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Tonight’s Forcast: Whining With A 98% Chance Of Heavy Spin Later This Week.

by Flyovercountry ( 84 Comments › )
Filed under Progressives, Republican Party at June 7th, 2012 - 11:30 am

First, let’s start it all off with the happy stuff. Tuesday night’s election results in Wisconsin are definitely good enough to unleash the baby elephants.

On the Democrat planet of Perpetual Spin, last night’s election had already taken on several dozen separate and distinct connotations. It went from being a referendum on the, “fringe right wing elements,” that had supposedly taken over the Republican Party to being, “not really indicative of anything at all,” to being a sign of, “just how unfair life is that Republicans are able to raise campaign funds.” So, as a public service of providing schadenfreude whenever that opportunity exists, please enjoy this little gem thoughtfully provided by CNN.

 

What the whining paid union thug in the video doesn’t say is that while there was a wide disparity in cash raised by the candidates themselves, there was also a wide disparity in the amount of money spent by super Pacs. The unions poured a ton of money into all of their shenanigans in Wisconsin which more than evened the spending playing field. Not to mention that this whole exercise in futility was their idea in the first place. We’ll get back to that topic in a moment.

After all of the recounts, the posturing and the hand wringing, what exactly was accomplished here? They did manage to pick up one seat in the Wisconsin State Senate last night but, and this one is truly funny, the Senate will not be meeting in session until after that particular seat is up for reelection again this November. You’ve read that correctly, John Lehman won a contest which will not actually see him take his oath of office, unless he is reelected this fall. That is the true fitting symbol of what the unions accomplished in Wisconsin.

For all of the constant bleating about how Democracy was not being served by a Republican having the temerity to actually win an election in Wisconsin, the political left has been going full tilt in their attempt to subvert the will of the people of that state to not be held hostage any longer. Scott Walker campaigned on a platform based entirely on balancing his state’s budget and reigning in the public sector unions which were bleeding the state dry. In 2010, he won a narrow victory, but it was wide enough to make it clear that a majority of Wisconsin’s citizens were sick of it.

When Scott Walker and his newly elected Republican majority in both Houses of the Wisconsin Legislature began keeping their campaign promises, all heck broke lose in the Badger State. Upon the realization that the taxpayer funded gravy train was coming to an end, the national unions, led by the usual suspects, bused in tens of thousands of paid agitators to lay siege to the Wisconsin Capitol. Riots erupted as Scott Walker and his team pressed forward with his agenda, upon which he had previously campaigned and won his job.

The union chieftains realized quickly that their source of bribe money, extortion profits, payoffs, and ill gotten gains was about to be seriously threatened. They retaliated with recall drives, and then followed through on those threats. So far, 10 Republican Senators, the Governor, The Lieutenant Governor, and one Supreme Court Justice have faced the wrath of the national organized labor machine. (David Prosser faced what has to be a record in terms of money spent for his reelection bid to defeat Joann Kloppenberg to retain his position on Wisconsin’s high court.) During the entire process, charges of the Walker team subverting the democratic process were leveled by the very people who were seeking to subvert the clearly expressed wishes of the people they were claiming to represent.

Last night, the good people of Wisconsin have restated, and by an even larger margin this time around, that they want Scott Walker to keep doing exactly what he is doing. As it turns out, they like the idea of not being forced to join a union, and would rather keep the freedom to not join one. They like the idea of their state’s budget being balanced and their elected leaders showing some signs of understanding that the wealth of the state is finite. They like the idea of the public sector unions not wielding the actual levers of power, but having control of those levers returned to the citizens of the state instead. Go figure.

How bad is this one for organized labor? They spent a ton of cash on this. I don’t know if they went all in, but they bet much more than they should have. Last fall, they won this battle in Ohio, Indiana was more of a tie, (largely due to Mitch Daniels being a weak fish,) but in New Jersey and Wisconsin, they lost, and lost big. After 10 State Senate Recalls, the unions hold a temporary 1 seat margin in one house of the Wisconsin legislative branch, which will not be in session until after the coming November elections when 17 of the 33 seats are to be decided all over again, including the one they just picked off. A perfect tribute for their efforts to thwart the will of the people. I guess that, “this is what democracy looks like.”

