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Amateur hour continues as the Obama White House tries damage control over the Churchill bust snub to Britain

by Speranza ( 146 Comments › )
Filed under Argentina, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, UK, World War II at July 31st, 2012 - 2:00 pm

If it were not so pathetic, the amateurism of this White House would actually be funny.  Let’s face it – Obama hates Winston Churchill, who although a God awful military strategist,  was our firm friend and an anti-Communist.  For third world liberationists such as Barack Obama father and son,  Churchill was an imperialist and they  prefer to admire people such as Mao Zedong.

by Nile Gardiner

The White House is continuing to tie itself in knots over the Churchill bust issue. As I noted in my previous blog, Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer was forced to back peddle furiously this weekend after he ludicrously denied that a loaned bust of Sir Winston Churchill had been sent back to the British government by the White House in 2009 soon after President Obama took office. In fact he wrongly accused Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer of an outright lie when he brought up the matter of the bust in an op-ed piece for The Post last Friday. After the British Embassy pointed out that Pfeiffer’s comments were factually wrong, the White House staffer issued an embarrassing clarification in the form of an “update” on the White House blog.

Pfeiffer’s gaffe over the Churchill bust has continued to build momentum in the US media and on Twitter, with former ABC and Fox News correspondent Brit Hume describing the whole episode as “amateur hour at the White House.” Even The New York Times editorial page editor Andrew Rosenthal called the White House’s handling of the issue “bumbling and amateurish.” A follow-up piece by Mr. Krauthammer calling on Dan Pfeiffer to apologise for his attack is currently the most-read article on influential US news aggregator RealClear Politics.

The issue was also raised on Monday morning at a White House press conference given by Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest, who has added fuel to the fire with his adamant rejection of the idea that President Obama might have snubbed the British by deciding to turf the Churchill bust out of the Oval Office. In response to a question by an American journalist, Earnest replied (watch the video here at RealClear Politics) that the White House was determined to combat “a myth floating in the darker corners of the Internet” regarding the motives behind returning the Churchill bust:

QuestionCan you tell us why the White House decided to weigh in on this whole Winston Churchill bust scandal, and whether you guys are gonna clarify what bust is where, and … [drown out]

Josh EarnestIt is almost like a bad Sherlock Holmes script, right? The case of the missing Winston Churchill bust? Uh – the reason – uh –that we waited on Friday is because there is – uh – a myth floating in some of the darker corners of the internet that suggests that upon taking office the president went out of his way to snub the British people by prematurely returning the bust of Winston Churchill that had occupied a prominent place in the Oval Office of the previous president.

That’s not true. Uh – as the White House curator has previously explained and I believe as we’ve explained on the end of the day on Friday – uh – the bust was loaned to President Bush by the British government. Uh – as is customary at the conclusion of President Bush’s term and before President Obama entered the Oval Office – uh – the bust was returned to the British Embassy.

[.........]

Mr. Earnest, who is clearly no Sherlock Holmes, did not elaborate what he meant by the “dark corners” of the Internet, but he was almost certainly referring to the British press in an insulting fashion, which reported widely on the decision to return the bust and how the move was causing consternation at the time among British officials concerned about a possible weakening of the Special Relationship under President Obama.

First to break the story of the Churchill bust being returned to the British Embassy was The Sunday Telegraph’s Tim Shipman (now at The Daily Mail), who wrote in February 2009:

Barack Obama has sent Sir Winston Churchill packing and pulse rates soaring among anxious British diplomats. A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government’s art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.

The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush’s tenure.

But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: “Thanks, but no thanks.”

Two weeks earlier, in January 2009, The Times had revealed the bust had been removed from the Oval Office and placed in storage, in a piece headlined: “Churchill bust casts shadow over the Special Relationship” (no longer online, but available on news databases such as Lexis/Nexis). Significantly, The Times noted that the British government, led at the time by Gordon Brown, was keen for the bust to go back to the Oval Office:

Britain wants President Obama to put a bronze bust of Sir Winston Churchill back in the Oval Office, where it stood for the past eight years as a symbol of an enduring special relationship with America. The White House is not so sure.

[........]

The bronze was lent to George Bush by Tony Blair in 2001 from the Government Art Collection for the duration of his presidency. It  is now due to be returned.

However, a spokesman for the British Embassy in Washington said yesterday: “We have made it clear that we would be pleased to extend the loan should Mr Obama so wish.” He added that no response had been received; yesterday the White House declined to comment.

It is very clear from these articles in two of Britain’s leading newspapers that the British government gave every opportunity for the Obama White House to keep the Churchill bust, but the president chose not to do so.  After all, he could easily have accommodated both Lincoln and Churchill in the Oval Office. The White House, however, remains firmly in denial over the return of the bust, which carries great symbolism on both sides of the Atlantic.

By any measure this was an insensitive snub to America’s closest friend and ally, at a time when 10,000 British troops were fighting alongside their US allies on the battlefields of Afghanistan, and continue to do so today. And this was no isolated incident, but part of a broader pattern of disdain for the US-British alliance, culminating recently with the Obama administration’s appalling decision to back Argentina’s call for UN-brokered negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falklands. The White House is quick to mouth platitudes about the Special Relationship, but in practice clearly doesn’t believe in it.

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  1. Lily
    1 | July 31, 2012 2:29 pm

    Anything to keep people talking about his record. They are trying to walk this back and it just isn’t happening. It wasn’t a lie that obama returned the bust back to the British Embassy. Yet they just keep doubling-down on this. Unreal.


  2. Lily
    2 | July 31, 2012 2:36 pm

    Trouble in paradise?

