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Undervote in Pennsylvania Spells Serious Trouble for Obama

by huckfunn ( 198 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Elections 2012, Energy, Health Care, Misery Index, Politics, Polls, Regulation, Socialism, taxation, unemployment at June 19th, 2012 - 3:00 pm

The most current (June 10) RCP composite presidential poll for Pennsylvania shows Obama leading Romney by 8. However, when one goes inside the numbers of the April democrat primary, there is a high percentage of “undervote” for Obama. Undervote can be defined as “ the number of blank ballot selections as a proportion of total voters; in this case, the Democrats who voted in the primary but did not make a selection for President”.  The above map shows the percentage of the Nobama undervote in PA counties. The undervote phenomenon is even more telling when it occurs in an uncontested election as in the April democrat presidential primary. Large Nobama undervotes have also been noted in Arkansas, Kentucky and West Virginia. The latter actually saw a felon, currently jailed in Texas, take 43% of the democrat primary vote for president. Our fellow blogmocat, Doriangrey, commented on the Nobama undervote in the San Francisco democrat primary several days ago.

Breitbart’s Mike Flynn offers the following analysis:

The Pennsylvania primary was in April, but detailed primary information is only now available. This is significant, though, because the primary was before the recent dismal jobs report, Obama’s campaign missteps or the aggressive tactics of the Romney campaign. Keep in mind, also, that these numbers are based solely on Democrat primary voters. There are no Republican or Independent voters in this. This is Obama’s base. That said, look at the map above, in only about three counties is he winning the support of more than 90% of Democrat voters in an uncontested primary. In over 27 counties, he is winning less than 70%. In a few counties, he is winning 55%.

Our old rule of thumb was that any undervote more than 20% was a reason to go to DefCon 1. It signaled a serious problem with the base and would necessitate our adapting campaign strategy and tactics to shore up our support. I have never seen a situation where a candidate had an undervote of 30-40% and went on to win the general election. In fact, in such situations, we would often pull out of the race entirely.

I realize recent polls in Pennsylvania show the race to be tight, with a decided edge to Obama. But, I also realize that if he is losing 30-40% of the vote in a Democrat primary he is in serious trouble. That this result happened before the recent downturn in the economy is even more telling. Obama is in trouble in PA. And, if he is in trouble there, he is well on his way to being a one-term President.

Read the entire article here.

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198 Responses to “Undervote in Pennsylvania Spells Serious Trouble for Obama”
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  1. 1 | June 19, 2012 3:05 pm

    I have my fingers crossed! (and my toes and my eyes!)


  2. huckfunn
    2 | June 19, 2012 3:10 pm

    @ Kafir:
    PA is one of the “must haves” for Obama. BTW, your eye doesn’t look crossed.


  3. Da_Beerfreak
    3 | June 19, 2012 3:13 pm

    If one can not vote for ‘None of the Above’ then not voting is the next best option. :twisted:


  4. Lily
    4 | June 19, 2012 3:14 pm

    Just like in Louisiana sure obama won the primary…but only 11% turnout of democrats showed up to even vote.


  5. huckfunn
    5 | June 19, 2012 3:19 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    If one can not vote for ‘None of the Above’ then not voting is the next best option.

    I think the Nobama “not voting” block is getting larger everyday. It could even be unprecedented.


  6. 6 | June 19, 2012 3:21 pm

    This could still lead to you-know-who challenging Обама on the Convention Floor….


  7. 7 | June 19, 2012 3:23 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Notta recent pic ~:)


  8. 8 | June 19, 2012 3:23 pm

    Macker wrote:

    This could still lead to you-know-who challenging Обама on the Convention Floor….

    Every day, she looks more like an overweight Tom Petty Look-alike.


  9. Bumr50
    9 | June 19, 2012 3:28 pm

    The whole amnesty thing is really hurting him locally (Pgh).


  10. Lily
    10 | June 19, 2012 3:30 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    The whole amnesty thing is really hurting him locally (Pgh).

    I believe what he is doing is unconstituional…..he just loves going around the constitution and Congress.


  11. 11 | June 19, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Indeed.


  12. Lily
    12 | June 19, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ Macker:

    Actually in that pic she looks like an ageing mime!
    /or a clown..they are both the same mime/clown. ;)


  13. 13 | June 19, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ Lily:

    Just plain Fugly! 8)


  14. 14 | June 19, 2012 3:36 pm

    My own opinion is that, after Obama, “The First [insert interest group] President” will have lost it’s allure for a while….even among Democrats.


  15. Bumr50
    15 | June 19, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Lily:

    It’s going to cost him in Democrats net, methinks…


  16. 16 | June 19, 2012 3:39 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Indeed.

    She makes me want to give Bill a special exemption on the whole adultery thing. Geez, there are some days she looks like she doesn’t even bathe, much less give a damn about her appearance!


  17. Lily
    17 | June 19, 2012 3:40 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    It’s going to cost him in Democrats net, methinks…

    Oh indeed…the democrats even in Congress are jumping ship.
    /only the true obama worshippers are still with him.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t bring down the whole democrat party…he is that rogue.


  18. Lily
    18 | June 19, 2012 3:44 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Indeed.

    She makes me want to give Bill a special exemption on the whole adultery thing. Geez, there are some days she looks like she doesn’t even bathe, much less give a damn about her appearance!

    I give her a pass….compared to (heaven knows how many plastic surgery’s Pelsoi has)…not to mention how horrible the first lady dresses and with all her angry looks. When it comes to ugly..she has a lot of contenders/!


  19. Lily
    19 | June 19, 2012 3:51 pm

    There is always this….The pic in this link is price-less.

    Obama Chastises First Lady Over Unsightly Panty Lines

    WASHINGTON – In a rare display of harsh criticism, President Obama lambasted First Lady Michelle Obama as she and the presidential children were preparing to board Air Force One. When the President first arrived on the tarmac, minutes after the First Family’s arrival, he was all smiles as he waved to press members and staff that had gathered to see the family embark on their twenty-seven day Caribbean vacation. But Obama’s smile faded when he saw what his wife was wearing. After the initial wave of astonishment washed over him, the President’s face filled with scorn as he let fly a blur of caustic remarks that stunned even the more gruff military and secret service personnel standing nearby.

    http://www.thedailyrash.com/obama-chastises-first-lady-over-unsightly-panty-lines


  20. Lily
    20 | June 19, 2012 3:58 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Indeed.

    She makes me want to give Bill a special exemption on the whole adultery thing. Geez, there are some days she looks like she doesn’t even bathe, much less give a damn about her appearance!

    She has given up on make-up and the way she looks….working under bho administration has got to take a toll, not to mention being the wife of Bill Clinton…..not giving her any passes…she just doesn’t have the corner on ugly..think Valerie Jarrett..she looks like the lizard she is.


  21. Lily
    21 | June 19, 2012 4:04 pm

    Good-night in Georgia I killed the thread again.


  22. Lily
    22 | June 19, 2012 4:06 pm

    What a pic……

    Putin: You really are gutless — Obama: Meh

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/19/putin-you-really-are-gutless-obama-meh/


  23. citizen_q
    23 | June 19, 2012 4:07 pm

    This is how I remember and think of shrillery

    http://deskofbrian.com/wp-content/uploads/Clintons-with-Arafat-300x219.jpg


  24. Lily
    24 | June 19, 2012 4:08 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Yep that is a damning photo!


  25. taxfreekiller
    25 | June 19, 2012 4:12 pm

    Trash is what trash does.