I don’t know if this actually points to any national implications, team Obama will definitely say that it means nothing. I’m sure that plenty of Conservative pundits will be piling on today touting the, “it means everything,” meme. I can tell you for sure one thing it does mean, and that is this. After decades of Democrats running things in Wisconsin, the people there are ready to give Republicans a chance, and after two years of them living up to their promises, they would like to keep them in charge.

It’s the what happens next that I am interested in now. Will the national labor unions let the good people of Wisconsin be, or will they attempt to subvert their wishes once again? Yesterday I had read in several places that they had a whole day of protests planned for today, knowing already that they were going down in flames. Few things in nature are as dangerous as a wounded animal, and make no mistakes about it, organized labor has been wounded by Wisconsin, one of their true strong holds in America. I do not believe that we have heard the last of them, but with the public spigots turned off, their bark will surely surpass their bite at some point in the future.

Look for Wisconsin to become a right to work state in 2013. Congratulations to you guys, and enjoy your status of becoming one of the stronger states economically speaking, you’ve earned it.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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84 Responses to “Tonight’s Forcast: Whining With A 98% Chance Of Heavy Spin Later This Week.”
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  1. huckfunn
    1 | June 7, 2012 11:50 am

    On one of the Sunday morning TV shows there was a Wisconsin democrat state senator or legislator who said that there needs to be an amendment to the Wisconsin constitution that limits recalls specifically to acts of misconduct. He made the point that recalls for policy matters are not only a waste of money, they are contrary to the democratic process in that the voters elected Walker for his stated policy goals.


  2. lobo91
    2 | June 7, 2012 11:58 am

    @ huckfunn:

    A Democrat said that? He’ll be the next one recalled…


  3. 3 | June 7, 2012 12:00 pm

    I could say many things about the Axis of Asses, but I will refrain from doing so. For now.


  4. huckfunn
    4 | June 7, 2012 12:00 pm

    @ lobo91:
    That was my thinking, also. Too damned reasonable.


  5. 5 | June 7, 2012 12:03 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    If they had won I bet that same Democrats would claim the people have spoken!


  6. 6 | June 7, 2012 12:08 pm

    Didn’t the DNC stop funding a while ago once they read the writing on the wall?


  7. huckfunn
    7 | June 7, 2012 12:08 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Yessir! That “reasonable” thing is a fleeting attribute for a dem.


  8. 8 | June 7, 2012 12:10 pm

    @ Rodan:

    No doubt of that. Obama would have been in the thick of it, too, if it had looked like the unions would win. He wasn’t willing to risk his reputation to try to win the fight in Wisconsin. That has to rankle the Unions. GOod. I hope they are very disaffected with our President. Maybe they’ll decide to stay home and not vote in November. After all, Romney is going to win anyway. Why bother? Isn’t that what Obama told them about Wisconsin? I lov eit. I usually wish death and discord to our enemies, but I don’t really wish death on our political enemis, even though I do hate them. Discord, though, I wish them in ♠ …


  9. 9 | June 7, 2012 12:15 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Hey, he tweeted! Obama isn’t going to get as many Black votes, Jewish votes, Independent votes, Catholic votes, and now union votes as he did in 2008. He is going to loose and I think he is going to loose big.


  10. 10 | June 7, 2012 12:22 pm

    @ Rancher:

    I’m beginning to think you are right. Romney is willing to Fight. Obama has only faced on ereal opponent before, and he lost to him. Every other time he has manipulated the opposition into running very weak candidates, including in 2008. I don’t think he is facing a weak candidate thi time. Did you see the link I posted to the article on Breitbart about Romney out-raising Obama? Sweet! Money doesn’t always win the contest, but it is better to have more than your opponent.


