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The perils of taking the advice of wealthy liberals

by Speranza ( 441 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Elections 2012 at June 13th, 2012 - 3:00 pm

It is apparent that wealthy liberals are the ones who have Obama’s ear.  From gay marriage, Keystone pipeline, taxes, contraception services – Anna Wintour,  George Clooney, Sarah Jessica Parker et al are the ones who get his attention. These rich liberals are completely clueless about America and Americans because they live in life styles that only few will ever glimpse.

by Michael Barone

Who does Barack Obama listen to?

Not Republican politicians. Evidently weeks go by between his conversations with House Speaker John Boehner, who determines what legislation comes to the House floor.

[.......]

Speaker Tip O’Neill walked around the Capitol, asking member after member, “What do you hear?” In contrast, Obama, a former adviser told Vanity Fair‘s Todd Purdum, “is a total introvert. He doesn’t need people.”

But there is one group of people Obama has to listen to: the people who give him large sums of money. He recently attended his 150th fundraiser. That’s more than the number attended by the last four presidents put together.

Obama has seen enough Architectural Digest-type interiors in Park Avenue triplexes and Beverly Hills mansions, and on the block in San Francisco’s Pacific Heights, where every house is owned by a billionaire, to develop an expertise in Louis XV walnut commodes and Brunschwig & Fils fabrics.

He’s also had plenty of chances to absorb the advice of the kind of rich liberals who like to give money to Democratic presidents. And the evidence that he has taken some of that advice is his initiatives on three controversial issues, each of which involves serious political risk.

The first and least risky of these stands is his endorsement of same-sex marriage. Many Democratic money-givers, straight as well as gay, have strong convictions on this issue and were probably not appeased by his assurance that he was “evolving” from his opposition to it.

[.......]

Still, his move probably turned off some older voters and puzzled others who wonder why with a sluggish economy he was spending time on an issue that he said should be handled by the states.

The second issue on which Obama seems to have been listening to his money-givers was the health insurance mandate requiring employers to pay for contraceptives and abortifacients.

Many rich liberals feel strongly that women’s “reproductive rights” (actually, the right not to reproduce) are so vital that government must ensure they have free access to contraception, even though it is widely available and inexpensive.

That’s one view. Roman Catholic bishops and leaders of Catholic institutions feel that such services are sinful and refuse to provide them. They cite the Constitution’s guarantee of free exercise of religion, while the other side relies on what courts have called “emanations” and “penumbras” radiating from constitutional texts.

The political point is that, as polling suggests, most Americans don’t like government forcing people to violate their religious convictions. That’s in line with tradition in a country that exempted those with religiously based conscientious objections from military service in a war in which more than 400,000 Americans were killed.

The third issue is the Keystone XL pipeline, which would transport oil produced from tar sands in Canada to United States refineries and create thousands of jobs in the process.

Earlier this year, Susie Buell Tompkins, John Kerry’s fourth-biggest money-raiser in 2004, picketed outside an Obama fundraiser at San Francisco’s W Hotel to protest the pipeline. She wanted Obama’s State Department to block it because she thinks tar sands production hurts the environment and the planet.

Our neighbors the Canadians, who are not unconcerned about the environment themselves, disagree. The pipeline’s promoters say it would produce 20,000 American jobs and would tend to lower U.S. gas prices.

Obama came out on Tompkins’ side and blocked the pipeline.

If the same-sex marriage reversal seems somewhat risky politically and the contraception mandate considerably riskier, the Keystone pipeline decision seems downright foolish politically. Voters tend to favor it by 2-1 margins, and if they’re not aware of it, the Republicans (and maybe the pro-pipeline unions) will make sure they are.

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The question is, is he listening to anyone else?

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  1. citizen_q
    1 | June 13, 2012 4:02 pm

    The question is, is he listening to anyone else?

    valerie jarrett and george soros.


  2. yenta-fada
    2 | June 13, 2012 4:15 pm

    Zero is like the bank robber Willy Sutton. He goes where the money is.


  3. Speranza
    3 | June 13, 2012 4:16 pm

    An echo chamber of clueless, elitist, hacks who support socialism for every one but themselves.


  4. Speranza
    4 | June 13, 2012 4:16 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    The question is, is he listening to anyone else?

    valerie jarrett and george soros.

    The new book “The Amateur” really does a number on Valerie Jarrett.


  5. yenta-fada
    5 | June 13, 2012 4:20 pm

    Barack is not a total introvert. As we all know, he is a malignant narcissist who doesn’t give a cr@p about anybody but himself. His beard and children are accessories. It is impossible for the average person to comprehend the lack of human feeling in this man. I worked with autistic children for a while, so I have a better idea. They were not malignant. Key difference.


  6. citizen_q
    6 | June 13, 2012 4:20 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Has there ever been a more evil crew at the reigns of power of this country?


  7. yenta-fada
    7 | June 13, 2012 4:21 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    The question is, is he listening to anyone else?

    valerie jarrett and george soros.

    The new book “The Amateur” really does a number on Valerie Jarrett.

    We have it on order. I’m going through that thing like an ice cream cone when it arrives.


  8. yenta-fada
    8 | June 13, 2012 4:23 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Has there ever been a more evil crew at the reigns of power of this country?

    The problem is that people HAVE NO IDEA. They smell the failure, but don’t know the evil. They still have vestiges of trust in government.
    The elder Bush referred to us as ‘useless eaters’. No more social contract. Everybody for themselves.


  9. 9 | June 13, 2012 4:23 pm

    Repost from the previous thread:

    4 years ago today “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”–Barack Hussein Obama, speaking about Republicans at a campaign event in Philadelphia.


  10. Speranza
    10 | June 13, 2012 4:23 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We have it on order. I’m going through that thing like an ice cream cone when it arrives.

    I read it on Kindle -- it practically read itself. I finished it in no time. Right now I am reading Jonah Goldberg’s “The Tyranny of Cliches”.


  11. yenta-fada
    11 | June 13, 2012 4:24 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    An echo chamber of clueless, elitist, hacks who support socialism for every one but themselves.

    And that’s just the media!


  12. Lily
    12 | June 13, 2012 4:25 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yep it does …. it appears he takes her advice and no elses well besides his wife.


  13. Speranza
    13 | June 13, 2012 4:26 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Repost from the previous thread:
    4 years ago today “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”–Barack Hussein Obama, speaking about Republicans at a campaign event in Philadelphia.

    Wonderful imagery (from The Untouchables -- mouthed by Sean Connery I believe). Can you imagine the hoopla if Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin said something like that?


  14. Speranza
    14 | June 13, 2012 4:26 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Has there ever been a more evil crew at the reigns of power of this country?

    Not in my lifetime and I am including the Nixon bunch who at least loved America.


  15. Speranza
    15 | June 13, 2012 4:27 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Yep it does …. it appears he takes her advice and no elses well besides his wife.

    She is a malignant influence on him. She also alienated Michelle Obama from Oprah Winfrey. Bwaaah.


  16. Speranza
    16 | June 13, 2012 4:29 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Barack is not a total introvert. As we all know, he is a malignant narcissist who doesn’t give a cr@p about anybody but himself. His beard and children are accessories. It is impossible for the average person to comprehend the lack of human feeling in this man. I worked with autistic children for a while, so I have a better idea. They were not malignant. Key difference.

    I do not find a single thing about him to be likeable.


  17. heysoos
    17 | June 13, 2012 4:29 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Nixon, the apex of intrigue, deceit and crime…but he got the job done…this was well before the curse of AmIdol politics


  18. Lily
    18 | June 13, 2012 4:29 pm

    bho really shot himself in the foot with Keystone pipeline. Creates thousands of jobs and brings cheap oil to the U.S. for us to refine which creates more jobs. Any dithering idiot would know the pipeline is a good thing. Even Congress tried to override him on this. But he continues to double-down on stupid. If it helps the American people it’s double no-good in his opinion.


  19. Speranza
    19 | June 13, 2012 4:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    bho really shot himself in the foot with Keystone pipeline. Creates thousands of jobs and brings cheap oil to the U.S. for us to refine which creates more jobs. Any dithering idiot would know the pipeline is a good thing. Even Congress tried to override him on this. But he continues to double-down on stupid. If it helps the American people it’s double no-good in his opinion.

    The Republicans need to be hitting him on all his miserable failures and terrible decisions. Unlike McCain, we have a guy in Romney who for all my misgivings -- is committed to winning.


  20. Lily
    20 | June 13, 2012 4:31 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Yep it does …. it appears he takes her advice and no elses well besides his wife.

    She is a malignant influence on him. She also alienated Michelle Obama from Oprah Winfrey. Bwaaah.

    Not only Oprah but a lot of other people too. I agree with you the book is an easy read and it does have sources in the back of the book.


  21. 21 | June 13, 2012 4:32 pm

    Not a joke!

    ‘Obama Boy’ Debuts


  22. yenta-fada
    22 | June 13, 2012 4:33 pm

    There’s a bigwig economic conference going on in Montreal right now that I have on in the background. Greenspan has said that the euro will not survive in its present form. Someone who sounds familiar to me named Strobe Talbott just said it was mostly the Republicans’ fault that there was such hyper-partisanship in America. All of this is happening out of the news and out of the U.S.


  23. 23 | June 13, 2012 4:33 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    george soros.

    You may not believe who I think was separated at birth from this guy!


  24. 24 | June 13, 2012 4:33 pm

    story link to my above!

    http://nation.foxnews.com/obama-boy/2012/06/13/obama-boy-debuts


  25. Speranza
    25 | June 13, 2012 4:34 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Not only Oprah but a lot of other people too. I agree with you the book is an easy read and it does have sources in the back of the book.

    It is a wonderful read and makes one want to scream “HOW DID THAT POSEUR EVER BECOME POTUS!”


  26. 26 | June 13, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    @ Speranza:

    They bring a gun, we bring a nuclear weapon. Simple as that.


  27. Speranza
    27 | June 13, 2012 4:34 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    story link to my above!
    http://nation.foxnews.com/obama-boy/2012/06/13/obama-boy-debuts

    “Obama Girl” from 2008 has abandoned him. I guess she too could not find a job.


  28. Speranza
    28 | June 13, 2012 4:35 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    @ Speranza:
    They bring a gun, we bring a nuclear weapon. Simple as that.

    Concise and to the point.


  29. Lily
    29 | June 13, 2012 4:35 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    bho really shot himself in the foot with Keystone pipeline. Creates thousands of jobs and brings cheap oil to the U.S. for us to refine which creates more jobs. Any dithering idiot would know the pipeline is a good thing. Even Congress tried to override him on this. But he continues to double-down on stupid. If it helps the American people it’s double no-good in his opinion.

    The Republicans need to be hitting him on all his miserable failures and terrible decisions. Unlike McCain, we have a guy who for all my misgivings – is committed to winning.

    I agree Mitt Romney is doing a lot better than I expected…and that was what I had hoped for. For all the Romney bashing being done he is actually bringing the fight to bho. Right now it is drip, drip, drip and rapid response to whatever bho says. Which will make bho make more and more mistakes because he actually cannot handle this type of attack. He needs tons of people adoring or worshiping him. Which just isn’t happening this time around.


  30. citizen_q
    30 | June 13, 2012 4:36 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I do not find a single thing about him to be likeable.

    That is because there isn’t anything to like.

    He a combination of an ambitious socialist narcissist who just happened to fit the suit and learned to leverage his race.

    The MFM had to say they loved him, not that those biased hypocrites needed much prodding. They faced banishment otherwise for racism.


  31. yenta-fada
    31 | June 13, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Your misgivings are correct imo. Jamie Dimon of J.P. Morgan was testifying before some important Senate committee. My hubby said that the Republicans were fawning all over him rather than asking the difficult questions. These big bankers buy off both sides. Having said that, OZERO needs to be kicked out of the WH bigtime. He’s a danger to the entire planet who knows nothing about anything important.


  32. Speranza
    32 | June 13, 2012 4:36 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Not only Oprah but a lot of other people too. I agree with you the book is an easy read and it does have sources in the back of the book.

    She sits in on National Security meetings even though she has no background in foreign affairs.


  33. 33 | June 13, 2012 4:37 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    “Obama Girl” from 2008 has abandoned him. I guess she too could not find a job.

    With them 54-double-D’s!!!!!


  34. Speranza
    34 | June 13, 2012 4:37 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Your misgivings are correct imo. Jamie Dimon of J.P. Morgan was testifying before some important Senate committee. My hubby said that the Republicans were fawning all over him rather than asking the difficult questions. These big bankers buy off both sides. Having said that, OZERO needs to be kicked out of the WH bigtime. He’s a danger to the entire planet who knows nothing about anything important.

    Good grief. They also need to tie him into the odious Jon Corzine.


  35. Speranza
    35 | June 13, 2012 4:38 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    “Obama Girl” from 2008 has abandoned him. I guess she too could not find a job.

    With them 54-double-D’s!!!!!

    Them 54 DD’s were all air.


  36. Lily
    36 | June 13, 2012 4:38 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Not only Oprah but a lot of other people too. I agree with you the book is an easy read and it does have sources in the back of the book.

    It is a wonderful read and makes one want to scream “HOW DID THAT POSEUR EVER BECOME POTUS!”

    Indeed! bho is truly our Manchurian president. He is the enemy.


  37. 37 | June 13, 2012 4:38 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    @ Speranza:
    They bring a gun, we bring a nuclear weapon. Simple as that.

    Not sure I could call Romney a nuke… but yea, I see what you mean.


  38. Speranza
    38 | June 13, 2012 4:38 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    He is a danger to the Free World.


  39. yenta-fada
    39 | June 13, 2012 4:39 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Not only Oprah but a lot of other people too. I agree with you the book is an easy read and it does have sources in the back of the book.

    It is a wonderful read and makes one want to scream “HOW DID THAT POSEUR EVER BECOME POTUS!”

    We vetted Ozero better at the swamp just based on the history that was available. People have lost their minds and are slowly coming to their senses.


  40. Speranza
    40 | June 13, 2012 4:39 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    That is because there isn’t anything to like.

    He is the ignoramus that the Left claimed that George W. Bush was.


  41. 41 | June 13, 2012 4:39 pm

    Macker wrote:

    With them 54-double-D’s!!!!!

    That would require a ‘woman’ with a 54 inch ribcage. LOL


  42. Speranza
    42 | June 13, 2012 4:40 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We vetted Ozero better at the swamp just based on the history that was available. People have lost their minds and are slowly coming to their senses.

    Oh the MSM knew who he was and they were determined that his story would not come out.


  43. heysoos
    43 | June 13, 2012 4:40 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Wall Street supports whoever supports them…the most destructive relationship ever…big money rules both parties


  44. Speranza
    44 | June 13, 2012 4:40 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    With them 54-double-D’s!!!!!

    That would require a ‘woman’ with a 54 inch ribcage. LOL

    A ‘woman’ who has not seen her feet in years.


