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How low can the Obama campaign go? Pretty damn low…

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 73 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Communism, Cult of Obama, Democratic Party, Economy, Elections 2012, Marxism, Politics, Progressives at June 26th, 2012 - 8:00 pm

You don’t need no stinking wedding, anniversary, or birthday presents, comrades!

Instead, you should tell everyone you invited to your event or celebration to make a donation to re-elect our Dear Leader!

So, in lieu of getting a gift, why not ask your guests to make a donation to Obama, so his regime can continue to destroy America, appease our enemies, and crap on our friends, unfettered, for four more years without having to worry about being re-elected?

How pathetic can they get? Well, I don’t know if pathetic is the right word. Maybe it’s desperate. But however you describe it, it’s extremely crass, and obviously low class.

But considering that it’s coming from these America-hating Marxist losers occupying the White House, does it surprise anyone?

These libs have no shame whatsoever.

H/T to Denny.

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73 Responses to “How low can the Obama campaign go? Pretty damn low…”
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  1. 1 | June 26, 2012 8:15 pm

    What a bum!


  2. waldensianspirit
    2 | June 26, 2012 8:24 pm

    He should sell his image to be on the wedding napkins


  3. Xeon
    3 | June 26, 2012 8:26 pm

    …or urinal cakes


  4. 4 | June 26, 2012 8:33 pm

    This went over like a thick brick. The campaign gets dumb and dumber. Yesterday they handed Arizona to Romney, the EPA is giving him Ohio, now they are talking about how bad fracking is which could give him Pennsylvania.


  5. mawskrat
    5 | June 26, 2012 8:51 pm

    can’t see Obamie from my deck

    just enjoying the evening


  6. 6 | June 26, 2012 8:52 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    now they are talking about how bad fracking is which could give him Pennsylvania.

    Depends on the hipster vote in Pittburgh. Here along the Front Range, we make our living from tourism, high-tech and “green jobs” (read: rent-seeking scum). The rest of Colorado is historically mining country. But we outnumber them -- unfortunately.


  7. 7 | June 26, 2012 8:53 pm

    As for the original topic, yeah, Obama’s a cult. I did get some lulz in when the people organising the Louisville Street Faire stuck the Obama folks at the end of the midway next to the Scientologists. I *wish* I’d taken a picture.


  8. EBL
  9. mawskrat
    9 | June 26, 2012 9:02 pm

    EBL wrote:

    You Cretans just don’t appreciate art!

    where does that link take me>LOL//

    jus askin


  10. huckfunn
    10 | June 26, 2012 9:08 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    This went over like a thick brick. The campaign gets dumb and dumber. Yesterday they handed Arizona to Romney, the EPA is giving him Ohio, now they are talking about how bad fracking is which could give him Pennsylvania.

    I was out enjoying some solitude in the pool; just floating and lollygagging. Then it hit me. For all of his campaigning, fundraising and speechifying, Obama knows he going to lose. He doesn’t even give a shit anymore so from this point forward he will do as much damage as he can. Now here’s the scary part. What will he do in the lame duck months between November and January?


  11. 11 | June 26, 2012 9:09 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    Too many Conservatives are underestimating the Hipsters.


  12. 12 | June 26, 2012 9:16 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    One thing that still scares me. Look at Obama’s poll numbers. I have never seen someone be such a screw up and still be competitive. It’s scary and the one thing That makes me worry.


  13. Bob in Breckenridge
    13 | June 26, 2012 9:16 pm

    You know things are going downhill when even the ancient anti-Semite Jimmah Carter is turning on Dear Leader.


  14. 14 | June 26, 2012 9:17 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    “green jobs” (read: rent-seeking scum)

    Like Gus802?

    :lol:


  15. 15 | June 26, 2012 9:18 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    That must put Charles in a tough spot!


