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Who’s Up For Some Media Bias?

by Flyovercountry ( 197 Comments › )
Filed under Communism, Fascism, Media, Progressives at May 31st, 2012 - 3:00 pm

Let’s start off with this doozy from my favorite, MSNBC. In this clip we get a dose of a little side show I like to call, “exactly how crazy are those Mormons any how?” The message here seems to be that there is a rumor of some disavowed prophecy in which apparently, way back in the 1860′s, it was foretold that a Mormon who ran for President would actually agree that our Constitution was a good thing. Wait for this little tidbit, Mitt Romney has actually praised our founding documents, gasp! Putting aside the fact the the Mormons themselves haven’t been talking about this at all since the 1860′s, and that Mitt Romney has pretty much kept on message about real issues, and further has stayed completely away from anything even remotely dealing with religious issues personally, Some reporter at MSNBC actually took the time and effort to dig this up, dust it off, and is attempting to make it a campaign issue. Is there anyone honest at MSMBC?

CNN has been touting themselves as the middle ground between MSNBC, clearly on the left, and Fox, criminally on the right for the better part of a year now. How are they doing? Well, a year and a half ago, I put up a post in which I called Wolf Blitzer the real life version of Ron Burgundy. Have they shown improvement? The short answer is no. Watch this clip of Soledad O’Brien trying her best to sucker John Sununu into a fight over the birther nonsense. O’Brien asks the question, and Sununu states plainly that neither he, nor, more importantly Mitt Romney subscribe to the whole thing. Undaunted, Soledad presses on with the, “well Donald Trump believes it,” ploy. Sununu swats that aside, and points out that the subject only comes up now because CNN is asking to talk about it. Missing the irony, O’Brien pushes onward with the ridiculous line of questioning. Three minutes and twenty – six seconds of air time is wasted on getting Sununu to say exactly what he said in the first ten seconds, which is, Obama was born in Hawaii.

Special note on this one. As it turns out, the entire Birth Place of Obama crap was actually started by Hillary Clinton’s team and the original court case was filed by long time Clinton operative Philip Berg. The rumor as it turns out was started by Barack Obama himself in 1995 when he was hawking his first book. His publisher felt that he would sell more copies of the literary masterpiece if he claimed to be a foreigner. As it turns out, it does not mean that he is ineligible to be President, only that his ability to lie sinks to the level of a Kennedy or a Clinton.

Get used to this level of dishonest reporting my friends, it is going to be a long 5 months filled with a compliant pussy cat media hell bent on getting Barack Obama reelected. Crazy Mitt the Mormon stories will abound. All conservatives are fringe racist homophobic nut jobs stories will be mega blasted across the air waves and presented as the only thing anyone should really be afraid of at all. meanwhile, earlier this week, our President just awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to an avowed Communist, Deloris Huerta. Noting that Barack Obama is a flat out Marxist will be duly reported as racism, completely ignoring the small fact that it is true.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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197 Responses to “Who’s Up For Some Media Bias?”
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  1. 1 | May 31, 2012 3:04 pm

    We CAN, of course, vote Обама’s Filthy Communist Ass OUT in November, just on his policies alone. BUT we have to work hard to do it.


  2. Lily
    2 | May 31, 2012 3:19 pm

    I honestly could care less that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Personally he way better than a damn communist who now resides in the White House.
    I don’t think religious people of other denominations are going to care that he is a Mormon. Because right now bho is attacking our religious freedoms and that says a lot.


  3. Mars
    3 | May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

    Friends of mine in Utah have told me the press have been running wild there for over a year. There’s also a bunch more reality shows in the works showing the spinoff cults (the ones who still accept polygamy) planning to run this summer.

    I’ve been in my LDS churches on and off for the last 30 years and I’ve never heard a damn thing about this prophecy. They are really reaching.


  4. Mars
    4 | May 31, 2012 3:27 pm

    Here’s a little treat for those who say allowing gay marriage will have no effect on government forcing churches to violate their own beliefs.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ontario-officials-may-force-catholic-schools-to-accept-gay-straight-alliances/


  5. Lily
    5 | May 31, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ Mars:

    If he were Catholic they would bring up the Crusades.
    I would much prefer a Morman in the White House than a man that okays live-birth abortions. If they want to get that nit-picky..they better be prepared for the back-lash of Black Liberatian Theology…yet in 2008 that didn’t get any traction. Let the RNC and Romney stay above this like you said Mars and let the blogs, books and pundits get dirty with this.


  6. 6 | May 31, 2012 3:33 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Here’s a little treat for those who say allowing gay marriage will have no effect on government forcing churches to violate their own beliefs.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ontario-officials-may-force-catholic-schools-to-accept-gay-straight-alliances/

    I’m awaiting a spate of “Pedophile Priest” stories, even if there’s no new incidents or information, as a way to wage PR war on the Catholics.


  7. Mars
    7 | May 31, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Already happening in MT, they’ve started bringing up old cases for no apparent reason.


  8. Lily
    8 | May 31, 2012 3:36 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Here’s a little treat for those who say allowing gay marriage will have no effect on government forcing churches to violate their own beliefs.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ontario-officials-may-force-catholic-schools-to-accept-gay-straight-alliances/

    Anyone with half a brain should know this is the real reason for this push.

    Is This the Civil War Obama’s Looking For? Bishops Prep Catholics for Mass Defiance

    The U.S. Catholic Bishops are preparing Catholics for what some are saying may be the largest wave of civil disobedience since the Civil Rights Movement.
    The Catholic Church last week sued the Obama Administration over President Obama’s decree that all employers must pay for health insurance that covers abortions, sterilizations and contraceptives, all of which violate Catholic moral teachings. The pope himself has spoken on the issue and pointed out the threat posed by Obama’s attempt to force Catholics to cooperate in “intrinsically evil practices.”

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/5404/is-this-the-civil-war-obamas-looking-for-bishops-prep-catholics-for-mass-defiance/#ixzz1wTgCtfKY


  9. 9 | May 31, 2012 3:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Mars:

    If he were Catholic they would bring up the Crusades.
    I would much prefer a Morman in the White House than a man that okays live-birth abortions. If they want to get that nit-picky..they better be prepared for the back-lash of Black Liberatian Theology…yet in 2008 that didn’t get any traction. Let the RNC and Romney stay above this like you said Mars and let the blogs, books and pundits get dirty with this.

    Actually, I’m game for a new round of modern Crusades, myself. We have some unfinished business. Picture it; a “Warrior Pope” in a Situation Room deep beneath the Vatican, directing Papal Black Ops throughout the Middle East. I dig the concept!


  10. Lily
    10 | May 31, 2012 3:39 pm

    @ Mars:

    The Catholic Church will NOT take this laying down. They are already basically fixing to wage war with bho. I have never seen the Catholic Church this riled up ….ever in my lifetime.


  11. Mars
    11 | May 31, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    That would be nice. I think there might be a couple fiction books with a concept like that.


  12. Lily
    12 | May 31, 2012 3:42 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I think this pope knows exactly what Islam is all about. Right now the Catholic Church is cleaning house of all the liberal-leftist nonsense that has creeped into the Church.
    /but the image you have is very interesting to say the least! ;)


  13. RIX
    13 | May 31, 2012 3:43 pm

    Now that CNN is getting all analytical about some dated
    Morman mythology, I am sure that they will now turn
    their sights on Obama.
    They will soon analyze the Koranic Studies that was part
    of Barry’s education in Jakarta.
    And you just know that they will completey analyze Black
    Liberation theology & the all of the racism, anti-semitism
    & anti-Americanism that Barack sat & listened to for twenty
    years , giving in the very least tacit approval.
    CNN will tee that up right away./


  14. 14 | May 31, 2012 3:44 pm

    Dear CNN:

    If you want to know why your ratings suck so badly they affect the tides, please see clip of that fucking looney tune Soledad O’Brien, above.


  15. 15 | May 31, 2012 3:45 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Mars:

    The Catholic Church will NOT take this laying down. They are already basically fixing to wage war with bho. I have never seen the Catholic Church this riled up ….ever in my lifetime.

    Oddly, this could serve to bring a lot of people back to the Church. The administration has chosen to make The Church the focus of their attack and are making Catholics the point of the spear.


  16. Lily
    16 | May 31, 2012 3:47 pm

    @ RIX:

    Yep when hell freezes over.
    /how this man got away with the BLT crap is beyond belief. Yet they want to go down this road on Mitt’s religion…seems like a bad move
    but hey…like everyone says, ‘when your enemy is shooting himself in the foot…just step out of the way.’


  17. citizen_q
    17 | May 31, 2012 3:48 pm

    @ Lily:
    Have you heard if they are dropping support for so called social justice?

    I am curious. My in-laws are devout Catholics, and they have spoken of social justice in relation to their spirituality (believe it not in a conversation with one of their muslim sons in-law).


  18. citizen_q
    18 | May 31, 2012 3:50 pm

    @ RIX:
    That might be fair and balanced…….ooops that’s the dreaded FOX slogan! /


  19. Lily
    19 | May 31, 2012 3:50 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Mars:

    The Catholic Church will NOT take this laying down. They are already basically fixing to wage war with bho. I have never seen the Catholic Church this riled up ….ever in my lifetime.

    Oddly, this could serve to bring a lot of people back to the Church. The administration has chosen to make The Church the focus of their attack and are making Catholics the point of the spear.

    Indeed. They really stepped into this big time. He really has a hate on the Catholic Church and Jewish people. Makes you think doesn’t it.
    The Catholic Church knows what he is all about. HE IS A LIAR..DON’T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS!


  20. 20 | May 31, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ RIX:

    Holding breath, we should be witnessing these reports any time now, ready 3…2…1…?


  21. Lily
    21 | May 31, 2012 3:54 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Have you heard if they are dropping support for so called social justice?

    I am curious. My in-laws are devout Catholics, and they have spoken of social justice in relation to their spirituality (believe it not in a conversation with one of their muslim sons in-law).