  45. Speranza
    45 | June 13, 2012 4:41 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Wall Street supports whoever supports them…the most destructive relationship ever…big money rules both parties

    Obama won a majority of voters who earned under $35,000 a year and voters who earned over $200,000 a year (according to “The Amateur”).


  46. Speranza
    46 | June 13, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Wall Street are a bunch of unprincipled political whores.


  47. yenta-fada
    47 | June 13, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Corzine is ‘protected’ by the system that allowed him to get where he is. They would be happy to bring people to their knees as long as they could buy up real assets cheaply. That includes whole countries such as Greece. Spain has had a bailout which made the stock market go up for about 20 minutes. What the powers that be cannot afford is to have Italy go under. Frankly, in terms of debt, the US (and probably Canada) is Greece.


  48. citizen_q
    48 | June 13, 2012 4:45 pm

    @ Lily:
    By the same token any idiot could have given the order to take out osama. The chest-thumping was just plain stupid.


  49. yenta-fada
    49 | June 13, 2012 4:45 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    With them 54-double-D’s!!!!!

    That would require a ‘woman’ with a 54 inch ribcage. LOL

    Hellooo, citizen journalist. :-) Do you have any plans to do another radio interview?


  50. Lily
    50 | June 13, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    Oh my word. This wasn’t done in snark either? The obama campagin thinks it’s great!
    Dear heavens.


  51. Speranza
    51 | June 13, 2012 4:48 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Corzine is ‘protected’ by the system that allowed him to get where he is. They would be happy to bring people to their knees as long as they could buy up real assets cheaply. That includes whole countries such as Greece. Spain has had a bailout which made the stock market go up for about 20 minutes. What the powers that be cannot afford is to have Italy go under. Frankly, in terms of debt, the US (and probably Canada) is Greece.

    Had Jon Corzine been a Republican he would’ve been thrown up as the poster boy of what Republicanism is all about. PMSNBC would be talking about him every night.


  52. yenta-fada
    52 | June 13, 2012 4:48 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Wall Street supports whoever supports them…the most destructive relationship ever…big money rules both parties

    Obama won a majority of voters who earned under $35,000 a year and voters who earned over $200,000 a year (according to “The Amateur”).

    That’s the middle class that Rev. Wright’s church wants to get rid of. Sheer Marxist class warfare. Wright is the only teacher that Ozero listened to for 20 years. It got him to the Presidency. Do you really think is wants to or is capable of a different strategy? I say no and that is what will bring him down. (along with the ignorant gaffes and mental illness)


  53. Speranza
    53 | June 13, 2012 4:50 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Which will make bho make more and more mistakes because he actually cannot handle this type of attack. He needs tons of people adoring or worshiping him. Which just isn’t happening this time around.

    He has a glass jaw. Netanyahu showed how to deal with Obama -- be polite but do not back down.


  54. yenta-fada
    54 | June 13, 2012 4:50 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Corzine is a Rethugblicrat.


  55. heysoos
    55 | June 13, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m pretty convinced at this point that BO will personally lose the election…he’s a political idiot


  56. Lily
    56 | June 13, 2012 4:52 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Lily:
    By the same token any idiot could have given the order to take out osama. The chest-thumping was just plain stupid.

    Exactly..did he even give any credit to the Navy Seals team that did it? No..it was all him. Although he had a B plan in place it failed so it wouldn’t hurt him politically. Disgusting.


  57. Speranza
    57 | June 13, 2012 4:57 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Corzine is a Rethugblicrat.

    He is a thin lipped sociopath who has zero empathy.


  58. Speranza
    58 | June 13, 2012 4:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Exactly..did he even give any credit to the Navy Seals team that did it? No..it was all him. Although he had a B plan in place it failed so it wouldn’t hurt him politically. Disgusting.

    The biggest disgrace was letting the Pakistanis off the hook for harboring Osama.


  59. yenta-fada
    59 | June 13, 2012 4:59 pm

    Moochelle hawking her book to unicorns. A FLOTUS using the WH to make money on the side. There’s always a first time.

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/05xT0hy3E77Uc?__site=daylife&q=michelle+obama


  60. Speranza
    60 | June 13, 2012 4:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m pretty convinced at this point that BO will personally lose the election…he’s a political idiot

    It will be close but I am more optimistic then I was earlier this year.


  61. yenta-fada
    61 | June 13, 2012 5:00 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Exactly..did he even give any credit to the Navy Seals team that did it? No..it was all him. Although he had a B plan in place it failed so it wouldn’t hurt him politically. Disgusting.

    The biggest disgrace was letting the Pakistanis off the hook for harboring Osama.

    Isn’t Panetta going after Pakistan? Seriously, I can’t keep track of the ‘Ministry of Making Sh!t Up’.


  62. heysoos
    62 | June 13, 2012 5:00 pm

    BO killed OBL with his bare hands, chewed off his face and ate his brains….fact


  63. Speranza
    63 | June 13, 2012 5:00 pm

    Obama’s lack of graciousness when W. visited the White House the other day for the unveiling of his portrait sums up what Obama is all about.


  64. Speranza
    64 | June 13, 2012 5:01 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    BO killed OBL with his bare hands, chewed off his face and ate his brains….fact

    He went all Chuck Norris on him.


  65. Lily
    65 | June 13, 2012 5:01 pm

    This has got to burn since he loves them so much.


    Poll: Obama’s Approval Rating In Muslim World Nosedives

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/13/poll-obamas-approval-rating-in-muslim-world-nosedives/


  66. Speranza
    66 | June 13, 2012 5:01 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Isn’t Panetta going after Pakistan? Seriously, I can’t keep track of the ‘Ministry of Making Sh!t Up’

    Barky has a soft spot for the Pock-ee-stahnis.


  67. Speranza
    67 | June 13, 2012 5:02 pm

    “Leon Panetta” -- now there’s a name to strike fear into our enemies. //


  68. Speranza
    68 | June 13, 2012 5:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    This has got to burn since he loves them so much.

    Poll: Obama’s Approval Rating In Muslim World Nosedives

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/13/poll-obamas-approval-rating-in-muslim-world-nosedives/

    Bwaaaaahhhhhh!
    Obama will decide to double down on picking quarrels with Israel.


  69. Lily
    69 | June 13, 2012 5:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Exactly..did he even give any credit to the Navy Seals team that did it? No..it was all him. Although he had a B plan in place it failed so it wouldn’t hurt him politically. Disgusting.

    The biggest disgrace was letting the Pakistanis off the hook for harboring Osama.

    Not only that but left the man that got us some of the intell flying in the wind! Unreal.


  70. heysoos
    70 | June 13, 2012 5:03 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Leon ‘the Napkin’ Panetta


  71. Speranza
    71 | June 13, 2012 5:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Moochelle hawking her book to unicorns.

    Soon to appear alongside Jimmy Carter’s “books” at the Wal-Mart $1 bins.


  72. Speranza
    72 | June 13, 2012 5:04 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Leon ‘the Napkin’ Panetta

    He looks like a Mafia Don in one of those Steven Seagal films form the 1980′s.


  73. Lily
    73 | June 13, 2012 5:05 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Obama’s lack of graciousness when W. visited the White House the other day for the unveiling of his portrait sums up what Obama is all about.

    Tell me about it. He was just horrible. He was disgusting.


  74. 74 | June 13, 2012 5:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    This has got to burn since he loves them so much.

    Poll: Obama’s Approval Rating In Muslim World Nosedives

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/13/poll-obamas-approval-rating-in-muslim-world-nosedives/

    Damn, who broke the reset button?


  75. Speranza
    75 | June 13, 2012 5:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Not only that but left the man that got us some of the intell flying in the wind! Unreal.

    That is so sickening. Why trust the USA when a Democrat is in power?


  76. yenta-fada
    76 | June 13, 2012 5:06 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m pretty convinced at this point that BO will personally lose the election…he’s a political idiot

    It will be close but I am more optimistic then I was earlier this year.

    There is a whole story going up vis a vis the Iranian oil sanctions. An international clearing system for world trade called SWIFT has shut Iran out. By the end of June, there are some economic tremors going on wrt to working outside the SWIFT settlement system. Nations such as China, Brazil, and Russia are using their own national currencies to trade with Iran. That means these trades go on OUTSIDE of the US dollar. The fact that commodities are priced in US dollars is a big deal. It keeps the dollar in use as the world’s reserve currency. By trading outside the dollar, it weakens the dollar as the currency of global use. It’s a big deal, and one that gets lost in the media.


  77. Speranza
    77 | June 13, 2012 5:06 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Tell me about it. He was just horrible. He was disgusting.

    Contrast that when Bill Clinton came to the White House for his portrait unveiling when W. was president.

    Class (W.) v. Classless (Obama).


  78. Lily
    78 | June 13, 2012 5:08 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    BO killed OBL with his bare hands, chewed off his face and ate his brains….fact

    He went all Chuck Norris on him.

    No Chuck Norris would have done no such thing. Chuck Norris’s stare would have made osama bin laden instantly burst into flames. ;)


  79. Speranza
    79 | June 13, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Obama really wants to work with Ahmadinejad instead of replacing him with someone with sanity.


  80. 80 | June 13, 2012 5:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Oh my word. This wasn’t done in snark either? The obama campagin thinks it’s great!
    Dear heavens.

    I’m pretty sure it’s a parody.


  81. Speranza
    81 | June 13, 2012 5:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    No Chuck Norris would have done no such thing. Chuck Norris’s stare would have made osama bin laden instantly burst into flames.

    Sounds more like Rambo.


  82. buzzsawmonkey
    82 | June 13, 2012 5:09 pm

    You have got to see the new Obama Boy video. You will not believe your eyes.


  83. Lily
    83 | June 13, 2012 5:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Not only that but left the man that got us some of the intell flying in the wind! Unreal.

    That is so sickening. Why trust the USA when a Democrat is in power?

    Really disgraceful.


  84. 84 | June 13, 2012 5:09 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Hellooo, citizen journalist. :-) Do you have any plans to do another radio interview?

    Not for a while. Too busy to start the show up now. Maybe one day..


  85. yenta-fada
    85 | June 13, 2012 5:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Obama really wants to work with Ahmadinejad instead of replacing him with someone with sanity.

    Zero wants the Muslims to love him. Doesn’t matter which ones. Any collateral damage he does to the US and Israel is gravy.


  86. Speranza
    86 | June 13, 2012 5:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Tell me about it. He was just horrible. He was disgusting.

    In front of Bush he was bitching about the problems he “inherited”. Hey Barky you inherited nothing -- you asked for the job.


  87. yenta-fada
    87 | June 13, 2012 5:10 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Hellooo, citizen journalist. Do you have any plans to do another radio interview?

    Not for a while. Too busy to start the show up now. Maybe one day..

    I’m really happy for you that your business is doing well!!!!!


  88. Speranza
    88 | June 13, 2012 5:10 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Zero wants the Muslims to love him. Doesn’t matter which ones. Any collateral damage he does to the US and Israel is gravy.

    Obama picking quarrels with Israel is a labor of love for him.


  89. buzzsawmonkey
    89 | June 13, 2012 5:10 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Zero wants the Muslims to love him. Doesn’t matter which ones.

    See the link in #82.


  90. Speranza
    90 | June 13, 2012 5:11 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Not for a while. Too busy to start the show up now. Maybe one day..

    How’s work? You can email me.


  91. 91 | June 13, 2012 5:11 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    You have got to see the new Obama Boy video. You will not believe your eyes.

    Is he a bro-mosexual?


  92. yenta-fada
    92 | June 13, 2012 5:11 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    You have got to see the new Obama Boy video. You will not believe your eyes.

    We were watching it. Can’t figure out if it’s real or snark. Life imitating art or the reverse????


  93. buzzsawmonkey
    93 | June 13, 2012 5:11 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    Dang, you beat me to it!

    Mind-boggling, no?


  94. Lily
    94 | June 13, 2012 5:12 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Oh my word. This wasn’t done in snark either? The obama campagin thinks it’s great!
    Dear heavens.

    I’m pretty sure it’s a parody.

    :lol: If I were obama I wouldn’t be too proud about it though.


  95. Speranza
    95 | June 13, 2012 5:12 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    You have got to see the new Obama Boy video. You will not believe your eyes.

    Is he a bro-mosexual?

    His gender is “evolving” as BHO likes to say.


  96. buzzsawmonkey
    96 | June 13, 2012 5:13 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We were watching it. Can’t figure out if it’s real or snark. Life imitating art or the reverse????

    I think it’s meant seriously. And I think it should be sent ’round to all the churches, especially those in the black community.


  97. Lily
    97 | June 13, 2012 5:13 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Tell me about it. He was just horrible. He was disgusting.

    In front of Bush he was bitching about the problems he “inherited”. Hey Barky you inherited nothing – you asked for the job.

    Bingo! You could tell neither of the obama’s liked being there.


  98. heysoos
    98 | June 13, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    another twit with an OBoner


  99. Speranza
    99 | June 13, 2012 5:14 pm

    OT -- check this facebook page out We support musicians who play for people- not governments.


  100. citizen_q
    100 | June 13, 2012 5:15 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Sending the Dali Lama out the side door with the trash, Leaving a meeting with Netanyahu to just stand there for “dinner with his family”, and sending the bust of Winston Churchill summed him up for me. His churlishness with Bush was just him acting true to form.


  101. Lily
    101 | June 13, 2012 5:15 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We were watching it. Can’t figure out if it’s real or snark. Life imitating art or the reverse????

    I think it’s meant seriously. And I think it should be sent ’round to all the churches, especially those in the black community.

    Excellent idea! It should just go viral and be sent everywhere really.


  102. buzzsawmonkey
    102 | June 13, 2012 5:16 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I’m pretty sure it’s a parody.

    I don’t think so. Remember how bewildered Obama’s people were—and the Left generally was—when the pro-Obamacare arguments died in front of the Supreme Court, and there were a number of articles pointing out that the Left lives in its own echo chamber which does not even countenance the possibility of a different sort of perception or point of view?

    This is another example of that phenomenon. The people who put this video together cannot conceive of there being another point of view which might consider an Obama sticker over somebody’s package as something grotesque rather than celebratory.


  103. Lily
    103 | June 13, 2012 5:17 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Sending the Dali Lama out the side door with the trash, Leaving a meeting with Netanyahu to just stand there for “dinner with his family”, and sending the bust of Winston Churchill sumed him up for me. His churlishness with Bush was just him acting true to form.

    No kidding there are so many more you could add…that he really is classless and don’t forget he just recently insulted Poland and refused to back down on that.


  104. Speranza
    104 | June 13, 2012 5:17 pm

    Anyone seen Philip Daniel lately? I cannnot remember the last time I saw a comment of his.


  105. RIX
    105 | June 13, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ Speranza:

    In front of Bush he was bitching about the problems he “inherited”. Hey Barky you inherited nothing – you asked for the job

    .

