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ESPN Sports writer’s CNN Op-Ed on Fast and Furious; It’s none of our business

by Rodan ( 147 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Cult of Obama, Progressives at June 27th, 2012 - 11:30 am

No, Keith Olbermann did not write the article I am linking. Some ESPN Sportswriter named LZ Granderson who doubles as a CNN political commentator wrote an opinion piece on Fast and Furious. Granderson claims that we should not look into the Fast and Furious scandal. He claims that its none of the American public’s business. That’s right, the fact that your tax dollars went to arm Mexican Cartels is none your business! The Sportswriter’s excuse is that it is a government secret and we don’t have a right to know.

We are a nosy country.

Though to be fair, it’s not entirely our fault. Between the 24/7 news cycle, social media and reality TV, we have been spoon fed other people’s private business for so long we now assume it’s a given to know everything. And if there are people who choose not to disclose, they must be hiding something. Being told that something’s “none of your business” is slowly being characterized as rude, and if such a statement is coming from the government, it seems incriminating.

Times have changed. Yet, not everything is our business. And in the political arena, there are things that should be and need to be kept quiet.

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Heads should roll because of the Fast and Furious debacle. We don’t need every detail of that operation to be made public in order for that to happen.

f it were an isolated sting, maybe. But it is at least the third incarnation of a gun-running scheme stretching across two administrations, which means we could be pressing to open Pandora’s Box. We do not want to open Pandora’s Box, not about this and certainly not about a bunch of other potentially scandalous things the federal government has been involved with.

Fast and Furious? Please.

We still don’t have access to all of the messy facts surrounding the Iran-Contra scandal that erupted during the Reagan administration. All we know is that weapons were sold to Iran in exchange for hostages and that the proceeds from those sales were used to illegally fund rebels in Nicaragua who were supposedly fighting Communism.

Lt. Col. Oliver North took one for the team back then, and there’s a good chance Attorney General Eric Holder will have to take one for the team in the Fast and Furious controversy. And by team, I’m not referring to Republicans or Democrats, but rather Americans.

You see, freedom isn’t entirely free.

It also isn’t squeaky clean.

Mr. Granderson needs to stick to sports. Like Charles Johnson, he’s very ignorant about politics. He also doesn’t want to question our divine Pharaoh/Sun King/Caligula. Granderson is entertaining when it comes to sports analysis at ESPN, but Fast and Furious is a life and death operation.

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147 Responses to “ESPN Sports writer’s CNN Op-Ed on Fast and Furious; It’s none of our business”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | June 27, 2012 11:31 am

    Since when should we give a shit about the political opinions of jock sniffing sports writers (such as the diminutive Mike Lupica) or entertainment writers?


  2. lobo91
    2 | June 27, 2012 11:37 am

    there’s a good chance Attorney General Eric Holder will have to take one for the team in the Fast and Furious controversy.

    As Nancy Pelosi would say, “Seriously? Are you serious?”


  3. 3 | June 27, 2012 11:37 am

    Mr. Grander son you ain’t fooling’ nobody. If this was John Ashcroft in front of Nancy Pelosi, you’d be screeching like a banshee for her to get to the bottom of it.

    Nice to see you following the Keith Olberman path to success. And I hope you’re in the advanced placement division so that you descent into oblivion is on an accelerated basis


  4. RIX
    4 | June 27, 2012 11:43 am

    We still don’t have access to all of the messy facts surrounding the Iran-Contra scandal that erupted during the Reagan administration. All we know is that weapons were sold to Iran in exchange for hostages and that the proceeds from those sales were used to illegally fund rebels in Nicaragua who were supposedly fighting Communism.

    “Supposedly fighting Communism”? The Sananistas were a peaceful
    social/athletic club?
    This guy is either uninformed, profoundly stupid or just a
    race pimp.
    My vote is all three,


  5. 5 | June 27, 2012 11:45 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I don’t get people like Granderson, Olbermann and Mike Lupica. They are good at discussing sports, why they bother with politics. They really come across stupid and pisses off 1/2 their audience.


  6. RIX
    6 | June 27, 2012 11:46 am

    @ lobo91:

    As Nancy Pelosi would say, “Seriously? Are you serious?”

    Pelosi also said that Obama Care will be upheld in total,
    “Because I know the Constitution”
    Really, could you give us an indepth analysis of the Commerce
    Clause?


  7. 7 | June 27, 2012 11:46 am

    @ RIX:

    I would he’s a stupid SPorts jock. He should stick to what he knows.


  8. 8 | June 27, 2012 11:47 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Since when should we give a shit about the political opinions of jock sniffing sports writers (such as the diminutive Mike Lupica) or entertainment writers?

    Mike Lupica really needs shut up on politics. He has no clue what he’s talking about.


  9. lobo91
    9 | June 27, 2012 11:49 am

    @ RIX:

    Really, could you give us an indepth analysis of the Commerce Clause?

    That’s easy: “It’s the part that let’s us do whatever we want.”


  10. RIX
    10 | June 27, 2012 11:50 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I would he’s a stupid SPorts jock. He should stick to what he knows.

    Which is really not much of anything.
    I’ve heard his sports commentary, not so good.


