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Forty-five years ago today – The Six Day War

by Speranza ( 230 Comments › )
Filed under History, Israel at June 5th, 2012 - 3:00 pm

I am not going to go into the story behind The Six Day War (June 5 -10, 1967) since the documentary covers it nicely. Suffice to say the war broke out not because of the “occupied territories” since the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and Old City of Jerusalem were all under complete Arab control. The “occupied territories” were Israel itself.

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMNxXmOdQus

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230 Responses to “Forty-five years ago today – The Six Day War”
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  1. 1 | June 5, 2012 3:05 pm

    Israel should have driven out the Palis, just like the Red Army drove out ethnic Germans from eastern Europe. The loser must pay consequences.


  2. heysoos
    2 | June 5, 2012 3:12 pm

    that was a hell of a fight, one for the books


  3. 3 | June 5, 2012 3:18 pm

    @ heysoos:

    The 6 Day War ranks alongside Lepanto and Vienna as one of Islam’s biggest defeats.


  4. 4 | June 5, 2012 3:19 pm

    ששת הימים, כלבה!


  5. heysoos
    5 | June 5, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ Rodan:
    and Yom Kippur, another thrashing…oh well, that’s the will of allah


  6. 6 | June 5, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Allah really doesn’t like Mohammedans. That’s why he makes Mohammedan countries such hell-holes. Not to mention the tsunamis, earth-quakes, and general pestilence that afflicts the Mohammedan world…


  7. heysoos
    7 | June 5, 2012 3:26 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Allah really doesn’t like Mohammedans. That’s why he makes Mohammedan countries such hell-holes. Not to mention the tsunamis, earth-quakes, and general pestilence that afflicts the Mohammedan world…

    I’m thinkin there’s something to that…seems like Muslims hate each other more than they hate us


  8. 8 | June 5, 2012 3:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    The 6 Day War ranks alongside Lepanto and Vienna as one of Islam’s biggest defeats.

    And the civilized world applauded them! It’s a perfect, and poignant example as to how much unfortunate change has come to our world.


  9. heysoos
    9 | June 5, 2012 3:32 pm

    seems like Muslim/Arabs have a crazy, zealous style of fighting…they drive tanks like they’re riding horses…fly away from the enemy in their top of the line Russian planes…no fire and maneuver, they charge you head on with banners whipping in the breeze…cannot exploit terrain, numbers or a breakthrough….it’s like they just want to scare you to death, rather than actually you know, fight


  10. m
    10 | June 5, 2012 3:33 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Not anymore. Now the loser just picks up a protest sign (or in the case of the paleos a bomb vest) and whines about being opppressssssssssed. Next thing you know – the world wants them compensated.

    It’s fucked up.


  11. citizen_q
    11 | June 5, 2012 3:34 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Allah really doesn’t like Mohammedans. That’s why he makes Mohammedan countries such hell-holes. Not to mention the tsunamis, earth-quakes, and general pestilence that afflicts the Mohammedan world…

    Allah (piss be upon it) hates and despises humans, but he especially hates muslims so that he has saddled his slaves with an ideology so heinous, so miserable even to those who faithfully follow it wish for death to be released from it.


  12. 12 | June 5, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ citizen_q:

    Allah is pretty much the receptacle for Mulims’ self-loathing. What a sad, joyless existence.


  13. m
    13 | June 5, 2012 3:42 pm

    Newsbusted: White House Unveils New Term “Jobs Saved or Imagined”

    Don’t give them any ideas!!


  14. 14 | June 5, 2012 3:43 pm

    @ m:

    These are the people who think everybody needs 99 weeks of funemployment. After which you no longer count. So vote Democrat, and get a low-paid vacation…


  15. RIX
    15 | June 5, 2012 3:50 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Pelosi thinks that unemployment is a good time to
    take up art.
    Apparently she & BHO want to create a lot of artists.


  16. 16 | June 5, 2012 3:51 pm

    Oh, this is going to be nice to watch while I eat dinner tonight! After voting for Keith Judd for the Democratic nominee.


  17. 17 | June 5, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ RIX:

    They are popular in the artist community… 8O


  18. m
    18 | June 5, 2012 3:54 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yeah.

    Vote Dem – give government the responsibility!
    Vote Dem – government knows best!

    (ugh, that wasn’t even fun to type)


  19. 20 | June 5, 2012 3:55 pm

    @ m:

    Cease Independant Thought! Vote Democrat!

    War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Obama 2012….


  20. heysoos
    21 | June 5, 2012 3:55 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    as in liberal heaven, Santa Fe, where artists are going broke and eating each other for brunch


  21. heysoos
    22 | June 5, 2012 3:58 pm

    @ m:
    I have more respect for the Mafia than the UN


  22. Lily
    23 | June 5, 2012 3:58 pm

    m wrote:

    Alabama Adopts First Official State Ban on UN Agenda 21

    I wonder how many other states will follow. This is one thing the msm has not reported on at all. I am sure most Americans do not know anything about UN Agenda 21.


  23. RIX
    24 | June 5, 2012 3:59 pm

    WLS Radio in Chicago is reporting that a substantial
    number of private sector union members are breaking
    bad on public sector members & voting for Walker.


  24. Lily
    25 | June 5, 2012 4:03 pm

    Good grief..a mass seance to cleanse the Capitol? This is just insane. Plus it didn’t work didn’t the DOJ still show up?

    Wisconsin: Liberals Hold Mass Séance To Cleanse Capitol of Negative Energy Before Recall Election…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/05/wisconsin-liberals-hold-mass-seance-to-cleanse-capitol-of-negative-energy-before-recall-election/


  25. Speranza
    26 | June 5, 2012 4:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Israel should have driven out the Palis, just like the Red Army drove out ethnic Germans from eastern Europe. The loser must pay consequences.

    They had their opportunity but decided to be humane. He who is merciful to the cruel will become cruel to the merciful.


  26. Speranza
    27 | June 5, 2012 4:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    The 6 Day War ranks alongside Lepanto and Vienna as one of Islam’s biggest defeats.

    It was a defeat for the USSR but the Russkies quickly recovered from it. Their fascist ally Nasser also recovered.


  27. Lily
    28 | June 5, 2012 4:05 pm

    RIX wrote:

    WLS Radio in Chicago is reporting that a substantial
    number of private sector union members are breaking
    bad on public sector members & voting for Walker.

    I honestly don’t doubt this at all. Union members and union leaders two seperate things.


  28. Speranza
    29 | June 5, 2012 4:06 pm

    m wrote:

    Newsbusted: White House Unveils New Term “Jobs Saved or Imagined”
    Don’t give them any ideas!!

    They used “jobs saved” a couple of years ago and dropped it after people laughed at it. If you have the same job you had back in January 2009 I guess that could count as a “job saved”.


  29. Speranza
    30 | June 5, 2012 4:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    WLS Radio in Chicago is reporting that a substantial
    number of private sector union members are breaking
    bad on public sector members & voting for Walker.

    A lot of union members defy their so called leaders and vote their conscience.


  30. Speranza
    31 | June 5, 2012 4:09 pm

    m wrote:

    Alabama Adopts First Official State Ban on UN Agenda 21

    One-worlders at The New York Times in mourning.


  31. Lily
    32 | June 5, 2012 4:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    WLS Radio in Chicago is reporting that a substantial
    number of private sector union members are breaking
    bad on public sector members & voting for Walker.

    A lot of union members defy their so called leaders and vote their conscience.

    They know the union leaders are crooked and can’t get them out they are entrenched like kudzo vines…the only reason they pay their dues is to hang on to their jobs.


  32. Speranza
    33 | June 5, 2012 4:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I honestly don’t doubt this at all. Union members and union leaders two seperate things.

    In 1980 and 1972 union members went for Reagan and Nixon.


  33. Speranza
    34 | June 5, 2012 4:11 pm

    Lily wrote:

    They know the union leaders are crooked and can’t get them out they are entrenched like kudzo vines…the only reason they pay their dues is to hang on to their jobs.

    There also is a lot of “closet conservatives” who as you say, want to hang onto their jobs so they let their bosses think they are liberals but once they get into the polling booth vote the way they really want to. Sort of like surviving in academia.


  34. Lily
    35 | June 5, 2012 4:11 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    I honestly don’t doubt this at all. Union members and union leaders two seperate things.

    In 1980 and 1972 union members went for Reagan and Nixon.