    How Big Of Him: Obama Donates $5,000 To His Own Campaign

    http://weaselzippers.blogspot.com/2012/07/how-big-of-him-obama-donates-5000-to.html?tw_p=twt

    Obama’s High Burn Rate Scorches Campaign Schedule

    “It’s just a reality of the campaign-finance situation as we have it.”

    -- A top Democrat working with a pro-Obama political action committee explaining to The Hill why President Obama is adding more fundraisers between now and Election Day.

    President Obama has gone where no incumbent has gone before: a massive, intensely negative dreadnaught of a campaign that has been pounding his challengers since April. And now, he’s paying the price.

    The Hill reports today that Obama, locked in a dead heat with soon-to-be Republican nominee Mitt Romney, is adding fundraisers to his schedule after the Democratic National Convention in September. This is a highly unusual move, especially for an incumbent. Sitting presidents traditionally take advantage of their stature to hoard money in the year before the fall campaign blitz. That leaves them free to campaign in battleground states and govern, rather than trying to wheedle dollars out of entitled-feeling donors who expect access for their max-out checks.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/31/obamas-high-burn-rate-scorches-campaign-schedule/#ixzz22E7BaX11


  3. buzzsawmonkey
    3 | July 31, 2012 3:04 pm

    Choom is busting out all over!


  4. Lily
    4 | July 31, 2012 3:05 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    LOL! He is indeed. Lying all over the place.


  5. brookly red
    5 | July 31, 2012 3:05 pm

    why doesn’t he just say “we sold it on ebay and Michelle bought shoes with the money”. that would put an end to all this.


  6. Lily
    6 | July 31, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Because apparently Michelle is using campagin money to buy shoes. He is burning through his campagin money like water running through his hands.


  7. Speranza
    7 | July 31, 2012 3:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Anything to keep people talking about his record.

    A record of utter failure.


  8. Guggi
    8 | July 31, 2012 3:07 pm

    More Germans leave their estates to Israel

    2012 sees peak in number of aging Germans, who driven by guilty conscience, leave their money to State of Israel


  9. Speranza
    9 | July 31, 2012 3:08 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    More Germans leave their estates to Israel
    2012 sees peak in number of aging Germans, who driven by guilty conscience, leave their money to State of Israel

    Now that is interesting.


  10. Speranza
    10 | July 31, 2012 3:08 pm

    Winston Churchill stands for everything that Obama despises.


  11. Lily
    11 | July 31, 2012 3:11 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Anything to keep people talking about his record.

    A record of utter failure.

    What has he done? Really what postive thing has he done? He got osama bin laden? Really a new book out throws out light that he waffled 4 times on that decision and Jarrett was heavily involved. So really what has he done good for this country?
    I got nothing.


  12. Lily
    12 | July 31, 2012 3:12 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Very interesting. Feeling guilty?


  13. yenta-fada
    13 | July 31, 2012 3:12 pm

    Drive by post. Today’s ‘Ulsterman’ describes how the Romney team threw a wrench in the cogs of the Ozero campaign team. A great read!

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/07/31/white-house-insider-how-mitt-romney-mentally-castrated-the-obama-campaign/


  14. Lily
    14 | July 31, 2012 3:13 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Winston Churchill stands for everything that Obama despises.

    There are more things that he despises than he doesn’t.


  15. 15 | July 31, 2012 3:13 pm

    they prefer to admire people such as Mao Zedong

    Obama probably has a soft spot for Caligula as well!


  16. coldwarrior
    16 | July 31, 2012 3:14 pm

    when this story came out i thought it would just go away. i am very, very surprised that it is back in the news.


  17. Lily
    17 | July 31, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Very good…going to read it later. Right now obama is burning through his money like a kid in a candy store.


  18. Lily
    18 | July 31, 2012 3:15 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    when this story came out i thought it would just go away. i am very, very surprised that it is back in the news.

    I know …but “they” are keeping it in the news and lying all over the place about it.


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | July 31, 2012 3:18 pm

    Lily wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    when this story came out i thought it would just go away. i am very, very surprised that it is back in the news.

    I know …but “they” are keeping it in the news and lying all over the place about it.

    this was a minor little blurb 3 years ago.

    something fishy is going on here…lethinks there is some trickery afoot, trickery perpetrated by the right this time.

    someone made the white house defend this again.


  20. brookly red
    20 | July 31, 2012 3:18 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    Winston Churchill stands for everything that Obama despises.

    There are more things that he despises than he doesn’t.

    yeah, over 300 million of us…


  21. 21 | July 31, 2012 3:20 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    when this story came out i thought it would just go away. i am very, very surprised that it is back in the news.

    The Obama people put it back in the news. They got into it with Krauthammer.


  22. EBL
    22 | July 31, 2012 3:20 pm

    Let’s not forget that Chuckles The Clown was all over this issue and called Krauthammer out for being a partisan hack.

    Charles will of course deny and rewrite history, like when he back tracked about his past St. Pancake comments.


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | July 31, 2012 3:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The Obama people put it back in the news.

    then they are truly fools


  24. 24 | July 31, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    someone made the white house defend this again.

    Charles Krauthammer mentioned it in an article and the White House went into full meltdown mode.


  25. Speranza
    25 | July 31, 2012 3:21 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    when this story came out i thought it would just go away. i am very, very surprised that it is back in the news.

    The Obama people put it back in the news. They got into it with Krauthammer.

    Dr. K. did not back down.