  16. Da_Beerfreak
    16 | June 26, 2012 9:19 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rancher wrote:

    This went over like a thick brick. The campaign gets dumb and dumber. Yesterday they handed Arizona to Romney, the EPA is giving him Ohio, now they are talking about how bad fracking is which could give him Pennsylvania.

    I was out enjoying some solitude in the pool; just floating and lollygagging. Then it hit me. For all of his campaigning, fundraising and speechifying, Obama knows he going to lose. He doesn’t even give a shit anymore so from this point forward he will do as much damage as he can. Now here’s the scary part. What will he do in the lame duck months between November and January?

    Depending on what his “October Surprise” turns out to be; my bet is that he is planning on stealing a second term. I’m also willing to bet that he thinks no one in DC Town has the balls to stop him. (And he just might be right about that.) Compared to the death and destruction he can cause as a lame duck; stealing the election might be the lessor of two evils… :evil:


  17. Bob in Breckenridge
    17 | June 26, 2012 9:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    One thing that still scares me. Look at Obama’s poll numbers. I have never seen someone be such a screw up and still be competitive. It’s scary and the one thing That makes me worry.

    Look at the poll though, Rodan. It’s registered voters, NOT likely voters, and despite that, Obama still cannot get above 50%, and with 9% undecided, 70% of those undecideds will vote anti-incumbent, so they’ll vote for Romney.


  18. 18 | June 26, 2012 9:20 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Remember the Republican surrender after the 2010 election in that Lame Duck session?


  19. Da_Beerfreak
    19 | June 26, 2012 9:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Remember the Republican surrender after the 2010 election in that Lame Duck session?

    All too well. :evil:


  20. huckfunn
    20 | June 26, 2012 9:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    One thing that still scares me. Look at Obama’s poll numbers. I have never seen someone be such a screw up and still be competitive. It’s scary and the one thing That makes me worry.

    Take a look at who’s doing the polls where Obama is ahead. Of the 4 showing Obama in the lead, one of them is NBC/WSJ and 2 of them are PPP; both of them are left-leaning. I’m not really sure who WeAskAmerica is. The only one I really trust is Rasmussen as he polls likely voters. It would be interesting to see the polling samples for NBC/WSJ and PPP. I’ll bet they’re polling more dims than repubs.


  21. Bob in Breckenridge
    21 | June 26, 2012 9:24 pm

    huckfunn wrote:
    Now here’s the scary part. What will he do in the lame duck months between November and January?

    Fortunately, he won’t be able to do much, not with the House controlled by the GOP, and the senate just barely controlled by the libs, so expect filibusters galore if Dear Leader tries anything. All that leaves are executive orders.


  22. huckfunn
    22 | June 26, 2012 9:25 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Yessir. Likely voters are the key to a proper polling sample.


  23. Bob in Breckenridge
    23 | June 26, 2012 9:28 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    One thing that still scares me. Look at Obama’s poll numbers. I have never seen someone be such a screw up and still be competitive. It’s scary and the one thing That makes me worry.

    Take a look at who’s doing the polls where Obama is ahead. Of the 4 showing Obama in the lead, one of them is NBC/WSJ and 2 of them are PPP; both of them are left-leaning. I’m not really sure who WeAskAmerica is. The only one I really trust is Rasmussen as he polls likely voters. It would be interesting to see the polling samples for NBC/WSJ and PPP. I’ll bet they’re polling more dims than repubs.

    Same here, I only trust Rasmussen. And Rasmussen has Romney plus 3, 47% to 44%, with 9% undecided, and like I said upthread, the vast majoeity of undecideds will vote for Romney.


  24. huckfunn
    24 | June 26, 2012 9:28 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    All that leaves are executive orders.

    He’s already done extreme damage with executive orders that will take decades to repair. He’ll be shoveling money out the door with both hands and offering every possible remaining secret to our enemies, if he hasn’t already.