  11. 11 | June 7, 2012 12:27 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ huckfunn:

    From the land of the insane!

    172 William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jun 7, 2012 8:39:53am replyquote

    * 3
    * down
    * up
    * report

    re: #135 RogueOne

    The dems control the senate but that’s about to change. If Clinton could get it done for 6 years Obama should be able to pull it off for a few.

    Clinton _was_ a Rockefeller Republican. Obama may be a center-right dem but he’s still a real Democratic President. Also, his permanent tan is also there so that the Republicans will never work for him.

    Obama is Center-Right!

    :lol:

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  12. huckfunn
    12 | June 7, 2012 12:31 pm

    @ Rodan:
    BWAHAHAHAHA! :grin:


  13. 13 | June 7, 2012 12:33 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Wow. I guess compared to Stalin, Obama is on the Right. It is all where your perspective is coming from. I once had a commenter on th einternet assure me that all the media was right-wing biased because all the media operations try to make a profit. That makes them essentially capitalist, and therefore right-wing. The guy later admitted to being a communist. Communism doesn’t sell in America. Even Obama’s European-style Socialism doesn’t really sell. If people had paid more attention when he was running, he’d have never made it. Now that he has a track record that he can’t hide, I think he’s toast. Oh, we shouldn’t get cocky, but I think we can win this thing in the fall.


  14. 14 | June 7, 2012 12:36 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Did you see the link I posted to the article on Breitbart about Romney out-raising Obama?

    I did not but I knew he was nowhere near on track the billion dollar mark earlier predicted. Obama’s campaign was recently crying that Romney’s not as nice as McCain was.


  15. 15 | June 7, 2012 12:40 pm

    Rush is talking about Obama’s socialist party that Fight the Smears vehemently denied in 2008.


  16. Bumr50
    16 | June 7, 2012 12:40 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I didn’t foresee Obama taking flak from the Left as much as he is. It looks pretty lethal to me.


  17. 17 | June 7, 2012 12:43 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Here it is again. Obama pulled in $60 million in May, but Romney pulled in $76 million. $16 million is a lot of air-time for TV commercials in swing states. If Romney can keep it up, he’ll be able to out-spend Obama. Nobody expected that a year ago. I think Romney may be able to cultivate an air of inevitibility about the election in the fall. That’ll put Obama on the defensive, and Obama doesn’t do well on defense. He really isn’t a formidible campaigner. All he has is the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT thing, and that act has worn thin over the last four years. I think he’ll be a one-term failure unless Romney fucks it up somehow.


  18. 18 | June 7, 2012 12:49 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    Clinton’s been fun to watch, Krauthammer called him a double agent. I saw Pelosi praising Bush this morning and how much bipartisanship he had, a dig at Obama’s utter failure in that regard. Pelosi!


  19. 19 | June 7, 2012 12:50 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Pelosi praising Bush?

    WTF! I guess now realizes he was a Liberal.


  20. pat
    20 | June 7, 2012 12:56 pm

    Walker, literally, handed the keys and staffing of his recall offices to Romney the night of the election. The RNC had acknowledged previous to Tuesday that this would occur. It was another reason for RNC $ contributions. To lease the copiers, buy the computers and phones etc. This is a very large operation with multiple offices, and will likely be the upper-Midwest spear point for the Romney campaign. A nice 2 for 1 play by Romney, Walker and his old friend Reince Priebus, former Chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin and now RNC head.


  21. 21 | June 7, 2012 12:56 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Hopefully President Romney will give her pleanty of reasons to wish she were back in the Bush Administration. I hope the next 15 years are getting ready to be a nightmare for the Left. 2010 was a start. Wisconsin was a sign. 2012 could be the year we begin saving America in ernest. Or it could be when we lose it all. This is such a pivotal election.


  22. SciFiGuy
    22 | June 7, 2012 12:58 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Hopefully President Romney will give her pleanty of reasons to wish she were back in the Bush Administration. I hope the next 15 years are getting ready to be a nightmare for the Left. 2010 was a start. Wisconsin was a sign. 2012 could be the year we begin saving America in ernest. Or it could be when we lose it all. This is such a pivotal election.