  26. Speranza
    26 | July 31, 2012 3:23 pm

    EBL wrote:

    Let’s not forget that Chuckles The Clown was all over this issue and called Krauthammer out for being a partisan hack.
    Charles will of course deny and rewrite history, like when he back tracked about his past St. Pancake comments.

    Charles Johnson calling anyone a partisan hack is hilarious. Charles Johnson is a cheap partisan whore.


  27. 27 | July 31, 2012 3:23 pm

    @ Speranza:

    No, he was right. The Bust the White House claimed they still had was another one than the bust mentioned by Krauthammer.


  28. Lily
    28 | July 31, 2012 3:23 pm

    This is all they got calling Mitt Romney a felon??? Gee talk about deflecting what your administration is (criminal).

    Obama Campaign Brings Up “Felons” In Latest Attack Ad On Romney

    The latest web ad from Barack Obama’s campaign goes after Mitt Romney for not releasing more tax returns than he already has. The ad, titled “Mitt Romney’s Tax Returns: When Will He Come Clean?,” at one point flashes two words onscreen, “FELONS” and “TAX RECORDS.”

    The words, “FELONS” and “TAX RECORDS,” are displayed onscreen for at least six seconds, so the Obama campaign wants to make sure its viewers see the words.

    Given the title of the ad--and the subject--the ad wants viewers to consider that Mitt Romney might not be releasing more tax returns because, the Obama campaign is suggesting, he might be a felon. (Watch the ad here.)

    This isn’t the first time the Obama campaign has accused Romney of possibly being a felon. Last month, Stephanie Cutter, an Obama deputy campaign manager, said that Romney is either a liar or a felon.

    http://weaselzippers.blogspot.com/2012/07/obama-campaign-brings-up-felons-in.html?tw_p=twt


  29. 29 | July 31, 2012 3:23 pm

    @ EBL:

    Charles will claim credit some how.


  30. yenta-fada
    30 | July 31, 2012 3:24 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    More Germans leave their estates to Israel
    2012 sees peak in number of aging Germans, who driven by guilty conscience, leave their money to State of Israel

    That’s very interesting. When I watch the Obama regime with their Goebbels propaganda machine, it is clear how helpless many Americans must feel. The media urges on the hatred and demonization of those on the right. The campaign against ‘Zionism’ and Jews is now global and “cool”.


  31. Speranza
    31 | July 31, 2012 3:25 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    The Obama people put it back in the news.

    then they are truly fools

    and they are incompetent fools. Real amateurs.


  32. Lily
    32 | July 31, 2012 3:26 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    someone made the white house defend this again.

    Charles Krauthammer mentioned it in an article and the White House went into full meltdown mode.

    Yep shows you that with a little pressure the cracks in obama is showing big time even on this matter. They should have ignored it.


  33. yenta-fada
    33 | July 31, 2012 3:26 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Very good…going to read it later. Right now obama is burning through his money like a kid in a candy store.

    The tactics are fascinating, and Romney is using them against those totalitarians.


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | July 31, 2012 3:26 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    No, he was right. The Bust the White House claimed they still had was another one than the bust mentioned by Krauthammer.

    it was lbj’s bust that they were trying to pass off

    lbj is no churchill


  35. 35 | July 31, 2012 3:27 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    We are still living with many of LBJ’s policy legacy to this day.


  36. yenta-fada
    36 | July 31, 2012 3:28 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ EBL:
    Charles will claim credit some how.

    You HAVE to read ‘The Ulsterman’. It’s not long at all.


  37. 37 | July 31, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ Lily:

    The god-king and his crew are think skinned.


  38. 38 | July 31, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I did.


  39. Lily
    39 | July 31, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Still in all they did return a bust of Churchill back to the British Embassy even after the British said he could have it for his years in the White House and obama said, no thanks.


  40. Buckeye Abroad
    40 | July 31, 2012 3:29 pm

    @ Lily:

    He’s done. Even kappo Soros mentioned over a year ago that it was time to look beyond Obama. The puppet has played his role.


  41. buzzsawmonkey
    41 | July 31, 2012 3:29 pm

    In the football-scrimmage of the campaign, are these the Churchill downs?


  42. Lily
    42 | July 31, 2012 3:31 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Very good…going to read it later. Right now obama is burning through his money like a kid in a candy store.

    The tactics are fascinating, and Romney is using them against those totalitarians.

    Romney isn’t no McCain. I do believe we will be surprised by him. Obama is so easy to make him off balance. He defends on obama-worship and this time around it just isn’t the same as 2008.


  43. 43 | July 31, 2012 3:32 pm

    @ Lily:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    I just shook my head.


  44. brookly red
    44 | July 31, 2012 3:32 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Lily:

    He’s done. Even kappo Soros mentioned over a year ago that it was time to look beyond Obama. The puppet has played his role.

    0 had a mission, to steal the American health care system… as soon as he signed the bill he became a liability.


  45. 45 | July 31, 2012 3:32 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    They have another Obama up their sleeve. I feel this was a trial run.


  46. Lily
    46 | July 31, 2012 3:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    The god-king and his crew are think skinned.

    Very, very thin-skinned.


  47. Buckeye Abroad
    47 | July 31, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.


  48. buzzsawmonkey
    48 | July 31, 2012 3:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama.

    Deep down, they miss the Robertson’s Marmalade golliwog.


  49. brookly red
    49 | July 31, 2012 3:35 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    The god-king and his crew are think skinned.

    Very, very thin-skinned.

    it’s so thin when you look closely you can see they are full of shit.


