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Finding Out What’s In It: Part Eleventy And Why They Want To Move Forward From Here.

by Flyovercountry ( 46 Comments › )
Filed under Health Care, Politics, Progressives, Socialism at July 19th, 2012 - 8:00 am

Way back during the debate phase of the Health Care debacle, the cost of this monstrosity which has as its sole purpose, to destroy our insurance industry and to subjugate our entire medical delivery system to the control of bureaucrats, was bandied about. One of the knocks against a new entitlement being implemented in a nation that was undergoing a financial crisis, (which we are still experiencing by the way,) was that we simply could not afford it.

We were assured by our President, who was still at that time at least pretending to be fiscally responsible, (he is still making that claim today as well,) that this new entitlement, would be the first in human history to actually save money as far as our national budget was concerned. Take all the time you need to finish laughing. Of course, when the CBO scored the bill, it came to that supportive conclusion as well, but they also took the step to warn Americans that their conclusion was deeply flawed, as the language of the bill, as well as the assumptions made with the bill’s financial components were at best erroneous. One of the many financial lies contained within the CBO’s estimate was the small fact that a full 10 years of taxation collected was being scored against 7 years of benefits being paid. Each and every time this baby behemoth has celebrated a birthday so far, that CBO estimate of its impact upon our federal budget has changed, by comparing an increasing number of years of benefits to the same 10 years of taxation. As you might expect, by 2014, when we are comparing 10 years to 10 years, it will no longer look as rosy as when we were comparing 7 years to 10. If that seems confusing, take a peek at the chart below, it will put it all in perspective.

Bear in mind that this chart represents only the effect of adding more years to the benefits side of the equation, and not at all the natural tendency of escalating costs usually associated with entitlements and government run bureaucracies. I’m positive that if this sink hole of a law is allowed to stand, being the largest baby entitlement ever conceived of, once it grows, it will bankrupt our country with ease.

After the Supreme Court gave us its bizarre ruling we had the single dumbest national debate on whether a tax was a tax or a penalty. Every Democrat and his brother were racing to banks of microphones to announce that we should just give up the fight already and move forward to tackle the pressing issues of the day.

To those people I say this. This is a pressing issue of today. Repealing the Obamacare law is an imperative. The Supreme Court ruled against the Constitution being a document which protected citizens from the tyrannical overreach of government. They did not issue a statement which said that the law was a good thing. Laws can be overturned electorally. The other side wishes that we just move forward because they know that the American people want nothing to do with this law. They know that if this law becomes an issue for this election, as it did in 2010, they will lose, and lose big.

For this reason, we need to get on the Romney people, and really all of those running for national office to use this issue. We do not need to move forward from this debate, this is the debate, or at least one of the debates. There are many who believe that Romney’s implementation of a similar plan in Massachusetts precludes him from taking on this issue, but I say this is nonsense. First off, there is a difference between a state doing this on its own and the federal government inflicting it upon the states. That difference is called the Tenth Amendment. Secondly, after witnessing the results of Massachusetts, and the other 7 states that implemented this plan or similar entitlement plans for offering free commodities to all who reside there, Mitt Romney is capable of seeing that it would be a mistake to continue down that path. Indeed, he has stated boldly and repeatedly that he intends to repeal this 2700 page monstrosity.

Our goal in this election has to be, simply put, 51 Senators, the House, and the Presidency. The Supreme Court refused to save America, but they did not prevent us from saving ourselves.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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46 Responses to “Finding Out What’s In It: Part Eleventy And Why They Want To Move Forward From Here.”
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  1. MikeA
    1 | July 19, 2012 8:08 am

    Amen brother.


  2. mawskrat
    2 | July 19, 2012 8:38 am

    is that the fat lady I see behind
    the curtain?

    sings///


  3. Dolphin
    3 | July 19, 2012 8:45 am

    ObamaCare Flatlines: ObamaCare Taxes Home Sales -- Clobbers Middle-Class Americans

    Beginning January 1, 2013, ObamaCare imposes a 3.8% Medicare tax on unearned income of “high-income” taxpayers which could apply to proceeds from the sale of single family homes, townhouses, co-ops, condominiums, and even rental income, depending on your individual circumstances and any capital gains tax exclusions. Importantly, the “high income” thresholds are not indexed for inflation so will reach increasing numbers of middle-class taxpayers over time.

    In February 2010, 5.02 million homes were sold, according to the National Association of Realtors (NAR). On any given day, the sale of a house, townhome, condominium, co-op, or income from a rental property could slam middle-income families with a new tax they can’t afford.

