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Good Work If You Can Get It.

by Flyovercountry ( 242 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Health Care, Liberal Fascism at July 4th, 2012 - 1:00 pm

Political Cartoons by Henry Payne

I am almost always astounded by the fact that consequences are seldom tied in people’s perception of events to the causes. I have some understanding as to why this happens, but the phenomenon is still a surprise to me, each and every time I see it in action. I can see by the reaction I am imagining on your face that you might need a few examples of what it is that I mean with this statement.

The good people of California have passed some of the most idiotic laws known to exist anywhere concerning the creation of new energy producing facilities in their state. They have passed air emission standards laws that requires the air in their state to possess air quality not seen in Yellowstone National Park, a place with no industry, very few cars, even fewer farting cows, and probably the lowest concentration of human activity seen anywhere in our nation. When they made it clear that they wanted nothing to do with electricity, cars, industry, air conditioning, who did they blame when their state was forced to do without those things? Why they blamed the energy producers, auto manufacturers, and industrial leaders, of course. For those of you who live in Arizona, were it my coal burning power plant, I would just disconnect those transmission lines that headed off in a westerly direction and tell the residents who inhabit the land of the fruit and nut to stand under one of their windmills and blow really really hard.

We have made it a point in this country to oppose new sources of domestic oil production based on oft times discredited environmental statements. Truth in matters of the EPA’s war against energy production is considered a flexible and expendable commodity at best. I have sat at the dinner table with some of my liberal friends and listened to many of them, on multiple occasions declare that they would be perfectly willing to pay double the price for gasoline if it meant that they could tell themselves that they were cleaning up the environment, even if they really were not doing so. So, now that the gas prices have doubled at the pumps, just like Barack Obama and his DOE Chief, Steven Chu, promised they would, guess who is grumbling loudest about how this is all the fault of the big oil companies.

The reason for the disconnect from reality of course is that nobody wants, even on a subconscious level, to accept responsibility for creating the problem. Elections have consequences. Policy implementation has consequences. Politicians, in far to many cases, are able to get themselves elected by telling people that they can make the impossible, possible after all. Just like any poor soul who has ever purchased a fake painting, where the more one has paid for its purchase, the less inclined on admitting to oneself that it is in fact a forgery that person will be. Part of the art of the political swindle is how to keep spinning perception so that blame goes somewhere else, anywhere but where it belongs. Not bad work if you can get it.

What is even more exasperating to many of us is this. When these attempts to socially engineer the universe of commodities and rewrite the cold emotionless laws of economics end in the disaster that happens each and every time, why on Earth does anybody listen to the very same clowns who created the problem when they suddenly appear and start bleating about how they have the cure? All that the snake oil salesmen of our day are doing is offering solutions that will at best, somewhat mitigate the jawdroppingly disastrous results that they created in the first place. From their perspective, that’s just terrific. They get to lead lives far away from the negative impact that will be inflicted upon the rest of us. Even if perception does eventually catch up to them, and they are removed from elected office, they just get themselves appointed back to the table by their cronies.

While experiencing the horror of Thursday’s Obamacare decision, as decided by 5 of our Supreme Court Justices, (not just John Roberts.) I realized that the Constitution’s purpose of acting as a protector of we the people against a tryanical federal behemoth grown in scope and power beyond any possible conception that any of our founders could possibly have ever had, has been forever rendered null and void, (At least, this will be the case until some future court revisits this horrible mistake.) One thought struck me that I have not seen written or discussed anywhere else. Those five fine individuals, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayer, Kagan, and Roberts are in fact exempt from the consequences that they have deemed acceptable to be inflicted upon the rest of us. Again, the job of Supreme Court Justice is not bad work if you can get it.

Perhaps we should add a Constitutional Amendment which makes it illegal for any class of American, most especially federal bureaucrats and elected officials to be exempted from any law, like Social Security or Obamacare, that has been deemed good enough for you and me. If we fail to get this sucker repealed, 20 years from now, I want John Roberts to be visiting the same DMV style of office that I’ll need to visit for his hip replacement surgery, and have to fill out the very same forms pleading for his life to some bureaucrat who really could not care less if John Roberts lives or dies. I bet if he faced that prospect himself, he would have stopped this sucker dead in its tracks, just like the other four Justices would have.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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  1. Buffalobob
    1 | July 4, 2012 1:24 pm

    Case in point, Mayor (I know watt is best for you) Bloomberg presided over this years Conney Island NY Nathan’s Hot Dog eating contest yesterday. This grinning nitwit who is banning big drinks to reduce obesity is ok with placing his tacit approval of stuffing yourself with Hot Dogs until you explode.


  2. Da_Beerfreak
    2 | July 4, 2012 1:28 pm

    We’ve got nothing to worry about, the Country is in the very best of hands…

    The amazing number of people who know nothing about the health-care ruling :roll:

    We’re Doomed™ :evil:


  3. Bumr50
    3 | July 4, 2012 1:31 pm

    Harvard Law strikes again.


  4. pat
    4 | July 4, 2012 2:00 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    There is a great deal of truth about this. Most law schools in the nation attempt to point out how ill-informed the student is. They adopt a teaching technique that is archaic and requires vast amounts of knowledge outside of the case books. The Ivy League schools have an entirely different approach, starting with among the finest students in the nation, the heap praise upon the students. Constantly remind them that they will lead the nation. And grade according to how liberally enlightened one is. Extra points for Pacific Islanders, Blacks and Females. Secret points for Jews With Guilt Feelings. Less points for WASP males. Everybody gets an award. Multiple journals assure that even dolts can be on a law review.
    It is a disgrace.


  5. Da_Beerfreak
    5 | July 4, 2012 2:01 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Harvard Law strikes again.

    And again,
    and again,
    and again,
    and again…


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | July 4, 2012 2:13 pm

    the feds would never use drones without a warrant:

    DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Midwest ranchers have never been enamored with environmental regulators, but they really began to complain after learning that federal inspectors were flying over their land to look for problems.

    The Environmental Protection Agency flies over power plants and other facilities nationwide to identify potential air, water and land pollution. It began using aerial surveillance in the Midwest in 2010 to check farms for violations of federal clean water regulations.

    ‘to LOOK for problems…see in the eyes of the govt YOU are already guilty.


  7. Bumr50
    7 | July 4, 2012 2:17 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Looking for “revenue.”


  8. 8 | July 4, 2012 2:33 pm

    For those of you who live in Arizona, were it my coal burning power plant, I would just disconnect those transmission lines that headed off in a westerly direction and tell the residents who inhabit the land of the fruit and nut to stand under one of their windmills and blow really really hard.

    you mean like this? http://www.cafepress.com/kirly

    already thought of that a couple of years ago. :-)

    but, i think all the power comes from the Navajo Generating Station which the EPA has on the shut down list anyway. so, the libs in CA will get theirs in the end.


  9. 9 | July 4, 2012 2:40 pm

    OFF-TOPIC: Al-Jazeera (by way of USA Today) says Arafat died from Cream of Polonium Soup.
    ROFLMAIAO! They’ll NEVER be able to admit that he was buggering little boys and younger men. Bosch Fawstin is right: Islam IS teh ghey!


  10. The Osprey
    10 | July 4, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Time to break out the goose guns. Pull!

    Wasn’t it Charles Krauthammer who said the first farmer to down one of these things
    will be a national hero?


  11. 11 | July 4, 2012 3:06 pm

    An amazing bit of America

    NatGeo is showing a sort of the building of the grand canyon skywalk right now. i must get up there someday…when it doesn’t hurt to simply walk (grrrrr).


  12. Guggi
    12 | July 4, 2012 3:09 pm

    Chuck Woolery did it again :-)

    httpv://www.youtube.com/embed/KV-RqPtT2PU


  13. Guggi
    13 | July 4, 2012 3:09 pm

    Ooops


  14. Lily
    14 | July 4, 2012 3:18 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Don’t know if it was you are M…but obama not going to France on the 4th of July…this is the second time it was reported bho was going to do something and at the very last day or two SUDDENLY he isn’t going to be where he was reported to be…like Memorial Day…I think one time …well bad reporting two times in a row..the obama administration leaks information he will do something un-American and BAM…he isn’t going to be at the place he was reported to be. I think this was deliberate on a grand scale. If it happens a 3rd time I will stand by the obama election campagin of lying and then suddenly releasing something else.