  50. Lily
    50 | July 31, 2012 3:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    I just shook my head.

    What “IT” factor? For the life of me I have never seen it. He is a wimp who is scared to death of his own wife! Just think how he reacts to our enemies if he can’t handle things with-in his own family.
    Plus on a better note …this is just one person who said that. The British press has done a lot better job of vetting our president this election cycle than our own press ….they are even wondering WHY? our press seems to be stuck on stupid.


  51. Buckeye Abroad
    51 | July 31, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Rodan:

    You’re probably right. I thought Clinton was bottom of the dem barrel in 92′, but they keep digging deeper as time goes on.

    They should be hitting the first level of hell at some point.


  52. yenta-fada
    52 | July 31, 2012 3:37 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    In the football-scrimmage of the campaign, are these the Churchill downs?

    :-) You certainly make hay when the pun shines.


  53. eaglesoars
    53 | July 31, 2012 3:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    Never underestimate the lingering resentment the Brits have for Americans. World War II cost them their empire and their wealth and the U.S. ascended. The Cambridge spies did not love communism so much as they hated capitalism as practiced by the U.S.


  54. Lily
    54 | July 31, 2012 3:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    They have another Obama up their sleeve. I feel this was a trial run.

    Oh dear heavens…hopefully another obama-like politictian will float like a lead balloon.


  55. brookly red
    55 | July 31, 2012 3:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    I just shook my head.

    What “IT” factor? For the life of me I have never seen it. He is a wimp who is scared to death of his own wife! Just think how he reacts to our enemies if he can’t handle things with-in his own family.
    Plus on a better note …this is just one person who said that. The British press has done a lot better job of vetting our president this election cycle than our own press ….they are even wondering WHY? our press seems to be stuck on stupid.

    far be it for me to defend 0 but Godzilla is afraid of her too.


  56. Buckeye Abroad
    56 | July 31, 2012 3:39 pm

    @ Lily:

    our press seems to be stuck on stupid.

    Our press has been the propaganda arm of the democrat party for many years. It wasn’t laziness, it was intent.


  57. Lily
    57 | July 31, 2012 3:39 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.

    For one thing he isn’t their president and in charge of their country.


  58. buzzsawmonkey
    58 | July 31, 2012 3:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    They have another Obama up their sleeve.

    Try the Historic First Female President, one H. Clinton. Just as bad as Obama, but with more competence and better intra-party networking—with direct Muslim Brotherhood contact as a bonus!


  59. Lily
    59 | July 31, 2012 3:41 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Lily:

    our press seems to be stuck on stupid.

    Our press has been the propaganda arm of the democrat party for many years. It wasn’t laziness, it was intent.

    Oh yes it was intent..but they have really took it to a whole new level I have never seen it like it is now. It is sooooooooo out there for obama they aren’t even hiding it.


  60. brookly red
    60 | July 31, 2012 3:42 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.

    For one thing he isn’t their president and in charge of their country.

    no the already lost their borders, health care, guns, and freedom of speech… they don’t need a president like him.


  61. yenta-fada
    61 | July 31, 2012 3:43 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.
    Never underestimate the lingering resentment the Brits have for Americans. World War II cost them their empire and their wealth and the U.S. ascended. The Cambridge spies did not love communism so much as they hated capitalism as practiced by the U.S.

    Yep. The ‘Yanks’ were not all that welcome even during the war. The same sentiment exists in Canada. Obama is VERY popular here.


  62. Lily
    62 | July 31, 2012 3:43 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    I just shook my head.

    What “IT” factor? For the life of me I have never seen it. He is a wimp who is scared to death of his own wife! Just think how he reacts to our enemies if he can’t handle things with-in his own family.
    Plus on a better note …this is just one person who said that. The British press has done a lot better job of vetting our president this election cycle than our own press ….they are even wondering WHY? our press seems to be stuck on stupid.

    far be it for me to defend 0 but Godzilla is afraid of her too.

    That’s not defending him that is stating a fact. The damn man is afraid of who he married. Really? Good grief. What a damn wimp.


  63. Lily
    63 | July 31, 2012 3:45 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.

    For one thing he isn’t their president and in charge of their country.

    no the already lost their borders, health care, guns, and freedom of speech… they don’t need a president like him.

    True..but he would fit right in. The problem is we aren’t brits or Europeons.


  64. brookly red
    64 | July 31, 2012 3:47 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    I just shook my head.

    What “IT” factor? For the life of me I have never seen it. He is a wimp who is scared to death of his own wife! Just think how he reacts to our enemies if he can’t handle things with-in his own family.
    Plus on a better note …this is just one person who said that. The British press has done a lot better job of vetting our president this election cycle than our own press ….they are even wondering WHY? our press seems to be stuck on stupid.

    far be it for me to defend 0 but Godzilla is afraid of her too.

    That’s not defending him that is stating a fact. The damn man is afraid of who he married. Really? Good grief. What a damn wimp.

    Mooch would make a good Sec. of State… even Putin would be uncomfortable with her in the room.


  65. Lily
    65 | July 31, 2012 3:48 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    They have another Obama up their sleeve.

    Try the Historic First Female President, one H. Clinton. Just as bad as Obama, but with more competence and better intra-party networking—with direct Muslim Brotherhood contact as a bonus!

    Hopefully she will be too tired after the next 4 years to run. Oh the humanity! We don’t need any more re-treads. But yes I do know she has her eyes on the 2016 election. But a lot can happen between now and then.


  66. brookly red
    66 | July 31, 2012 3:48 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.

    For one thing he isn’t their president and in charge of their country.

    no the already lost their borders, health care, guns, and freedom of speech… they don’t need a president like him.