    Exactly! You inherit at the reading of a will.
    His campaign was akin to a job interview in which
    he told the American public that he had solutions.
    He was a U.S Senator and knew what the books looked like.
    BHO has never taken responsibility in his life.


  106. Speranza
    106 | June 13, 2012 5:18 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Sending the Dali Lama out the side door with the trash, Leaving a meeting with Netanyahu to just stand there for “dinner with his family”, and sending the bust of Winston Churchill summed him up for me. His churlishness with Bush was just him acting true to form.

    Contrary to what the drunk Christopher Buckley wrote in 2008, Obama doesn’t have a first class temperament at all.


  107. Speranza
    107 | June 13, 2012 5:19 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Exactly! You inherit at the reading of a will.
    His campaign was akin to a job interview in which
    he told the American public that he had solutions.
    He was a U.S Senator and knew what the books looked like.
    BHO has never taken responsibility in his life.

    He claimed he would do better so he invented a new category -- “jobs saved”.


  108. Lily
    108 | June 13, 2012 5:20 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I’m pretty sure it’s a parody.

    I don’t think so. Remember how bewildered Obama’s people were—and the Left generally was—when the pro-Obamacare arguments died in front of the Supreme Court, and there were a number of articles pointing out that the Left lives in its own echo chamber which does not even countenance the possibility of a different sort of perception or point of view?

    This is another example of that phenomenon. The people who put this video together cannot conceive of there being another point of view which might consider an Obama sticker over somebody’s package as something grotesque rather than celebratory.

    The obama campagin did indeed like the video. To which they should have been ashamed of it because of the sticker on the mans privates and him humping a cardboard obama and so many other things wrong on so many levels with that video.


  109. heysoos
    109 | June 13, 2012 5:22 pm

    what does a community organizer do to prepare for the presidency?


  110. citizen_q
    110 | June 13, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I was wondering also.


  111. yenta-fada
    111 | June 13, 2012 5:23 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    We were watching it. Can’t figure out if it’s real or snark. Life imitating art or the reverse????

    I think it’s meant seriously. And I think it should be sent ’round to all the churches, especially those in the black community.

    Prayers going up!


  112. Lily
    112 | June 13, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ RIX:

    Rix … don’t you agree with this…

    heysoos wrote:

    BO killed OBL with his bare hands, chewed off his face and ate his brains….fact

    He went all Chuck Norris on him.

    No Chuck Norris would have done no such thing. Chuck Norris’s stare would have made osama bin laden instantly burst into flames.


  113. 113 | June 13, 2012 5:24 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Contrary to what the drunk Christopher Buckley wrote in 2008, Obama doesn’t have a first class temperament at all.

    Thank God his father didn’t live to see that. Have you noticed that he’s pretty much fallen off the face of the Earth?


  114. yenta-fada
    114 | June 13, 2012 5:25 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Anyone seen Philip Daniel lately? I cannnot remember the last time I saw a comment of his.

    I was wondering the same thing. I miss him.


  115. eaglesoars
    115 | June 13, 2012 5:26 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Strobe Talbott

    Hiya yenta!

    Just logged in and haven’t read the whole thread so maybe someone’s already brought this up.

    Talbott is a MAJOR asshole. He’s been flogging for global gov’t for years.


  116. RIX
    116 | June 13, 2012 5:28 pm

    @ Speranza:

    He claimed he would do better so he invented a new category – “jobs saved”.

    And that could neither be proved or disproved. It just
    gave the Left a talking point, even though it is a
    preposterous assertion.


  117. The Osprey
    117 | June 13, 2012 5:28 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    “Leon Panetta” – now there’s a name to strike fear into our enemies. //

    Sounds like a chain of Italian bakeries.


  118. buzzsawmonkey
    118 | June 13, 2012 5:28 pm

    We need to drag Chuck Berry out of retirement and have him do:

    Vaseline
    Because we be screwed
    Oh, Vaseline
    Because we be screwed
    We got a President who ain’t got nothin’ but attitude

    In Two Thousand Eight the country went kinda strange
    Voted in a President promisin’ hope and change
    Didn’t take long though for folks to awake
    Findin’ out his love of country was nothin’ but fake
    Private sector’s reelin’ underneath his attack
    Hope somethin’ will be left when we take this land back

    Vaseline
    Because we be screwed
    Oh, Vaseline
    Because we be screwed
    We got a President who ain’t got nothin’ but attitude

    etc.


  119. The Osprey
    119 | June 13, 2012 5:29 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Leon ‘the Napkin’ Panetta

    He looks like a Mafia Don in one of those Steven Seagal films form the 1980′s.

    Leon “1/2 a loaf” Panetta.


  120. Lily
    120 | June 13, 2012 5:30 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Good one buzz!!


  121. heysoos
    121 | June 13, 2012 5:31 pm

    Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan are dead…the GOP that has emerged from those times does not impress me…marrying yourself to some political party sets you up…altho I will say that Romney looks like a genius compared to Palin, Perry, Paul and the rest of those total morons…Romney may well win the presidency, after that it’s pretty gloomy out there


  122. Buffalobob
    122 | June 13, 2012 5:32 pm

    We conservatives should take a lesson from progs. It’s all in the name. Tar Sand Oil, The name alone is frighting to progs. “Susie Buell Tompkins, John Kerry’s fourth-biggest money-raiser in 2004″ apposed the pipeline. I can hear her at cocktail party for the rich and famous saying ” My god what a disgusting thing to bring into the US” If we would have called the Canadian oil sands Butterfly nectar, it would have been a no brainier for the progs to accept. I sure that her and Kerry’s yachts run on pure sunshine.


  123. buzzsawmonkey
    123 | June 13, 2012 5:34 pm

    Buffalobob wrote:

    We conservatives should take a lesson from progs. It’s all in the name. Tar Sand Oil, The name alone is frighting to progs. “Susie Buell Tompkins, John Kerry’s fourth-biggest money-raiser in 2004″ apposed the pipeline. I can hear her at cocktail party for the rich and famous saying ” My god what a disgusting thing to bring into the US” If we would have called the Canadian oil sands Butterfly nectar, it would have been a no brainier for the progs to accept. I sure that her and Kerry’s yachts run on pure sunshine.

    Tar-Sands, King of the Tundra, with his loyal caribou Ukmuk—fighting for truth, justice and cheap energy!

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!


  124. eaglesoars
    124 | June 13, 2012 5:35 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    You have got to see the new Obama Boy video. You will not believe your eyes.

    The Romney campaign is freakin’ brilliant.


  125. Lily
    125 | June 13, 2012 5:36 pm

    Oh my … people are starting to talk….making enemies in all the wrong places…

    Former CIA Counterterrorism Chief: Obama Has Taken Agency Out Of Interrogating Business

    The Obama administration has taken the CIA “out of the business” of interrogating high-value terrorists and the lack of data is endangering the U.S. security, according to former CIA counterterrorism chief Jose A. Rodriguez.

    If U.S. intelligence or military personnel capture a senior terror leader today, no system is in place or facilities set up where he could be questioned, said the 31-year agency veteran who was awarded several medals for his intelligence work before retiring in 2007.

    “We are out of the business of doing that,” he said of terrorist leader interrogations in an interview with the Free Beacon. “We don’t have anywhere to take them. If you capture a high-value target outside the war zone, where [are] you going to take them? They are not taking prisoners in Guantanamo, [and] the black sites have been closed.”

    When U.S. special operations forces recently captured a terrorist in Sudan, the only place he could be questioned was aboard a Navy ship at sea, he said.

    “So we don’t have anywhere to take them, but even if we did, we are restricted by the Army field manual, so we are basically out of the interrogation business.” The manual restricts all interrogations to tactics outlined under international rules for questioning and treatment of prisoners of war in conventional conflicts.

    Rodriguez, author of the bestselling book Hard Measures, also said he and fellow CIA colleagues were disgusted by President Obama’s 2009 speech in Cairo asserting that U.S. officials were guilty of torture for harshly questioning terrorists.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/13/former-cia-counterterrorism-chief-obama-has-taken-agency-out-of-interrogating-business/


  126. heysoos
    126 | June 13, 2012 5:38 pm

    I’m sick and tired of millionaires, financed by billionaires running this country…you folks can duke it out who’s best…I’ll go smoke a bowl and count my cash


  127. RIX
    127 | June 13, 2012 5:38 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    We need to drag Chuck Berry out of retirement and have him do

    :

    I’m actually in St.Louis now,which is where he lives.
    Want me to have him give you a call?


  128. heysoos
    128 | June 13, 2012 5:39 pm

    @ RIX:
    don’t go near that crazy fucker…he’s gone


  129. The Osprey
    129 | June 13, 2012 5:40 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Contrary to what the drunk Christopher Buckley wrote in 2008, Obama doesn’t have a first class temperament at all.

    T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII of the National Topsider:
    “As a Conservative, I Must Say I Do Quite Like the Cut of this Obama Fellow’s Jib”

    Iowhawk mocked him mercilessly.


  130. buzzsawmonkey
    130 | June 13, 2012 5:40 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I’m actually in St.Louis now,which is where he lives.
    Want me to have him give you a call?

    I’d love it, but somehow I doubt he’d do a side that was not complimentary to the One.


  131. Speranza
    131 | June 13, 2012 5:43 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Thank God his father didn’t live to see that. Have you noticed that he’s pretty much fallen off the face of the Earth?

    “The soft and flabby face of a well fed appeaser.”


  132. eaglesoars
    132 | June 13, 2012 5:43 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Rodriguez, author of the bestselling book Hard Measures,

    That is a REALLY good book. I highly recommend it.


  133. Speranza
    133 | June 13, 2012 5:44 pm

    I hope that Romney throws up the BP oil spill and Obama’s juvenile remark “I can’t suck it all up with a straw”.


  134. The Osprey
    134 | June 13, 2012 5:45 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I’m sick and tired of millionaires, financed by billionaires running this country…you folks can duke it out who’s best…I’ll go smoke a bowl and count my cash

    CHOOM!


  135. 135 | June 13, 2012 5:46 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Thank you! I was trying to remember the other book I wanted to buy from iBooks.


  136. 136 | June 13, 2012 5:47 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    And that was the other one! Actually, I want that one in hardcover. Off to Amazon.


  137. heysoos
    137 | June 13, 2012 5:48 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I’m sick and tired of millionaires, financed by billionaires running this country…you folks can duke it out who’s best…I’ll go smoke a bowl and count my cash

    CHOOM!
    you stole my heart…curse you…
    I had a 75 Camper (junk) and an 85 Winny, water pumper in perfect condition…I’m seriopusly thinking rebuilding a vintage camper…I love those things, they make me horny


  138. Speranza
    138 | June 13, 2012 5:48 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan are dead…the GOP that has emerged from those times does not impress me…marrying yourself to some political party sets you up…altho I will say that Romney looks like a genius compared to Palin, Perry, Paul and the rest of those total morons…Romney may well win the presidency, after that it’s pretty gloomy out there

    I’ll go smoke a bowl and count my cash

    Every one of those folks would be infinitely preferable to Obama. Actually if you gave me Perry’s record, Romney’s poise and gravitas, Gingrich’s communication skills, and Palin’s crowd pleasing ability -- we would never lose.

    “Counting cash” -- that should not take too long.


  139. yenta-fada
    139 | June 13, 2012 5:48 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Strobe Talbott

    Hiya yenta!

    Just logged in and haven’t read the whole thread so maybe someone’s already brought this up.

    Talbott is a MAJOR asshole. He’s been flogging for global gov’t for years.

    Hi! Stepped away. I knew the name was familiar. These guys just repeat the same thing over and over and make money doing so. How dumb are people to hire them?


  140. The Osprey
    140 | June 13, 2012 5:49 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I’m sick and tired of millionaires, financed by billionaires running this country…you folks can duke it out who’s best…I’ll go smoke a bowl and count my cash

    Groovy, man!


  141. Speranza
    141 | June 13, 2012 5:50 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Thank you! I was trying to remember the other book I wanted to buy from iBooks.

    I would mail it to you but it is on my kindle.


  142. Speranza
    142 | June 13, 2012 5:50 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Talbott is a MAJOR asshole. He’s been flogging for global gov’t for years.

    When he wrote for Time Magazine he was a huge Israel basher.


  143. heysoos
    143 | June 13, 2012 5:52 pm

    @ Speranza:
    it doesn’t…I have it memorized…I no longer am involved in the stock market, sold all my gold last year, sold a house last month…I’m liquid, all cash, no debt and waiting to see what comes next


  144. eaglesoars
    144 | June 13, 2012 5:53 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I hope that Romney throws up the BP oil spill and Obama’s juvenile remark “I can’t suck it all up with a straw”.

    One of the reasons I hope Romney chooses Jindal as VP


  145. yenta-fada
    145 | June 13, 2012 5:54 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Talbott is a MAJOR asshole. He’s been flogging for global gov’t for years.

    When he wrote for Time Magazine he was a huge Israel basher.

    The consistent dripping hatred for Israel that has been going on for years has poisoned the world. I don’t know how the Israelis stand it.
    Seriously. At some point, when you have so many detractors, you have to feel like you are doing something wrong by simply existing.


  146. Speranza
    146 | June 13, 2012 5:57 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    The consistent dripping hatred for Israel that has been going on for years has poisoned the world. I don’t know how the Israelis stand it.
    Seriously. At some point, when you have so many detractors, you have to feel like you are doing something wrong by simply existing.

    Time Magazine, The New York Times, Washington Post, 60 Minutes -- have been the worst of the American media.


  147. Speranza
    147 | June 13, 2012 5:58 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    One of the reasons I hope Romney chooses Jindal as VP

    I want him to pick a governor -- anyone would look better then Joe Biden.


  148. Speranza
    148 | June 13, 2012 5:58 pm

    In “The Amateur” the author does a number on Samantha Power.


  149. Speranza
    149 | June 13, 2012 5:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    it doesn’t…I have it memorized…I no longer am involved in the stock market, sold all my gold last year, sold a house last month…I’m liquid, all cash, no debt and waiting to see what comes next

    Cash is King!


  150. RIX
    150 | June 13, 2012 5:59 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I’d love it, but somehow I doubt he’d do a side that was not complimentary to the One.

    The book on Chuck Berry here is that he is a grouchy
    contarian. He refused to show up to the dedication of
    a statue of HIM!
    So maybe he would be willing to swim against the tide.


  151. Lily
    151 | June 13, 2012 5:59 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Jindal is a governor, of Louisiana.


  152. eaglesoars
    152 | June 13, 2012 6:00 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    When he wrote for Time Magazine he was a huge Israel basher.

    I never read that rag, so I don’t know. I do know he was in the State Dept under Clinton and there’s some Yale thing about globalization.

    He was with Brookings, don’t know if he still is. He wrote a book about diplomacy and Russia (didn’t read it -- read the fawning review in the FT) -- I think he was angling to end up as Sec State in the Obama admin.