    Supper time…


  25. The Osprey
    25 | June 26, 2012 9:29 pm

    To Defeat Obama in 2012 Tell The Story Of Chicago’s Decline

    Just connect Obama with Chicago from head to toe. Obama’s Chicago is radioactive. You don’t need third world Kenya to defeat Obama. Chicago is a third world city, right here in the middle of America.

    Guns are everywhere in the hands of criminals, while law abiding citizens are banned from defending themselves. This is the result of the gun control laws that Obama supports so strongly. They have turned Chicago into a swamp infested with murder, rape, assault, home invasion robbery, car-jacking, and muggings.

    This is what happens when you ban guns. Criminals run free, unfettered by the same laws that wind up leaving good people defenseless and dead.

    But wait…it gets worse. The state of Illinois just raised income taxes in dramatic fashion, pushing its productive citizens out in droves, while property taxes in Chicago are among the highest in the nation.

    Why?

    Because Illinois leads the nation in debt and under-funded pensions for government employees. The state of Illinois and the city of Chicago are both for all intents and purposes bankrupt and insolvent.


  26. Da_Beerfreak
    26 | June 26, 2012 9:29 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    One thing that still scares me. Look at Obama’s poll numbers. I have never seen someone be such a screw up and still be competitive. It’s scary and the one thing That makes me worry.

    Take a look at who’s doing the polls where Obama is ahead. Of the 4 showing Obama in the lead, one of them is NBC/WSJ and 2 of them are PPP; both of them are left-leaning. I’m not really sure who WeAskAmerica is. The only one I really trust is Rasmussen as he polls likely voters. It would be interesting to see the polling samples for NBC/WSJ and PPP. I’ll bet they’re polling more dims than repubs.

    IMHO most if not all public polls are nothing more then the lame stream media getting feedback on how well their propaganda is doing and how it might be fine tuned to keep the mindless masses on the plantation… :evil:


  27. waldensianspirit
    27 | June 26, 2012 9:30 pm

    And the pardons! They’ll be doosies


  28. Dolphin
    28 | June 26, 2012 9:30 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    I agree on principle. I don’t think he cares one way or the other. He is bored and frustrated with the whole “job” and the checks and balances built into our constitution has him frustrated. Will he take another four years, yes, will he enjoy it? Probably not. I don’t think he or mooochel have enjoyed the last two years -- campaigning being the exception and even now that is becoming a chore.

    Oh, and his (-0-’s) golfing -- I think he enjoys that (maybe -- he sucks).


  29. Bob in Breckenridge
    29 | June 26, 2012 9:31 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:
    All that leaves are executive orders.
    He’s already done extreme damage with executive orders that will take decades to repair. He’ll be shoveling money out the door with both hands and offering every possible remaining secret to our enemies, if he hasn’t already.
    Supper time…

    Actually, Obama’s executive orders can be reversed by Romney, like Obama did when he reversed Bush’s banning taxpayer dollars for embryonic stem cell research on his first day in office.


  30. yenta-fada
    30 | June 26, 2012 9:34 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Yessir. Likely voters are the key to a proper polling sample.

    Worse than the Mongol hordes, Obama is prepping thousands of LAWYERS!

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_LAWYERING_UP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-06-26-12-58-13


  31. waldensianspirit
    31 | June 26, 2012 9:35 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Romney can remove the extra tax on white women tanning Obama decreed to please Mooch. It’ll really piss her off when that tax falls


  32. Da_Beerfreak
    32 | June 26, 2012 9:38 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    I’m still waiting for someone to reverse Carter’s E.O. banning the U.S. from repossessing used nuclear fuel rods that he enacted back in the late ’70s. E.O.s will be the death of this Country. :evil:


  33. RIX
    33 | June 26, 2012 9:42 pm

    How much of stretch is it for Obama to ask to be written
    in wills & kiddie piggy banks?
    The first time they visted the Queen I really thougt that
    Mooch might ask for some of the Crown Bling.
    This is low class trash


  34. 34 | June 26, 2012 9:42 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    And the pardons! They’ll be doosies

    Can he pardon Holder if he hasn’t been convicted yet? Ford pardoned Nixon and Nixon hadn’t been convicted.


