Spaghetti Plots Open
Here is the reason it is so damned hot. These are essentially jet stream maps. South of the jet stream its hot, north, not so much. This is caused by back to back la Nina years.
Enjoy this animated .gif
And here are the maps
NCEP Ensemble Spaghetti Maps
Initial Time: Jun 30, 2012 00Z
Valid Times: 72h – 336h, Days 3 – 14
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This.
Meh…it is always hot in the summer here in Louisiana….today not as bad some thunderstorms and cloud cover helped. I’m just use to very hot summers.
@ Lily:
i dont live in the south for that reason, the heat.
cant stand it.
coldwarrior wrote:
The heat is brutal, no question. But from mid-September thru April-May it’s really fairly pleasant. I think we had maybe 2 hard freezes here this past winter. There are so many preparations that one has to make to endure and deal with the cold, snow and ice. Down here I’m wearing shorts, polos and sandals into November.
@ coldwarrior:
I can understand that. But here were I live …. lots of afternoon storms cools it down. You get use to if you lived here long enough.
I’m used to it. Makes me look forward to winter all that more.
So why could this have not been predicted? Aren’t the computer models good for 100 yrs out?
Oh, so the computer models lied and at least 11 people have died. Got it.
In my 60 yrs I don’t remember a storm like this one. The wind gusts were up to 120 mph. Thank god we just put a new roof on. It held and so did the trees -- I think because they’re clustered together and the wind couldn’t get to any individual tree. There’s debris in the yard but it’s been too hot to go outside for any length of time to clean it all up. I did a quick run to the grocery store and people were loading up carts with bags of ice and the stock people were shoving more bags in the freezers as fast as they could move. We were SO LUCKY. Never lost power. The air conditioning is stressed because Hubby has to keep it set on meatlocker so now it’s set to 72 and he’s being a pain in the ass about it. I’ve told him it’s probably a good idea to find one of his favorite bars and go have a drink or five out of my presence. And stay there. Given what other people around us are going thru I don’t have a lot of patience when the house is 3 degrees warmer than he wants it to be. Cell phone service is spotty and I’ve noticed that some websites aren’t available.
huckfunn wrote:
Yep…and when it gets in the 50′s we consider it COLD!
Plus all the oak trees with moss hanging off them is so beautiful!
@ eaglesoars:
Glad you got lucky through the storm.
It hit 105 for the second day in a row, but thank God I have electricity. I spent a couple of weeks in Phoenix during July and August and, though it would get well over 110, it wasn’t as unpleasant ed as you might think, The virtual lack of humidity really is the difference.
Since it hasn’t rained in a couple of weeks, the humidity is only around 30%, so that’s in our favor. It’s still pretty miserable, though.
We should all say a prayer for those millions who are dealing with this heat sans electricity -- people are going to be dying.
@ Lily:
@ MacDuff:
Part of my job is running land titles back to the sovereignty of the soil. That is to say that I have to research and copy every document in the chain of title from the present to when Stephen F. Austin was granted title to his colony from Mexico in the early 1800′s. I look at those old documents, read the probates (prior to 1900 they are all hand written) and think of how hard life was back then… and no AC.
ShowersBaths once a week whether you needed it, or not. Makes me wonder how they all ended up with such large families in those days.Lily wrote:
Neighborhoods less than a mile away from us just got leveled. When I look at Montgomery County in Maryland and areas here that got nailed I THINK the difference in our good luck is that we are a younger neighborhood and all our power lines are underground. Those neigborhoods have above-ground lines and mature trees that have not had their roots cared for. Those trees come down taking the lines with them. This happens in Montgomery County several times a year. Mont. Co. and Prince Geo County (also in Maryland) are now on water restriction because they didn’t get to fill their back up water supplie (no power) and there is no pressure in line lines -- think fire hydrants.
MacDuff wrote:
Amen. My God be with all the people without electricity during this heat wave and if it is your will to break the heat wave. Amen.
coldwarrior wrote:
I don’t live in the north because I can’t stand the cold. Ice belongs in one’s ice tea, not the surface of a lake.
huckfunn wrote:
Hubby and I have wondered about that too vis a vis the Civil War when the uniforms were wool.
Don’t get me started on the pinafores, corsets, etc. GAH!
@ eaglesoars:
Dear heavens….been there and done that with some of the hurricanes down here in the Gulf.