  15. Lily
    15 | July 4, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Sorry to hear your knee still hurts to walk {kirly}…..give it some more time to heal. Prayers up for you. :)


  16. Lily
    16 | July 4, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ Lily:

    He really hates the media that doesn’t adore him. I think he hates more than he likes and his wife is an expert on hating.


  17. 17 | July 4, 2012 3:23 pm

    @ Lily:
    it wasn’t me.

    @ Lily:
    Thanks {Lily}. the surgery was a success and that recovery would be comeing along nicely except for this “Baker’s Cyst” thing. But, I got a compression brace which is helping. :-) Someday.


  18. 18 | July 4, 2012 3:25 pm

    whoa! it’s only 79 degrees here in Phoenix! 58% humidity ruins it all tho. heh. and it’s raining at my house… i can see the rain drops hitting the pool. :-)


  19. 19 | July 4, 2012 3:28 pm

    oooh, looks like we’re in for some storms until mid to late afternoon and then it should clear up for all the fireworks displays. if it clears up before sunset, you will find me in the pool. :-)


  20. Lily
    20 | July 4, 2012 3:30 pm

    @ Kirly:

    It was M then….but I do find the mis-information coming out of the White House leaking mis-information is sickening. As usual.

    Oh my another is jumping ship and not fainting. Good. As the summer rolls along I see more of them not going to the convention.

    Yet Another Democratic Congressman To Skip DNC Convention

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/04/yet-another-democratic-congressman-to-skip-dnc-convention/


  21. Lily
    21 | July 4, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Hot as heck here…me and hubby just going to have a lazy day….nothing on the schedule…last week was enough….
    Tomorrow my grandbaby turns 1 year old. Yeah!!!
    /still can’t believe I’m a grandmother (MiMi which means queenie in creole/cajun dialect according to my mother)! ;)


  22. Lily
    22 | July 4, 2012 3:38 pm

    Oh dear I have murdered another thread. Hmmmmm. Not good. ;)


  23. Lily
    23 | July 4, 2012 3:43 pm

    Oh my….well as one poster said “Call it an ObamaTax instead of Obamacare then…

    Top White House Adviser Valerie Jarrett: We’ll Take Obamacare As A Tax

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/04/top-white-house-adviser-valerie-jarrett-well-take-obamacare-as-a-tax/


  24. 24 | July 4, 2012 3:49 pm

    @ Lily:
    yep, that’s what i’m doing today too…lounging around, enjoying the unusually cool weather, and resting my leg with compression sleeve so that blister of knee juice is encouraged to dissipate.

    congrats on being a gramma!

    Lily wrote:

    Oh dear I have murdered another thread. Hmmmmm. Not good.

    naw, we got it all to ourselves!


  25. Calo
    25 | July 4, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Like hell you have this thread to yourselves.

    Creeps! :lol: (that was for you Kirlz)


  26. Lily
    26 | July 4, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ Kirly:

    We sure do have the threads all together. That cyst is called a “Bible cyst” here because you wack it with a bible and it goes away by busting the cyst. I had one on a nerve hurt as hell…didn’t have the nerve to wack it with a bible though. ;)


  27. Lily
    27 | July 4, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ Calo:

    {Calo}!!! Ah now we have a ladies thread! ;)
    /or if anyone messes with us dear ladies we whack-em thread.


  28. 28 | July 4, 2012 3:55 pm

    Calo wrote:

    Creeps! (that was for you Kirlz)

    Thank you! :-)


  29. Lily
    29 | July 4, 2012 3:55 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Yep and there is going to be another grandbaby in January. ;)


  30. Lily
    30 | July 4, 2012 3:57 pm

    Yep and please excuse my spelling…my fingers and mind are not working together today.
    /well everyday they don’t work well together.
    So I blame it on the keyborad…it’s a damn communist..I tell you!!!


  31. Calo
    31 | July 4, 2012 3:59 pm

    @ Lily:
    I’m crossing my fingers and toes that all goes well with this pregnancy.


  32. Calo
    32 | July 4, 2012 4:04 pm

    I don’t have any words to express my sadness about this post…

    http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/07/02/the-end-of-civilization/

    I will miss Bunk and wish him and his family well.
    The OOT will never be the same for me without him.


  33. Lily
    33 | July 4, 2012 4:05 pm

    Yep we are flying our American Flag today…and not burning it or have a obama flag…the obama’s think American are less than and detest the Flag so many have died for..so Mitt isn’t the perfect candidate..he has one quality that matters…he loves our country.
    The person now in the White House doesn’t.


    New Mitt Vid: The Best of America

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/04/new-mitt-vid-the-best-of-america/


  34. Lily
    35 | July 4, 2012 4:10 pm

    @ Calo:

    Oh my goodness…please, please let him know I will miss him and I hope he comes back when things settle down in the meat world. I will miss him a great deal.
    /please {Calo} pass that on for me. :(


  35. Lily
    36 | July 4, 2012 4:12 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Wow congratulations dorian!!!!! That is so great!!! Someone is reading you … :)
    /I confess I read your blog from time to time. ;)


  36. Lily
    37 | July 4, 2012 4:14 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I’m crossing my fingers and toes that all goes well with this pregnancy.

    You and me both…she is still not out of the clear. There is a blood clot next to the baby.


  37. 38 | July 4, 2012 4:17 pm

    Lily wrote:

    There is a blood clot next to the baby.

    isn’t there something that can be done? blood thinner??


  38. 39 | July 4, 2012 4:19 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Wow congratulations dorian!!!!! That is so great!!! Someone is reading you …
    /I confess I read your blog from time to time.

    Thank you, in the blogsphere it really is a very small milestone, but it is one that my blog has finally achieved. I am very appreciative of everyone who has stopped by over the years, my blog has been up since September 2009, nearly 3 years now. 95 posts, 265 comments and 25,000 page views later here we are… :grin:


  39. Lily
    40 | July 4, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ Kirly:

    No ….she just passed 3 months…if anything is done it may kill the baby ..the good thing is the blood clot is leaking and she is passing the blood..We will know more next week. I’m not sure but and would have to ask Calo maybe if the baby is bigger they could do something.
    Although there is the blood clot..the baby is healthy and doing fine.
    But they have told her…she could lose the baby still. So indeed crossing my fingers and saying my prayers.


  40. coldwarrior
    41 | July 4, 2012 4:22 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    There is a blood clot next to the baby.
    isn’t there something that can be done? blood thinner??

    not if there is a pregnancy involved.

    anti-coags are seriously contra-indicated during pregnancy


  41. Lily
    42 | July 4, 2012 4:26 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Just for you! And hopefully we will be singing this song in November too. ;)


  42. 43 | July 4, 2012 4:30 pm

    gosh Lily! I hope it all works out ok!

    coldwarrior -- i have a “Bakers Cyst”. very annoying. that was what the trip to the ER was for the other day -- they mimic blood clots in the leg apparently.


  43. Calo
    44 | July 4, 2012 4:31 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yes, anti-coags are not the correct treatment…

    But I don’t know enough about OB to have an opinion here.


  44. Lily
    45 | July 4, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ Calo:

    Neither do I…concerning this. She see’s a specilaist next week…will know more about it. But they have told her the signs of losing the baby and what to look for..so I’m not all that sure what will happen.


  45. gulfloafer
    46 | July 4, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Happy 4th of July! Yinz doin the bbq thing this year in teh Burgh?


  46. Lily
    47 | July 4, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ Kirly:

    I am very concerned if she loses the baby…she is a very emotional young lady. I just try to keep her spirits up while also keep her ready for the worst. That is not easy at all to do!!