    They are weaning this out. Mainly because they don’t understand what excatly social justice is. Real social justice has killed millions and million of innocent people. The concept with the Catholic Church isn’t the same. But as to this confusion they are weeding this type of stuff out and getting back to basic’s. Sending priests to learn Latin again and having Latin masses. I have seen A LOT of change in the Church within the past couple of years.


  22. Lily
    22 | May 31, 2012 3:58 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Have you heard if they are dropping support for so called social justice?

    I am curious. My in-laws are devout Catholics, and they have spoken of social justice in relation to their spirituality (believe it not in a conversation with one of their muslim sons in-law).

    I would also bet if you asked your in-laws to define “social justice” they would not be able to give you the correct meaning of it. Because my mother also ‘believed’ in social justice too…I asked her to ‘define’ it and she couldn’t. I told her to be aware of anything with “social________ (anything). Now whether she took this to heart I’ll know the next time I see her.


  23. RIX
    23 | May 31, 2012 3:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Yep when hell freezes over.
    /how this man got away with the BLT crap is beyond belief. Yet they want to go down this road on Mitt’s religion…seems like a bad move
    but hey…like everyone says, ‘when your enemy is shooting himself in the foot…just step out of the way.’

    Obama got a pass becuse of his race & silly geese in the
    media getting thrills up their legs.


  24. Lily
    24 | May 31, 2012 4:07 pm

    @ RIX:

    I would question any so-called man who got thrills up their legs for another man. I would say “Really? You want to say that????”


  25. RIX
    25 | May 31, 2012 4:08 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:
    <

    blockquote>@ RIX:
    Holding breath, we should be witnessing these reports any time now, ready 3…2…1…?

    CNN is completely fair./


  26. RIX
    26 | May 31, 2012 4:09 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I would question any so-called man who got thrills up their legs for another man. I would say “Really? You want to say that????”

    I’m guessing that they like show tunes. Fabulous!


  27. Lily
    27 | May 31, 2012 4:12 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Holding breath, we should be witnessing these reports any time now, ready 3…2…1…?

    CNN is completely fair./

    The only news station I see on the TV’s anywhere around here in doc’s offices or any public places around here is only Fox. Not to mention my oldest son says the other news stations are nothing but an extenstion of obama’s campagin.


  28. Lily
    28 | May 31, 2012 4:13 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I would question any so-called man who got thrills up their legs for another man. I would say “Really? You want to say that????”

    I’m guessing that they like show tunes. Fabulous!

    Throws up arms….”Lets go shopping girl!!!”.


  29. buzzsawmonkey
    29 | May 31, 2012 4:15 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I honestly could care less that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Personally he way better than a damn communist who now resides in the White House.
    I don’t think religious people of other denominations are going to care that he is a Mormon. Because right now bho is attacking our religious freedoms and that says a lot.

    As I have said before, Mormonism—whatever else it may be—is a homegrown American-exceptionalist religion.

    Just as The Wonderful Wizard of Oz and its related books are an attempt by the American L. Frank Baum to create American rather than European fairy tales, Mormonism—born during that time of religious and utopian ferment in the early 19th century—is an effort to create a distinctly American Christianity.

    I know that many Christians are uncomfortable with, and/or disagree with, Mormonism on these grounds. But every religion is odd to those who do not follow it; four hundred years ago, in Europe, people massacred each other in droves over such questions. Here in the US, we have—for the most part—managed to avoid such behavior, and I would rather trust the captaincy of the Ship of State to a sincere follower of a religion born of American exceptionalism than to the dissembling acolyte of a Third-World liberation ideology.


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | May 31, 2012 4:18 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    well said.


  31. huckfunn
    31 | May 31, 2012 4:21 pm

    Here’s a good one. Axelrod gets stuffed at Massa2shits presser.
    SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS!


  32. RIX
    32 | May 31, 2012 4:27 pm

    John Edwards, not guilty on one count & the jury
    hung on all other charges.


  33. RIX
    33 | May 31, 2012 4:29 pm

    @ Lily:
    Chris Matthews gets reall into a hissy fit when
    the tingly leg thing is brought up.


  34. Lily
    34 | May 31, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I would too as many other people of different religions.
    /right now I don’t think him being Mormon is as big of an issue to most religious people today compared with who is in the White House now.


  35. 35 | May 31, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    And that’s the point isn’t it. While I may not agree on a single religious issue with any of my Mormon friends, and I even find some of the missionaries to be a little annoying some times, I have not found a single thing concerning their politics as objectionable. Why, they do not attempt to inflict their religion into the political landscape. Barack Obama’s version of Christianity on the other hand, it’s all about inflicting itself into the political structure of our country.

    The worst thing said about Mitt Romney’s politics by these people is that he has too great a respect for our founding documents. Am I wrong is thinking that this is a good thing. We need a President who would choose to respect the U.S. Constitution.

    Every time these ass holes brings up one of these gems as a campaign wedge issue, we should do an immediate comparison. Mitt Romney is a Mormon, yes, and 150 years ago some Mormons believed something ambiguous. Barack Obama’s pastor stood up and begged God to damn America. That happened not only in this lifetime, but recently with Obama telling the world that he considered the man to be his most valued spiritual adviser.


  36. 36 | May 31, 2012 4:35 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chris Matthews gets reall into a hissy fit when
    the tingly leg thing is brought up.

    How much stupid shit has he not allowed politicians to forget. Sauce for the goose…..


  37. Lily
    37 | May 31, 2012 4:37 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Here’s a good one. Axelrod gets stuffed at Massa2shits presser.
    SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS!

    Does Axelrod know anything about the truth???? He is telling people they ‘can’t handle the truth?’
    Now that is rich..


  38. 38 | May 31, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    I KNEW HE’D WALK!


  39. RIX
    39 | May 31, 2012 4:41 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Here’s a good one. Axelrod gets stuffed at Massa2shits presser.
    SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS!

    Axlerod is nothing but a corrupt Chicago politician.
    He sounded silly trying to deliver the jack Nicholson
    line from A Few Good Men.


  40. 40 | May 31, 2012 4:41 pm

    RIX wrote:

    John Edwards, not guilty on one count & the jury
    hung on all other charges.

    I kinda get the impression that some of these charges were brought because you can’t prosecute someone for being a prick. It’s unfortunate that sometimes there just isn’t any earthly justice -- it mightily tests the “serenity to accept the things I cannot change”, ya know?


  41. citizen_q
    41 | May 31, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ Lily:
    Sorry I was answering you and started to go off on a long winded tangent. Long story with a longer ramble short, my in-laws are salt of the earth people who have always treated me well. They are elderly and frail, I have no desire to upset them, so there things I just let go.


  42. RIX
    42 | May 31, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I kinda get the impression that some of these charges were brought because you can’t prosecute someone for being a prick. It’s unfortunate that sometimes there just isn’t any earthly justice – it mightily tests the “serenity to accept the things I cannot change”, ya know?

    That’s it, being a dirt bag is not criminal.


  43. huckfunn
    43 | May 31, 2012 4:42 pm

    Lily wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Here’s a good one. Axelrod gets stuffed at Massa2shits presser.
    SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS! SHOW US THE JOBS!

    Does Axelrod know anything about the truth???? He is telling people they ‘can’t handle the truth?’
    Now that is rich..

    I’m sure the irony is lost on the Walrus… goo goo g’joob..


  44. buzzsawmonkey
    44 | May 31, 2012 4:42 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    Barack Obama’s version of Christianity on the other hand, it’s all about inflicting itself into the political structure of our country.

    I invite everyone to read this superb essay over at C2, by Lucius Septimius, whether or not they are registered there.


  45. buzzsawmonkey
    45 | May 31, 2012 4:46 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I’m sure the irony is lost on the Walrus… goo goo g’joob..

    There should be a “go get good jobs” parody there if I have time…


  46. 46 | May 31, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I’m more concerned that a president share my basic moral code and be slavishly committed to Constitutional constructionalism than he share my particular religious beliefs.


  47. huckfunn
    47 | May 31, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    I have one anecdote about the Mormons. During my brief occupation as a storm adjuster I worked Hurricane Andrew for Utah Home Fire. It was my understanding that they were owned by the Mormon Church. The losses from Andrew were so huge that several companies, having exhausted their reserves, went to the Insurance Commissioner’s office and “tossed the key’s on the table” saying “we’re out of money and we’re all done”. When Utah Home Fire ran through their reserves by $180 million, the Mormon Church ponied up and UHF is still in business today. They didn’t have to do it.


  48. 48 | May 31, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    The media never discussed the history of Islamic agression after 9/11. Instead they told us it was wonderful. The sad part is that Progressives and many Conservatives believe that crap. Now Mormonism is getting a rectal exam that Islam never nor will recieve.


  49. citizen_q
    49 | May 31, 2012 4:50 pm

    @ Macker:
    @ MacDuff:
    I think of edwards with this $400 haircuts shaking up while using his dying wife as campaign prop, and hope there is a special place in hell prepared and waiting for that smug arrogant pig!


  50. huckfunn
    50 | May 31, 2012 4:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    I’m sure the irony is lost on the Walrus… goo goo g’joob..

    There should be a “go get good jobs” parody there if I have time…

    There’s a good lad… :wink:


  51. Lily
    51 | May 31, 2012 4:52 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Sorry I was answering you and started to go off on a long winded tangent. Long story with a longer ramble short, my in-laws are salt of the earth people who have always treated me well. They are elderly and frail, I have no desire to upset them, so there things I just let go.

    Oh I wouldn’t upset them…but I do believe what think is social justice isn’t the real social justice. I don’t blame you…there is no need to upset them.
    /sorry if I came off wrong. With my mom it was a very polite conversation. But then again I had no intention of upsetting her.


  52. buzzsawmonkey
    52 | May 31, 2012 4:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Now Mormonism is getting a rectal exam

    Did you see that Romney held a press conference at the empty hulk of the Solyndra plant?