    They are typically conservative. What the union leaders say does not represent the members. But all you hear are what the union leaders are saying …. nothing about how the members feel.


  35. RIX
    36 | June 5, 2012 4:12 pm

    @ Lily:
    Hmmm, was there an obese, washed up hippy
    from Culver City there?
    He may have wanted to visit the state where the cheddar
    comes from for Cheetos.


  36. Lily
    37 | June 5, 2012 4:13 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    They know the union leaders are crooked and can’t get them out they are entrenched like kudzo vines…the only reason they pay their dues is to hang on to their jobs.

    There also is a lot of “closet conservatives” who as you say, want to hang onto their jobs so they let their bosses think they are liberals but once they get into the polling booth vote the way they really want to. Sort of like surviving in academia.

    Exactly.


  37. 38 | June 5, 2012 4:13 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ m:
    I have more respect for the Mafia than the UN

    Which is why I thoroughly enjoy playing Mafia Wars!


  38. Lily
    39 | June 5, 2012 4:14 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Hmmm, was there an obese, washed up hippy
    from Culver City there?
    He may have wanted to visit the state where the cheddar
    comes from for Cheetos.

    Now there is a thought. ;)


  39. Speranza
    40 | June 5, 2012 4:14 pm

    Back on topic – Levi Eshkol who was Prime Minister of Israel from 1963 until his death in 1969 was in my opinion Israel’s most successful Prime Minister.


  40. buzzsawmonkey
    41 | June 5, 2012 4:14 pm

    The Mosque Upon the Mount

    Mohammed rode the night horse, or so the Korans say
    Mohammed rode the night horse to a mosque so far away
    And his followers the Muslims, coming after his death, claim
    That the mosque upon the Mount is the mosque the Koran names.

    Never mind the mosque upon the Mount was never even there
    At the time Mohammed—so they claim—took his ride in the air.
    Never mind the mosque upon the Mount was built in later days—
    Mere factual reality did ne’er a Muslim faze.

    Broadcast on Al-jazeera, in the seething Arab street,
    Are echoed calls to Muslims that they must not retreat
    That they must not cede unto the Jews they hold of no account
    Possession of the Mountain and the mosque upon the Mount.

    The Muslims lost the mosque and lost the Mount on which it stands
    A foolish choice was made then that it stay within their hands
    And feverishly ever they work so as to erase
    The record of the Temple there—which must take pride of place.

    The world stands by complacent at the Mount destruction news—
    When cared the nations for the holy places of the Jews?
    But bad though the nations’ silence be, the silence that is worse
    Is that of Jews who stand by as the destruction occurs.

    Why should a people conquered justly through the force of arms
    Be permitted to retain a symbol that does lasting harm?
    Why should the conquered be allowed to rule the Temple Mount
    And by this hold their conquerors to be of no account?

    The mosque upon the Mount is beautiful, or so they say
    But like the earlier Temple, it also may pass away—
    The mosque was built to show who’d conquered many years ago;
    The reason it was raised is also why it now must go.

    O Jews, who claim Jerusalem is still your capital
    How can you claim this when the Mountain still remains in thrall?
    It is in thrall by your consent. Jerusalem will be
    Your capital united when the Mount has been set free.


  41. Speranza
    42 | June 5, 2012 4:15 pm

    @ Lily:
    I’ve met several professors who are conservative but do not advertise it because they want to make tenure. Yet they vote Republican all the time.


  42. 43 | June 5, 2012 4:15 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    The 6 Day War ranks alongside Lepanto and Vienna as one of Islam’s biggest defeats.

    It was a defeat for the USSR but the Russkies quickly recovered from it. Their fascist ally Nasser also recovered.

    Only to have Nasser die on them less than three years later. Then Sadat knew the score and kicked the Soviets’ asses OUT.


  43. RIX
    44 | June 5, 2012 4:15 pm

    @ Speranza:

    A lot of union members defy their so called leaders and vote their conscience

    .

    I seriously know quite few union Republicans.
    My father in law was a local president & always
    voted straight ticket Republican.


  44. EBL
    45 | June 5, 2012 4:15 pm

    Wow. Seventy years ago today Midway. But the six day war, I forgot about it being now. I am doing a post on this. Thanks for the heads up.


  45. 46 | June 5, 2012 4:16 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Is this something you came up with?


  46. 47 | June 5, 2012 4:17 pm

    @ m:

    Yeah ask the Serbs. They were kicking Muzzie ass and got bombed for it.


  47. buzzsawmonkey
    48 | June 5, 2012 4:18 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Is this something you came up with?

    I wrote that back at Mad King Yertle’s, several years ago.


  48. 49 | June 5, 2012 4:19 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Exactly. The Israelis should have sent them packing. Now they are dealing with the consequences of being humane.


  49. Speranza
    50 | June 5, 2012 4:19 pm

    EBL wrote:

    Wow. Seventy years ago today Midway. But the six day war, I forgot about it being now. I am doing a post on this. Thanks for the heads up.

    And tomorrow is the 68th anniversary of D-Day and the 44th anniversary of the RFK assassination.


  50. buzzsawmonkey
    51 | June 5, 2012 4:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Now they are dealing with the consequences of being humane.

    The lesson of Shabbos Zachor and Purim—since tradition has it that Saul’s sparing of King Agag of the Amalekites enabled him to sire an heir who was the ancestor of Haman.


  51. Speranza
    52 | June 5, 2012 4:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Exactly. The Israelis should have sent them packing. Now they are dealing with the consequences of being humane.

    A huge mistake but I still say that the Six Day War was Israel and the Jewish peoples finest hour.


  52. heysoos
    53 | June 5, 2012 4:21 pm

    EBL wrote:

    Wow. Seventy years ago today Midway. But the six day war, I forgot about it being now. I am doing a post on this. Thanks for the heads up.

    spring is good fightin’ weather


  53. buzzsawmonkey
    54 | June 5, 2012 4:22 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    And tomorrow is the 68th anniversary of D-Day and the 44th anniversary of the RFK assassination.

    June is bustin’ out all over!


  54. Speranza
    55 | June 5, 2012 4:22 pm

    Compare and contrast the media’s (if you are old enough) treatment of Israel during the Six Day War and its aftermath as opposed to the demonization now. Now the Palestinians are considered to be the underdogs.


  55. Speranza
    57 | June 5, 2012 4:23 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    And tomorrow is the 68th anniversary of D-Day and the 44th anniversary of the RFK assassination.

    June is bustin’ out all over!

    June 22 is the 71st anniversary of the greatest war ever fought – Operation Barbarossa – the Nazi invasion of the U.S.S.R.


  56. Speranza
    58 | June 5, 2012 4:24 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Umm if they’re not Wisconsin residents I hope they are not being allowed to vote.


  57. heysoos
    59 | June 5, 2012 4:26 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    Exactly. The Israelis should have sent them packing. Now they are dealing with the consequences of being humane.

    A huge mistake but I still say that the Six Day War was Israel and the Jewish peoples finest hour.

    I think the Yom Kippur War was a more close run thing….the IDF was reeling when the Syrian tankers mysteriously halted in top of the Golan Heights…meanwhile as IDF reserved raced to the ridges, their few remaining tanks shot the Syrians asses off, silhouetted on the higher ground….WTF…they had the whole river valley and roadways there for the taking…those few hours right there iced it for Israel


  58. m
    60 | June 5, 2012 4:26 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Oh that was great. Sad and true. But great.


  59. m
    61 | June 5, 2012 4:27 pm

    @ EBL:

    Twittered and facebooked. Thanks.


  60. Speranza
    62 | June 5, 2012 4:28 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I think the Yom Kippur War was a more close run thing….the IDF was reeling when the Syrian tankers mysteriously halted in top of the Golan Heights…meanwhile as IDF reserved raced to the ridges, their few remaining tanks shot the Syrians asses off, silhouetted on the higher ground….WTF…they had the whole river valley and roadways there for the taking…those few hours right there iced it for Israel

    The Yom Kippur War was an Israeli victory which for some reason seems to have gone down in the books as a draw.


  61. 63 | June 5, 2012 4:29 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Umm if they’re not Wisconsin residents I hope they are not being allowed to vote.

    I’m too cynical to even hold out that hope…..


  62. Speranza
    64 | June 5, 2012 4:30 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    “The Chicago Way”.


  63. RIX
    65 | June 5, 2012 4:31 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    I’m sure that they are all coming in to catch
    a Brewers game & go to the Packers museum.
    You didn’t think that they were there to steal
    an election, did you?