  47. The Osprey
    48 | July 4, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ Kirly:

    It’s been a nice break from the 110+ temps we’ve had the past few weeks…


  48. 49 | July 4, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ Lily:
    aw. that would difficult for anyone. i hope the worst doesn’t happen.


  49. 50 | July 4, 2012 4:40 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    It’s been a nice break from the 110+ temps we’ve had the past few weeks…

    yes, it’s very pleasant. and rain in the desert is almost always needed. been gently raining all day here. not a typical monsoon at all.


  50. Lily
    51 | July 4, 2012 4:42 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ Lily:
    aw. that would difficult for anyone. i hope the worst doesn’t happen.

    You and me both. The one good thing here is she is passing blood which means the blood clot is leaking. That is the only good thing here that the doc’s have told her.


  51. heysoos
    52 | July 4, 2012 4:47 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Small personal milestone achieved today, 25,000 page view.

    DRINK!


  52. The Osprey
    53 | July 4, 2012 4:47 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    We sure do have the threads all together. That cyst is called a “Bible cyst” here because you wack it with a bible and it goes away by busting the cyst. I had one on a nerve hurt as hell…didn’t have the nerve to wack it with a bible though.

    “Heeee-uuuuul!”

    WHACK!


  53. The Osprey
    54 | July 4, 2012 4:48 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    It’s been a nice break from the 110+ temps we’ve had the past few weeks…

    yes, it’s very pleasant. and rain in the desert is almost always needed. been gently raining all day here. not a typical monsoon at all.

    Same thing here in Ahwatukee.


  54. Lily
    55 | July 4, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ Lily:

    I have no allusions that there is a good possibilty she could lose the baby. Prepare for the worst and hope and pray for the best. That is the situation. Period.


  55. Lily
    56 | July 4, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    :P


  56. heysoos
    57 | July 4, 2012 4:53 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I have no allusions that there is a good possibilty she could lose the baby. Prepare for the worst and hope and pray for the best. That is the situation. Period.

    my crystal ball tells me the baby and mom are going to be fine and right on schedule…worry not


  57. Calo
    58 | July 4, 2012 4:56 pm

    @ heysoos:
    haysoos, I agree with you.

    DRINK

    And, Happy Birthday America.


  58. Lily
    59 | July 4, 2012 4:57 pm

    @ heysoos:

    {hey} Thank-you very much. I have a good feeling things will turn out well…but I understand things could go the other way.
    That was very kind of you to say. I tell you if it isn’t one thing here it’s another.
    Got a black cloud it seems covering my family…so far it isn’t working…and that is good.


  59. Lily
    60 | July 4, 2012 5:00 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    haysoos, I agree with you.

    DRINK

    And, Happy Birthday America.

    {Calo} a double thank-you too. DRINK AND WAVE THE FLAG!!!!
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR GREAT COUNTRY and may it continue bust all attempts to break our country!!!! WE ARE STRONG!!!


  60. Calo
    61 | July 4, 2012 5:01 pm

    @ Lily:
    {{Lily}} Now you are hugging your nemesis.

    I’m just gonna laugh and say the name Possum to you.


  61. Dolphin
    62 | July 4, 2012 5:02 pm

    Posted on a trade earlier, but too good not to share and fits this post.

    Brisket due off the pit in about 45 minutes!

    Happy 4th!


  62. Lily
    63 | July 4, 2012 5:03 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Lily:
    {{Lily}} Now you are hugging your nemesis.

    I’m just gonna laugh and say the name Possum to you.

    Strange times huh? ;)


  63. coldwarrior
    64 | July 4, 2012 5:03 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yes, anti-coags are not the correct treatment…
    But I don’t know enough about OB to have an opinion here.

    just read the labels, they are almost all pregnancy category X


  64. coldwarrior
    65 | July 4, 2012 5:04 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    coldwarrior – i have a “Bakers Cyst”. very annoying. that was what the trip to the ER was for the other day – they mimic blood clots in the leg apparently.

    ah! now you know what was bugging you! that is half the battle.


  65. Lily
    66 | July 4, 2012 5:04 pm

    @ Lily:

    It is also the southern lady thing to do. :)


  66. coldwarrior
    67 | July 4, 2012 5:04 pm

    gulfloafer wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Happy 4th of July! Yinz doin the bbq thing this year in teh Burgh?

    we q’d last night. its too damn hot to be outside.


  67. Calo
    68 | July 4, 2012 5:06 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Agreed, let nature take its course.

    Are you off hospital/nsg orientation now?


  68. Lily
    69 | July 4, 2012 5:07 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Isn’t that the truth!!!
    Just a chill day! ;)


  69. Lily
    70 | July 4, 2012 5:12 pm

    @ Calo:

    Yep …. let nature take it’s course…
    /I think she understands this..because I have talked to her much to keep her from over-thinking this. One day at a time.


  70. Lily
    71 | July 4, 2012 5:16 pm

    GROAN! Really??????

    Obama-Worshipping Celebrity Chris Rock: Fourth Of July A Holiday For White People

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/04/obama-worshipping-celebrity-chris-rock-fourth-of-july-a-holiday-for-white-people/


  71. RIX
    72 | July 4, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ Lily:
    The one liners going through my mind would just
    be wrong.


  72. Lily
    73 | July 4, 2012 5:25 pm

    @ RIX:

    I have a couple myself.
    /racists on parade here from Chris Rock. I am surprised he didn’t say …no better not! ;)


  73. heysoos
    74 | July 4, 2012 5:27 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The one liners going through my mind would just
    be wrong.

    not mine…these cats are just as racist as any white person, but of course they get the nod…this racism shit has taken on an absurdity that will be unexplainable in the future, looking back


  74. 75 | July 4, 2012 5:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    GROAN! Really??????
    Obama-Worshipping Celebrity Chris Rock: Fourth Of July A Holiday For White People
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/04/obama-worshipping-celebrity-chris-rock-fourth-of-july-a-holiday-for-white-people/

    Racism is as endemic to African-Americans as their skin color is. Some might assert that such a statement on my part is a clear indication that I am a racist. The 2008 Presidential election where 99 percent of African-Americans voted for Barack Obama mocks that assertion. In the end, whether you love the truth or hate it makes no difference, the truth remains exactly what it is. 99 percent of African-Americans voted for Barack Obama, and they did so based on the color of his skin. That is the indisputable truth.


  75. darkwords
    76 | July 4, 2012 5:31 pm

    EEH -- Extreme Egyptian Hatred


  76. darkwords
    77 | July 4, 2012 5:35 pm

    @ 6 coldwarrior: I should think a corn farm should be able to declare itself aerial surveillance free. Unless someone asserts a criminal search warrant. creeping totalitarianism. THese are government officials who desire to make these decisions because it is the right thing to do. I rode an elevator with a few of them last week, they were trying to find a way around a law to enforce an agency goal on someone. These were low level government employees. So I assume this type of government corruption is rampant.


  77. darkwords
    78 | July 4, 2012 5:38 pm

    @ darkwords:Aerial surveillance I would approve of.
    1. Catching freeway speeders
    2. Tracking OJ
    3. Finding lost people
    4. Disaster coverage and assistance.
    5. Criminal warrants


  78. darkwords
    79 | July 4, 2012 5:42 pm

    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color. Everything they perceive is built on how they perceive skin color. Maybe it’s debris from the time of slavery, but they try and project this thought process out to society through racial and social justice programs.

    I never think about it unless someone makes a fuss about it. I could care less. But they also have a problem with that line of reasoning. lol.


  79. darkwords
    80 | July 4, 2012 5:44 pm

    @ 71 Lily: That is reason enough for someone to kick Chris Rock’s ass and see if the nation built on the fourth of July comes to his rescue. Or will he turn away help from white people because they imported a system of slavery created by black people in Africa.


  80. huckfunn
    81 | July 4, 2012 5:46 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ darkwords:Aerial surveillance I would approve of.
    1. Catching freeway speeders
    2. Tracking OJ
    3. Finding lost people
    4. Disaster coverage and assistance.
    5. Criminal warrants

    So what’s yer beef against freeway speeders?