    This new ObamaCare tax is the first time the government will apply a 3.8 percent tax on unearned income. This new tax on home sales and unearned income and other Medicare taxes raise taxes more than $210 billion to pay for ObamaCare. The National Association of Realtors called this new Medicare tax on unearned income “destructive” and “ill-advised” and warned it would hurt job creation.


  4. lobo91
    4 | July 19, 2012 8:47 am

    Secondly, after witnessing the results of Massachusetts, and the other 7 states that implemented this plan or similar entitlement plans for offering free commodities to all who reside there, Mitt Romney is capable of seeing that it would be a mistake to continue down that path.

    Nobody on the left has ever allowed the fact that their grand schemes don’t actually work get in their way, though.

    There are still people out there who insist that communism has only been a failure every time it’s been tried because “they didn’t do it right,” or something to that effect.


  5. 5 | July 19, 2012 8:53 am

    @ Dolphin:
    That’s going to help the housing market, isn’t it? Because a depressed housing market is key to a robust economy, as the Left defines robust. Teh Obama Boom® proceedeth apace.


  6. 6 | July 19, 2012 8:55 am

    @ lobo91:

    My personal favorite is the, “we just didn’t do it big enough,” argument. So, here we are in 2012, when we just did it bigger than the world has ever seen, spending the wealth of not only our generation, but robbing the wealth of a few generations to follow, and guess what, it still was not enough.

    I feel like we’re all staring in one of those Direct T.V. commercials. “Don’t bang your head against a brick wall because it feels so much better when you stop. Buy Direct T.V.”


  7. 7 | July 19, 2012 8:57 am

    The tagline for the repeal of this legislative monstrosity should be “ObamaCare: The More You Think About It, The Less You Think of It.”


  8. mawskrat
    8 | July 19, 2012 9:45 am

    OT..really cool

    Can you spot the airbase? The elaborate disguise painted over a California airplane plant during WWII to hide it from Japanese

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175740/Can-spot-airbase-The-elaborate-disguise-painted-California-airplane-plant-WWII-hide-Japanese.html#ixzz214lmalPI


  9. 9 | July 19, 2012 9:48 am

    I hate to go all OT (and this is WAY OT), but is anyone familiar with Rosetta Stone? I’d like to learn Italian, and this product intrigues me.


  10. 10 | July 19, 2012 9:50 am

    @ mawskrat:

    See if you can detect what’s wrong with this sentence from the link:

    “The structure’s P-38 fighters, Hudson and B-17 bomber jets were in dire need of protection, not to mention the Royal Air Force’s and US Army Force’s command centers.”


  11. 11 | July 19, 2012 9:53 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    I hate to go all OT (and this is WAY OT), but is anyone familiar with Rosetta Stone? I’d like to learn Italian, and this product intrigues me.

    I’d love to learn Russian from this tool. But I don’t have $300….


  12. Guggi
    12 | July 19, 2012 9:54 am

    @ Macker:

    B-17 bomber jets


  13. mawskrat
    13 | July 19, 2012 10:00 am

    @ Macker:

    LOL…great


  14. mawskrat
    14 | July 19, 2012 10:01 am

    gonna need lots of butter and lemon

    Gigantic 21 pound lobster ‘as big as a torso’ with foot-long claws caught off coast of Cape Cod

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175560/Cape-Cod-Gigantic-21-pound-lobster-big-torso-foot-long-claws-caught-coast.html#ixzz214njDxBu


  15. 15 | July 19, 2012 10:03 am

    Macker wrote:

    I’d love to learn Russian from this tool. But I don’t have $300….

    Do you know anyone with personal experience with the product? Oh, and I could kinda tell you had a thing for the Cyrillic alphabet! ;)

    My wife and I went to Rome a couple of years ago and we fell in love with the Italian language; it just has a beautiful sound to it. It’s also fairly close to Spanish and would likely make learning that one much easier.


  16. 16 | July 19, 2012 10:06 am

    Guggi wrote:

    @ Macker:

    B-17 bomber jets

    Years ago, I had the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take a short flight in a B-17 Flying Fortress. Unbelievable balls those guys had who flew those!


  17. waldensianspirit
    17 | July 19, 2012 10:08 am

    @ MacDuff:
    How noisy was it?


  18. MikeA
    18 | July 19, 2012 10:09 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Did the same thing a few years ago in the Collings Foundation B-17. Took a 40 minute ride. AMAZING and gave me great respect for the men who flew them in combat.