    Got run over by the Clintons.

    How stupid do you have to be to not see THAT coming?


  153. yenta-fada
    153 | June 13, 2012 6:00 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    I hope that Romney throws up the BP oil spill and Obama’s juvenile remark “I can’t suck it all up with a straw”.

    One of the reasons I hope Romney chooses Jindal as VP

    From what I’ve seen of Jindal, he is a very interesting choice. I hope he can stand the smear campaign that would inevitably arise.


  154. Speranza
    154 | June 13, 2012 6:01 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    From what I’ve seen of Jindal, he is a very interesting choice. I hope he can stand the smear campaign that would inevitably arise.

    Also the racism.


  155. yenta-fada
    155 | June 13, 2012 6:01 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Talbott was speaking as the HEAD of the Brookings Institute. Who pays these creeps?


  156. Lily
    156 | June 13, 2012 6:01 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Rodriguez, author of the bestselling book Hard Measures,

    That is a REALLY good book. I highly recommend it.

    I’ll have to check that book out. Thanks for the tip. ;)


  157. Speranza
    157 | June 13, 2012 6:02 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Talbott was speaking as the HEAD of the Brookings Institute. Who pays these creeps?

    I’ll bet Soros is one.


  158. eaglesoars
    158 | June 13, 2012 6:02 pm

    Good lord! Lefarge looks like she spends her tax free salary at a tanning salon.

    Fox news on the eurozone.

    The woman looks like an alligator


  159. Lily
    159 | June 13, 2012 6:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    I hope that Romney throws up the BP oil spill and Obama’s juvenile remark “I can’t suck it all up with a straw”.

    One of the reasons I hope Romney chooses Jindal as VP

    From what I’ve seen of Jindal, he is a very interesting choice. I hope he can stand the smear campaign that would inevitably arise.

    He knows the game and is thick-skinned. He doesn’t mind going against the grain, at all.


  160. Speranza
    160 | June 13, 2012 6:04 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    From 1994 Talbott recants criticism of Israel
    Talbott bashed Israel in 1981 in Time Magazine for destroying Saddam’s nuclear facility at Osirak.


  161. Lily
    161 | June 13, 2012 6:04 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    From what I’ve seen of Jindal, he is a very interesting choice. I hope he can stand the smear campaign that would inevitably arise.

    Also the racism.

    He is also Catholic which he will be attacked on.


  162. yenta-fada
    162 | June 13, 2012 6:04 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    In “The Amateur” the author does a number on Samantha Power.

    Hubby informed me that ‘The Amateur’ was sold out when he went to order it from the 2 largest booksellers in Canada.


  163. heysoos
    163 | June 13, 2012 6:05 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I’m an old pot dealer…cash rules, it’s the ultimate bottom line


  164. yenta-fada
    164 | June 13, 2012 6:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Good lord! Lefarge looks like she spends her tax free salary at a tanning salon.

    Fox news on the eurozone.

    The woman looks like an alligator

    According to ‘Wall Street Insider’ on Ulsterman, Lagarde ACTS like an alligator.


  165. heysoos
    165 | June 13, 2012 6:08 pm

    @ RIX:
    Berry is a monumental asshole…he deserves nothing except for a couple of songs and riffs that he has been well compensated for, thanks to Kieth Richards


  166. Lily
    166 | June 13, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Do you mean Lagarde?


  167. eaglesoars
    167 | June 13, 2012 6:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    He is also Catholic which he will be attacked on.

    Big time.

    Actually, when he first came on the scene I was a bit wary. He converted to Catholicism and in his early days was a bit enthusiastic -- like engaging in exorcisms. I don’t know how old he was at the time but he was young. Don’t think for a minute that the exorcism thing won’t come up.

    Also, that photo of Obama scolding Jindal on the tarmac -- that sucker is iconic of the arrogant son of a bitch Obama is -- and the Romney campaign could take it to the bank.


  168. eaglesoars
    169 | June 13, 2012 6:12 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Do you mean Lagarde?

    I TRIED to make a play on DeFarge.

    Oh well.


  169. heysoos
    170 | June 13, 2012 6:12 pm

    Jindal is a spooky guy…he’s old world voodoo, a freak


  170. RIX
    171 | June 13, 2012 6:14 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Jindal was in college when he & classmates tried
    to “help” a female classmate via exorcism. Oops!
    He apparently didn’t act in the capacity as the exorcist,
    but………………


  171. yenta-fada
    172 | June 13, 2012 6:14 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Zero treats everybody like they were ten years old and in need of schooling. Just another weird mannerism from His Weirdness in Chief.


  172. Lily
    173 | June 13, 2012 6:14 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Good lord! Lefarge looks like she spends her tax free salary at a tanning salon.

    Fox news on the eurozone.

    The woman looks like an alligator

    According to ‘Wall Street Insider’ on Ulsterman, Lagarde ACTS like an alligator.

    Yeah she is weapons grade one world economy if I am correct.


  173. yenta-fada
    174 | June 13, 2012 6:15 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Do you mean Lagarde?

    I TRIED to make a play on DeFarge.

    Oh well.

    I got it, and lo, it was good. hahaha


  174. citizen_q
    175 | June 13, 2012 6:15 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Don’t think for a minute that the exorcism thing won’t come up.

    As a counter it could be always be asked of obama if he always hated Jews, or was that something he picked up in the islamic madrassa he attended as a kid and reinforced by rev.wright?


  175. Lily
    176 | June 13, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    :lol:


  176. yenta-fada
    177 | June 13, 2012 6:16 pm

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Good lord! Lefarge looks like she spends her tax free salary at a tanning salon.

    Fox news on the eurozone.

    The woman looks like an alligator

    According to ‘Wall Street Insider’ on Ulsterman, Lagarde ACTS like an alligator.

    Yeah she is weapons grade one world economy if I am correct.

    That’s a very good description!


  177. RIX
    178 | June 13, 2012 6:16 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Berry is a monumental asshole…he deserves nothing except for a couple of songs and riffs that he has been well compensated for, thanks to Kieth Richards

    He might be an asshole, but the guy is a rock icon.


  178. yenta-fada
    179 | June 13, 2012 6:17 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Jindal was in college when he & classmates tried
    to “help” a female classmate via exorcism. Oops!
    He apparently didn’t act in the capacity as the exorcist,
    but………………

    I dare anybody to say they were never young and stupid.


  179. 180 | June 13, 2012 6:17 pm

    Lily wrote:

    The obama campagin did indeed like the video. To which they should have been ashamed of it because of the sticker on the mans privates and him humping a cardboard obama and so many other things wrong on so many levels with that video.

    The ass shaking segments are Ozero’s favorite parts!


  180. eaglesoars
    181 | June 13, 2012 6:19 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Jindal is a spooky guy…he’s old world voodoo, a freak

    evidence please?


  181. yenta-fada
    182 | June 13, 2012 6:19 pm

    You guys might want to drop in on Drudge. Too many things to post here. There’s a bunch of stuff hitting the rotating device.


  182. Lily
    183 | June 13, 2012 6:19 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Jindal is a spooky guy…he’s old world voodoo, a freak

    He is no such thing. Apparently you have watched too many movies.


  183. heysoos
    184 | June 13, 2012 6:20 pm

    @ RIX:
    yes, thanks to the Stones…he was only moderately successful at Chess records til Richards came along…and he resented them…the Stones made more money for him from his ‘Carol’ than he’d ever seen…he’s a jerk


  184. Lily
    185 | June 13, 2012 6:20 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Jindal was in college when he & classmates tried
    to “help” a female classmate via exorcism. Oops!
    He apparently didn’t act in the capacity as the exorcist,
    but………………

    Indeed he will be attacked on that.


  185. yenta-fada
    186 | June 13, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ RIX:

    I’m still laffing at what you said yesterday about the SWAT team in front of the WH yelling to send out the dog and nobody gets hurt. :-)


  186. 187 | June 13, 2012 6:21 pm

    Is it a parodyor is not? You decide.


  187. Lily
    188 | June 13, 2012 6:21 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    Jindal is a spooky guy…he’s old world voodoo, a freak

    evidence please?

    He’s Catholic which makes him a freak.


  188. RIX
    189 | June 13, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I dare anybody to say they were never young and stupid

    I would not hold it against him, as you say he was young.
    He is one of the really good governors & seems like
    a good guy.
    But, the Dem smear machine would go into high gear.
    The reason that they are effective is because the MSM
    is the media wing of the Dem smear machine.


  189. heysoos
    190 | June 13, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ Lily:
    yes, he’s spooky…anybody that thinks plate tectonics and volcano research is a waste of time is spooky, if not much worse…guys like him get people killed


  190. eaglesoars
    191 | June 13, 2012 6:22 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    You guys might want to drop in on Drudge. Too many things to post here

    Apparently. I can’t get in. Crashed.


  191. yenta-fada
    192 | June 13, 2012 6:22 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    Jindal is a spooky guy…he’s old world voodoo, a freak

    evidence please?

    Your request for evidence, imo, will never be answered. Some people are not interested in actual content.


  192. Lily
    193 | June 13, 2012 6:22 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    The obama campagin did indeed like the video. To which they should have been ashamed of it because of the sticker on the mans privates and him humping a cardboard obama and so many other things wrong on so many levels with that video.

    The ass shaking segments are Ozero’s favorite parts!

    I’m sure! ;)


  193. heysoos
    194 | June 13, 2012 6:23 pm

    @ Lily:
    why do you say that?


  194. yenta-fada
    195 | June 13, 2012 6:24 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    You guys might want to drop in on Drudge. Too many things to post here

    Apparently. I can’t get in. Crashed.

    World events are moving quickly, imo.


  195. RIX
    196 | June 13, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ Lily:

    He’s Catholic which makes him a freak.

    Oh yeah, we are all part of the Papist conspiracy./
    But BHO studying the Koran? No problem.


  196. eaglesoars
    197 | June 13, 2012 6:24 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    yes, he’s spooky…anybody that thinks plate tectonics and volcano research is a waste of time is spooky, if not much worse…guys like him get people killed

    Would you be kind enough to provide sources so that we can decide for ourselves?

    Thank you.


  197. Lily
    198 | June 13, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I have no idea what you are talking about. You mentioned voo-doo and then this.


  198. 199 | June 13, 2012 6:25 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Jindal was in college when he & classmates tried
    to “help” a female classmate via exorcism. Oops!
    He apparently didn’t act in the capacity as the exorcist,
    but………………

    I dare anybody to say they were never young and stupid.

    I was never young and stupid… I had to wait until I got old to get stupid… :razz:


  199. Lily
    200 | June 13, 2012 6:26 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    He’s Catholic which makes him a freak.

    Oh yeah, we are all part of the Papist conspiracy./
    But BHO studying the Koran? No problem.

    Yep. That’s the deal now days.


  200. heysoos
    201 | June 13, 2012 6:26 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    no, do your own research


  201. eaglesoars
    202 | June 13, 2012 6:28 pm

    Ok have drudge up.

    Russia and Syria. This is not news. WaPo put it on the front page today which just goes to show how brain dead they think their readers are.

    madonna’s butt. We’re about the same age.

    Mine’s better.


  202. yenta-fada
    203 | June 13, 2012 6:28 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Jindal was in college when he & classmates tried
    to “help” a female classmate via exorcism. Oops!
    He apparently didn’t act in the capacity as the exorcist,
    but………………

    I dare anybody to say they were never young and stupid.

    I was never young and stupid… I had to wait until I got old to get stupid…

    I’ll need a link to support that claim. lol


  203. eaglesoars
    204 | June 13, 2012 6:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    no, do your own research

    Which tells me everything I need to know.

    About you.


  204. buzzsawmonkey
    205 | June 13, 2012 6:29 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Jindal was in college when he & classmates tried
    to “help” a female classmate via exorcism. Oops!
    He apparently didn’t act in the capacity as the exorcist,
    but………………

    I thought everyone was all for fresh air and exorcise…


  205. heysoos
    206 | June 13, 2012 6:29 pm

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old


  206. heysoos
    207 | June 13, 2012 6:30 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Jindal is a national figure…get with it


  207. Lily
    208 | June 13, 2012 6:32 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Who cares if anyone is..raise your hands.
    /sounds just like lgf there


  208. buzzsawmonkey
    209 | June 13, 2012 6:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Actually, it only looks 6000 years old, because it has had work done.


  209. buzzsawmonkey
    210 | June 13, 2012 6:34 pm

    Obama is a Job Creationist; he believes that he’s produced jobs that don’t really exist.


  210. eaglesoars
    211 | June 13, 2012 6:34 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Russia and Syria.

    On the other hand……..this is blatant.

    He said: “We do not supply Syria or anyone else with resources that are used in fighting peaceful demonstrators” – and, seeking to turn the tables on Mrs Clinton, added, “unlike the United States, which regularly supplies that region with such special equipment, including one such shipment [that] went to one of the Gulf countries recently, but for some reason the Americans consider this to be in order”.

    This is for Hillary whose state dept misspelled ‘reset’.


  211. RIX
    212 | June 13, 2012 6:35 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I thought everyone was all for fresh air and exorcise

    Yeah, if he was jogging he would be home free.
    By the time the MSM got finished with him,
    half of the country would think the Jindal was
    the Grand Inquisitor.


  212. yenta-fada
    213 | June 13, 2012 6:35 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Ok have drudge up.

    Russia and Syria. This is not news. WaPo put it on the front page today which just goes to show how brain dead they think their readers are.

    madonna’s butt. We’re about the same age.

    Mine’s better.

    Hubba hubba for your hubby. :-) wrt Drudge, I was also talking about events in Europe. The Greeks are likely to vote far left over the weekend which tosses the Eurozone into a mess. There’s a huge bank run in Greece. Not a big country, but a big precedent.


  213. heysoos
    214 | June 13, 2012 6:36 pm

    @ Lily:
    it matter a lot to Jindal…he’s a nut


  214. 215 | June 13, 2012 6:36 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    I’m a Creationist, but I do not by any means believe that the world is only 6000 years old. Those Creationist that do are in fact a small minority of Creationists.


  215. RIX
    216 | June 13, 2012 6:36 pm

    Lily wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ Lily:
    He’s Catholic which makes him a freak.
    Oh yeah, we are all part of the Papist conspiracy./
    But BHO studying the Koran? No problem.
    Yep. That’s the deal now days.

    It is. It is open season on Catholics.


  216. yenta-fada
    217 | June 13, 2012 6:37 pm

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Who cares if anyone is..raise your hands.
    /sounds just like lgf there

    Heysoos brings the distinct smell of the swamp here. I already know his biography. THIS IS NOT A THERAPY BLOG.


  217. The Osprey
    218 | June 13, 2012 6:37 pm


  218. heysoos
    219 | June 13, 2012 6:38 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    he has his mojo workin


  219. 220 | June 13, 2012 6:38 pm

    Since when are Roman Catholics freaks and/or nuts? They are Christians, just like Protestants and Eastern/Greek Orthodox are!


