The only good scenario in Syria is one in which neither side is able to win but the fighting continues. The pan Syrian goal has always been to swallow up Lebanon, parts of Turkey (particularly Antakya which in Biblical days was called “Antioch”), Jordan and Israel, and I doubt that will change much once Assad is gone.
by Mitch Ginsburg
Lebanon has always lived in the shadow of its neighbor to the northeast. Now, as the Assad family’s four-decade-old grip on power is painfully pried open, Lebanon, that flawed French creation, is sure to be drastically impacted by the results of uprising in Syria.
But the shape and effects of that impact are uncertain. If Israel is able to remain on the sidelines, as it has throughout the turmoil of the Arab Spring, then the fall of the Alawite regime in Syria will affect the sectarian state of Lebanon in one of two ways.
In one scenario, the demise of Assad’s Syria, which one expert called “the Iranians’ Trojan horse in the Levant” and another “the womb in which Hezbollah was born,” may lead to a rise in power for the Sunni Muslims, after years of increased Hezbollah-led Shiite control of Lebanon. Such a struggle, aided by the Sunni power brokers, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, and the influx of al-Qaeda-like elements in Syria, would destabilize the country, push it toward another civil war, but weaken Israel’s fiercest enemy in the Levant and hinder Iran in its bid for regional hegemony.
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Israel, however, may not be able to watch passively as events unfold. Thus far the Israeli leadership has shined in its role as silent spectator to the historic events roiling the Arab world, but a transfer of chemical weapons to Hezbollah or an al-Qaeda-type group, which could entrench itself in the perhaps soon-to-be lawless lands along the Golan Heights, would demand Israeli action. Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman said Tuesday that the transfer of chemical weapons to Hezbollah would be a casus belli. An Israeli strike, the IDF Chief of the General Staff Benny Gantz warned hours later, could lead to war. And war, at this stage, could push Lebanon toward oblivion.
A senior military source said recently that Israel, in its next engagement with Hezbollah, will deal Lebanon a blow so severe it “will need decades to get over it.” He intimated that he wasn’t sure Lebanon would recuperate at all.
Lebanon is the least viable of the post-Ottoman mandatory creations. The French took control of the territory in 1918 and, after crushing the Hashemite leader Faisal’s bid for Arab independence in Greater Syria, they carved out the only Christian majority state in the Middle East and named it the Republic of Lebanon.
Since independence, political powers have been assigned to certain religious groups. The president, for instance, has always been a Maronite Christian, the prime minister a Sunni Muslim, the speaker of parliament a Shiite Muslim and the deputy prime minister a Greek Orthodox Christian.
That system of power-sharing – based on the last official census in Lebanon, taken in 1932 – collapsed horribly during the 1975-1990 civil war, in which 150,000 Lebanese were killed. Since then the Arab state with the highest literacy rate and lowest birth rate, the cultural center of the Arab world, has come under increased Hezbollah control.
Today Christians are a small minority; Shia Islam is the largest sect in the country by a wide margin, representing perhaps as much as half the population; Hezbollah holds 11 out of 30 state cabinet positions, providing it with an effective veto; and four of its officers, including Mustafa Badr al-Din, the head of the military wing, are wanted in The Hague for the 2005 murder of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. The organization’s armed forces, united under the twin flags of battling Israel and spreading the gospel of the Iranian revolution, are in many ways more powerful than the state military.
On May 8, 2008, Hezbollah offered Lebanon a glimpse of its domestic strength. Frustrated by the state government decision to restrict its private fixed-line communications network, which was reportedly linked to Iran and Syria, and outraged by the decision to fire Hezbollah loyalist Brig. Gen. Wafiq Choucair from the post of airport security chief, a position that allowed him to oversee the smooth transfer of arms from those two countries, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah announced the organization would “cut off the hand” of any entity that tried to harm the movement. This was a proclamation that flew in the face of decades of rhetoric regarding Hezbollah’s Lebanon-first stance.
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On May 21, 2008, fearing civil war, all parties met in Doha and signed an agreement that increased Shiite influence in government and enabled Hezbollah to maintain control of its weapons, the largest arsenal of any non-state actor.
The current balance of power, though, could shift if the Alawites are toppled in Syria. “Powerful parties in Lebanon are just itching for Hezbollah to weaken as a result of the Assad regime’s fall in Syria,” according to Brig. Gen. (ret.) Shimon Shapira, a senior fellow at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and the author of “Hizbullah: between Iran and Lebanon.”