  64. 67 | June 5, 2012 4:33 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    I’m sure that they are all coming in to catch
    a Brewers game & go to the Packers museum.
    You didn’t think that they were there to steal
    an election, did you?

    I understand Wisconsin is lovely this time of year”…… :|


  65. Speranza
    68 | June 5, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ EBL:
    Very good video – I have seen it before.


  66. Speranza
    69 | June 5, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    When I think of vacation – Wisconsin is always near the top of the list. /


  67. RIX
    70 | June 5, 2012 4:35 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Umm if they’re not Wisconsin residents I hope they are not being

    allowed to vote.

    Wisconsin is same day registration. I swoop in & give them
    my name & some address & you vouch for me.
    That’s it, I can vote.


  68. Speranza
    71 | June 5, 2012 4:35 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Pelosi thinks that unemployment is a good time to
    take up art.
    Apparently she & BHO want to create a lot of artists.

    She thinks food stamps create jobs.


  69. heysoos
    72 | June 5, 2012 4:36 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I think the Yom Kippur War was a more close run thing….the IDF was reeling when the Syrian tankers mysteriously halted in top of the Golan Heights…meanwhile as IDF reserved raced to the ridges, their few remaining tanks shot the Syrians asses off, silhouetted on the higher ground….WTF…they had the whole river valley and roadways there for the taking…those few hours right there iced it for Israel
    The Yom Kippur War was an Israeli victory which for some reason seems to have gone down in the books as a draw.

    maybe…had the IDF annihilated Egypts Third Army in the Sinai, that sure would have broken the tie, eh?


  70. Lily
    73 | June 5, 2012 4:36 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Wisconsin Democrats Are Busing in Supporters From Minnesota for Recall Vote (Video) …Update: Michigan Too!

    I wonder if this is a pre-veiw of what November is going to be like.


  71. Speranza
    74 | June 5, 2012 4:37 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Wisconsin is same day registration. I swoop in & give them
    my name & some address & you vouch for me.
    That’s it, I can vote.

    It makes Chicago seem strict because there you have to be dead at least a year before you can vote.


  72. Speranza
    75 | June 5, 2012 4:38 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    maybe…had the IDF annihilated Egypts Third Army in the Sinai, that sure would have broken the tie, eh?

    You can thank Henry Kissinger for that.


  73. RIX
    76 | June 5, 2012 4:38 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    I’m sure that they are all coming in to catch
    a Brewers game & go to the Packers museum.
    You didn’t think that they were there to steal
    an election, did you?
    I understand Wisconsin is lovely this time of year”……

    Actually Door County is a great destination, but I
    don’t think that these guys left Minnesotta for a fish
    boil.
    There has to be another reason, what could it be?


  74. Lily
    77 | June 5, 2012 4:39 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    And tomorrow is the 68th anniversary of D-Day and the 44th anniversary of the RFK assassination.

    June is bustin’ out all over!

    June 22 is the 71st anniversary of the greatest war ever fought – Operation Barbarossa – the Nazi invasion of the U.S.S.R.

    Lots of historical dates in June. Operation
    Barbarossa—Hitler’s ego on parade and thankfully a huge mistake.


  75. heysoos
    78 | June 5, 2012 4:41 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    maybe…had the IDF annihilated Egypts Third Army in the Sinai, that sure would have broken the tie, eh?
    You can thank Henry Kissinger for that.

    I do…it was the right choice…it would have literally been murder


  76. 79 | June 5, 2012 4:41 pm

    Lily wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Wisconsin Democrats Are Busing in Supporters From Minnesota for Recall Vote (Video) …Update: Michigan Too!

    I wonder if this is a pre-veiw of what November is going to be like.

    No doubt. Asking for ID is just like the Holocaust, dontcha know.


  77. Lily
    80 | June 5, 2012 4:43 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Pelosi thinks that unemployment is a good time to
    take up art.
    Apparently she & BHO want to create a lot of artists.

    She thinks food stamps create jobs.

    This coming from a woman who has millions and millions of dollars. She is sooooo out of touch with reality she should never be able to comment on people who are on food stamps or unemployment. She is a disgusting wrench.
    But if I remember correctly it’s people on unemployment who should use their checks to create small businesses. How they are going to do that heaven only knows.


  78. Lily
    81 | June 5, 2012 4:46 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Wisconsin Democrats Are Busing in Supporters From Minnesota for Recall Vote (Video) …Update: Michigan Too!

    I wonder if this is a pre-veiw of what November is going to be like.

    No doubt. Asking for ID is just like the Holocaust, dontcha know.

    Just like the Holocaust..what a disgrace. They throw these words around and demean the meaning of them.
    We here in Louisiana have always had to show I.D. to vote for as long as I remember..but read in the paper just recently the DOJ is coming after Louisiana for their voter I.D. laws.


  79. RIX
    82 | June 5, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Pelosi is hands down the dumbest woman in
    North America.


  80. Speranza
    83 | June 5, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ Lily:
    Putting aside her San Francisco left wing politics – she is incredibly stupid.


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    84 | June 5, 2012 4:47 pm

    Lily wrote:

    But if I remember correctly it’s people on unemployment who should use their checks to create small businesses. How they are going to do that heaven only knows.

    You buy one loose joint, and sell hits off it. With the money from that you buy two loose joints, and repeat the process. Once you’ve got enough money from that, you buy a quarter-pound of pot, roll loose joints, and sell those. With the money you raise from this, you buy a kilo…and so forth.

    Then you get busted, go to jail, and live off the system entirely for a while. Once you are released, start from the beginning again.


  82. 85 | June 5, 2012 4:47 pm

    This may be common in that area, but a news show in Madison, WI referred to a building called the “Labor Temple”. That’s just so friggin’ wrong on so many levels.


  83. Speranza
    86 | June 5, 2012 4:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Pelosi is hands down the dumbest woman in
    North America.

    Only Patty Murray can give her a run for her money as being the dumbest woman on Capital Hill.


  84. RIX
    87 | June 5, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ Speranza:

    It makes Chicago seem strict because there you have to be dead at least a year before you can vote.

    Just being life force challenged is no reason to
    not do ones civic duty.


  85. RIX
    88 | June 5, 2012 4:50 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Pelosi is hands down the dumbest woman in
    North America.
    Only Patty Murray can give her a run for her money as being the dumbest woman on Capital Hill.

    I hear ya, but I think that Sheila Jackson Lee is
    a tough competitor.


  86. Lily
    89 | June 5, 2012 4:55 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Putting aside her San Francisco left wing politics – she is incredibly stupid.

    She should retire. That would be a happy day for us all.
    “We have to pass the healthcare bill first before we know what’s in it” will go down in history as the most stupidest comment ever…Oh wait…there is the “I’m worried with more people put on Guam it might tip over” …there is so much stupid going on that it will give me a headache if I start to list all the stupid things said by these stupid people who are supposed to leading this country.


  87. RIX
    90 | June 5, 2012 4:55 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    This may be common in that area, but a news show in Madison, WI referred to a building called the “Labor Temple”. That’s just so friggin’ wrong on so many levels.

    That’s what they call them in the Badger State.
    As a yoot, I acquired a labor client with “temples”
    all over the state.
    I did one night meeting in the dead of Winter,
    so far North I was picking up the CBC. Good times!


  88. Lily
    91 | June 5, 2012 4:56 pm

    @ Lily:

    Oh and Joe Biden’s three letter word…. J-O-B-S.
    /idiot


  89. Lily
    92 | June 5, 2012 4:57 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Pelosi is hands down the dumbest woman in
    North America.
    Only Patty Murray can give her a run for her money as being the dumbest woman on Capital Hill.

    I hear ya, but I think that Sheila Jackson Lee is
    a tough competitor.

    A lot of contenders for that title. Too many.


  90. heysoos
    93 | June 5, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ Lily:
    if she retires, she’ll lose her inside trading mole


  91. Lily
    94 | June 5, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Sounds like a winning plan there! :lol:


  92. Lily
    95 | June 5, 2012 4:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    if she retires, she’ll lose her inside trading mole

    She needs to be voted out…but coming from San Francisco ..that is highly unlikely.


  93. buzzsawmonkey
    96 | June 5, 2012 5:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I hear ya, but I think that Sheila Jackson Lee is
    a tough competitor.

    If Sheila Jackson Lee loses the “stupid” contest, she can take on Henry Waxman for the Nostril Championship.