    If everyone plays their cards correctly, Obama will be the last of the lefty presidents elected in my lifetime. And I got 40+ years to go (God willing)


  23. MikeA
    23 | June 7, 2012 12:59 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Think of it this way. The person with no moral compass will turn on their “friends” as quickly as on anyone else. Add to that they had it easier working with Bush since he was somewhat liberal but also a many of faith and compassion. Obama is about Obama. Some on the left see that and know that he will turn on them as quick as he will turn on any one else. It will be fun to watch this show.

    Time for more chips, beer and popcorn. Maybe some baby-backs…


  24. mfhorn
    24 | June 7, 2012 1:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama may be a center-right dem but he’s still a real Democratic President. Also, his permanent tan is also there so that the Republicans will never work for him.
    Obama is Center-Right!

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sweet Jesus, if Obama’s “Center right”, the thought of a real leftist scares the crap out of me. And of course, Republicans are raaaaacist since we don’t follow along with every idea he has.

    Col West for VP!


  25. 25 | June 7, 2012 1:02 pm

    @ pat:
    I hadn’t thought of that, maybe Wisconsin is in play. If nothing else Obama will have to fight for a state he probably thought was already his. How long has RCP had it listed as a tossup?


  26. pat
    26 | June 7, 2012 1:13 pm

    @ Rancher:
    The intent is to create regional Romney teams. This will be the upper hub. Utah likely the Western. Ma. the Eastern. No idea where the Southern is. Then use them to coordinate advertising, local ads, communications etc. Powerful organization.


  27. 27 | June 7, 2012 1:24 pm

    pat wrote:

    @ Rancher:
    The intent is to create regional Romney teams. This will be the upper hub. Utah likely the Western. Ma. the Eastern. No idea where the Southern is. Then use them to coordinate advertising, local ads, communications etc. Powerful organization.

    In fairness, I don’t think anyone has ever question Mitt Romney’s ability to put together a powerful and effective organization.


  28. 28 | June 7, 2012 1:35 pm

    @ MikeA:

    Yup, the Democratic Party’s meltdown continues.


  29. 29 | June 7, 2012 1:37 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Maybe the Republicans will win big enough, so the Right can split and forma real Rightwing party. That way it can be LIberal Republcians vs. a Real Conservative Party. The Democrarts will be a fring party.


  30. 30 | June 7, 2012 1:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    Yup, the Democratic Party’s meltdown continues.

    Erick Holder was questioned by congress today, the democrats kept trying to steer the questions away from “Fast and Furious” but the Republicans kept hammering away at him. Holder was spinning so “Fast and Furious” that if we could get him to hold a magnet while standing in a coil of copper wire we could end the energy crisis for the next million years.


  31. 31 | June 7, 2012 1:39 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Maybe the Republicans will win big enough, so the Right can split and forma real Rightwing party. That way it can be LIberal Republcians vs. a Real Conservative Party. The Democrarts will be a fring party.

    The Liberal Republicans and the democrats would merge into one party.


  32. livefreeor die
    32 | June 7, 2012 1:41 pm

    @ Rodan:
    ‘Tis a thing of beauty.
    Cry, Ed Schultz. Cry until you are out of tears and can only whimper like the little girly man you are.


  33. Mars
    33 | June 7, 2012 1:46 pm

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302031/obamas-third-party-history-stanley-kurtz

    I’ve been after this since 2008, finally the proof of O’s membership in the Socialist New Party has come out.


  34. 34 | June 7, 2012 1:46 pm

    @ SciFiGuy:

    If everyone plays their cards correctly, Obama will be the last of the lefty presidents elected in my lifetime.

    I wish I could agree, but the truth is Mitt Romney is on the Left. He’s not a Marxist like Obama, but he’s no Conservative. What I dread is that I will never again see a Center-Right President in my life. Reagan was the last one and probably the last.