    Heh.


  53. RIX
    53 | May 31, 2012 4:54 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    My absolute minimum requirement is that the American
    President be pro American.
    We don’t have that now.


  54. citizen_q
    54 | May 31, 2012 4:57 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I was reading this article at American Thinker:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/mystery_religion_mr_obamas_contradictory_conversions_to_christianity.html

    And while I don’t really care so much if converted in 1987 or 1994, or whatever year right around there. What struck me is assuming obama was muslim until converting tobama is admitting to have become an apostate from islam while an adult.

    Doesn’t apostasy as an adult, barring insanity (ok, ok, lets not get into islam itelf is insane), warrant death?


  55. citizen_q
    55 | May 31, 2012 4:59 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    What struck me is assuming obama was muslim until converting tobama is admitting to have become an apostate from islam while an adult.

    PIMF
    Should be:

    What struck me is assuming obama was muslim until converting to rev. wright’s perverse version of Christianity obama is admintting to have become an apostate from islam while an adult.


  56. 56 | May 31, 2012 5:00 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Did you see that Romney held a press conference at the empty hulk of the Solyndra plant?

    Heh.

    Romney’s running a good race, going into the first turn. Better than I expected, far better. He punches back hard and quick. I hope he’s the kind of man that brings a gun to a knife fight.


  57. huckfunn
    57 | May 31, 2012 5:01 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    Now Mormonism is getting a rectal exam

    Did you see that Romney held a press conference at the empty hulk of the Solyndra plant?

    Heh.

    The Romney crew didn’t give any advance info to the press; just told ‘em “follow us”. If the gubmint mob would have known about it ahead of time, they would have shut it down. Sweeeet!


  58. Mars
    58 | May 31, 2012 5:03 pm

    The LDS church has no paid clergy, the money taken in through tithing is held in reserve for those in need. My mother is getting assistance with her bills since my fathers death from the church. All they ask is that she attend church and pay what she can in tithing. They are really saving her home where Social security told her they were so sorry, but she can get screwed for five months out of the year.


  59. citizen_q
    59 | May 31, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ Lily:
    Oh no, I understand. Sorry I am also multi-tasking work……

    The social justice appeared to be entwined with their church activities which are very very important to them. It just seemed wrong to insert myself.


  60. 60 | May 31, 2012 5:06 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Ranting blonde in San Francisco agrees as well.


  61. 61 | May 31, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ Macker:

    Edwards walked? Ah well. Juries.
    Macker -- never did see an email -- can you resend?


  62. Mars
    62 | May 31, 2012 5:08 pm

    The mormon church does not like government aid. They believe that the community and church should support their own.


  63. buzzsawmonkey
    63 | May 31, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    @ huckfunn:

    Note that Romney also put up a video on Foursquare which has him referring to the Solyndra plant as “the Taj Mahal.”

    Lest we forget, the Taj Mahal was built as a tomb—it is the tomb Shah Jehan built for his Great Love. In effect, Romney is referring to Solyndra as a tomb built by Shah Obama for his Great Love—”green jobs.” I get the distinct impression that Romney is both educated and witty enough to think of this, and that Barack Obama is not.


  64. heysoos
    64 | May 31, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    gonna be interesting to see how BO performs under pressure…he has more than the office to lose….it would not surprise me at all if he flat out blows the campaign somehow….he chisled his way into the Il senate and surfed the wave into the POTUS….he’s still a campaign neophyte and I doubt he has the quality back up that Romney has….if he runs short of cash, he’s got a huge problem


  65. 65 | May 31, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ RIX:

    I read that and went “Jesus, what is it with you Democrats and Aaron Sorkin writing your dialogue.


  66. Lily
    66 | May 31, 2012 5:11 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    Barack Obama’s version of Christianity on the other hand, it’s all about inflicting itself into the political structure of our country.

    I invite everyone to read this superb essay over at C2, by Lucius Septimius, whether or not they are registered there.

    An excellent summation. Our bodies aren’t carnival rides. Then we have this that is evil twisted prezet logic….

    White House Says Obama Will Oppose Ban On Sex-Selection Abortions…

    Note: The White House got back to me this evening to say the president opposes the bill.

    White House deputy press secretary Jamie Smith says in a statement: “The Administration opposes gender discrimination in all forms, but the end result of this legislation would be to subject doctors to criminal prosecution if they fail to determine the motivations behind a very personal and private decision. The government should not intrude in medical decisions or private family matters in this way.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/31/white-house-says-obama-opposes-ban-on-sex-selection-abortions/


  67. 67 | May 31, 2012 5:12 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Romney’s running a good race, going into the first turn. Better than I expected, far better. He punches back hard and quick. I hope he’s the kind of man that brings a gun to a knife fight.

    Is it too much to hope he instead brings nuclear weapons?


  68. 68 | May 31, 2012 5:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I thought that was a touch of brilliance!
    He should visit the former NUMMI plant down in Fremont, in Pete Stark’s district, and take that fantastic young CONSERVATIVE candidate for Stark’s seat with him. I heard the kid speak at the TEA Party rally on April 15th. He was sensational.


  69. citizen_q
    69 | May 31, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ RIX:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    I intensely dislike axelrod. Among his many failings, he has this pinched constipated look about him….


  70. huckfunn
    70 | May 31, 2012 5:15 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    @ huckfunn:

    Note that Romney also put up a video on Foursquare which has him referring to the Solyndra plant as “the Taj Mahal.”

    Lest we forget, the Taj Mahal was built as a tomb—it is the tomb Shah Jehan built for his Great Love. In effect, Romney is referring to Solyndra as a tomb built by Shah Obama for his Great Love—”green jobs.” I get the distinct impression that Romney is both educated and witty enough to think of this, and that Barack Obama is not.

    Wow! Interesting detail and fits like a glove. You should pass that on to Steyn and K-hammer. They’d have great funn with it.


  71. heysoos
    71 | May 31, 2012 5:16 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    bad hair too….he’ll never go anywhere


  72. 72 | May 31, 2012 5:17 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Is it too much to hope he instead brings nuclear weapons?

    It’s the only way to make sure….


  73. huckfunn
    73 | May 31, 2012 5:17 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ RIX:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    I intensely dislike axelrod. Among his many failings, he has this pinched constipated look about him….

    He always reminds me of a walrus just as Holder reminds me of a ferret.


  74. buzzsawmonkey
    74 | May 31, 2012 5:20 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    He always reminds me of a walrus just as Holder reminds me of a ferret.

    Holder looks like the Meerkat from The Lion King. Indeed, frighteningly so.

    Valerie Jarrett looks more like a ferret, or perhaps a tailless squirrel—at any rate, a rodent of some sort.


  75. huckfunn
    75 | May 31, 2012 5:21 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    He always reminds me of a walrus just as Holder reminds me of a ferret.

    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
    Of cabbages--and kings--
    And why the sea is boiling hot--
    And whether pigs have wings.”


  76. RIX
    76 | May 31, 2012 5:21 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ RIX:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    I intensely dislike axelrod. Among his many failings, he has this pinched constipated look about him….</blockquote

    >

    Axlerod is not likeable


  77. citizen_q
    77 | May 31, 2012 5:24 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Axlerod is not likeable

    That is true of obama on down his admin, the dem leadership, and hangers on.


  78. 78 | May 31, 2012 5:24 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    gonna be interesting to see how BO performs under pressure…he has more than the office to lose….it would not surprise me at all if he flat out blows the campaign somehow….he chisled his way into the Il senate and surfed the wave into the POTUS….he’s still a campaign neophyte and I doubt he has the quality back up that Romney has….if he runs short of cash, he’s got a huge problem

    It will be interesting, he’s never been really tested, has he? Personally, I think his political savvy, and that of his staff, is highly questionable.


  79. buzzsawmonkey
    79 | May 31, 2012 5:26 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    he’s never been really tested, has he?

    That’s why he uses an Entitleist™ ball on the golf course.


  80. heysoos
    80 | May 31, 2012 5:30 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:
    he’s never been really tested, has he?
    That’s why he uses an Entitleist™ ball on the golf course.

    rolling pretty good there bro


  81. huckfunn
    81 | May 31, 2012 5:30 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    he’s never been really tested, has he?

    That’s why he uses an Entitleist™ ball on the golf course.

    I need to get my glasses fixed. I thought it was an Elitist


  82. 82 | May 31, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Do-a-Poo-Poo!


  83. 83 | May 31, 2012 5:32 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    he’s never been really tested, has he?

    That’s why he uses an Entitleist™ ball on the golf course.

    Indeed. And, in keeping with the golf theme, the most honest campaign slogan would be “Mulligan!” because that’s pretty much the case.


  84. heysoos
    84 | May 31, 2012 5:33 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    MacDuff wrote:
    he’s never been really tested, has he?
    That’s why he uses an Entitleist™ ball on the golf course.

    I need to get my glasses fixed. I thought it was an Elitist ™

    that too….he has is nap trimmed every 2 weeks by some pot dealer outa Chicago…c’mon bro…talking John Edwards vanity here


  85. huckfunn
    85 | May 31, 2012 5:36 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    that too….he has is nap trimmed every 2 weeks by some pot dealer outa Chicago…c’mon bro…talking John Edwards vanity here

    A nappy-headed BO? I’m calling Imus.


  86. RIX
    86 | May 31, 2012 5:37 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Axlerod is not likeable
    That is true of obama on down his admin, the dem leadership, and hangers on.

    For the life of me I don’t know what a lot of people
    find so likeable about Obama.
    He reminds me of the mose picking kid in grade school
    that would narc me out to the nun.
    The guy strikes me as a weasel


  87. Lily
    87 | May 31, 2012 5:39 pm

    RIX wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Axlerod is not likeable
    That is true of obama on down his admin, the dem leadership, and hangers on.