  11. Formercorpsman
    11 | June 27, 2012 11:50 am

    This is a measured response. Save for a few real journalists in the MSM, the industry itself is too far in bed with the left of this country.

    I have no doubts whatsoever, this piece is a coordinated response let out there shape an opinion to those tuned into sports, who otherwise would not have much knowledge of this situation, therefore any real opinion of it to begin with.


  12. Formercorpsman
    12 | June 27, 2012 11:51 am

    Dman, I must be dislexic.


  13. huckfunn
    13 | June 27, 2012 11:54 am

    CNN suffers lowest ratings in 21 years. That shouldn’t come as a surprise when they have a dumb jock columnist who writes political drivel like this.


  14. 14 | June 27, 2012 11:55 am

    @ Formercorpsman:

    This guy is not bad on ESPN. But he doesn’t know jack about politics. He’s really stupid on teh Charles Johnson level.


  15. Speranza
    15 | June 27, 2012 11:55 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Since when should we give a shit about the political opinions of jock sniffing sports writers (such as the diminutive Mike Lupica) or entertainment writers?

    Mike Lupica really needs shut up on politics. He has no clue what he’s talking about.

    He (Lupica) is a little guy from Long Island who went to college in Massachusetts -- shocking that he is a leftist. Recall Selena Roberts of The New York Times (now at ESPN) and her execrable columns on the false Duke LaCrosse rape case.


  16. Guggi
    16 | June 27, 2012 11:55 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    CNN suffers lowest ratings in 21 years.

    faster please… :-)


  17. 17 | June 27, 2012 11:56 am

    @ huckfunn:

    This guy has nothing on Mike Lupica. He’s a NY area sports writer that makes this guy and Olbermann look like a genious.


  18. 18 | June 27, 2012 11:57 am

    @ Speranza:

    These people need to stick to sports. I’m serious. Just like Corpulent Creep needs to stick to Jazz Music.


  19. 19 | June 27, 2012 11:57 am

    @ huckfunn:

    See Speranza’s #15.


  20. Formercorpsman
    20 | June 27, 2012 11:58 am

    @ Rodan:

    I freely admit, I did not listen to his screed because I am listening to Keith Urban right now.

    I’ve seen him on ESPN, and did not give him much thought there, but I actually thought I remember him doing some other piece related to politics before and realize he is just another knucklehead carrying water.

    I really do think some of this stuff is leaked out to an otherwise disconnected crowd. I would assume this is nothing but talking points, packaged differently to another crowd.


  21. Speranza
    21 | June 27, 2012 12:00 pm

    @ Guggi:
    OT- I saw your comments on Natasha Smith’s blog (on the sexual assault incident -- the one you claim with certitude was fabricated -- in Cairo) -- I really wish you did not write them.


  22. RIX
    22 | June 27, 2012 12:01 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That’s easy: “It’s the part that let’s us do whatever we want.”

    Pelosi is so lucky that Sheila Jackson Lee is around.
    That way it is a jump ball for most stupid woman in
    North America.


  23. Speranza
    23 | June 27, 2012 12:02 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Pelosi is so lucky that Sheila Jackson Lee is around.
    That way it is a jump ball for most stupid woman in
    North America.

    Sen. Patty Murray of Washington (Democrat) wants in on that title.


  24. 24 | June 27, 2012 12:02 pm

    @ Formercorpsman:

    he’s just a propagandist. Since the uninformed see him on ESPN, they assume he knows what he’s talking about.


  25. citizen_q
    25 | June 27, 2012 12:02 pm

    And by team, I’m not referring to Republicans or Democrats, but rather Americans.

    That is an interesting sentiment to express for an admin hell bent on dividing us all up into neat little identity groups. We are not Americans any more under this admin. This is demonstrably so given the open borders, selective enforcement of laws, and the circumvention of the separation of powers to pursue its ideological agenda. In addition to the divisive pandering and transformation of many into preferred victim groups such as Hispanics, Blacks, or even the poor.

    In this admin’s eyes we are not Americans but victim groups to be harvested for taxes and votes, to be fed scrapes from the elites table unable to fend for ourselves but for their largess, and leveraged against each other to diminish and extinguish collective strength as simply Americans so they can cling to power and privilege.

    OTOH, both holder and obama are narcissistic sociopaths. Self-sacrifice for the greater good, that might not include them is simply not in their makeup.

    Sad, but showing their desperation they are falling back on the race card again for the umpteenth time. If this be racism, I would like the guy who chastised us all for being cowards on the issue of race to stop hiding behind it’s skirts when the going gets a little tough. Doing so, especially without a shred of any evidence, reveals holder to be the coward.

    The cock and bull story that now being peddled that investigation into Fast and Furious is a GOP plot to deny voting rights to blacks is a laughable tin-foil hat conspiracy theory that shows the true colors of the kooks in charge of the demoncrap party.


  26. huckfunn
    26 | June 27, 2012 12:05 pm

    @ Guggi:
    @ Rodan:
    Other than watching the halftime shows (football, basketball) I don’t follow the sports columnists. I get a kick out of Chris Berman and Kenny the Jet, but those guys have enough sense to stay on topic. Barkely can be pretty entertaining when he’s not drunk and as long as he stays away from politics.