  35. 35 | June 7, 2012 1:49 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    The Republican party is the Democratic Party of the FDR/Truman/JFK era. That’s why I despise it. I want a Center-Right/Rightwing Party. I currently have no representation politically for my views. There are Republicans who are Rightwing, which is the Tea Party faction but the GOP is a Liberal Party and doesn’t represent my views.


  36. Mars
    36 | June 7, 2012 1:49 pm

    @ Rancher:
    Didn’t see that you beat me to it.

    I’ve been pushing this since before he became president. Even at the swamp, where I was told there was nothing to see there.


  37. 37 | June 7, 2012 1:50 pm

    @ livefreeor die:

    Yup, its hysterical to watch. The Democratic Party’s chickens are coming home to roost.


  38. 38 | June 7, 2012 1:50 pm

    Mars wrote:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302031/obamas-third-party-history-stanley-kurtz
    I’ve been after this since 2008, finally the proof of O’s membership in the Socialist New Party has come out.

    Somebody should send that to Bill Clinton.

    Bill Clinton mocks Allen West: This isn’t the 1950s; nobody’s seen a Communist in over a decade

    At a fundraiser for Obama tonight, Bill Clinton was arguing the case for how much Obama’s done in spite of criticism, and referenced Allen West’s comments that almost 80 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus were Communists:

    He’s had to get all this done with a House of Representatives that had one of the Tea Party members claim that 78 to 81 members of the Democratic Caucus were members of the Communist Party and neither the presidential nominee nor any of the leaders rebuked him for saying that! This is not the 1950s. At least Joe McCarthy could skate on the fact that there were one or two living Communists walking around. Nobody’s seen a Communist in over a decade!


  39. 39 | June 7, 2012 1:52 pm

    @ Mars:

    Obama was affiliated with that Party for years.


  40. Bumr50
    40 | June 7, 2012 1:53 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    This from the man that changes the meaning of the verb “to be.”

    To him, “communist” could mean “McDLT.”


  41. 41 | June 7, 2012 1:53 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Bill Clinton was with a Communist by the name of Barack Obama recently.


  42. 42 | June 7, 2012 1:54 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    It depends on what the meaning of is, is!


  43. Bumr50
    43 | June 7, 2012 1:54 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    “Progressive” is the new “Communist,” although they’re probably working on it’s replacement as we type…


  44. Mars
    44 | June 7, 2012 1:55 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Yep, I’m getting tired of people talking about how helpful Klinton is being to our side and how he hates O.

    I watched his speech the other day and it was the most vile, liar filled rant I’ve ever had the displeasure of hearing.

    Saying Romney wants to send us the way of Europe and that O was the true savior of the country. It went well above and beyond anything that Klinton would have been required for party loyalty.


  45. 45 | June 7, 2012 1:56 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yep, I’m getting tired of people talking about how helpful Klinton is being to our side and how he hates O

    Krauthammer is the one pushing that.


  46. 46 | June 7, 2012 1:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    Yep, I’m getting tired of people talking about how helpful Klinton is being to our side and how he hates O
    Krauthammer is the one pushing that.

    That’s because Krauthammer is a double agent and trying to double double cross America by getting people to ignore Clinton’s comments.


  47. 47 | June 7, 2012 2:01 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Krauthammer is hit or miss.


  48. Bumr50
    48 | June 7, 2012 2:07 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I think Krauthammer LOVES “boys club” politics, and “inside baseball” that only privileged ears “get.”

    Clinton AND Obama are neverending fountains of obfuscation for him to sift through.


  49. eaglesoars
    49 | June 7, 2012 2:08 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Rush is talking about Obama’s socialist party that Fight the Smears vehemently denied in 2008.

    Thank you. I’ve just arrived here and haven’t read the whole thread but this is the most important thing. Most all of us here knew Obama for what he is from the beginning. But the documentation is critical.

