As much as I am impressed with Mitt Romney’s gloves off campaign with the American Pharaoh, there is one thing that irks me. For some reason, to appear tougher than Obama, Mitt Romney wants to invade and install an Islamist regime in Syria. I am no fan of the Assad regime, but the Muslim Brotherhood is not a better alternative. The Syrian war is Iran/Hizb’Allah/Assad Regime vs. Muslim Brotherhood/Al-Qaeda fighting out. Both sides are enemies of the US. Under normal circumstances we would sit by and let them destroy each other. Unfortunately there is a transnationalist Wilsonian Progressive clique that controls the foreign policy of both parties.
Mitt Romney is listening to the Tranzis who want to install another Islamic regime with American treasure and blood. The majority of Americans don’t want intervention in Syria, yet Romney is pushing this. Andrew McCarthy, who has taken on the Tranzi Pro-Islamist Wing of the GOP warns Mitt. He writes that there will be no good result for American intervention in Syria.
Congratulations to Mitt Romney. In calling for “opposition groups” to be armed and trained for their ongoing jihad against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, the GOP’s presidential contender has managed to align himself with al-Qaeda emir Ayman al-Zawahiri and Muslim Brotherhood icon Yusuf al-Qaradawi.
Like the legacy media, the McCain wing of the Republican party, and the rest of Washington’s progressive, Islamophilic clerisy, Governor Romney is reacting to a regime-engineered massacre last week. Assad’s forces reportedly killed 108 Syrians in Houla, a rural enclave outside the “opposition” city of Homs. Victims included women and children shot at close range, in summary-execution style.
Yes, Assad’s minority Alawite Muslim regime is a key ally of Iran’s revolutionary Shiite-supremacist government. That does not alter the stubborn fact that the anti-Assad “opposition groups” are dominated by Sunni supremacists. Stubborn facts cannot be evaded by clever labeling — “opposition groups” in Syria having become the euphemism du jour that “rebels” was in Libya, “peaceful protesters” in Egypt, “uprisings” in Tunisia, and so on.[....]The Muslim Brotherhood, leader of the Sunni supremacists, has a hammer-lock on the Syrian National Council (SNC), the main opposition group the Obama administration has been courting — with the McCain wing cheering from the sidelines. Meanwhile, as trumpeted on the Brotherhood’s website, Sheikh Qaradawi has been organizing Syria’s Islamist revolt for months, reprising the starring role he is playing in Egypt. Al-Qaeda — whose help the Brotherhood is happy to have when it is expedient, as it was in Libya — put its muscle into the Syrian revolt months ago.
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Washington can idealize the Syrian “opposition” into liberty-loving freedom-fighters; to Syrian Christians, they are the jihad. With churches being torched, families being terrorized by kidnappings and murders, and thousands of believers being put to flight
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What Obama has been smart enough to do, at least to this point, is refrain from direct military aid, undoubtedly realizing that he would be blamed when, inevitably, it became clear that American arms went to America’s enemies. But McCain and the Brotherhood goaded the president into using force in Libya — where the victorious “rebels” quickly installed sharia law and parceled out Qaddafi’s arsenal to Hezbollah, Hamas, and al-Qaeda. Another misadventure in Syria, it seems, is only a matter of time.
In their anxiety over our nation’s future, conservatives see the upcoming November election as a make-or-break crossroads. Thus, the Right’s indifference to Mitt Romney, the only alternative to Obama’s reelection, is striking. But it is not bewildering, and stories like Syria’s go a long way toward explaining it. Desperation to avoid the third Carter term does not translate into enthusiasm over the specter of the third Bush administration.
Andrew McCarthy once again exposes the Islamist sympathies of Bi-Partisan elites in Washington. Once again the elites from the comfort of their homes want to send Americans to die in another war for Islamic Democracy. After 11 years of nation building, Americans in both parties have had enough. Mitt Romney has a golden opportunity to stand up to the Tranzi Progressive Wing of the GOP. Instead he is spouting their Pro Muslim Brotherhood rhetoric.
If Mitt Romney wants a successful Presidency, besides governing as an economic/fiscal Conservative, he needs to stay out of Syria. Many Conservatives have learned the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan. If Romney goes to war in Syria, his Presidency will be toast.
Americans are tired of Dhimmitude to Islamic interests!
Hey! Romney!
Leave those thugs alone!
All you are is just a…nother Globalist ho…
If Romney goes ahead with this, then we’ll know he fully believes he is the tribe of Ephraim.
as for those with the noble intention of military involvement in Syrian affairs…please tell us just what it is the US can do with any dgree of success
naw, Romney is probably just listening to that jackass McCain (and I don’t mean The Other..) who is now the full complement (ie, opposite) to MObama… he’s ashamed (ok, embarrassed) of his country for NOT invading Syria or some such similar idiotic thing.