  81. Lily
    82 | July 4, 2012 5:46 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    That is excatly what they did. They voted for skin color makes about as much sense as voting for someone because of the color of their hair.
    Yet they get a pass. Disgusting to the extreme.


  82. Lily
    83 | July 4, 2012 5:47 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I have to agree.


  83. 84 | July 4, 2012 5:47 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    EEH – Extreme Egyptian Hatred

    The Muslim National Anthem™ in play once again!


  84. darkwords
    85 | July 4, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ Dolphin:

    Romney, Rubio, West, Bolton, Palin,

    or Romeny, Bolton, West, Rubio, PALIN

    POTUS, VPOTUS, DEFENSE, STATE, INTERIOR

    I’d leave the position of UN Amabassafor unfilled


  85. Lily
    86 | July 4, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ darkwords:

    He needs to be whack with a parasol to be honest..he probably doesn’t even know the orgin of where the last name FREEMAN comes from. Not the civil war…that last name was before the civil war.


  86. darkwords
    87 | July 4, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….


  87. RIX
    88 | July 4, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ darkwords:

    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color.

    True light skin is referred to as High Yellow & occupies
    an elite status among many African Americans.
    It is big in Obamas world ie Rev Wright & Valarie Jarrett.


  88. Lily
    89 | July 4, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Bolton is already an adviser to Romney as it is right now. So it is already begun.


  89. darkwords
    90 | July 4, 2012 5:52 pm

    @ darkwords: DC to LA, Hwy WoR 101

    Wreck or Run 101


  90. Lily
    91 | July 4, 2012 5:52 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….

    Not me….too much speed on the highways..too many killed.


  91. coldwarrior
    92 | July 4, 2012 5:53 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Agreed, let nature take its course.
    Are you off hospital/nsg orientation now?

    officially, 5 more weeks to go…my unit is really tight with great teamwork, many hands make for light work. so i am learning very quickly.


  92. Lily
    93 | July 4, 2012 5:53 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ darkwords:

    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color.

    True light skin is referred to as High Yellow & occupies
    an elite status among many African Americans.
    It is big in Obamas world ie Rev Wright & Valarie Jarrett.

    Yep so true. But in Louisiana no big deal…mixed blood is the norm here.


  93. heysoos
    94 | July 4, 2012 5:54 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    darkwords wrote:
    @ darkwords:Aerial surveillance I would approve of.
    1. Catching freeway speeders
    2. Tracking OJ
    3. Finding lost people
    4. Disaster coverage and assistance.
    5. Criminal warrants

    So what’s yer beef against freeway speeders?

    yeah…whadaboutit?…I live in the South West…fuck the speed limits….I drive through land where the view doesn’t change in one hour at 100mph


  94. darkwords
    95 | July 4, 2012 5:54 pm

    @ 91 Lily: Well it would have to be a rule that it is ok to die on that autobahn. Lawsuit free. Wild Wild West of driving. I guess that is like that Grand Theft Auto game.


  95. coldwarrior
    96 | July 4, 2012 5:55 pm

    @ darkwords:

    we are all criminals operating ion an ever smaller box of compliance.

    we need serious de-regualtion.


  96. heysoos
    97 | July 4, 2012 5:56 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color.
    True light skin is referred to as High Yellow & occupies
    an elite status among many African Americans.
    It is big in Obamas world ie Rev Wright & Valarie Jarrett.

    New Orleans Caste System 101….status based on shades of color, way back in the day that is


  97. darkwords
    98 | July 4, 2012 5:56 pm

    @ heysoos: I’m on the crowded freeways full of little kids going to Fourth of July parties. We get a lot of 2 AM speeders after the bars close, going the wrong way while high. But I’ve also hit 120 in one of my old cars on the freeway. I got busted enough to see that I was a danger on the road but didn’t think I was.

    autobahn for what ails yah.


  98. Dolphin
    99 | July 4, 2012 5:57 pm

    @ darkwords:
    Can’t/wont argue with any of those picks!


  99. coldwarrior
    100 | July 4, 2012 5:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….

    Not me….too much speed on the highways..too many killed.

    i read a very interesting study about accidents. here what it proved, speed itself is not the main cause of accidents, the difference in speed between cars is the main cause.

    if everyone on the highway is going 100mph it is safer than if everyone is going 55 and one or two are going 80.


  100. Lily
    101 | July 4, 2012 5:58 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Agreed, let nature take its course.
    Are you off hospital/nsg orientation now?

    officially, 5 more weeks to go…my unit is really tight with great teamwork, many hands make for light work. so i am learning very quickly.

    That is great news to hear CW! :)


  101. coldwarrior
    102 | July 4, 2012 5:59 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 91 Lily: Well it would have to be a rule that it is ok to die on that autobahn. Lawsuit free. Wild Wild West of driving. I guess that is like that Grand Theft Auto game.

    i miss driving on the autobahn. quite the way to travel.


  102. huckfunn
    103 | July 4, 2012 5:59 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….

    We’ve got an autobahn. It’s called Interstate 10. There should be no speed limits on that highway between Junction and El Paso.


  103. heysoos
    104 | July 4, 2012 6:00 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ heysoos: I’m on the crowded freeways full of little kids going to Fourth of July parties. We get a lot of 2 AM speeders after the bars close, going the wrong way while high. But I’ve also hit 120 in one of my old cars on the freeway. I got busted enough to see that I was a danger on the road but didn’t think I was.
    autobahn for what ails yah.

    I-40 across the Texas panhandle is an autobahn as far as I’m concerned….that’s just one stretch….I don’t endanger fellow travelers, but I’m realistic and have a lead foot


  104. darkwords
    105 | July 4, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ 99 Dolphin: Watch Romney pick all old guys he knows from business or he owes favors to.


  105. Lily
    106 | July 4, 2012 6:00 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color.
    True light skin is referred to as High Yellow & occupies
    an elite status among many African Americans.
    It is big in Obamas world ie Rev Wright & Valarie Jarrett.

    New Orleans Caste System 101….status based on shades of color, way back in the day that is

    Oh indeed. And poor white trash were hired to get trees from the swamps…they would never risk the slaves to yellow fever.


  106. Guggi
    107 | July 4, 2012 6:02 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Maybe it’s debris from the time of slavery

    How many of the blacks of today are descendants of slaves and how many came to the U.S.A. later (20th century) ?


  107. 108 | July 4, 2012 6:02 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    We sure do have the threads all together. That cyst is called a “Bible cyst” here because you wack it with a bible and it goes away by busting the cyst. I had one on a nerve hurt as hell…didn’t have the nerve to wack it with a bible though.

    “Heeee-uuuuul!”

    WHACK!

    there will be no whackage! don’t make me go all indiana jones on you crazy Bible thumpers! :-) just kidding. but no whackage.


  108. coldwarrior
    109 | July 4, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ Lily:

    yeah, things are going pretty well.


  109. heysoos
    110 | July 4, 2012 6:03 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    darkwords wrote:
    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….

    We’ve got an autobahn. It’s called Interstate 10. There should be no speed limits on that highway between Junction and El Paso.

    there you have it…west of Odessa, you’re just floating along at whatever speed…when you can see 12 miles ahead of you with no cars at all, the temptation overwhelms me so I floor it….110-120


  110. Lily
    111 | July 4, 2012 6:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….

    Not me….too much speed on the highways..too many killed.

    I nearly got killed because I was keeping up with the speed of cars and I couldn’t see beyond a hill that traffic had come to a full stop, very luckily there was an exit off the freeway when I saw it or I would be dead today and so would one of my sons.

    i read a very interesting study about accidents. here what it proved, speed itself is not the main cause of accidents, the difference in speed between cars is the main cause.

    if everyone on the highway is going 100mph it is safer than if everyone is going 55 and one or two are going 80.