  94. heysoos
    97 | June 5, 2012 5:01 pm

    Buzz..as per #41
    not bad for a moldy fig


  95. RIX
    98 | June 5, 2012 5:01 pm

    @ Lily:

    A lot of contenders for that title. Too many.

    The other day Pelosi said that ObamaCare will be
    totally upheld by the Court.
    How does she know?
    Wait for it,
    “Because I understand the Consitution!!!!!!”
    Stop it, you’re killin me!


  96. 99 | June 5, 2012 5:03 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    I hear ya, but I think that Sheila Jackson Lee is
    a tough competitor.

    If Sheila Jackson Lee loses the “stupid” contest, she can take on Henry Waxman for the Nostril Championship.

    Oh nose!


  97. Lily
    100 | June 5, 2012 5:03 pm

    Wait we have another contender for the most stupid woman….

    Dumb: Senate Dem Claire McCaskill Accuses GOP Opponent Of Being Sexist – Dumber: Republican Opponent Is A Woman

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/05/dumb-senate-dem-claire-mccaskill-accuses-gop-opponent-of-being-sexist-dumber-republican-challenger-is-a-woman/


  98. huckfunn
    101 | June 5, 2012 5:05 pm

    GOOD NEWS: GOP defeats Paycheck Fairness Act in Senate. This was just one more marxist bill of wealth redistribution as well as a new field of litigation for trial lawyers. The dem senators are apparently the worst offenders at paying women less than men. There was a chart of that the other day.


  99. Lily
    102 | June 5, 2012 5:05 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    A lot of contenders for that title. Too many.

    The other day Pelosi said that ObamaCare will be
    totally upheld by the Court.
    How does she know?
    Wait for it,
    “Because I understand the Consitution!!!!!!”
    Stop it, you’re killin me!

    I know! I asked my husband does Nancy Pelosi and understanding the Constitution in the same sentence make any sense…
    “Oh HELL NO!” was his reply.


  100. RIX
    103 | June 5, 2012 5:10 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    I hear ya, but I think that Sheila Jackson Lee is
    a tough competitor.
    If Sheila Jackson Lee loses the “stupid” contest, she can take on Henry Waxman for the Nostril Championship.

    Oh man , now that’s a mental image.
    Have you noticed that when Sheila Jackson Lee puts
    her hair up & wraps those beads around it, it’s like
    the hair leads a life of its own?
    Seriously, it just moves around at will.


  101. RIX
    104 | June 5, 2012 5:11 pm

    @ Lily:

    I know! I asked my husband does Nancy Pelosi and understanding the Constitution in the same sentence make any sense…
    “Oh HELL NO!” was his reply.

    Pelosi needs three trys to spell her own name right.


  102. Lily
    105 | June 5, 2012 5:13 pm

    This is nothing short of disgusting…I would tell him head on down here and I’ll even give a discount..just happen to have rental house up for rent at the moment.

    Mass: Anti-War Leftist Refuses To Rent Apartment To Man Because He’s A Veteran Of Iraq And Afghanistan Wars…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/05/mass-anti-war-leftist-refuses-to-rent-apartment-to-man-because-hes-a-veteran-of-iraq-and-afghanistan-wars/


  103. Lily
    106 | June 5, 2012 5:15 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I know! I asked my husband does Nancy Pelosi and understanding the Constitution in the same sentence make any sense…
    “Oh HELL NO!” was his reply.

    Pelosi needs three trys to spell her own name right.

    I wonder what color crayon she uses…or is it one of those rainbow colored crayons?


  104. 107 | June 5, 2012 5:18 pm

    The Democrat Caucus has looked like the bar science from Star Wars for some time now. I just saw WI Dem Congressthing Gwen Moore….holy friggin crap.


  105. RIX
    108 | June 5, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ Lily:
    I saw this, this morning. Landlady Janice Roberts is 63
    years old, which tells me that she misses Saigon.
    Hating on Viet vets was totally acceptable.
    Things are different now, we recognise these guys
    as heroes.
    Janice should just spend some serious time with her
    bong complaining about LBJ.


  106. 109 | June 5, 2012 5:22 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I know! I asked my husband does Nancy Pelosi and understanding the Constitution in the same sentence make any sense…
    “Oh HELL NO!” was his reply.

    Ah, but she does understand the Constitution as a living, breathing document. So there!

    //////////


  107. buzzsawmonkey
    110 | June 5, 2012 5:23 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Janice should just spend some serious time with her
    bong complaining about LBJ.

    Be fun, though, to freak her out by dusting off one of the old LBJ campaign buttons from the 1964 election that said, “Bury Barry.”

    I wonder what would happen to somebody wearing one now.


  108. RIX
    111 | June 5, 2012 5:23 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    The Democrat Caucus has looked like the bar science from Star Wars for some time now. I just saw WI Dem Congressthing Gwen Moore….holy friggin crap.

    That’s right man, Debbie Wasserman Schultze is the
    pretty one,/


  109. buzzsawmonkey
    112 | June 5, 2012 5:24 pm

    Macker wrote:

    the Constitution as a living, breathing document

    Omigod! The Return of the Creature From Independence Hall!


  110. 113 | June 5, 2012 5:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    This is nothing short of disgusting…I would tell him head on down here and I’ll even give a discount..just happen to have rental house up for rent at the moment.

    Mass: Anti-War Leftist Refuses To Rent Apartment To Man Because He’s A Veteran Of Iraq And Afghanistan Wars…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/05/mass-anti-war-leftist-refuses-to-rent-apartment-to-man-because-hes-a-veteran-of-iraq-and-afghanistan-wars/

    How in the bloody hell is this even CLOSE to being legal? You couldn’t refuse him on the basis of race or religion! GAWD THIS IS INFURIATING!


  111. RIX
    114 | June 5, 2012 5:26 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Be fun, though, to freak her out by dusting off one of the old LBJ campaign buttons from the 1964 election that said, “Bury Barry.”

    I wonder what would happen to somebody wearing one now.

    The times they are a chnagin & Janice did not
    get the memo.


  112. buzzsawmonkey
    115 | June 5, 2012 5:28 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    How in the bloody hell is this even CLOSE to being legal? You couldn’t refuse him on the basis of race or religion!

    Bet she’d rent to Bradley Manning, if she could—and give him a welcome basket of muffins.


  113. Lily
    116 | June 5, 2012 5:30 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    It really isn’t legal at all. As a landlord I’d welcome this type of renter. We actually had someone say to us, ‘we need a job to rent the house?? And in the same breath can you hold it for us we don’t have any money yet?’
    What we do is say we are taking applications.


  114. RIX
    117 | June 5, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ Lily:

    I wonder what color crayon she uses…or is it one of those rainbow colored crayons?

    You know Pelosi is so stupid, that it’s almost
    too easy.
    Let me redeem myself, Charles Johnson is a big, fat ogre!
    There, now I have regained my maturity.


  115. RIX
    118 | June 5, 2012 5:34 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:
    How in the bloody hell is this even CLOSE to being legal? You couldn’t refuse him on the basis of race or religion!
    Bet she’d rent to Bradley Manning, if she could—and give him a welcome basket of muffins.

    I’ll see that and raise you a Achmed Shabazz Bopshuwop.
    She would be wearing a burqua & would learn to STFU!


  116. Lily
    119 | June 5, 2012 5:34 pm

    @ RIX:

    :lol: :lol:


  117. 120 | June 5, 2012 5:37 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    ROFLMAIAO!


  118. 121 | June 5, 2012 5:38 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Bet she’d rent to Bradley Manning, if she could—and give him a welcome basket of muffins.

    And do you want to bet she likes anal sex to boot!? 8)


  119. Lily
    122 | June 5, 2012 5:39 pm

    Macker wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Bet she’d rent to Bradley Manning, if she could—and give him a welcome basket of muffins.

    And do you want to bet she likes anal sex to boot!?

    Well I’d say she probably thinks its okay…she is 63..she is an aging hippy.


  120. 123 | June 5, 2012 5:39 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    How in the bloody hell is this even CLOSE to being legal? You couldn’t refuse him on the basis of race or religion!

    Bet she’d rent to Bradley Manning, if she could—and give him a welcome basket of muffins.

    As I’ve oft heard it said, “she doesn’t have a different opinion, she’s on the other side”. The level of active treason in this country is stunning.


