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Bunk X wrote:
i’m off tomorrow and have a 745 tee time.
howz that?
@ coldwarrior:
Good for now.
Bunk X wrote:
glad to have helped!
@ coldwarrior:
Czech the Pending file, there’s one that can be put up anytime on or before the 4th.
@ coldwarrior:
Ha! I’m off all week and it’s my anniversary!
@ Bunk X:
ok, we might run that on the 4th
@ coldwarrior:
Cool.
Annan: Russia, West agree on transition government for Syria
someone get this to rodan, hot off the presses
Tribal warfare continues for the fifth day straight in Libya, with 47 killed in the last three days alone and over 100 reportedly wounded. Ethnic strife in Libya has cost hundreds of lives since the fall of Muammar Gaddafi’s regime last October.
@ coldwarrior:
I did in admin show chat.
Kafir wrote:
thx…multitasking here (cleaning the kitchen after a lovely meal)
Hello? hello…helloooo
Echo…echo…echo…….
ah crap! i missed it??!!!
@ Brick:
@ Kirly:
was outside watching the lightning and having a cold one…i missed it too.
Kirly wrote:
howz the knee?
@ Kirly:
Well here’s a summary:
“Fuck”
“Fuckin’”
“Goddamn fuckin’”
“Fuckin’”
etc.
Bunk X wrote:
well now!
i guess there was no holding back (like there EVER is)
@ Bunk X:
One adjective fits all
coldwarrior wrote:
feeling a bit better. been in the pool most of the afternoon just gently swimming around. it’ll hurt again now that i’ve stood here for half an hour chopping all the pizza goodies.
Bunk X wrote:
well, F*ckin’A. hahahaahh. not one of those Fbombs were mine!
Kirly wrote:
that’ll happen after activity…swimming is the perfect rehab.
@ coldwarrior:
yep. makes it feel ALOT better. but, took me from Friday night all the way through this morning to get the swelling down to what I thought was acceptable. i know it’ll come back now. and, if it doesn’t come back after swimming, it’ll be back with a vengence after working all day tomorrow. i think i’m going to call the doc cuz there is a significant pain in the back of my leg right up at the top of my calf muscle. that and the swelling had me back using a crutch yesterday.
@ Kirly:
left or right side of the calf?
some swelling is expected, too much though indicates too much inflammatory process, simply put too much of an insult to the area either by use or a ‘trauma’ of some sorts. meniscus surgeries can be a decently long rehab. your doc will be able to square you away.
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s the left leg so it’s in the back towards this inside (ie, towards right leg). it feels just like a knotted up muscle but i dunno as i’ve never had meniscus surgery before. and it’s so bad for about 5 minutes when i first stand up, that i can barely stand. had me worried.
Kirly wrote:
Floating in the pool?
The Osprey wrote:
i don’t feel great about those two quotes appearing together. I was in the pool… floating, swimming, doing the bicycle motion (good for the knee).
Kirly wrote:
Ok, so there is no crap floating in the pool. That’s good to know.
@ coldwarrior:
Muslims doing what muslims do best: killing other muslims.
The Osprey wrote:
yep, always good to be confident of that. hahaha
I give up! Whee is the link to the live stream? I don’t want the archived shows.
@ Kirly:
i foud this for you:
Unfortunately doctors of 2011 don’t have a Tricorder like the doctors on Star Trek. However, calf pain is very common after almost all knee injuries/surgeries of any significance. Some of the muscles that cross the knee joint posteriorly, actually move two joints. Getting their actions and interactions back in sync after injury (surgery is controlled trauma) is sometimes a problem. And sometimes, that delicate coordination is never regained fully.
The gastrocnemius muscle originates on the back of the femur and inserts on the calcaneous. Thus, it acts to flex the knee and to plantarflex the ankle. The hamstrings (though not calf muscles) insert on the back of the tibia (behind the knee) and also have two actions; hip extension and knee flexion. Other muscles that plantarflex the ankle, or aid in that action (to stand on your toes) are the soleus, plantaris, the peroneals, and the toes flexors.
One source of deep proximal calf pain, that most surgeons forget about till someone brings it up, is an injury to the plantaris. This is a very small muscle with a long tendon, which is really not needed now that we don’t live in trees. It is commonly used for tendon grafts. However, I have seen it rupture, usually when the person is trying to push an extremely heavy object (like a refrigerator or a car). This can cause extreme pain in the calf, sometimes with swelling and bruising for a little while. After the initial injury, the symptoms subside and most people get back to their usual activities (most are not collegiate or elite athletes) without too much trouble. However, there are some that continue to have cramping and pain from the scar tissue that was formed when the muscle healed. Unfortunately, except for stretching, deep friction massage, and other such techniques, there is not much you can do about the scar tissue.
Also, anytime the knee is operated on, it is very important to get full extension as soon as possible. I’m sure your surgeon or therapist told you not to drape the knee over a pillow, but to elevate it straight. Your PT should also have emphasized extension right off the bat. The posterior capsule of the knee and the pesky posterior muscles can shorten and scar very quickly. If they do, you end up walking on your toes, which puts more stress on the calf muscles. Unfortunately, this can get to be a vicious cycle.
One, very rare cause of calf cramping after arthroscopic or arthroscopically assisted knee surgery is a compartment syndrome (even a subclinical one). The fluids that are used during surgery are pumped into the knee under pressure. This keeps the picture clear and the joint cavity clean of debris. This fluid can get pushed down into the calf, which is a tight fascial compartment. It’s sort of like a hot dog, it can’t take much fluid in it till the structures within it start to get squashed. In a full blown compartment syndrome, the muscles die due to lack of oxygen and the leg is useless. So, if you had a fairly good outcome, this did not happen to you, but, I have seen some subclinical cases where there was some substantial swelling in the calf that did cause some scar tissue. And as you probably realize, scar doesn’t stretch and contract like normal muscle, and it can cause cramps easily. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do about it.
So, trying to determine exactly what is going on, is not as easy as just opening an anatomy book. It is probably a combination of things and a different combination in each patient. You can try to prevent the big problems and treat the symptoms, but medicine is not an exact science. Most people do well. Unfortunately, when you are in the 1 to 5 % that don’t, well, …
Read more: Orthopedics Forum -- Sympathetic Calf Pain After An Acl Reconstruction? http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic36484.html#ixzz1zQcxoS4p
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
I thought it was over. it started at 8pm Eastern and it only runs 1-2 hours.
That could explain it.
Hey you guys are making the same mistake that the Brits, Aussies and Kiwis made with an unaffordable health care system that can’t do what it promises and costs twice as much as it was touted to do.
I thought I had warned you guys not to go there a whole year ago!
Roll in November folks!
Ohhh ! and I forgot to add. You just trashed your liberty big time as well. Just to add insult to fiscal injury.
@ Aussie Infidel:
That’s pretty much the case with every great idea the left comes up with.