Think you know everything about the whole Rathergate affair? Yeah, I did too. You’ll be surprised to learn that things didn’t really go down the way we all thought they did. Our very own Carolina Girl is co-hosting the show tonight with Rodan and Savage. Let’s give her and her special guest a good Blogmocracy welcome!
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Tags: Buckhead, Dan Rather, George Bush, LGF, Rathergate
Shout out to Dorian!
YAY!
oh we are on FIRE tonite
Buckhead one of the real hero of Rathergate is on.
Buckhead just said what CJ has always claimed: “I knew it was a forgery immediately.”
Why no chat on BTR site?
@ The Osprey:
Sorry! It’s open now!
Is BlogTalk Chat on?
Rodan wrote:
He sure was.
@ Bunk X:
Nevermind…
@ Speranza:
We are doing Charles a favor and removing his role.
Rodan wrote:
I am sure he is grateful (and is listening). /
m wrote:
What did I do this time?
Rodan wrote:
Lets get a transcript and post it
@ doriangrey:
Rodan gave you a shout out and thanks for the intro ~:D
@ doriangrey:
I gave you a shout out for the intro. Plus I said you can play better guitars than Charles.
Rodan wrote:
ROTFLMAO… That is going to piss chunkels the clown off… His head may explode over that…
doriangrey wrote:
No it’s not, he doesn’t read this site, lol
savage wrote:
Yea, right… And Obama doesn’t wear mom jeans and throw like a girl either…
@ doriangrey:
You should challenge him to a Guitar battle!
Buckhead is kicking ass.
@ doriangrey:
Post will go up at 6AM tomorrow. We’re still collecting screencaps.
Rodan wrote:
Chuck has to wear his Cheetos™ colored overalls.
The Osprey wrote:
Yea, I don’t think so.
Wallace and Schmidt most likely did vote for Obama.
McCain always was a pain in the ass for Republicans.
Hey I gave Graham that nic.
Thanks!
hahha you got credit, Speranza
Speranza -- where are you?
Now McCain wants us to help al-Qaeda in Syria.
Yeah and the NY Times published a story about him (McCain) having an affair.
@ Carolina Girl:
I am here.
Ooops -- forgot to refresh the comments.
Speranza -- check your text messages.
@ Speranza:
Nah. I have a lot of respect for McCain. He had no business running as a Presidential Candidate IMO.
Rodan let me on I am on hold.
Bunk X wrote:
As a politician I have zero respect for him (McCain) and for most of the Northeast GOP Nixon/Rockefeller/Bush Establishment.
McCain turned himself into pre-First Mooch Michelle. He is so embarrassed by his country
Rodan wrote:
huh? your giving Charles liposuction?
waldensianspirit wrote:
Traitors tend to feel that way.
Valerie Jarrett, the first female President of the United States
Report: Mooch And Valerie Jarrett Decided To Freeze Out Oprah, Felt She Was a Threat To Michelle’s Agenda…
In layman’s terms, she doesn’t eat halal and is much too fat
Israel fitting nuclear arms on German-supplied subs: report
Prepared.
@ waldensianspirit:
Isn’t it ironic…
Here’s an idea; help the US debt with a pay-per-view of Axeldouche and Eric “his people” Holder duking it out
Speranza wrote:
Okay, that explains our differences. I liked Nixon and both Bushes. As a non-politician, I still respect McCain.
Bunk X wrote:
In my opinion -- nothing to like abut them. They were Progressive Republicans all were the antithesis of Reagan if you will and all would have fit in well in the Democratic Party.
That is @defendwallst -- good guy
AIG Chief Sees Retirement Age as High as 80 After Crisis
Reality check.
Yeah, us liking Nixon is a bit like a liberal saying he likes Wilson or Carter. Nixon was godawful. He wasn’t even really on our side; Reagan should have won that ’68 primary (and made Nixon Sec’y of State I guess).
@ Zimriel:
You see Castro’s daughter going on about wanting Obama because he improves relations with Cuba just like Carter did
Hitler did not win the election, he was handed power after the 1932 election in which they (the Nazis) had lost 3 million votes.
Zimriel wrote:
JFK cut taxes across the board -- Nixon never did. Nixon lead to Carter and W. lead to Obama. Thanks a lot!!
Nixon was evil incarnate to the Left in the 60′s. The demonization of Nixon paved the way for the demonization of Reagan and Bush.
Damn, I was thinking the show was going to run another 1/2 hour, I’d have called in earlier.
I’m sorry Osprey!!