  27. Formercorpsman
    27 | June 27, 2012 12:05 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Exactly.


  28. Guggi
    28 | June 27, 2012 12:07 pm

    @ Speranza:

    She is a liar. Period.


  29. 29 | June 27, 2012 12:07 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Barkley used to be a Republican. Now he worships at the alter of Caligula (Obama). He really has become ignorant on politics.


  30. Speranza
    30 | June 27, 2012 12:08 pm

    Other obnoxious liberal sports writers/broadcasters -- Dan Patrick, Harvey Aaraton, Bob Ryan, Michael Wilbon, Jim Rome, John Feinstein, Bob Costas.


  31. Speranza
    31 | June 27, 2012 12:10 pm

    @ Rodan:
    His (Charles Barkley) alleged “Republicanism” I suspect was never really sincere. “Hey, here I am a black man who was an NBA superstar and I am a Republican”. Lynn Swann actually is a Republican.


  32. 32 | June 27, 2012 12:10 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    In addition to the divisive pandering and transformation of many into preferred victim groups such as Hispanics, Blacks, or even the poor.

    The Republicans pander to the White Working Class and Social Conservatives. So how is that any different? Both parties do it.


  33. Speranza
    33 | June 27, 2012 12:10 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    She is a liar. Period.

    You never proved that. Period.


  34. 34 | June 27, 2012 12:11 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I can’t stand Costas.


  35. huckfunn
    35 | June 27, 2012 12:11 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Skip Bayless is a real turd also and I don’t even know what his political persuasion is.


  36. 36 | June 27, 2012 12:13 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    If a person is a asshole sports commentator, odds are they will be a asshole political commentator.


  37. Alberta Oil Peon
    37 | June 27, 2012 12:15 pm

    @ Formercorpsman:
    Sounds right to me. You will probably hear similar “editorializing” from lefties in the entertainment and music fields in the weeks to come, too.


  38. Speranza
    38 | June 27, 2012 12:15 pm

    Do As I Say, Not As I Do: A Look at Liberal ESPN’s Coverage of the Ozzie Guillen Incident

    The most glaring example of this of course is the gushing relationship between President Obama and ESPN. As I discussed in my earlier article Obama’s NCAA Tournament Bracket: The Method Behind The President’s March Madness our president loves sports and the only thing he loves more than sports is reminding us over and over again that he loves sports. Thus, the slickly produced, left-leaning ESPN has served as the perfect platform for Captain O when he wants to reach out to the average working Joe. Likewise, ESPN -which is almost entirely responsible for the monster that is now modern sports-celebrity culture in this country- has been more than happy to have America’s golf playing, b-ball shooting celebrity president as its newest best buddy.


  39. huckfunn
    39 | June 27, 2012 12:15 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Makes sense to me.


  40. Speranza
    40 | June 27, 2012 12:17 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Skip Bayless is a real turd also and I don’t even know what his political persuasion is.

    Yes he is -- he is an obnoxious asshole. In fact the whole crew of that imbecilic “Around The Horn” show are a bunch of jerks.


  41. Speranza
    41 | June 27, 2012 12:17 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I can’t stand Costas.

    I cannot stand his toupee. Also a 58 year old man who walks around with a Mickey mantle baseball card in his wallet needs to address his Peter Pan complex.


  42. huckfunn
    42 | June 27, 2012 12:19 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Yes he is – he is an obnoxious asshole. In fact the whole crew of that imbecilic “Around The Horn” show are a bunch of jerks.

    Back in the day when I used to subscribe to a newspaper, I read his column until he totally pissed me off.


  43. Bumr50
    43 | June 27, 2012 12:20 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ Speranza:

    It’s pretty heavy Progressive in that circle.

    I’m not sure why.

    I guess journalists will be journalists.

    I HAVE noticed that most of the non-jockocracy hires (the real “journalists”) are all just waiting to get their two cents in to worship the Pharaoh, embrace asinine socialist policy, or just spout off as to how bad Republicans are for the world, while the jocks tend to be a bit more pragmatic, even *gasp* capitalist on some issues.

    I do know that most of them are highly compensated Union members, but that doesn’t explain the brainwashing.

    Peter King of SI and NBC is another closet communist that has no idea what he’s talking about when he wades into politics.


  44. Alberta Oil Peon
    44 | June 27, 2012 12:24 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Please, not to be confused with Round the Horne, which was actually funny. I used to hear episodes of Round The Horne on radio here in Canada. Canned ones, years after the fact.


  45. Speranza
    45 | June 27, 2012 12:24 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Back in the day when I used to subscribe to a newspaper, I read his column until he totally pissed me off.

    He (Skip Bayless) was really obnoxious to Cris Carter on ESPN once, asking him how many Super Bowls he won or went to. Big effin deal, Dan Marino never won a championship.
    In the NYC area, Mike Francesa (of WFAN) also is a know-it-all jackass who on 9/12/01 actually blamed America’s support for Israel and demanded that American Jews take loyalty tests (but not American Muslims) for the terror attack. Conveniently Sportsradio WFAN took the show out of its archives.