    For the life of me I don’t know what a lot of people
    find so likeable about Obama.
    He reminds me of the mose picking kid in grade school
    that would narc me out to the nun.
    The guy strikes me as a weasel

    Never understood the attraction either. An Allen West seems much more like a presidental candidate than obama. Not to mention even with the tele-prompter he isn’t that great of a speaker. Also if you looked at his record in the Senate …horrible…how many times did he just vote present? How many times was he late?


  88. 88 | May 31, 2012 5:41 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Funny, Axelrod and the rest of the asshats following in Obummer’s wake have never been confronted with people protesting THEM (Obummer always has his hand-picked audience) so Axelrod came off as a silly girly-man. “Yeah, well you shut up.”

    Nice Dave. Can’t wait till you’re in the unemployment line. Or investigated and arrested. Either way, you’ll be living on the public dime. Just like a good Marxist.


  89. buzzsawmonkey
    89 | May 31, 2012 5:41 pm

    RIX wrote:

    For the life of me I don’t know what a lot of people
    find so likeable about Obama.
    He reminds me of the mose picking kid in grade school
    that would narc me out to the nun.
    The guy strikes me as a weasel

    Re-post (it never gets old):

    The Servant When He Reigneth
    —Rudyard Kipling

    “For three things the earth is disquieted, and for four which it cannot bear. For a servant when he reigneth, and a fool when he is filled with meat; for an odious woman when she is married, and an handmaid that is heir to her mistress.” –--Prov. 30: 21-22-23.

    Three things make earth unquiet
    And four she cannot brook
    The godly Agur counted them
    And put them in a book—
    Those Four Tremendous Curses
    With which mankind is cursed;
    But a Servant when He Reigneth
    Old Agur entered first.

    An Handmaid that is Mistress
    We need not call upon.
    A Fool when he is full of Meat
    Will fall asleep anon.
    An Odious Woman Married
    May bear a babe and mend;
    But a Servant when He Reigneth
    Is Confusion to the end.

    His feet are swift to tumult,
    His hands are slow to toil,
    His ears are deaf to reason,
    His lips are loud in broil.
    He knows no use for power
    Except to show his might.
    He gives no heed to judgment
    Unless it prove him right.

    Because he served a master
    Before his Kingship came,
    And hid in all disaster
    Behind his master’s name,
    So, when his Folly opens
    The unnecessary hells,
    A Servant when He Reigneth
    Throws the blame on some one else.

    His vows are lightly spoken,
    His faith is hard to bind,
    His trust is easy broken,
    He fears his fellow-kind.
    The nearest mob will move him
    To break the pledge he gave—
    Oh, a Servant when he Reigneth
    Is more than ever slave!


  90. 90 | May 31, 2012 5:41 pm

    Oh, and Axelrod? “You can’t handle the truth.”

    I’ve heard your boss’s speeches. Neither can he.


  91. Lily
    91 | May 31, 2012 5:44 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Oh, and Axelrod? “You can’t handle the truth.”

    I’ve heard your boss’s speeches. Neither can he.

    They tend to run from the truth like vampires from Holy Water.


  92. citizen_q
    92 | May 31, 2012 5:52 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    @ Lily:
    They are as acquainted with the truth as the occu-pests are with soap.


  93. yenta-fada
    93 | May 31, 2012 5:53 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Ann Barnhardt, who is a devout Catholic, tears into the Church for its liberalism at the cost of the faith.

    The Bishops are Being Played. Like Cheap Fiddles.
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt -- May 23, AD 2012 7:27 PM MST
    I do not understand how it is that this isn’t glaringly, beat-you-over-the-head obvious, but whatever. I’ll explain it. Listen up. Especially if you have a hat shaped like the blade of a posthole digger in your wardrobe, and people actually call you “Excellency.”
    Withdrawing health insurance (like Franciscan University at Steubenville, Ohio), shutting down schools, closing adoption agencies, soup kitchens or ANYTHING ELSE in “protest” of ObamaCare and the HHS “mandates” is EXACTLY, PRECISELY, TOTALLY and COMPLETELY what the Obama regime wants.

    Further, the reason why the “press” has OBVIOUSLY been given the order to keep all of this quiet and to not report in any way on the lawsuits filed by the dozens of various Catholic organizations this week against the Obama regime -- the largest religious legal action ever taken against the U.S. government by a long shot -- is obvious.

    The Obama regime is sitting back and watching all of you cowardly fools fold your own tents. None of the stupid bread-and-circus addicted crowd knows anything about any of this. You have to break out of your narcissistic little world and understand that even though these things are earth-shattering to you, uh, most people in this country don’t even know that their “government” has declared war on the Church.

    So, in a few months, after you all have played right into their hands and shut down your facilities, hospitals, schools and services, congratulating yourselves on your “brave protest”, the Obama regime is going to make a ginormous propaganda offensive telling all of the stupid TV-addled idiots that the Catholic Church doesn’t give a crap about “the people” because they have shut down their hospitals, schools, their soup kitchens, their adoption agencies and won’t even provide health insurance plans to the poor, poor youths attending their universities. The Catholic Church hates “the people”, hates charity, hates sick people, hates women, hates children, hates poor people and is hoarding all of its money.

    Oh, but the Obama regime LOVES you. The Obama regime will provide you and anyone else who joins their Free Shit Army with all of the “free healthcare”, “free education”, “free food” and free unicorn farts they could ever want or need.

    Listen, you fools. YOU DON’T SHUT ANYTHING DOWN. You keep going exactly as you have been, and you force those dirty rotten SOBs to literally storm your hospitals and shut YOU down at gunpoint. And I’m not kidding. Make them physically shut down your hospital by dragging you out at gunpoint. Make them physically shut down your schools. Make them shut down your university by force because you won’t cover abortions in your student health plan. Make them physically shut down your soup kitchens. Make them shut down your adoption agencies because you won’t hand a baby boy over to two men who like to jam various and sundry body parts up each others’ rectums.

    In other words, STAND AND FIGHT.

    The only proper course of action is total non-compliance with these totalitarian edicts of the regime, and FORCING THEIR HAND.

    Anything less than that, and you LOSE. MEN fight wars. If you refuse to do your duty and act like MEN, then the war is already lost. And make no mistake, cowardice is a grave sin, and you will answer for it.

    Every bishop is given a crosier upon his ordination to the episcopacy. A crosier is a shepherd’s staff. It is a six to seven foot long staff that a shepherd uses to beat the crap out of wolves. That’s your job. Beating the crap out of the wolves -- not killing all of the sheep yourself so that there is nothing left for the wolves to eat.

    MAN UP!!!! FIGHT, YOU FOOLS!!!


  94. RIX
    94 | May 31, 2012 5:56 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Oh, and Axelrod? “You can’t handle the truth.”
    I’ve heard your boss’s speeches. Neither can he.

    Did he sound like a buffoon, or what?


  95. Da_Beerfreak
    95 | May 31, 2012 5:57 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    My absolute minimum requirement is that the American
    President be pro American.
    We don’t have that now.

    For starters the President should at least be an American… :evil:


  96. huckfunn
    96 | May 31, 2012 5:58 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Oh, and Axelrod? “You can’t handle the truth.”
    I’ve heard your boss’s speeches. Neither can he.
    Did he sound like a buffoon, or what?

    He sounded like a sore loserman.


  97. buzzsawmonkey
    97 | May 31, 2012 6:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Ann Barnhardt, who is a devout Catholic, tears into the Church for its liberalism at the cost of the faith.

    Did I mention here the sermonette I heard two weeks ago at a Reform “temple” that praised Obama for his support of same-sex marriage? The “rabbi” bragged about how her confirmation classes no longer needed to be prompted to see David and Jonathan as gay lovers, as they used to when she started teaching them some thirteen years ago, and that in the interest of “preserving the timeless values of the Torah” it is incumbent upon us to tear up and throw away the parts we don’t like.

    Reform “Judaism”: the Democratic Party, with holidays.


  98. buzzsawmonkey
    98 | May 31, 2012 6:04 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    He sounded like a sore loserman.

    The gander oft times is discomfited when slathered in the sauce prepared for the goose.


  99. RIX
    99 | May 31, 2012 6:04 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    For starters the President should at least be an American…

    Now the Obama Campaign will demand that Romney
    publically rebuke you!


  100. RIX
    100 | May 31, 2012 6:08 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    He sounded like a sore loserman

    .

    He made such a big deal out of the fact that Romney
    may not carry Massachusetts. It’s a Blue state, but
    hey the squaw Warren is going to lose to a Republican!


  101. yenta-fada
    101 | May 31, 2012 6:10 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Ann Barnhardt, who is a devout Catholic, tears into the Church for its liberalism at the cost of the faith.

    Did I mention here the sermonette I heard two weeks ago at a Reform “temple” that praised Obama for his support of same-sex marriage? The “rabbi” bragged about how her confirmation classes no longer needed to be prompted to see David and Jonathan as gay lovers, as they used to when she started teaching them some thirteen years ago, and that in the interest of “preserving the timeless values of the Torah” it is incumbent upon us to tear up and throw away the parts we don’t like.

    Reform “Judaism”: the Democratic Party, with holidays.

    No, I had not seen that. The same mentality exists in Toronto, of course. We have some of the best lesbian rabbis trained in the U.S. /
    I do believe we are coming to the tipping point, economically, socially, politically. We won’t like it, but we won’t be surprised and confused to watch the bugs hit the windshields.


  102. buzzsawmonkey
    102 | May 31, 2012 6:12 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We have some of the best lesbian rabbis trained in the U.S. /

    ‘Tis a privilege indeed to labia in the vineyards of the Almighty…


  103. yenta-fada
    103 | May 31, 2012 6:14 pm

    Oh, look. Media moguls earn even more than Wall Street honchos.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-27/wall-street-titans-outearned-by-media-czars.html


  104. Lily
    104 | May 31, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I think they are going to fight…I had no idea they are shutting anything down.