At least with Libya, there was a clear side to root FOR. Not because Sasha Baron al-Qaddafi was such an awesome guy, but at least he was neither on the Sunni nor the Shi’a side.
@ Kirly:
I can’t believe Romney shared a stage with McCain on Memorial Day.
Bad, bad optics.
Bumr50 wrote:
yes, it’s bad optics to us but McCain and Romney are part of the establishment wing of the Republican party so I can believe and I’m not the least bit surprised by it. In fact, I’ll bet McCain is advising him, hence my earlier comment.
One of Romney’s top advisors was a McCain advisor. Education. Could be a small world maybe. lack of a pool of qualified people?
Romneys falls sway to the Dem false narratives.
I agree with Rodan that we should just be hands off in Syria. What’s the Obama rush? Not enough salafists in power in the world? We would do better building a military base in Israel and killing the people that rocket attack us.
How McCain was community organized by Obama.
@ Kirly:
After he appeared in front of Solyndra, I was hoping he was willing to completely smack Obama around.
My fear is that Romney is not quite “establishment RINO” but woefully ignorant on foreign policy leaving him vulnerable to extremely bad advice from our neighborhood GOP interventionists.
If I’m not mistaken, even John Bolton has been on board with this. Hopefully he takes McCarthy’s advice to heart.
Muslims in Syria are functionally naive. Wrongly educated. Living on unrealistic daydreams. If we help Assad we lose, if we help the other side we lose. Because their goals are not the same as ours. The only win there is to let Russia do its thing.
Assad’s time is done though unless he can prop himself up through violence. Best we not be anyplace around.
OT
Bumr50 wrote:
on economics/finance I think Romney will smack Obamao around. but, i think that might be all he has if he’s taking advice from McCain and his advisors who Romney should know, helped McCain lose.
@ Guggi:
I think the Zimmermans got all of that money as part of a defense fund, and had no idea when, where, or how to claim that money as personal wealth.
It seems to me a blatant and petty attempt to get Zimmerman behind bars, as they’re under pressure from God knows how many “groups.”
The amount of money that they raised to help defend him isn’t even that much.
The prosecution would have you believe that the Zimmermans were somehow hiding scads of money and were well off BEFORE the fact.
It may be a legal maneuver, but it’s dirty pool.
@ Kirly:
Romney’s business acumen probably informs him to delegate responsibilities in areas that he’s not comfortable with, which makes it doubly damaging if he chooses the wrong people.
Bumr50 wrote:
It’s a shame.
@ Guggi:
We’ll see where they put him. If he doesn’t get house arrest or protective custody, we’ll know more about their agenda.
They probably should send Zimmerman to Gitmo, for his own safety. “General Pop” in any county lockup, State prison or whatever is likely to be dominated by individuals of the Trayvon Martin culture.
@ Alberta Oil Peon: or it will be how Obama and cronies killed Zimmerman
@ Bumr50:
he’ll do the time in the county…around a year til the trial starts
@ heysoos:
His (new) attorney may be able to renegotiate a bond if he’s able to explain the situation, assuming Zimmerman wasn’t hiding any monies of his own when he pleaded indigence.
@ Bumr50:
the judge felt he was deceived and rightly so…it’s a huge event because it probably will come back haunt him
@ Bumr50:
They are hoping somebody knifes him in jail to save them from losing at trial. I know exactly what they are thinking, and it is dispicable.
@ heysoos:
You think it’s justified even if Zimmerman was unclear on how much money he had due to the fact that his legal defense fund was a work in progress?
I don’t think the Zimmermans or their attorneys had a clue as to what was going on with the defense fund, and I don’t think (assuming that’s the case) that he should be punished with jail time. If the issue was money, then he should simply up the bond. It’s not as if Zimmerman hi-tailed it with the loot.
@ Bumr50:
I think the jailhouse phone calls to his wife are accurate…there should also be a record of PayPal emails to the primary addy, updates on the account are daily I believe…he lied, plain and simple
@ Bumr50:
as for hightailing, there is the matter of the second passport that was very fishy, but the judge let that go…he presented himself as a fight risk…I’m trying to stay in the middle as usual, but this whole incident looks very bad
Kirly wrote:
Read this article in my newspaper today apparently obama is longing for a candidate like McCain to run against instead of Romney..So Romney is doing something right.
http://www.camdenarknews.com/news/WireHeadlines/2012/06/03/what-s-this-obama-longs-for-gop-rival-li-73.php
Bumr50 wrote:
Dorian put across clear reason for Syria…they have some dangerous weapons that should not get in the hands of the rebels. This is what Bolton is concerned with.