May God be with all the people who are suffering.
eaglesoars wrote:
Also you have to remember back in the day the houses were built to handle the heat, …not anymore and with obama shutting down dozens of coal plants people will very well suffer terribly.
Lily wrote:
I know. We had to evac my parents from Florida when Opal hit. We get the tail end of hurricanes here -- Isabel and Ivan were particularly evil. But ask anyone in western Penna. about the Election Day flood. I hate floods. What we’ve had here isn’t going to change the ecology much -- no nocturnal animals coming out in the day having to be shot because they’re hungry and desperate. Although I must say -- I worry about my birds. All I’ve seen today are the mourning doves. Not even any robins. Wonder how their nests made out.
huckfunn wrote:
They adapted to the heat and like I said above the houses were built to make the houses cooler…we would be in a world of hurt if our AC’s were taken away because our houses are not built to handle the heat. I remember when I was young we had no AC…did fine. I remember my grandmothers house no AC and had a out-house…you would be surprised handled it.
eaglesoars wrote:
All of the work was hard. Plowing with mules. No chainsaws or jack hammers. Everything done with hard physical manuel labor. Ice wasn’t commonly available until the late 1800′s or early 1900′s depending on where you lived.
Lily wrote:
COMPARED TO WHAT?? I spent entire summers at my maternal grandparents house in New Orleans and the house we rented in Boloxi across the street from the Gulf. Yeah, the ceilings were higher and there were fans, but we wrapped ourselves in wet sheets to sleep.
eaglesoars wrote:
oddly, we get a lot of these types of storms in w PA.
derecho, they are called
at least one a year if not 2
huckfunn wrote:
I’ve seen that cited as a reason for the large families. But it never quite made sense to me. Children are cost centers, physically and financially for at least 5 yrs. Not sure what the ROI on that is.
eaglesoars wrote:
They will come back. Always do. Summer brings bad storms. Just the way of climate. Even some of our thunderstorms are bada$$!!! I was in Houston all last week..came home and could tell Louisiana got the bad heat too. Today showers and mild thunderstorms will correct everything. At least for the time being.
huckfunn wrote:
Texas history fascinates me…one hell of a story
coldwarrior wrote:
I was born and raised there, as you know. No, we did NOT get what we got here last nite. Promise.
over 100d everyday now in ABQ…I have no swampcooler, or AC…it’s a bitch, but I’m super tough….
heh…yeah
eaglesoars wrote:
I was actually marvelling at the idea that people must have had terrible body odor and still found a way to make lots of babies. I guess love conquers all.
it’s just heat…buck up cowboys
@ eaglesoars:
Not just that…big windows and high ceilings …..do make a difference. Like I said before I grew up with no AC and in the summer an outhouse. You get use to it. Not to mention ceiling fans make a huge difference in the summer. Now days no one wants to leave their windows open or unlocked.
Plus in the summer we didn’t stay inside…we were either on the porch or under a huge oak tree.
heysoos wrote:
The Alamo with Billy Bob Thornton as Davy Crockett is on the Military Channel right now. Big battle coming up. The Alamo they built for that movie is just about 12 miles away from my house. I should say, what’s left of it. It burnt down during the fires last year.
@ eaglesoars:
Never ever had to wrap myself in a wet sheet…just endured.
Lily wrote:
Me too. I remember everyone going outside and turning the hose on each other or playing under the sprinkler. Moms closed the curtains.
@ huckfunn:
been there and met some owner or rep from the ranch…I think I’ve read every book ever published on the Alamo, since I was a kid…if dip shit Americans in Conn think their independence was hard fought, they should study Texas…btw, the movie was excellent..it really conveyed the futility and opposing optimism…tough guys
eaglesoars wrote:
Yep! That is the way it was. Playing in the water or sprinkler…although the summers were hot..I looked forward to the summer as a kid..meant I could go barefoot and no damn school!!!
Ah the good ole days. Today it is the other way around I look forward to the cooler days.
Interesting. It explains why the maps I was looking at yesterday were showing Costa Rica as cooler than Colorado. And there I was thinking that one of the local fires had set light to a marijuana dispensary.
