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Spaghetti Plots Open

by coldwarrior ( 72 Comments › )
Filed under Academia, meteorology, Open thread, saturday lecture series, Science at June 30th, 2012 - 8:00 pm

Spaghetti Plots Open

 

Here is the reason it is so damned hot. These are essentially  jet stream maps. South of the jet stream its hot, north, not so much. This is caused by back to back la Nina years.

 

Enjoy this animated .gif

 

And here are the maps

NCEP Ensemble Spaghetti Maps
Initial Time: Jun 30, 2012  00Z
Valid Times: 72h – 336h, Days 3 – 14

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  1. 1 | June 30, 2012 8:29 pm

    This.


  2. Lily
    2 | June 30, 2012 8:38 pm

    Meh…it is always hot in the summer here in Louisiana….today not as bad some thunderstorms and cloud cover helped. I’m just use to very hot summers. ;)


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | June 30, 2012 8:44 pm

    @ Lily:

    i dont live in the south for that reason, the heat.

    cant stand it.


  4. Lily
    4 | June 30, 2012 8:48 pm


  5. huckfunn
    5 | June 30, 2012 8:50 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Lily:

    i dont live in the south for that reason, the heat.

    cant stand it.

    The heat is brutal, no question. But from mid-September thru April-May it’s really fairly pleasant. I think we had maybe 2 hard freezes here this past winter. There are so many preparations that one has to make to endure and deal with the cold, snow and ice. Down here I’m wearing shorts, polos and sandals into November.


  6. Lily
    6 | June 30, 2012 8:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I can understand that. But here were I live …. lots of afternoon storms cools it down. You get use to if you lived here long enough.
    I’m used to it. Makes me look forward to winter all that more. ;)


  7. eaglesoars
    7 | June 30, 2012 8:51 pm

    So why could this have not been predicted? Aren’t the computer models good for 100 yrs out?

    Oh, so the computer models lied and at least 11 people have died. Got it.

    In my 60 yrs I don’t remember a storm like this one. The wind gusts were up to 120 mph. Thank god we just put a new roof on. It held and so did the trees -- I think because they’re clustered together and the wind couldn’t get to any individual tree. There’s debris in the yard but it’s been too hot to go outside for any length of time to clean it all up. I did a quick run to the grocery store and people were loading up carts with bags of ice and the stock people were shoving more bags in the freezers as fast as they could move. We were SO LUCKY. Never lost power. The air conditioning is stressed because Hubby has to keep it set on meatlocker so now it’s set to 72 and he’s being a pain in the ass about it. I’ve told him it’s probably a good idea to find one of his favorite bars and go have a drink or five out of my presence. And stay there. Given what other people around us are going thru I don’t have a lot of patience when the house is 3 degrees warmer than he wants it to be. Cell phone service is spotty and I’ve noticed that some websites aren’t available.


  8. Lily
    8 | June 30, 2012 8:52 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Lily:

    i dont live in the south for that reason, the heat.

    cant stand it.

    The heat is brutal, no question. But from mid-September thru April-May it’s really fairly pleasant. I think we had maybe 2 hard freezes here this past winter. There are so many preparations that one has to make to endure and deal with the cold, snow and ice. Down here I’m wearing shorts, polos and sandals into November.

    Yep…and when it gets in the 50′s we consider it COLD! ;)
    Plus all the oak trees with moss hanging off them is so beautiful!


  9. Lily
    9 | June 30, 2012 8:55 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Glad you got lucky through the storm.


  10. 10 | June 30, 2012 8:55 pm

    It hit 105 for the second day in a row, but thank God I have electricity. I spent a couple of weeks in Phoenix during July and August and, though it would get well over 110, it wasn’t as unpleasant ed as you might think, The virtual lack of humidity really is the difference.

    Since it hasn’t rained in a couple of weeks, the humidity is only around 30%, so that’s in our favor. It’s still pretty miserable, though.

    We should all say a prayer for those millions who are dealing with this heat sans electricity -- people are going to be dying.


  11. Lily
    11 | June 30, 2012 9:00 pm


  12. huckfunn
    12 | June 30, 2012 9:02 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ MacDuff:
    Part of my job is running land titles back to the sovereignty of the soil. That is to say that I have to research and copy every document in the chain of title from the present to when Stephen F. Austin was granted title to his colony from Mexico in the early 1800′s. I look at those old documents, read the probates (prior to 1900 they are all hand written) and think of how hard life was back then… and no AC. Showers Baths once a week whether you needed it, or not. Makes me wonder how they all ended up with such large families in those days.