  35. huckfunn
    35 | June 26, 2012 9:43 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    One thing that still scares me. Look at Obama’s poll numbers. I have never seen someone be such a screw up and still be competitive. It’s scary and the one thing That makes me worry.

    Take a look at who’s doing the polls where Obama is ahead. Of the 4 showing Obama in the lead, one of them is NBC/WSJ and 2 of them are PPP; both of them are left-leaning. I’m not really sure who WeAskAmerica is. The only one I really trust is Rasmussen as he polls likely voters. It would be interesting to see the polling samples for NBC/WSJ and PPP. I’ll bet they’re polling more dims than repubs.

    IMHO most if not all public polls are nothing more then the lame stream media getting feedback on how well their propaganda is doing and how it might be fine tuned to keep the mindless masses on the plantation…

    I think Rasmussen is the exception. He’s been the go-to guy for the past 3 (I think) presidential elections and has been the most accurate. The rest of them? Yes, I agree with you.


  36. 36 | June 26, 2012 9:44 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Obama is prepping thousands of LAWYERS!

    Didn’t help in 2008.


  37. yenta-fada
    37 | June 26, 2012 9:46 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Romney can remove the extra tax on white women tanning Obama decreed to please Mooch. It’ll really piss her off when that tax falls

    I read, from my usual gossipy ‘newsbird’ sources, that Mooch is very dark skinned, and that she uses a lot of make-up on her face and upper body to look lighter. So, while Mooch wear wigs of very straight hair and changes her skin color, she’s all proud of her ‘African-American’ heritage? Color her the usual color of hypocrisy (which is probably deep Marxist red).


  38. huckfunn
    38 | June 26, 2012 9:48 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    I agree on principle. I don’t think he cares one way or the other. He is bored and frustrated with the whole “job” and the checks and balances built into our constitution has him frustrated. Will he take another four years, yes, will he enjoy it? Probably not. I don’t think he or mooochel have enjoyed the last two years – campaigning being the exception and even now that is becoming a chore.

    Oh, and his (-0-’s) golfing – I think he enjoys that (maybe – he sucks).

    Personally, he’s the most self absorbed, self centered narcissist that has ever held the office. The Missus and I were just discussing that. He cares not one wit for all of the dem senators and congressmen that will go down with him nor all the ones that went down in 2010 defending Obamacare. The smart ones have already bailed on his convention in September and there will be more.


  39. 39 | June 26, 2012 9:48 pm

    Xeon wrote:

    …or urinal cakes

    There already are images of Obama on urinal cakes. Though I doubt any proceeds go to his campaign.

    He’s all ghetto, all the time.


  40. yenta-fada
    40 | June 26, 2012 9:50 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Obama is prepping thousands of LAWYERS!

    Didn’t help in 2008.

    Yes, however they have had over 3 years of expert training in criminality….
    I saw Elizabeth Warren, aka Fauxcahontas, introducing Ozero to a crowd today. She was doing the yelling harpy thing pretty well. Barney Frank said he would make her a senator, so they are giving her a high profile. She’s another lying lawyer. :-(


  41. RIX
    41 | June 26, 2012 9:50 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    And the pardons! They’ll be doosies
    Can he pardon Holder if he hasn’t been convicted yet? Ford pardoned Nixon and Nixon hadn’t been convicted.

    Yes, and Tony Rezko will get a pardon.


  42. yenta-fada
    42 | June 26, 2012 9:51 pm

    RIX wrote:

    How much of stretch is it for Obama to ask to be written
    in wills & kiddie piggy banks?
    The first time they visted the Queen I really thougt that
    Mooch might ask for some of the Crown Bling.
    This is low class trash

    Maybe Mooch will ask to have the bust of Winston Churchill back! ahahahahahahaha


  43. 43 | June 26, 2012 9:52 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    I get all that. But its scary that he’s in the mid 40′s. He should be in the 30′s. We are dealing with a cult. Its scary if you think about it.