  26. Guggi
    26 | June 19, 2012 4:27 pm

    Kafir wrote:

    and my eyes

    Not your eyes !!!!!! :-)


  27. 27 | June 19, 2012 4:32 pm

    U.S., Israel developed Flame computer virus to slow Iranian nuclear efforts, officials say

    Good gawd, WTF is wrong with these people?? The Bush White House was about as leak-proof as you can get and these Obama a-holes can’t seem to stop talking!


  28. 28 | June 19, 2012 4:33 pm

    @ Lily:

    Quite a few of those captions are funnier than shit!


  29. Lily
    29 | June 19, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Anything to get elected. Not to mention this is insanity plus egotism of great proprotions.


  30. Guggi
    30 | June 19, 2012 4:35 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    these Obama a-holes can’t seem to stop talking!

    logorrhoe


  31. 31 | June 19, 2012 4:37 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    This is how I remember and think of shrillery

    http://deskofbrian.com/wp-content/uploads/Clintons-with-Arafat-300×219.jpg

    The prostration of the world before that execrable bastard upon his death was about as nauseating an episode as I can remember. There should have been no US delegation, whatsoever. Bush should have made a statement, protocol be damned.


  32. taxfreekiller
    32 | June 19, 2012 4:38 pm

    “Democrat Underground”

    remember….?@ MacDuff:


  33. taxfreekiller
    33 | June 19, 2012 4:40 pm

    “Democrat Party” world class war looser.


  34. 34 | June 19, 2012 4:40 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ Guggi:

    Israel is likely furious. There’s probably Hebrew profanities being used that are not even translatable!


  35. taxfreekiller
    35 | June 19, 2012 4:41 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:
    “Democrat Party” world class looser of “won” wars.
    correction…


  36. taxfreekiller
    36 | June 19, 2012 4:42 pm

    ps

    The ugly looks from Putin and Obama this week were poor acting…!

    Love at firs sight…. would be the deal.


  37. 37 | June 19, 2012 4:42 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    “Democrat Underground”

    remember….?@ MacDuff:

    I remember. They’re not just political opponents, they’re actively on the other side, and yes, I’m questioning their patriotism!


  38. heysoos
    38 | June 19, 2012 4:43 pm

    Arafat was a murderer, plain and simple…that Carter was blowing him to a Nobel is unthinkable…Nobel tanked at that point…done, no cred


  39. yenta-fada
    39 | June 19, 2012 4:43 pm

    From Debka. Sounds like a clear analysis.

    US president Barack Obama’s goal from the outset of the Tahrir Square revolution early last year was to get the Muslim Brotherhood installed in government through the ballot box. He sees this as the grand vindication of the vision he unveiled at Cairo University on June 4, 2009 in a speech reaching out to world Muslims.
    Obama accepts Muslim parties who are not al Qaeda or jihadists as forces of moderation who must be allowed to attain power through their embrace of democracy, and with whom the US, the West and Israel must learn to coexist.
    This perception, which entails getting even pro-Western autocratic rulers displaced, guided his hand in supporting the ouster of Hosni Mubarak in February 2011 and Muammar Qaddafi’s overthrow in Libya seven months later to make way for “moderate” Muslim rule.
    It is also being applied in Syria. Aided by the Muslim ruler closest to him, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, Obama is working hard to unify the squabbling factions of Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood, the backbone of the Sunni rebellion against the Assad regime and his Alawite sect, and bring the MB to power through the democratic process. It is too soon to predict his chances of success.
    In Cairo, Egypt’s generals are engaged in an acrobatic exercise to keep their balance while watching the Brotherhood take power with the blessing of the White House in Washington.
    Israel, it must be said, finds itself in a strategic pits deeper than ever before as it faces the Islamist revolution overtaking Egypt. While promising Israel every possible security perk, Obama has relentlessly pursued a policy of accommodation with revolutionary Islam, both Shiite – through a nuclear deal with Iran after it progressed beyond the point of no return for building a bomb – and the Sunnis, by collaborating with the Muslim Brotherhood and its branches.
    This policy has stripped Israel of its strategic assets barring one – military prowess.
    In their three years at the helm of Israel’s government, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak have lined up with Obama policy – often involuntarily. However, every Obama success in promoting Muslim power drops Israel further down the strategic scale in the face of its empowered foes.
    Israel’s only recourse for recovering shrinking strategic ground in the Middle East and deterrent strength against the rising Islamist forces in Egypt is to take matters in its own hands and dismantle Iran’s nuclear program by force.
    If Netanyahu waits much longer, Israel will find Shiite and Sunni revolutionary rulers uniting against their perceived common enemy, Israel, before they fight each other over slicies of the Middle East. A military coup in Cairo could set this process back, but the chances of its happening are slight.


  40. 40 | June 19, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I, for one, would very much like to see said Hebrew invectives transliterated into English!


  41. yenta-fada
    41 | June 19, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Sorry for the length, but you won’t find it in the NYT. :-(


  42. Lily
    42 | June 19, 2012 4:44 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ Guggi:

    Israel is likely furious. There’s probably Hebrew profanities being used that are not even translatable!

    I’m sure they are…but I don’t think they are that surprised. They knew his number a while back. They don’t trust him and for good reason.
    /heck the American people don’t trust him..well msm does but that doesn’t count.


  43. 43 | June 19, 2012 4:45 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Arafat was a murderer, plain and simple…that Carter was blowing him to a Nobel is unthinkable…Nobel tanked at that point…done, no cred

    I’ll bet Vladimir Vladmirovitch has some “stories” to tell about Arafat!


  44. yenta-fada
    44 | June 19, 2012 4:46 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    ps

    The ugly looks from Putin and Obama this week were poor acting…!

    Love at firs sight…. would be the deal.

    I liked the one with Ozero’s limp wrist being grasped in Putin’s smaller iron hand. Putin must hate cowards.


  45. 45 | June 19, 2012 4:48 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    I, for one, would very much like to see said Hebrew invectives transliterated into English!

    Me too. I’m kinda tired of using the same old profanities; had Steve Jobs lived, I’m sure he would have addressed this dearth of shiny new cursewords.


  46. 46 | June 19, 2012 4:50 pm

    @ Lily:

    BOOM! BOOM-BOOM-BOOM BOOM!


  47. 47 | June 19, 2012 4:51 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I liked the one with Ozero’s limp wrist being grasped in Putin’s smaller iron hand. Putin must hate cowards.

    I’ll bet he hates teh gheys even worse!


  48. heysoos
    48 | June 19, 2012 4:53 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Lily:
    BOOM! BOOM-BOOM-BOOM BOOM!

    John Lee Hooker?


  49. Guggi
    49 | June 19, 2012 4:58 pm

    Literally no one respects O. Not Putin, not the Chinese government or the Indian government or even scum like Maliki or Karzai.

    Say ab out George W. what you want but he was more respected than this failure of a president.


  50. waldensianspirit
    50 | June 19, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ Lily:
    He looks like he is wondering if plumber’s crack putty could effectively fill in those divots.


  51. yenta-fada
    51 | June 19, 2012 5:07 pm

    @ Guggi:

    So, what do you think about Germany’s fiscal policy? The Germans seem like the most logical bankers in Europe.


  52. Lily
    52 | June 19, 2012 5:07 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Lily:

    BOOM! BOOM-BOOM-BOOM BOOM!