  105. yenta-fada
    105 | May 31, 2012 6:15 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We have some of the best lesbian rabbis trained in the U.S. /

    ‘Tis a privilege indeed to labia in the vineyards of the Almighty…

    Hah. (and I thought you were going to talk about lesbian rabbits) lol


  106. yenta-fada
    106 | May 31, 2012 6:20 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    I think they are going to fight…I had no idea they are shutting anything down.

    The media doesn’t print most of the goings on in the Zero administration. Also, as you know, a few small things are incremental like stealth jihad. Unless you are looking for it, you don’t see the larger agenda in some local news report.


  107. citizen_q
    107 | May 31, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I am not that observant or knowledgeable, but that is not the Judaism I was brought up with.

    Is that really Reform Judiasm? I thought the Reform Rabbi I met in Dallas who stumbled over a simple barucha written in phonetic English was an aberration, but now I don’t know.


  108. heysoos
    108 | May 31, 2012 6:22 pm

    as for me, I don’t give a rats ass where BO was born or if he’s Muslim…I don’t give a rats ass regarding Mormans, god, faith or any of that stuff…I only care about performance in office…if a guy has a sharp mind, is honest, cares about ALL Americans, takes no shit and don’t pass the buck, stands up in a fight, burns a little weed now and then and digs Skip James, I’d vote for him….ideally when he is innaugerated, he’ll have longish messy hair, cargos and wearing a ‘Kieth Richards For President’ teeshirt, bust a few moves at the ball and consume cheap vodka and Red Stripe before punching out Iran the next day…in other words, we need a Hells Angel for president


  109. yenta-fada
    109 | May 31, 2012 6:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    I think they are going to fight…I had no idea they are shutting anything down.

    A small example from Bloomberg News. Feds are ‘protecting people’ by shutting down bus companies across the U.S. You can read this both ways. Protect or CONTROL.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/chinatown-bus-companies-shut-down-in-federal-safety-sweep.html


  110. yenta-fada
  111. Lily
    111 | May 31, 2012 6:28 pm
    Obama refuses to apologize for ‘Polish death camp’ remark

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/05/obama_refuses_to_apologize_for_polish_death_camp_remark.html#ixzz1wUNkHDWX


  112. buzzsawmonkey
    112 | May 31, 2012 6:29 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    I am not that observant or knowledgeable, but that is not the Judaism I was brought up with.

    Is that really Reform Judiasm? I thought the Reform Rabbi I met in Dallas who stumbled over a simple barucha written in phonetic English was an aberration, but now I don’t know.

    The Reform “temple” I visited two weeks ago for my nephew’s bar mitzvah was an atrocity on so many levels. Where to begin?

    Shall we start with the fact that with 2000 families as members, it gets barely 40 people for a service even with a couple of special events? Not surprising, I suppose, when you consider that the services are to sing praises of a God that they don’t believe in, in honor of a Sabbath they don’t observe, mitzvahs they reject, and in a language they have not been taught to read, let alone understand.

    The prayers have been gutted; the remnants—the twisted scraps that someone who attended Hebrew school fifty years ago might dimly remember—are repeated endlessly to fill the void.

    Music, which is not customarily played in observant Jewish houses of worship on the Sabbath, fills the remainder of the void.

    It is not possible to take a shomer-Shabbos piss in the synagogue, since every toilet is controlled by an electric eye.

    There was avodah zarah—idolatry—on the doors of the Ark, since it was adorned with “portraits” of several prophets.

    There were several display cases in the various vestibules, containing artifacts of Jewish observance which had clearly been donated when somebody’s parents or grandparents died; “What the hell are we gonna do with Zayde’s menorah? Let’s donate it to the temple!”

    Etc.


  113. heysoos
    113 | May 31, 2012 6:31 pm

    @ Lily:
    hardly a big deal…everyone knows what he meant don’t they?…people get so pissy over the least thing


  114. Lily
    114 | May 31, 2012 6:32 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    No the media doesn’t report anything that will make bho look bad.
    From what I understand the Church will be issuing a statemant that will go to every single Catholic church in the U.S. in June.


  115. buzzsawmonkey
    115 | May 31, 2012 6:32 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I don’t give a rats ass where BO was born

    I loved the comments which attended the Frank Marshall Davis porno shots of Barack Obama’s mommy around the time of the birth certificate brouhaha (BTW, another Big First for BHO; First President to have his Mother’s Luminous Ass Disseminated Over the Internet as Soft-Core Porn); “We may not have Obama’s birth certificate, but at least we can see where he was born!”


  116. Lily
    116 | May 31, 2012 6:34 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    hardly a big deal…everyone knows what he meant don’t they?…people get so pissy over the least thing

    Maybe not to you..but this is making huge head-lines in Europe ..it’s a big deal.


  117. citizen_q
    117 | May 31, 2012 6:36 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Wow, that is tragic. It must have been very difficult for you.


  118. Da_Beerfreak
    118 | May 31, 2012 6:40 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    For starters the President should at least be an American…

    Now the Obama Campaign will demand that Romney
    publically rebuke you!

    They’ll never take me alive… :twisted:


  119. heysoos
    119 | May 31, 2012 6:41 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    ‘who’s yer daddy?…c’mon, who’s yer daddy?’


  120. buzzsawmonkey
    120 | May 31, 2012 6:41 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Wow, that is tragic. It must have been very difficult for you.

    I knew what I’d be dealing with. My sister-in-law loves to offer pork and shellfish to anyone who is the least bit observant. It’s sad, but there it is. My nephew, after completing the (very) little that was required of him for this “bar mitzvah”—bar mitzvah being, traditionally, a celebration of the fact that one is old enough to be personally responsible for performing the Divine commandments—freely expressed relief that, having sleepwalked his way through this event, he didn’t have to do anything Jewish ever again.


  121. yenta-fada
    121 | May 31, 2012 6:42 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That’s just sad. They take the soul out of religion. I’m no angel, nor was I raised with religion. However, I had Orthodox grandparents on both sides and can recogize their values by how they lived. They didn’t even speak English, and yet something was communicated.


  122. Lily
    122 | May 31, 2012 6:43 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Now that is sad.


  123. heysoos
    123 | May 31, 2012 6:43 pm

    @ Lily:
    maybe so…Europe has nothing else to ponder these days besides semantic insultery…fuck them


  124. RIX
    124 | May 31, 2012 6:43 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    For starters the President should at least be an American…
    Now the Obama Campaign will demand that Romney
    publically rebuke you!
    They’ll never take me alive…

    That’s the spirit!


  125. 125 | May 31, 2012 6:44 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    There was avodah zarah—idolatry—on the doors of the Ark, since it was adorned with “portraits” of several prophets.

    Yikes.

    Seems all they need to make the travesty complete is to direct the prayers off a bit from the ark… maybe a few degrees to the right, toward the Black Stone


  126. Lily
    126 | May 31, 2012 6:45 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    maybe so…Europe has nothing else to ponder these days besides semantic insultery…fuck them

    Many Polish people died in the NAZI death camps…it is a slap in their face and Poland is an allie.


  127. yenta-fada
    127 | May 31, 2012 6:46 pm

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    hardly a big deal…everyone knows what he meant don’t they?…people get so pissy over the least thing

    You are disrespectful of a lot of things. It’s not pretty.

    Maybe not to you..but this is making huge head-lines in Europe ..it’s a big deal.

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    hardly a big deal…everyone knows what he meant don’t they?…people get so pissy over the least thing


  128. buzzsawmonkey
    128 | May 31, 2012 6:47 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    Seems all they need to make the travesty complete is to direct the prayers off a bit from the ark… maybe a few degrees to the right, toward the Black Stone

    With a rabbi praising Obama for his stance on same-sex marriage, they’re already in Ba’al country.


  129. RIX
    129 | May 31, 2012 6:47 pm

    I can’t remember which one it was, but after Planned
    Parenthood got outed for condoning sex based abortions,
    a Dem comngresswoman said, “I do’t support sex based
    abortions based on gender.”


  130. yenta-fada
    130 | May 31, 2012 6:47 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I gets confused. arrgh. I meant to say to ‘heysoos’ that he is disrespectful of many things. It is ugly.


  131. yenta-fada
    131 | May 31, 2012 6:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I can’t remember which one it was, but after Planned
    Parenthood got outed for condoning sex based abortions,
    a Dem comngresswoman said, “I do’t support sex based
    abortions based on gender.”

    Yogi Berra is still alive and transgendered? :-)


  132. heysoos
    132 | May 31, 2012 6:49 pm

    @ Lily:
    so he misspoke…only some insecure tribe would be so easily insulted…don’t reduce us all to prickly hacks that purposely seem to miss the point


  133. buzzsawmonkey
    133 | May 31, 2012 6:49 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I can’t remember which one it was, but after Planned
    Parenthood got outed for condoning sex based abortions,
    a Dem comngresswoman said, “I do’t support sex based
    abortions based on gender.”

    Barbara Lee (Oakland, IIRC).

    Maybe she supports sex-based abortions based on a hidden, uh, gender?


  134. Da_Beerfreak
    134 | May 31, 2012 6:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    For starters the President should at least be an American…
    Now the Obama Campaign will demand that Romney
    publically rebuke you!
    They’ll never take me alive…
    That’s the spirit!

    Spirit is about all I’ve got now days; they’ve taken and taxed everything else… :wink:


  135. buzzsawmonkey
    135 | May 31, 2012 6:51 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    so he misspoke…

    The Smartass Man in the Room is too fucking Smartass to bother to get his facts straight, and he pisses on every single one of our allies as he does so—even as he grovels to our enemies.


  136. 136 | May 31, 2012 6:51 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    no longer needed to be prompted to see David and Jonathan as gay lovers,

    I have read enough Baruch Halpern (and enough 1-2 Samuel) to understand that David was not entirely guarded from sin. But homosexuality was not amongst the man’s misdeeds. Some could argue that it would have been better for David’s soul if he hadn’t such an eye for the ladies.