    True..but he would fit right in. The problem is we aren’t brits or Europeons.

    anymore ;)


  67. Buckeye Abroad
    67 | July 31, 2012 3:48 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.

    For one thing he isn’t their president and in charge of their country.

    Many Brits, or most of the world for that matter, simply do not understand America. It’s a pure “love-hate” relationship.

    Or as I often heard, “Americans don’t understand the world” with which I automatically reply, “the world doesn’t understand America.”

    I encourage people to read the US Constitution. It’s as a radical document today as it was over 2 centuries ago.


  68. Guggi
    68 | July 31, 2012 3:48 pm

    It’s from 2010 but Rodan will like anyway :-P


  69. eaglesoars
    69 | July 31, 2012 3:49 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Yenta, I read your Ulsterman link. Interesting but easily missed is this: If they (Romney) win this state early Election night……..

    Early? That means it’s on the east coast. My guess is either Pennsylvania or Virginia. Given the influence of Philadelphia on Penna’s politics, my money is that the state they’re talking about is Virginia.


  70. Lily
    70 | July 31, 2012 3:49 pm

    @ brookly red:

    LOL! He would be afraid she would whip his a$$! The woman is un-hinged to be honest and her husband is un-hinged in a different way.


  71. Speranza
    71 | July 31, 2012 3:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Yet the British love Obama. Some Tory NO said that their heads are with Romney, but hearts with Obama. He said they know Romney would be a better president, but that Obama has that “IT” factor.

    I just shook my head.

    Insanity.


  72. eaglesoars
    72 | July 31, 2012 3:51 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I should have added that this Ulsterman rpt confirms A LOT that was writtin in the book The Amateur.


  73. buzzsawmonkey
    73 | July 31, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ Guggi:

    It’ too bad that the co-chairs of the Congressional Nostril Caucus, Henry Waxman and Sheila Jackson Lee, are both in safe seats.


  74. Lily
    74 | July 31, 2012 3:52 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I meet a lot of Brits like that. I don’t understand it either.

    For one thing he isn’t their president and in charge of their country.

    Many Brits, or most of the world for that matter, simply do not understand America. It’s a pure “love-hate” relationship.

    Or as I often heard, “Americans don’t understand the world” with which I automatically reply, “the world doesn’t understand America.”

    I encourage people to read the US Constitution. It’s as a radical document today as it was over 2 centuries ago.

    Very well put. The world doesn’t understand Americans. But hey when they are in trouble “Who Do They Call????” It surely isn’t the Ghost Busters. It’s the United States… We hate the Americans ..oh look bad guys …We Love the Americans.


  75. brookly red
    75 | July 31, 2012 3:55 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    It’ too bad that the co-chairs of the Congressional Nostril Caucus, Henry Waxman and Sheila Jackson Lee, are both in safe seats.

    /Nostrilcaucus? you mean the french guy who predicted the anti-christ would have big ears?


  76. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | July 31, 2012 3:55 pm

    Lily wrote:

    But hey when they are in trouble “Who Do They Call????” It surely isn’t the Ghost Busters. It’s the United States… We hate the Americans ..oh look bad guys …We Love the Americans.

    For that matter, if Israel had gained sovereignty over one square inch of land for every humanitarian action it has performed—earthquake relief in Haiti, tsunami relief in the Indian Ocean, medical assistance in Africa, irrigation assistance, etc., etc.—it would have not only full control of the West Bank and Gaza, but be halfway to Iraq by now.


  77. brookly red
    77 | July 31, 2012 3:57 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    But hey when they are in trouble “Who Do They Call????” It surely isn’t the Ghost Busters. It’s the United States… We hate the Americans ..oh look bad guys …We Love the Americans.

    For that matter, if Israel had gained sovereignty over one square inch of land for every humanitarian action it has performed—earthquake relief in Haiti, tsunami relief in the Indian Ocean, medical assistance in Africa, irrigation assistance, etc., etc.—it would have not only full control of the West Bank and Gaza, but be halfway to Iraq by now.

    they had the west bank and gaza plus the sinai… they gave it back.


  78. buzzsawmonkey
    78 | July 31, 2012 3:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    /Nostrilcaucus? you mean the french guy who predicted the anti-christ would have big ears?

    The Congressional Nostril Caucus is full of snot “noes.”


  79. Guggi
    79 | July 31, 2012 3:57 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    It’ too bad that the co-chairs of the Congressional Nostril Caucus, Henry Waxman and Sheila Jackson Lee, are both in safe seats.

    I detest Waxman since I met him in The Hague.


  80. Lily
    80 | July 31, 2012 3:58 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    But hey when they are in trouble “Who Do They Call????” It surely isn’t the Ghost Busters. It’s the United States… We hate the Americans ..oh look bad guys …We Love the Americans.

    For that matter, if Israel had gained sovereignty over one square inch of land for every humanitarian action it has performed—earthquake relief in Haiti, tsunami relief in the Indian Ocean, medical assistance in Africa, irrigation assistance, etc., etc.—it would have not only full control of the West Bank and Gaza, but be halfway to Iraq by now.

    Very true.


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    81 | July 31, 2012 3:58 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    they had the west bank and gaza plus the sinai… they gave it back.

    Yeah. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Which is dumber; to believe Arab promises, American presidents, or your own left wing? Seems like a tie to me.


  82. buzzsawmonkey
    82 | July 31, 2012 3:59 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    I detest Waxman since I met him in The Hague.

    You saw him in person and did not turn to stone? I congratulate you.


  83. brookly red
    83 | July 31, 2012 4:01 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    they had the west bank and gaza plus the sinai… they gave it back.