    Almost a Decade Ago WFAN’s Mike Francesa and Chris Russo Blamed 9/11 on The Jews


  46. lobo91
    46 | June 27, 2012 12:25 pm

    Here’s an interview segment with Wayne Lapierre on Lou Dobbs’ show, talking about Fast & Furious.

    I haven’t seen it, because I’ve spent the past hour watching the little spinny thing go around in circles.

    //Damn stupid Kuwaiti camel-powered internet…


  47. Lily
    47 | June 27, 2012 12:25 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    CNN suffers lowest ratings in 21 years. That shouldn’t come as a surprise when they have a dumb jock columnist who writes political drivel like this.

    I saw last night that all of MSM is at it’s lowest levels of people believing what they are trying to shovel down our throats. They are so open with it that it is disgusting to be honest. They really aren’t even trying to hide their bias.
    If I remember correctly only 21% have confidence in the MSM.. let me find the link..

    Gallup Poll Finds Americans’ Confidence In MSM TV News At All-Time Low, 21%…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/26/gallup-poll-finds-americans-confidence-in-msm-tv-news-at-all-time-low-21/


  48. Speranza
    48 | June 27, 2012 12:29 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    Entertainment critics (TV, theater, art, music, film) are even worse.


  49. huckfunn
    49 | June 27, 2012 12:32 pm

    Lily wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    CNN suffers lowest ratings in 21 years. That shouldn’t come as a surprise when they have a dumb jock columnist who writes political drivel like this.

    I saw last night that all of MSM is at it’s lowest levels of people believing what they are trying to shovel down our throats. They are so open with it that it is disgusting to be honest. They really aren’t even trying to hide their bias.
    If I remember correctly only 21% have confidence in the MSM.. let me find the link..

    Gallup Poll Finds Americans’ Confidence In MSM TV News At All-Time Low, 21%…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/26/gallup-poll-finds-americans-confidence-in-msm-tv-news-at-all-time-low-21/

    I’ve put this up a couple of times but it fits this thread. It’s eloquent (and hilarious) in its brevity.


  50. waldensianspirit
    50 | June 27, 2012 12:32 pm

    The Sandusky prosecutors tainted solid evidence with Costas’ edited interview now opening the door for appeal. Why people don’t learn to stay away from main stream media editings is beyond me


  51. lobo91
    51 | June 27, 2012 12:32 pm

    Heads should roll because of the Fast and Furious debacle.

    I wonder if this genius is aware of the fact that so far, the only people who have been punished have been the whistleblowers who went public with the story?

    Everyone who had a supervisory role in this mess has been promoted.


  52. waldensianspirit
    52 | June 27, 2012 12:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I haven’t seen it, because I’ve spent the past hour watching the little spinny thing go around in circles.

    Look away! Look away!


  53. lobo91
    53 | June 27, 2012 12:33 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Entertainment critics (TV, theater, art, music, film) are even worse.

    Frank Rich comes to mind.


  54. Lily
    54 | June 27, 2012 12:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Formercorpsman:

    he’s just a propagandist. Since the uninformed see him on ESPN, they assume he knows what he’s talking about.

    Well actually if the uninformed (anyone who hasn’t heard about it) did see this…it very well could be a back-lash. Because first they will go WTH? Then they may get on the internet to see what he is talking about …. and learn this Fast and Furious thing is a big deal. Which will result in them being informed on something that the media has been trying to bury since day 1 this broke out. A lot of people when told there is nothing to see here…will go what really? Let me check this out.
    /yeah this could happen. It did with me with the pure bias reporting on the Lebanon/Israel war…what they were reporting on the news then in 2006 didn’t sound right and I went on the net to see WHY and what is really happening.


  55. pat
    55 | June 27, 2012 12:36 pm

    I wonder if he is aware that Obama’s reputation as being an athlete is entirely self-manufactured. Or is that also no ones business?


  56. lobo91
    56 | June 27, 2012 12:38 pm

    pat wrote:

    I wonder if he is aware that Obama’s reputation as being an athlete is entirely self-manufactured. Or is that also no ones business?

    Well, at least he’s consistent.

    Everything else about him is self-manufactured, too.


  57. huckfunn
    57 | June 27, 2012 12:40 pm

    Rush is talking about Granderson right now. I’m thinking he follows the Blogmacracy closely,


  58. Speranza
    58 | June 27, 2012 12:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Entertainment critics (TV, theater, art, music, film) are even worse.

    Frank Rich comes to mind.

    I was obliquely referring to him.


  59. 59 | June 27, 2012 12:43 pm

    [Shakes Head in Disbelief]


  60. Da_Beerfreak
    60 | June 27, 2012 12:49 pm

    Formercorpsman wrote:

    This is a measured response. Save for a few real journalists in the MSM, the industry itself is too far in bed with the left of this country.

    I have no doubts whatsoever, this piece is a coordinated response let out there shape an opinion to those tuned into sports, who otherwise would not have much knowledge of this situation, therefore any real opinion of it to begin with.