  53. yenta-fada
    53 | June 19, 2012 5:08 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Literally no one respects O. Not Putin, not the Chinese government or the Indian government or even scum like Maliki or Karzai.

    Say ab out George W. what you want but he was more respected than this failure of a president.

    It’s not popular here, but I think GWB did a great deal of harm calling Islam ‘a religion of peace’.


  54. 54 | June 19, 2012 5:08 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Literally no one respects O. Not Putin, not the Chinese government or the Indian government or even scum like Maliki or Karzai.

    Say ab out George W. what you want but he was more respected than this failure of a president.

    A weak president invites agression and risks US overreaction in an effort to appear “strong”. Weakness is far more dangerous than belligerence -- a fact that liberals will never grasp.


  55. 55 | June 19, 2012 5:09 pm

    This is not what a shoo in incumbent looks during an election year. Not even the hardest core Democrat apparatchiks are happy with his job performance to date.


  56. heysoos
    56 | June 19, 2012 5:09 pm

    I’ve lived on welfare my entire life as have my children…I’ve never worked or paid taxes…I am dumber than a box of rocks and my 20yr old son has already done time for armed robbery…my 17 yr old daughter has two kids….I always vote democrat, and always will…BO will save us


  57. 57 | June 19, 2012 5:11 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ Guggi:
    Israel is likely furious. There’s probably Hebrew profanities being used that are not even translatable!

    Hebrew is a unique language in that it lacks any profanities. That’s what Yiddish was invented for. When someone want’s to curse you out in Hebrew, it literally becomes a thing of beauty, even if you are on the receiving end. It does so because the insults are complex intricate diatribes referencing genealogical, sociological and intellectual innuendos and assertions describing the individual being insulted.

    Rumor has it, that they are the historical hermeneutical origins for the epic internet flames. (Don’t forget to check number 5 on that list) :wink:


  58. 58 | June 19, 2012 5:12 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    It’s not popular here, but I think GWB did a great deal of harm calling Islam ‘a religion of peace’.

    I defend W on a number of fronts, but I agree with that. It was a terribly harmful remark and, alas, it was repeated over and over. It took the onus from Islam at the worst possible time.


  59. yenta-fada
    59 | June 19, 2012 5:15 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    The things you know! :-)


  60. Lily
    60 | June 19, 2012 5:15 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    @ Lily:
    BOOM! BOOM-BOOM-BOOM BOOM!

    John Lee Hooker?

    re: my #52 post


  61. 61 | June 19, 2012 5:18 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Hebrew is a unique language in that it lacks any profanities. That’s what Yiddish was invented for. When someone want’s to curse you out in Hebrew, it literally becomes a thing of beauty, even if you are on the receiving end. It does so because the insults are complex intricate diatribes referencing genealogical, sociological and intellectual innuendos and assertions describing the individual being insulted.

    As I understand that it is reputed to have been invented by God Himself, that makes sense.


  62. 62 | June 19, 2012 5:19 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    The things you know!

    ROTFLMAO… I was engaged to a Jewish woman for nearly 10 years. Believe me I have been on the receiving end of some serious hum-dingers. (Yes I had to have them translated, but after I got over it, they were things I was able to appreciate for their inventive complexity)


  63. Lily
    63 | June 19, 2012 5:23 pm

    Really? Apparently the brain-washing isn’t getting through to the students..so they need to burn in hell. Disgusting.

    NYC Students Hold Rally To Sing “God Bless The USA” After Principal Bans It At Graduation Ceremony, Libs Promptly Heckle Them, Tell Kids To “Burn In Hell”…

    The protest had been organized by parents at PS 90 in Coney Island. They were outraged after principal Greta Hawkins banned kindergartners from performing the song at their graduation ceremony. Staffers said the principal was worried the patriotic anthem might offend other cultures.

    She also feared that the Lee Greenwood song would not be age-appropriate for the youngsters – concerns shared by the New York City Dept. of Education.

    Among those attending the protest was Rep. Bob Turner (R-NY) who had been invited by parents. Turner is running for the U.S. Senate against Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY).

    “I thought it would be a great idea,” Turner said. “The kids were a delight.”

    According to video of the incident, boys and girls were waving American flags and singing “God Bless the USA” when adults began swarming and shouting.

    They were shouting down the kids as they were singing,” Turner told Fox News Radio. “This was really bad form.”

    “You Republicans come go to a Republican area and do that, we don’t do that here,” one of the hecklers said. “This is ridiculous, this is sad. This is so crazy. This is sad.”

    A Turner staffer can be heard off camera asking the protesters to stop – and to “let the kids sing.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/19/nyc-students-hold-rally-to-sing-god-bless-the-usa-after-principal-bans-it-at-graduation-ceremony-libs-promptly-heckle-them-tell-kids-to-burn-in-hell/


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | June 19, 2012 5:24 pm

    Dead dog receives voter registration forms. (h/t Michelle’s mirror)

    http://www2.wsls.com/news/2012/jun/18/bedford-county-dead-dog-receives-voter-registratio-ar-1996759/


  65. 65 | June 19, 2012 5:24 pm

    @ Lily:

    That’s what real “hope” looks like!


  66. Lily
    66 | June 19, 2012 5:25 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Now why would a dead dog vote for obama knowing he eats them? ;)


  67. yenta-fada
    67 | June 19, 2012 5:27 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    The things you know!

    ROTFLMAO… I was engaged to a Jewish woman for nearly 10 years. Believe me I have been on the receiving end of some serious hum-dingers. (Yes I had to have them translated, but after I got over it, they were things I was able to appreciate for their inventive complexity)

    *bubbaleh* (pinches both cheeks) The ones on Dorians’ face, just in case you were wondering. lol


  68. yenta-fada
    68 | June 19, 2012 5:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Now why would a dead dog vote for obama knowing he eats them?

    Zombie Dog?


  69. Lily
    69 | June 19, 2012 5:28 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Lily:

    That’s what real “hope” looks like!

    Indeed!!! There is always “hope”! Average Americans are fed up with this crap…that God Bless America may offend certain cultures..those cultures can just get over it or get the hell out of our country.


  70. 70 | June 19, 2012 5:29 pm

    Actively on the other side….

    The Department of Justice (DOJ) refuses to explain why it has abruptly dropped terrorism charges against a member of a Middle Eastern family indicted in south Florida last year with providing material support for the Pakistani Taliban.

    In all, six people were charged with sending tens of thousands of dollars to the terrorist organization, which is associated with Al-Qaeda and has claimed responsibility for numerous attacks against American interests, including a 2009 suicide bombing at a U.S. military base in Afghanistan. The ringleader in this case is a Pakistani imam (Hafiz Muhammed Sher Ali Khan) who ran a mosque in Miami. The others include his sons, daughter and grandson.


  71. Lily
    71 | June 19, 2012 5:29 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Now why would a dead dog vote for obama knowing he eats them?

    Zombie Dog?

    LOL…even a Zombie Dog would have a beef with bho. ;)


  72. 72 | June 19, 2012 5:32 pm

    Lily wrote:

    LOL…even a Zombie Dog would have a beef with bho.

    A “beef”? :D


  73. yenta-fada
  74. Guggi
    74 | June 19, 2012 5:34 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    So, what do you think about Germany’s fiscal policy? The Germans seem like the most logical bankers in Europe.