  111. RIX
    112 | July 4, 2012 6:04 pm

    A joke unrelated to anything,
    A society maven was planning an upscale dinner party
    at her pool.
    She commissioned a young artist to do a portrait depicting
    what Custer thought at the Little Big Horn.
    The Bbig night came & she introduced the artist to her
    guests , who removed the silk covering from the picture.
    To her horror the depiction was a kneeling cow with a
    halo over her head & a group of Native Americans having
    intercourse with her.
    The woman gasped, “What is the mening of this!”
    The artist cooly said,” You wanted it to show what Custer
    thought and I think that he thought Holy cow , look at
    all the fuckin Indians!”


  112. heysoos
    113 | July 4, 2012 6:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ darkwords:
    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color.
    True light skin is referred to as High Yellow & occupies
    an elite status among many African Americans.
    It is big in Obamas world ie Rev Wright & Valarie Jarrett.
    New Orleans Caste System 101….status based on shades of color, way back in the day that is

    Oh indeed. And poor white trash were hired to get trees from the swamps…they would never risk the slaves to yellow fever.

    mixed races had upward mobility while the white Irish were lower than snake poop….very interesting culture over there


  113. Lily
    114 | July 4, 2012 6:06 pm

    @ Kirly:

    I hear you…I didn’t do the whackage either. ;)


  114. Lily
    115 | July 4, 2012 6:07 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    darkwords wrote:
    @ huckfunn: I’m for an autobahn….

    We’ve got an autobahn. It’s called Interstate 10. There should be no speed limits on that highway between Junction and El Paso.

    there you have it…west of Odessa, you’re just floating along at whatever speed…when you can see 12 miles ahead of you with no cars at all, the temptation overwhelms me so I floor it….110-120

    Until an animal bolts right in your way.


  115. heysoos
    116 | July 4, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ Lily:
    pink mist….coyotes can’t even live out there


  116. Lily
    117 | July 4, 2012 6:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ darkwords:
    @ 75 doriangrey: There is a certain type of black sub culture where they have a fetish about skin color.
    True light skin is referred to as High Yellow & occupies
    an elite status among many African Americans.
    It is big in Obamas world ie Rev Wright & Valarie Jarrett.
    New Orleans Caste System 101….status based on shades of color, way back in the day that is

    Oh indeed. And poor white trash were hired to get trees from the swamps…they would never risk the slaves to yellow fever.

    mixed races had upward mobility while the white Irish were lower than snake poop….very interesting culture over there

    Wasn’t just the white Irish..any poor white person was at the bottom of the ladder in that caste system.


  117. RIX
    118 | July 4, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ heysoos:

    New Orleans Caste System 101….status based on shades of color, way back in the day that is

    Yup, it’s been around a long time.


  118. darkwords
    119 | July 4, 2012 6:13 pm

    @ 107 Guggi: Black people I met from Nigeria and Jamaica seem to have pretty strong work ethics and family values. The Somali muslims are actually pretty nice people but they all moved into the cheap gang areas here and the drugs are eating their kids up.

    As a society we have victim groups that have a vested interest in looking backwards and trying to continually inject failure into the growth of the country. Get caught up in that and become a victim by immersion. And there is a perverse psychology about that suggests to people that this is a good thing to do. Versus looking ahead and assessing ones own problems and creating some individual liberty and free choices for ones self. People have done that in the worst of times. Much worse than slavery.


  119. heysoos
    120 | July 4, 2012 6:14 pm

    @ Lily:
    I just picked them off the top…there are records of Irish selling themselves to ‘people of color’ as indentured servants….NOLA has a very robust history


  120. darkwords
    121 | July 4, 2012 6:14 pm

    @ heysoos: lol


  121. darkwords
    122 | July 4, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ heysoos: There was a documentary on slavery where plantations would hire the Irish to do the most dangerous jobs. And it was to protect their investment in slaves.


  122. heysoos
    123 | July 4, 2012 6:20 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ heysoos: There was a documentary on slavery where plantations would hire the Irish to do the most dangerous jobs. And it was to protect their investment in slaves.

    yup, the Irish really took a beating…if they didn’t move into organized crime, they certainly got into law enforcement, hence the legacy of the Irish cop in Philly, NYC etc…it gave them security and a sense of authority…to this day a huge % of NYC (and fire fighters) cops are Irish


  123. Lily
    124 | July 4, 2012 6:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I just picked them off the top…there are records of Irish selling themselves to ‘people of color’ as indentured servants….NOLA has a very robust history

    Not just New Orleans basically the whole southern part of Louisiana and especially along the Mississippi River. There were black plantation owners too who had slaves…very different history here. Very.


  124. Lily
    125 | July 4, 2012 6:22 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ heysoos: There was a documentary on slavery where plantations would hire the Irish to do the most dangerous jobs. And it was to protect their investment in slaves.

    Not just the Irish..any white poor person looking for work.


  125. heysoos
    126 | July 4, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ Lily:
    I’m a cultural traveler…all that stuff interests me, but LA is chock full of cultural twists and turns….it ain’t exactly Iowa


  126. heysoos
    127 | July 4, 2012 6:25 pm

    there is no such thing as a po boy in New Mexico


  127. Lily
    128 | July 4, 2012 6:26 pm

    @ heysoos:

    No and you didn’t even mention the pirates!!! Good heavens Louisiana history is something else..maybe that is why we are a bit different. ;)
    /only state that has parishes instead of counties too.


  128. heysoos
    129 | July 4, 2012 6:27 pm

    man, I’m getting an urge here…the Gulf beckons…I love the deep south


  129. Guggi
    130 | July 4, 2012 6:30 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    As a society we have victim groups that have a vested interest in looking backwards and trying to continually inject failure into the growth of the country. Get caught up in that and become a victim by immersion. And there is a perverse psychology about that suggests to people that this is a good thing to do.

    That’s exact how the ideology of the lefties works and it is only the other side of the racism coin. Pascal Bruckner wrote a very fine essay about this: Le Sanglot de l’homme blanc (the sobbing of the white man).


  130. heysoos
    131 | July 4, 2012 6:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    No and you didn’t even mention the pirates!!! Good heavens Louisiana history is something else..maybe that is why we are a bit different.
    /only state that has parishes instead of counties too.

    well, I’ve partied at Lafittes in the Quarter more than once…interesting character, my sort of guy…the gentleman pirate


  131. RIX
    132 | July 4, 2012 6:32 pm

    @ Lily:
    The last time that I was in new Orleans it was this
    past Holloween.
    We went to the parade & had a great time.
    The next morning they reported the body count,
    five shot dead in a gang shooting a couple of hours
    after we left.


  132. Lily
    133 | July 4, 2012 6:32 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Stay in Baton Rouge and tour River Road and then go to St.Francisville….man oh man what a ton of history and beauty.
    You can easily stay in Baton Rouge and not have to stay in St. Francisville since it is so close to both River Road and St. Francisville.
    Eat at the resturatant at Nottoway Plantation the food is to die for.
    Not to mention Nottoway is a work of art.
    Plus if you wish you can actually stay at the Plantations overnight.


  133. Lily
    134 | July 4, 2012 6:34 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The last time that I was in new Orleans it was this
    past Holloween.
    We went to the parade & had a great time.
    The next morning they reported the body count,
    five shot dead in a gang shooting a couple of hours
    after we left.

    The crime in New Orleans is AWFUL….that is why if you really want to see the sights is stay in Baton Rouge….so close to River Road and tons of other areas.


  134. heysoos
    135 | July 4, 2012 6:36 pm

    @ Lily:
    next time I go over there I’ll get some tips from you..I’m familiar with BR, Slidell, Lafayette, Houma etc but as an outsider…I’ve been treated damn well down there…I’m humble and eager and those folks seem to love that in a tourists….I am definitely getting amped up with this discussion


  135. Lily
    136 | July 4, 2012 6:37 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    No and you didn’t even mention the pirates!!! Good heavens Louisiana history is something else..maybe that is why we are a bit different.
    /only state that has parishes instead of counties too.

    well, I’ve partied at Lafittes in the Quarter more than once…interesting character, my sort of guy…the gentleman pirate

    He mainly stayed closer to where I am…Jean LaFitte a whole other area of history. The bridge that crosses Lake Charles has pistols as ornaments on the sides which is directly do to the history of Jean LaFitte.