    I think you just hit the nail square on the head.
    If you take him by himself he’s just another Mushroom regurgitating the same old lame stream media crap. Talking smart and sounding stupid. But, if you look at him as being just one player in a larger propaganda operation to misinform as many sports fans as possible then you can start to see the greater evil at work. The main job of today’s lame stream media is to keep as many misinformed Mushrooms in the dark and voting for the D’Rats without questions. :evil:

    p.s. A few typos add a personal touch to the forum. :mrgreen:


  61. 61 | June 27, 2012 12:51 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    @ Speranza:

    Most of these sports experts are just spewing crap. They get paid to speak their opinions and many of them never played a sport in their life.

    I will not lie, I would love a paid gig like that!


  62. 62 | June 27, 2012 12:51 pm

    @ Rodan:

    The Republicans pander to the White Working Class and Social Conservatives. So how is that any different? Both parties do it.

    “Social conservative” IS a political persuasion, not an ethnicity or racial category. There are white, black, pink and purple social conservatives. Dems pander to liberals. *shrug*

    Apples and oranges.

    But how do they pander to the white working class? I thought republicans only pandered to bankers and the like.


  63. 63 | June 27, 2012 12:52 pm

    @ Speranza:

    In the NYC area, Mike Francesa (of WFAN) also is a know-it-all jackass who on 9/12/01 actually blamed America’s support for Israel and demanded that American Jews take loyalty tests (but not American Muslims) for the terror attack. Conveniently Sportsradio WFAN took the show out of its archives.

    I remember that. He’s really an asshole. He also mocked Baseball Players with accents. He’s a first class scumbag.


  64. Lily
    64 | June 27, 2012 12:53 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Good one {huck}! ;)
    /darn it and still showing off your skillz on embedding pics!!! :P


  65. lobo91
    65 | June 27, 2012 12:53 pm

    @ Kafir:

    I thought republicans only pandered to bankers and the like.

    Seems kind of counterproductive, since most of them seem to vote Democrat…


  66. 66 | June 27, 2012 12:54 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I know, right?! lol Geeze.


  67. Lily
    67 | June 27, 2012 12:57 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    The Sandusky prosecutors tainted solid evidence with Costas’ edited interview now opening the door for appeal. Why people don’t learn to stay away from main stream media editings is beyond me

    I don’t know about the appeal…the ten (I think it was 10) boys who testified about him abusing them will sink any appeal even if he is granted a new trial. All it will be is a waste of taxpayers money on re-trying him even if he is granted an appeal and that is going to be iffy on the appeal.


  68. 68 | June 27, 2012 12:57 pm

    OT
    I wish someone would photo shop Obama’s head on this marcher at the NYC gay parade.


  69. Lily
    69 | June 27, 2012 12:58 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I call it the *SPINNING BEACH-BALL OF MADNESS’ when that happens to me! ;)


  70. 70 | June 27, 2012 12:58 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Almost a Decade Ago WFAN’s Mike Francesa and Chris Russo Blamed 9/11 on The Jews

    I don’t listen to WFAN radio so I never heard that. Glad I didn’t. What losers.


  71. Da_Beerfreak
    71 | June 27, 2012 12:59 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Formercorpsman:
    Sounds right to me. You will probably hear similar “editorializing” from lefties in the entertainment and music fields in the weeks to come, too.

    Right on.
    It’s all part of a larger propaganda operation to misinform as many of the uninformed as possible. :evil:


  72. 72 | June 27, 2012 1:00 pm

    @ Kafir:

    But how do they pander to the white working class?

    Read this.

    Both Parties target groups and pander to them.


  73. 73 | June 27, 2012 1:00 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Yup!

    >:-[


  74. huckfunn
    74 | June 27, 2012 1:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Good one {huck}!
    /darn it and still showing off your skillz on embedding pics!!!

    :cool:


  75. 75 | June 27, 2012 1:01 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Actually Wall Street/Bankers has shifted to the GOP this cycle.


  76. Lily
    76 | June 27, 2012 1:03 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    pat wrote:

    I wonder if he is aware that Obama’s reputation as being an athlete is entirely self-manufactured. Or is that also no ones business?

    Well, at least he’s consistent.

    Everything else about him is self-manufactured, too.

    Yep his history is so scrubbed it is unreal. Yet still if anyone with an IQ of over 45 did even a little digging would know that he isn’t who he portray’s himself to be. He is a LIAR.


  77. 77 | June 27, 2012 1:04 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Ok that says he needs them but doesn’t explain how he panders to them. “White working class” -- what extra attention do they get that others don’t? Wouldn’t the ECONOMY be what motivates them (imo)?

    Paying extra attention to the economy would help ALL OF US, not just the white working class.

    Not trying to start an argument, I just don’t get it.


  78. 78 | June 27, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I did a Mike Lupica post once here a few years back. I’ll see if he has one in the coming week so I can rip it apart.


  79. 79 | June 27, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Good. We need their green to fight the machine.


  80. lobo91
    80 | June 27, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Both Parties target groups and pander to them.

    Nobody’s pandering to me, dammit!

    //Where’s my free stuff?


  81. Lily
    81 | June 27, 2012 1:07 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Oooooooooooh back to the Clint Eastwood avatar …. really when I think of huckfunn….the Eastwood avatar is just so you!!! ;)


  82. 82 | June 27, 2012 1:09 pm

    @ lobo91:

    You should have voted for Obama. He would have paid your mortgage!
    ///

    Remember that lady that said Obama was going to pay her mortgage.


