If there is one positive aspect on Dar al Islam, it is that they turn on their own. In response to the downing of a Turkish plane, the Neo-Ottoman Muslim Brotherhood affiliated leader of Turkey, Erdogan, is now openly threatening Syria. The Turks have mobilized Troops on the Turkish border.
The Turkish military mobilized large numbers of reinforcements from its eastern provinces to the Syrian border on Tuesday, amid rising tension with Damascus, after the downing by Syria of a Turkish Air Force jet on Friday, Turkish media reported.
Large numbers of Turkish troops — including at least 15 long-range artillery pieces and tanks – moved to the Syrian frontier from the eastern city of Diyarbakir. A video published by the Turkish Cihan News Agency showed Turkish tanks being transported by carrier trucks toward the
The mobilization followed statements by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan that the Turkish military will respond to any future violation of its border by Syrian military elements.
“As awe-inspiring as Turkey’s friendship is, Turkey’s wrath is equally awe-inspiring,” Erdogan told the Turkish parliament on Tuesday.
“The rules of engagement of the Turkish Armed Forces have changed,” Erdogan said. “Any military element that approaches the Turkish border from Syria posing a security risk and danger will be regarded as a threat and treated as a military target.”
Erdogan closed his remarks with an especially harsh condemnation of Syrian President Bashar Assad: “Turkey and the Turkish people will continue to provide all support until the people of Syria have been saved from this tyrannical, murderous, bloody dictator and his gang.”
This is awesome. Get the popcorn and some fruit punch. I think we about to see some Jihadi vs. Jihadi action brewing! Clearly the Turks sent that F-4 to provoke Syria and have a pretext for a fight. This is typical Islamo-Fascist tactic. Personally I hope the Turks and Syrians kill each other!
Tags: AKP, Arab Spring, Bashar Assad, Popular Uprising, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Syrian War
While I normally like muzz on muzz action, this could spiral out of control very easily. Add to that the previous thread and it sounds like 1939 all over again.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4247823,00.html
@ MikeA:
Yeah it could, but lets hope it stays in the Syrian theater.
Here’s an interesting dynamic. Israel is enemies with both Assad and Turkey. Russia is allied with Syria, Cyprus and Israel now. The US is allied with Turkey and Israel. Add in the Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Hizballah and al-qaeda and boy, it gets confusing. You can have a 3-5 way fight in that region.
MikeA wrote:
Situations like this will happen when the leaders of the world, and particularly leaders in the middle east, see the U.S. leader as weak.
I like this quote from the article:
My gawd, the muzzies be full of themselves.
@ yenta-fada:
This is all wacky.
See my #3 and look at the webs here.
@ citizen_q:
Erdogan thinks he’s Sultan Mehmet II.
UN. No luxury hotels or restaurants. Actual danger. BYE BYE
http://www.timesofisrael.com/un-peacekeeping-chief-syria-too-dangerous-mission-wont-resume/
MikeA wrote:
Or July 1914…
The big question is what is the Bear planing??
citizen_q wrote:
Apes pounding their chests in the jungle. /
@ huckfunn:
The answer is to stay out of the Mideast and let them kill each other.
yenta-fada wrote:
You forgot to include children to molest or women to rape.
The UN is useless, despicable, corrupt, long past it’s due date.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
It’s very complicated. Russia is buddies with Assad, but they are also buddies with Cyprus and Israel over Turkish threats to the oilfields that Israel and Cyprus are developing with Russian help.
Israel is enemies with Assad and Turkey. The US is allied with Turkey and Israel.
It’s very complicated and not straight forward.
@ Rodan:
From the Stratfor article:
Russia’s Need for a U.S. Distraction
Russia has complex relationships in the region, particularly focused on Syria and Iran. Russia’s interest in both countries is understandable. Putin, who has said he regarded the breakup of the Soviet Union as a geopolitical catastrophe, views the United States as Russia’s prime adversary. His view is that the United States not only used the breakup to extend NATO into the former Soviet Union in the Baltics but also has tried to surround and contain Russia by supporting pro-democracy movements in the region and by using these movements to create pro-American governments. Putin sees himself as being in a duel with the United States throughout the former Soviet Union.