Hey Rodan, have you seen that new Andy Garcia move about the Catholic rebellion in Mexico against the Plutarco Elias Calles regime? I saw it last night, thought it was a very good flick.
m wrote:
Dont’ sweat it I was an idjit, should have called in earlier. Been doing housekeeping tasks while listening to the show, lost track of the time, thought I still had 1/2 hour more.
@ The Osprey:
Thanks, I have been wondering what that movie was about.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Christero War.
@ The Osprey:
I had no idea! I saved that link. Very interesting. Thanks.
@ The Osprey:
I’m going to see it this week. Another good movie by Andy Garcia is The Lost City about the Cuban revolution.
Rodan wrote:
Yes, I need to Netflix that one.
@ NoThreat2U:
NT2U, hope you are feeling well tonight.
Otherwise, I am looking for Dorian, my feed from BTR keep dropping, but the last thing I heard him say was that Catholics hate Protestants.
@ Calo:
HI Calo. I am well tonite. And how are you doing?
@ NoThreat2U:
Very well, thank you for asking.
Great show, AGAIN, on BTR tonight.
@ Speranza:
I was just trying to be cordial to you, Mr.”I’m a politician.”
@ Calo:
Ditto. Got off track but came back on several times. Congrats to Carolina Girl for setting it up.
@ Bunk X:
Buckhead was more gracious than I can say during the email exchange we were having in the run off. I even sent one email with the date wrong and he was very nice in calling it to my attention.
@ Zimriel:
Given the time and circumstances (i.e. the Cold War) Nixon fit the bill. Watergate was incredibly inept and stupid, but even that was small beans compared to what the Clintons did.
@ Speranza:
Nixon chose an inept VP.
@ Calo:
Glad to hear you are doing well!!!!!
That should have been run UP. I must have elections on the brain. BTW Dorian thanks for the head’s up on the California law and the particulars. The story I read didn’t mention it at all.
The Osprey wrote:
EXACTLY.
Bunk X wrote:
Oh, let me see if I know this…Spiro Agnew?
Carolina Girl wrote:
I was hoping that JC would call in to talk about the .gif story. Good show. Buckhead was entirely bitchin’.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I like boobs.
So, what do you guys think of those Pre-Harappan mega cities found in the middle of the Gulf of Kutch? Larger in size then NYC. Population estimated to be between 900,000 and 1 million. Submerged at the end of the last ice-age they’ve been under water for over 7500 years and it’s suggested that they are upwards of 15,000 years old.
@ Bunk X:
I’m shocked!
Let me guess, Mr. Jazzy Bike Shorts didn’t do much in all of this?
Off Topic but: Better than ice cream…
doriangrey wrote:
Who has been telling people on this blog about Ancient Advanced Civilizations?
@ doriangrey:
Well, then I guess the Indians have won their debate with the Chinese over who has an older civilization.
Rodan wrote:
Certainly not you, your always going on about crazy space aliens and Rev Farfugnution…
@ Bunk X:
@ The Osprey:
The Left also hated LBJ, and he was not Conservative. The truth is that with the exception of Reagan, Harding and Coolidge Republican Presidents and Candidates have been Center-Left. The GOP is a Center-Left Party with a Center-Right base, hence all the issues it has.
@ doriangrey:
Ancient Aliens, not the modern UFO conspiracy stuff. I did a thread on Atlantis.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Many are surprised when I reveal my true opinions.
@ doriangrey:
That is supposed to be the City of Krishna.
The Osprey wrote:
It also confirms that there was an Ancient Advanced civilization.
Rodan wrote:
Well, they were more advanced at the time than we thought, but they probably weren’t as advanced as we are now, or they would have been able to predict and plan for the end of the last ice age, which probably wiped out at least that city when massive glacier bound lakes in the Himalayas were set free by glacial melt to wash the place into the sea.
@ Rodan:
I don’t disagree with that statement at all. If it weren’t for Ron Paul’s foolhardy isolationism I’d be full bore Libertarian.
Rodan wrote:
And they were destroyed by GLOBAL WARMING! BILLIONS DIED!
/Ludwig
@ doriangrey:
I think it’s about time they pay their fair share of taxes like the rest of us.
Rodan wrote:
Did they have infomercials? No.
I rest my case.
@ The Osprey:
I think Humanity has had ups and downs. It probable that these advanced societies were more advanced than what followed and that although we are definitely more advanced than anything until the Renaissance.
I believe these advanced societies had help from Non Earth entities. The Nephilim aka Fallen Angels or Ancient Aliens to others.
@ Bunk X:
There is the mystery of Mohenjo-daro and what Dorian linked to. There is ample evidence that Humanity was very advanced in the past. A cataclysm happened and humanity started over after the Ice Age.
@ Bunk X:
I am a Non Paulian Libertarian. I view the Paulains as a balance to the Neocons. I’m not an Isolationist, nor am I an interventionist.