    Insane, they can’t go on with these bail outs. The EU is now in favor to change the timeline for Greece. This will cost the Germans again dozens of billions.
    Problem is: the EU can’t kick out Greece -- neither from the Euro nor from the EU. What they could do is: if the Greeks don’t fullfill the current treaty they can stop payments. Then Greece goes bankrupt and has to leave the EU (and of course the Euro zone) and ask again for membership in the EU with the drachme as currency.

    But this won’t happen because Merkel signaled that she will agree to prolong the timeline and throw good money after bad money. A bad example for Spain and Italy. She has no plan.

    Btw.: Since two-and-a-half years Greece hasn’t privatized a single nationalized company yet and none will be. Why ? Ask E.ON: they went to Greece to look for power plants and came back disaffected. Non skilled workers there get the same salary as department managers at E.ON in Germany with a university degree. And the unions have so much power that E.ON said: thank you, but no, thank you.


  75. Lily
    75 | June 19, 2012 5:38 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    LOL…even a Zombie Dog would have a beef with bho.

    A “beef”?

    ;) Yep!


  76. 76 | June 19, 2012 5:40 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    The things you know!
    ROTFLMAO… I was engaged to a Jewish woman for nearly 10 years. Believe me I have been on the receiving end of some serious hum-dingers. (Yes I had to have them translated, but after I got over it, they were things I was able to appreciate for their inventive complexity)

    *bubbaleh* (pinches both cheeks) The ones on Dorians’ face, just in case you were wondering. lol

    Let’s just say, that her mother and her grandmother and I didn’t always see thing eye to eye, IYKWIMAIKYD… :oops:


  77. RIX
    77 | June 19, 2012 5:41 pm

    @ Lily:

    Indeed!!! There is always “hope”! Average Americans are fed up with this crap…that God Bless America may offend certain cultures..those cultures can just get over it or get the hell out of our country.

    My daughter was a student at the University of Illinois when
    the Air Force did a fly over the stadium.
    The kids spontaneously chanted “USA, USA’
    A faculty researcher wrote an artcle in the shool
    newspaper calling them all a bunch of little Nazis.
    “That chant is hateful to Muslim students”


  78. yenta-fada
    78 | June 19, 2012 5:41 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Thanks for your educated opinion. The Greeks should never have been part of the EU. Goldman Sachs ‘cooked’ the Greek books so that Greece could qualify for entry into the EU. It is not a productive nation and tax evasion is the national sport. The Greeks who emigrated to Canada tend to be in the restaurant business and work extremely hard to become successful. Then, many of them sell their business and retire to Greece for the easy lifestyle.


  79. Guggi
    79 | June 19, 2012 5:43 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    A weak president invites agression and risks US overreaction in an effort to appear “strong”. Weakness is far more dangerous than belligerence – a fact that liberals will never grasp.

    Totally agree.


  80. yenta-fada
    80 | June 19, 2012 5:43 pm

    @ RIX:

    OMG. I only believe that because it is you telling me that story. Tragic.


  81. Lily
    81 | June 19, 2012 5:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Indeed!!! There is always “hope”! Average Americans are fed up with this crap…that God Bless America may offend certain cultures..those cultures can just get over it or get the hell out of our country.

    My daughter was a student at the University of Illinois when
    the Air Force did a fly over the stadium.
    The kids spontaneously chanted “USA, USA’
    A faculty researcher wrote an artcle in the shool
    newspaper calling them all a bunch of little Nazis.
    “That chant is hateful to Muslim students”

    Disgusting. I’m sure the students loved being called Nazi’s for loving the United States. There is a dis-connect between the younger folk and the older folk in these places of learning. If my sons are any way shape and form of the younger generation …..they are tired of this crap. They are not down with hating our country, they are not down with them dissing their religion, they are not down with abortion, they are not down with being told something bad is good.


  82. RIX
    82 | June 19, 2012 5:49 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ RIX:
    OMG. I only believe that because it is you telling me that story. Tragic.

    It went national, Michael Medved had the guy on.
    He was a seething creep.


  83. yenta-fada
    83 | June 19, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ Lily:

    Someone should tell the University Faculties of the US that it is no longer the sixties. We have all been ‘Sovietized’.


  84. 84 | June 19, 2012 5:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    “That chant is hateful to Muslim students”

    It’s not designed to be hurtful to Muslims…..but it’s rather a pleasant byproduct, no?


  85. RIX
    85 | June 19, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ Lily:

    Disgusting. I’m sure the students loved being called Nazi’s for loving the United States. There is a dis-connect between the younger folk and the older folk in these places of learning. If my sons are any way shape and form of the younger generation …..they are tired of this crap. They are not down with hating our country, they are not down with them dissing their religion, they are not down with abortion, they are not down with being told something bad is good

    .

    I would say that you did a real good job raising those
    boys.


  86. Lily
    86 | June 19, 2012 5:56 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Someone should tell the University Faculties of the US that it is no longer the sixties. We have all been ‘Sovietized’.

    This younger generation saw 9/11 and was horrified. They joined the military …. they love their country. They have friends, family who have served and died. Sure some of them are stuck on stupid and have drunk the kool-aid…but most haven’t.
    Everything about these ‘leftist’s’ are stuck in the 60′s and sorry this isn’t the 60′s no matter how much they wish it were.


  87. yenta-fada
    87 | June 19, 2012 5:56 pm

    Egyptians protest ‘constitutional coup’. THIS IS WHAT the West should be reading in order to make comparisons to faux democracy.

    http://www.albawaba.com/news/egyptians-protest-against-constitutional-coup-430401


  88. huckfunn
    88 | June 19, 2012 5:56 pm

    No surprise here. Texas dad who beat daughter’s molester to death with his bare hands is no-billed by the grand jury. I’ve spent plenty of time down in Lavaca County and the folks down there are the salt of the earth. Farmers and ranchers. A good percentage of the folks you see in the diners in Hallettsville are wearing spurs. I’ll bet the no-bill was meritorious with brass cajones clusters for valor. ROO-RAH!


  89. RIX
    89 | June 19, 2012 5:56 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    It’s not designed to be hurtful to Muslims…..but it’s rather a pleasant byproduct, no?

    Right, the “USA, USA ” chant started for the US hockey
    team that defeated the Russians & won the gold medal
    in the next game.
    But if it pisses of Muslims, that is a pleasnat unintended
    consequence.


  90. Guggi
    90 | June 19, 2012 5:57 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Goldman Sachs ‘cooked’ the Greek books so that Greece could qualify for entry into the EU.

    Not EU but Euro in 2002.

    The German chancellor Kohl and all the others chancellors, presidents, minister presidents etc. in the Euro-zone were very well aware that Greece was not fit to attend the Euro. They pushed aside every warning with the killer argument “Greece has to be part of the Euro because she is the cradle of democracy”. Really ? 2500 years ago !!!! This has nothing to do with the actual nation of Greece.


  91. Lily
    91 | June 19, 2012 5:58 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Disgusting. I’m sure the students loved being called Nazi’s for loving the United States. There is a dis-connect between the younger folk and the older folk in these places of learning. If my sons are any way shape and form of the younger generation …..they are tired of this crap. They are not down with hating our country, they are not down with them dissing their religion, they are not down with abortion, they are not down with being told something bad is good

    .

    I would say that you did a real good job raising those
    boys.

    Thanks Rix. I did a lot of praying, can’t take all the credit myself.