    Can I call him a socialist now? Yes. I called him a socialist before and I am singing it from the rooftops.

    Obama not only gets blood on his hands via Holder and the Kill List, he is also a traitor.

    Which surprises me not one whit.


  50. 50 | June 7, 2012 2:10 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I heard about this years ago. As much as I am not a huge fan, Hannity has been on the game on Obama’s associations.

    I’m going to do a headline on that.


  51. eaglesoars
    51 | June 7, 2012 2:11 pm

    pat wrote:

    No idea where the Southern is.

    Mississippi? Bobby Jindal


  52. Mars
    52 | June 7, 2012 2:14 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I’ve been pushing this since at least 08. I was told in the swamp that there was nothing to see there. I felt his New Party connection was one of the most damaging things out there about him.


  53. eaglesoars
    53 | June 7, 2012 2:15 pm

    Can I ask a question? Did you hear -- not just read the transcript but HEAR -- Obama’s remarks about Moo-shells push-ups?

    If Hubby said that, I’d be a widow with not enough body parts to bury in a coffin.

    Thoughts?


  54. 54 | June 7, 2012 2:15 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Jindal is in Louisiana. That would be a good place for it. There or Atlanta. Atlanta is like the Capitol of the South. And it is a big enough city to support such a thing. I am just ready to have this election over with. I have a good feeling about things right now. I want to go ahead and get the win in the books before the Republicans fuck it up. They are so good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory…


  55. eaglesoars
    55 | June 7, 2012 2:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I’m going to do a headline on that.

    Excellent.


  56. 56 | June 7, 2012 2:16 pm

    The White House must have read my Blog about leaks. They denied any involvement in the leaks calling such allegations “grossly irresponsible.” We will see, the FBI has launched an investigation to look into the Stuxnet leaks. Who is Obama’s bagman, the one that tried to bribe Rev. Wright? I bet he takes the fall if the FBI can find the facts.


  57. 57 | June 7, 2012 2:17 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ Rodan:

    Calling Обама a Filthy Communist Bastard is the mildest name I have for him!


  58. eaglesoars
    58 | June 7, 2012 2:18 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Jindal is in Louisiana.

    D’oh!

    I know that. Really. I do.
    Iron Fist wrote:

    Atlanta is like the Capitol of the South.

    Yeah, it is and by my reading, fairly liberal. A lot of transplanted Yankees.


  59. 59 | June 7, 2012 2:18 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I’ve always figured Moochelle was fridgid in a Hillary Clinton sort of way, so it doesn’t surprise me that Obama would make that kind of joke. He isn’t a high-class kind of guy, you know. Now, when Moochelle Antionette makes a joke about his boyfriend, well, that will be just special8O


  60. eaglesoars
    60 | June 7, 2012 2:19 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Who is Obama’s bagman, the one that tried to bribe Rev. Wright?

    Eric Whitaker


  61. 61 | June 7, 2012 2:20 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    The White House must have read my Blog about leaks. They denied any involvement in the leaks calling such allegations “grossly irresponsible.” We will see, the FBI has launched an investigation to look into the Stuxnet leaks. Who is Obama’s bagman, the one that tried to bribe Rev. Wright? I bet he takes the fall if the FBI can find the facts.

    I’m Calling total and complete BS. If the FBI is investigating any leak at all, it’s Ulstermans Insider.


  62. 62 | June 7, 2012 2:22 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Most big cities are Liberal. The split between the Cities and the country side goes back to before the Civil War. Atlanta is no more reliably liberal than Nashville or Memphis (which are pretty Liberal). Georgia is a fairly conservative State, though, IIRC. RCP has Georgia as a “Leans Romney” state, but they also have North Carolina as a stoss-up. I’d say after Obama came out of the closet on gay marriage, North Carolina is a pretty reliable Romney State.


  63. 63 | June 7, 2012 2:23 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Can I ask a question? Did you hear – not just read the transcript but HEAR – Obama’s remarks about Moo-shells push-ups?
    kable
    If Hubby said that, I’d be a widow with not enough body parts to bury in a coffin.