The Russians believe they are winning this struggle. Putin is not so much interested in dominating these countries as he is in being certain that the United States doesn’t dominate them. That gives Russia room to maneuver and allows it to establish economic and political relations that secure Russian interests. In addition, Russia has tremendously benefited from the U.S. wars in the Islamic world. It is not so much that these wars alienated Muslims, although that was beneficial. Rather, what helped the Russians most was that these wars absorbed American strategic bandwidth.
@ Rodan:
With the exception of Israel, I agree.
Fish swim, birds fly, koranimals murder.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
That was exactly what I thought. 1914 with nuclear armed beligerants. Not a good combination.
@ citizen_q:
If they are killing each other, Israel will be sitting pretty.
I would not want to mess with Turkey…they are gonna be a handful for whoever mixes it up with them…just part out Syria and sell it in chunks
Also from Stratfor:
There is a point where all this comes together. Turkey has decided, in response to the downing of its aircraft, to call a meeting of NATO. Turkey is not prepared to unilaterally intervene in Syria, but having lost an aircraft it could ask for a NATO intervention of some sort. Turkey has been hostile to al Assad from early on, and this gives it the opportunity to invoke the alliance under its common defense policy.
How NATO will respond is unknown, save that the rhetoric will be intense and the desire for combat restrained. Neither Russia nor Israel would be upset by a NATO intervention. From the Russian point of view, a NATO intervention involving large amounts of U.S. forces would be the best it could hope for, especially if NATO gets bogged down, as tends to happen in such interventions. From the Israeli point of view, having NATO take responsibility for Syria would be the best possible outcome by far.
@ yenta-fada:
Good analysis.
The Russians don’t like the Muzz and want the US weakened. The best thing is to have us duke it out with the Muzz. hence, what Is aid, stay out of the Mideast morass. These people turn on each other quick and if we get out of their way, they self destruct.
@ Dolphin:
Ok this is crazy. Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood are duking it out in Syria. Yet Muslim Brotherhood Egypt wants to ally with Iran? This is just confusing and nuts.
I think these people are deranged.
Rodan wrote:
Yessir! And if we make that our policy toward the ME that is the scenario that will play out all by itself. The hatred they have for Israel has only been around for 60 years and is entirely manufactured. The various Arab tribes have been hating on each other for centuries.
@ yenta-fada:
Hence Putin’s visit to Israel. It all adds up.
British forces in Syria say Assad compound under attack. OK, it’s debka, but it’s something.
http://www.debka.com/article/22133/British-forces-in-Syria-Assad-presidential-compound-said-under-attack
@ huckfunn:
Like you said yesterday, just watch Lowrance of Arabia. Now we need a strong US President so these tribes don’t get the idea leave their sandboxes!
So what yous aid and I said don’t contradict each other! They compliment each other!
An Obama excuse to change the subject from his worthless 3 and 1/2 years.
Rodan wrote:
without help, Syria could never stand up to Turkey….no way…
deals have to be negotiated, offers made, choose up the sides and all that, but Syria is a hapless mess right now
Rodan wrote:
Well, it’s a possible outcome, but, as you say; It’s complicated. The more things get messed up, the more possibilities for errors. Obama is a complete eff-up. He could make things worse with those micro-brain advisors he uses.
@ Rodan:
You got that right. There’s too many potential scenarios to consider. Will the Russians step in if Turkey starts woopin’ on Syria? What about Iran, since they already have forces inside Syria? Will the Palestinians ramp up their attacks on Israel?
May you live in interesting times….
taxfreekiller wrote:
Obama is a dangerous sociopath who doesn’t give a sh!t about consequences.
if Syria gets gets bogged down, that leaves Hezzs’ backside exposed next door….
woo hoo!
unleash the IFD…a twofer!