@ huckfunn:
@ huckfunn:
really sorry you lost your home…that went right over my dense head…been a couple of years since I’ve visited….drove from Shreveport to El Paso a couple of months ago, north of all that I guess
@ huckfunn:
Sorry to hear about your house. I mis-read and thought the movie set was burnt down. Sorry {huck}
heysoos wrote:
My goodness heysoos, I would melt without an A/C or swamp cooler.
Humidity or not.
time to get back to my reading -- ‘nite all.
@ Lily:
Lily, I think the set burnt down, not Huck’s place.
@ heysoos:
@ Calo:
No, no. My house didn’t burn down. The Alamo that they built for the movie burnt down. But thanks for your kind thoughts.
@ Calo:
No kidding. Maybe he has a attic fan.
/hey {Calo}
@ huckfunn:
Cool..okay I read the post correctly then.
/not as dim as I thought!~
Calo wrote:
That’s right. Poor sentence construction. My fault.
Calo wrote:
Yeah that was my first impression when I read the comment by huck…but hey made me rethink what I thought there for a moment.
/plus…still really tired.
huckfunn wrote:
No I actually read it correctly….should have trusted my reading.
There is one bet one would never lose…it is always hot in the south and there are heat waves all over the country in the summer.
That is why they call it summer and the one word that goes with summer is hot.
Okay out for me…hubby wants to watch a movie.
Everyone have a good evening!!!
Lily wrote:
G’nite Lily. Stay cool.
@ Lily:
{{Night Lily}}
Kiss the hubby for me.
“He’s got real hair on his arms”
heysoos wrote:
Yes, yes and yes. So many side-stories also crop up around it, too.
There was the revolt of the northern Mexican desert states in the early 1840s -- if they had succeeded, maybe Texas would have been the forefront of a coalition of states (plus the future New Mexico), strong enough to face off against the Americans as well as the Mexicans.
And don’t forget North America’s Mongols -- the Comanches. They were in Texas too. More than that, under their khan Buffalo Hump they effectively defeated the Texians and forced them to terms.
As a rule very few Aussies have A/C, even in the far North (The hot end) Houses are built on poles to allow the air to circulate freely underneath. (These types of houses have a name they are called Queenslanders) Or are built of 3 foot thick sandstone that insulates from both heat and cold.
In Sydney we get 110 F in summer and as a kid the whole street slept on their front lawns. We kids thought it was Christmas.
@ Zimriel:
actually, American history in general is like that… very interesting stories. IMO
In fact IT WAS CHRISTMAS ofter. Ahh the strangeness of Downunder where Christmas are celebrated at the Bar-b-Que and beach!
ofter = often
@ huckfunn:
okay, got it…it was a pretty cool place tho, almost perfect replica
Kirly wrote:
Utah was the one which had me checking the cover of the book, to make sure it wasn’t taking about Medina in the 600s
We still eat great lashings of hot food, Hams, turkey and baked veges at christmas as the sweat rolls off our brows!
We seem unable to completely cast off the Northern Hemisphere traditions completely! Lots of fake snow around windows . We draw the line at carolers however they turn up in shorts and T shirts!
heysoos wrote:
The Alamo movie set was built on Reimers Ranch. Beautiful place. I haven’t been out there since the fires. Here’s some pics.
Zimriel wrote:
Adobe Walls…the Long Shot, Texas Rangers, the Parker story
tons of very colorful stuff…I’m really fixated on Crockett, Bowie, Austin, Houston…that year, 1835-36 was an amazing story
Aussie Infidel wrote:
that sounds fantastic! of course, a warm christmas would sound fantastic to me since i’m from AZ and i’ve spent many an 80 degree Xmas here.
@ huckfunn:
there it is…I could not remember their name…that’s some beautiful country imo
Kirly wrote:
I’m a Michigan boy….
sleigh bells ring..
etc
well it was a little hot today
98 degrees whilst sitting on a 5 gallon
bucket picking green beans. no biggie
I’m acclimated to the heat by this time
of year.
@ mawskrat:
the asparagus I grilled this evening
was from the Republic of Peru
mawskrat wrote:
Spare some for Paterno’s grave?
Cool
huckfunn wrote:
Yes, people were tougher, but on the other hand, people on the average did not live as long then. You wouldn’t want to have to deal with the lack of clean water and proper sewage disposal, along with the prevalence of insect-borne diseases. Sometimes inclement weather (heat, cold, you name it) was too much for the older folks.