  136. Lily
    137 | July 4, 2012 6:38 pm

    @ heysoos:

    We are polite to the core and have never met a stranger. ;)


  137. RIX
    138 | July 4, 2012 6:39 pm

    @ Lily:

    The crime in New Orleans is AWFUL….that is why if you really want to see the sights is stay in Baton Rouge….so close to River Road and tons of other areas.

    Things get a little dicey off of the French Quarter at night.
    The shame of it is, the parade was terrific & everybody
    had a good time.
    I do like New Orleans, but like other places , you
    can’t get foolish


  138. Lily
    139 | July 4, 2012 6:43 pm

    @ RIX:

    They have a new mayor and they are trying to clean up the crime…but New Orleans has been corrupt for a long time. But yeah stay in the French Quarter and if you don’t make sure you are with a Native of New Orleans.


  139. heysoos
    140 | July 4, 2012 6:46 pm

    @ Lily:
    Lake Charles is out there, don’t think I’ve ever come into NOLA from that way…maybe that’s where Lafittes ‘treasure’ is located


  140. RIX
    141 | July 4, 2012 6:46 pm

    @ Lily:
    I stayed at the Embassy Suites & did walk back.
    Not a real good idea.


  141. Lily
    142 | July 4, 2012 6:48 pm

    @ RIX:

    When Katrina hit…so many people did not understand New Orleans people…they called them dumb. No. The levies broke and the corrupt police department couldn’t handle it and the corrupt mayor couldn’t handle and our govenor was stuck on stupid. But who cleaned it up ..why a Louisiana man General Russel Honore’ a native Louisianian.


  142. heysoos
    143 | July 4, 2012 6:49 pm

    @ RIX:
    the Quarter is what it is…my second or third visit, I was armed, but I dropped that for Jazz Fest…depending on clothing, I’m usually armed when I visit DC too


  143. Lily
    144 | July 4, 2012 6:50 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Why you are missing so much. I-10 is that bridge on.


  144. Lily
    145 | July 4, 2012 6:51 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I stayed at the Embassy Suites & did walk back.
    Not a real good idea.

    No not a good idea.


  145. Lily
    146 | July 4, 2012 6:52 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Lake Charles is out there, don’t think I’ve ever come into NOLA from that way…maybe that’s where Lafittes ‘treasure’ is located

    So they say. ;)


  146. Lily
    147 | July 4, 2012 6:53 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Lake Charles is just this side of Texas…if you are traveling I-10 you would have to go through it.


  147. heysoos
    148 | July 4, 2012 6:54 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    They have a new mayor and they are trying to clean up the crime…but New Orleans has been corrupt for a long time. But yeah stay in the French Quarter and if you don’t make sure you are with a Native of New Orleans.

    I always stay at the St Charles on Canal and St Charles…they always take good car of my car


  148. 149 | July 4, 2012 6:56 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ RIX:
    the Quarter is what it is…my second or third visit, I was armed, but I dropped that for Jazz Fest…depending on clothing, I’m usually armed when I visit DC too

    You get busted carrying in DC and you’re toast…


  149. heysoos
    150 | July 4, 2012 6:56 pm

    @ Lily:
    the next time I visit I will probably be coming across on I-10 all the way from NM


  150. Lily
    151 | July 4, 2012 6:58 pm

    @ heysoos:

    All the times I have stayed in New Orleans I haven’t had any problems.
    The 9th Ward is certainly a place you stay away from if you are an outsider..and I would be considered an outsider because I’m not from New Orleans. It’s the poor part of New Orleans and even people who live in New Orleans stay away from there.


  151. heysoos
    152 | July 4, 2012 6:59 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    @ RIX:
    the Quarter is what it is…my second or third visit, I was armed, but I dropped that for Jazz Fest…depending on clothing, I’m usually armed when I visit DC too
    You get busted carrying in DC and you’re toast…

    whatever…I’ve tromped around DC many’s the time armed, and my buddies from VA/NC too….when you have three armed men and their wives that want to visit the Mall at 1am, we are just gonna do it…fuck the law


  152. Lily
    153 | July 4, 2012 6:59 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Okay I see why .. we are very deep south. Just about as deep as you can get before you are in the Gulf of Mexico.


  153. Calo
    154 | July 4, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ heysoos:
    :LOL:

    The South welcomes anyone -- even us folks from LA, CA.


  154. heysoos
    155 | July 4, 2012 7:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    All the times I have stayed in New Orleans I haven’t had any problems.
    The 9th Ward is certainly a place you stay away from if you are an outsider..and I would be considered an outsider because I’m not from New Orleans. It’s the poor part of New Orleans and even people who live in New Orleans stay away from there.

    I’ve never had one lick of problem in the Quarter, whether with just my wife or with a group…but I know bad stuff is out there


  155. Bagua's Ghost
    156 | July 4, 2012 7:02 pm

    Driving by and just had to say;

    coldwarrior wrote:

    we are all criminals operating ion an ever smaller box of compliance.

    we need serious de-regualtion.

    Spot On!


  156. Lily
    157 | July 4, 2012 7:02 pm

    @ Calo:

    {{{Calo}}}!!! :)


  157. Lost
    158 | July 4, 2012 7:03 pm

    Heya, Mates!
    Happy Forth of July!
    (Remembering all that is right with our country)


  158. Bagua's Ghost
    159 | July 4, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Don’t forget me if you take a Gulf Trip. Mi casa su casa.


  159. Lily
    160 | July 4, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Neither have I …but there is bad thing there…the French Quarter is a tourist attraction so it is more heavily policed.


  160. heysoos
    161 | July 4, 2012 7:05 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    :LOL:
    The South welcomes anyone – even us folks from LA, CA.

    like anywhere else, you take the pits and wrinkles…I don’t hate any place or anybody regardless of politics…talking typical folks here, not the KKK


  161. Bagua's Ghost
    162 | July 4, 2012 7:05 pm

    Calo wrote:

    Calo
    154 | July 4, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ heysoos:
    :LOL:

    The South welcomes anyone – even us folks from LA, CA.
    reply | quo

    Even us folks who aren’t really sure where we’re from.


  162. Lily
    163 | July 4, 2012 7:05 pm

    @ Lost:

    Back at ya {lost}!!! HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!!!! :)


  163. Lily
    164 | July 4, 2012 7:06 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    Calo
    154 | July 4, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ heysoos:
    :LOL:

    The South welcomes anyone – even us folks from LA, CA.
    reply | quo

    Even us folks who aren’t really sure where we’re from.

    That’s the beauty of the South…salt of the earth! ;)


  164. heysoos
    165 | July 4, 2012 7:07 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Don’t forget me if you take a Gulf Trip. Mi casa su casa.

    bro!…I might need someone to ride shotgun


  165. Calo
    166 | July 4, 2012 7:07 pm

    @ Bagua’s Ghost:
    You couldn’t be a Southern gentleman?

    You are my man of mystery, damnit Bagua!


  166. Lost
    167 | July 4, 2012 7:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Lost:
    Back at ya {lost}!!! HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!!!!

    {Lily} Long time, no speak!
    How are you?


  167. coldwarrior
    168 | July 4, 2012 7:10 pm

    Lost wrote:

    Heya, Mates!
    Happy Forth of July!
    (Remembering all that is right with our country)

    hey! its our ex-pat from oz!

    happy 4th!


  168. Bagua's Ghost
    169 | July 4, 2012 7:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    bro!…I might need someone to ride shotgun

    Shotgun, AK, 9mm, and a back-up. I like versatility.


  169. Lily
    170 | July 4, 2012 7:11 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Bagua’s Ghost:
    You couldn’t be a Southern gentleman?

    You are my man of mystery, damnit Bagua!