@ heysoos:
Not just the IDF. I have read the Kateb has been rearming. Israel can come in smash Hizballah and then the kateb finishes them off.
Rodan wrote:
Ummm… that’s why my #26 starts with “Yessir”. Is there something the matter with acoustics in here?
I see no reason for BO to be a player in this fight….it’s non of his business…maybe some logistical support…sat info, missiles, maybe air tankers
Rodan wrote:
plenty of fun for everybody eh?
@ Proud Infidel:
Yup, this is not a straight forward situation.
@ huckfunn:
Oh I know we were agreeing.
Now we have to get rid of the Sun King.
yenta-fada wrote:
If Baby Doc Baraq thinks getting involved will help him steal a second term, then he will jump in with both feet.
Baby Doc is going to need a lot of unrest and confusion to cover his theft of a second term. 
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
that would be an epic mistake….he can;t even finish off his Astan gig…not gonna happen
Rodan wrote:
Indeed!
On Bad Leadership:
Why we the people are so unsure of what this stuff will lead to in Syria/Iran/Iraq/Afganistain/ etal.
The current state of leadership in the U.S.A.
Just saw a post on http://www.sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com
that sums it up.
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=75750612017497033008postID=2357505991372454794
Under the thread Issa escalates Furious war…
Mossad must be frantic with target acquisition, crawling all over the country popping bad guys
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
War is the ultimate distraction. I would bet Ozero is ITCHING to get into the fight. Like the way he brings out any significant news on late Friday afternoon. It’s no accident that his advisors are propaganda specialists/aka public relations.
@ heysoos:
Baby Doc needs unrest and confusion, more is better. Victory would be counterproductive to his plans.
@ taxfreekiller:
I read Issas’ letter this morning…a serious right hook if you ask me…right, wrong or otherwise he spanked BO but good….something tells me Issa ain’t gonna hand off the ball anytime soon….I think BO is oblivious as to how much he is disliked…I still say he may go all fetal if the pressure on him is stout enough
@ yenta-fada:
I would not be shocked if Obama gave his buddy Erdogan the green light.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
doesn’t matter what he needs…he goes off on Syria, the entire donk party will abandon him
Rodan wrote:
of course…in his narcissistic mind, nobody can fart without his Universal Leadership Chairman oky doky…BO is an opportunistic idiot
heysoos wrote:
I expect O-bummer to go all hitler in the bunker, germany has failed me it deserves to be destroyed.
citizen_q wrote:
something like that…he has never lived in the real world, made tough decisions and has no diplomatic skills…pretty much an empty suit and it would not take much for events to rapidly consume his weakling admin….he might fold, but he may be smart enough to stay out of this one….assuming Turkey is not fighting Syria and both proxies, Iran and Russia, the will mop the floor with Assad…bet me
citizen_q wrote:
Götterdämmerung…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Victory for the United States is never in his plans,but a war under way in November might allow him to beat the “Don’t change horses in mid-stream”drums, and he may see that as his best shot at re-election. He’ll do it in a heartbeat if he gets the chance.
Iron Fist wrote:
so what’s the connection between involvement in Syria and re-election…I don’t see it bro
Rodan wrote:
Nor would I. The Won loves him some wars and drones. Dems ignore all of this.
yenta-fada wrote:
No doubt obama will make things worse. This is a flat out Muslim Brotherhood take-over just about everywhere in the middle east were there is conflict.
Iron Fist wrote:
I do believe that was the plan even before Ozero lost some of his mojo.
@ Lily:
{{Lily}} How goes it?
Turkey v. Syria (Erdogan v. Assad) -- let them kill each other.
Iron Fist wrote:
I’m willing to bet that he knows he can’t win an honest election this November. He needs a Reichstag fire to save his sorry regime…
yenta-fada wrote:
*Ding* *Ding* *Ding* …..excatly {yenta}!
Iron Fist wrote:
That is exactly what I am thinking here.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
LOL! I had to look that up!
Yes, I have always thought O-bummers twin goals were self-aggrandizement and the destruction of the US. With some enriching of some select quid pro quo allies. I almost said friends, but I don’t believe he has any. Not in the traditional sense.