    Thoughts?

    My wife would only find that remark humorous if I made it to her…ALONE. Even making it among close friends (much less in public) is unthinkable. It’s crude, tasteless and, alas, totally in character.

    And I thought the Clintons were trashy!


  64. 64 | June 7, 2012 2:25 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’m over at RCP right now. Which link should I look for to see which states are what?


  65. 65 | June 7, 2012 2:25 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    [Deleted]


  66. eaglesoars
    66 | June 7, 2012 2:25 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    I’ve always figured Moochelle was fridgid in a Hillary Clinton sort of way, so it doesn’t surprise me that Obama would make that kind of joke. He isn’t a high-class kind of guy, you know. Now, when Moochelle Antionette makes a joke about his boyfriend, well, that will be just special…

    There is no doubt in my mind that Obama has a problem with women. We can start with his mother, who abandoned him to go off and save the world. Keep in mind that Valerie Jarret is Moo-shells friend originally -- not Obama’s. There are A LOT of people who own him and he knows it. Not least, the wymen.

    He’s a miserable loser. What I’ve found striking in the last few weeks is that people are waking up to the fact -- and admitting it publicly -- that they really don’t like him. From Tina Brown to Maureen Dowd to David Mariniss.

    NOBODY LIKES THIS GUY AS A PERSON.

    That’s lethal for a politician. That’s why I don’t believe the polls that say his likability quotient is right up there. Those people are lying.


  67. 67 | June 7, 2012 2:26 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    [Deleted]

    Indeed. I think…….


  68. darkwords
    68 | June 7, 2012 2:27 pm

    Obama jokes about blowjobs yes I think he did. he likes to get away with that shit in office. RE flipping off Hilary. He’s got a long track record of being crude and trying to shove it back into the face of his supporters.

    GWB was always concerned about the country. His product was the USA

    Obama is always I.I.I…. His product is Obama.

    Huge difference


  69. 69 | June 7, 2012 2:28 pm

    @ Macker:

    Rancher posted it earlier. Here is the map. I disagree with them on some of it, but it shows that it is possible for Romney to win. I expect a squeaker of an election, but I expect Romney to win. I just want it over with. I am nervous as a cat, waiting on the results!


  70. 70 | June 7, 2012 2:30 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ Rancher:
    @ Mars:

    It’s up.


  71. eaglesoars
    71 | June 7, 2012 2:32 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I’d say after Obama came out of the closet on gay marriage,

    I busted a gut laughing when he did that. I thought of the Calypso Louie Muslims next door who got all dressed up in their Friday-go-to-mosque clothes for the 2008 election. Dragged all 6 kids to the polls with them. Now their Black Messiah comes out for fudge packing.

    And they were dumb enough to give all their kids unpronounceable Arabic names.

    I’m loving it.

    The’ll be practicing “Want fries with that?” for the rest of their lives.


  72. 72 | June 7, 2012 2:34 pm

    New thread.


  73. 73 | June 7, 2012 2:35 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    :lol:

    Ironic isn’t it!


  74. darkwords
    74 | June 7, 2012 2:36 pm

    Volokh links to Bradbury via Orson Scott Card Card would probably be a good interview.


  75. 75 | June 7, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yeah, I thought it was quite the amusing thing myself. It was a real slap in the face of all those black ministers (not the Rev.Wright types, but real ministers) that supported him. Now they have a choice: follow God or follow the Black Jesus®. Sadly, I think most of them will choose to follow Obama. It has been interesting watching various black entertainers twist themselves intoknots to support Gay MArriage when their public persona is oh so macho and all. And the beautiful thing about that is that it hasn’t paid off as much as Obama thought it would. Even with all the gay money that has poured in, Romney out fund-raised Obama by $16 million last month. That is music to my ears.


  76. eaglesoars
    76 | June 7, 2012 2:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Ironic isn’t it!

    Karma doesn’t know from irony.