  92. BBEV
    92 | June 19, 2012 5:59 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Indeed!!! There is always “hope”! Average Americans are fed up with this crap…that God Bless America may offend certain cultures..those cultures can just get over it or get the hell out of our country.
    My daughter was a student at the University of Illinois when
    the Air Force did a fly over the stadium.
    The kids spontaneously chanted “USA, USA’
    A faculty researcher wrote an artcle in the shool
    newspaper calling them all a bunch of little Nazis.
    “That chant is hateful to Muslim students”

    I have so much to say about that but not one word can be said without telling the person to Fuck off and that is being nice.


  93. RIX
    93 | June 19, 2012 6:01 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    There is an old case that took place on an Indian
    Reservation.The Indian Agent raped a daughter of one of
    the tribal members.
    The guy got in his pickup, caught the creep & killed
    him. There was actually an old movie about it.
    The Verdict? Justifiable homicide!!!!!!!


  94. Lily
    94 | June 19, 2012 6:01 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    No surprise here. Texas dad who beat daughter’s molester to death with his bare hands is no-billed by the grand jury. I’ve spent plenty of time down in Lavaca County and the folks down there are the salt of the earth. Farmers and ranchers. A good percentage of the folks you see in the diners in Hallettsville are wearing spurs. I’ll bet the no-bill was meritorious with brass cajones clusters for valor. ROO-RAH!

    Actually it isn’t a surprise at all. Daddy seeing his little 4 year-old girl being molested ….the molester is already dead before the first punch is thrown.


  95. yenta-fada
    95 | June 19, 2012 6:02 pm

    @ Lily:

    How many democrats are prepared in any way for the sh!tstorm Islam is bringing us? I’m not a prepper, per se, but I agree with them. Ozero brings racial divide and financial catastrophe to the US with his out of control spending and lawless regime. Even dems are starting to notice that this is no Black Camelot with a black Jackie Kennedy.


  96. 96 | June 19, 2012 6:03 pm

    Hosni Mubarak is clinically dead, while Barack Obama is still clinically the President.


  97. 97 | June 19, 2012 6:04 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    Indeed.

    She makes me want to give Bill a special exemption on the whole adultery thing. Geez, there are some days she looks like she doesn’t even bathe, much less give a damn about her appearance!

    She got that way after the Weinergate scandal, which exposed her unseemly attachment to Muslim Brotherhood mole Huma Abedin (Anthony Weiner’s wife).

    If she wants to have a lesbian affair, that’s one thing, but why does she have to choose an enemy spy as her paramour?


  98. 98 | June 19, 2012 6:04 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    [Shakes Head, Walks Away]….


  99. yenta-fada
    99 | June 19, 2012 6:04 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Goldman Sachs ‘cooked’ the Greek books so that Greece could qualify for entry into the EU.

    Not EU but Euro in 2002.

    The German chancellor Kohl and all the others chancellors, presidents, minister presidents etc. in the Euro-zone were very well aware that Greece was not fit to attend the Euro. They pushed aside every warning with the killer argument “Greece has to be part of the Euro because she is the cradle of democracy”. Really ? 2500 years ago !!!! This has nothing to do with the actual nation of Greece.

    Talk about living in the past! While Greece may have been the ‘cradle’, the modern Greeks are doing a good job acting like infants. /


  100. RIX
    100 | June 19, 2012 6:05 pm

    @ BBEV:

    I have so much to say about that but not one word can be said without telling the person to Fuck off and that is being nice.

    Yeah, if I would have met the guy, I am pretty sure that
    I would have wanted to give him an attitude adjustmant.
    That would have been stupid, my daughter was a junior &
    really, really wanted to graduate from Illinois.


  101. huckfunn
    101 | June 19, 2012 6:06 pm

    Lily wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    No surprise here. Texas dad who beat daughter’s molester to death with his bare hands is no-billed by the grand jury. I’ve spent plenty of time down in Lavaca County and the folks down there are the salt of the earth. Farmers and ranchers. A good percentage of the folks you see in the diners in Hallettsville are wearing spurs. I’ll bet the no-bill was meritorious with brass cajones clusters for valor. ROO-RAH!

    Actually it isn’t a surprise at all. Daddy seeing his little 4 year-old girl being molested ….the molester is already dead before the first punch is thrown.

    As I said… no surprise. I called it when I first saw the story last week. No question. As Rix said… “justifiable homicide” if ever there was one.


  102. 102 | June 19, 2012 6:06 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Hosni Mubarak is clinically dead, while Barack Obama is still clinically the President.

    Yup.

    Guggi wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Goldman Sachs ‘cooked’ the Greek books so that Greece could qualify for entry into the EU.
    Not EU but Euro in 2002.
    The German chancellor Kohl and all the others chancellors, presidents, minister presidents etc. in the Euro-zone were very well aware that Greece was not fit to attend the Euro. They pushed aside every warning with the killer argument “Greece has to be part of the Euro because she is the cradle of democracy”. Really ? 2500 years ago !!!! This has nothing to do with the actual nation of Greece.

    The Eurozone is pretty much doomed. Bailouts only serve to make the collapse longer, deeper, and more painful, and the eventual recovery slower (or perhaps nonexistent).


  103. yenta-fada
    103 | June 19, 2012 6:08 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Because Shrillary LIKES the enemy. Another Alinsky radical ruining the country.


  104. RIX
    104 | June 19, 2012 6:08 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Hosni Mubarak is clinically dead, while Barack Obama is still clinically the President.

    Man you are just flirting with reeducation camp.


  105. Lily
    105 | June 19, 2012 6:08 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:

    How many democrats are prepared in any way for the sh!tstorm Islam is bringing us? I’m not a prepper, per se, but I agree with them. Ozero brings racial divide and financial catastrophe to the US with his out of control spending and lawless regime. Even dems are starting to notice that this is no Black Camelot with a black Jackie Kennedy.

    To be honest, except for the very hard-core communists we have in Congress….the dems are NOT HAPPY with this rogue president. The problem is they are in a quagmire…can’t be seen to be racist which is why I honestly don’t see Hillary making a stand at the convention but I do think some of them will help Romney into office behind the scenes. Everything this man obama is doing is no good for the country or the democrat party or for anyone in the United States.


  106. 106 | June 19, 2012 6:09 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Dead dog receives voter registration forms. (h/t Michelle’s mirror)
    http://www2.wsls.com/news/2012/jun/18/bedford-county-dead-dog-receives-voter-registratio-ar-1996759/

    Is that one for Dog Day Afternoon?


  107. heysoos
    107 | June 19, 2012 6:09 pm

    the Texas beating has to go through the system and that’s good…as I understand it the dad in no way intended to kill the fucker and was bummed that he in fact did…killing a human is a traumatic event for most people…he’s honest, he did what he did and the result is where it is now…I expect exoneration, no charges…if what we know now is true


  108. RIX
    108 | June 19, 2012 6:11 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Talk about living in the past! While Greece may have been the ‘cradle’, the modern Greeks are doing a good job acting like infants. /

    That’s what really makes the Greek situation so depressing.
    Western thoght was born there. Somehow they lost there way.


  109. Lily
    109 | June 19, 2012 6:12 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Oh indeed. At least there was no hand-wringing over the disgusting molester which would happen in other areas of the country..down here in the south…I don’t think so.


  110. RIX
    110 | June 19, 2012 6:13 pm

    Mitt Romney said at a campaign stop today that Marco
    Rubio will be fully vetted as a Vice Presidential possibility.


  111. Lily
    111 | June 19, 2012 6:14 pm

    @ heysoos:

    He has already been excoriated by the ‘no bill’ from the grand jury.
    It’s over.