  19. 19 | July 19, 2012 10:14 am

    @ Guggi:

    Damn idiot reporter knows nothing about History. He had to write the article ’cause his boss told him to.

    @ MacDuff:

    From what I understand, there is a Demo available for Free(?), but I don’t know the extent. Italiano, Français, y Español are all related, as they have the Latin language as their basis. I’ve been exposed to all three of these.


  20. 20 | July 19, 2012 10:16 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    How noisy was it?

    Incredibly. We wore large ear protectors like they wear on the decks of carriers. It was also very bumpy. When we got airborne, we got to get in the waist gunner positions and even crawl into the tail gunner position -- alas, the belly turret was unavailable. Quite an unforgettable experience -- those guys were STUDS!


  21. 21 | July 19, 2012 10:18 am

    @ mawskrat:

    That is really cool ~:)
    Thanks!


  22. 22 | July 19, 2012 10:20 am

    @ MacDuff:

    I’ve used it learning Español. You just have to be dedicated because it gets boring after awhile. (that’s why i’m still learning, lol)


  23. 23 | July 19, 2012 10:21 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Did the same thing a few years ago in the Collings Foundation B-17. Took a 40 minute ride. AMAZING and gave me great respect for the men who flew them in combat.

    This one was part of what was known then as the Confederate Air Force (now Commemorative Air Force). They were in town for the Kentucky Derby Festival and I knew someone who knew someone. Very cool.


  24. 24 | July 19, 2012 10:24 am

    Macker wrote:

    From what I understand, there is a Demo available for Free(?), but I don’t know the extent. Italiano, Français, y Español are all related, as they have the Latin language as their basis. I’ve been exposed to all three of these.

    Yep, I just ordered it. A woman my wife works with at DoJ had to learn Arabic and she recommended it highly -- I think she has something to do with intelligence.


  25. lobo91
    25 | July 19, 2012 10:27 am

    @ MacDuff:

    A woman my wife works with at DoJ had to learn Arabic and she recommended it highly – I think she has something to do with intelligence.

    I’m fairly certain that nobody at DoJ has any intelligence…
    //


  26. 26 | July 19, 2012 10:27 am

    Kafir wrote:

    I’ve used it learning Español. You just have to be dedicated because it gets boring after awhile. (that’s why i’m still learning, lol)

    I’ve been reading reviews, but you have to take those with a grain of salt. It’s pricey, but if it works it’d be worth it.


  27. taxfreekiller
    27 | July 19, 2012 10:28 am

    So, how to settle this “Who is Obama”, “Who was his father”..??’s.

    How would the owners of the U.S.A. , We the People go about doing a DNA test on Obama and his known and other possible family. FMD for example.


  28. lobo91
    28 | July 19, 2012 10:30 am

    Looks like Russia and China just blocked another Security Council resolution on Syria.


  29. 29 | July 19, 2012 10:30 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’m fairly certain that nobody at DoJ has any intelligence…
    //

    My wife has to pass pictures of Obama, Biden and Holder every single morning, talk about DEmotivation! Around the office, the photo arrangement is referred to as “the Oreo”.


  30. huckfunn
    30 | July 19, 2012 10:34 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    How noisy was it?

    Incredibly. We wore large ear protectors like they wear on the decks of carriers. It was also very bumpy. When we got airborne, we got to get in the waist gunner positions and even crawl into the tail gunner position – alas, the belly turret was unavailable. Quite an unforgettable experience – those guys were STUDS!

    That’s pretty cool. From what I’ve read, the smallest guy in the crew would be the one who went into the ball turret in the belly of the plane. If the hydraulics of the plane were damaged by enemy fire, or otherwise malfunctioned, the guy in the ball turret was a screwed dewd. I took a poetry class in college and one of the poems we read and studied was The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner.

    From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,
    And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
    Six miles from earth, loosed from the dream of life,
    I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
    When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
    … Randall Jarrett


  31. MikeA
    31 | July 19, 2012 10:39 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    How noisy was it?
    Incredibly. We wore large ear protectors like they wear on the decks of carriers. It was also very bumpy. When we got airborne, we got to get in the waist gunner positions and even crawl into the tail gunner position – alas, the belly turret was unavailable. Quite an unforgettable experience – those guys were STUDS!

    We did not have to wear any protection. We could walk in the waist, through the bomb bay and into the nose. Looking through the bomb sight as we flew over some farms was incredible. The noise from the open gun postions was huge. Sitting in the top turret was also great. I sat behind the pilot for a bit just to watch. Kept having the film Twelve O’Clock high go through my head.


