It is so laughable to see Liberals especially a magazine that is only found in Dentists offices and will soon go all digital, refer to those who actually have been under fire in front line service to our nation, as wimps. Although not a fan of George H.W.Bush, he most definitely was not a wimp as his war time service indicates. As for Mitt Romney he successfully worked in private industry, ran for governor (and won) in liberal Massachusetts, ran against Ted Kennnedy for the Senate, and is taking on The One. Not exactly a shrinking violet.
by Carl M. Cannon
Given the myriad problems facing print journalism, Newsweek editor Tina Brown can hardly be faulted for her quest to create provocative magazine covers. And this week’s edition, in which Newsweek reprised its hoary “wimp factor” conceit, certainly attracted attention.
There are several problems with calling Mitt Romney a “wimp,” however, and they were ably pointed out by other journalists left, right, and center.
For starters, there’s little evidence that Romney is actually a wimp, whatever that really means, and there are some indications to the contrary. Even more jarring, in the fourth presidential election of the 21st century, are we really employing schoolyard language to claim that a presidential candidate lacks the requisite amount of machismo?[......]
Perhaps the problem for Newsweek was bad karma. It reprised a 25-year-old cover, but it was a fatuous device the first time the magazine’s editors used it — in October of 1987 — when they applied that appellation to George Herbert Walker Bush.
It must be noted that the text of the 1987 cover story, written by Margaret Warner, was insightful and fact-based — and not necessarily unsympathetic to its subject, the sitting vice president. The same care wasn’t taken in assembling the 2012 “wimp factor” piece. This year’s version is more informed by the sensibilities of cartoonist Garry Trudeau, the man who did the most to push the “wimp” line against Bush back in the 1980s — long before Newsweek did.
Through his popular “Doonesbury” comic strip, Trudeau was, and remains, a reliably partisan operator. He was particularly spiteful toward the Bush family, with whom he shared a Yale background. Trudeau often let his ideology, or perhaps his excitements, get the better of him. Over the years he and his cartoon characters regurgitated old rumors about George W. Bush using drugs, needled the Bush daughters for underage drinking, asserted that the 43rd president didn’t fulfill his National Guard obligation, and routinely characterized Dubya as a dim bulb.
(Regarding this last critique, Trudeau inadvertently brought his own candlepower into question by falling for a ludicrous Internet hoax. Citing a study from the [non-existent] Scranton, Pa.-based “Lovenstein Institute,” Trudeau passed along the claim that George W. Bush had an IQ of 91 — and that Bill Clinton’s was exactly twice as high.)
For the most part, the Bushes took the abuse in good stride. The exceptions were the “Doonesbury” cartoons in the mid-1980s depicting George H.W. Bush as a “wimp” who had “put his manhood in a blind trust” to be Ronald Reagan’s running mate.
As Bush later confided to a journalist, “I thought, ‘What the hell? Who is this, you know, elitist . . . who never ran for sheriff, never taken his case to the people? Who is this little guy that comes out of some of the same background as me?”
Even before their father succeeded Reagan as president, two of Bush’s sons — George W. and Jeb — also told the old man they’d like to “kick Trudeau’s ass.” And on March 13, 1991, Bush referred to Trudeau in his diary as “a little elitist who is spoiled, derisive, ugly, and nasty.”
[........]
That’s political expediency, not wimpishness. Mitt Romney also switched positions on abortion — and gun control and health insurance mandates — and in 2012 he stands accused of genuflecting before the Tea Party movement. Criticizing him for this is fair game, but it’s more Machiavellian than unmanly.
In George H.W. Bush’s case, the criticism that he wasn’t more forceful in opposing President Reagan also ignored the basic parameters of the vice presidency. These limitations have bedeviled the inhabitants of that office back to John Adams. The job has no real power and, in a way, is a trap. A “veep” rises and falls with the boss, as Hubert Humphrey found out in 1968, when he got blamed both for Lyndon Johnson’s policies and for not speaking out against them.
Twenty years later, Bush was trying to avoid Humphrey’s fate, and there was widespread anger, and no small amount of consternation, inside his campaign when the very limitations of the vice president were used to impugn his character.
[.......]