  121. 124 | June 5, 2012 5:43 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    It really isn’t legal at all. As a landlord I’d welcome this type of renter. We actually had someone say to us, ‘we need a job to rent the house?? And in the same breath can you hold it for us we don’t have any money yet?’
    What we do is say we are taking applications.

    Discrimination, like squelching free speech is just fine with these people as long as it’s against the right people. They really are fascists.


  122. buzzsawmonkey
    125 | June 5, 2012 5:51 pm

    To the tune of “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”:

    Forty-seven years ago today
    Arabs tried to blow Israel away
    But instead, in just a mere six days
    They were defeated every which way
    So let me introduce to you
    From Mount Hermon down to the Dead Sea
    The historical Jewish homeland!

    Israel’s the historic Jewish homeland
    May its people prosper and grow
    It is the historic Jewish homeland
    Given to them by—well, you know
    The historic Jewish
    The historic Jewish
    The historic Jewish homeland
    It’s wonderful to be there, it’s certainly a thrill
    Since the Romans defeated us and sent us in exile, or galus
    It’s so nice to be home!

    Islamist hatred continues to grow
    We have to keep watching for each new blow
    It’s awfully hard to maintain aplomb
    As Iran gets closer to the bomb
    So right now our hopes are riding on
    Prime Minister Netanyahu
    In the historical Jewish homeland…


  123. buzzsawmonkey
    126 | June 5, 2012 5:59 pm

    Of course, having posted that, I just realized that the war was 45 years ago, not 47 years ago.


  124. Lily
    127 | June 5, 2012 6:02 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Excellent buzz! The other one was too. :)


  125. 128 | June 5, 2012 6:04 pm

    Issa: Wiretaps show ‘immense detail’ about questionable Fast & Furious tactics

    Published June 05, 2012

    A House investigative committee said Tuesday it has obtained new information from wiretaps related to the Obama administration’s Operation Fast and Furious that suggests high-ranking officials know more than they are telling Congress about the flawed weapons sting.

    The announcement appears to be the latest attempt by GOP Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, to press U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder into providing Congress with more information about the operation and an account of which officials knew about any problems — and when.

    “The wiretap applications show that immense detail about questionable investigative tactics was available to the senior officials who reviewed and authorized them,” Issa said in a June 5 letter to Holder. “The close involvement of these officials — much greater than previously known — is shocking.”

    The targets of “Fast and Furious” bought nearly 2,000 weapons over several months. For reasons that are still in dispute, most of those weapons were never followed. High-powered weapons tied to the investigation ended up at crime scenes in Mexico and the United States, including the December 2010 murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

    Go read the entire article and watch the video.

    Speaker John Boehnor and Congressman Darryl Issa conspire to Betray America.


  126. heysoos
    129 | June 5, 2012 6:08 pm

    cheers cheers cheers…
    what would you do if I torture a Jew
    would you stand up and walk out on me?
    I’ll chop off your ears,
    while drinking some beers,
    and then I’ll break both of your knees

    whoa, I’ll get by with a little help from my fiends
    your gonna cry with a little help from my fiends
    need to die with a little help from my fiends…
    etc
    @ buzzsawmonkey:


  127. RIX
    130 | June 5, 2012 6:10 pm

    The City Clerk of Madison WI. says that voting
    turnout is on pace to reach 119%!
    This can happen because same day registration can push
    the vote beyond 100% of regsistered voters.
    119%! Anyboby else think that voiter fraud is huge
    in Wisconsin?
    Still, they won’t be able to steal enough.


  128. heysoos
    131 | June 5, 2012 6:11 pm

    RIX wrote:

    The City Clerk of Madison WI. says that voting
    turnout is on pace to reach 119%!
    This can happen because same day registration can push
    the vote beyond 100% of regsistered voters.
    119%! Anyboby else think that voiter fraud is huge
    in Wisconsin?
    Still, they won’t be able to steal enough.

    darn it, I have trouble staying interested…like, so what?


  129. Lily
    132 | June 5, 2012 6:14 pm

    RIX wrote:

    The City Clerk of Madison WI. says that voting
    turnout is on pace to reach 119%!
    This can happen because same day registration can push
    the vote beyond 100% of regsistered voters.
    119%! Anyboby else think that voiter fraud is huge
    in Wisconsin?
    Still, they won’t be able to steal enough.

    I think it is a big deal. I think voter fraud is huge in Wisconsin and is a bellweather to what will happen in November.


  130. RIX
    133 | June 5, 2012 6:20 pm

    @ heysoos:
    What Lilly said. A loss here & BHO has to defend Wisconsin
    & maybe even lose it.


  131. heysoos
    134 | June 5, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ RIX:
    I keep up, I’m just not moved….I’m not so sure Romney in the WH with congress in his pocket is such a good thing…WHAT?


  132. Lily
    135 | June 5, 2012 6:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    What Lilly said. A loss here & BHO has to defend Wisconsin
    & maybe even lose it.

    Also in the mix I think if Walker wins and the reaction to it tomorrow will tell the story..I’m hearing that if Walker wins there will be violence tomorrow. I think Wisconsin is the testing ground for November.


  133. Lily
    136 | June 5, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ heysoos:

    And another 4 years of obama will be just terrific!
    /NOT!


  134. RIX
    137 | June 5, 2012 6:24 pm

    Before I leave I just want to tell you that if Walker
    loses tonight. Obama willl resign admitting that he is
    an incompetent fraud.
    I want to tell you that but alas, it’s not true,
    See ya.


  135. RIX
    138 | June 5, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ RIX:
    Doh! I mean if Walker WINS!


  136. heysoos
    139 | June 5, 2012 6:26 pm

    @ Lily:
    that’s my dilemma…actually I cannot stand Romney, but the alternative is worse…and it’s really not so much Romney as the GOP elites….these cats are poison


  137. Lily
    140 | June 5, 2012 6:27 pm

    @ RIX:

    Keyboards…I tell ya they are at war with us!~ ;)


  138. RIX
    141 | June 5, 2012 6:28 pm

    @ Lily:

    Also in the mix I think if Walker wins and the reaction to it tomorrow will tell the story..I’m hearing that if Walker wins there will be violence tomorrow. I think Wisconsin is the testing ground for November.

    I am not pulling for violence, but it would work against
    Obama. His shock troops.


  139. Speranza
    142 | June 5, 2012 6:29 pm

    @ Lily:
    Let them start violence – it will cost them big in November. This is not 1968.


  140. RIX
    143 | June 5, 2012 6:29 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Keyboards…I tell ya they are at war with us!~

    Tell be about it.
    Hot damn! Just heard the dinner bell, see ya.


  141. Speranza
    144 | June 5, 2012 6:30 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I keep up, I’m just not moved….I’m not so sure Romney in the WH with congress in his pocket is such a good thing…WHAT?

    Congress in his pocket? No way – congress is loaded with folks who are not convinced he is much of a conservative. Anyone is better then Obama.


  142. Speranza
    145 | June 5, 2012 6:32 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    maybe…had the IDF annihilated Egypts Third Army in the Sinai, that sure would have broken the tie, eh?
    You can thank Henry Kissinger for that.

    I do…it was the right choice…it would have literally been murder

    No it would have been war – therefore should our slaughter of the German Army at the Falaise Gap then be considered to be murder? Also it would have been ok for the Egyptian Army to slaughter the Israeli army???


  143. Lily
    146 | June 5, 2012 6:33 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Poision compared to obama? I think obama is pure poision to be honest.
    I also think Romney will do a hell of a lot better than a lot of people think he will.
    Obama is dystroying us. Sorry I’ll take Romney any day over obama.

    God night in Georgia Romney actually believes in our constitution.
    Obama wishes our country were more like China.

    I see NO dilemma at all.


  144. heysoos
    147 | June 5, 2012 6:34 pm

    @ Speranza:
    not sure about hypotheticals, it was what it was…several score of thousands trapped…there was no reason to kill them, and it was right to show mercy…Israel is not just anybody


  145. Lily
    148 | June 5, 2012 6:36 pm

    @ RIX:
    @ Speranza:

    I believe they are using this ‘state’ election as a testing ground.


  146. Speranza
    149 | June 5, 2012 6:40 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    not sure about hypotheticals, it was what it was…several score of thousands trapped…there was no reason to kill them, and it was right to show mercy…Israel is not just anybody

    Yes there is what blogger Meryl Yourish refers to as “Israel Double Standard Time” where Israel is forced to play by different rules. Israel cannot take out Hamas leaders via Apache helicopter hellfire missiles while we of course are allowed to kill al Qaeda via drone strikes. Give me flipping break! Egypt attacked Israel on Yom Kippur – Egypt started the war – Israel had the right if she chose to do so to utterly destroy them.