    Maybe he is Jean LaFitte born again! ;) The old gentleman southern pirate!


  170. Lost
    171 | July 4, 2012 7:12 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lost wrote:
    Heya, Mates!
    Happy Forth of July!
    (Remembering all that is right with our country)

    hey! its our ex-pat from oz!
    happy 4th!

    :) And how is our medicine man and daddy of 3 beauties doing?


  171. Bagua's Ghost
    172 | July 4, 2012 7:12 pm

    Calo wrote:

    You couldn’t be a Southern gentleman?

    You are my man of mystery, damnit Bagua!

    Been called many things in years on this earth, but never a gentleman as I can recall.


  172. Lily
    173 | July 4, 2012 7:12 pm

    @ Lost:

    Doing alright! And you? Hope life is treating you well! :)


  173. heysoos
    174 | July 4, 2012 7:13 pm

    you can visit Columbus or Omaha and they are really nice towns…clean, relatively safe, friendly…but towns like that are so mundane, they don’t have any juice, historically and culturally…not the flash or style the vibe you get from NOLA or San Antonio where cultures have mixed and morphed into something more unique…and btw, Columbus is a really great city….it has it all


  174. coldwarrior
    175 | July 4, 2012 7:15 pm

    Lost wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Lost wrote:
    Heya, Mates!
    Happy Forth of July!
    (Remembering all that is right with our country)
    hey! its our ex-pat from oz!
    happy 4th!

    And how is our medicine man and daddy of 3 beauties doing?

    no worries!


  175. heysoos
    176 | July 4, 2012 7:15 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    bro!…I might need someone to ride shotgun

    Shotgun, AK, 9mm, and a back-up. I like versatility.

    cool, you be the muscle and I’ll be wheeleman…
    rock and roll!…get in, do the thing, get out


  176. Lily
    177 | July 4, 2012 7:15 pm

    @ heysoos:

    You forget Baton Rouge and other towns here in Louisiana…even some of the small towns are history brought alive.


  177. Lost
    178 | July 4, 2012 7:16 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Lost:
    Doing alright! And you? Hope life is treating you well!

    Same. Life is just so busy, I rarely get time to comment but I do fly by here every so often. I’ve been catching up on the ‘blog goss’ this morning. No Bunk but a few nics I don’t recognize. And Lily is as gracious as ever!


  178. Calo
    179 | July 4, 2012 7:16 pm

    @ Bagua’s Ghost:

    Correct -- last thing I think I called you was an ass.

    Water under the bridge…

    I hope.


  179. Lily
    180 | July 4, 2012 7:18 pm

    @ Lost:

    Awwwww {{{lost}}} how sweet. There will always be Lily here unless the blog owners have had enough of her! ;)


  180. heysoos
    181 | July 4, 2012 7:19 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Bagua’s Ghost:
    Correct – last thing I think I called you was an ass.
    Water under the bridge…
    I hope.

    you actually called Bags an ass?
    here here
    DRINK!


  181. Lily
    182 | July 4, 2012 7:19 pm

    @ Lost:

    Baby doing well too? I bet you are very busy!!!!!!


  182. rain of lead
    183 | July 4, 2012 7:19 pm

    hey ya’ll
    need help picking a movie
    war/historical/western

    any ideas
    (got too many choices on vudu)


  183. coldwarrior
    184 | July 4, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    the wild geese!


  184. Lily
    185 | July 4, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Calo has street cred now!!! :)
    /which means don’t mess with her. ;)


  185. heysoos
    186 | July 4, 2012 7:21 pm

    @ Lily:
    I didn’t forget, I just grabbed town along the way for color…and I admit, Omaha is a real fine town, believe it or not….tons of good food


  186. rain of lead
    187 | July 4, 2012 7:23 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    no got in vudu’s list :(


  187. Lost
    188 | July 4, 2012 7:23 pm

    @ Lily:
    Amen!
    @ Lily:
    Indeed. We moved house. I went back to work. I went to the states with 2 of them for my sisters wedding (just got back on the 27th). Now we have 2 weeks of school holidays and I’m starting solids with the 6 month old whilst toilet training the almost 3 year old. Busy, it is!


  188. coldwarrior
    189 | July 4, 2012 7:24 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    no got in vudu’s list

    too bad, one of my favorite movies right there.


  189. Lily
    190 | July 4, 2012 7:24 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    BLACK HAWK DOWN
    /most excellent even if you have seen it before.

    Or…you can go with BAND OF BROTHERS
    /most excellent too.


  190. Lost
    191 | July 4, 2012 7:25 pm

    Where’s Rodan?

    Hi Calo! (sorry to interrupt)


  191. Calo
    192 | July 4, 2012 7:26 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Don’t ask -- he is a very polite man.


  192. Lily
    193 | July 4, 2012 7:26 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Been there. Brother was stationed there for several years when he was in the Air Force. Nice City. ;)


  193. Lost
    194 | July 4, 2012 7:26 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    1776


  194. Bagua's Ghost
    195 | July 4, 2012 7:27 pm

    Calo wrote:

    Correct – last thing I think I called you was an ass.

    Water under the bridge…

    I hope.

    Can’t remember, but yes, that’s one of my given names, usually with the word ‘hole’ and ‘stupid’ attached. I’ve earned that name, like an Indian war name.

    But gentleman? Never! I’d find that offensive.


  195. heysoos
    196 | July 4, 2012 7:27 pm

    @ Lily:
    Blackhawk Down was flat out awesome…maybe the best combat film ever


  196. Lily
    197 | July 4, 2012 7:28 pm

    @ Lost:

    Oh my goodness!!! You are BUSY! May God send angels to help you! :)


  197. heysoos
    198 | July 4, 2012 7:29 pm

    winds kicking up, temps are dropping….
    looks like it might rain on my head…
    a once or twice a year phenom


  198. huckfunn
    199 | July 4, 2012 7:29 pm

    Lily wrote:

    That’s the beauty of the South…salt of the earth!


  199. 200 | July 4, 2012 7:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    @ RIX:
    the Quarter is what it is…my second or third visit, I was armed, but I dropped that for Jazz Fest…depending on clothing, I’m usually armed when I visit DC too
    You get busted carrying in DC and you’re toast…
    whatever…I’ve tromped around DC many’s the time armed, and my buddies from VA/NC too….when you have three armed men and their wives that want to visit the Mall at 1am, we are just gonna do it…fuck the law

    Well, fine attitude and all that, but just remember the price if you do get caught. Lorton is reputedly not very nice…


  200. heysoos
    201 | July 4, 2012 7:30 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Don’t ask – he is a very polite man.

    we go back a ways….Bags is a good guy


  201. rain of lead
    202 | July 4, 2012 7:30 pm

    found one thanks

    me and the girl are gonna watch Independance day


  202. Lily
    203 | July 4, 2012 7:31 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    Correct – last thing I think I called you was an ass.

    Water under the bridge…

    I hope.

    Can’t remember, but yes, that’s one of my given names, usually with the word ‘hole’ and ‘stupid’ attached. I’ve earned that name, like an Indian war name.

    But gentleman? Never! I’d find that offensive.

    :lol: Sorry hubby has already cornered A-1 asshole…yes he admits it. ;)
    /but he is sweet as apple pie to me. :)


  203. rain of lead
    204 | July 4, 2012 7:31 pm

    @ Lost:

    THAT is one I was trying to remember
    thanks


  204. Bagua's Ghost
    205 | July 4, 2012 7:32 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    Well, fine attitude and all that, but just remember the price if you do get caught. Lorton is reputedly not very nice…

    I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

    Words to live by.