  13. eaglesoars
    13 | June 30, 2012 9:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Glad you got lucky through the storm.

    Neighborhoods less than a mile away from us just got leveled. When I look at Montgomery County in Maryland and areas here that got nailed I THINK the difference in our good luck is that we are a younger neighborhood and all our power lines are underground. Those neigborhoods have above-ground lines and mature trees that have not had their roots cared for. Those trees come down taking the lines with them. This happens in Montgomery County several times a year. Mont. Co. and Prince Geo County (also in Maryland) are now on water restriction because they didn’t get to fill their back up water supplie (no power) and there is no pressure in line lines -- think fire hydrants.


  14. Lily
    14 | June 30, 2012 9:02 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    It hit 105 for the second day in a row, but thank God I have electricity. I spent a couple of weeks in Phoenix during July and August and, though it would get well over 110, it wasn’t as unpleasant ed as you might think, The virtual lack of humidity really is the difference.

    Since it hasn’t rained in a couple of weeks, the humidity is only around 30%, so that’s in our favor. It’s still pretty miserable, though.

    We should all say a prayer for those millions who are dealing with this heat sans electricity – people are going to be dying.

    Amen. My God be with all the people without electricity during this heat wave and if it is your will to break the heat wave. Amen.


  15. AZfederalist
    15 | June 30, 2012 9:04 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i dont live in the south for that reason, the heat.

    cant stand it.

    I don’t live in the north because I can’t stand the cold. Ice belongs in one’s ice tea, not the surface of a lake. :twisted:


  16. eaglesoars
    16 | June 30, 2012 9:04 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    think of how hard life was back then

    Hubby and I have wondered about that too vis a vis the Civil War when the uniforms were wool.

    Don’t get me started on the pinafores, corsets, etc. GAH!


  17. Lily
    17 | June 30, 2012 9:04 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Dear heavens….been there and done that with some of the hurricanes down here in the Gulf.
    May God be with all the people who are suffering.


  18. Lily
    18 | June 30, 2012 9:08 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    think of how hard life was back then

    Hubby and I have wondered about that too vis a vis the Civil War when the uniforms were wool.

    Don’t get me started on the pinafores, corsets, etc. GAH!

    Also you have to remember back in the day the houses were built to handle the heat, …not anymore and with obama shutting down dozens of coal plants people will very well suffer terribly.


  19. eaglesoars
    19 | June 30, 2012 9:11 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Dear heavens….been there and done that with some of the hurricanes down here in the Gulf.

    I know. We had to evac my parents from Florida when Opal hit. We get the tail end of hurricanes here -- Isabel and Ivan were particularly evil. But ask anyone in western Penna. about the Election Day flood. I hate floods. What we’ve had here isn’t going to change the ecology much -- no nocturnal animals coming out in the day having to be shot because they’re hungry and desperate. Although I must say -- I worry about my birds. All I’ve seen today are the mourning doves. Not even any robins. Wonder how their nests made out.


  20. Lily
    20 | June 30, 2012 9:12 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ MacDuff:
    Part of my job is running land titles back to the sovereignty of the soil. That is to say that I have to research and copy every document in the chain of title from the present to when Stephen F. Austin was granted title to his colony from Mexico in the early 1800′s. I look at those old documents, read the probates (prior to 1900 they are all hand written) and think of how hard life was back then… and no AC. Showers Baths once a week whether you needed it, or not. Makes me wonder how they all ended up with such large families in those days.

    They adapted to the heat and like I said above the houses were built to make the houses cooler…we would be in a world of hurt if our AC’s were taken away because our houses are not built to handle the heat. I remember when I was young we had no AC…did fine. I remember my grandmothers house no AC and had a out-house…you would be surprised handled it.


  21. huckfunn
    21 | June 30, 2012 9:12 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    think of how hard life was back then

    Hubby and I have wondered about that too vis a vis the Civil War when the uniforms were wool.

    Don’t get me started on the pinafores, corsets, etc. GAH!

    All of the work was hard. Plowing with mules. No chainsaws or jack hammers. Everything done with hard physical manuel labor. Ice wasn’t commonly available until the late 1800′s or early 1900′s depending on where you lived.


  22. eaglesoars
    22 | June 30, 2012 9:13 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Also you have to remember back in the day the houses were built to handle the heat

    COMPARED TO WHAT?? I spent entire summers at my maternal grandparents house in New Orleans and the house we rented in Boloxi across the street from the Gulf. Yeah, the ceilings were higher and there were fans, but we wrapped ourselves in wet sheets to sleep.