  220. yenta-fada
    221 | June 13, 2012 6:38 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Actually, it only looks 6000 years old, because it has had work done.

    *Lily Tomlin phone operator snort*


  221. m
    222 | June 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I believe God created the earth and the moon and the stars and everything in between if that’s your question. But not the 6000 years ago thing.

    What does that make me?


  222. eaglesoars
    223 | June 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    The Greeks are likely to vote far left over the weekend which tosses the Eurozone into a mess. There’s a huge bank run in Greece. Not a big country, but a big precedent.

    I think the bank run in Greece is about 1.5 billion. I wonder where it’s going? Switzerland?

    Europe is going down and if anybody thinks the Germans are going to bail them out, they’re dreaming.

    However, they might just invade.

    No joke


  223. Lily
    224 | June 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I know more about Jindal than you do … he is the governor of my state. Because he is a Creationist and a Catholic he is a nut? Do I follow you there?
    I’m not going to go down this road with you. You are only trying to stir things up.


  224. 225 | June 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    I’m a Creationist, but I do not by any means believe that the world is only 6000 years old. Those Creationist that do are in fact a small minority of Creationists.

    I always convey to others that God is the Ultimate DM. He gets to pick how the Universe works.


  225. heysoos
    226 | June 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    yeah, I’m getting that from you…don’t rock the boat…we are monothithic and cannot handle controversy…got it


  226. coldwarrior
    227 | June 13, 2012 6:40 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    there are accusations that the US is actively arming the rebels.

    put one more point up on the side of the caliphate!


  227. heysoos
    228 | June 13, 2012 6:40 pm

    @ m:
    Jimi Hendrix?


  228. 229 | June 13, 2012 6:40 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Actually, it only looks 6000 years old, because it has had work done.

    Didn’t the Earth just flash her nipple in Turkey?


  229. heysoos
    230 | June 13, 2012 6:41 pm

    @ Lily:
    yes, he’s a nut….booga booga!


  230. 231 | June 13, 2012 6:41 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Didn’t the Earth just flash her nipple in Turkey?

    Madonna is a SLUT!


  231. The Osprey
    232 | June 13, 2012 6:42 pm

    Is Legalizing Weed Obama’s October Surprise?

    h/t Drudge

    Wow, man….tttthhhhhhhhp!


  232. Lily
    233 | June 13, 2012 6:42 pm

    m wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    I believe God created the earth and the moon and the stars and everything in between if that’s your question. But not the 6000 years ago thing.

    What does that make me?

    Dear heavens {{m}} you. are. a. creationist! Oh my!!!!!!
    /so am I…so I must be a damn nut too. ;)


  233. buzzsawmonkey
    234 | June 13, 2012 6:43 pm

    m wrote:

    I believe God created the earth and the moon and the stars and everything in between if that’s your question. But not the 6000 years ago thing.

    What does that make me?

    Reasonable.

    I certainly believe in the Tower of Babel, because we see it being constantly rebuilt in our own day. Think of how far away the heavens were in ancient times, compared with today when we can spy into them with probes and telescopes and have even sent people to the moon. Yet the people of ancient times decided to build a tower “to the heavens” to make war upon God, and to make a name for themselves.

    You know who’s doing that today? The militant atheists with their belief in Darwin as the Prophet of the Anti-God, the modern-day pagans with their idolatrous Earth-worship and their barbarous global-warming rituals.

    The Tower of Babel is the story of human arrogance setting itself above the divine, and we see that every day.


  234. yenta-fada
    235 | June 13, 2012 6:43 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    yeah, I’m getting that from you…don’t rock the boat…we are monothithic and cannot handle controversy…got it

    You are only about YOU. It’s boring. Again, THIS IS NOT A THERAPY BLOG.


  235. Lily
    236 | June 13, 2012 6:44 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ Lily:
    He’s Catholic which makes him a freak.
    Oh yeah, we are all part of the Papist conspiracy./
    But BHO studying the Koran? No problem.
    Yep. That’s the deal now days.

    It is. It is open season on Catholics.

    Don’t I know it.


  236. RIX
    237 | June 13, 2012 6:44 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Since when are Roman Catholics freaks and/or nuts? They are Christians, just like Protestants and Eastern/Greek Orthodox are!

    Ever since the Dems discovered that they needed a new
    whipping boy. Catholics are a great target becuse it is not
    a class of “Victims”. Ergo Catholics must be oppressors.
    Hey Reagan starred in a movie about Norte Dame!/


  237. yenta-fada
    238 | June 13, 2012 6:44 pm

    m wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    I believe God created the earth and the moon and the stars and everything in between if that’s your question. But not the 6000 years ago thing.

    What does that make me?

    A smart Southern Belle who works tirelessly behind the scenes to keep this blog running. Thank you, thank you!


  238. coldwarrior
    239 | June 13, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    i refer to them as ‘evangelical atheists’


  239. m
    240 | June 13, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yeah, that was a big ass bigotry brush huh?


  240. heysoos
    241 | June 13, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ Macker:
    Dorian makes sense this time…listen to him…
    evolution and God are one in the same…if we are Gods children then we must accept the science…maybe it’s a puzzle we are left to figure out, but to regress backward 6000 years and say this is where it began is lunacy…Jindal had this point of view 2 years ago….maybe he’s evolved


  241. RIX
    242 | June 13, 2012 6:46 pm

    @ Lily:
    Got one for ya,
    The Son of God was named Jesus, because Chuck
    Norris was taken.


  242. eaglesoars
    243 | June 13, 2012 6:46 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    there are accusations that the US is actively arming the rebels.

    And I believe it. I also believe that Russia is helping Assad.

    This is common sense. Altho’ after the Arab Spring debacle in Egypt, I think we probably should have stayed out of it.

    Putin is not an idiot. He will fight the islamists till his dying day.

    The day may come when we look back and realize we owe him. Hate to say it.

    Like Zhukov. I get a bit peeved when I hear how the U.S. basically won WW II.

    I don’t think it ever would have happened w/o Russia


  243. yenta-fada
    244 | June 13, 2012 6:46 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    The Tower of Babel is a good metaphor. I just don’t like the ending.


  244. coldwarrior
    245 | June 13, 2012 6:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Got one for ya,
    The Son of God was named Jesus, because Chuck
    Norris was taken.

    NICE!!!!

    i am stealing that one!


  245. buzzsawmonkey
    246 | June 13, 2012 6:48 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Didn’t the Earth just flash her nipple in Turkey?

    Was Turkey in the straw?


  246. m
    247 | June 13, 2012 6:48 pm

    @ heysoos:

    HAHAHAHA!

    You’re funny. Stick around. But don’t mistake people calling you on shit as not allowing controversy.


  247. RIX
    248 | June 13, 2012 6:48 pm

    @ heysoos:
    I don’t care if Jidal thinks that his dog is the Deity.
    He isn’t trying to impose his views.
    He knows how to govern .


  248. coldwarrior
    249 | June 13, 2012 6:49 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    agreed


  249. m
    250 | June 13, 2012 6:49 pm

    er… handling controversy.


  250. heysoos
    251 | June 13, 2012 6:49 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    let Putin have Syria if that is his intention…so what?…if he’s lost confidence in Irans influence then he will step in just to smack Obama if for no other reason…go to the UN and rage, see what they say


  251. m
    252 | June 13, 2012 6:50 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Oh no, I have much better hair and my talents lay elsewhere.


  252. Lily
    253 | June 13, 2012 6:50 pm

    @ RIX:

    :lol: Good one!


  253. 254 | June 13, 2012 6:50 pm

    Listening to anyone? Snort! All deer reader does is stutters his way though whats on the teleprompter. And just a reminder, don’t shake hands with men like Trumka until you are sure its not their hand up his anus.


  254. yenta-fada
    255 | June 13, 2012 6:50 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    The Greeks are likely to vote far left over the weekend which tosses the Eurozone into a mess. There’s a huge bank run in Greece. Not a big country, but a big precedent.

    I think the bank run in Greece is about 1.5 billion. I wonder where it’s going? Switzerland?

    Europe is going down and if anybody thinks the Germans are going to bail them out, they’re dreaming.

    However, they might just invade.

    No joke

    I don’t know how long Merkel will be able to tolerate the pressure. She is the only fiscally responsible large country in Europe. I can’t see war inside Europe. I can see massive civil unrest in a number of countries who have run out of other peoples money.


  255. buzzsawmonkey
    256 | June 13, 2012 6:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    It is open season on Catholics.

    Mormon season! Catholic season!

    Geez, where are Bugs, Daffy and Elmer when you really need ‘em?


  256. RIX
    257 | June 13, 2012 6:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Be my guest.:)


  257. heysoos
    258 | June 13, 2012 6:51 pm

    @ RIX:
    we’ll see how it unfolds…I don’t really take sides too often, but Jindal is a lunatic, so hate me


  258. buzzsawmonkey
    259 | June 13, 2012 6:52 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I just don’t like the ending.

    Hey, Nimrod was the king who built the original Tower, and the modern-day Tower of Babel builders are also a bunch of nimrods.


  259. eaglesoars
    260 | June 13, 2012 6:52 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I can’t see war inside Europe.

    I see it very easily.


  260. RIX
    261 | June 13, 2012 6:52 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Joy Behar thainks that Romney has a Morman fire department.
    Damn it, what about my house?


  261. Lily
    262 | June 13, 2012 6:52 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Jindal believe’s in science. I honestly don’t know what you are talking about.


  262. m
    263 | June 13, 2012 6:53 pm

    @ Lily:

    {{Lily}}! And we’re happy nuts, too!


  263. yenta-fada
    264 | June 13, 2012 6:53 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I can’t see war inside Europe.

    I see it very easily.

    I’m interested in knowing your views, if you care to share them.


  264. buzzsawmonkey
    265 | June 13, 2012 6:54 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Joy Behar thainks that Romney has a Morman fire department.

    Hey, it’s Barack Obama who wants to tax you so that you can hire More Mans for your fire department!

    /loony Democrat off


  265. heysoos
    266 | June 13, 2012 6:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    why is there never an open season on our friends in Congress?


  266. eaglesoars
    267 | June 13, 2012 6:54 pm

    @ m:

    yes, and let me take this opportunity to say thanks to you and all the other admins for the refuge……..

    *smooch*


  267. RIX
    268 | June 13, 2012 6:55 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ RIX:
    we’ll see how it unfolds…I don’t really take sides too often, but Jindal is a lunatic, so hate me

    Hate you? Dude get a grip.


  268. eaglesoars
    269 | June 13, 2012 6:55 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I’m interested in knowing your views, if you care to share them.

    I’ll write it up for an email. Don’t want to bore/derail the thread.


  269. Lily
    270 | June 13, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ m:

    :lol: Very happy!!


  270. m
    271 | June 13, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    AHH {{YENTAAA}}!


  271. heysoos
    272 | June 13, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ Lily:
    google Jindal and the Volcano…it’s a hoot


  272. yenta-fada
    273 | June 13, 2012 6:56 pm

    m wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    AHH {{YENTAAA}}!

    {{{m}}}


  273. buzzsawmonkey
    274 | June 13, 2012 6:57 pm

    I don’t understand this weirdo “believes in science” shit. What the hell does that mean? Do I care if the President of the US is up on the latest news about Java Man and Pithecanthropus? Hell, no—I want him to be able to tell the Islamists to go to hell, and blow them there if they don’t go nicely of their own accord.

    America rose to become the greatest country in the world while being led by men who, for the most part, believed in God and believed that the Bible was the Word of God. They may not have been up on plate tectonics, but they passed budgets and negotiated treaties and did all sorts of other things that Barack Obama is wholly incapable of doing—at least if it looks as though it will benefit this country.


  274. RIX
    275 | June 13, 2012 6:57 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Hey, it’s Barack Obama who wants to tax you so that you can hire More Mans for your fire department!

    /loony Democrat off

    Word up, Romney wants your babies to die in house fires.


  275. heysoos
    276 | June 13, 2012 6:57 pm

    @ RIX:
    I don’t care so much…I don’t hold grudges…we’re all in it together


  276. 277 | June 13, 2012 6:58 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:
    Didn’t the Earth just flash her nipple in Turkey?
    Was Turkey in the straw?


  277. yenta-fada
    278 | June 13, 2012 6:58 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I’m interested in knowing your views, if you care to share them.

    I’ll write it up for an email. Don’t want to bore/derail the thread.

    It would make a great thread! Ask any admin. The history and political buffs would love to discuss those issues.


  278. Lily
    279 | June 13, 2012 6:59 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Booga booga volcanos! We have so many here in Louisiana.


  279. eaglesoars
    280 | June 13, 2012 6:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    we’re all in it together

    News Flash!

    You’re on your own.


  280. yenta-fada
    281 | June 13, 2012 6:59 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    i refer to them as ‘evangelical atheists’

    That is a good term. You should trademark it. :-)


  281. m
    282 | June 13, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    And we thank yous all!
    Y’all make the blog.


  282. yenta-fada
    283 | June 13, 2012 7:00 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    we’re all in it together

    News Flash!

    You’re on your own.

    UPPY DINGY.


  283. RIX
    284 | June 13, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I don’t understand this weirdo “believes in science” shit. What the hell does that mean? Do I care if the President of the US is up on the latest news about Java Man and Pithecanthropus

    Alright Buster, you are never getting your LGF account
    unblocked.


  284. eaglesoars
    285 | June 13, 2012 7:01 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    yenta-fada wrote:
    I’m interested in knowing your views, if you care to share them.
    I’ll write it up for an email. Don’t want to bore/derail the thread.
    It would make a great thread! Ask any admin. The history and political buffs would love to discuss those issues.

    I’ll write it up for you. It’s nothing anyone here doesn’t know -- people would probably be bored.


  285. heysoos
    286 | June 13, 2012 7:01 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    after the Louisiana Purchase and the war with Mexico I’d have to say we have done better than that punk Napoleon


  286. m
    287 | June 13, 2012 7:02 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Yes!

    Hook us up Eaglesoars!


  287. Lily
    288 | June 13, 2012 7:02 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I don’t understand this weirdo “believes in science” shit. What the hell does that mean? Do I care if the President of the US is up on the latest news about Java Man and Pithecanthropus? Hell, no—I want him to be able to tell the Islamists to go to hell, and blow them there if they don’t go nicely of their own accord.

    America rose to become the greatest country in the world while being led by men who, for the most part, believed in God and believed that the Bible was the Word of God. They may not have been up on plate tectonics, but they passed budgets and negotiated treaties and did all sorts of other things that Barack Obama is wholly incapable of doing—at least if it looks as though it will benefit this country.

    Excellent post buzz. We do have scientists that do keep track of things….also scientists that believe in AGW…and they are nuts.


  288. coldwarrior
    289 | June 13, 2012 7:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    I’m interested in knowing your views, if you care to share them.
    I’ll write it up for an email. Don’t want to bore/derail the thread.