@ yenta-fada:
Son is being trained on how to use the (contacts best word without going into big words)..tomorrow the actual contacts will be coming in from Boston. Today is rather easy day. Tomorrow will be busy with 3 doc appointments.
Obama will send drones to Syria and watch them all day.
Rodan wrote:
the problem with this theory is that we are not involved with Syria at this point, and to get involved as a device to get re-elected would be so phoney and contrived, he’d be ripped apart for it, blowback so severe he’d lose, not win re-election…I don’t get this reasoning
Lily wrote:
yaaaay!!!
@ heysoos:
Reichstag Fire. A war with Syria strengthens him, especially if it is close to the election. Americans rally around the President at the start of a war. Even Bush benefited from this at first. It took years of a steady drumbeat in the media to turn Iraq toxic. Obama doesn’t care about that. All he needs is for the war to push him ovr the finish line. He doesn’t want to win the war, just the election.
@ heysoos:
So far the proto-types they put in his eyes yesterday made a huge improvement.
We see the surgeon tomorrow ..don’t know what is going to happen there.
Supposedly a trained terrorist is awaiting orders to attack the Olympics in Britian. Hmmmmm.
/just heard on the news.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Exactly. It may not work. He may not get a war started, and he, may still lose even if he does, but I think he’ll roll the dice on it.
@ Iron Fist:
Yup LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 is the perfect example.
Putin *surprise* sucks and blows at the same time on ‘peace process’.
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.ca/2012/06/hows-that-re-set-barack-putin-praises.html
@ Lily:
Big steps for your son!!
He watched the live feed from Az gun shops and parking lots hand off by the Zeta’s buying the guns the ATF walked to Mexico.
He is a silly unloved skinny kid with way to much power and way to small a brain.@ Guggi:
Lily wrote:
good stuff is going to happen…he will beat this thing
British journalist raped in Egypt during election celebrations.
She goes on to recount in detail the experience. Good thing she’s alive and in one piece. But jeez, who doesn’t someone tell these women reporters that rape is the national pastime in Islamoville.
The “wire tap” info, includes the live feed vid info on/from cameras set up inside the Az gun shops as well as cameras on power poles in the parking lots. The tech info in the White House and logs and such will prove up Obama, the FBI bos, ATF boss and some NSC guys as well as Holder where in the rooms where the live feed were, “watching” the gun buys and the hand offs to the mules who carried the guns into Mexico that took place in the parking lots.
Iron Fist wrote:
I don’t…but he might
this mess has a ways to go yet
@ Urban Infidel:
Telling the Truth is ‘Hate Speech’ in PC-ville…
@ Urban Infidel:
They are muslims, comparing them to animals is an injustice to animals.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
exactomundo. If it’s not on the front page, it didn’t happen.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
@ citizen_q:
She goes on:
JOOOOOS!
yoo hoo!
any moderate Muslims out there want to speak out?
heysoos wrote:
We’re talking about a Worst-case scenario here. It’s only a ‘what if’ for now.
Rodan wrote:
How long have I been telling you that?
Turkey s going to start a war with Syria. NATO will decline to get involved “Officially” Russia will unofficially support Syria. Think Vietnam redux.
@ doriangrey:
I never said otherwise.
BTW, On Drudge they had the Hillary-Morsi connection.
@ doriangrey:
Gulf of Tonkin incident 1964 all over again.
The FBI is saying that there are as many as 100 Islamists
embedded in our military.
If they know the number, shouldn’t they know who they are?
@ Urban Infidel:
Unfortunately it is Egypt and it is Islam. there is no moderate Islam because there is only one Koran.
@ Urban Infidel:
She is a liar. A disgusting liar. An attention whore.
@ Speranza:
In Islam the Koran is not fife with allegories and
metaphors, it is the “literal” word of God.
In this case the word is vile.