    In Early Iron Age warrior-culture, the bonds between men were… strong. The Greeks were at the same time retelling the story of Achilles and Patroclus.

    Reducing that bond of male friendship to ghey pr0n shows the mark of a juvenile and disgusting mind.


  137. Lily
    137 | May 31, 2012 6:52 pm

    @ heysoos:

    So you are calling the country of Poland a tribe?


  138. 138 | May 31, 2012 6:53 pm

    I do have one srs question though.

    The original Ark is described (in detail) in the Torah. It had cherubim on it.

    Wouldn’t they have been likenesses of mythological beasts?


  139. yenta-fada
    139 | May 31, 2012 6:54 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    Wow, that is tragic. It must have been very difficult for you.

    I knew what I’d be dealing with. My sister-in-law loves to offer pork and shellfish to anyone who is the least bit observant. It’s sad, but there it is. My nephew, after completing the (very) little that was required of him for this “bar mitzvah”—bar mitzvah being, traditionally, a celebration of the fact that one is old enough to be personally responsible for performing the Divine commandments—freely expressed relief that, having sleepwalked his way through this event, he didn’t have to do anything Jewish ever again.

    They don’t even know that they have at least a couple of billion enemies. I sincerely hope they don’t have to find out the hard way. The Western world has been working up “Jewish bankers” to blame for the bad economy. You would gag at some of the comments on financial sites. That’s true in Europe, North America, South America, and ALL of the Muslim world.


  140. RIX
    140 | May 31, 2012 6:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Barbara Lee (Oakland, IIRC).

    Maybe she supports sex-based abortions based on a hidden, uh, gender?

    That’s it, it was Barbara Lee. Not to be confused
    with the other Mensa member Sheila Jackson Lee.


  141. heysoos
    141 | May 31, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    BO is not that impressive on any level…but i cannot believe anybody would try to make pizza pie out of this horseshit…he’s vulnerable elsewhere…but I highly doubt his intention was to trash Poles and Jews…it’s just picking around the edges


  142. RIX
    142 | May 31, 2012 6:55 pm

    See ya later.


  143. yenta-fada
    143 | May 31, 2012 6:57 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    BO is not that impressive on any level…but i cannot believe anybody would try to make pizza pie out of this horseshit…he’s vulnerable elsewhere…but I highly doubt his intention was to trash Poles and Jews…it’s just picking around the edges

    You are acting like a gas bag. Just dissing everything. It’s old. (note bene, I did NOT call you a gas bag. I said you were acting like one)


  144. heysoos
    144 | May 31, 2012 6:57 pm

    @ Lily:
    all humans are tribal to some extent, especially when it comes to politics…I have to doubt that most Poles give a shit about what BO says…he’s a walking gaffe, might as well live with it


  145. coldwarrior
    145 | May 31, 2012 6:58 pm

    @ heysoos:
    in standard diplomacy, when a leader drops a bomb of a mistake like that there is normally a very rapid and public apology and then all is forgotten. that is how its handled.

    given what 0 has done to our allies, and the fact that there was a refusal to apologize shows me a deep rooted problem in this administration.

    ‘mis speak’ happens, it sure does. on a subject like this? there is really no excuse, it isnt like he said its great to be in warsaw when he was actually in gdansk. the refusal to apologize further illustrates the narcissism in this mans psychological makeup.


  146. 146 | May 31, 2012 6:58 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Not to be confused
    with the other Mensa member Sheila Jackson Lee.

    Oh, I do have to pipe in though, because this is delicious. Close to Jackson-Lee’s district is the NASA district, TX-22. Guess whom that district’s Democrats voted for. (Twice in a row.)


  147. buzzsawmonkey
    147 | May 31, 2012 6:59 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    In Early Iron Age warrior-culture, the bonds between men were… strong. The Greeks were at the same time retelling the story of Achilles and Patroclus.

    Reducing that bond of male friendship to ghey pr0n shows the mark of a juvenile and disgusting mind.

    It is, as far as I am concerned, entirely possible that there was a homosexual bond between David and Jonathan. For one thing, there is Saul’s attack on Jonathan (hurling a spear at him) moments after he rebukes him for his affection for David; the kind of self-contradictory behavior you might expect from a father worried about his son’s proclivities.

    But…the point is that whatever that bond may have consisted of, David and Jonathan both had wives and families (just as Oscar Wilde did!); in other words, the message is not that D & J were getting it on, but that even if they were, they kept it on the downlow while fulfilling their obligations to God, tribe and family to be family men. It is for that reason that reducing their relationship to same-sex bouncy-bouncy is an obscenity.

    The Torah does not condemn “homosexuality”—the concept did not exist several thousand years ago. It condemns conduct—and in Torah jurisprudence, you can’t be condemned for conduct rendering you liable for a capital crime without at least two kosher witnesses to the act. Therefore, if you are capable of discretion (so that society is not threatened) you can go as far as you like—in private.


  148. heysoos
    148 | May 31, 2012 6:59 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    gas bag?…someone who does not agree with you?…I just call it like I see it, like you….maybe you’re the gasbag?


  149. Lily
    149 | May 31, 2012 7:02 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    I do have one srs question though.

    The original Ark is described (in detail) in the Torah. It had cherubim on it.

    Wouldn’t they have been likenesses of mythological beasts?

    I do believe the angels wings are described in detail….here is a site….that shows what the Ark may have looked according to the description …scroll down..

    http://lesmess.2itb.com/catalog.html


  150. coldwarrior
    150 | May 31, 2012 7:04 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    It condemns conduct—and in Torah jurisprudence, you can’t be condemned for conduct rendering you liable for a capital crime without at least two kosher witnesses to the act. Therefore, if you are capable of discretion (so that society is not threatened) you can go as far as you like—in private.

    a day where i dont learn something is like a day without sunshine


  151. buzzsawmonkey
    151 | May 31, 2012 7:04 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I highly doubt his intention was to trash Poles and Jews…

    Why do you doubt this? He’s pissed on the Jews numerous times, and he’s fucked the Poles over already at least once over missile placements. Why would this not be intentional? Is it better that he should be a graceless boor rather than a blundering fool?

    More to the point, he and/or his handlers—whose job it is to see that he does not live down to his natural base instincts of rudeness, crudeness, stupidity, and ill-informed churlishness—should have caught this crass, bloviating error before this unthinking, uneducated, over-credentialed crapweasel read his insult off his Teleprompter.


  152. NoThreat2U
    152 | May 31, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Apathy like your is ONE of the reasons this country is in the condition it is.


  153. yenta-fada
    153 | May 31, 2012 7:05 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    gas bag?…someone who does not agree with you?…I just call it like I see it, like you….maybe you’re the gasbag?

    No, you disagree with everyone. Why do you think more than one person has noticed this? I may well be a gas bag, I dunno. However, I respect every poster here until they prove themself not worthy of respect.


  154. citizen_q
    154 | May 31, 2012 7:05 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    My sister-in-law loves to offer pork and shellfish to anyone who is the least bit observant.

    That is just exeedingly rude.


  155. heysoos
    155 | May 31, 2012 7:06 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    shit happens…and I really don’t care what the Poles think because I do not believe it was an insult…I care about BO’s performance here, in America…I don’t think he intentionally insulted anyone…he may be an idiot, but he’s trying to say the right thing to get himself re-elected…I think the problem with these constant gaffes or whatever, is his extreme aloofness and a burning passion to not have to lead…I’m hardly an Obama fan, but I try to be fair


  156. yenta-fada
    156 | May 31, 2012 7:06 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Zimriel wrote:

    I do have one srs question though.

    The original Ark is described (in detail) in the Torah. It had cherubim on it.

    Wouldn’t they have been likenesses of mythological beasts?

    I do believe the angels wings are described in detail….here is a site….that shows what the Ark may have looked according to the description …scroll down..

    http://lesmess.2itb.com/catalog.html

    That’s so interesting. Bookmarked for later. Thanks {{Lily}}


  157. yenta-fada
    157 | May 31, 2012 7:08 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Apathy like your is ONE of the reasons this country is in the condition it is.

    Helloooooo!


  158. yenta-fada
    158 | May 31, 2012 7:09 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    When you speak poetry about Ozero, you don’t even need a computer insult generator. lol


  159. coldwarrior
    159 | May 31, 2012 7:10 pm

    @ heysoos:

    the reason that countries have diplomats and embassies and the like is so that ambiguity is kept to a minimum and intent and meaning are understood fully.

    when these mechanism break down, or are not used to correct a large error such as this, there is a failure in communication. one side then must assume that the other side either meant what he said, or that he is too much of a narcissists to admit the error.

    either way, this is a negative and does not reflect well on us.

    sorry, that is how it works.


  160. heysoos
    160 | May 31, 2012 7:11 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I think it was unintentional because I believe he wants the presidency for 4 more years and trashing Poland is not a part of that recipe…I think he is wrong, and I think he is not so bright, but on this speech I give him a pass…I do not know what he thinks and I may be wrong, but I see him as a very mixed up guy that just can’t make it up as he goes along very well


  161. Mars
    161 | May 31, 2012 7:11 pm

    1. Siding with Argentina over the Falkland Islands

    This has remained the top insult for three years running. For sheer offensiveness it’s hard to beat the Obama administration’s brazen support for Argentina’s call for UN-brokered negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falklands, despite the fact that 255 British servicemen laid down their lives to restore British rule over the Islands after they were brutally invaded in 1982. In a March 2010 press conference in Buenos Aires with President Cristina Kirchner, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave Argentina a huge propaganda coup by emphatically backing the position of the Péronist regime.

    In June 2011, Mrs Clinton slapped Britain in face again by signing on to an Organisation of American States (OAS) resolution calling for negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, a position which is completely unacceptable to Great Britain. To add insult to injury, the Obama administration has insisted on using the Argentine term “Malvinas” to describe the Islands in yet another sop to Buenos Aires.