  83. 83 | June 27, 2012 1:09 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Both Parties target groups and pander to them.
    Nobody’s pandering to me, dammit!
    //Where’s my free stuff?

    Leia had it converted to Peanut-butter filled Pretzels, and is eating it right now… :razz:


  84. Lily
    84 | June 27, 2012 1:13 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    You should have voted for Obama. He would have paid mortgage!
    ///

    Remember that lady that said Obama was going to pay her mortgage.

    Yep and it never got paid…I would bet the bank on that. Obama is nothing but a damn pathological liar….he ran in 2008 on everyone gets FREE, FREE STUFF!!! Yet the idjits that voted for him never thought on excatly HOW HE WAS GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THE FREE STUFF HE WAS GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE!!! The country is broke.


  85. lobo91
    85 | June 27, 2012 1:13 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Probably so…


  86. lobo91
    86 | June 27, 2012 1:14 pm

    @ Lily:

    The country is broke because we have to pay for the last round of “free stuff” some politician passed out.


  87. 87 | June 27, 2012 1:14 pm

    @ Kafir:

    The GOP uses social issues that appeal to the White Working class. It’s just politics. Both parties do that stuff. Its nothing to get worked up about.

    Obama is offering free stuff not just to blacks or Hispanics, but to everyone. That’s why White Hipsters vote support him. The Free Contraceptives is aimed at the White Hipster crowd. That’s the Democrats MO, free stuff for all! Of course they don’t explain who will pay for it.


  88. 88 | June 27, 2012 1:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The country is broke because we have to pay for the last round of “free stuff” some politician passed out.

    Yup and Obama wants to give out more free stuff. I predict if God forbid he gets a 2nd term he will do an Executive Order making College Free for all.


  89. 89 | June 27, 2012 1:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Probably so…

    Hmmmm, hell to pay when you get home…Or… Free Peanut-butter filled Pretzels today… Decisions decisions oh what is a Sheltie to do… :grin:


  90. lobo91
    90 | June 27, 2012 1:17 pm

    @ Rodan:

    People who own private jets will pay for it, of course.


  91. Lily
    91 | June 27, 2012 1:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    The country is broke because we have to pay for the last round of “free stuff” some politician passed out.

    True. But obama took it up a hundred notches…I wonder if all the people who thought they were going to get free stuff and never got that free stuff that was promised to them are going to vote for him again or just sit this election out? obama is losing his base…but all the celebs and pundits on TV think he is just the bees-knees…like anyone cares about celebs and pundits that don’t hide their bias on how great obama is and we are to just swallow their opinions when they are living the high-life and telling the little people they are just racist because they aren’t all goo-goo about obama this time around. So far he even gets booed at his own fund-raisers…at your own fund-raisers you get booed. WOW.


  92. 92 | June 27, 2012 1:22 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ doriangrey:
    @ Lily:
    @ Kafir:

    This is the mentality Obama/Dems feed into.

    #137 Gus

    I think there should be free college available.


  93. lobo91
    93 | June 27, 2012 1:24 pm

    @ Lily:

    Of course they’ll vote for him again. He’s telling them that if they don’t, they’ll never get their free stuff.


  94. 94 | June 27, 2012 1:24 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I am not worked up I’m trying to understand your reasoning. And I see where we diverge… I see social issues as color blind. Maybe it’s because of the black churches in the south but I know too many black social conservatives to say that’s a white issue thang.

    Yeah, they still vote dem.


  95. Lily
    95 | June 27, 2012 1:24 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Coming from the guster…it is insane. You don’t have to have college to get a job.
    /this mentality is just so wrong!!!!


  96. waldensianspirit
    96 | June 27, 2012 1:25 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I could see that with volunteer professors


  97. Lily
    97 | June 27, 2012 1:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Of course they’ll vote for him again. He’s telling them that if they don’t, they’ll never get their free stuff.

    Yep and he’ll throw in some unicorns and rainbows in with all the free stuff to boot!


  98. 98 | June 27, 2012 1:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    People who own private jets will pay for it, of course.

    And every conservative in the country will also discover quite suddenly, that by decree Executive Order of comrade Obama they have been designated as a x-percentage private owner of a military jet, for tax purposes only of course.


  99. lobo91
    99 | June 27, 2012 1:26 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I think Kate Beckinsale should be waiting for me when I get home, too.

    Doesn’t mean the government’s obligated to make it happen.


  100. lobo91
    100 | June 27, 2012 1:28 pm

    @ Lily:

    Yep and he’ll throw in some unicorns and rainbows in with all the free stuff to boot!

    As long as it’s not Skittles and iced tea…


  101. Lily
    101 | June 27, 2012 1:30 pm

    @ Kafir:

    I think that the women and men here think differently and see things in quite a different light. For one women aren’t as rigid and expect prefection.
    /maybe it’s because we have had some dealings with raising children and dealing with husbands. ;)


  102. Lily
    102 | June 27, 2012 1:31 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Yep and he’ll throw in some unicorns and rainbows in with all the free stuff to boot!

