw.
If you don’t think that the Light Worker’s insult to Poland does not resonate with them, you are not aware of how politics work.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Why, yes, I think so. I re-adjusted the string on my tin can. Fix it at your end.
@ coldwarrior:
yes, so far so good…it’s imperative Romney take the economic high road…these fringe issues may be interesting but the economy is the target
heysoos wrote:
well, we arent here to interest you. so if a topic doesn’t interest you, dont comment. people do that all the time. it works great.
and dont be sure that guy in akron doesnt care about this, he is probably 2d generation polish…or at least a ukie…
perogies all round!
@ yenta-fada:
lol
Tin cans an string…it’s all we need to keep in tough
@ heysoos:
Poland is an allie to the United
States…I do not see the American media basing him on this, but our ALLIE POLAND takes this very personal as well they should, they suffered terribly under the tyranny of the NAZI’S. The RNC isn’t bringing this up, Mitt Romney isn’t bringing this up..but the pundits and blogs and other outlets are, his refusal to apologize to Poland yet he apologizes freely to our enemies is a BIG DEAL.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
yeah, he lost the Hamtramck vote too
heysoos wrote:
precisely!
we have to have something to do as well. if all we did was talk about the economy all day it would be pretty boring, wouldnt it?
@ Lily:
and some of my best friends are Poles…you are missing my point nicely…BO said a stupid thing, BO doesn’t think it was stupid and won’t apologize…wtf does any of that have to do with defeating him in the fall?…call me when the Polish vote defeats BO
heysoos wrote:
It is my understanding that Hamtramck is now largely Muslim, so he’ll probably take that.
But if you don’t think that Fatmouth Barry has Pole-arized a segment of his support, you’re wrong.
@ coldwarrior:
why do you have your hands down your pant?….
jus askin
heysoos wrote:
An arrogant, ungracious candidate is rarely a successful candidate.
@ heysoos:
No I am not missing your point at all. You are missing my point that you don’t insult another country who is an allie.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I don’t know shit, except this….Ham no longer exists, in practical terms
heysoos wrote:
Somebody better tell my local supermarket.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
let’s hope…I have a hunch that BO is gonna zag when he shoulda zigged
@ Lily:
well he did…now what?
@ heysoos:
Apologize and PDQ.
heysoos wrote:
what makes you think i am wearing pants?
coldwarrior wrote:
lets see here…I have alot of windows open…hold on…are you Honey Drip?…wait…what was the question?
Have a good evening all.
Lily wrote:
If you insist. I did have other plans.
heysoos wrote:
What the hell are you smoking tonight?
This guy has been the most deliberate politician in my lifetime to try and make hay from off the cuff references, winks, and nods.
Poland has been a staunch ally of our country. They were ferociously instrumental in helping bring down the Iron Curtain. Combine that with the comment he made, and in the context of which he was referring to, this guy makes us look bad.
If he made a gaff, fine. Apologize for it. He sure as hell had no problem apologizing for us seeking retribution after 911, or making sure we knew the cops acted stupidly at a friend’s residence.
He just spit in the face of our ally.