    I am their karma. I am the nightmare next door. That looks like the sweet little old lady.

    Until I take their basketball hoop away and kick in their front door when the children are rude and physically agressive.

    The boys are now very sweet. Truly. The girls have a better survival instinct. They avoid me.


  77. 77 | June 7, 2012 2:42 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Ha ha ha ha ha!


  78. eaglesoars
    78 | June 7, 2012 2:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Yeah, I thought it was quite the amusing thing myself. It was a real slap in the face of all those black ministers (not the Rev.Wright types, but real ministers) that supported him. Now they have a choice: follow God or follow the Black Jesus®. Sadly, I think most of them will choose to follow Obama.

    There’s another dynamic going on. In general, I think the gay population is about 5%. Black men have a serious social pressure to be masculine (I have ANOTHER black nightmare neighbor I could tell you about -- but he will self-isolate, so I’m not worried) and dominant. An American homosexual black male almost always goes on ‘the downlow’.

    That Obama supports gay marriage threatens the very fabric of the black community’s illusions about their masculinity.


  79. 79 | June 7, 2012 2:47 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Like we explained Gerard to you? You paid attention to that for what? About a week? Then what? You forgot all about it? That’s what they are counting on you know? America will forget. Lose focus. Shrug it shoulders. Say whatever. And before they get back to paying attention again – too late. For all of us. I been sayin’ for a long time – few things in this world more stupid than the American voter. Poor dumb bastards.

    In his book, The Great Destroyer, David Limbaugh lists all the things we heard and forgot. He told Hannity after writing the book the he read it and was amazed at all he had forgotten since he started it. There is just so much.

    Jarrett knows she has got to tap that down. That kind of display…it’s repulsive to people. And it’s freaking them out. Jarrett don’t mind the drones…she approves of the program…she approves of what…of how they will be utilized at home. But if the president…if his reaction to using them…how he gets off on it…that endangers them having control of those drones after 2012…and beyond. It’s a politically difficult – an extremely difficult argument to win. A guy who complained loudly about water boarding – it don’t kill the poor bastard. It makes ‘em talk. Barack Obama declared that to be offensive to the ideals of America, right? But now Barack Obama…he’s judge and jury. With a pointing of a finger to names on a list…Barack Obama gets to play God. No day in court. No guarantee innocent people won’t be killed as well – and they have been killed. Children. Women. Over and over again. And this president…he has that knowledge when he watches the kill confirmations. And he watches it over and over again. These are high tech snuff films – a multi-billion dollar snuff program…and he gets off on it.

    Have you seen this.


  80. 80 | June 7, 2012 2:52 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Wait till you read what Ray Bradbury had to say about Mike al-Moor!


  81. 81 | June 7, 2012 2:54 pm

    @ darkwords:
    They are claiming it wasn’t a joke, he was just stupid, but the comedic timing was exquisitely precise. It was in relation to pushups with Ellen Degeneres, she said Michelle didn’t go all the way down so it was about eating at the Y, not blowjobs IMHO.


  82. 82 | June 7, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ darkwords:
    Thanks for the Aaron Walker link last night, I had no idea that was going on.


  83. eaglesoars
    83 | June 7, 2012 2:57 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Yeah, this is good.

    Even the NY Times’ editorial page, the loyalist of Obama strongholds, declares its shock and awe:

    The United States cannot be in a perpetual war on terror that allows lethal force against anyone, anywhere, for any perceived threat. That power is too great, and too easily abused, as those who lived through the George W. Bush administration will remember.

    One problem of ommission. Bush never assassinated American citizens.


  84. eaglesoars
    84 | June 7, 2012 2:59 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    They are claiming it wasn’t a joke, he was just stupid, but the comedic timing was exquisitely precise. It was in relation to pushups with Ellen Degeneres, she said Michelle didn’t go all the way down so it was about eating at the Y, not blowjobs IMHO.

    Talk to your wife and see if that passes the smell test.

    It won’t and you’re a dead man.

    Sorry


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