    Yeah. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Which is dumber; to believe Arab promises, American presidents, or your own left wing? Seems like a tie to me.

    well at least when the arabs promise, you know they are going to try to deliver…


  84. eaglesoars
    84 | July 31, 2012 4:01 pm

    gotta go…..


  85. Guggi
    85 | July 31, 2012 4:04 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    You saw him in person and did not turn to stone?

    :-)


  86. Lily
    86 | July 31, 2012 4:05 pm

    Not only the story about Winston Churchill’s bust that continues to have legs so does this story which I thought would die down..but just keeps going and going..seems Rahm is catching some blow-back. Good.
    It is amazing this story has legs yet other important issues don’t.

    Chicago church leaders roast Rahm Emanuel over Chick-fil-A stance

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/31/chicago-religious-leaders-back-chick-fil/#ixzz22ET9rytr


  87. buzzsawmonkey
    87 | July 31, 2012 4:07 pm

    @ Lily:

    It’s our system of chicks and ballet-sense.


  88. Lily
    88 | July 31, 2012 4:08 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol: I must admit it is making me hungry for a chicken sandwich. ;)


  89. yenta-fada
    89 | July 31, 2012 4:09 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Virginia, eh? Good work, Sherlock!


  90. Lily
    90 | July 31, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ brookly red:

    1. Arabs are allowed to lie about their promises…the koran says so when they are dealing with infidels. So if they promise peace you know you are getting the excate opposite.
    2. If they promise violence..they do make good on that.
    ;)


  91. The Osprey
    91 | July 31, 2012 4:11 pm

    Obama couldn’t deal with having that eebil white colonialist Churchill staring at him in the Oval Office.


  92. Lily
    92 | July 31, 2012 4:12 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    True just like a vampire can’t deal with crosses. ;)


  93. Speranza
    93 | July 31, 2012 4:17 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Obama couldn’t deal with having that eebil white colonialist Churchill staring at him in the Oval Office.

    Churchill would have thrown up listening to Obama’s private talk.


  94. Speranza
    94 | July 31, 2012 4:19 pm

    @ Lily:
    Rahmbo Emmanuel said Chick Fil-A does not represent “Chicago Values” -- I sure hope it doesn’t, otherwise its competition such as KFC would be sleeping with the fishes.


  95. Speranza
    95 | July 31, 2012 4:20 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    they had the west bank and gaza plus the sinai… they gave it back.

    Yeah. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Which is dumber; to believe Arab promises, American presidents, or your own left wing? Seems like a tie to me.

    Whatever Ha’aretz urges, do the opposite.


  96. Speranza
    96 | July 31, 2012 4:20 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    I detest Waxman since I met him in The Hague.

    He is one ugly mofo!


  97. Lily
    97 | July 31, 2012 4:20 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    Obama couldn’t deal with having that eebil white colonialist Churchill staring at him in the Oval Office.

    Churchill would have thrown up listening to Obama’s private talk.

    Not only that if he could talk from the dead he would have put the fear of life into him. Maybe that is what he was scared of..Churchill haunting him.


  98. Lily
    98 | July 31, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yeah Chicago values aren’t excatly the greatest at Rahm’s type of values.


  99. Speranza
    99 | July 31, 2012 4:22 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Mooch would make a good Sec. of State… even Putin would be uncomfortable with her in the room.

    She cannot be worse then Hillary.


  100. 100 | July 31, 2012 4:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama probably has a soft spot hard-on for Caligula as well!

    There, fixed that for ya!


  101. yenta-fada
    101 | July 31, 2012 4:27 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Mooch would make a good Sec. of State… even Putin would be uncomfortable with her in the room.
    She cannot be worse then Hillary.

    U R wrong.

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/-JbBi4lKFSFw/UBVQKQKKpTI/AAAAAAAAkKM/tVlkMAEkrxo/s1600-h/Screenshot%252520Studio%252520capture%252520%252523637%25255B3%25255D.png


  102. Guggi
    102 | July 31, 2012 4:30 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    Mooch would make a good Sec. of State… even Putin would be uncomfortable with her in the room.
    She cannot be worse then Hillary.
    U R wrong.
    http://lh5.ggpht.com/-JbBi4lKFSFw/UBVQKQKKpTI/AAAAAAAAkKM/tVlkMAEkrxo/s1600-h/Screenshot%252520Studio%252520capture%252520%252523637%25255B3%25255D.png

    OmG, this is a photoshop, isn’t it ?

    This can’t be true !!!


  103. Lily
    103 | July 31, 2012 4:30 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Good night in Georiga what in the world makes her think she looks good in that! I swear she has the fashion sense of a 2 year old.
    Her flat overly bright shoes that never match what she is wearing and now this. Good grief.


  104. Lily
    104 | July 31, 2012 4:32 pm

    @ Guggi:

    A total fashion disaster to be honest. Don’t know if you can photo-shop that. Besides I have seen her in just awful clothes and shoes. Just awful.


  105. Speranza
    105 | July 31, 2012 4:35 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Not only that if he could talk from the dead he would have put the fear of life into him. Maybe that is what he was scared of..Churchill haunting him.

    Especially once Winston had some brandy in him as the fascist Lady Astor could attest to.


  106. Lily
    106 | July 31, 2012 4:37 pm

    Interesting. They are eating their own.

    Occupy Wall Street Protesters Targeting Obama At Democratic National Convention…

    Protest organizer John Penley, among the first to join the Occupy protests in Zuccotti Park, says some Occupy protesters were disturbed by the name change, which turned the “Coalition to Protest at the DNC” into the “Coalition to March on Wall Street South — Building People’s Power During the DNC.”