@ Speranza:
Especially considering under sharia she’d need four male MUSLIM witnesses to prove it was rape (and then be punished for turning said man on with her ZIONIST HAIR RAYS!)
@ Guggi:
Why do you say that? You don’t think she was raped?
Kafir wrote:
Did not Natasha Smith know about that CBS reporter (a blonde Australian woman named Lara Logan) who was sexually mauled last year in Tahrir Square?
Guggi wrote:
What?
RIX wrote:
It is also worth noting that of the Egyptian-Americans that live here who have dual citizenship voted overwhelmingly for the Muslim Brotherhood in the presidential election.
Kafir wrote:
Yup, she was neither raped nor attacked. This is a dime novel story.
I’ve worked for years with raped and abused women but this is bullsh*t.
Can you imagine you’re naked in front of some hundreds of men who stare at you, finger you in all your holes and you yell: “goodbye cruel world! Down I go!”
Unbelievable sh*t.
yenta-fada wrote:
Just got back from another session trying to catch up on the thread.
He is doing good. He is tried of being stuck in the Suite. Tonight we go to my best friends house for dinner. She lives here in Houston.
Guggi wrote:
She didn’t yell that. Read the story.
@ Lily:
Not sure about the condition, got a gist from some of the posts, and don’t want to pry. I do want to wish the best of luck to your son and you.
@ Urban Infidel:
It is also worth noting that of the Egyptian-Americans that live here who have dual citizenship voted overwhelmingly for the Muslim Brotherhood in the presidential election.
I can’t say that I am surprised.
I usd to work near Federal Plaza in downtown Chicago.
It was common to see Achmed, Fatima & baby Mohammad
in a stroller.
They must have been there for immigration issues and to
get more free stuff.
The Muslim guys would like to stare at you.
I found that the best thing to do was to stop &
glare back. That would break thir stare,
Juvinile? Maybe.
@ Urban Infidel:
Just a note: I don’t buy that story either on many counts
It was written to be writing
RIX wrote:
I don’t know. I am of the school that says a good way to avoid attack from a predator is to not act like prey.
Both sides are chanting The Muslim National Anthem™:
الجميع يمارس الجنس مع بعقب!
بعقب! بعقب! بعقب اللعنة!
waldensianspirit wrote:
What counts?
RIX wrote:
if the FBI says a hundred, the more true number would be in the thousands…they walk across the border whenever they want…the govt will not tell you the truth, why should they?
@ citizen_q:
Thank you….not prying..he is getting a prosthetic Replacement of Occular Surface …which means he is getting contacts that cover the whole surface of his eye…he can’t close his eye-lids or blink from a rare disease. His eyes are so dry and he will go blind if something isn’t done to keep them moistened.
So far this looks like it is going to work and stop the damage being done to his eyes and crossing fingers maybe reverse some damage but that isn’t a 100% ….but there is a small chance it will reverse some of the damage. Keeping fingers crossed.
Urban Infidel wrote:
You don’t even think it. This is pure dime novel melodrama:
After all this and her allegedly adventures in different hospitals she sits down, writes a blogpost in the style of a dime novel and is apparently bright-eyed and bushy-tailed.
This story is a fake from the first to the last word. Period.
@ citizen_q:
That is an excellent policy. I was not willing to be
dissed by some Muslim, just becaus I am walking from
the train to my office.
lol from WZ. Donate to dinner w/ Barry, but DO NOT use the mini-bar if you win.
http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/3729
@ Urban Infidel:
Paragraph after paragraph. And the rest of blog. Many things including reference to religion and then her superior explaining it a way. No account to go with it. No date and time. No evidence. And the writing is about writing.
just one sentence but there re many “Yesterday, I had a proper examination and darted around sorting things out, spending an eternity giving a police report.”
huh?
Russia’s masterstroke: bailing out Cyprus.
yenta-fada wrote:
LOL! Oh wait I thought he was going to have just oodles of money for this campagin! Nope…no matter how many celebraties donate to him..the average American and the big donars are just not shelling out the money for the ‘one’. Reeks of desperation to me. But I’m not going to say this election will be a shoe-in for Romney. Don’t want to jix it.