Lily wrote:
in the abstract, I don’t think Mitt can win this election, but I do think BO can lose it…his crew has no idea how to govern, let alone fight a tough, close election and even right at this moment BO is on the ropes…he has a poor record, claims of being aloof, donks fleeing him, younger voter ignoring him, some Jews are starting to whine (and rightly so), GI’s don’t like him, the Catholic Church is standing their ground, the far left is very disappointed and the economy sucks just as bad as when he was elected…on and on…Mitt has to let the game come to him…don’t say anything stupid, attack with facts, tell his far right nutters to stfu and grab the indy vote…I said four years ago, in the midst of BO worship that he can be beat, or more likely beat himself
@ heysoos:
From what I am seeing right now Romney is giving obama a harder fight than they expected. Personally I think you aren’t giving Romney enough credit. So far he is doing a much better job than I would have thought.
Bumr50 wrote:
You have just earned one whack upside the head with a pair of heavy 10x50 binoculars from the Osprey.
Do you know why?
@ heysoos:
There is simply no case for re-electing Obama; none. His hardcore base is 30%, more or less, and he’s alienating plenty of those on a daily basis. There’s not much doubt that there are millions who voted for him in 08 that will either voter for Romney or stay at home in November. Where are the Obamabot converts that will fill that void. There aren’t any. Also, the gay marriage issue and war on Catholics will cost him millions of votes.
Lily wrote:
If this would be true they should help Assad Jr. Those could be the WMD from Iraq which were first transferred to Sudan and then back to Syria after the Sudan had openly requested Syria to retrieve the stored weapons from there. Assad would never use these weapons because it would be much to dangerous for him.
Lily wrote:
I’m really impressed with Mitt so far. I had expected a McRino type approach but Mitt has been fairly aggressive.
@ Lily:
well then I’m not understood…Mitt has done a fine job the last few weeks…I don’t particularly like the guy, but he’s the guy…he must move away from his far right peeps (and they need to let him) for the last few laps, stay away from fringe or wedge issues and pound on the economy…this is a classic case of staying focused on what All voters agree on….it’s the economy…if the entire GOP can rally behind him and stay on the subject, he can win…this election will not be decided on gay rights, abortion or states rights…it’s about the economy
@ huckfunn:
Indeed and Romney is attacking him on the issues..so all he has got is Romney is a radical. Yeah right. Even dem’s in Washington are runniing away from him in droves. He is a rogue president plain and clear.
Kirly wrote:
WHACK!
@ huckfunn:
i agree with haysoos on not taking up the obama false narratives on fringe issues. mitt should hit on jobs. mitt should test the credentials of any reporter running the false narratives against him. give them a loyalty check. obama or the country.
Obama will run for a sympathy poor me vote towards the end. mitt will be a rich bully, obama will be the poor guy who killed Bin Laden. women and kids.
Lily wrote:
When Obama loses Maureen Dowd, he’s toast. Dreaming of a Superhero
Disclaimer: I hate linking to the NYFT, but will do so when they make my point.
@ heysoos:
Romney is staying on point and the bloggers, pundits and books are getting dirty with the other issues that do matter to people whether you think so or not. So let the RNC and Romney stay on point and let the others get dirty. It is a two-pronged attack which is working quite well if the obama campagin thinks Romney is ‘too radical’. Which is a load of crap. Attack him from every side and obama becomes unbalanced and starts making a ton of mistakes because his base is eroding and the more it erodes the more crap obama will step in. No one fainting over him and his god-like image of himself makes him more apt to extreme mistakes within his campagin and the more he will screw up in public.
darkwords wrote:
I agree. I also wish he would go after Holder on the Fast & Furious crime. Holder needs to be an issue in this campaign.
the BO machine is going to try and make this election a street brawl, a melee…overwhelm the opponent with dirt, get him on the ground and kick him in the face…a fight Mitt will lose if he gets sucked into it….if Mitt can maintain at least the appearance of civility, he will benefit from all of us that are burned out on mud politics
huckfunn wrote:
Indeed …. this makes my case….the obama worship is eroding.
heysoos wrote:
Baloney. Mitt can handle a fight, so far he is on point. Drip, dripl, drip and let the flood gates open at just the right time. Obama NEEDS WORSHIP! He doesn’t have it this time like in 2008.