    The change in nomenclature, he said, let Democrats off the hook.

    And so despite the perception that Occupy is more liberal than it is conservative, Penley says his demonstration, “Occupy the Military Industrial Complex,” will very much target President Barack Obama.

    “We’re targeting Obama’s out of control military spending,” he told Whispers. “It’s the key to so many problems in the U.S. That, and the drone strikes on American citizens. And the NDAA. People feel so upset with Obama.”

    http://weaselzippers.blogspot.com/2012/07/occupy-wall-street-protesters-targeting.html


  107. Lily
    107 | July 31, 2012 4:38 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Not only that if he could talk from the dead he would have put the fear of life into him. Maybe that is what he was scared of..Churchill haunting him.

    Especially once Winston had some brandy in him as the fascist Lady Astor could attest to.

    Oh yeah he could go on a roll and never would back down from a fight especially if he had some brandy in him. LOL.


  108. 108 | July 31, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    That’s a good point!


  109. Guggi
    109 | July 31, 2012 4:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    A total fashion disaster to be honest. Don’t know if you can photo-shop that. Besides I have seen her in just awful clothes and shoes. Just awful.

    I’ve never seen any similar fashion desaster from any First Lady. I’m speechless.


  110. 110 | July 31, 2012 4:39 pm

    I see why Cruz is winning. I’m watching Dewhurst and he’s rambling about Gay Marriage.


  111. Lily
    111 | July 31, 2012 4:40 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Neither have I. She dresses just horrible to be honest.


  112. Guggi
    112 | July 31, 2012 4:41 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    desaster

    disaster (Desaster = German for disaster)


  113. Lily
    113 | July 31, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ Guggi:

    You still got your point across. ;) In either languague she is total fashion disaster. Those ugly flat bright colored shoes that never match what she is wearing too are horrible.


  114. taxfreekiller
    114 | July 31, 2012 4:45 pm

    Well hell after all,, Churchhill was a gun clinging, bible thumping, cigar smoking, war monger, no way should any think like him be near the dear leader, it might upset his pot smoking and cocaine sniffing.

    Like that.


  115. taxfreekiller
    115 | July 31, 2012 4:45 pm

    thing@ taxfreekiller:


  116. brookly red
    116 | July 31, 2012 4:46 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    You still got your point across. In either languague she is total fashion disaster. Those ugly flat bright colored shoes that never match what she is wearing too are horrible.

    but they are all the rage on Klingon…

    i couldn’t resist.


  117. brookly red
    117 | July 31, 2012 4:51 pm

    well this could be Romney’s answer to the “felon” ads…

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/31/illegals-released-feds-19-murders-142-sex-crimes/


  118. yenta-fada
    118 | July 31, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ Guggi:

    It IS not photoshop. Mooch has stated that the woman she would most like to be in the world is Beyonce. Values!


  119. Lily
    119 | July 31, 2012 4:54 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Excatly. Obama released them and guess what they committed 60,000 crimes.
    /winning hearts and minds he is. I swear whatever he touches turns to crap.


  120. Guggi
    120 | July 31, 2012 4:54 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Those ugly flat bright colored shoes that never match what she is wearing too are horrible.

    Would never happen to us :-P


  121. Lily
    121 | July 31, 2012 4:55 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    It IS not photoshop. Mooch has stated that the woman she would most like to be in the world is Beyonce. Values!

    Oh she is very happy to smooch with the Hollyweird crowd and the music scene crowd.
    /makes for an excellent first lady now doesn’t it?/not.


  122. yenta-fada
    122 | July 31, 2012 4:57 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    A total fashion disaster to be honest. Don’t know if you can photo-shop that. Besides I have seen her in just awful clothes and shoes. Just awful.
    I’ve never seen any similar fashion desaster from any First Lady. I’m speechless.

    I have a LOT more where that one came from. She thinks she is 22 years old and very SEXY. Mooch’s own brother said that any guy she ever dated never came back for a second date. The Obama thingie was a Reverend Wright marriage of convenience by all circumstantial evidence.


  123. Lily
    123 | July 31, 2012 4:57 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Those ugly flat bright colored shoes that never match what she is wearing too are horrible.

    Would never happen to us

    Never, ever. If I can’t wear heels (like I use to be able to) there are tons of nice shoes with lower heels that look very nice. But bright colored flats that look like horrible slippers and don’t match. Oh the humanity! ;)


  124. buzzsawmonkey
    124 | July 31, 2012 4:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    makes for an excellent first lady now doesn’t it?

    First Lady? She doesn’t even qualify as First Broad.


  125. buzzsawmonkey
    125 | July 31, 2012 4:59 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Mooch’s own brother said that any guy she ever dated never came back for a second date.

    Hard to come back when she bites their heads off and eats them.


  126. Lily
    126 | July 31, 2012 5:00 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    A total fashion disaster to be honest. Don’t know if you can photo-shop that. Besides I have seen her in just awful clothes and shoes. Just awful.
    I’ve never seen any similar fashion desaster from any First Lady. I’m speechless.

    I have a LOT more where that one came from. She thinks she is 22 years old and very SEXY. Mooch’s own brother said that any guy she ever dated never came back for a second date. The Obama thingie was a Reverend Wright marriage of convenience by all circumstantial evidence.

    LOL!! I think he said he was surprised someone actually married her.
    /now my brothers have said a lot of things but they never said they would be surprised if a man actually married me. ;)
    YIKES…says a whole lot about her.


  127. Guggi
    127 | July 31, 2012 5:01 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    It IS not photoshop. Mooch has stated that the woman she would most like to be in the world is Beyonce. Values!