  205. heysoos
    206 | July 4, 2012 7:33 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Mike C. wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    @ RIX:
    the Quarter is what it is…my second or third visit, I was armed, but I dropped that for Jazz Fest…depending on clothing, I’m usually armed when I visit DC too
    You get busted carrying in DC and you’re toast…
    whatever…I’ve tromped around DC many’s the time armed, and my buddies from VA/NC too….when you have three armed men and their wives that want to visit the Mall at 1am, we are just gonna do it…fuck the law
    Well, fine attitude and all that, but just remember the price if you do get caught. Lorton is reputedly not very nice…

    I’ve risked the law for far more drastic offenses…I get your point tho, and it’s good advice especially at my age…I used to pursue conflict, now I avoid it…old age I guess


  206. Lily
    207 | July 4, 2012 7:34 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    {huck} good one! :)


  207. Lost
    208 | July 4, 2012 7:35 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    No problem! It’s one of my favorites.
    /(Had a bad crush on John Adams)


  208. Lost
    209 | July 4, 2012 7:37 pm

    Off to get the baby weighted. I’ll be back for the night thread, if there is anyone sober enough to be on it!


  209. huckfunn
    210 | July 4, 2012 7:37 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    {huck} good one!

    That’s really one of my Stones favs. And Happy Independence Day to you, {Lily}. :wink:


  210. Lily
    211 | July 4, 2012 7:38 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Right back at you too {huck}!! :)


  211. huckfunn
    212 | July 4, 2012 7:39 pm

    Lost wrote:

    Off to get the baby weighted.

    So he/she won’t float? Here… wot’s all this?


  212. Bagua's Ghost
    213 | July 4, 2012 7:40 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I’ve risked the law for far more drastic offenses…I get your point tho, and it’s good advice especially at my age…I used to pursue conflict, now I avoid it…old age I guess

    Me too, mellowed with age also.

    Never liked to pursue conflict, rather I like to wait for it in the closed with a baseball bat. I like the element of surprise.


  213. Bagua's Ghost
    214 | July 4, 2012 7:41 pm

    *closet


  214. Lily
    215 | July 4, 2012 7:44 pm

    @ Bagua’s Ghost:

    If a parasol will not work I have found the sound of clicking a shot-gun whether armed or empty works very well.


  215. Bagua's Ghost
    216 | July 4, 2012 7:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Sorry hubby has already cornered A-1 asshole…yes he admits it.

    /but he is sweet as apple pie to me.

    As long as he’s nice to you {Lily}, he’s safe from me.


  216. Lily
    217 | July 4, 2012 7:45 pm

    @ Lily:

    If empty works as well as a baseball bat too.


  217. heysoos
    218 | July 4, 2012 7:46 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I’ve risked the law for far more drastic offenses…I get your point tho, and it’s good advice especially at my age…I used to pursue conflict, now I avoid it…old age I guess

    Me too, mellowed with age also.
    Never liked to pursue conflict, rather I like to wait for it in the closed with a baseball bat. I like the element of surprise.

    brawl…heh
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=gL9rUIAv9H8


  218. Lily
    219 | July 4, 2012 7:46 pm

    @ Bagua’s Ghost:

    Well how nice {Bagua}! He would never abuse me, ever. :)


  219. Lily
    220 | July 4, 2012 7:51 pm

    Well time for me to go…HAPPY 4TH OF JULY everyone…and may you all have a wonderful evening. :)

    /not to mention I think I’ve killed the thread again….so I better be going. ;)


  220. Bagua's Ghost
    221 | July 4, 2012 7:53 pm

    Lily wrote:

    If a parasol will not work I have found the sound of clicking a shot-gun whether armed or empty works very well.

    Just human nature, I suppose, something about looking down the barrel is very calming. Better than Valium.

    True story; I once had an enraged man running at me waving a crow bar over his head. I dropped to my right knee and a snub nosed .38 revolver appeared in my hand pointed at his chest. He calmed down right quick, became a real gentleman.

    Like a lamb really. It was like therapy for him.


  221. 222 | July 4, 2012 8:39 pm

    everyone out watching fireworks?

    it’s still light here. i’m watching The Patriot. No matter how crazy Mel Gibson was/is/might be in the future, this is a pretty good movie.


  222. heysoos
    223 | July 4, 2012 8:48 pm

    @ Kirly:
    I got a box of 12g trap loads…I shoot them into my barn…fun


  223. heysoos
    224 | July 4, 2012 8:51 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    everyone out watching fireworks?
    it’s still light here. i’m watching The Patriot. No matter how crazy Mel Gibson was/is/might be in the future, this is a pretty good movie.

    it is, but not nearly as good as ‘Last Of The Mohicans’…the rescue scene at the end is epic


  224. 225 | July 4, 2012 8:53 pm

    @ heysoos:
    sounds like it might mess up your barn. but, it is your barn. have a blast! (no pun intended there)


  225. 226 | July 4, 2012 8:54 pm

    @ heysoos:
    yeah, Last of the Mohicans is terrific!


  226. heysoos
    227 | July 4, 2012 8:59 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    sounds like it might mess up your barn. but, it is your barn. have a blast! (no pun intended there)

    it’s mostly noise, but I dig the sound, it doesn’t hurt anything


  227. heysoos
    228 | July 4, 2012 9:01 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    yeah, Last of the Mohicans is terrific!

    it’s the music, combined with the violence is epic


  228. 229 | July 4, 2012 9:01 pm

    @ heysoos:
    well then, it’s a win-win for ya!


  229. Lost
    230 | July 4, 2012 9:04 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    LOL! PIMF!


  230. heysoos
    231 | July 4, 2012 9:04 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    well then, it’s a win-win for ya!

    these cats here in New Mexico really dig their fireworks…lots of big booms all over town…a few rounds out the Stoeger doesn’t account for much


  231. 232 | July 4, 2012 9:09 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Kirly wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    yeah, Last of the Mohicans is terrific!

    it’s the music, combined with the violence is epic

    agreed. there is some amazing music out there in soundtracks.


  232. 233 | July 4, 2012 9:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    these cats here in New Mexico really dig their fireworks…lots of big booms all over town…a few rounds out the Stoeger doesn’t account for much

    nothing here in phoenix yet. clouds never fully cleared out either.


  233. 234 | July 4, 2012 9:12 pm

    @ Kirly:

    I finally saw The Patriot a couple of nights ago on Netflix. Very impressive!


  234. 235 | July 4, 2012 9:14 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    me and the girl are gonna watch Independance day

    That’s the movie where OS 8 Saves The World, isn’t it. 8)


  235. 236 | July 4, 2012 9:17 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    I finally saw The Patriot a couple of nights ago on Netflix. Very impressive!

    There for a few years, I watched it every Independence Day.


  236. AZfederalist
    237 | July 4, 2012 9:22 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    Like a lamb really. It was like therapy for him.

    :twisted: That made me smile


  237. coldwarrior
    238 | July 4, 2012 9:34 pm

    OOT is up, yinz!


  238. rain of lead
    239 | July 4, 2012 9:55 pm

    Macker wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:

    me and the girl are gonna watch Independance day

    That’s the movie where OS 8 Saves The World, isn’t it.

    love that movie
    have to overlook the glaring plot holes and just enjoy


  239. 240 | July 4, 2012 10:01 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Kirly wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    well then, it’s a win-win for ya!

    these cats here in New Mexico really dig their fireworks…lots of big booms all over town…a few rounds out the Stoeger doesn’t account for much

    In a couple hours after it get dark, round bout these parts, the dude up the street from me will probable roll his M60A1 out of the barn and start sending 105mm parade rounds down range. He usual kicks about 4 or 5 of them off one the 4th.


  240. 241 | July 4, 2012 10:03 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:
    me and the girl are gonna watch Independance day
    That’s the movie where OS 8 Saves The World, isn’t it.
    love that movie
    have to overlook the glaring plot holes and just enjoy

    What glaring plot holes? Hasn’t anyone ever explained to you that you cannot have glaring plot hole unless you first have something that at least vaguely resembles a plot… :twisted:


  241. huckfunn
    242 | July 4, 2012 10:05 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    I finally saw The Patriot a couple of nights ago on Netflix. Very impressive!

    Kirly wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    I finally saw The Patriot a couple of nights ago on Netflix. Very impressive!

    There for a few years, I watched it every Independence Day.

    Great movie. BraveFart comes to America. :grin:


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