    As long as it’s not Skittles and iced tea…

    *Rim-Shot* :lol: Oh he might be down with that!!! ;)


  103. 103 | June 27, 2012 1:32 pm

    @ Lily:

    We have the patience of saints I tells ya!

    ;-)


  104. Lily
    104 | June 27, 2012 1:33 pm

    Kafir wrote:

    @ Lily:

    We have the patience of saints I tells ya!

    Oh indeed we do {kafir}!!!!! :)


  105. lobo91
    105 | June 27, 2012 1:33 pm

    @ Lily:

    Sorry…did you say something?

    //Still thinking about Kate Beckinsale…


  106. huckfunn
    106 | June 27, 2012 1:34 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Kafir:

    I think that the women and men here think differently and see things in quite a different light. For one women aren’t as rigid and expect prefection.
    /maybe it’s because we have had some dealings with raising children and dealing with husbands.

    Kafir wrote:

    @ Lily:

    We have the patience of saints I tells ya!

    Maybe a war on wimins ain’t such a bad idea :twisted:


  107. Lily
    107 | June 27, 2012 1:35 pm

    @ lobo91:

    :lol: :lol: :lol:


  108. Lily
    108 | June 27, 2012 1:36 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    :lol: May want to re-think that…we have some mojo skillz I tells ya! ;)


  109. Formercorpsman
    109 | June 27, 2012 1:36 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Pretty much. Recently, I have been dealing with a friend on FB, who I have known since we were about 5 or 6 years old. He lives in Florida, is your average fat white guy, married late, but likes fishing, had fast cars, etc.

    I can tell he is just reposting talking points when he puts out messages on fb, but it is so obvious he feels he has acquired an enlightened grasp of his leftist knowledge as it comes through often in the forms of questions.

    I know this guy knows nothing more than what he reads on HuffPo, the top line, that trying to debate him is flat out boring because once he can’t answer it becomes the boilerplate junior high estrogen laden retort.

    But that is all they need. Enough to convince someone who refuses to dig for themselves.


  110. RIX
    110 | June 27, 2012 1:37 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Pelosi is so lucky that Sheila Jackson Lee is around.
    That way it is a jump ball for most stupid woman in
    North America.
    Sen. Patty Murray of Washington (Democrat) wants in on that title.

    A solid contender & I would toss in Maxine Waters.


  111. Buffalobob
    111 | June 27, 2012 1:38 pm

    LZ so are you saying that the fact that two US border agents and 300 Mexicans were murdered as a direct result of your beloved Regine’s policies is no big deal, then like Debbie Washer Schultz your braids may be too tight.


  112. 112 | June 27, 2012 1:39 pm

    Kafir wrote:

    @ Lily:
    We have the patience of saints I tells ya!

    Well of course you do, how could you ever decide which pair of shoes to wear every day if you didn’t… Or god forbid, survive a single shoe shopping safari with your girlfriends?


  113. 113 | June 27, 2012 1:39 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I think that French TV Reporter should be given to you as gift!

    Vote Obama!
    ////


  114. huckfunn
    114 | June 27, 2012 1:41 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I left you a message on the Obama Bust thread.


  115. 115 | June 27, 2012 1:42 pm

    @ Lily:

    {Lily}!


  116. lobo91
    116 | June 27, 2012 1:42 pm

    @ RIX:

    Cynthia McKinney


  117. 117 | June 27, 2012 1:43 pm

    @ huckfunn:


  118. 118 | June 27, 2012 1:44 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Exactly!


  119. lobo91
    119 | June 27, 2012 1:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    I think that French TV Reporter should be given to you as gift!

    Vote Obama!
    ////

    Deal!


  120. huckfunn
    120 | June 27, 2012 1:45 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    May want to re-think that…we have some mojo skillz I tells ya!

    Kafir wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    I surrender already. Please don’t cut off the mojo :sad:


  121. Da_Beerfreak
    121 | June 27, 2012 1:46 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Kafir:

    I think that the women and men here think differently and see things in quite a different light. For one women aren’t as rigid and expect prefection.
    /maybe it’s because we have had some dealings with raising children and dealing with husbands.

    Kafir wrote:

    @ Lily:

    We have the patience of saints I tells ya!

    Maybe a war on wimins ain’t such a bad idea

    I keep trying to tell everybody that the 19th Amendment was a bad idea… :wink:


  122. 122 | June 27, 2012 1:47 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Smart man!

    ~:D


  123. 123 | June 27, 2012 1:47 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Where did I leave that go-go-gadget smacker?!


  124. 124 | June 27, 2012 1:47 pm

    @ lobo91:

    :lol:


  125. 125 | June 27, 2012 1:49 pm

    Kafir wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Where did I leave that go-go-gadget smacker?!

    :shock: … ROTFLMAO…. :lol: :lol: :lol:


  126. 126 | June 27, 2012 1:50 pm

    @ Kafir:

    You left it at LGF and Charles Johnson sat on it!


  127. RIX
    127 | June 27, 2012 1:50 pm

    @ Speranza:
    BHO at a rally in Miami congratulated the City
    on the NBA Championship of the Miami “Heap”, not Heat.
    Slip of the tongue , or his middle finger?