  44. Dolphin
    44 | June 26, 2012 9:53 pm

    @ Rancher:
    Oh, I want holder to go down. Down so hard that what remains of his recessive chin no longer exists. Same with axelrod. Some one here brought up the gangsta, thugs of the admin a week or so ago. My name for holder is “Eric the beak” and for Axle rod -- he is”comb over” I have more, just can’t remember them all right now.


  45. yenta-fada
    45 | June 26, 2012 9:55 pm

    Early Mooch was an early class act.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-mLO0ZgOwc&feature=player_embedded#!


  46. RIX
    46 | June 26, 2012 9:56 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Maybe Mooch will ask to have the bust of Winston Churchill back! ahahahahahahaha

    She wants no part of that old dead honkie.
    She hates the powerful “Irish Chicago families”
    She thinks that her dad didn’t get good promotions
    working for nthe City.
    Those are based on tests, he had a good patronage job.


  47. huckfunn
    47 | June 26, 2012 9:58 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Can he pardon Holder if he hasn’t been convicted yet? Ford pardoned Nixon and Nixon hadn’t been convicted.

    Holder’s pardon is undoubtedly signed, sealed and in Holder’s safe deposit box. Speaking of Holder and pardons, it was Eric Holder who worked out the deal when Bill Clinton, on his last day in office, pardoned Marc Rich.


  48. yenta-fada
    48 | June 26, 2012 9:58 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ Rancher:
    Oh, I want holder to go down. Down so hard that what remains of his recessive chin no longer exists. Same with axelrod. Some one here brought up the gangsta, thugs of the admin a week or so ago. My name for holder is “Eric the beak” and for Axle rod – he is”comb over” I have more, just can’t remember them all right now.

    Obama, Axelrod, Holder, and Assad of Jordan all have weak chins. I don’t know what that means, but it’s probably not good.


  49. waldensianspirit
    49 | June 26, 2012 9:58 pm

    Putin ‘at a loss’ after Bethlehem street named for him

    Where’s Obama’s Israeli street going to be? In the Valley of Hinnon?


  50. RIX
    50 | June 26, 2012 9:59 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Early Mooch was an early class act.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-mLO0ZgOwc&feature=player_embedded#!

    Think about it, her minority set aside denied a good
    student a seat at Princeton.


  51. yenta-fada
    51 | June 26, 2012 10:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Maybe Mooch will ask to have the bust of Winston Churchill back! ahahahahahahaha

    She wants no part of that old dead honkie.
    She hates the powerful “Irish Chicago families”
    She thinks that her dad didn’t get good promotions
    working for nthe City.
    Those are based on tests, he had a good patronage job.

    You always have good Chicago info that the rest of us don’t know about. Mooch lies about being ‘working class’. Her mother didn’t work for a living any more than Ann Romney did. Probably a lot less because there were only 2 kids at the Robinsons.


  52. 52 | June 26, 2012 10:01 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Can he pardon Holder if he hasn’t been convicted yet?

    Yes. Not sure he can do it if he is impeached first though… :twisted:


  53. yenta-fada
    53 | June 26, 2012 10:01 pm

    RIX wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Early Mooch was an early class act.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-mLO0ZgOwc&feature=player_embedded#!

    Think about it, her minority set aside denied a good
    student a seat at Princeton.

    Indeed. She is denying the U.S. a good first lady. It’s an affirmative action pattern.