  147. Guggi
    150 | June 5, 2012 6:42 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Israel cannot take out Hamas leaders via Apache helicopter hellfire missiles while we of course are allowed to kill al Qaeda via drone strikes. Give me flipping break!

    U.S. strike killed al-Qaeda’s No. 2 leader

    A U.S. drone strike has killed al-Qaeda’s second in command, a U.S. official says.

    The death of Abu Yahya al-Libi is a significant blow to the terror network, which has lost a string of top leaders at the hands of the American drone program.


  148. 151 | June 5, 2012 6:44 pm

    @ Lily:

    Romney is an Islamic ass kisser like Obama. I am just voting for him to prove him and the GOP are fraudsters.


  149. heysoos
    152 | June 5, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ Lily:
    if Romney believed in the Constitution he would simply say that all woman have the right to an abortion, no prelims, no violation of stupid state laws, stop burning PP’s, marching, threatening women and move on to the economy…yet he doesn’t…if he believed in the Constitution he would tell his supporters that gays have a right to some legal support regarding marriage or unions and to quit finding fault with atheists…he doesn’t….he should tell his critics to go pound sand concerning Mormonism, he won’t….he has all these fringe issues to deal with and he allows himself to be manipulated in lieu of his personal principle….to grab the POTUS you have to be a whore to your voters, which he is…there is nothing in his long record to show he is his own man….he’s another hooker in a three piece suit…he’s got absolutely nothing for me except he faces BO, who is even worse


  150. 153 | June 5, 2012 6:46 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Israel lets itself play by different rules. If they did what they had to do, no one would do anything.


  151. 154 | June 5, 2012 6:47 pm

    @ heysoos:

    if he believed in the Constitution he would tell his supporters that gays have a right to some legal support regarding marriage

    Where in the Constitution is the right of Gays getting married?

    to quit finding fault with atheists

    Its Atheists who are the assholes trying to shove their crap in our faces.


  152. 155 | June 5, 2012 6:47 pm

    The 9th Circuit Court get’s overturned by SCOTUS about 60 percent of the time. They are an insult and an injury to the State of California.

    Federal appeals court refuses to rehear challenge to California’s same-sex marriage ban

    A federal appeals court in San Francisco refused Tuesday to rehear a legal challenge to the state’s same-sex marriage ban, sending the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals made the decision, which was based on whether a majority of its active judges had agreed or refused to reconsider a ruling in February in which two of its member judges declared the ban unconstitutional.


  153. Lily
    156 | June 5, 2012 6:48 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Sorry I don’t agree with a word you said.


  154. heysoos
    157 | June 5, 2012 6:48 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I agree, but Israel has to play a game no other state does…they understand the dynamics of balance with the US against their enemies….ruining the Third Army would accomplish nothing to their favor, so they sent them packing and picked up some brownie points for it


  155. 158 | June 5, 2012 6:49 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    that’s my dilemma…actually I cannot stand Romney, but the alternative is worse…and it’s really not so much Romney as the GOP elites….these cats are poison

    That’s my stance. Romney is a Liberal but Obama is a 3rd World Liberation Marxist. Hence I have to vote for the Liberal, but that doesn’t mean I will be a water carrier.


  156. Lily
    159 | June 5, 2012 6:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    if he believed in the Constitution he would tell his supporters that gays have a right to some legal support regarding marriage

    Where in the Constitution is the right of Gays getting married?

    to quit finding fault with atheists

    Its Atheists who are the assholes trying to shove their crap in our faces.

    Hear, hear!


  157. heysoos
    160 | June 5, 2012 6:51 pm

    @ Rodan:
    where in the Con does it say that same sex people cannot marry?


  158. 161 | June 5, 2012 6:51 pm

    @ Lily:

    This is a funny dynamic, I’m agreeing with Heysos about Romney, but agreeing with you on the Constitution.

    Odd day!

    :lol:


  159. 162 | June 5, 2012 6:51 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Makes me wonder what would happen if SCOTUS overturns the 9th Circus Court of Appeals on Prop 8. Will teh ghey community stomp their feet and throw yet another temper tantrum…or will they go Stonewall on us?


  160. buzzsawmonkey
    163 | June 5, 2012 6:53 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    if he believed in the Constitution he would tell his supporters that gays have a right to some legal support regarding marriage or unions

    No. Not at all. No Constitutional right whatsoever.

    If you believe such a right exists, explain it—and where it is to be found—in clear, succinct sentences with no ellipses.


  161. heysoos
    164 | June 5, 2012 6:53 pm

    @ Rodan:
    it’s what it is…we are all individual….the trick is to not kill somebody over it…
    DRINK!


  162. 165 | June 5, 2012 6:53 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Gay Marriage is a recent phenomenon. Its an invented issue. There was never any Gay Marriage until recent times.

    Gay Marriage is NOT a Constitutional right.


  163. buzzsawmonkey
    166 | June 5, 2012 6:53 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    where in the Con does it say that same sex people cannot marry?

    That does not mean that a right to do so exists.


  164. Lily
    167 | June 5, 2012 6:53 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    The 9th Circuit Court get’s overturned by SCOTUS about 60 percent of the time. They are an insult and an injury to the State of California.

    Federal appeals court refuses to rehear challenge to California’s same-sex marriage ban

    A federal appeals court in San Francisco refused Tuesday to rehear a legal challenge to the state’s same-sex marriage ban, sending the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals made the decision, which was based on whether a majority of its active judges had agreed or refused to reconsider a ruling in February in which two of its member judges declared the ban unconstitutional.

    Wasn’t this put to a vote and then 9th Circuit Court said the people were wrong? So why even let people vote on it? This is a disgrace by the 9th Circuit Court.


  165. 168 | June 5, 2012 6:54 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    it’s what it is…we are all individual….the trick is to not kill somebody over it…
    DRINK!

    Salud!


  166. buzzsawmonkey
    169 | June 5, 2012 6:54 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    A federal appeals court in San Francisco refused Tuesday to rehear a legal challenge to the state’s same-sex marriage ban, sending the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    And the First DA/DT Justice is rarin’ to go.


  167. heysoos
    170 | June 5, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    they have the right because there is no legislation against it…take your beef to the SC if it’s that important…you’ll lose


  168. 171 | June 5, 2012 6:58 pm

    Any more questions about what the Militant Homosexual Agenda really is? If you can’t figure it out from this, well, then you are stupider than a bucket of warm spit.

    Court Says Gay Rights Trump Religious Rights

    The New Mexico Court of Appeals upheld a ruling by the state’s Civil Rights Commission that a Christian photographer who refused to take pictures of a gay couple’s commitment ceremony violated the state’s discrimination law.

    “Elane Photography may not discriminate in its commercial activities against protected classes as the basis for expressing its religious freedom,” Judge Tim Garcia wrote in a 45-page ruling.

    The case dates back to 2006 when Vanessa Willock tried to hire Elane Photography for a “same-gender ceremony.” New Mexico law does not recognize either marriage or civil unions between persons of the same sex.

    Elane Hugenin declined to accept the job and explained to Willock that because of their Christian beliefs the studio only handled “traditional weddings.”

    In 2008 the New Mexico Human Rights Commission found Elane Photography guilty of “sexual orientation” discrimination. The studio is owned by a young Christian husband and wife who based their refusal on their religious beliefs.

    The Court of Appeals determined that a photo studio is considered a public accommodation – much like a restaurant or a store. As such, the photo studio may not refuse services based on sexual orientation or gender identity – even if doing so would violate the religious principles of the owners.


  169. buzzsawmonkey
    172 | June 5, 2012 6:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    they have the right because there is no legislation against it…take your beef to the SC if it’s that important…you’ll lose

    If that were true, what are all the howling mobs with signs doing demanding something they already have?

    You are talking through your hat.


  170. 173 | June 5, 2012 6:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    they have the right because there is no legislation against it…take your beef to the SC if it’s that important…you’ll lose

    I’m guessing you have never heard of DOMA.


  171. 174 | June 5, 2012 7:00 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    they have the right because there is no legislation against it…take your beef to the SC if it’s that important…you’ll lose
    If that were true, what are all the howling mobs with signs doing demanding something they already have?
    You are talking through your hat.