@ Lily:
certainly BO’s halo is tarnished….that rock star shit won’t work this time, and I’m betting that’s all he’s got
heysoos wrote:
Yep. You can see the beginnings of it in Florida with Holder trying to stop Florida from purging voter rolls of dead and non-citizen voters. Holder will do everything in his power to nullify the entire Florida vote because he see that it’s not going his way. At the very least he’ll try to cast the Florida election into the same kind of morass as the 2000 election. Then simply keep counting the votes until O-hole wins.
heysoos wrote:
So far they have dropped the ball on this….they have tried the class-warfare..didn’t work out that well…racial-warfare just can’t gin that up like they want…so far they aren’t doing too well…sorry about you being about mud politic’s but that is just the way it is.
heysoos wrote:
That is all he has got … not to mention a horrible record while in the White House…not just a bad record…a HORRIBLE ONE!
huckfunn wrote:
I think this has to be timed just right. Just because he hasn’t yet..doesn’t mean he will not attack Holder. Gotta be timed at the right point.
Lily wrote:
exactly, we might HAVE to secure those weapons. imagine if al-q gets them. having that stockpile proliferate through terror inc is simply not an option
coldwarrior wrote:
Indeed, indeed, indeed.
Lily wrote:
WhenIf Issa ever gets around to filing contempt charges against Holder, Mitt needs to get on board that train right away.coldwarrior wrote:
I’ll bet they’ve got a Seal team doing drills on that as we speak. Maybe even a coordinated effort with the Brits.
the UNSC is a monumental failure…to think that this corrupt, antiAmerican cancer is primarily funded by the USA is enough to make me hurl
@ huckfunn:
Fast & Furious needs to be explained to the American
people in understandable terms. A lot of people think
that Fast & Furious is a Sharon Stone movie or something.
It should be a media buy with a a narrator with gravitas.
If the people truly understood it there would be
outrage.
RIX wrote:
I don’t see what’s so hard about “300 dead f***ing Mexicans, killed by Holder’s express policies”
Well, maybe the f bomb could be redacted.
RIX wrote:
I honestly think it’s been clearly and effectively explained plenty of times and I believe that everyone who knows about it understands. The problem is that MFM has been stonewalling it as much as Holder has. I agree that there should be a TV ad.
Holder is a petty gangster with a bunch of power…yet he;s made a mockery of the DoJ…he’s fucked up about everything he touches, from Ted Steven to Gitmo to Florida…he’s a goon in a fancy suit
@ heysoos:
He is the protecting wall surrounding obama make no doubt about that.
Timing is the key at bringing him down. Too soon you will get the sympathy factor. A lot of democrat senators are concerned about him but they cannot penetrate the protective wall Jarrett has surrounded around him and obama. The timing is the key to kick down the this chicago-thug administration. Everything has to be timed just right.
huckfunn wrote:
I wonder if obama would approve of this and if it is, is it off the grid?
@ Zimriel:
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You would think, wouldn’t you?
still people are not dumb, they are just not paying
attention.
It needs to be spelled out.
huckfunn wrote:
Excatly. The MSM would be all over this if it were any other president besides obama. But they are carrying his water. Geez…you would think they are part of his re-election campagain…oh wait they are. Look towards the British press vetting him better than our own media.
@ huckfunn:
The voice over should be somebody who sounds really
credible.
James Earl Jones comes to mind, he is a Conservative
Republican. Would he risk all of the Uncle Tom smears?
RIX wrote:
I think more and more people are aware of this. Problem is the media isn’t showing that they are. So it is a non-event concerning the press here.
White sox just won! Number one fan Obama would have
been thare if they still played at Olde Kaminsky Field.
huckfunn wrote:
gonna need a lot more than a seal team. there are tons of the stuff in syria. this will require troops on the ground
@ Lily:
You’re right, the MSM is purposefully ignoring it.
That’s why there needs to be massive media buy
for the whole month of October, imo.
coldwarrior wrote:
Throw Putin into the mix and Syria’s a real hairball.
RIX wrote:
I agree and October would be the perfect month to do it in also.
coldwarrior wrote:
Unfortunatly….and Russia is getting in the mix. Bad mojo is a brewing in my opinion.
@ Lily:
i am with putin in this one. i would rather have asad in power than the terrorists and islamists.
this isnt a civil war, there are non-syrians trying to overthrow asad and set up another nation for the caliphate.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well I can’t disagree with this. The non-syrians that are trying to over-throw are worse than he is.
@ Lily:
.
Yup, let obama choke on his own medicine.
(For off their nut bloggers in Culver City, choke
is being used figurtaviely.
Lily wrote:
sadly.
@ RIX:
There is so much material for obama to choke on it should come bit by bit then the whole buffet at once.