@ Urban Infidel:
Of course another aspects that biases me is her crowd is all protective of islam but the fault is “patriarchial”, “patriarchial”, “patriarchial”
huh?
The latest scandal is that Romney was speaking at
a lucheon for a professional Hispanic organization.
The attedees were forced to surrender their knives
and forks before Romney spoke.
He mad Hispanics do that? WTF?
Oh wait, it was the Secret Service for OBAMA!
Move along.
@ Guggi:
Journalists often think they are Hemmingnway. I just googled her and it’s been picked up in a lot of places. If it’s a lie, we’ll know soon enough.
@ Lily:
Chuck Norris once counted to infinity, twice.
Chuck Norris was once a lumberjack in the Sahara Forest.
The Sahara is a dessert! Now.
@ The Osprey:
That’s why Putin was in Israel. Russia is allied with Cyprus, whose allied with Israel. Russia told Turkey to back off the Israeli-Cypriot fields.
This is getting more complex.
@ heysoos:
They also fly in and overstay visas. Look whose driving the cabs in NY and other major cities.
New Thread.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Oh c’mmon, she isn’t important enough that anyone would care if this story is true or not. She has an agenda and she is an attention whore.
RIX wrote:
Rodan wrote:
WOW! Okay if he addresses our troops and they are in theater their guns are removed…now he is taking away forks and knives from people at a fund-raiser before he speaks…What? Good grief. Well at least no one is fainting over him…geez.
RIX wrote:
Real victims of rape or sexual assaults become noncredible because of such liars. This drives me crazy.
@Guggi
@Waldensianspirit
So I guess Lara Logan made up her story as well.
Natasha Smith sounds sympathetic to Egypt in general, why would she therefore make up a story that shows them in an awful light?
@ Speranza:
Why the assumption?
waldensianspirit wrote:
Why do you assume she made that horrific story up? Being finger fucked by a bunch of filthy Muslim swine is nothing to brag about.
@ Speranza:
I don’t assume. I’m analysing her writing
Where is the news account to go with this? Why is she the first to write about it? And paragraph after paragraph doesn’t copy
waldensianspirit wrote:
No, you are disregarding her writing because you find her writing style unbelievable. I don’t know if she’s telling the truth or not. But I do know that women in general react to incidents such as she describes in different ways, not in any specific monolithic fashion.
Furthermore I do know that what she is describing is not an unusual or unbelievable events. Natasha Smith’s account bares a considerable resemblance to that of Laura Logan’s with the exception of the amount of time that it took Natasha to come forward. Mona Eltahawy on the other hand did not take any more time to report her incident than Natasha, showing as I said earlier, that women’s responses to such incidents are not monolithic, but unique to the individual.
Oh, and the phrase isn’t paragraph after paragraph don’t copy, it’s paragraph after paragraph don’t track.
doriangrey wrote:
Wrong again dorian. But you should be used to that occurance
waldensianspirit wrote:
Prove it then big shot. Show a concise analysis that displays an obvious pattern of prevarication or distortion of the facts. Rather than attacking me with ad hominems for disagreeing with you.
@ doriangrey:
You prove that it is the most authentic piece of [uncorroborated] writing you’ve ever read. You didn’t address it before telling me my thought processes.
/btw it doesn’t match the other cases if you take the time to compare
waldensianspirit wrote:
EPIC FAIL. I’m not the one challenging its veracity while maintaining my challenge is based on an analysis of the content of her writing. Oh, and I did take the time to compare, which even a forth grade imbecile should have been able to deduce based purely on the fact that I named two of the other victims.
@ doriangrey:
You named their names. Fascinating
waldensianspirit wrote:
Yes, I did, a clear and obvious indication that I have read the accounts given by the other two prominent journalist who have made assertions to having been abused in a similar manner.
You on the other hand made the assertion that you had performed an analysis of the content of her article, and fond glaring discrepancies that led you to doubt the veracity of her account. None of which said discrepancies have you quoted or shown any justifiable reason to assert are discrepancies.