    It would make a great thread! Ask any admin. The history and political buffs would love to discuss those issues.

    what a great idea!

    a guest post from eaglesoars!


  289. Lily
    290 | June 13, 2012 7:03 pm

    m wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    And we thank yous all!
    Y’all make the blog.

    Can’t do it without your magic mojo {m}!!! Thanks!


  290. m
    291 | June 13, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Pshaw! I don’t have much to say on the history threads but I always learn a helluva lot!


  291. eaglesoars
    292 | June 13, 2012 7:04 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    a guest post from eaglesoars!

    Oh

    crap

    Ok

    It will take a few days.


  292. buzzsawmonkey
    293 | June 13, 2012 7:04 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Alright Buster, you are never getting your LGF account
    unblocked.

    Promise?

    I used to drive The Great Weeble crazy back when he’d start one of his evolution threads by pointing out that it was science’s job to be wrong, not right—since even when science is right it is only after being consistently wrong in failed experiment after failed experiment, and that “right” is usually provisional since it is expected to be disproved, supplanted, or expanded.

    He hated that, because I wasn’t being “anti-science,” but I wasn’t genuflecting at the brazen idol he was setting up either. You could tell he was itching to flick his ceremonial oxtail fly-whisk, but couldn’t see how to do it without looking more petty that he wanted to be.


  293. 294 | June 13, 2012 7:05 pm

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Yeah, that was a big ass bigotry brush huh?

    Assumptions like that are usual made out of basic ignorance rather than malice. A lot of people have heard Fifth Column Treasonous Media propaganda pieces about Creationism or Creationist and never realize just how selectively edited those propaganda pieces are.

    I know that heysoos professes to be an Atheist, and that he basically thinks all of us who believe in God are lacking in the cerebral department and that we really don’t have a proper or adequate education. This mentality is the groupthink of the Militant Atheist community.

    It is I believe, a coping mechanism, that allows them to reconcile intellectual concepts that in their minds seem irreconcilable. In so far as they believe that they have embraced a rational logical approach to viewing and understanding the world around them, and that rational logical approach insists that their is a rational and logical explanation to everything.

    When confronted by individuals who accept that their might not be a simply rational logical explanation to everything they jump to what seems to them the obvious conclusion, that those who do not embrace their version of a rational logical explanation must be lacking in either intelligence, education or both.


  294. m
    295 | June 13, 2012 7:06 pm

    @ Lily:

    I gotta do better than lately though. Y’all can blame the missing thumbnails and sporadic edits on this great economy and my second job!

    >:[


  295. coldwarrior
    296 | June 13, 2012 7:06 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    to add, i really dont care about evolution/creation. if we came from monkeys or were created by god would make zero difference in my life.


  296. coldwarrior
    297 | June 13, 2012 7:06 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    a guest post from eaglesoars!
    Oh
    crap
    Ok
    It will take a few days.

    okay!

    thanks


  297. yenta-fada
    298 | June 13, 2012 7:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    a guest post from eaglesoars!

    Oh

    Sorry. oops. It doesn’t have to be a treatise though. A couple of paragraphs and a couple of links will do.

    crap

    Ok

    It will take a few days.


  298. Lily
    299 | June 13, 2012 7:08 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Word.


  299. 300 | June 13, 2012 7:08 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Barack is not a total introvert. As we all know, he is a malignant narcissist who doesn’t give a cr@p about anybody but himself. His beard and children are accessories. It is impossible for the average person to comprehend the lack of human feeling in this man. I worked with autistic children for a while, so I have a better idea. They were not malignant. Key difference.

    I’ve been around some autistic people. Some of them do have the capacity to care about other people (though functioning in the real world still poses many challenges). And they are not in any way malignant.


  300. 301 | June 13, 2012 7:09 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    to add, i really dont care about evolution/creation. if we came from monkeys or were created by god would make zero difference in my life.

    God is perfectly capable of creating human beings out of the descendents of monkeys. I don’t care about the issue either.


  301. Lily
    302 | June 13, 2012 7:09 pm

    @ m:

    Oh you have been doing great. And thanks to all the admins here for allowing us to express our opinions. :)


  302. eaglesoars
    303 | June 13, 2012 7:10 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    if we came from monkeys or were created by god

    I’ve never found it mutually exclusive.


  303. heysoos
    304 | June 13, 2012 7:10 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    m wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Yeah, that was a big ass bigotry brush huh?

    Assumptions like that are usual made out of basic ignorance rather than malice. A lot of people have heard Fifth Column Treasonous Media propaganda pieces about Creationism or Creationist and never realize just how selectively edited those propaganda pieces are.
    I know that heysoos professes to be an Atheist, and that he basically thinks all of us who believe in God are lacking in the cerebral department and that we really don’t have a proper or adequate education. This mentality is the groupthink of the Militant Atheist community.
    It is I believe, a coping mechanism, that allows them to reconcile intellectual concepts that in their minds seem irreconcilable. In so far as they believe that they have embraced a rational logical approach to viewing and understanding the world around them, and that rational logical approach insists that their is a rational and logical explanation to everything.
    When confronted by individuals who accept that their might not be a simply rational logical explanation to everything they jump to what seems to them the obvious conclusion, that those who do not embrace their version of a rational logical explanation must be lacking in either intelligence, education or both.

    I do not judge people of faith, that’s wrong, but when you post your religious superiority I will speak out…we are equal regardless of religion


  304. Lily
    305 | June 13, 2012 7:12 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I look forward to your post also. ;)
    /you know a lot of history!


  305. buzzsawmonkey
    306 | June 13, 2012 7:12 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    to add, i really dont care about evolution/creation. if we came from monkeys or were created by god would make zero difference in my life.

    I always say that my belief in God fluctuates, but not my conviction that God believes in me.

    I would also point out that belief in God is necessary if no other way than as a “legal fiction” for the purpose of avoiding the arrogance that materialists invariably exhibit. The anti-God crowd really has no better explanation for the origins of life than the religionistas; they always fall back on “long, long periods of lots and lots of time” or “alien spawn,” neither of which really answers the question any better than the honesty of saying, “the Deity, who by His Nature is unknowable.”

    Of course, the Bible is not a science textbook; it is a moral textbook. That is actually why the materialists hate it so much and want to denigrate it by first wrongly declaring it a science textbook and then decreeing it is outmoded—because it is always the morality and not the science that they really want to destroy.


  306. RIX
    307 | June 13, 2012 7:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    It used to get so tedious when Charlie would do the
    Creationist/Evolutionist threads & there was a swarm
    to support him.
    Darwin when asked where the warm pool came from answered
    “The Creator of course”
    But he wasn’t half the scientist that Johnson is.


  307. m
    308 | June 13, 2012 7:12 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Who did that? Didn’t this start out as a slam against Jindal because he does believe in God?

    Apparently even atheists have their own religious superiority complexes.


  308. buzzsawmonkey
    309 | June 13, 2012 7:14 pm

    RIX wrote:

    [Darwin] wasn’t half the scientist that Johnson is.

    Hey, at least Darwin could grow his own beard.


  309. eaglesoars
    310 | June 13, 2012 7:14 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    I’ve been around some autistic people. Some of them do have the capacity to care about other people (though functioning in the real world still poses many challenges). And they are not in any way malignant.

    Temple Grandin has been a magnificant advocate. Also for animals.

    Hubby met her. He was in awe.


  310. yenta-fada
    311 | June 13, 2012 7:15 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    You might say that Science can start with a ‘null’ hypothesis, and then prove it wrong. Religion, if you start with a null hypothesis, there’s no place to go from there.


  311. coldwarrior
    312 | June 13, 2012 7:15 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ m:
    Oh you have been doing great. And thanks to all the admins here for allowing us to express our opinions.

    i am glad it has toned down a bit in here…the primary season was getting a bit crazy


  312. RIX
    313 | June 13, 2012 7:16 pm

    @ m:
    I concur with the rest.ou & the other admins do a great
    job & make this a fun place. You know unlike that other
    place………


  313. Lily
    314 | June 13, 2012 7:17 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yes it was.
    /trying to keep myself toned down! ;)


  314. 315 | June 13, 2012 7:18 pm

    The essence of God is not entirely knowable to man. It takes a belief, a leap a faith, curiosity and a letting go of ego. What I do know is that if you are not humble you will never find anything.


  315. buzzsawmonkey
    316 | June 13, 2012 7:19 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Dad always used to say that religion is the only vessel that has ever safely contained human non-rationality and harnessed it for good—and that if you try to suppress non-rationality or contain it in some other way, all you get is bad science.


  316. Lily
    317 | June 13, 2012 7:19 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    The essence of God is not entirely knowable to man. It takes a belief, a leap a faith, curiosity and a letting go of ego. What I do know is that if you are not humble you will never find anything.

    How very true.


  317. RIX
    318 | June 13, 2012 7:19 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    [Darwin] wasn’t half the scientist that Johnson is.
    Hey, at least Darwin could grow his own beard.

    True, but he never had the scientific apptitude of Charles
    Foster Johnson.


  318. Speranza
    319 | June 13, 2012 7:19 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I gotta do better than lately though. Y’all can blame the missing thumbnails and sporadic edits on this great economy and my second job!
    >:[

    You got a second job?


  319. Speranza
    320 | June 13, 2012 7:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’m an old pot dealer…cash rules, it’s the ultimate bottom line

    You mean you didn’t take plastic??


  320. Lily
    321 | June 13, 2012 7:22 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Almost sounds like an Einstein quote:

    Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.


  321. coldwarrior
    322 | June 13, 2012 7:23 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    m wrote:
    @ Lily:
    I gotta do better than lately though. Y’all can blame the missing thumbnails and sporadic edits on this great economy and my second job!
    >:[

    You got a second job?

    its people like M, so selfish, takes a second job!

    well, that’s WHY there is high unemployment!

    /obamabot rant off


  322. RIX
    323 | June 13, 2012 7:23 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    If faith was empiracally proveable, it would not be faith.
    If I thought that God was the god of the Koran, I would
    bale on the whole thing.
    Fortunately I see it differently


  323. Speranza
    324 | June 13, 2012 7:24 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Don’t think for a minute that the exorcism thing won’t come up.

    As a counter it could be always be asked of obama if he always hated Jews, or was that something he picked up in the islamic madrassa he attended as a kid and reinforced by rev.wright?

    Ask him who was his “blow” dealer in college?


  324. Speranza
    325 | June 13, 2012 7:25 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Of course some of the yahoos will claim he is not a “natural born” citizen -- wait they already have..


  325. heysoos
    326 | June 13, 2012 7:26 pm

    @ Speranza:
    long time ago bro…but I remember…my wife used to get so agitated listening to my history she’d get angry…I did what I did


  326. buzzsawmonkey
    327 | June 13, 2012 7:27 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Ask him who was his “blow” dealer in college?

    Or, how he managed to travel to Pakistan, and who he met there.


  327. eaglesoars
    328 | June 13, 2012 7:27 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    The essence of God is not entirely knowable to man

    I disagree.

    I spent all of my life until 2004 as an agnostic.

    evariste (anybody remember him) the apostate Palistinian Muslim explained to me the roots of the word YAHWEH

    I AM BEING.

    Something happened. Really. I was on my knees barely able to breathe. My body was not mine and that’s as best as I can explain.

    G-d came to visit.


  328. Speranza
    329 | June 13, 2012 7:27 pm

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    Jindal is a spooky guy…he’s old world voodoo, a freak

    He is no such thing. Apparently you have watched too many movies.

    Most likely spent too much time hanging around the Charles Johnson lunatic asylum at Little Green Balls.

    Just run a montage of Joe “Plugs” Biden’s greatest hits.


  329. yenta-fada
    330 | June 13, 2012 7:28 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Dad always used to say that religion is the only vessel that has ever safely contained human non-rationality and harnessed it for good—and that if you try to suppress non-rationality or contain it in some other way, all you get is bad science.

    Lucky you to have had a father so wise.


  330. RIX
    331 | June 13, 2012 7:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    its people like M, so selfish, takes a second job!

    well, that’s WHY there is high unemployment!

    Is she White? I saw her picture, pretty & all that,
    but White!
    That makes her an oppressor by definition.
    Well, unless she belongs to SEIU.


  331. m
    332 | June 13, 2012 7:29 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yeop. I’ll tell you about it next time we chat on the phone.


  332. 333 | June 13, 2012 7:29 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Alright Buster, you are never getting your LGF account
    unblocked.
    Promise?
    I used to drive The Great Weeble crazy back when he’d start one of his evolution threads by pointing out that it was science’s job to be wrong, not right—since even when science is right it is only after being consistently wrong in failed experiment after failed experiment, and that “right” is usually provisional since it is expected to be disproved, supplanted, or expanded.
    He hated that, because I wasn’t being “anti-science,” but I wasn’t genuflecting at the brazen idol he was setting up either. You could tell he was itching to flick his ceremonial oxtail fly-whisk, but couldn’t see how to do it without looking more petty that he wanted to be.

    As the old programming joke goes, there are 10 kinds of people in the world… Those who “Believe” in Science, and those who are Scientists.

    Science isn’t a belief system, it isn’t something you believe or do not believe. It is a methodology for solving problems. The term “Science” derives from “The Scientific Method”,

    scientific method

    noun
    a method of research in which a problem is identified, relevant data are gathered, a hypothesis is formulated from these data, and the hypothesis is empirically tested.

    which has come to mean

    sci·ence
       [sahy-uhns] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.
    2.
    systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
    3.
    any of the branches of natural or physical science.
    4.
    systematized knowledge in general.
    5.
    knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.

    No individual who is genuinely educated in the Physical Sciences “Believes” in Science, what they believe is that the methodology of the “Scientific Method” i.e. Science, consistently produces verifiable documentation of results. That those results, as a consequence of the consistency of their reproducible nature have an extremely high degree of confidence in being accurate representations of fact.

    People who “Believe” in Science seldom understand what “Science” actually is and for all practical purposes really believe in magic or voodoo.


  333. 334 | June 13, 2012 7:29 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Actually, it only looks 6000 years old, because it has had work done.

    So which is older, the earth or Madonna? She certainly looks a few days past 6,000…..
    Honestly, I’m a young earth creationist. I believe the Bible to be truth, and the lists of names in the geneology of Jesus is either truth, or its all a fable.


  334. Lily
    335 | June 13, 2012 7:30 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    The essence of God is not entirely knowable to man

    I disagree.

    I spent all of my life until 2004 as an agnostic.

    evariste (anybody remember him) the apostate Palistinian Muslim explained to me the roots of the word YAHWEH

    I AM BEING.

    Something happened. Really. I was on my knees barely able to breathe. My body was not mine and that’s as best as I can explain.

    G-d came to visit.

    That happens also. When it does it is a world shaker.