    In 2012, against a backdrop of growing aggression by Argentina, including efforts to blockade international vessels fishing in Falkland waters, the Obama administration continued to undercut Britain. In January and February the State Department again supported direct negotiations between Argentina and Britain, parroting the line taken by Buenos Aires.

    2. Calling France America’s strongest ally

    In January last year, President Obama held a joint press conference at the White House with his French counterpart, literally gushing with praise for Washington’s new-found Gallic friends, declaring: “We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people.” As I noted at the time:

    Quite what the French have done to merit this kind of high praise from the US president is difficult to fathom, and if the White House means what it says this represents an extraordinary sea change in US foreign policy. Nicolas Sarkozy is a distinctly more pro-American president than any of his predecessors, and has been an important ally over issues such as Iran and the War on Terror. But to suggest that Paris and not London is Washington’s strongest partner is simply ludicrous.

    These kinds of presidential statements matter. No US president in modern times has described France as America’s closest ally, and such a remark is not only factually wrong but also insulting to Britain, not least coming just a few years after the French famously knifed Washington in the back over the war in Iraq.

    3. Lecturing Britain on a federal Europe and undercutting British sovereignty

    The Obama administration’s relentless and wrongheaded support for the creation of a federal Europe, from backing the Treaty of Lisbon to the EU Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), is a slap in the face for the principle of national sovereignty in Europe. While the Bush Administration was divided over Europe, the Obama team has been ardently euro-federalist. Hillary Clinton called the Lisbon Treaty “a major milestone in our world’s history”, and in an interview with The Irish Times in 2009 stated: “I believe [political integration is] in Europe’s interest and I believe that is in the United States’ interest because we want a strong Europe.” And Vice President Joe Biden has described Brussels as the “capital of the free world.”

    Most insultingly, the Obama administration has sought to intervene in British policy towards the European project. The US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman, has warned Britain that “all key issues must run through Europe.” According to a report by The Parliament.com, in a private meeting with British MEPs at an event in the European Parliament in January 2011, Susman called for a stronger British commitment to the EU, emphatically warning against British withdrawal:

    [.......]

    4. Betraying Britain to appease Moscow over the New START Treaty

    In February 2011, The Daily Telegraphbroke a major story with damaging implications for the Special Relationship, revealing that Washington “secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty.” According to The Telegraph report:

    [......]

    5. Airbrushing Britain from Europe

    A striking feature of Obama administration speeches on Europe is the frequent omission altogether of Great Britain, as if it doesn’t even exist. A major recent example of this was an address in January 2012 by Philip H. Gordon, US Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs, on “the state of transatlantic relations”, which completely left the British out of the discussion of the role of US allies in the Afghanistan and Libya operations, as well as the Iranian nuclear crisis. As I noted at the time:

    It is a sad day when the most senior US official on Europe cannot even bring himself to acknowledge the vital role and huge sacrifices made by America’s closest partner on the battlefields of Afghanistan, while much of Europe barely lifts a finger in the war against the Taliban.

    6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office

    It is hard to think of a more derogatory message to send to the British people within days of taking office than to fling a bust of Winston Churchill out of the Oval Office and send it packing back to the British Embassy – not least as it was a loaned gift from Britain to the United States as a powerful display of solidarity in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. Obviously, public diplomacy is not a concept that carries much weight in the current White House, and nor apparently is common sense. Three years on, the Churchill bust incident continues to embarrass the Obama White House, and remains a sad symbol of this administration’s contempt for the Special Relationship as well as one of the greatest figures in British history.

    7. Placing a “boot on the throat” of BP

    The Obama administration’s relentless campaign against Britain’s largest company in the wake of Gulf oil spill was one of the most damaging episodes in US-UK relations in recent years, with 64 percent of Britons agreeing at the time that the president’s handling of the issue had harmed the partnership between the two countries according to a YouGov poll. The White House’s aggressive trashing of BP, including a threat to put a “boot on the throat” of the oil giant, helped wipe out about half its share value, directly impacting the pensions of 18 million Britons. This led to a furious backlash in the British press, with even London mayor and long-time Obama admirer Boris Johnson demanding an end to “anti-British rhetoric, buck-passing and name-calling”.

    [.......]9. Insulting words from the State Department

    The mocking views of a senior State Department official following Gordon Brown’s embarrassing reception at the White House in March 2010 says it all:

    There’s nothing special about Britain. You’re just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn’t expect special treatment.

    10. Confusing England with Great Britain

    Perhaps less of an insult than an embarrassing indictment of Barack Obama’s Columbia and Harvard education, the president’s extraordinarily ignorant response to the storming of the British Embassy in Tehran last November, dubbing it the “English” Embassy, was the kind of elementary mistake that would have had America’s liberal press howling with derision had it been made a few years earlier by George W. Bush. As I wrote soon after the president’s gaffe:

    It would be nice if the leader of the free world bothered to look at a map once in a while, or even paid a visit to the British Embassy in Washington, currently housing the Churchill bust that Mr. Obama unceremoniously threw out of the Oval Office soon after his inauguration… The White House will no doubt dismiss this latest faux pas by the president as a slip of the tongue, but it cannot disguise the fact that it has on many occasions treated Britain and other key allies with an air of disdain, and even contempt.

    http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/03/15/an-updated-list-obamas-top-ten-insults-against-great-britain-2012-edition/

    Britain

    1. Obama’s humiliation of Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House

    In March, the Israeli Prime Minister was humiliated by Barack Obama when he visited Washington. As The Telegraph reported, “Benjamin Netanyahu was left to stew in a White House meeting room for over an hour after President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of tense talks to have supper with his family”, after being presented with a list of 13 demands. As I wrote at the time:

    This is no way to treat America’s closest ally in the Middle East, and a true friend of the United States. I very much doubt that even third world tyrants would be received in such a rude fashion by the president. In fact, they would probably be warmly welcomed by the Obama White House as part of its “engagement” strategy, while the leaders of Britain and Israel are frequently met with arrogant disdain.

    2. Engaging Iran when Tehran threatens a nuclear Holocaust against Israel

    In contrast to its very public humiliation of close ally Israel, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to establish a better relationship with the genocidal regime of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad , which continues to threaten Israel’s very existence. It has taken almost every opportunity to appease Tehran since it came to office, and has been extremely slow to respond to massive human rights violations by the Iranian regime, including the beating, rape and murder of pro-democracy protesters.

    3. Drawing a parallel between Jewish suffering in the Holocaust with the current plight of the Palestinians

    In his Cairo speech to the Muslim world, President Obama condemned Holocaust denial in the Middle East, but compared the murder of six million Jews during World War Two to the “occupation” of the Palestinian territories, in a disturbing example of moral equivalence:

    “On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people – Muslims and Christians – have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than sixty years they have endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations – large and small – that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: the situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own.”

    4. Obama’s attack on Israeli “occupation” in his speech to the United Nations

    In his appalling speech to the UN General Assembly last September, President Obama dedicated five paragraphs to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, without once referring directly to Palestinian terrorism by name, but declaring to loud applause “America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.” He also lambasted the Israeli “occupation”, and drew a connection between rocket attacks on Israeli civilians with living conditions in Gaza. The speech served as a ghastly PR exercise aimed at appeasing anti-Israel sentiment in the Middle East, while bashing the Israelis over the head.

    5. Obama’s accusation that Israel is the cause of instability in the Middle East

    As The Wall Street Journal noted, “the Obama Administration seems increasingly of the view that Israel is the primary cause of instability in the Middle East”, citing a recent press conference where he stated:

    “It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into them. And that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure.”

    6. The Obama administration’s establishment of diplomatic relations with Syria

    While actively appeasing Iran, the Obama administration has also sought to develop closer ties with the other main state sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East, Syria, establishing diplomatic relations with Damascus in February. Syria remains a major backer of Hamas and Hizbollah, both responsible for a large number of terrorist attacks against Israel.

    7. Hillary Clinton’s 43-minute phone call berating Netanyahu

    As The Telegraph reported, Hillary Clinton sought to dictate terms to Israel in the wake of Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Jerusalem:

    “In a telephone call, Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, ordered Mr. Netanyahu to reverse a decision to build 1,600 homes for Israeli settlers in occupied East Jerusalem that sparked the diplomatic row. She also instructed him to issue a formal pledge that peace talks would focus on core issues such as the future of Jerusalem and the borders of a Palestinian state. In addition, the Israeli prime minister was urged to make a substantial confidence-building gesture to the Palestinians. Mrs. Clinton suggested this could take the form of prisoner releases, an easing of the blockade of Gaza and the transfer of greater territory in the West Bank to Palestinian control.”

    Last time I checked, Israel was still an independent country, and not a colonial dependency of the Obama White House. Yet that still hasn’t stopped the Secretary of State from acting like an imperial Viceroy.

    8. David Axelrod ‘s attack on Israeli settlements on “Meet the Press”

    It is extremely unusual for a White House official to launch an attack on a close US ally on live television, but this is exactly what the President’s Senior Adviser David Axelrod did in an interview in March with NBC’s Meet the Press, designed to cause maximum humiliation to Israel, where he stated in reference to new settlement construction in East Jerusalem:

    “This was an affront, it was an insult but most importantly it undermined this very fragile effort to bring peace to that region. For this announcement to come at that time was very destructive.”

    9. Hillary Clinton’s call on Israel to show “respect”

    As The Telegraph revealed, the Secretary of State lectured the Israelis at a dinner attended by the Israeli ambassador and the ambassadors of several Arab states in mid-April, urging Israel to “refrain from unilateral statements” that could “undermine trust or risk prejudicing the outcome of talks”. In Clinton’s words:

    “Prime Minister [Benjamin] Netanyahu has embraced the vision of the two-state solution. But easing up on access and movement in the West Bank, in response to credible Palestinian security performance, is not sufficient to prove to the Palestinians that this embrace is sincere. We encourage Israel to continue building momentum toward a comprehensive peace by demonstrating respect for the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinians, stopping settlement activity and addressing the humanitarian needs in Gaza.”