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | June 30, 2012 9:14 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    In my 60 yrs I don’t remember a storm like this one.

    oddly, we get a lot of these types of storms in w PA.

    derecho, they are called

    at least one a year if not 2


  24. eaglesoars
    24 | June 30, 2012 9:15 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    All of the work was hard

    I’ve seen that cited as a reason for the large families. But it never quite made sense to me. Children are cost centers, physically and financially for at least 5 yrs. Not sure what the ROI on that is.


  25. Lily
    25 | June 30, 2012 9:15 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Dear heavens….been there and done that with some of the hurricanes down here in the Gulf.

    I know. We had to evac my parents from Florida when Opal hit. We get the tail end of hurricanes here – Isabel and Ivan were particularly evil. But ask anyone in western Penna. about the Election Day flood. I hate floods. What we’ve had here isn’t going to change the ecology much – no nocturnal animals coming out in the day having to be shot because they’re hungry and desperate. Although I must say – I worry about my birds. All I’ve seen today are the mourning doves. Not even any robins. Wonder how their nests made out.

    They will come back. Always do. Summer brings bad storms. Just the way of climate. Even some of our thunderstorms are bada$$!!! I was in Houston all last week..came home and could tell Louisiana got the bad heat too. Today showers and mild thunderstorms will correct everything. At least for the time being. ;)


  26. heysoos
    26 | June 30, 2012 9:16 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ MacDuff:
    Part of my job is running land titles back to the sovereignty of the soil. That is to say that I have to research and copy every document in the chain of title from the present to when Stephen F. Austin was granted title to his colony from Mexico in the early 1800′s. I look at those old documents, read the probates (prior to 1900 they are all hand written) and think of how hard life was back then… and no AC. Showers Baths once a week whether you needed it, or not. Makes me wonder how they all ended up with such large families in those days.

    Texas history fascinates me…one hell of a story


  27. eaglesoars
    27 | June 30, 2012 9:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    oddly, we get a lot of these types of storms in w PA.

    I was born and raised there, as you know. No, we did NOT get what we got here last nite. Promise.


  28. heysoos
    28 | June 30, 2012 9:17 pm

    over 100d everyday now in ABQ…I have no swampcooler, or AC…it’s a bitch, but I’m super tough….
    heh…yeah


  29. huckfunn
    29 | June 30, 2012 9:18 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    All of the work was hard

    I’ve seen that cited as a reason for the large families. But it never quite made sense to me. Children are cost centers, physically and financially for at least 5 yrs. Not sure what the ROI on that is.

    I was actually marvelling at the idea that people must have had terrible body odor and still found a way to make lots of babies. I guess love conquers all. :mrgreen:


  30. heysoos
    30 | June 30, 2012 9:18 pm

    it’s just heat…buck up cowboys


  31. Lily
    31 | June 30, 2012 9:19 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Not just that…big windows and high ceilings …..do make a difference. Like I said before I grew up with no AC and in the summer an outhouse. You get use to it. Not to mention ceiling fans make a huge difference in the summer. Now days no one wants to leave their windows open or unlocked.
    Plus in the summer we didn’t stay inside…we were either on the porch or under a huge oak tree.


  32. huckfunn
    32 | June 30, 2012 9:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Texas history fascinates me…one hell of a story

    The Alamo with Billy Bob Thornton as Davy Crockett is on the Military Channel right now. Big battle coming up. The Alamo they built for that movie is just about 12 miles away from my house. I should say, what’s left of it. It burnt down during the fires last year.


  33. Lily
    33 | June 30, 2012 9:23 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Never ever had to wrap myself in a wet sheet…just endured.


  34. eaglesoars
    34 | June 30, 2012 9:26 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Like I said before I grew up with no AC

    Me too. I remember everyone going outside and turning the hose on each other or playing under the sprinkler. Moms closed the curtains.


  35. heysoos
    35 | June 30, 2012 9:28 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    been there and met some owner or rep from the ranch…I think I’ve read every book ever published on the Alamo, since I was a kid…if dip shit Americans in Conn think their independence was hard fought, they should study Texas…btw, the movie was excellent..it really conveyed the futility and opposing optimism…tough guys


  36. Lily
    36 | June 30, 2012 9:29 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Like I said before I grew up with no AC

    Me too. I remember everyone going outside and turning the hose on each other or playing under the sprinkler. Moms closed the curtains.