As the Reagan era came to a close, Bruce Curtis, a professor of American thought and language at Michigan State, was struck by the prominence of the wimp angle in the campaign to succeed the 40th president. In a scholarly article for American Heritage magazine, Curtis teased out two fascinating points: First, the rhetorical impulse to label your opponent a sissy is an enduring — if not endearing — aspect of U.S. presidential races. It literally dates to Jefferson’s time.
Second, he noted that the symbolism and imagery employed in this cause in modern times are often based on make-believe. George Herbert Walker Bush was the former head of the CIA and a hero in World War II. The president to whom he was unfavorably compared spent the same war making training films in Hollywood; and the man who unseated him in 1992 went out of his way to avoid military service altogether during the war in Vietnam.
Curtis recalled in his American Heritage piece how Reagan was once asked if he’d been nervous debating President Carter in 1980. “Not at all,” the Gipper replied, “I’ve been on the same stage with John Wayne.”
[......]
George Herbert Walker Bush was a Texas wildcatter, captain of the baseball team at Yale — when the Elis were a national powerhouse — and gung-ho about going to war. He was a 17-year-old a prep school senior at Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass., when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941.”
That spring Poppy Bush, as he was known at Andover, finished his high school degree and led the varsity ball club to a winning season. The last issue of the school newspaper that year shows a tall, smiling Bush — neither a wimp nor a nerd — standing with his hands on hips above the caption “Poppy Bush, Captain of Baseball.”
All the while, he was planning to enlist as soon as school let out for the summer. Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson gave the commencement address at Andover that spring. It’s going to be a long war, Stimson told the 213 all-male members of the graduating class. Go to college first, not the military. The United States will still need you in three or four years — as officers.
But the captain of baseball had already made inquiries at the local naval recruiting office, and as he and his family filed out of Cochran Chapel on June 12, 1942, Prescott Bush asked his second eldest son whether Stimson’s speech had caused him to change his mind.
“No, sir,” the young man replied. “I’m joining up.”
It was George Bush’s 18th birthday. Days later, he was in the United States Navy.
A year after that, he was flying combat missions against the Japanese, the youngest Navy flier in the Pacific theater. He would fly 58 missions and be awarded the Navy’s Distinguished Flying Cross. On the last of these missions, on Sept. 2, 1944, his plane was shot down. His other two crewmen did not survive, but Bush was rescued by a U.S. submarine after floating for hours in the ocean.
He recounted his struggles while awaiting rescue: He vomited sea water, worried about sharks and Japanese patrol boats, cried while thinking of home, and agonized over whether he’d done all he could for his comrades in the ditched plane — a feeling that never entirely went away. But the frustrated tears of a downed combat pilot are not exactly what come to mind when one thinks of the word “wimp.”
“That’s an awful word to use — and we used it on the cover of Newsweek,” Evan Thomas, a former star writer at the magazine, conceded after Poppy Bush had left the White House. “It was too harsh a word.”
Read the rest – Romney, Bush and Newsweek’s “Wimp Factor”
Tags: Carl M. Cannon
I think the biggest wimp out there is Barack Obama who did not work a day in his life in private industry.
The irony here is incredible.
If I was locked in a room for a week I would
never come uo with wimp to descibe Romney.
However it would describe Obama right after lazy bum,
Marxist, Islamophile, money launderer and fraud.
@ RIX:
That would describe probably the entire New York Times newsroom as well as that of PMSNBC.
@ Speranza:
I would use the terms narcissist and sociopath when talking about bho before I would use the term wimp. Though wimp is on topic.
citizen_q wrote:
To me he is a mimbo -- a male bimbo.
Speranza wrote:
Ok, then what is mooch-hell?
Speranza wrote:
That issue has been rolling around in my head since earlier today.
With the new Solyndra information coming out that the loan went back to the White House when they were warned that Soyndra was insolvent, but floated the loan anyway should low hanging fruit for Romney and the RNC.
It present an incredible opportunity to contrast how the private sector succeeds, and the public sector fails. It should be taylor made for a commercial. We have an astronomical number (500,000,000.00) that is down the hole, but the taxpayers are on the hook for, and then Bain Capital that I am sure has many more success stories with less private money at risk, but paying off for the willing investor.
A ferociously stark contrast between someone who has never held a private sector job versus someone from the industry.
@ Formercorpsman:
Good point.
It has been my thought for a long time that there is so much low hanging fruit with which the bho admin can be rightly pilloried that a grade school class president candidate could mount an effective campaign.
But what do I know?