The Osprey wrote:
I really hate the term “bad optics” too. Can we ban anyone that uses it in a sentence when they should have used the proper term “bad for their image” instead??
it would be nice if Turkey would flex some muscle…and this gig is spilling over into Lebannon…the best outcome would be if Syrian ties to Iran are somehow crippled, making them both more vulnerable…wishful thinking
@ coldwarrior:
We have troops doing multiple deployments, many
coming back in body bags,with broken bodies and/or
broken minds.
BHO & McCain etal should not be ble to misuse them in
Syria to install Sharia savages,].
@ Lily:
Bad guys have the bio weapons in Syria. The Assad regime would give it to Hizballah in a heartbeat. Sorry Syria is not worth the blood of Americans. If Romney invades Syria, his Presidency is toast. Americans are tired of dying for Islamic causes.
@ RIX:
i am all for arming asad and getting whatever help he needs to him. the idea of hezbollah armed with vx, sarin, and mustard gas is the worst possible outcome
@ RIX:
After all, he played Admiral Greer….
@ heysoos:
The best case would be Syria to disintegrate as a nation.
Lily wrote:
Yeah, eventually carpet bomb Obama in the media.
This Administration is a criminal enterprise.
It’s like a Chicago, Marxist crime family.
I am very happy for Syria to become a Russian client state and not a Persian one (or a Wahhabi one). That to me would be ideal.
Admittedly, this goes against my Cold War habits; but then, back in the 1970s-80s we weren’t Communist yet.
@ The Osprey:
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Sorry.
heysoos wrote:
their officer corps was eviscerated a couple of years ago, i doubt they would be very effective fighting force at the moment.
@ coldwarrior:
More dead Americans dying for the Muzz. That would be the end of a Romney Presidency. I say let them kill each other.
coldwarrior wrote:
I don’t disagree with that. We would be better off with Mubarak
in Egypt, Kahdaffi in Libya & I believe Sadam in Iraq.
The enemy is Al Queda & Iran.
@ Rodan:
yup…chaos is fine with me…I feel for the victims, but there is no good alternative…Assad has few means to project WMD and if he does, he’s be a pariah, even in the ME…he doesn’t have the balls, since it would point straight back to Iran…all’s well so far…Muslims on display for the whole world to see…if they want to kill children, we cannot stop them
scuds and chemicals
right now asad controls them…he goes, and these weapons end up with the islamists.
@ coldwarrior:
Yup.
Bumr50 wrote:
It’s ok.
Don’t fall for the games the Left plays with the language.
@ coldwarrior:
There are rumors he might transfer them to Hizballah if he falls. If that occurs, the Israelis will hit the convoys and have to invade Lebanon.
@ heysoos:
Yup, not my problem.
@ coldwarrior:
they don’t have to fight, they need to threaten and bully
Putin needs a contract put on him….sorry, but he needs to go…
in this world, I’m into extralegal measures
Rodan wrote:
seriously? this isnt about dying for the muzz.
i am talking about thousands of tons of chemical weapons.we will have to keep that out of the hands of al-q and hezbollah if asad loses it.
i’d rather not see those used against israle and then lord knows where else they would show up.
do you have any idea how horrible vx is? vx is particularly nasty and you dont need a lot of it to kill many many people
Rodan wrote:
no, it gets transferred if he falls.
@ coldwarrior:
cool, that makes it much easier to find, track and kill the fuckers…Assad won’t allow anyone to upstage him…if he has the stuff, he ain’t gonna give it away
@ coldwarrior:
So get US troops involved in another occupation? No thanks. The American public will flip out when they hear we have to invade a country to secure WMDs. There will be protests in the streets and many on the Right will join anti-war rallies.
We need peace and prosperity, not more wars.
Do you really think Americans will tolerate another occupation with IEDs blowing up troops? Nope.
As for the Chemical weapons, they are likely to use it on themselves. Its nasty stuff, but we are broke and sick of nation building.
heysoos wrote:
he falls and the islamists will simply take the stuff.
i want everyone to read up on vx and then get back to me. i have a feeling that there is some misunderstanding about how horrible this stuff is. we arent talking about some explosives here. this stuff is severe danger. severe.
@ Rodan:
do you think that the weapons will simply stay in syria if the isalmists take over?
no, they will be spread everywhere.
we HAVE to secure these weapons. that does not mean nation building. it might mean some serious use of force tho. this is an insanely dangerous situation with this stuff.
@ coldwarrior:
Israel aint gonna sit back and let the Hiz get those weapons.They will strike.
@ coldwarrior:
agreed, but it’s a two edged curse…whoever lights up chemical weapons is dead…precisely why I supported invading Iraq…you go there, we will kill you, period….that’s the bottom line
Rodan wrote:
anyone who protests us and some allies going into syria to get these weapons is simply an uninformed fool.
this is serious shit here. this goes beyond spreading democracy and the like.
coldwarrior wrote:
Do a thread on it.