    Yep! That is the way it was. Playing in the water or sprinkler…although the summers were hot..I looked forward to the summer as a kid..meant I could go barefoot and no damn school!!!
    Ah the good ole days. Today it is the other way around I look forward to the cooler days. ;)


  37. 37 | June 30, 2012 9:30 pm

    Interesting. It explains why the maps I was looking at yesterday were showing Costa Rica as cooler than Colorado. And there I was thinking that one of the local fires had set light to a marijuana dispensary.


  38. heysoos
    38 | June 30, 2012 9:31 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    @ huckfunn:
    really sorry you lost your home…that went right over my dense head…been a couple of years since I’ve visited….drove from Shreveport to El Paso a couple of months ago, north of all that I guess


  39. Lily
    39 | June 30, 2012 9:33 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Sorry to hear about your house. I mis-read and thought the movie set was burnt down. Sorry {huck}


  40. Calo
    40 | June 30, 2012 9:34 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    over 100d everyday now in ABQ…I have no swampcooler, or AC…it’s a bitch, but I’m super tough….
    heh…yeah

    My goodness heysoos, I would melt without an A/C or swamp cooler.

    Humidity or not.


  41. Lily
    41 | June 30, 2012 9:36 pm


  42. eaglesoars
    42 | June 30, 2012 9:36 pm

    time to get back to my reading -- ‘nite all.


  43. Calo
    43 | June 30, 2012 9:36 pm

    @ Lily:
    Lily, I think the set burnt down, not Huck’s place.


  44. huckfunn
    44 | June 30, 2012 9:37 pm

    @ heysoos:
    @ Calo:
    No, no. My house didn’t burn down. The Alamo that they built for the movie burnt down. But thanks for your kind thoughts. :grin:


  45. Lily
    45 | June 30, 2012 9:37 pm

    @ Calo:

    No kidding. Maybe he has a attic fan. ;)
    /hey {Calo}


  46. Lily
    46 | June 30, 2012 9:38 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Cool..okay I read the post correctly then. ;)
    /not as dim as I thought!~


  47. huckfunn
    47 | June 30, 2012 9:39 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Lily, I think the set burnt down, not Huck’s place.

    That’s right. Poor sentence construction. My fault. :lol:


  48. Lily
    48 | June 30, 2012 9:40 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Lily, I think the set burnt down, not Huck’s place.

    Yeah that was my first impression when I read the comment by huck…but hey made me rethink what I thought there for a moment.
    /plus…still really tired. ;)


  49. Lily
    49 | June 30, 2012 9:41 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Lily, I think the set burnt down, not Huck’s place.

    That’s right. Poor sentence construction. My fault.

    No I actually read it correctly….should have trusted my reading.
    ;)


  50. Lily
    50 | June 30, 2012 9:45 pm

    There is one bet one would never lose…it is always hot in the south and there are heat waves all over the country in the summer.
    That is why they call it summer and the one word that goes with summer is hot. ;)


  51. Lily
    51 | June 30, 2012 9:46 pm

    Okay out for me…hubby wants to watch a movie.

    Everyone have a good evening!!! :)


  52. huckfunn
    52 | June 30, 2012 9:47 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Okay out for me…hubby wants to watch a movie.

    Everyone have a good evening!!!

    G’nite Lily. Stay cool.


  53. Calo
    53 | June 30, 2012 9:48 pm

    @ Lily:
    {{Night Lily}}

    Kiss the hubby for me.


  54. waldensianspirit
    54 | June 30, 2012 9:54 pm


    “He’s got real hair on his arms”


  55. 55 | June 30, 2012 9:55 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Texas history fascinates me…one hell of a story

    Yes, yes and yes. So many side-stories also crop up around it, too.

    There was the revolt of the northern Mexican desert states in the early 1840s -- if they had succeeded, maybe Texas would have been the forefront of a coalition of states (plus the future New Mexico), strong enough to face off against the Americans as well as the Mexicans.

    And don’t forget North America’s Mongols -- the Comanches. They were in Texas too. More than that, under their khan Buffalo Hump they effectively defeated the Texians and forced them to terms.


  56. Aussie Infidel
    56 | June 30, 2012 9:56 pm

    As a rule very few Aussies have A/C, even in the far North (The hot end) Houses are built on poles to allow the air to circulate freely underneath. (These types of houses have a name they are called Queenslanders) Or are built of 3 foot thick sandstone that insulates from both heat and cold.