  54. RIX
    54 | June 26, 2012 10:05 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Indeed. She is denying the U.S. a good first lady. It’s an affirmative action pattern

    But you know , when she was sitting next to Carla Bruni
    you could hardly tell them apart./


  55. mawskrat
    55 | June 26, 2012 10:08 pm

    @ RIX:

    but can you still get a good
    Chicago hot dog?//


  56. waldensianspirit
    56 | June 26, 2012 10:09 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Not this term


  57. yenta-fada
    57 | June 26, 2012 10:10 pm

    @ RIX:


  58. Dolphin
    58 | June 26, 2012 10:10 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    So did arafart -- whops, misspelled that lol. Got to get off and get to bed. Night all.


  59. RIX
    59 | June 26, 2012 10:12 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    You always have good Chicago info that the rest of us don’t know about. Mooch lies about being ‘working class’. Her mother didn’t work for a living any more than Ann Romney did. Probably a lot less because there were only 2 kids at the Robinsons

    .

    Thank you , lots of years here & some experience with
    the Machine. The Robinsons were not wealthy, but they
    were deciedly middle class.
    Her father had a good paying Civil Srvice job & very secure.
    He was also a Machine Precinct Captain.


  60. RIX
    60 | June 26, 2012 10:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Now that is damn funny!


  61. darkwords
    61 | June 26, 2012 10:15 pm

    Give this lefty college student site a page hit and a comment. It will help towards the anti kimberlin effort. And spread the word.


  62. yenta-fada
    62 | June 26, 2012 10:17 pm

    @ RIX:

    :-) :-)


  63. 63 | June 26, 2012 10:18 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    BWAHAHAHAH…………………………………….. :twisted:


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | June 26, 2012 10:18 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Now that is damn funny!

    It’s the only thing I’ll miss about the Mooch. Endless source of satire.


  65. RIX
    65 | June 26, 2012 10:22 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    Now that is damn funny!
    It’s the only thing I’ll miss about the Mooch. Endless source of satire.

    She does provide lots of humor.
    The whole idea about them piling into the White House
    with Mama Robinson in tow is like a sitcom.


  66. citizen_q
    66 | June 26, 2012 10:30 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Now that is damn funny!

    It’s the only thing I’ll miss about the Mooch. Endless source of satire.

    Don’t despair, even out of office we won’t be free of those grifters.


  67. RIX
    67 | June 26, 2012 10:32 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Don’t despair, even out of office we won’t be free of those grifters.

    I think that Clinton might hunt him down & kick
    his worthless butt.


  68. gulfloafer
    68 | June 26, 2012 10:36 pm

    Ah hell. It’ll only be a matter of time now until selrahC has an LGF Event Registry up at his site.


  69. RIX
    69 | June 26, 2012 10:37 pm

    Good night all. Perhaps I’ll wake up tomorrow & feel
    bad about being so nasty about the Obamas.
    Nah, I’ll remind myself the he is causing generatioanl
    ruination for me & mine & all of us.


  70. citizen_q
    70 | June 26, 2012 10:40 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Don’t despair, even out of office we won’t be free of those grifters.
    I think that Clinton might hunt him down & kick
    his worthless butt.

    That would be amusing, but I expect antics ranging from sharptonesqe race hustling, to UN kleptocracy. He will make jimmy the dhimmi carter look like a patriot and a friend to Jews.

    Good night all!


  71. Alberta Oil Peon
    71 | June 26, 2012 10:48 pm

    Can I register my upcoming bowel movement? Not that I was expecting gifts….


  72. lobo91
    72 | June 27, 2012 12:25 am

    @ RIX:

    The Robinsons were not wealthy, but they
    were deciedly middle class.
    Her father had a good paying Civil Srvice job & very secure.
    He was also a Machine Precinct Captain.

    She’s apparently known one of Jesse Jackson’s daughters since high school, too. I don’t think she spent any time in the ‘hood.


  73. lobo91
    73 | June 27, 2012 12:27 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Rancher wrote:
    Can he pardon Holder if he hasn’t been convicted yet?
    Yes. Not sure he can do it if he is impeached first though…

    Impeachments are not, strictly speaking, criminal cases, so pardons don’t affect them (or vice versa).


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