  112. 112 | June 19, 2012 6:15 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    the Texas beating has to go through the system and that’s good…as I understand it the dad in no way intended to kill the fucker and was bummed that he in fact did…killing a human is a traumatic event for most people…he’s honest, he did what he did and the result is where it is now…I expect exoneration, no charges…if what we know now is true

    The Grand Jury declined indictment.

    Yeah, justice was done all the way around.


  113. Guggi
    113 | June 19, 2012 6:17 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    They should make the taxe office of Athens a tourist attraction. You won’t find anything similar all over the world. It looks like an office around the time of 1850. I’ve been in many offices in underdeveloped countries in the world but I’ve never seen anything similar.


  114. 114 | June 19, 2012 6:17 pm

    Whenever there’s trouble for Ozero, an angel gets their wings! :)


  115. heysoos
    115 | June 19, 2012 6:18 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    the Texas beating has to go through the system and that’s good…as I understand it the dad in no way intended to kill the fucker and was bummed that he in fact did…killing a human is a traumatic event for most people…he’s honest, he did what he did and the result is where it is now…I expect exoneration, no charges…if what we know now is true

    The Grand Jury declined indictment.
    Yeah, justice was done all the way around.

    good news..I did not know that, thanks


  116. Lily
    116 | June 19, 2012 6:18 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    :lol: I can believe that.


  117. 117 | June 19, 2012 6:19 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Such an awful thing all around. So glad the little girl gets to keep her father, who is pretty young himself at only 23 years old.


  118. Lily
    118 | June 19, 2012 6:21 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Such an awful thing all around. So glad the little girl gets to keep her father, who is pretty young himself at only 23 years old.

    I know my son would go LIVID if he caught anyone molesting his baby girl.


  119. heysoos
    119 | June 19, 2012 6:22 pm

    another dead ped…hard to complain about that


  120. 120 | June 19, 2012 6:22 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Such an awful thing all around. So glad the little girl gets to keep her father, who is pretty young himself at only 23 years old.

    All bluster aside, I’m pretty sure that killing a man, even when justifiable, is a terrible weight to carry for the rest of one’s life.


  121. yenta-fada
    121 | June 19, 2012 6:23 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    They should make the taxe office of Athens a tourist attraction. You won’t find anything similar all over the world. It looks like an office around the time of 1850. I’ve been in many offices in underdeveloped countries in the world but I’ve never seen anything similar.

    lol. Covered with cobwebs, dust, and employees reading the newspaper?


  122. RIX
    122 | June 19, 2012 6:23 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    The Grand Jury declined indictment.

    Yeah, justice was done all the way around

    That is the right thing. A trial would have been futile anyway.
    Where would you find jury to convict?


  123. Lily
    123 | June 19, 2012 6:24 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Such an awful thing all around. So glad the little girl gets to keep her father, who is pretty young himself at only 23 years old.

    All bluster aside, I’m pretty sure that killing a man, even when justifiable, is a terrible weight to carry for the rest of one’s life.

    It is. The emotion to protect is very strong though.


  124. heysoos
    124 | June 19, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    my dad was a Marine during the big one…a combat rifleman, he hated the Japanese with a passion, but killing them dead disturbed him a great deal…killing people is a serious event, even a sworn enemy


  125. 125 | June 19, 2012 6:27 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Where would you find jury to convict?

    Maybe Eric Holder can try him at the UN World Court for crimes against ‘lifestyle choices.’


  126. Guggi
    126 | June 19, 2012 6:28 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    The Eurozone is pretty much doomed. Bailouts only serve to make the collapse longer, deeper, and more painful, and the eventual recovery slower (or perhaps nonexistent).

    …and no one will go with the rules any longer. Why should they ? The “rich” countries have a duty now to bail them out.
    There is a draft paper out for the EU meeting at the end of June calling for Eurobonds and more integration (pdf-file)


  127. RIX
    127 | June 19, 2012 6:28 pm

    @ Lily:

    I know my son would go LIVID if he caught anyone molesting his baby girl

    .

    You go to a very deep ring in Dantes Inferno if yo mess
    with a child. You get to spend eternity with that famous
    pedophile Mohammad.


  128. RIX
    128 | June 19, 2012 6:31 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Where would you find jury to convict?
    Maybe Eric Holder can try him at the UN World Court for crimes against ‘lifestyle choices.’

    Not that far fetched. He will go after Zimmerman if he is
    acquited on state charges.
    Franz Kafka must have had Holder in mind.


  129. 129 | June 19, 2012 6:31 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    killing people is a serious event, even a sworn enemy

    Yes. And then there are those without conscience.


  130. huckfunn
    130 | June 19, 2012 6:34 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Where would you find jury to convict?

    Exactly. If he’s a 23 year old rancher in Lavaca County, he’s most likely working land that’s been in his family for 100 years or more. Anyone sitting on a trial jury, or as in this case a grand jury, would be related to, or acquainted with his family for many years. No way any jury would indict or convict a young man for a justifiable act. Halletesville is a long way from Orlando.


  131. Guggi
    131 | June 19, 2012 6:34 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    lol. Covered with cobwebs, dust, and employees reading the newspaper?

    This and they have only wooden tables and chairs. Nothing else. No computers, not even calculators or typewriters. And mountains of untreated taxe files, mountains and mountains of them wrapped in brown paper. They take them from one table to another and the work is done for the day.


  132. yenta-fada
    132 | June 19, 2012 6:37 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Most so-called ‘rich’ countries are deeply in debt themselves. They also have one another by the throat because they are holding the debts of sovereign nations who cannot balance their books. It’s like a circular firing squad, I think. Canada, despite all appearances, has a great deal of consumer debt, mostly mortgages. Our banking system is directly tied to all of the other Central Banks.


  133. Lily
    133 | June 19, 2012 6:38 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I know my son would go LIVID if he caught anyone molesting his baby girl

    .

    You go to a very deep ring in Dantes Inferno if yo mess
    with a child. You get to spend eternity with that famous
    pedophile Mohammad.

    Indeed.


  134. yenta-fada
    134 | June 19, 2012 6:38 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    lol. Covered with cobwebs, dust, and employees reading the newspaper?

    This and they have only wooden tables and chairs. Nothing else. No computers, not even calculators or typewriters. And mountains of untreated taxe files, mountains and mountains of them wrapped in brown paper. They take them from one table to another and the work is done for the day.

    Is that a Greek tragedy or a Greek comedy? lol


  135. yenta-fada
    135 | June 19, 2012 6:39 pm

    Dinner. Later.


  136. RIX
    136 | June 19, 2012 6:42 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Exactly. If he’s a 23 year old rancher in Lavaca County, he’s most likely working land that’s been in his family for 100 years or more. Anyone sitting on a trial jury, or as in this case a grand jury, would be related to, or acquainted with his family for many years. No way any jury would indict or convict a young man for a justifiable act. Halletesville is a long way from Orlando

    .

    That’s interesting. A trial would have been silly.


  137. Guggi
    137 | June 19, 2012 6:46 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    We all dance and party on a volcano. But the very source of all this misery are the politicians. Yes, you can call many bankers tricksters but they would’nt be able to be it without stupid, greedy and ideologically misguided politicians. Most politicians are either stupid like lookwarm water or nefarious ideologues and/or criminals.

    Can you imagine that the EU is now urging Greece to invest in solar-and wind power ? How can a bankrupt state pay subsides in the billions ?