@ coldwarrior:
In order to secure those weapons, you have to invade. That means occupation. Occupation means dead Americans. The public will not support this.
Rodan wrote:
with what? then spread vx all over the place in the explosions? they had better be able to control the wind if they do that.
this stuff has to be secured by professionals.
@ Rodan:
indeed…give the IDF a window and they will go off….if these issues degrade to live or die, Muslims are gonna burn…there is immense firepower standing against a spreading conflict….between us and Israel and Turkey, the Magic Kingdom etc….it’s not given that some fool despot will cook his entire country out of spite or ego…we hold an enormous techno edge and will use it…Syria knows this
@ coldwarrior:
Well count me in as a fool. I am dead against any occupation of an Islamic country. Did you not see how we set up a Narco-Islamic state in Afghanistan and a Sharia state in Iraq. What do you think will happen in a US occupied Syria? The same crap. We put in an Islamist government while our troops get killed.
No thanks I will be part of the majority of people opposing another adventure.
huckfunn wrote:
i’m done, peeps can read up on it if they like. maybe just how dangerous this situation is will sink in after some reading.
gonna go play with my browning hp and the ak.
see yinz later!
Part of our problem is that we were not ruthless
enough in Afghanistan, with overwelming force.
The 9/11 attack was planned there.
It’s not to be inhumane, it is to say that “this
is what happens when you attack & kill Americans.
Karzai should be gone.
Rome didn’t last so long by hand wringing & giving the
Legions ridiculous Rules of Engagement.
the Paki nukes are far more irritating than Syrian chemical stuff
Rodan wrote:
Ignoring the huge elephant in the room though isn’t going to make it go away. No one knows how Romney will handle it. All I am saying is bashing Romney for something he hasn’t done or not know what he will do is kind of redundant at this point. He has Bolton as an excellent consultant… Should we be bashing Romney now when we need to really, really, really get a very rogue president out of the White House?
@ heysoos:
That’s scarier.
heysoos wrote:
Rodan wrote:
then neither of you understand just how dangerous vx actually is.
(now where did i put my targets???)
later!
Rodan wrote:
I am sure they will also put every Arab Capital on notice. Especially the Aswan High Dam!
@ RIX:
Gone as in exiled to The Magic Kingdom™, or Gone as in D-E-A-D DEAD!
coldwarrior wrote:
Bingo. Right now he will keep them because it lends him power to control them. If he falls all bets are off.
@ RIX:
not ruthless enough?…recall the Highway of Death or whatever they call the road from Kuwait City to Baghdad…it was a relentless massacre…relentless in Astan means more troops and more time…not worth it, but the US can certainly be relentless when needed
heysoos wrote:
Might want to look up what Syria has. Sorry the middle east is becoming more dangerous day by day. I agree with Coldwarrior this isn’t about Islamist’s killing Islamists.
we can fiddle around with a fickle Pakistan…but if they go rogue, off the track, I’m certain that the CIA has a plan
Macker wrote:
I guwess that I would go for exile.
Assasination would be gratuitous.
Karzai is a member of a drug family, he
gets threats.
He should have been told point blank, “You
publically criticise us of fuck with us in
any way, you’re gone. You work for us until
we go home.”
@ Lily:
Syria would mean the Democrats come back in power and the Right permanently splits. Is it a dangerous situation, yes but not worth the lives and treasure of the US> we are broke and need to fix our economic and fiscal situation.
Afghanistan and Iraq were fiasco. Syria will be another disaster and means more dead Americans and more debt.
No thanks.
@ heysoos:
Reread the post, I was talking about Afghanistan.
And the Road of Death was the First Gulf War,
not Enduring Freedom.
@ Lily:
what the Syrians ‘have’ is mostly speculation, in terms of public information…I’d bet my life that Syria has no means of storing, protecting, maintaining chemical weapons…they are labor intensive to deal with and are most likely buried in barrels of crud in the desert…biochems are probably a much larger problem for them than for us…I’m not worried
@ RIX:
I offered an example where the US is ruthless, not specific
@ heysoos:
I think the WMD stuff is just a way to scare the Right into supporting another Nation Building adventure. The difference is many are not falling for this.
Rodan wrote:
Right now no one knows what exactly Romney will do and no it doesn’t mean the democrats go back in office. Of course our economy is at the forefront …but I think Romney can chew gum and walk at the same time which obama can’t do. You are guessing that Romney WILL INVADE. Right now he is expressing concerns on what is going on in Syria…does that mean invade? I’m sorry this isn’t either Republican or Democrat this is dangerous weapons that could fall in terrorists hands. Very bad weapons. What to do? I’m sure there is several options.
heysoos wrote:
But I was talking specifically about Afghanistan,
not generalities.