  128. 128 | June 27, 2012 1:53 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Seriously, we need to make one of those. We could make a fortune!!

    @ Rodan:

    Nah, that’s his thumb! I haven’t been to LGF in years! We have Diary of Daedalus for dat!

    ~:D


  129. Guggi
    129 | June 27, 2012 1:53 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    BHO at a rally in Miami congratulated the City
    on the NBA Championship of the Miami “Heap”, not Heat.
    Slip of the tongue , or his middle finger?

    Maybe he needs eyeglasses ? Those f*cking teleprompters are so far away….


  130. RIX
    130 | June 27, 2012 1:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Cynthia McKinney

    That is a hell of a nomination. The five ladies nominated
    are all worthy.


  131. RIX
    131 | June 27, 2012 1:58 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Maybe he needs eyeglasses ? Those f*cking teleprompters are so far away….

    I think that he did that because he palms himself off
    as a Chicgo Bulls fan.
    It is like when he threw out the first pitch at a Washington Nationals game & wore a White Sox hat.
    He is a sophmoric jerk.


  132. Speranza
    132 | June 27, 2012 1:59 pm

    Kafir wrote:

    But how do they pander to the white working class? I thought republicans only pandered to bankers and the like.

    Republicans try to appeal to all working class people. Sadly Blacks are automatic Democrats (at least 90% of them).


  133. 133 | June 27, 2012 2:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Kafir:
    You left it at LGF and Charles Johnson sat on it!

    Hmmm, that just might explain Chunkels the Clown’s intellectual devolution, after sitting on Kafir’s go-go-gadget smacker the go-go-gadget smacker clearly went into auto-mode and began slapping the bejebbus out of Chunkels the Clowns ass resulting in the aforementioned brain damaged intellectual devolution. :shock: :twisted:


  134. Guggi
    134 | June 27, 2012 2:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    He is a sophmoric jerk.

    nothing new…


  135. Formercorpsman
    135 | June 27, 2012 2:01 pm

    @ RIX:

    Absolutely. He does this type of thing just too much for it to be accidental.


  136. Speranza
    136 | June 27, 2012 2:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    In the NYC area, Mike Francesa (of WFAN) also is a know-it-all jackass who on 9/12/01 actually blamed America’s support for Israel and demanded that American Jews take loyalty tests (but not American Muslims) for the terror attack. Conveniently Sportsradio WFAN took the show out of its archives.

    I remember that. He’s really an asshole. He also mocked Baseball Players with accents. He’s a first class scumbag.

    He is a “Mr. Know-it-all”.


  137. Speranza
    137 | June 27, 2012 2:02 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Almost a Decade Ago WFAN’s Mike Francesa and Chris Russo Blamed 9/11 on The Jews

    I don’t listen to WFAN radio so I never heard that. Glad I didn’t. What losers.

    I wish I could say it was an Urban Legend but unfortunately it is true.


  138. 138 | June 27, 2012 2:04 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    He is a “Mr. Know-it-all”.

    And he has his two best friends in the entire world giving him the best advice he has ever heard, his best friends, why they are none other than Sofa King, We Todd Ed…


  139. RIX
    139 | June 27, 2012 2:05 pm

    Formercorpsman wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Absolutely. He does this type of thing just too much for it to be accidental.

    Yes


  140. 140 | June 27, 2012 2:06 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    That might have triggered his nervous breakdown.


  141. citizen_q
    141 | June 27, 2012 2:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The country is broke because we have to pay for the last round of “free stuff” some politician passed out.

    Maybe we could start handing out titles? That’s what they did in a “Cheers” episode when they could not afford raises.

    /


  142. 142 | June 27, 2012 2:07 pm

    New Thread.


  143. Speranza
    143 | June 27, 2012 2:07 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    You ever hear Mike Francesa and Chris “Mad Dog” Russo? Thankfully they have split up but the two of them could make you reach for ear plugs. Russo single handedly could make even the most uncaring baseball fan root forever against the San Francisco Giants (his favorite team). As for Mike Francesa -- he has his tongue so far up Bill Parcell’s butt he could put all the LGFers sycophancy towards Charles Johnson to shame.


  144. RIX
    144 | June 27, 2012 2:08 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I love sports like a lot of guys.
    But I can’t take very much of sports talk radio.
    J school grads are not particularly bright. There are
    exceptions, but as a general rule no, and sports
    journalists are the bottom feeders.


  145. 145 | June 27, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    :shock:

    LOL! Damn whatta visual!!


  146. The Osprey
    146 | June 27, 2012 3:34 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Since when should we give a shit about the political opinions of jock sniffing sports writers (such as the diminutive Mike Lupica) or entertainment writers?

    Sports writers, coaches and players used to be moderately conservative and you would often see them on outdoor shows hunting and fishing. Now, they all appear to be doctrinaire libs supporting gun control (hello Mike Ditka, ya lunkhead!) and are down with “urban” causes celebres.


  147. Bob in Breckenridge
    147 | June 27, 2012 4:47 pm

    LZ who? Who the hell is he? I watch ESPN all the time, and I’ve never seen this imbecile on ESPN or CNN, although I never watch CNN. And judging by their pathetic and anemic ratings, neither do most normal Americans.


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