  138. coldwarrior
    138 | June 19, 2012 7:00 pm

    someof the things that i have heard said about obama out of the mouths of dems round western pa cant be reprinted on the blog.


  139. huckfunn
    139 | June 19, 2012 7:02 pm

    RIX wrote:

    That’s interesting. A trial would have been silly.

    The pool of people eligable for grand jury or trial jury is the same the same pool. :grin: Another interesting fact. Quite a few people down there have direct family roots to the Alamo, Goliad and San Jacinto.


  140. huckfunn
    140 | June 19, 2012 7:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    someof the things that i have heard said about obama out of the mouths of dems round western pa cant be reprinted on the blog.

    Oh, c’mon… you can tell us.


  141. Lily
    141 | June 19, 2012 7:06 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    obama has divided this country like I’ve never seen. If children sing, God Bless the USA..they should go to hell because it is offensive. Since when is our patriotic songs offensive? Bho can’t bring himself to even wear the flag pin unless he HAS TO. Not to mention Putin giving our president a tongue lashing. What strange days we are living in it has gone nuts.


  142. coldwarrior
    142 | June 19, 2012 7:10 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    its best if i just leave it up to yinz’s imagination.


  143. Lily
    143 | June 19, 2012 7:13 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    its best if i just leave it up to yinz’s imagination.

    I can only imagine ….. no you don’t have to even say what they have said.


  144. Guggi
    144 | June 19, 2012 7:14 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    its best if i just leave it up to yinz’s imagination.

    Is it comparable to Mahers statement that the “GOP is a party of apes” ?


  145. huckfunn
    145 | June 19, 2012 7:15 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    its best if i just leave it up to yinz’s imagination.

    :mrgreen: I’ve got a lurid imagination. Haven’t seen you around much lately. I’m hoping that you can regale us with some tales of blood, gore and mayhem.


  146. coldwarrior
    146 | June 19, 2012 7:18 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Is it comparable to Mahers statement that the “GOP is a party of apes” ?

    its pretty bad. i havent seen this many dems this pissed off ever.

    its does not look good for obama, and if romneyu picks toomey as veep, well, then its all over but the cryin’


  147. coldwarrior
    147 | June 19, 2012 7:21 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Haven’t seen you around much lately. I’m hoping that you can regale us with some tales of blood, gore and mayhem.

    busy getting oriented to my new job. soooooo much to learn. i have to be there every day this week and then it slows down a bit.


  148. waldensianspirit
    148 | June 19, 2012 7:21 pm

    Helping an older fellow with a flat tire last evening. He reminded me about the cash for clunkers. He’s pissed his usual beater upgrades just aren’t available


  149. 149 | June 19, 2012 7:22 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    its pretty bad. i havent seen this many dems this pissed off ever.

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.


  150. Guggi
    150 | June 19, 2012 7:23 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    toomey

    Who is toomey ?


  151. coldwarrior
    151 | June 19, 2012 7:25 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    outside of phillie area, PA has plenty of old school dems who are still patriotic. if you look at the map, the area around pgh versus the area around phillie bears this out. there are two PA’s anymore for dems, liberals in the east and conservative reagan dems in the west.


  152. huckfunn
    152 | June 19, 2012 7:26 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    toomey

    Who is toomey ?

    He’s the GOP Pennsylvania senator who beat Arlen Sphincter.


  153. brookly red
    153 | June 19, 2012 7:26 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.

    I am worried that O will try to deflect negativity away from himself and on to Holder (and maybe some others too) and throw them under the bus closer to the election to show what a great guy he is… that’s why it is important to get to Holder sooner than later.


  154. coldwarrior
    154 | June 19, 2012 7:26 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    toomey
    Who is toomey ?

    he is the fiscal conservative republican senator from pennsylvania


  155. Lily
    155 | June 19, 2012 7:26 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    its pretty bad. i havent seen this many dems this pissed off ever.

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.

    It’s getting ugly. The more negative press and radio and books and articles about him is going to drive him off the edge. Just because kooky celebraties love him he is sorely mis-staken that most of the country thinks the same way when in reality most the country is down right pissed at how he is handling things.


  156. Guggi
    156 | June 19, 2012 7:29 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Most so-called ‘rich’ countries are deeply in debt themselves. They also have one another by the throat because they are holding the debts of sovereign nations who cannot balance their books. It’s like a circular firing squad, I think. Canada, despite all appearances, has a great deal of consumer debt, mostly mortgages. Our banking system is directly tied to all of the other Central Banks.

    Debt crisis: Spain and Italy to be bailed out in £600bn deal

    European leaders are poised to announce a £600 billion deal to bail out Spain and Italy, it emerged at the G20 summit on Tuesday night.


  157. Lily
    157 | June 19, 2012 7:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.

    I am worried that O will try to deflect negativity away from himself and on to Holder (and maybe some others too) and throw them under the bus closer to the election to show what a great guy he is… that’s why it is important to get to Holder sooner than later.

    There is no honor among theives. Don’t think for a moment that if he does this that all of them will not turn on him and start singing like canary’s . They know where all the bodies are buried and sure as hell will let everyone know.


  158. huckfunn
    158 | June 19, 2012 7:30 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    there are two PA’s anymore for dems, liberals communists in the east and conservative reagan dems in the west.

    FIFY!


  159. brookly red
    159 | June 19, 2012 7:30 pm

    @ Lily:

    I think we shall see some traditionally blue states turn up red this time around…


  160. Guggi
    160 | June 19, 2012 7:32 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    he is the fiscal conservative republican senator from pennsylvania

    Oh, Pat Toomey. What’s about Marco Rubio as vice ?


  161. 161 | June 19, 2012 7:32 pm

    Lily wrote:

    It’s getting ugly. The more negative press and radio and books and articles about him is going to drive him off the edge.

    We all what happened when the reporter from the Daily Caller just asked him a simple question. He can’t handle it.


  162. Lily
    162 | June 19, 2012 7:32 pm

    @ brookly red:

    You can take that to the bank. ;)


  163. brookly red
    163 | June 19, 2012 7:33 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.

    I am worried that O will try to deflect negativity away from himself and on to Holder (and maybe some others too) and throw them under the bus closer to the election to show what a great guy he is… that’s why it is important to get to Holder sooner than later.

    There is no honor among theives. Don’t think for a moment that if he does this that all of them will not turn on him and start singing like canary’s . They know where all the bodies are buried and sure as hell will let everyone know.

    not so much for Holder… people died. He ain’t gonna rat on the one guy that can pardon him.


  164. Lily
    164 | June 19, 2012 7:34 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    It’s getting ugly. The more negative press and radio and books and articles about him is going to drive him off the edge.

    We all what happened when the reporter from the Daily Caller just asked him a simple question. He can’t handle it.

    Nope he can’t handle it. Plus the reporter was called a racist for doing that. Sick of the word…’racist’.


  165. coldwarrior
    165 | June 19, 2012 7:35 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    he is the fiscal conservative republican senator from pennsylvania
    Oh, Pat Toomey. What’s about Marco Rubio as vice ?

    that would be an even better pick, or even gov jindal…its all speculation at this point


  166. Lily
    166 | June 19, 2012 7:35 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.

    I am worried that O will try to deflect negativity away from himself and on to Holder (and maybe some others too) and throw them under the bus closer to the election to show what a great guy he is… that’s why it is important to get to Holder sooner than later.

    There is no honor among theives. Don’t think for a moment that if he does this that all of them will not turn on him and start singing like canary’s . They know where all the bodies are buried and sure as hell will let everyone know.

    not so much for Holder… people died. He ain’t gonna rat on the one guy that can pardon him.