  335. Speranza
    336 | June 13, 2012 7:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Who cares if anyone is..raise your hands.
    /sounds just like lgf there

    In the sum of things does it really matter?
    It’s like saying raise your hands if you really think Jesus walked on water or was born to a virgin. What does it really matter in our day to day lives?
    To claim that Romney is anti science means that he is against something that saved his wife from dying from cancer. Bullshite!


  336. m
    337 | June 13, 2012 7:32 pm

    @ RIX:

    WHITE DEBIL IN THE HIZZOUSE!


  337. buzzsawmonkey
    338 | June 13, 2012 7:32 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    No individual who is genuinely educated in the Physical Sciences “Believes” in Science, what they believe is that the methodology of the “Scientific Method” i.e. Science, consistently produces verifiable documentation of results. That those results, as a consequence of the consistency of their reproducible nature have an extremely high degree of confidence in being accurate representations of fact.

    People who “Believe” in Science seldom understand what “Science” actually is and for all practical purposes really believe in magic or voodoo.

    Nicely said. My father would have agreed, even—especially—when he was sweating over why a particular experiment hadn’t worked out as expected.


  338. heysoos
    339 | June 13, 2012 7:34 pm

    face it…we could do a hell of alot better than Mitt Romney, or that stooge BO…when you put your money down on some tard like Bobby Jindal, you cut your own throat…and if a Jindal/Santorum/Perry sort o juggernaught comes down the theocratic road, I’m in full retreat


  339. RIX
    340 | June 13, 2012 7:34 pm

    m wrote:

    @ RIX:
    WHITE DEBIL IN THE HIZZOUSE!

    Yo Yo , what what! She debil!


  340. Lily
    341 | June 13, 2012 7:35 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    who’s a creationist?…raise your hand if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old

    Who cares if anyone is..raise your hands.
    /sounds just like lgf there

    In the sum of things does it really matter?
    It’s like saying raise your hands if you really think Jesus walked on water or was born to a virgin. What does it really matter in our day to day lives?
    To claim that Romney is anti science means that he is against something that saved his wife from dying from cancer. Bullshite!

    That was my whole point..who cares if someone is a creationist. Only someone with an ax to grid does.


  341. yenta-fada
    342 | June 13, 2012 7:36 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    The essence of God is not entirely knowable to man

    I disagree.

    I spent all of my life until 2004 as an agnostic.

    evariste (anybody remember him) the apostate Palistinian Muslim explained to me the roots of the word YAHWEH

    I AM BEING.

    Something happened. Really. I was on my knees barely able to breathe. My body was not mine and that’s as best as I can explain.

    G-d came to visit.

    Amazing story. I just plug away towards finding faith over many years.


  342. heysoos
    343 | June 13, 2012 7:36 pm

    face it…we could do a hell of alot better than Mitt Romney, or that stooge BO…when you put your money down on some tard like Bobby Jindal, you cut your own throat…and if a Jindal/Santorum/Perry sort o juggernaught comes down the theocratic road, I’m in full retreat@ JeremyR:
    that’s cool…I like old blues…drink!


  343. coldwarrior
    344 | June 13, 2012 7:36 pm

    RIX wrote:

    m wrote:
    @ RIX:
    WHITE DEBIL IN THE HIZZOUSE!

    Yo Yo , what what! She debil!

    AND a southerner!!!!


  344. RIX
    345 | June 13, 2012 7:37 pm

    @ JeremyR:

    So which is older, the earth or Madonna? She certainly looks a few days past 6,000…..

    Alright, now that’s a keeper!


  345. Speranza
    346 | June 13, 2012 7:39 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Like Zhukov. I get a bit peeved when I hear how the U.S. basically won WW II.

    I don’t think it ever would have happened w/o Russia

    Me too.
    No way we would’ve won without the USSR.


  346. RIX
    347 | June 13, 2012 7:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    m wrote:
    @ RIX:
    WHITE DEBIL IN THE HIZZOUSE!
    Yo Yo , what what! She debil!
    AND a southerner!!!!

    Does Obama know about this?


  347. Lily
    348 | June 13, 2012 7:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    m wrote:
    @ RIX:
    WHITE DEBIL IN THE HIZZOUSE!

    Yo Yo , what what! She debil!

    AND a southerner!!!!

    Go southernern women!!!! ;)


  348. eaglesoars
    349 | June 13, 2012 7:40 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Let yourself open to this.

    I AM BEING.


  349. buzzsawmonkey
    350 | June 13, 2012 7:41 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    face it…we could do a hell of alot better than Mitt Romney, or that stooge BO…when you put your money down on some tard like Bobby Jindal, you cut your own throat…and if a Jindal/Santorum/Perry sort o juggernaught comes down the theocratic road, I’m in full retreat

    I have no idea what the above is supposed to mean.

    We “could do better” than what we’ve got? Yeah, sure—if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Romney’s a decent man, an intelligent man, with experience relevant to the job and, it appears, a desire to actually do the job—none of which can be said for the clown currently in the White House. Jindal, from what I know of him, matches these qualities which Romney has—not point for point, but closely enough.

    Neither of these guys is going to invite you or me to their house of worship, or try and compel you or me to believe as they do. In contrast, Obama is trying to force everyone in the country to worship at the altar of Moloch that he himself bows down to; that is what his contraception mandate amounts to. In short, Obama is flouting the First Amendment, blatantly; Romney and Jindal, having some appreciation for what the First Amendment protects, and by all appearances a certain amount of religious humility (something utterly alien to Obama) are far more likely to respect what the First Amendment means in practice.


  350. eaglesoars
    351 | June 13, 2012 7:43 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Me too.
    No way we would’ve won without the USSR.

    They accepted slaughter on a scale that was acceptable only to the Japanese.

    There was no strategy -- there was just cannon fodder.


  351. 352 | June 13, 2012 7:43 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    No individual who is genuinely educated in the Physical Sciences “Believes” in Science, what they believe is that the methodology of the “Scientific Method” i.e. Science, consistently produces verifiable documentation of results. That those results, as a consequence of the consistency of their reproducible nature have an extremely high degree of confidence in being accurate representations of fact.
    People who “Believe” in Science seldom understand what “Science” actually is and for all practical purposes really believe in magic or voodoo.
    Nicely said. My father would have agreed, even—especially—when he was sweating over why a particular experiment hadn’t worked out as expected.

    I consider myself very fortunate to have had a number of professors in college who were genuine scientists. They did not “Believe” in science, they employed the “Scientific Method” to understand the physical world, to solve complex problems and to explain the how and why things worked the way they do.

    It sounds to me as if your father was just such a man. Dedicated not to his own personal opinions of how thing work or should work, but to discovering how they really did work. Men like your father are in my personal opinion men deserving great respect.


  352. 353 | June 13, 2012 7:43 pm

    ADMINS: Please check your e-mail. Thanks.


  353. Speranza
    354 | June 13, 2012 7:44 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ m:
    Oh you have been doing great. And thanks to all the admins here for allowing us to express our opinions.

    i am glad it has toned down a bit in here…the primary season was getting a bit crazy

    Are you biased against capitalizing?


  354. eaglesoars
    355 | June 13, 2012 7:45 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I have no idea what the above is supposed to mean.

    Sweetie, does ‘pearls before swine’ mean anything to you?


  355. huckfunn
    356 | June 13, 2012 7:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I saw an an unusual Steelers fan in Austin today. White female driving a fairly new black Honda CRV that was festooned with Steelers stickers. There was a dinner-plate size sticker of the helmet logo on the driver’s door, a Steelers sticker on the rear window, another dinner-plate size helmet sticker on the rear windshield. But that wasn’t all. She had a pink peace sign and an Obama 2012 bumper sticker. I’m thinking she was might be bi-polar.


  356. Speranza
    357 | June 13, 2012 7:48 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    evariste (anybody remember him) the apostate Palistinian Muslim explained to me the roots of the word YAHWEH

    Evarsite from Discarded Lies is a Palestinian? No wonder he is such an asshole. Someone also told me once he was gay (not that I care) -- so being a gay Palestinian, if he is (who would be killed by Hamas) might explain his weird postings.


  357. Lily
    358 | June 13, 2012 7:48 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I think you have to remember you saw this in Austin. Austin tends to be bi-polar. ;)


  358. coldwarrior
    359 | June 13, 2012 7:48 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    @ m:
    Oh you have been doing great. And thanks to all the admins here for allowing us to express our opinions.
    i am glad it has toned down a bit in here…the primary season was getting a bit crazy

    Are you biased against capitalizing?

    i am. i believe that no form of letter should be superior to another.

    actually, i used to have to use telex machines at us mission berlin for secure communications back to DC or to other embassies and there was no need to capitalize, just an old habit.


  359. buzzsawmonkey
    360 | June 13, 2012 7:48 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    It sounds to me as if your father was just such a man. Dedicated not to his own personal opinions of how thing work or should work, but to discovering how they really did work. Men like your father are in my personal opinion men deserving great respect.

    My father studied under Fermi, and was one of the guys who helped build the first atomic pile under Stagg Field. His work on the Super was under direct orders from Edward Teller. He knew Szilard, Rabi and Feynman, and a bunch of similar people. He was a remarkable man, and very fortunate.


  360. Speranza
    361 | June 13, 2012 7:49 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I was just joking.


  361. coldwarrior
    362 | June 13, 2012 7:49 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    clearly bi-polar


  362. Speranza
    363 | June 13, 2012 7:49 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    I think you have to remember you saw this in Austin. Austin tends to be bi-polar.

    The Peoples Republic of Austin.


  363. eaglesoars
    364 | June 13, 2012 7:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    My father studied under Fermi, and was one of the guys who helped build the first atomic pile under Stagg Field. His work on the Super was under direct orders from Edward Teller. He knew Szilard, Rabi and Feynman, and a bunch of similar people. He was a remarkable man, and very fortunate.

    Holy crap! I want to hear all about Edward Teller.

    Guts. Spill them.


  364. buzzsawmonkey
    365 | June 13, 2012 7:50 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Sweetie, does ‘pearls before swine’ mean anything to you?

    Yes indeedy; it is what Dorothy Parker is alleged to have retorted when some sweet young thing held the door for her while saying, “Age before beauty.”


  365. 366 | June 13, 2012 7:51 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    It sounds to me as if your father was just such a man. Dedicated not to his own personal opinions of how thing work or should work, but to discovering how they really did work. Men like your father are in my personal opinion men deserving great respect.
    My father studied under Fermi, and was one of the guys who helped build the first atomic pile under Stagg Field. His work on the Super was under direct orders from Edward Teller. He knew Szilard, Rabi and Feynman, and a bunch of similar people. He was a remarkable man, and very fortunate.

    OH MY GOD… I would sooooo have loved to meet your dad… You are one lucky bastage to have had him for a father…


  366. coldwarrior
    367 | June 13, 2012 7:52 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    clearly bi-polar

    this is the only place a really type, i have been using voice recognition software for writing since the late 90′s.

    i just dont feel like using that software here, maybe i should try it tho….


  367. eaglesoars
    368 | June 13, 2012 7:53 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Yes indeedy; it is what Dorothy Parker is alleged to have retorted when some sweet young thing held the door for her while saying, “Age before beauty.”

    Have you noticed the attempted rehabiltation of that crone, Lillian Hellman?

    GAH

    One has to be of a certain age to appreciate Parker. It was a different time.


  368. 369 | June 13, 2012 7:53 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Holy crap! I want to hear all about Edward Teller.

    Guts. Spill them.

    Forget about Teller… I want to know who ended up with Fermi’s infamous bottle of wine… :mrgreen: Buzz’s dad most certainly knew…


  369. buzzsawmonkey
    370 | June 13, 2012 7:53 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Holy crap! I want to hear all about Edward Teller.

    Guts. Spill them.

    I’ve got nothing to tell, really; Dad didn’t talk a lot about work and the people he worked with. It was a security-clearance habit, going back to the war years, and the knowledge that the FBI would go through your trash if you held a security clearance.


  370. m
    371 | June 13, 2012 7:54 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Oh dear lord, you’ve released the liberal hounds upon me.


  371. 372 | June 13, 2012 7:55 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Holy crap! I want to hear all about Edward Teller.
    Guts. Spill them.
    I’ve got nothing to tell, really; Dad didn’t talk a lot about work and the people he worked with. It was a security-clearance habit, going back to the war years, and the knowledge that the FBI would go through your trash if you held a security clearance.

    You do at least know about Fermi’s infamous bottle of wine, right?


  372. 373 | June 13, 2012 7:56 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I know more about Jindal than you do … he is the governor of my state. Because he is a Creationist and a Catholic he is a nut? Do I follow you there?
    I’m not going to go down this road with you. You are only trying to stir things up.

    Jindal is basically doing what Gov Walker in Wisconsin is doing; trying to keep a tight ship. He’s getting a lot of flak here though from the left. They call him all kinds of names.
    One of the big problems in Louisiana is the state budget has restrictions on discretionary spending. The only departments that can get the cuts are in Health and Education (thanks to the 1974 State Constitutional Convention!). So he has little leeway in the budget but people here will blame HIM for cuts in Health and Education.
    Back in 1974 it was a huge majority DEMOCRAT progressive constitutional convention that came up with the present State Constitution.


  373. coldwarrior
    374 | June 13, 2012 7:56 pm

    m wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Oh dear lord, you’ve released the liberal hounds upon me.

    now yer in big trouble!


  374. eaglesoars
    375 | June 13, 2012 7:56 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    the FBI would go through your trash if you held a security clearance.

    Well, now I know who the Calypso Louie Muslims next door work for.


  375. RIX
    376 | June 13, 2012 7:57 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Kudos to your father. I can not match your story, but
    I played football for a great man who was in Naval Intelligence
    at the University of Chicago , during the Manhattan Project.
    One night He & his partner saw I guy wandering off of the
    Campus at dusk.
    They turned their car around & went to pick him up.
    It was Albert Einstein. What do you talk about with him
    in your car?


  376. 377 | June 13, 2012 8:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    It was Albert Einstein. What do you talk about with him
    in your car?

    Albert Einstein lived four blocks from the University, three times a week he would get lost waking home. He would be so deep in thought that he would walk right past his house and get all the way downtown before he noticed that he had forgotten to stop at his own house.


  377. yenta-fada
    378 | June 13, 2012 8:00 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    It sounds to me as if your father was just such a man. Dedicated not to his own personal opinions of how thing work or should work, but to discovering how they really did work. Men like your father are in my personal opinion men deserving great respect.

    My father studied under Fermi, and was one of the guys who helped build the first atomic pile under Stagg Field. His work on the Super was under direct orders from Edward Teller. He knew Szilard, Rabi and Feynman, and a bunch of similar people. He was a remarkable man, and very fortunate.

    Yikes. Royalty.


  378. huckfunn
    379 | June 13, 2012 8:00 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Speranza:
    I’m guessing she was wearing a “Keep Austin Weird” T-shirt. Just doing her part.