  32. 32 | July 19, 2012 10:40 am

    @ MacDuff:
    I’ve got it for Russian, and it seems pretty good, but I haven’t devoted the time to it that I need to. My biggest complaint about it is that it doesn’t give any help for learning Cyrillic in the first DVDs. There is reading to go along with the lessons, but you have to pick up the alphabet elsewhere. That wouldn’t be a problem for Italian, though.


  33. 33 | July 19, 2012 10:44 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Good luck and kick butt!

    I’ll get into one program and then get bored and flip to another. I really gotta buckle down and do better.


  34. 34 | July 19, 2012 10:44 am

    MikeA wrote:

    Kept having the film Twelve O’Clock high go through my head.

    Gawd, I loved that show! Didn’t you find the interior far smaller that you imagined it to be? I’m sure the sets for TV and the movies were not even close to actual size.


  35. 35 | July 19, 2012 10:47 am

    @ Macker:
    You can sometimes pick them up on eBay. That’s where I got mine. I have to get back into it someday. I love the Russian language.


  36. 36 | July 19, 2012 10:48 am

    Kafir wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Good luck and kick butt!

    I’ll get into one program and then get bored and flip to another. I really gotta buckle down and do better.

    Thanks, like I said, I love the lyrical quality of Italian and knowing it would be a big plus if I wanted to learn Spanish. My wife and I are going to both do it so we can converse and practice with each other.


  37. taxfreekiller
    37 | July 19, 2012 10:52 am

    So, got a message to Sherriff Joes Cold Case Posse re: checking out Pres. Obama, re. his known and unknown family DNA.

    What a tale that might tell.


  38. taxfreekiller
    38 | July 19, 2012 10:54 am

    Most likely the DNA has lots or little red conectors lurking along the helix.


  39. 39 | July 19, 2012 10:55 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Macker:
    You can sometimes pick them up on eBay. That’s where I got mine. I have to get back into it someday. I love the Russian language.

    Just passing this along…a couple of the reviews on Amazon complained about having received copies that were cheap Chinese knock-offs. You can’t believe everything you read, but you can’t be too careful, either.

    You know, if you pick up a copy on CraigsList, you probably get Russian prostitute named Rosetta who’s, ya know, stoned. [insert groan here]


  40. waldensianspirit
    40 | July 19, 2012 11:09 am

    Poll: Rice top VP choice of Republican voters

    ht wz

    When will it end?

    The GOP doesn’t get it


  41. 41 | July 19, 2012 11:15 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Makes ya just want to scream doesn’t it?


  42. MikeA
    42 | July 19, 2012 11:22 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    MikeA wrote:
    Kept having the film Twelve O’Clock high go through my head.
    Gawd, I loved that show! Didn’t you find the interior far smaller that you imagined it to be? I’m sure the sets for TV and the movies were not even close to actual size.

    I found it really cramped. Also thought… “What would it be like to be in this thing for 12 hours, freezing my a$$ off and getting shot at by flak and some pissed off german flyers… Yeah, the guys who felw those things had a pair of brass ones.


  43. RIX
    43 | July 19, 2012 11:56 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Poll: Rice top VP choice of Republican voters
    ht wz
    When will it end?
    The GOP doesn’t get it

    If Republicans are thinking that bRice can cut into
    the Black vote, thet are mistaken.
    No Black Republican is considered authenticlly
    Black, particularly having worked for the evil Bush.


  44. 44 | July 19, 2012 12:00 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:
    MikeA wrote:
    Kept having the film Twelve O’Clock high go through my head.
    Gawd, I loved that show! Didn’t you find the interior far smaller that you imagined it to be? I’m sure the sets for TV and the movies were not even close to actual size.
    I found it really cramped. Also thought… “What would it be like to be in this thing for 12 hours, freezing my a$$ off and getting shot at by flak and some pissed off german flyers… Yeah, the guys who felw those things had a pair of brass ones.

    Anyone who climbed aboard a B-17 or B-29 regardless of where they were in that flying cheese box and a genuine pair. Those guys were Alpha Males of Alpha Males. At 15,000 feet in the air… There is nowhere to hide. Talk about having a bulls-eye painted on your back/chest.


  45. 45 | July 19, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Was it $300?


  46. 46 | July 19, 2012 2:46 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Was it $300?

    Oh, I haven’t ordered the software yet, just the demo. On the site, they have levels 1-5 for $499 but I’m sure there are different packages available. Pricey.


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