    That’s not his hat he is talking through, it’s his ass.


  172. Lily
    175 | June 5, 2012 7:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    This is a funny dynamic, I’m agreeing with Heysos about Romney, but agreeing with you on the Constitution.

    Odd day!

    Look our choice is Romney..or Obama. The only reason I will defend Romney is because the other choice is much worse, very much worse.
    I think the Romney bashing is just pre-mature. It is our only choice.
    Sure I agree with you that the RNC should have put up a better candidate. But right now we really need to get behind him to get this rogue president and all his EO’s sitting on his desk just waiting for him to be given 4 more years out of the White House and the rest of his communist thugs with him. Romney doesn’t scare me. Obama does.
    I think you and I agree more often than not. Sometimes it just doesn’t seem like it. ;)


  173. 176 | June 5, 2012 7:02 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yup, its a pre-text to go after The Catholic Church, Evangelicals, Baptists, Orthodox Christians, Orthodox Jews.


  174. heysoos
    177 | June 5, 2012 7:03 pm

    we have a secular state…as far as I’m concerned marriage is another type of business arrangement…the state will record, save, and intervene when couples cannot come to their own terms regarding money, children, property etc…who’s business is it that the two people are fucking each other, living together or whatever…it all comes down to the law, secular law…these people are just names on the books


  175. Speranza
    178 | June 5, 2012 7:03 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I think the Romney bashing is just pre-mature. It is our only choice.

    If Romney beats Obama – he gets at least two years from me where my gratitude overrides my other concerns.


  176. 179 | June 5, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ Lily:

    Romney wants to send more Americans to die for the Muslim Brotherhood. He is not my guy. I am votying against Obama, but will owe no support to Romney.

    I think you and I agree more often than not. Sometimes it just doesn’t seem like it.

    We do, we just disagree over Romney and the GOP’s agenda. But we agree on everything else.


  177. heysoos
    180 | June 5, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    ignore them…what’s your problem with lunatics?….they have cred because you give it to them


  178. 181 | June 5, 2012 7:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I think you and I agree more often than not. Sometimes it just doesn’t seem like it. ;)

    Meh, don’t worry about it Lily, Rodan disagrees with himself half the time, just so he won’t get complacent about his own opinions. (That or he’s just ornery) :twisted:


  179. Lily
    182 | June 5, 2012 7:06 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Any more questions about what the Militant Homosexual Agenda really is? If you can’t figure it out from this, well, then you are stupider than a bucket of warm spit.

    Court Says Gay Rights Trump Religious Rights

    The New Mexico Court of Appeals upheld a ruling by the state’s Civil Rights Commission that a Christian photographer who refused to take pictures of a gay couple’s commitment ceremony violated the state’s discrimination law.

    “Elane Photography may not discriminate in its commercial activities against protected classes as the basis for expressing its religious freedom,” Judge Tim Garcia wrote in a 45-page ruling.

    The case dates back to 2006 when Vanessa Willock tried to hire Elane Photography for a “same-gender ceremony.” New Mexico law does not recognize either marriage or civil unions between persons of the same sex.

    Elane Hugenin declined to accept the job and explained to Willock that because of their Christian beliefs the studio only handled “traditional weddings.”

    In 2008 the New Mexico Human Rights Commission found Elane Photography guilty of “sexual orientation” discrimination. The studio is owned by a young Christian husband and wife who based their refusal on their religious beliefs.

    The Court of Appeals determined that a photo studio is considered a public accommodation – much like a restaurant or a store. As such, the photo studio may not refuse services based on sexual orientation or gender identity – even if doing so would violate the religious principles of the owners.

    This is excatly what it is all about! Being able to sue Churches..to destroy our religious freedoms. Gays can have civil unions …but they should not have the right to enforce their belief’s on Churches to force them to go against their tenets.


  180. heysoos
    183 | June 5, 2012 7:06 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    no, I’m saying what i believe…chill out or go face palm yourself…millions of people propose this same argument for people like you


  181. The Osprey
    184 | June 5, 2012 7:07 pm

    Drudge:
    Exit Polls: Close but no “recall”


  182. 185 | June 5, 2012 7:08 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    no, I’m saying what i believe…chill out or go face palm yourself…millions of people propose this same argument for people like you

    You don’t even know what “people like me” are.


  183. heysoos
    186 | June 5, 2012 7:09 pm

    @ Lily:
    what civil freedoms are denied you because of gays?


  184. Lily
    187 | June 5, 2012 7:09 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Romney wants to send more Americans to die for the Muslim Brotherhood. He is not my guy. I am votying against Obama, but will owe no support to Romney.

    I think you and I agree more often than not. Sometimes it just doesn’t seem like it.

    We do, we just disagree over Romney and the GOP’s agenda. But we agree on everything else.

    :)


  185. 188 | June 5, 2012 7:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    what civil freedoms are denied you because of gays?

    How about my First amendment constitutional right, not that you seem to know what that is or anything.


  186. heysoos
    189 | June 5, 2012 7:10 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    then trust your own words…gay people are not taking over America


  187. Lily
    190 | June 5, 2012 7:12 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    what civil freedoms are denied you because of gays?

    That my church doesn’t get sued because they refuse to perform ‘gay’ marriages. It is against our tenets.
    You honestly don’t understand this is something to undermine the Churches and in my Church marriage is a Sacrament. Not to be taken willy-nilly. I don’t care about civil unions..but that isn’t enough for them …when a civil union would give them all the rights they want …they want to make the Churches bend their knees to them. Sorry if you can’t understand this.


  188. heysoos
    191 | June 5, 2012 7:12 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    pretty weak explanation…I won’t expect more from you…gays are preventing you from expressive freedom?…how?


  189. 192 | June 5, 2012 7:13 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    then trust your own words…gay people are not taking over America

    Are you really this stupid? Or do you just play an imbecile on the internet?


  190. Lily
    193 | June 5, 2012 7:14 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    I think you and I agree more often than not. Sometimes it just doesn’t seem like it.

    Meh, don’t worry about it Lily, Rodan disagrees with himself half the time, just so he won’t get complacent about his own opinions. (That or he’s just ornery)

    :lol:


  191. heysoos
    194 | June 5, 2012 7:15 pm

    @ Lily:
    you are making something out of nothing…churches do not have to conform to popular politics…since when?


  192. 195 | June 5, 2012 7:15 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    pretty weak explanation…I won’t expect more from you…gays are preventing you from expressive freedom?…how?

    Try quoting the first Amendment to me, that is if you can do so without choking on it. and then tell me you still don’t know what I am talking about.


  193. 196 | June 5, 2012 7:17 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    you are making something out of nothing…churches do not have to conform to popular politics…since when?

    Since, oh right now.

    Court Says Gay Rights Trump Religious Rights


  194. heysoos
    197 | June 5, 2012 7:17 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    nice going….you might be more comfortable over at LGF…I think you are a knee jerk idiot, but I wouldn’t say so in public…why do you reduce you fuzzy brain to derogatory crap?


  195. heysoos
    198 | June 5, 2012 7:19 pm

    @ Lily:
    have your church been taken to court?…when, and what was the verdict?


  196. 199 | June 5, 2012 7:19 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    nice going….you might be more comfortable over at LGF…I think you are a knee jerk idiot, but I wouldn’t say so in public…why do you reduce you fuzzy brain to derogatory crap?

    Because it seems to be the only thing you understand. You know, have to lower the intellectual level of my rhetoric to something you can comprehend.


  197. Lily
    201 | June 5, 2012 7:20 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    you are making something out of nothing…churches do not have to conform to popular politics…since when?

    Really this is exactly the agenda. This has been explained to you several times nicely, politely and yet you still act like we are fools for understanding this is an attack to our freedom OF religion.


  198. heysoos
    202 | June 5, 2012 7:21 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    duh!…gay rights should trump religious rights…are you always this stupid?


  199. heysoos
    203 | June 5, 2012 7:23 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    you don’t debate, you attack…just another poodle


  200. heysoos
    204 | June 5, 2012 7:24 pm

    @ Lily:
    it’s because i don’t fall for you phony gay attack agenda


  201. Lily
    205 | June 5, 2012 7:25 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Gay rights do not and should not trump religious rights. Where in the constitution does it say we have a *RIGHT* to have sex with anyone or anything and anywhere????? Sorry this is about sex. Sex isn’t a civil rights issue. Keep that to yourself and in your bedroom and don’t try to force it down other peoples throats.