  379. yenta-fada
    380 | June 13, 2012 8:01 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Kudos to your father. I can not match your story, but
    I played football for a great man who was in Naval Intelligence
    at the University of Chicago , during the Manhattan Project.
    One night He & his partner saw I guy wandering off of the
    Campus at dusk.
    They turned their car around & went to pick him up.
    It was Albert Einstein. What do you talk about with him
    in your car?

    Wimmin? :-)


  380. Speranza
    381 | June 13, 2012 8:03 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Have you noticed the attempted rehabiltation of that crone, Lillian Hellman?

    The Stalinist from Louisiana? Mary McCarthy one said about her:

    “Every word she writes is a lie, including and and the.”


  381. m
    382 | June 13, 2012 8:03 pm

    New thread!


  382. yenta-fada
    383 | June 13, 2012 8:04 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Let yourself open to this.

    I AM BEING.

    Trying is not the same as experiencing. :-(


  383. Speranza
    384 | June 13, 2012 8:05 pm

    m wrote:

    New thread!

    No, no, keep this thread going. I want to set my personal record of 400 comments on a thread I posted.


  384. Speranza
    385 | June 13, 2012 8:06 pm

    Anyone who claims a Republican is a nut or is weird two words for them “Joe Biden”.


  385. RIX
    386 | June 13, 2012 8:06 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Albert Einstein lived four blocks from the University, three times a week he would get lost waking home. He would be so deep in thought that he would walk right past his house and get all the way downtown before he noticed that he had forgotten to stop at his own house.

    The ultimate absent minded professor.


  386. Speranza
    387 | June 13, 2012 8:06 pm

    @ Speranza:
    or “Debnnis Kucinich”.


  387. yenta-fada
    388 | June 13, 2012 8:06 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    the FBI would go through your trash if you held a security clearance.

    Well, now I know who the Calypso Louie Muslims next door work for.

    *eyeroll* No cure.


  388. 389 | June 13, 2012 8:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Albert Einstein lived four blocks from the University, three times a week he would get lost waking home. He would be so deep in thought that he would walk right past his house and get all the way downtown before he noticed that he had forgotten to stop at his own house.
    The ultimate absent minded professor.

    Yup…


  389. RIX
    390 | June 13, 2012 8:07 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.


  390. Speranza
    391 | June 13, 2012 8:08 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.

    They must have loved him for his brains and not his looks.


  391. PrincessNatasha
    392 | June 13, 2012 8:08 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    the FBI would go through your trash if you held a security clearance.

    Feebs go through my trash because one of them is jealous I shagged a CIA guy for a while :P


  392. m
    393 | June 13, 2012 8:10 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I think it will do that naturally! lol!


  393. Speranza
    395 | June 13, 2012 8:10 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    WTF?
    Outrage as teacher forced his 10th grade class to watch horrific video of ‘Canadian cannibal murdering, eating and dismembering his lover’

    Whatever happened to Walt Disney films?


  394. m
    396 | June 13, 2012 8:10 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Brains is teh HOT.


  395. Speranza
    397 | June 13, 2012 8:11 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I think it will do that naturally! lol!

    Hey I can always have a conversation with myself.


  396. eaglesoars
    398 | June 13, 2012 8:11 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Trying is not the same as experiencing.

    Allow. Don’t try.


  397. m
    399 | June 13, 2012 8:11 pm

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    I gotta say, that’s one brave asshole! LOL!


  398. Speranza
    400 | June 13, 2012 8:12 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Brains is teh HOT.

    Hmmm maybe I tried the wrong approach.


  399. eaglesoars
    401 | June 13, 2012 8:12 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    WTF?
    Outrage as teacher forced his 10th grade class to watch horrific video of ‘Canadian cannibal murdering, eating and dismembering his lover’
    Whatever happened to Walt Disney films?

    Moochelle.

    Ok, that’s not fair.

    But. I don’t really care.


  400. Speranza
    402 | June 13, 2012 8:13 pm

    Romney ought to make Holder a major campaign issue.


  401. eaglesoars
    403 | June 13, 2012 8:13 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.

    Nope. He was a mysogonist prick.


  402. yenta-fada
    404 | June 13, 2012 8:13 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.

    They must have loved him for his brains and not his looks.

    I have always been attracted to men with BRAINZZZZ.


  403. yenta-fada
    405 | June 13, 2012 8:14 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.

    Even Hawking found women who would take care of him. Think about THAT one. urk.


  404. Speranza
    406 | June 13, 2012 8:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I would rather be good looking although I admit to being shallow.


  405. m
    407 | June 13, 2012 8:14 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    That’s terrible. Nothing in the world could make me watch that.


  406. RIX
    408 | June 13, 2012 8:15 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.
    They must have loved him for his brains and not his looks.

    For whatever reason , he had it goin on.


  407. yenta-fada
    409 | June 13, 2012 8:15 pm

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    the FBI would go through your trash if you held a security clearance.

    Feebs go through my trash because one of them is jealous I shagged a CIA guy for a while

    Stop bragging. lol lol


  408. RIX
    410 | June 13, 2012 8:16 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Um, Hawking huh?


  409. buzzsawmonkey
    411 | June 13, 2012 8:17 pm

    RIX wrote:

    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.

    When you truly understand the space-time continuum, “slow and easy” takes on a whole new dimension.


  410. RIX
    412 | June 13, 2012 8:19 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    From what I have read Einstein was a studly ladies man.
    When you truly understand the space-time continuum, “slow and easy” takes on a whole new dimension.

    Has to be true.


  411. yenta-fada
    413 | June 13, 2012 8:19 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    I would rather be good looking although I admit to being shallow.

    It’s not shallow. There are attributes to facial beauty such as symmetry that are considered ‘beautiful’ all across the planet. Even babies will respond to “beauty”. It’s how we are wired. There’s an international community of the beautiful people for a reason that has nothing to do with gossip. We naturally respond to beauty in many things.


  412. darkwords
    414 | June 13, 2012 8:20 pm

    @ 215 doriangrey: I’m a creationist that believes in evolution.


  413. yenta-fada
    415 | June 13, 2012 8:20 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Um, Hawking huh?

    No woman who is even close to normal would take on that job.


  414. Speranza
    416 | June 13, 2012 8:21 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    It’s not shallow. There are attributes to facial beauty such as symmetry that are considered ‘beautiful’ all across the planet. Even babies will respond to “beauty”. It’s how we are wired. There’s an international community of the beautiful people for a reason that has nothing to do with gossip. We naturally respond to beauty in many things.

    Good looks is never a handicap. I never heard any man or woman complain about being too handsome/pretty.


  415. 417 | June 13, 2012 8:22 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 215 doriangrey: I’m a creationist that believes in evolution.

    Same here.


  416. darkwords
    418 | June 13, 2012 8:22 pm

    @ 232 The Osprey: that will pull back all the paul bots that left him. They were at least 60 percent of my GoP precinct caucus. Mitt will want to head that off.


  417. Speranza
    419 | June 13, 2012 8:23 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    darkwords wrote:
    @ 215 doriangrey: I’m a creationist that believes in evolution.

    Same here.

    I make it a hat trick.


  418. darkwords
    420 | June 13, 2012 8:23 pm

    @ 235 yenta-fada: nah heysoos just writes a lot of sarcasm as an art. It rubs some people the wrong way if they aren’t looking for it.

    /s tag is not there.


  419. yenta-fada
    421 | June 13, 2012 8:23 pm

    m wrote:

    New thread!

    Did you ever notice that ‘new thread’ sometimes stops conversation completely? Personally I think it’s because everyone suddenly remembers that there’s a real life out there that has to be taken care of.


  420. darkwords
    422 | June 13, 2012 8:26 pm

    @ 241 heysoos: A lot of well meaning people accept the 6000 years as fact because their faith requires it. Baptists? It’s not really an issue until someone pushes it into the public sector. A creationist can rule as well as a non creationist if they have some integrity and respect for the country.


  421. buzzsawmonkey
    423 | June 13, 2012 8:26 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Good looks is never a handicap. I never heard any man or woman complain about being too handsome/pretty.

    Lefties are often upset about people being “lookist,” i.e., responding to attractiveness instead of choosing to go with trolls.


  422. yenta-fada
    424 | June 13, 2012 8:26 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 235 yenta-fada: nah heysoos just writes a lot of sarcasm as an art. It rubs some people the wrong way if they aren’t looking for it.

    /s tag is not there.

    You are entitled to your opinion. I just think there’s no ‘there’ there. Unless you count insults as a good thing for a blog.


  423. eaglesoars
    425 | June 13, 2012 8:30 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    It’s how we are wired

    Yes, but if it’s YOU that is beautiful -- problems. My mother was, my sister is and a few girlfriends in high school were.

    It’s a curse.

    To this day -- and she’s 58 yrs old -- my sister is not sure that any man ever loved her for herself.

    And Mom, the Mardi Gras queen was pretty sure that was the foundation of her value.

    keep it. Not in a million years.


  424. darkwords
    426 | June 13, 2012 8:31 pm

    @ 294 doriangrey: heysoos is fine. He is a TFK knock off and brings a point of view to the blog. Maybe a little rough still. woe to the oot drinking threads.


  425. darkwords
    427 | June 13, 2012 8:31 pm

    I was 6-7 years on LGF, glad to get out of the place. The mind control was getting to me. lol


  426. yenta-fada
    428 | June 13, 2012 8:33 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 294 doriangrey: heysoos is fine. He is a TFK knock off and brings a point of view to the blog. Maybe a little rough still. woe to the oot drinking threads.

    Nothing in common with TFK. Heysoos spills his life story on every thread. Not impressed.


  427. darkwords
    429 | June 13, 2012 8:35 pm

    @ 306 buzzsawmonkey: Very good point. In my own non organized way I consider myself a person of faith, but I do find myself questioning my path and what ultimately lies behind it. My doubts seem to be of a human nature and not necessarily a divine nature.

    And my test for the existence of God is to test creativity. Do it when you believe in God and do it when you don’t. See if there is a difference. you can only test it for yourself. Your individual test has no meaning to anyone else. And I think God doesn’t like to be tested and will apply a karmic lesson, so only test yourself, not God.


  428. darkwords
    430 | June 13, 2012 8:39 pm

    @ 339 heysoos: If Jindal means more middle class jobs, then he is on the right line.


  429. darkwords
    431 | June 13, 2012 8:45 pm

    @ 392 PrincessNatasha: There was a movie out about that this year wasn’t there? I think Reese Witherspoon played you.


  430. darkwords
    432 | June 13, 2012 8:48 pm

    @ 403 eaglesoars: I think back 2000 years ago when times were really tough and wonder how marriages between people went. In some of the old preserved writings you can see there were thoughtful humane men and women who worked hard and enjoyed lives together. The unfortunates were born in areas of constant war and death.


  431. darkwords
    433 | June 13, 2012 8:52 pm

    @ 424 yenta-fada: that is his way of entering the room. He commented at LGF a long time so i think i have seen his stuff about 10 years now? old timer like most the people here. just no longer bound by chuck. I feel dumb a lot of the times watching what people post but i always learn something new to keep me ahead of the new kids.


  432. darkwords
    434 | June 13, 2012 8:52 pm

    new thread!!!!


  433. 435 | June 13, 2012 9:00 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Good looks is never a handicap. I never heard any man or woman complain about being too handsome/pretty.

    Lefties are often upset about people being “lookist,” i.e., responding to attractiveness instead of choosing to go with trolls.

    OK, so when Fermi built the Atomic Pile, he knew that their was a significant possibility that he would get a uncontrolled run away chain reaction. That the result of that runaway reaction would be a lethal does of radiation to whomever was within several hundred yards of the pile, basically himself ad the guys building it with him.

    So, Fermi had a bottle of wine that was kept on a shelf above the door to his office in the room where the pile was built. It was the “Oh Shit were screwed, better get drunk” wine for just in case they killed themselves through radiation exposure. That bottle remained up on that shelf until sometime in the mid 60′s when it mysteriously disappeared.

    That bottle on wine is one of Physic’s what could be called “Holy relic’s”. Your dad would most certainly have known about it, and maybe even known what happened to it.


  434. 436 | June 13, 2012 9:05 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 294 doriangrey: heysoos is fine. He is a TFK knock off and brings a point of view to the blog. Maybe a little rough still. woe to the oot drinking threads.

    ROTFLMAO… TFK knockoff, not. But I don’t think he’s a troll or anything like that. Perhaps a bit of an agent provocateur, but not necessarily a bad guy.


  435. buzzsawmonkey
    437 | June 13, 2012 9:07 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Your dad would most certainly have known about it, and maybe even known what happened to it.

    Well, by the early-mid Sixties they tore down Stagg Field where the pile had been built, to put up the new library. There’s a Henry Moore sculpture on the site where the pile actually was, and some time ago—probably the 50th anniversary of the first chain reaction—they passed out copies of a commemorative lithograph to the survivors. The ink contained ground graphite from the old original pile; both my father and my uncle got one.


  436. Speranza
    438 | June 13, 2012 9:12 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lefties are often upset about people being “lookist,” i.e., responding to attractiveness instead of choosing to go with trolls.

    Usually lefties who look like Helen Thomas.


  437. Speranza
    439 | June 13, 2012 9:13 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    If Jindal means more middle class jobs, then he is on the right line.

    Jobs, jobs, jobs. How one thinks the Earth came into being, I could not care less.


  438. 440 | June 13, 2012 9:13 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Your dad would most certainly have known about it, and maybe even known what happened to it.
    Well, by the early-mid Sixties they tore down Stagg Field where the pile had been built, to put up the new library. There’s a Henry Moore sculpture on the site where the pile actually was, and some time ago—probably the 50th anniversary of the first chain reaction—they passed out copies of a commemorative lithograph to the survivors. The ink contained ground graphite from the old original pile; both my father and my uncle got one.

    When they tore the place down is most likely when the bottle went missing.


  439. buzzsawmonkey
    441 | June 13, 2012 9:21 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    When they tore the place down is most likely when the bottle went missing.

    Probably. I hated to see the old Stagg Field go; as a kid, I’d loved its medieval castle-like wall.

    Funny story; back before Robert Hutchins took over the University of Chicago, and banned football, the Chicago team had been a powerhouse under Amos Alonzo Stagg. It was because of that the UC team were called “the Monsters of the Midway,” the Midway being a grassy sward to the south of the University. It was supposed to be a Venetian canal during the Columbian Exposition of 1893, but they realized that if they let the lake into it they would flood the entire South Side. So the Midway became a huge green parkway—and the honky-tonk strip of the Exposition. It’s from the Midway that carnival thoroughfares are called “midways”—and, when Hutchins banned football from the University, the Chicago Bears took over the nickname “Monsters of the Midway,” even though they have nothing to do with the Midway or the University, because it was too good a name to lose.

    Of course, Chicago’s airport back then was Midway (named after the battle), so they probably figured to get away with it on that score.


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