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Shapira notes additional signs of Hezbollah’s vulnerability: for the first time in years secular groups in southern Lebanon have defied the Shiite organization’s ban on the sale of alcohol, pushing Hezbollah strongmen out of stores in Nabatiyeh; talk has resurfaced about appointing a Maronite Christian officer to oversee airport security; and many high-ranking officials were implicated in the CIA’s 2011 Hezbollah spy ring.
After Bashar Assad falls, Shapira said, “the probability of the civil war being reignited is not small.”
He predicted that Sunni Jihadist fighters would descend on Beirut, link arms with local Sunnis, and battle Hezbollah. The Christians and the Druze, perhaps representing a quarter of the population in total, would sit on the fence.
He noted that the majority of Hezbollah’s arms, some 70,000 rockets, mortars and missiles, among other weapons, were amassed with the express goal of battling Israel and would do the organization little good on the streets of Beirut. “The battles will be waged with small arms fire and in that both sides are equal,” he said.
Bassem Eid, a Palestinian analyst of Middle East affairs on Voice of Israel and a human rights activist, agreed with Shapira that Assad’s demise would ripple into Lebanon and destabilize the country. He likened Lebanon to Brussels and said he was sure the British and the French were “sorry they ever created it.”
But he was vehemently opposed to the idea that a Sunni victory in Syria would translate into tangible Sunni gains in Lebanon.
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Eid asserted that while in the Israeli narrative Bashar Assad’s regime has been seen as the bridge through which Iranian influence and arms cross into the Arab world, it also has served as a counterweight to Hezbollah’s strength in Lebanon. “They kept the balance intact,” he said of Assad’s regime, “and as soon as they leave, Hezbollah will step in and control Lebanon.”
And since Hezbollah “spends 24 hours of each day thinking how to draw Israel into a conflict,” he said, its rise would inevitably lead to a persecuted Christian minority, and another war with Israel.
Read the rest - Assad’s fall in Syria could spell radical change, or something even more dire, for next-door Lebanon
Rodan Addendum:
The Middle East is having a Charles Johnson style meltdown. Al Qaeda wants to set up an Islamic State in Syria and Iraq. The goal of this new state is to go to war with Israel and Iran. Iran and al-Qaeda where once allies. In the 90′s al-Qaeda, Iran and Hizb’Allah fought the Serbs in the Balkans. They got beaten so bad, NATO had to step in to save them. Iran’s Hezzi puppets assisted al-Qaeda in the Khobar Towers bombing. In the 2000′s Iran harbored major al-Qaeda leaders. Now because of the fighting in Syria and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaeda no longer needs Iran. Keep in mind, that Iran and their Hizb’Allah lackeys also hate Israel.
An Iraqi Al-Qaeda operative has admitted that his organization is taking part in the Syrian uprising against President Assad. The revelation comes amidst increasing evidence that Al-Qaeda is gaining a foothold in Syria.
Abu Thuha, a 56-year-old Al-Qaeda operative living near Kirkuk in northern Iraq, described the Islamist organization’s grand plans to an Iraqi reporter for The New York Times.
“We have experience now fighting the Americans, and more experience now with the Syrian revolution,” he noted. “Our big hope is to form a Syrian-Iraqi Islamic state for all Muslims, and then announce our war against Iran and Israel, and free Palestine.”
This is turning into a mess. Add the presence of Maronites in Lebanon plus the Kurds in Syria and Iraq and we are talking a major mess. For those keeping score it’s: Israel vs. Iran/Hizb’Allah, al-Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood/Turkey/Saudi Arabia vs. Iran/Hizb’Allah/Syrian Baathists, Hizb’Allah vs. Maronites, Kurds vs. Turks, Turks vs. Israel/Greek Cypriots/Russia, Israel vs. Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood and Azerbaijan vs. Armenia/Russia.
The Middle East is a disaster, let’s stay out of it!
Tags: Mitch Ginsburg
This may truly be a case of the devil we know being preferable to the devil we don’t know. Assad is an enemy of the United States, but he has sat on his chemical weapons since he got them from Saddam. If he were going to give them to terrorists, he would have while he was helping them in Iraq. All in all this is a mess, and it is one the Democrats helped to make. Their sucking up to Assad while he was killing American soldiers in Iraq should have been enough to cost them the House and Senate, but the Republican s are weak. They let them get away with it.