  202. 206 | June 5, 2012 7:26 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    duh!…gay rights should trump religious rights…are you always this stupid?

    Show me where Gay Right are enumerated in the US Constitution and I will show you where Religious Rights are.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Now, where exactly are “Gay Right” enumerated in the US Constitution again? Oh yea, that’s right, they are not.


  203. heysoos
    207 | June 5, 2012 7:27 pm

    @ Lily:
    when was you church attacked by gays?…you didn’t answer


  204. Lily
    208 | June 5, 2012 7:28 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Apparently you actual don’t read my posts. Civil unions are okay and they are given all the rights that married couples have. But that isn’t enough they want the churches to bend to them too.


  205. heysoos
    209 | June 5, 2012 7:29 pm

    @ Lily:
    where does it say that it doesn’t?…I want everybody to have the same rights regardless of sexual affiliation…churches have nothing to do with it and I fully expect the courts to protect you bigotry


  206. 210 | June 5, 2012 7:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    when was you church attacked by gays?…you didn’t answer

    Every Church in America was attacked when the Court system ruled that Gay right trumped Religious rights, but your not honest enough to admit that, but that is to be expected from a God hating atheist like you.


  207. Lily
    211 | June 5, 2012 7:30 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    when was you church attacked by gays?…you didn’t answer

    Good grief. Give them time if the courts force the Churches to conform to them and this is what is going on right now. That is their agenda. Sorry I refuse to be attacked by you. I don’t really care if you think I am right or wrong. You have already made up your mind. You don’t want honest discussion you want to bait and attack.


  208. heysoos
    212 | June 5, 2012 7:30 pm

    @ Lily:
    well they can’t bend your church…there is no assault on your ‘rights’


  209. heysoos
    213 | June 5, 2012 7:31 pm

    @ Lily:
    then you anger should be directed at the courts, not gays


  210. 214 | June 5, 2012 7:32 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    then you anger should be directed at the courts, not gays

    And who forced this issue before the Courts?


  211. heysoos
    215 | June 5, 2012 7:32 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    show me…quit blathering and show me…you might change my mind


  212. Lily
    216 | June 5, 2012 7:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    where does it say that it doesn’t?…I want everybody to have the same rights regardless of sexual affiliation…churches have nothing to do with it and I fully expect the courts to protect you bigotry

    Now you have resorted to calling me a bigot. You do not know me and I am not a bigot. I am sorry that you can not understand the point. But let this be very clear here. I HAVE NOT CALLED YOU ANY NAME OR HAVE BEEN IMPOLITE TO YOU. You cannot say the same to me. So who here is the attacker?


  213. heysoos
    217 | June 5, 2012 7:34 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    nazis?…get a grip…everybody wants there issue to go to the SC…why are you even inside this debate?


  214. Lily
    218 | June 5, 2012 7:35 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    then you anger should be directed at the courts, not gays

    Excatly where have I said I was angry? Do not put words into my posts or my mouth that I have not written.


  215. heysoos
    219 | June 5, 2012 7:35 pm

    @ Lily:
    too bad, the shit is flying now


  216. Lily
    220 | June 5, 2012 7:39 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    too bad, the shit is flying now

    Just like you wanted it to. Sorry not in the mood for a food fight.


  217. Lily
    221 | June 5, 2012 7:40 pm

    Time for me to go.

    Have a good evening all. :)


  218. buzzsawmonkey
    222 | June 5, 2012 7:45 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    we have a secular state…as far as I’m concerned marriage is another type of business arrangement…the state will record, save, and intervene when couples cannot come to their own terms regarding money, children, property etc…who’s business is it that the two people are fucking each other, living together or whatever…it all comes down to the law, secular law…these people are just names on the books

    1) “A secular state” merely means that it is not the law that marriages must be done according to the rite of Church X and not according to the rite of Church Y. It does not mean that there is no element of religion in determining what marriage is.

    2) But let us say, for the sake of argument, that you are correct in wanting all religious elements out of the determination of marriage. Does that mean you also want to chisel “In God We Trust” off the coinage and public buildings? Abolish the chaplains in the Congress and the state legislatures? In the armed forces? Just how far are you planning to take this—and why? Is this merely to accommodate the perhaps 2% to 4% of the population that is attracted solely to the same sex? Isn’t that a case of the tail wagging the dog with a vengeance?

    3) Well, OK, now—we’ve got religion entirely out of the state’s end of the marriage business. That’s all right, on one level—your noisy minority can couple to its heart’s content with official sanction, everybody gets merely “domestic partnership” recognition from the state and has to go to their denomination of choice if they want some element of sanctity. Meantime, though—how you gonna stop cousins from “domestic-partnering?” Or siblings? Or a pansy and a chimpanzee? We already have Great Minds arguing that apes are superior to mentally-impaired human children, and that farm animals have or should have rights equivalent to humans. How and on what grounds are you going to prevent their nuptials?

    4) Your fundamental flaw—the flaw that destroys your entire argument—is your citation to “as far as I’m concerned,” in the first line. You are not only not dictator of the country, or Pope, you are not even President. What you think means absolutely nothing, unless you can connect it to history, jusrisprudence, and some level of consistent logic. And you haven’t done that.

    Sorry.


  219. 223 | June 5, 2012 7:48 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    show me…quit blathering and show me…you might change my mind

    You would have to have a mind first, you obviously don’t. It’s right there in front of you, but you refuse to see it.

    The Court of Appeals determined that a photo studio is considered a public accommodation – much like a restaurant or a store. As such, the photo studio may not refuse services based on sexual orientation or gender identity – even if doing so would violate the religious principles of the owners.

    “public accommodation” pursuant to the NM. (BIC 11-15) A “public
    19 accommodation” is “any establishment that provides or offers its services. . . to the
    5
    ..
    ..
    1 public, but does not include a( n) . . . establishment that is by its nature and use
    2 distinctly private.” Section 28-1-2(H).
    3

    Superior Court of New Jersey supported a similarly expansive definition
    11
    . -
    1 of a public accommodation, concluding “that the hallmark of a place of public
    2 accommodation (is) that ‘the public at large is invited
    (.)”’ Natl Org.for Women v.
    3 Little League Baseball, Inc., 318 A.2d 33,37 (N.J. Super. Ct. App. Div. 1974). The

    Churches are “Public Accommodations” according to the Court definition.

    I realize you can’t understand this, because, well it take intelligence and the capacity for logical reasoning, which you are clearly lacking.


  220. buzzsawmonkey
    224 | June 5, 2012 7:49 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    …I want everybody to have the same rights regardless of sexual affiliation…

    You want to create nonexistent “rights” out of whole cloth merely as a matter of personal whim.

    Or, you want to troll this site to see how many people you can incite by making unsupported statements which are so garbled they do not rise to the level of reasoned argument.

    Or both.


  221. heysoos
    225 | June 5, 2012 7:53 pm

    you people here@ buzzsawmonkey:
    troll this site?…thanks for that


  222. heysoos
    226 | June 5, 2012 7:53 pm

    Blogmoc…troll central


  223. buzzsawmonkey
    227 | June 5, 2012 8:02 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    …thanks for that

    Sometimes one has to be harsh, no matter how much one regrets it.

    “Trolling” consists of endlessly repeating baited material without support; it grieves me to see you fall into that rut. I like seeing you around, and I’m glad you’re finally out of Yertle’s stagnant pond—but on an issue such as that under discussion, you need to refer to more than your own personal opinion if you want your statements to be taken seriously.


  224. 228 | June 5, 2012 8:17 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Do you support Cannibal Rights?


  225. buzzsawmonkey
    229 | June 5, 2012 9:18 pm

    Heysoos, don’t go ‘way mad
    Take a bad post, and make it better
    If you let the comments under your skin
    Your skin’s too thin to make it better.

    Heysoos, the gaffes you made
    If repeated, keep you in fetters
    The minute you support your position
    Then you begin to make it better.

    It isn’t that you disagree, Heysoos—
    Believe me
    We’ve all disagreed with lots of posters
    But if you lack info to back when you attack
    You’ll just be dismissed as an idle boaster

    Heysoos, when next you’re ’round
    I surely hope that your temper’s better
    As soon as you back up things that you say
    From that new day, you’ll find things better

    Better, better, better, better, better, better….

    La, la la, lalalala
    Lalalala, Heysoos…


  226. Speranza
    230 | June 5, 2012 11:27 pm

    Knock it off.


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