    In Sydney we get 110 F in summer and as a kid the whole street slept on their front lawns. We kids thought it was Christmas. :)


  57. 57 | June 30, 2012 9:57 pm

    @ Zimriel:
    actually, American history in general is like that… very interesting stories. IMO


  58. Aussie Infidel
    58 | June 30, 2012 9:57 pm

    In fact IT WAS CHRISTMAS ofter. Ahh the strangeness of Downunder where Christmas are celebrated at the Bar-b-Que and beach! :)


  59. Aussie Infidel
    59 | June 30, 2012 9:59 pm

    ofter = often


  60. heysoos
    60 | June 30, 2012 10:00 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    okay, got it…it was a pretty cool place tho, almost perfect replica


  61. 61 | June 30, 2012 10:01 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    actually, American history in general is like that… very interesting stories. IMO

    Utah was the one which had me checking the cover of the book, to make sure it wasn’t taking about Medina in the 600s


  62. Aussie Infidel
    62 | June 30, 2012 10:02 pm

    We still eat great lashings of hot food, Hams, turkey and baked veges at christmas as the sweat rolls off our brows! :) We seem unable to completely cast off the Northern Hemisphere traditions completely! Lots of fake snow around windows . We draw the line at carolers however they turn up in shorts and T shirts!


  63. huckfunn
    63 | June 30, 2012 10:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    okay, got it…it was a pretty cool place tho, almost perfect replica

    The Alamo movie set was built on Reimers Ranch. Beautiful place. I haven’t been out there since the fires. Here’s some pics.


  64. heysoos
    64 | June 30, 2012 10:15 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Texas history fascinates me…one hell of a story
    Yes, yes and yes. So many side-stories also crop up around it, too.
    There was the revolt of the northern Mexican desert states in the early 1840s – if they had succeeded, maybe Texas would have been the forefront of a coalition of states (plus the future New Mexico), strong enough to face off against the Americans as well as the Mexicans.
    And don’t forget North America’s Mongols – the Comanches. They were in Texas too. More than that, under their khan Buffalo Hump they effectively defeated the Texians and forced them to terms.

    Adobe Walls…the Long Shot, Texas Rangers, the Parker story
    tons of very colorful stuff…I’m really fixated on Crockett, Bowie, Austin, Houston…that year, 1835-36 was an amazing story


  65. 65 | June 30, 2012 10:16 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    We still eat great lashings of hot food, Hams, turkey and baked veges at christmas as the sweat rolls off our brows! We seem unable to completely cast off the Northern Hemisphere traditions completely! Lots of fake snow around windows . We draw the line at carolers however they turn up in shorts and T shirts!

    that sounds fantastic! of course, a warm christmas would sound fantastic to me since i’m from AZ and i’ve spent many an 80 degree Xmas here. :-)


  66. heysoos
    66 | June 30, 2012 10:17 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    there it is…I could not remember their name…that’s some beautiful country imo


  67. heysoos
    67 | June 30, 2012 10:23 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    We still eat great lashings of hot food, Hams, turkey and baked veges at christmas as the sweat rolls off our brows! We seem unable to completely cast off the Northern Hemisphere traditions completely! Lots of fake snow around windows . We draw the line at carolers however they turn up in shorts and T shirts!

    that sounds fantastic! of course, a warm christmas would sound fantastic to me since i’m from AZ and i’ve spent many an 80 degree Xmas here.

    I’m a Michigan boy….
    sleigh bells ring..
    etc


  68. mawskrat
    68 | June 30, 2012 10:43 pm

    well it was a little hot today
    98 degrees whilst sitting on a 5 gallon
    bucket picking green beans. no biggie
    I’m acclimated to the heat by this time
    of year.


  69. mawskrat
    69 | June 30, 2012 10:48 pm

    @ mawskrat:

    the asparagus I grilled this evening
    was from the Republic of Peru


  70. 70 | June 30, 2012 11:12 pm

    mawskrat wrote:

    the asparagus I grilled this evening
    was from the Republic of Peru

    Spare some for Paterno’s grave?


  71. song_and_dance_man
    71 | July 1, 2012 12:02 am

    Cool


  72. 72 | July 1, 2012 9:02 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    huckfunn wrote:
    think of how hard life was back then
    Hubby and I have wondered about that too vis a vis the Civil War when the uniforms were wool.
    Don’t get me started on the pinafores, corsets, etc. GAH!

    All of the work was hard. Plowing with mules. No chainsaws or jack hammers. Everything done with hard physical manuel labor. Ice wasn’t commonly available until the late 1800′s or early 1900′s depending on where you lived.

    Yes, people were tougher, but on the other hand, people on the average did not live as long then. You wouldn’t want to have to deal with the lack of clean water and proper sewage disposal, along with the prevalence of insect-borne diseases. Sometimes inclement weather (heat, cold, you name it) was too much for the older folks.


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