Whatever Christians still in Syria had better get out while they still can….
What the fuck are you talking about? There were no WMD’s in Iraq under Hussein, so there were no WMD’s transferred to Assad. BTW, when the five democrats were meeting with Assad in Damascus in 20006, there were also five republicans who met with him. The guy that sucked up to Assad the most on that trip was Darrel Issa!!!
@ Iron Fist:
Even worse than being weak, the GOP establishment supports al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria. Romney is no different than Obama in this regard.
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theoutsider wrote:
@ theoutsider:
BS on Issa. He was against the Syrian occupation of Lebanon. Idea introduced a Bill to sanction Syria for supporting Hezbollah.
You are right about one thing. The GOP and Dems both support the Hijacks. Obama and Romney are no different in regards to Syria.
@ Rodan:
I was replying to Iron Fist, not Speranza. I agree with you and Speranza on Lebanon. I love that place. I was there in 2002. It was beautiful.
@ Rodan:
Issa didn’t agree agree with the Syrian occupation of Lebanon. Agreed. But, he met with him in 2006, and pretty much kissed his ass. You agree with that, Don’t you?
@ theoutsider:
You seem to have forgotten that Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on his own people. It is common knowledge that he had stockpiles of them after the first Gulf War. What isn’t known is where they went. Bush’s biggest mistake in Iraq was milling around for six months trying to appease the UN. That gave Hussein plenty of time to ship the weapons elsewhere. Syria now has stockpiles of poison gas. Your Messiah says so. Do you doubt Obama? Those weapons came from somewhere …
@ theoutsider:
He did not kiss ass. Issa was diplomatic. he has no love of the Syrian regime. His family in Lebanon are Kateb (Maronite Falangists). Just because he spoke Arabic is not kissing ass. Nancy Pelosi kissed ass.
That said, Both Obama and Romney are wrong for wanting to get us involved in this mess.
@ Rodan:
Both Issa and Pelosi kissed Assad’s ass. They were being diplomatic. Neither of them were traitorous.
I don’t want to get involved in Syria either, If Obama and Romney do, they are wrong. Remember I was against the Iraq and Libya involvement.
Iron Fist wrote:
yep
@ theoutsider:
i don’t get the addiction to nation building the elites have. Then again its not their family who will be maimed or die. I’m not dove, but I’m not into unlimited interventionism. I’m a Jacksonian and only believe in going to war over economic interests.
@ Iron Fist:
Right at the same time Iraq’s stockpile disappeared, too.
Coincidence?
Fox News is in the tank for the Islamists in Syria.
@ lobo91:
@ Iron Fist:
Syria had Chemicals weapons for 30 years. They had VX gas back in the 80′s. They may have gotten some from Saddam, but they did have their own as well.
@ theoutsider:
Pelosi is traitorous no matter what country she’s in.
@ Rodan:
Rodan, this is way OT, but I wanted to make you aware of this site, if you weren’t already. I thought it was something that may interest you.
Sorry to muck up the thread……..
@ MacDuff:
Thanks for that! The facts need to get out. They are using this to smear the Church.
@ Rodan:
Wherever the weapons came from, my point still stands. With Assad we can be relatively confident that he won’t transfer the weapons to terrorist groups, especially al Qaeda. If al Qaeda takes over Syria, it is a given that they get the weapons.
@ lobo91:
Doesn’t Pelosi’s husband have dealing with the PLA?
Rodan wrote:
Probably. If she weren’t in Congress, she’d be under the jail for all the insider trading she’s engaged in.
Rodan wrote:
Well, this is a subject on which you and I have no differences and this looks like a good resource. You have a good day!
@ Iron Fist:
I just find it interesting all the groups aligned and against each other in that region. I just find it funny al Qeada turning on their once ally Iran.
Largely due to Obama’s incompetence, the world is definitely a more dangerous place.
@ lobo91:
She should be in prison.
MacDuff wrote:
Don’t worry abut changing the topics on any thread, that’s inevitable that we go off topic.