    You honestly think he will not take obama down with him? After all he has done for obama? No. obama doesn’t dare throw him under the bus.


  167. 167 | June 19, 2012 7:38 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    that’s why it is important to get to Holder sooner than later.

    http://youtu.be/mz05B9sPmxU


  168. 168 | June 19, 2012 7:38 pm

    Pimf!


  169. huckfunn
    169 | June 19, 2012 7:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    You honestly think he will not take obama down with him? After all he has done for obama? No. obama doesn’t dare throw him under the bus.

    Holder already has the signed pardon in his safe deposit box and his sole purpose is to deliver the margin of fraud in November. He’ll be in the bunker until the end.


  170. brookly red
    170 | June 19, 2012 7:41 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I heard a flaming and scathing Dems for Hillary ad on the radio the other day. They urged the delegates to challenge Obamer. They also ripped Holder a new one.

    I am worried that O will try to deflect negativity away from himself and on to Holder (and maybe some others too) and throw them under the bus closer to the election to show what a great guy he is… that’s why it is important to get to Holder sooner than later.

    There is no honor among theives. Don’t think for a moment that if he does this that all of them will not turn on him and start singing like canary’s . They know where all the bodies are buried and sure as hell will let everyone know.

    not so much for Holder… people died. He ain’t gonna rat on the one guy that can pardon him.

    You honestly think he will not take obama down with him? After all he has done for obama? No. obama doesn’t dare throw him under the bus.

    “Look Eric, fired and pardoned or extradited to Mexico… seems like a no brainer to me”.


  171. Guggi
    171 | June 19, 2012 7:42 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    that would be an even better pick, or even gov jindal…its all speculation at this point

    Romney vetting Rubio as possible candidate for vice president


  172. waldensianspirit
    172 | June 19, 2012 7:46 pm

    I could see Obama throwing Biden under a tricycle and announce Valerie Jarrett as his new running mate.


  173. huckfunn
    173 | June 19, 2012 7:49 pm

    Mitt is really stepping up to the plate. Watch him heckle the hecklers. Shuts ‘em up in a hurry.


  174. brookly red
    174 | June 19, 2012 7:49 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I could see Obama throwing Biden under a tricycle and announce Valerie Jarrett as his new running mate.

    I could see Moochell taking the kids and spliting to Paris with a large advance on her forthcoming tell-all book (in 3 parts with movie rights)


  175. brookly red
    175 | June 19, 2012 7:53 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Mitt is really stepping up to the plate. Watch him heckle the hecklers. Shuts ‘em up in a hurry.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/anti-romney-protesters-say-theyre-paid-to-heckle

    mercenaries are not reliable… never were never will be.


  176. huckfunn
    176 | June 19, 2012 8:02 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    mercenaries are not reliable… never were never will be.

    Yessir! When the paid goons are all the bad guys have left, you know they’re in trouble.


  177. Guggi
    177 | June 19, 2012 8:06 pm

    @ brookly red:

    They should shout “good jobs NOW” in front of Obama.


  178. 178 | June 19, 2012 8:06 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Yessir! When the paid goons are all the bad guys have left, you know they’re in trouble.

    Wait until he stiffs them! LOL!


  179. 179 | June 19, 2012 8:11 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    met a guy today from Penn, and when I ask him what part, he replied the sane part with out hte liberal madness.


  180. huckfunn
    180 | June 19, 2012 8:13 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Wait until he stiffs them! LOL!

    Ha ha! That would be a mistake.


  181. 181 | June 19, 2012 8:14 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I could see Obama throwing Biden under a tricycle and announce Valerie Jarrett as his new running mate.

    Too bad gaffer Joe can’t dump ObamAA+ and get some one different.
    It would not shock me if this season’s October Suprise is tossing Barry under the bus in favor of Hildabeast.


  182. huckfunn
    182 | June 19, 2012 8:15 pm

    JeremyR wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    met a guy today from Penn, and when I ask him what part, he replied the sane part with out hte liberal madness.

    Gotta be from the west or southwest.


  183. 183 | June 19, 2012 9:09 pm

    Obama will likely spend his entire term having never signed a budget. Has this ever been done before?


  184. rain of lead
    184 | June 19, 2012 9:12 pm

    hey ya’ll
    just a drive-by post
    took a beer break
    the ceiling in the girls bathroom is now DONE!
    trim is next :-(
    ( have i ever said….I HATE PAINTING!!!)


  185. RIX
    185 | June 19, 2012 9:22 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Obama will likely spend his entire term having never signed a budget. Has this ever been done before?

    Isn’t everything that he does “unprecedented”


  186. Bumr50
    186 | June 19, 2012 9:24 pm

    @ RIX:

    Precedence or the Constitution.

    Which does he hate more?

    We MUST write the history books somehow.


  187. RIX
    187 | June 19, 2012 9:29 pm

    Anybody catch the Obamas speech in Los Cabos?
    He punished them with a speech on European
    economics.
    He was just reading from prepared notes & you
    could tell that he didn’t understand a damn thing
    that he said.
    This is a national embrassment.


  188. Bumr50
    188 | June 19, 2012 9:30 pm

    @ RIX:

    I’ll take your word for it. Thanks for watching so I don’t have to.


  189. RIX
    189 | June 19, 2012 9:31 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Precedence or the Constitution.
    Which does he hate more?
    We MUST write the history books somehow.

    I think that it’s a jump ball. This guy is making war
    on America.


  190. RIX
    190 | June 19, 2012 9:33 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    I hear ya, The sound of Obamas voice make my teeth itch.
    His tonal inflections let you knoew that he doesn’t
    understand what he’s talking about.


  191. 191 | June 19, 2012 9:39 pm

    Just saw Hannity’s interview with Romney. He called Turkey and Saudi Arabia are friends. He supports the Muslim Brotherhood insurgency in Syria.

    How is his foreign policy different than Obama’s?

    Sickening.

    New Thread


  192. brookly red
    192 | June 19, 2012 9:39 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Anybody catch the Obamas speech in Los Cabos?
    He punished them with a speech on European
    economics.
    He was just reading from prepared notes & you
    could tell that he didn’t understand a damn thing
    that he said.

    This is a national embrassment.

    well of course he didn’t understand it… if he understood it he would be a republican. unless of course he really wanted to f’ thing up.


  193. RIX
    193 | June 19, 2012 9:44 pm

    @ brookly red:
    True


  194. Alberta Oil Peon
    194 | June 19, 2012 9:45 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Holder might rat out Obama, if he were given immunity in exchange?


  195. darkwords
    195 | June 19, 2012 9:46 pm

    @ 19 Lily: Seems like a major sin to me. I am too understand even if your wife wears the worst smock ever she is too still be beautiful to husband. Won’t she resent him?


  196. darkwords
    196 | June 19, 2012 9:47 pm

    @ 19 Rodan: non consequential for him unless he is weak on Israel. At that level of Politics President Rodan would be saying ok to turkey but working to rein them in. Can’t pick a fight with everyone.


  197. darkwords
    197 | June 19, 2012 9:49 pm

    @ 171 Guggi: That is the best choice to me.


  198. 198 | June 19, 2012 10:26 pm

    RIX wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Obama will likely spend his entire term having never signed a budget. Has this ever been done before?

    Isn’t everything that he does “unprecedented”

    Well, I do know its unpresidential….


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