Whereas I admitted right up front that I didn’t know if she was telling the truth or not. What I do know from reading the other two victims accounts is that all three stories have consistent and parallel themes.
Accusations of being foreign spies, information gathers, escalations of physical hostilities, culminating in aggressive unwanted sexual advances and violence. All three accounts report a total disrespect of the victims by authorities and medical personal. Both Natasha and Laura make the assertion that it was the women who added in their escape while Mona indicates that nearly 83 percent of Egyptian women report enduring similar or worse experiences at one time or another.
Now where is this brilliant and detailed contextual analysis of yours that provides you the moral authority to unilaterally declare Natasha Smith a liar.
@ heysoos:
Because his campaign has been so smart to date? Yesterday he gave then Arizona. His war on coal will lose him Ohio. He’s now druming the anti-fracking beat, there goes Pennsylvania. Executive privelege shines the spotlight on a story that so far has been ignored. Yeah, I can see him “having to live up to our NATO obligations” and support the MB and his buddy Erdogan. I think he wants to do it and the left will give him another pass. He attacked Libya for oil fer crying out loud!
@ doriangrey:
Dorian, try and not. I’ve seen you do this many times before. Your density increases
Start at the top of her article. She has two male protectors/companions. A paragraph later she is pulled away from her friend. Never a word about the other the rest of the blog entry. The one is eventually named.
This is but one. I did mention another above where the next day she was darting about while waiting to fill police reports.
The bit about things changing in a split second after being groped for a while.
Women crying and telling her this is not Egypt! Doesn’t track with the women who saved Laura
Her side explanations of why she doesn’t believe but that it is natural to want to feel loved.
Did trauma make her write this way? Why no news story? Maybe in 48 hours but nothing is out there except huffpo picking up the blog
waldensianspirit wrote:
You have got to be joking, this is your brilliant and detailed contextual analysis? Now I have to apologize to the imbecilic fourth grader, his analysis would have at least been rational.
Yes, at the top of the post, she a foreigner is with two male companions. One she names by his first names as a friend, the other she does not name, the obvious inference is, that he is a local guide.
Which means exactly what? Have you ever tried to fill out a police report in a foreign country where the police were hostile or uninterested in what you are trying to report?
I’m assuming by this utter stupidity that you have never been in a dense crowd before. Ever been to Mardi Gras? Ya, everybody gets pawed and groped.
And you know this how? While Laura doesn’t say it in her account of what happened (in fact she says virtually nothing about the women who rescued her) it is noted that that is exactly the sentiment expressed by many Egyptians both men and women who commented on Laura’s facebook page.
This is speculation regarding writing style.
Maybe because Natasha Smith is a small time journalist not associated with a major world-wide media organization?
Well, Huff and Puff and the GlobalPost. Exactly how many major media news stories about local native Egyptian women suffering similar or even identical assaults have you read about?
Dorian have a beer. It’ll make you feel better
Turkey’s military mobilization puts Greece and the Balkans in play. The EU is too weak-willed to stop them from taking back Greece and the Balkans, their conquests of old, and taking the remainder of Cyprus.
I’ve asked Natasha on her blog for the name of “the lady from the embassy”, the name of the police station where she filed the report and the name of the officer. I asked her if she had reported the secual assault to any journalist/reporter organisation and if her story there was fact checked and if not, why not. I told her, that I don’t believe her story.
Another poster called “Irene” agreed with me. Within an hour our (mine and Irene’s) postings disappeared and only my answer to Irene was still there
Let me get the time line clear:
Natasha wrote the story in her mother tongue weeks ago, then the story was translated into Arabic and posted at an Arabic website.
Natahsha waited for weeks to post her already written story on her own blog without giving a proper datum when the allegedly sexual assault happened.
Asked for proof of the incident she deletes the postings with the specific questions.
I just posted this on Natasha’s blog:
CNN article mentions a doctor, Mohammed Meligi of a still unnamed hospital