Rodan wrote:
A significant percentage of Congress (and not just Democrats) should.
theoutsider wrote:
Really, then how come he refused to allow the weapons inspectors in? As far as the Republicans who met with the Damscus Butcher they suck too and one of them (Snarlin’ Arlen Spector) is a major league douche bag who surprise surprise later reverted to being a Democrat. The WMD’s were (as many suspected) sent to Syria.
theoutsider wrote:
You were in Lebanon in 2002? Why would anyone go to a place run by Hezbollah???
Rodan wrote:
Let them kill each other.
@ Speranza:
See my list. It’s an interesting scenario unfolding. All these groups/nations hate each other.
@ Speranza:
The Syrian Islamists are claiming Aleppo will be a New Srbenica. I notice when Jihadis are getting killed, they cray genocide. Srebenica, Jenin, Shatilla and Sabara. I swear they have mastered the victim image.
@ Speranza:
Hezbollah didn’t run the country. I was in Beirut with my girlfriend. We were visiting here family
@ Speranza:
“There were no WMDs in Iraq” and “Bush lied about the WMDs” have now become part of the generally agreed-upon base of “facts” that are, alas, untrue. There’s room for honest debate on our involvement in Iraq, but the amount of disinformation disguised as “fact” on the intertoobs is increasingly alarming.
They media is celebrating 1.5% economic growth!
theoutsider wrote:
They run it now.
@ Rodan:
My favorite is when the Palestinians claim that the Israelis are carrying out “genocide” against them.
If they are, they’re the least-efficient Jews I’ve ever heard of…
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@ theoutsider:
hey are you happy with 1.5% growth?
Rodan wrote:
They have a PR organization that would make GEICO envious and we just gobble it up hook, line and sinker.
@ lobo91:
yeah, the Gaza genocide. You know if Israel really wanted to genocide, they would have and no one could do jack crap about it.
hey the US did genocide in Iraq too!
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@ Rodan:
Yup…right after we stole all their oil…
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@ MacDuff:
Our elites in both parties do. My anger is aimed more at the GOP over this. Since I am a Republican, I feel my party should know better. The Democrats I expect to side with the Muzz.
One of the reasons I am getting active is to meet liked minded anti-Jihad Republicans. If we organize, we can purge the Pro-Jihad republicans like Grover Norquist and John McCain. It may take decades, but it can be done.
@ Rodan:
If they’ll leave Israel out of it, we should back off and let them kill each other. Yes, it is terrible about the locals caught in the crossfire, but the alternative is to simply conquer the savages and force civilization on them. We have no stomach for empire building, so that option is off the table. Simply giving the savages democracy just guarantees that savage governments will be democratically elected. That is no victory.
@ lobo91:
I can’t believe people believe that crap.
@ Rodan:
If Israel wanted genocide there would be peace in the Middle East.
@ Iron Fist:
Israel might get dragged in, but they are big boys and can handle what comes their way. But it’s more likely, we will see Muzz on Muzz violence for the foreseeable future.
What we need to do is raise living hell and tell Romney, to stay out of this.
@ Iron Fist:
Did you see my #35. The media is cheering 1.5% economic growth.
OFF TOPIC: Want to see the Toasters play American Football? Want to see selrahC try to actually work?
Read Episode XXV of Download City!
Lebanese Olympic Judo Team Refuses To Practice Next To Israelis…
So the Brits put up a barrier to hide the disgusting Jews from view.
I think the answer to Mitt Romney’s question is “No they weren’t ready.”
@ waldensianspirit:
If they were spotted next to Israelis Hizballah would kill them. They are trying to stay alive. That’s what’s behind that. Odds are they are Lebanese Shia.
Flying Pig moment:
Piers Morgan defends Mitt Romney!
@ Rodan:
I saw that. How ridiculous. Remember when 3%growth (and 5% unemployment ) was considered terrible? All that has changed is the party of the President.
Rodan wrote:
I really can’t argue with that. Our side’s failure to confront our enemies foursquare has been demoralizing in the extreme and yes, I don’t think that it’s at all bombastic to say that Democrats have a long history of identifying with our enemies.
@ Rodan:
@ Rodan:
Tell me how?
Speranza wrote:
I was there in 2009. So what ?
Rodan wrote:
Some say at least 90 to 100 and more coming of the Boeing (U.S. Force) Massive Ordnance Penetrator , (30,000 lbs of lazer guided nuke/chemical/comm headqts bunker busting) are now deployed at Whitman Air Base (B-2′s) and they are loaded and Mosad info has the locations of the bad things Iraq trucked into Syria via Russian trucks at the start of the Iraq war.