You respnded to something that I did not say.
@ Rodan:
handling chemical weapons is an extremely high techno gig…getting them into some sort of delivery system just compounds the problem…you could dribble the shit from a donky walking around town, but then likely you’d kill yourself too…as far as I know neither the Iranians or Syrians have any way to send chem weapons to the enemy…containng the shit takes huge resources and tech…shooting them into Israel is doubtful, certainly to the point where US troops would be involved
@ RIX:
I did…is that a penalty?
@ Lily:
Many on the Right are tired of invading Islamic hell holes. The only way to get these weapons if they even exist is to occupy and invade. If Romney decides on an invasion of Syria, how will he get our economy in order? War means money and occupations are a drain. If he does this, the Right will split and enable the Democrats to get back in power. The Dems will revert back to their anti-war stuff and many on the Right will join them on opposing a Syrian war. That will be the end of a Romney Presidency and say hello to President Andrew Coumo in 2016 running on no more wars.
The public has had it with this.
heysoos wrote:
Nah, ain’t a thang.
@ heysoos:
Here’s something for the people who want to invade Syria to think. If Assad has these weapons, will he not use them on an invading Army? He would have nothing to lose, so he will not sit on them.
@ RIX:
I’m just enjoying blabbing away…thinking, posting…I don’t mean to have friction
heysoos wrote:
Are you sure of that? I’m not advocating for anything to be done right now especially with obama in office.
heysoos wrote:
There is no friction. Glad that you’re over here.:)
@ Rodan:
I don’t know, maybe but it’s a huge risk…Muslims hate each other more than they hate Jews or the West….let em have at it…when events evolve, I will too
Rodan wrote:
Right now I don’t think he would just willy-nilly invade….of course the public has had it with this..but not while obama is in office. You don’t know what Romney will do? That is my point. I’m very sure he will have to clean up our own country first before he does anything and I mean anything overseas.
VX is a not-bad case for occupying Syria, at least for a few months, to keep that stuff away from the Ikhwan / al-Qaeda. I still think that the chem-weapon argument (“wmd’s”) was a not-bad reason for toppling Saddam. (Although we should have left earlier.)
But… that assumes that Syria still has that stuff.
Can someone explain why Iran hasn’t yanked all that stuff out of there already? Iran has basically owned Syria since the Shah fell.
@ Lily:
Whaaaat!!!!!!!!! Obama is President!
Son of a &*%$! I thought that I just
had a bad dream.
Rodan wrote:
Who says we are going to invade Rodan???? And who is saying here we should invade??? The case here is Syria has some very bad weapons that could fall in some very bad peoples hands. That is the issue. Right now let’s see how things go. If anyone is apt to invade it is Obama…so lay it at his feet.
Rodan wrote:
I agree with you generally but I have to nitpick this point.
Iraq proved that, no, an Arab regime can’t use them on an invading army. Dunghills like Iraq and Syria have armies staffed with ass-covering mental midgets who aren’t trusted with basic information like, where all this crap is stored. They physically cannot get the material to the front lines in time.
Chemical weapons are for gassing Kurds and selling to terrorists.
@ Lily:
I’m sure that if you harbor lethal chemical weapons, you’d better have your shit together bigtime…they are just as dangerous to the owners than to the target populations
@ RIX:
glad to be here thanks to folks like yourself
@ Lily:
The BHO October Surprise?
World War One was different. Britain and Germany were serious nations with a tradition of organisation and national-loyalty. Iraq and Syria not so much. So Britain and Germany (tragically) *could* gas their opposite trenches. I’m not seeing it with Syria.
heysoos wrote:
Right on!
RIX wrote:
RIX wrote:
No telling what he will do. I’m not even going to guess…the only thing I do know is he will not go quietly into the night.
@ Lily:
So, it’s true then? Oh the humanity!
Back to the topic at hand: if we’re not in agreement, and we’re all on the same side, this is a hint that our candidate -- Romney -- should keep quiet about it. If he has classified information that leads him to think that we should invade, then Romney should SEW HIS TRAP SHUT ABOUT IT. I’ll mail him the needles and thread.
It should not be a political football. If we have to invade Syria (I don’t see why, yet, but it’s possible) then for God’s sake don’t telegraph that opinion.
@ Zimriel:
back then, you could stuff an artillery shell and lob it (downwind) right into the enemies front door, since they were static and you knew exactly where they were…not like that anymore
heysoos wrote:
Of course.