@ The Osprey:
Chavez said the same thing!
Rodan wrote:
Not really it’s more likely that the mythical City of Krishna was based on the civilization that built that city though. While the evidence is coming in slowly what does seem to be indicated is that their was a world wide level of civilization during the last ice-age that basically was submerged when the ice-age ended and the oceans rose some 500 feet.
The pre-Indus Valley Civilization for example appears to have retreated inland away from the Ocean as the Ocean levels rose and their cities were submerged. Japan’s Yonaguni-Jima, also submerged at approximately the same time and Cuba’s underwater lost city and of course Atlantis all seem to have been perched on the ends of the antediluvian plains.
@ Rodan:
I don’t doubt that there were “advanced” civilizations that vanished without a trace. All we have to go on are those societies that kept some form of records. For all we know, the elder elders wrote volumes on their arms and legs with henna.
@ Bunk X:
I bet a lot of it was porn.
The Osprey wrote:
I seriously doubt that their was any cataclysmic flood per say, but a very significant rise in the Ocean’s sea level that probably took place over several decades. I say this because the evidence from the mega cities in the Gulf of Kutch is that they apparently attempted to build sea walls to keep the rising water out. These are huge walls 40 or 50 feet tall running for dozens of miles. They knew the water was rising and tried to delay it’s submerging their city.
@ Bunk X:
What I meant was, they probably kept a record of who screwed whom and who owed whom for the screwing.
@ Bunk X:
It was not advance like us, but more advanced than what came after.
@ doriangrey:
Hence the legend of a flood or sinking of Atlantis. There definitely was some Catastrophic event 7,000 -- 10,000 years ago that set humanity back.
Bunk X wrote:
There are some suggestions that the Hindu Veda’s are exactly that, an attempt my the pre-Indus Valley Civilization to maintain a record of their civilization in spoken form.
While all indications are that the pre-Indus Valley Civilization did in fact have a written language, it seems evident that in the mad rush to avoid being submerged or for what ever other reason, the knowledge of that language was lost. There are plenty of artifacts with that written language on it, just nobody knows how to translate it.
@ doriangrey:
Sanskirt is a direct descendant of that language. The Mahabharata and Ramanya are the historical tales of that previous advanced civilization.
Rodan wrote:
Like I said, I seriously doubt it was a Catastrophic event, it was something that they saw coming, there was just nothing they could do about it. Their cities were gigantic and had taken thousands of years to build. They had an advanced technology to be sure, advanced in the sense that Egypt or Rome were advanced, but not advanced in the sense that they had not developed a mechanized or industrialized civilization.
@ doriangrey:
Related, is that poetry was invented as a mnemonic device to ensure future generations would have no idea what a “ring o’ rosies” meant.
@ Rodan:
Oh, and “sanskirt” is the creation of the pron industry. It’s Latin.
Rodan wrote:
Maybe the spoken languages are related, but definitely not the written languages. The written language looks to my untrained eye like a combination of ancient Nordic Runes and Egyptian Hieroglyphs.
@ doriangrey:
Looks a bit like Sumerian cuneiform as well.
The Osprey wrote:
The Harappan Civilization, which followed the pre-Indus Valley Civilization, and are most likely the descendants of the pre-Indus Valley Civilization, had a civilization that covered over 1 million square miles of territory. They were eventually conquered by the Aryan/Persians.
What does not seem to be in doubt though is that the pre-Indus Valley Civilization was a maritime merchant civilization that most likely had merchant contact with the early Sumerian Civilization. Though the pre-Indus Valley Civilization was already a fully mature civilization while the Sumerian and Mesopotamian Civilizations were very young civilizations.
My uneducated guess is that the pre-Indus Valley Civilizations written language influenced the other later civilizations written languages. Which is why there seem to be resemblances to the characters in the pre-Indus Valley Civilizations written languages to languages we know more about today.
@ doriangrey:
Could have been. We still haven’t translated the Elamites’ first two go-’rounds with the literacy thing. And various linguists are trying to link the third Elamite language (which we CAN read) with the Harappans with the Dravidians (which is still spoken in India).
If we can ever read the first Elamite languages, maybe some of these questions will get answered…
Zimriel wrote:
Well their certainly does seem to be a resemblance to the first Elamite languages and the pre-Indus Valley Civilizations written language. Given that the earliest Elamite languages are from around 2600 BC and the pre-Indus Valley Civilization cities found in the Gulf of Kutch are from around 7500 BC or very probably far earlier 9500 BC to maybe 12,000 BC my guess is that the first Elamite languages were likely also influenced by the pre-Indus Valley civilization.