Sort of a needed dry run to see if we can do the nuke stuff in Iran.
Obama will do this to get re-elected more than any thing.
Russia may move ships into the ports and also put groud toops on site to be human shields.
It is a mess and getting worse by the hour.
@ Guggi:
That puts our choice this fall into its proper perspective. Vote Romney for jobs or Obama for more unemployment. The sad thing is, Obama will still get 90% of the black vote.
@ taxfreekiller:
Americans are against intervention in Syria. This would doom Obama.
‘Gut Infection’ Denies Iranian Chance to Compete in Olympics Against Israeli
So that’s what they call it
@ Iron Fist:
Imagine the mess Obama would inherit if re-elected !!!
Not so much, many Americans want to defend aginst the use of those very bad things on the Jews. Its not all about U.S. you know.@ Rodan:
@ taxfreekiller:
odd how its the russians killing and helping assad kill al-qaeda in syria.
yet we arm al-qaeda there. we arm the same people who attacked us on 9-11 and who want war on israel.
Democarts start wars to get elected and re-elected. Not new to them.
You talk like Obama knows what the f’ he is doing.
@ taxfreekiller:
Obama probably helped draw up the plans for a Russian naval base in Cuba
Guggi wrote:
So what? You like to live dangerously??
Next time take a safer trip and just walk through Tahrir Square in Cairo.
theoutsider wrote:
They and the Syrians were the power there, but its your life.
MacDuff wrote:
Nation building over there is foolish. While I am glad that Saddam is gone, Iran was always the biggest danger.
Speranza wrote:
Next time (probably spring 2013) I’m going via Turkey to Iran, then Iraq, then over to Jordan and then: Israel !
@ taxfreekiller:
Sorry, Americans don’t want to help The Muslim Brotherhood take over Syria. I hope Obama starts bombing Syria, so he gets voted out. The majority are against it, hence Obama will not do it before the election.
Iron Fist wrote:
That’s the key issue.
@ coldwarrior:
Odd the borders are wide open and those bad things in Syria if the come into al-qaeda hands could well at coyote prices and ability be sitting in New York, Dallas, or L.A. in 90 days from now.
Our leadership is worse than nothing. Hell if we were on our own we would at lest secure the f’n border with Mexico and the ports.
Our current U.S. Goverment made of of greedy money cult tax whores is a total waste.
Guggi wrote:
Hey if you like living dangerously just walk through East-Central L.A. or East London wearing a Star of David.
Guggi wrote:
That fool did not inherit anything in 2008. He asked for the job.
@ Speranza:
From himself, Axeldouche, Jarrett, Reed, Pelosi and Mooch
Now your giving American voters more credit than they deserve.
Just because something is known to some does not mean most American voters know shit from shinola.
Keep always in mind both Jimmy Carter and B. Obama got elected Pres. and Chuck Shummer, John F. Kerry sit in the Senate, and Nancy Pelosi was speaker of the House.
evidence is real of the lack of understanding by somewhere around 50%of the voters.@ Rodan:
Speranza wrote:
Not to mention the fact that he was in the Senate at the time.
I realize that he didn’t actually do anything there, but still…
Some international organization has figured out that the actual number of Palestinian “refugees” is actually 30-35,000 meaning people that were actually living in what is now Israel on May 14,1948 and fled.
Speranza wrote:
Don’t have to travel so far, Berlin-Kreuzberg would do the same.
The best way to see any muslim country is through the lenses of a bomb sight.
Speranza wrote:
Not new, because (and you will find it on the UNRWA-websites) only 3 to 5 percent of the camps are “original refugees” anymore.And of course the numbers are declining from year to year.
Guggi wrote:
Is that where all the Turks live?
Guggi wrote:
One of the biggest international scams out there.
Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store
All you anti-Second Amendment mouth breathers can stuff it
@ Guggi:
More proof of the Israeli genocide, no doubt…
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Speranza wrote:
Turks and Arabs, yep.
@ taxfreekiller:
The Muslims are getting visas to come here. They don’t have to sneak in.
Guggi wrote:
oh hell yes! lets have a riot!
i miss kreuzberg in may!