RIX wrote:
I know.
I think that a lot of these problems in the Middlle
East need to be taken care of by Seal Team Six
Commander Barack Rambo.
He makes the “gutsy call.”/
@ Lily:
Oh well. in the words of the late , great John
Bulushi, “Drink heavy.”
@ RIX:
@ RIX:
if he was Mafia, he’d be Barry the Noodle
@ heysoos:
Who says he isn’t mafia? Sure acts like ‘em.
@ RIX:
yeah, we aren’t gonna solve anything here…too bad for the Free World if they ignore us
heysoos wrote:
He would.
heysoos wrote:
We need to get nasty and throw a Black man out of his
house.
You know that the Dems will frame it that way.
@ Lily:
just riffin on those cool oldtime mob nics…Barry the Mouth…Black Barry…etc
Lily wrote:
Don Corlebama. The Foppish Godfather.
@ heysoos:
Yeah I knew you were. Noodle fits.
Later y’all
Deep thought, “Wherever you go, that’s where you are”
Heavy
RIX wrote:
Barry the Fairy?
/okay I know that is wrong …. but he did that to himself and all.
RIX wrote:
Man that is deep.
heysoos wrote:
agreed
heysoos wrote:
Big Ears Obama
Bathhouse Barry…
@ 112 coldwarrior: 10 mg lethal does. dead if you breath it unless someone is standing next to you to inject an anti nerve agent into your heart. It scared the Brits enough they thought nukes were the safer deterrent.
Lily wrote:
I think we should leave the Rodanese people alone!
US Imperialists, hands off Rodan!
heysoos wrote:
Outsource it to India. Let Sandeep take care of it.
darkwords wrote:
Hell, and the vx isn’t even the really deadly shit, cyclosarin is ten times deadlier. Lethal dose, 1 mg. Whether you breath it, or just come in contact with it on exposed skin. More importantly, from what I have been able to gather, in the days just before Desert Storm, Saddam shipped somewhere around 1000 to 5000 55 gallon drums of cyclosarin across they Syrian border in order to avoid getting caught with it.
The Osprey wrote:
Of course we shouldn’t invade the people of Rodan!
@ doriangrey:
Imagine that stuff hiding in…Damascus!
doriangrey wrote:
Good grief!! But nothing to worry about if it falls into the hands of terrorists. Geez.
Kristen Bell is funny
The Osprey wrote:
something like that…Pstan does not control their destiny…we do, no wonder they get pissy
OT and over the line. This country’s gonna fight another civil war. I don’t see a way around it. Hell, I might start it.
http://themadmedic.blogspot.com/2012/06/ethan-mccord-goes-full-retard.html
BBL. Gotta go hit the heavy bag for awhile.
BLOGMOCK RADIO COMING UP AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR!
@ 178 doriangrey: To me it would only take a gallon milk container of it to be considered a weapon of mass terror. Assad could have it stored in his secret cooler ready to rocket it anywhere.
I am guessing he pulls a SAddam if he goes down and torches the country. Gives the WMD to the people he still likes.
Despite tequila production being limited to Mexico, over 70% of the final product goes to the USA.
Bunk X wrote:
Yay. Carolina Girl/southern accent. Rodan/New Yawk. Savage/savage. lol
darkwords wrote:
That was random, right?
@ darkwords:
we rool…I party with a gal from Austin…she brings $150 a bottle tequila with her everywhere she goes, or two or three bottles…but it’s a ritual with serving trays, plastic red shot glasses etc…spent many a night drinking tequila with Little Feat, John Hiatt, the subdudes, Sonny Landreth…good times
@ heysoos:
whoops..talking rock and roll shows
darkwords wrote:
Cyclosarin is a highly persistent liquid. In other words, it is not prone to evaporation. It can be easily transformed into a highly persistent fog. It has a high molecular weight so the fog is heaver than air and sinks towards the ground. That fog does not disperse quickly or easily. That fog will eventually precipitate into micro droplets which are not prone to evaporation and can linger for between days and weeks. It’s really really bad stuff. A gallon of it sprayed from a skyscraper in a major city would kill hundreds to thousands. It’s that bad.
i go in the pool for a couple hours and come back to … cyclosarin?? egads! sounds like some serious Dooooomage.
i do love the way the conversation freely flows here.
@ doriangrey:
So, are nukes the only thing which can destroy it?
hahahaha, i created my own hashtag on twitter! #doomage
https://twitter.com/Kirlz/status/209290526514618368
Macker wrote:
Well, it does have a relatively low flash point of 94 °C (201 °F). So clean up doesn’t require a nuclear blast, pretty much any kind of fire will do it.
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