    10. Robert Gibbs’ disparaging remarks about Israel

    Not one to shy away from criticizing America’s friends when the opportunity arises, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs entered the fray in an interview on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace in March where he attacked the Israeli government for weakening “the trust that’s needed for both sides to come together and have honest discussions about peace in the Middle East.” In condescending terms he stated that Benjamin Netanyahu should start “coming to the table with constructive ideas for constructive and trustful dialogue about moving the peace process forward.”

    Israel

    That’s just two allies. After a while it isn’t semantics, it’s a pattern.


  162. Lily
    162 | May 31, 2012 7:12 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Welcome {{yenta}}! :)


  163. NoThreat2U
    163 | May 31, 2012 7:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Hellllloooooooooooo!


  164. heysoos
    164 | May 31, 2012 7:16 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I never argued otherwise…if he were a cautious leader he would evaluate his speeches with more enthusiasm…he doesn’t, he blurts…but the deathcamp thing is gonna go nowhere…attack him on the economy, relentlessly, forget this fringe crap where he falls over his own tongue


  165. Lily
    165 | May 31, 2012 7:16 pm

    @ heysoos:

    He was reading from a tele-prompter and after the gaffe should have immediately corrected his statement and apologized. PDQ.


  166. buzzsawmonkey
    166 | May 31, 2012 7:19 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I think it was unintentional because I believe he wants the presidency for 4 more years and trashing Poland is not a part of that recipe…I think he is wrong, and I think he is not so bright, but on this speech I give him a pass…I do not know what he thinks and I may be wrong, but I see him as a very mixed up guy that just can’t make it up as he goes along very well

    The Smartass Guy in the Room is “not so bright?” “Mixed up?” Rank heresy, I tell you!

    You have to understand something; for this arrogant, entitled jackass there has never been any consequence whatever for his ignorance, insularity, stupidity, whatever. He has always, until now, failed upwards. He does not realize that there are real-world consequences to pissing into the mouths of America’s allies—in part because he doesn’t give a shit about what happens to America.

    Yes, he wants another four years to party on the public dime. But he has no clue whatever to the notion that his fatmouthing might harm him in this regard. It never has before—and if it looked like it was going to, one of those white folks he hates deeply in his heart came in and covered for him so that he could continue to fail upwards. He has no clue what insulting Poland will do to him—even (especially) in the Greater Chicagoland Area of his base, because he assumes that things will be taken care of for him. They always have been for this coddled little brat.

    Choom and the Gang think that they are entitled to a lock on another four years ripping off the nation; they probably have told themselves that they can steal enough votes, especially with the Meerkat running DoJ, that they needn’t worry. It is our job to show them how very, very, very wrong they are. We have to vote in such great numbers that they can’t steal their way to victory.


  167. 167 | May 31, 2012 7:19 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m with you two. I know I don’t post/comment much but I read here alot and see it constantly.


  168. yenta-fada
    168 | May 31, 2012 7:19 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Hellllloooooooooooo!

    I can’t heeeeeeeeaaaaaar you! :-)


  169. coldwarrior
    169 | May 31, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ heysoos:

    hit him wherever and whenever he is vulnerable…every day he makes more ammo for the right.

    romney is doing a fine job sticking to the economy, the other outlets are firing at will. i quite this set up


  170. coldwarrior
    170 | May 31, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ Mars:

    yoiks!


  171. yenta-fada
    171 | May 31, 2012 7:22 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:
    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m with you two. I know I don’t post/comment much but I read here alot and see it constantly.

    I love it when you post. I was describing the border situation in Arizona (the way you talk about it) to a Liberal. They didn’t get it. sigh.


  172. heysoos
    172 | May 31, 2012 7:22 pm

    @ Lily:
    he didn’t…so what?…do you think his mob will desert him for it?…what’s the point of dwelling on this shit when it will not sway voters?…the economy is the fight, his misspeak about Poland means nothing to some broke down, outa work guy in Akron…if it feels good to bitch about every breath BO takes fine…but it does not interest me…he has a job to do here and he’s failing, that’s where you beat him at the polls


  173. NoThreat2U
    173 | May 31, 2012 7:23 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Can you hear me noooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  174. yenta-fada
    174 | May 31, 2012 7:24 pm

    later, dinner calls.


  175. buzzsawmonkey
    175 | May 31, 2012 7:24 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    his misspeak about Poland means nothing to some broke down, outa work guy in Akron…

    There are, in Cook County, more Poles than there are in Warsaw.

    If you don’t think that the Light Worker’s insult to Poland does not resonate with them, you are not aware of how politics work.


  176. yenta-fada
    176 | May 31, 2012 7:25 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Can you hear me noooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why, yes, I think so. I re-adjusted the string on my tin can. Fix it at your end.


  177. heysoos
    177 | May 31, 2012 7:26 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    yes, so far so good…it’s imperative Romney take the economic high road…these fringe issues may be interesting but the economy is the target


  178. coldwarrior
    178 | May 31, 2012 7:27 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    he didn’t…so what?…do you think his mob will desert him for it?…what’s the point of dwelling on this shit when it will not sway voters?…the economy is the fight, his misspeak about Poland means nothing to some broke down, outa work guy in Akron…if it feels good to bitch about every breath BO takes fine…but it does not interest me…he has a job to do here and he’s failing, that’s where you beat him at the polls

    well, we arent here to interest you. so if a topic doesn’t interest you, dont comment. people do that all the time. it works great.

    and dont be sure that guy in akron doesnt care about this, he is probably 2d generation polish…or at least a ukie…

    perogies all round!


  179. NoThreat2U
    179 | May 31, 2012 7:28 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Tin cans an string…it’s all we need to keep in tough :) lol


  180. Lily
    180 | May 31, 2012 7:28 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Poland is an allie to the United
    States…I do not see the American media basing him on this, but our ALLIE POLAND takes this very personal as well they should, they suffered terribly under the tyranny of the NAZI’S. The RNC isn’t bringing this up, Mitt Romney isn’t bringing this up..but the pundits and blogs and other outlets are, his refusal to apologize to Poland yet he apologizes freely to our enemies is a BIG DEAL.


  181. heysoos
    181 | May 31, 2012 7:28 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    yeah, he lost the Hamtramck vote too


  182. coldwarrior
    182 | May 31, 2012 7:32 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    yes, so far so good…it’s imperative Romney take the economic high road…these fringe issues may be interesting but the economy is the target

    precisely!

    we have to have something to do as well. if all we did was talk about the economy all day it would be pretty boring, wouldnt it?


  183. heysoos
    183 | May 31, 2012 7:32 pm

    @ Lily:
    and some of my best friends are Poles…you are missing my point nicely…BO said a stupid thing, BO doesn’t think it was stupid and won’t apologize…wtf does any of that have to do with defeating him in the fall?…call me when the Polish vote defeats BO


  184. buzzsawmonkey
    184 | May 31, 2012 7:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    yeah, he lost the Hamtramck vote too

    It is my understanding that Hamtramck is now largely Muslim, so he’ll probably take that.

    But if you don’t think that Fatmouth Barry has Pole-arized a segment of his support, you’re wrong.


  185. heysoos
    185 | May 31, 2012 7:33 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    why do you have your hands down your pant?….
    jus askin


  186. buzzsawmonkey
    186 | May 31, 2012 7:34 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    BO doesn’t think it was stupid and won’t apologize…wtf does any of that have to do with defeating him in the fall?

    An arrogant, ungracious candidate is rarely a successful candidate.


  187. Lily
    187 | May 31, 2012 7:35 pm

    @ heysoos:

    No I am not missing your point at all. You are missing my point that you don’t insult another country who is an allie.


  188. heysoos
    188 | May 31, 2012 7:35 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I don’t know shit, except this….Ham no longer exists, in practical terms


  189. buzzsawmonkey
    189 | May 31, 2012 7:37 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Ham no longer exists, in practical terms

    Somebody better tell my local supermarket.


  190. heysoos
    190 | May 31, 2012 7:38 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    let’s hope…I have a hunch that BO is gonna zag when he shoulda zigged


  191. heysoos
    191 | May 31, 2012 7:39 pm

    @ Lily:
    well he did…now what?


  192. Lily
    192 | May 31, 2012 7:40 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Apologize and PDQ.


  193. coldwarrior
    193 | May 31, 2012 7:42 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    why do you have your hands down your pant?….
    jus askin

    what makes you think i am wearing pants?


  194. heysoos
    194 | May 31, 2012 7:47 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    why do you have your hands down your pant?….
    jus askin

    what makes you think i am wearing pants?

    lets see here…I have alot of windows open…hold on…are you Honey Drip?…wait…what was the question?


  195. Lily
    195 | May 31, 2012 7:50 pm

    Have a good evening all.


  196. buzzsawmonkey
    196 | May 31, 2012 7:52 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Have a good evening all.

    If you insist. I did have other plans.


  197. Formercorpsman
    197 | May 31, 2012 10:09 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I think it was unintentional because I believe he wants the presidency for 4 more years and trashing Poland is not a part of that recipe…I think he is wrong, and I think he is not so bright, but on this speech I give him a pass…I do not know what he thinks and I may be wrong, but I see him as a very mixed up guy that just can’t make it up as he goes along very well

    What the hell are you smoking tonight?

    This guy has been the most deliberate politician in my lifetime to try and make hay from off the cuff references, winks, and nods.

    Poland has been a staunch ally of our country. They were ferociously instrumental in helping bring down the Iron Curtain. Combine that with the comment he made, and in the context of which he was referring to, this guy makes us look bad.

    If he made a gaff, fine. Apologize for it. He sure as hell had no problem apologizing for us seeking retribution after 911, or making sure we knew the cops acted stupidly at a friend’s residence.

    He just spit in the face of our ally.


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