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Threadwinner!
lobo91 wrote:
yeo, expecially if you see the overweight “refugees”.
@ taxfreekiller:
I don’t underestimate the stupidity of American voters. Obama is a cultural pop icon. So I don’t disagree with you there. He is viewed as cool and hip. Too many Americans go by what the media tells them.
That’s why we have to fight for this election.
taxfreekiller wrote:
thankfully the russians are trying to kill those people who would do us harm with the chemical weapons.
russians kill al-qeada in syria. we arm al-qaeda in syria.
amazing.
taxfreekiller wrote:
now why on earth would we do that?
/ sadly
There is another funny fact about pal. refugees in Syria: 40% of the refugees have Syrian citizenship and work for the government, but they are still defined as “refugees”.
They do every night.
They do come with stuff.
The Mexican Drug Cartels own the “coyote bussinss now” and they work for cash. These guys got the cash and they do bring stuff with them.
@ Rodan:
Rodan wrote:
You should see the ads I get on websites over here:
“Sign up for the green card lottery!”
off to lunch…look for the write-up later.
that chef skull is hungry.
@ taxfreekiller:
I’m sure some do. But guess what, The vast majority of Muzzies come here legally. They get preferences in Immigration visas. Every Islamic terror attack has been done by legal Muslims. The Hizballah people in Dearborn, where given visas.
We need to stop giving these people visas. we need to secure the border also. But you best bet the next terror attack, will be done by legal Islamic immigrants.
See Lobo’s #96.
@ lobo91:
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Islamic countries get preference in the Immigration visa lotteries. Asians last year surpassed Hispanics are the 31 Immigrant group coming to America. Guess who made up a large part of those “Asians”? Pakistanis!
@ Rodan:
We need to cut way down on visas, period, except for certain particular skills that we need.
When we have 16% real unemployment, why the hell are we actively importing new people?
@ lobo91:
Our Immigration policy should be skilled based and only allow people in, if its under 6%. I had a few Relatives in Dominican Republican that wanted to come here and set up businesses. They don’t get any special break.
I told them, move to Pakistan and take the Shahada and say they are Muslim. You will be given a visa asap.
Three reasons the borders are wide open.
1. Greed.
2. Vote Slaves
3. Wage Slaves.
@ taxfreekiller:
Agree 100%
Every City, County, State and Federal Goverment that puts out bids for construction work “”"KNOWINGLY”"” awards that low bid contract to the company who uses the most illegals and pays them the least.
Every last one of our elected officals do this.
Schools get build that way, bridges, air ports, rail lines, water lines, sewer lines, side walks, the parks and other public areas get mowed by them,,, hell even the high pressure natural gas pipe lines have illegals with fake work records and fake union cards welding on the piple lines.
Greed has over taken reason and common sense.
And do not get me started on D.R. Horton Homes LLC etal.
@ taxfreekiller:
Put Charles Johnson to work. He needs weight loss and some sun!
Example:
google
D.R. Horton / illegal immigrants
like that
Rodan wrote:
He needs a brain transplant
Guggi wrote:
It is one big financial scam.
O/T
Coldwarrior’s parent’s have the good fortune to have Rep. Mike Kelly as their congressional Representative. Why is this good fortune, well listen to this speech of his and judge for yourself.
A Rising Star.
Guggi wrote:
Probably considered to be an “avant garde” neighborhood by the usual multi culti suspects.
@ Speranza:
At this point any Palestinian in Syria, should be considered Syrian. They are identical.
But its all OK, the stock price of D.R. Horton LLC is stable and the two party evil money cult gets re-election on both sides from Horton HOmes etal.
@ Rodan:
Two words: Human Nature. We are all born into Sin, and we always do that which is Sinful rather than that which pleases God.
New Post.
Rodan wrote:
Some groups are net plusses and others are net minuses; Caribbean people seem to be net plusses.
@ MacDuff:
Yup! The only group that’s a net minus are the ones from Islamic countries. Compare a Lebanese Maronite to a Lebanese Shia. Who do you want coming here? Yet our policies prefer the Lebanese Shia.
Its crazy.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Lactobacillus Ahmadinejadopholus?
Well, it looks like this is the start of the Last Crusade, then.
We can’t let the Mohammedans plunder the Holy Hand Grenade.
Rodan wrote:
It most certainly is.