    Beyonce didn’t build her career, somebody else made that happen.////


  128. Lily
    128 | July 31, 2012 5:01 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    makes for an excellent first lady now doesn’t it?

    First Lady? She doesn’t even qualify as First Broad.

    True. LOL!


  129. yenta-fada
    129 | July 31, 2012 5:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    It IS not photoshop. Mooch has stated that the woman she would most like to be in the world is Beyonce. Values!
    Oh she is very happy to smooch with the Hollyweird crowd and the music scene crowd.
    /makes for an excellent first lady now doesn’t it?/not.

    Her husband is all about athletes and movie stars. He hasn’t met with Paul Ryan for over a year regarding economic policy. Same with the ‘Jobs Council’. It’s always party time at the WH unless it’s campaigns, golf, or world travel. They aren’t even bothering to keep up appearances.


  130. Guggi
    130 | July 31, 2012 5:04 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Mooch’s own brother said that any guy she ever dated never came back for a second date. The Obama thingie was a Reverend Wright marriage of convenience by all circumstantial evidence.

    Her middle name is “Fury”, isn’t it ?


  131. Lily
    131 | July 31, 2012 5:04 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    It IS not photoshop. Mooch has stated that the woman she would most like to be in the world is Beyonce. Values!
    Oh she is very happy to smooch with the Hollyweird crowd and the music scene crowd.
    /makes for an excellent first lady now doesn’t it?/not.

    Her husband is all about athletes and movie stars. He hasn’t met with Paul Ryan for over a year regarding economic policy. Same with the ‘Jobs Council’. It’s always party time at the WH unless it’s campaigns, golf, or world travel. They aren’t even bothering to keep up appearances.

    Nope why should they? The media is in the tank for them…but people just aren’t buying what they are selling anymore.


  132. yenta-fada
    132 | July 31, 2012 5:05 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Mooch’s own brother said that any guy she ever dated never came back for a second date.
    Hard to come back when she bites their heads off and eats them.

    nom, nom, nom :-)


  133. buzzsawmonkey
    133 | July 31, 2012 5:06 pm

    Whatever her getup, Michelle always sports The Perpetual Scowl of the Incompetent Supervisor™.


  134. Lily
    134 | July 31, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    She doesn’t appear to be a ‘happy person’ now does she?


  135. brookly red
    135 | July 31, 2012 5:08 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    It IS not photoshop. Mooch has stated that the woman she would most like to be in the world is Beyonce. Values!
    Oh she is very happy to smooch with the Hollyweird crowd and the music scene crowd.
    /makes for an excellent first lady now doesn’t it?/not.

    Her husband is all about athletes and movie stars. He hasn’t met with Paul Ryan for over a year regarding economic policy. Same with the ‘Jobs Council’. It’s always party time at the WH unless it’s campaigns, golf, or world travel. They aren’t even bothering to keep up appearances.

    The deal they made with the devil was for 4 years… they both agreed.

    Why? Because 0 figured he would never survive 4 years with her and she figured she ain’t afraid of no debel.


  136. Lily
    136 | July 31, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Oh but the debel will have his due.


  137. brookly red
    137 | July 31, 2012 5:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Oh but the debel will have his due.

    I am just worried that after 4 years is up the whole country goes to hell.


  138. 138 | July 31, 2012 5:11 pm

    New thread.


  139. yenta-fada
    139 | July 31, 2012 5:11 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Mooch’s own brother said that any guy she ever dated never came back for a second date. The Obama thingie was a Reverend Wright marriage of convenience by all circumstantial evidence.
    Her middle name is “Fury”, isn’t it ?

    The ugly goes straight down to the soul. Her brother also said that Mooch didn’t compete in sports because she couldn’t stand to lose. The rumors say that she lost her law license because of possible extortion charges. The fancy job she had in a Chicago hospital was involved in a ‘patient dumping’ scheme. They brought patients in, counted them in the stats, and then dumped them on other hospitals. AFAIK, of course. RIX would know more because he is in Chicago and has followed this for a long time. At any rate, neither Mooch nor Ozero have legal licenses to practice law anymore.


  140. Lily
    140 | July 31, 2012 5:12 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Oh but the debel will have his due.

    I am just worried that after 4 years is up the whole country goes to hell.

    That is a concern he sure has done a number on this country in just 4 years.


  141. The Osprey
    141 | July 31, 2012 5:13 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Well hell after all,, Churchhill was a gun clinging, bible thumping, cigar smoking, scotch whiskey drinkin‘ war monger, no way should any think like him be near the dear leader, it might upset his pot smoking and cocaine sniffing.

    Like that.

    FTFY


  142. Speranza
    142 | July 31, 2012 5:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I see why Cruz is winning. I’m watching Dewhurst and he’s rambling about Gay Marriage.

    I assume he is against it.


  143. Speranza
    143 | July 31, 2012 5:52 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Neither have I. She dresses just horrible to be honest.

    She looks like a castrated guy.


  144. Alberta Oil Peon
    144 | July 31, 2012 6:13 pm

    @ Guggi:
    Now Michelle, if something dis-assed her, it might not be a disaster, if you get my drift.


  145. Speranza
    145 | July 31, 2012 6:24 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Now Michelle, if something dis-assed her, it might not be a disaster, if you get my drift.

    Her drift is as large as the Grand Canyon.


  146. Speranza
    146 | July 31, 2012 6:40 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Obama probably has a soft spot hard-on for Caligula as well!

    There, fixed that for ya!

    You really have issues with references to homosexuality.


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