@ Formercorpsman:
accd to the romney campaign, the gloves will comr off very soon. why not email your idea to his campaign? they are taking suggestions!
How Ironic that people who have been actively working to feminize men would be so obsessed with characterizing their opponents as “wimps”!
@ coldwarrior:
It has crossed my mind. Truth be told, I have been pretty surprised at how they have actually decided to fight back considering McCain’s lame retorts in the last election.
You would have to think this must be on their radar, and I would just hope they are calculating how they spend the campaign money with time still on the clock.
@ Formercorpsman:
he cant tap into the really big bux$ till after he is officially the candidate. so stand by for 3 weeks!
@ citizen_q:
Exactly. If you go back and watch the videos of Reagan, the one thing he was a master at, was making not only the case for things such as the free market, but using the opposition’s record to contrast it. He let them make his argument for him.
Speranza wrote:
Yeah, they’re on the same team.
city of the dead
detroit
@ coldwarrior:
It should be interesting. I honestly think our state is in play.
@ Formercorpsman:
i am enjoying romney’s positive ‘america can be booming again’ message. it stands in sharp contrast to what the dems are saying
Formercorpsman wrote:
pa is in play. the polling numbers are skewed to the dems by about 5-7 points right now because of how the pollsters set up the poll.
they weighted the dems far higher and repubs far lower in the survey than they should be
@ coldwarrior:
Me too.
@ coldwarrior:
I read that Ulsterman Report every so often, and honestly take Buzz’s approach on the validity of it, but they had an interesting read on it the other day.
Essentially, the story went with how Romney’s campaign paid for the more expensive internal polling in a toss up state, the numbers came back better than anticipated, so for posterity they paid for a second, more concise internal poll with even more positive information than the first. This was leaked out to the Obama campaign, thus thinking they scored some intelligence info, only to be shaken by what the report showed.
Presumably, this is what preceeded his Roanoke speech chiding small business owners.
Story could be utter crap, but it is nice to think they might actually be that politically savvy.
@ Formercorpsman:
bho’s own words should be enough!
@ Formercorpsman:
i am liking what i am seeing so far from the romney camp. they appear to know what they are doing and are not taking the fool, john mccain approach to the race.
and with that i gotta go…12hrs in the bunker tonight. at least i get to bbq tomorrow after i get home in the AM and be off the rest of the weekend
see yinz!
@ coldwarrior:
I saw that. Was thinking about those pro-Detroit SuperBowl commercials.
@ Formercorpsman:
Hmm, political psyche warfare. I could learn to like this guy.
Getting on the road myself. Have a good one folks, maybe tonight if the wife lets me.
@ MacDuff:
I will try to dig up the link. It was an intersting read for none other than the concept alone.
I’ll catch up with you.
@ coldwarrior:
@ Formercorpsman:
Take care, see ya’all later.
Speranza wrote:
He even looks like a damn wimp. Or a Nancy like my husband would say.
He’d burst out crying (or whinning) like he does when things don’t go his way.
/he is the ultimate wimp. Stay Nancy my friends.
MacDuff wrote:
You are truthin!
@ RIX:
How yo be my brutha? Back at yo crib of da weekend?
RIX wrote:
Joined to the hip.
coldwarrior wrote:
Chicago is catching up to Detroit.
citizen_q wrote:
A sasqu-bo!
coldwarrior wrote:
Yeah when I think of the Detroit commerical …. I think of the town in California they filmed it in. Detroit is a wasteland now and it appears criminals are taking advantage of it.
Lily wrote:
Wasn’t Clint Eastwood in it?
MacDuff wrote:
True they are trying to make males wimpy…but for some reason it isn’t working on most males.
@ Speranza:
He narrated it.
Lily wrote:
Just like…RoboCop!
Speranza wrote:
I believe so. The long version of it that is. Plus it had eminem music to it…
Macker wrote:
I forgot, RoboCop WAS set in Detroit! Gotta give Hollywood credit, they saw THAT one coming!
MacDuff wrote:
Not his finest moment.
Speranza wrote:
He’s been partially assimilated into the Hollywood Borg.
Speranza wrote:
That’s what leftis ideas do to a city. Destroy it.
MacDuff wrote:
Yeah not all the way but partially.
Lily wrote:
Leftists and unions; a familial yet toxic mix.
MacDuff wrote:
Yo bro, back wit my homies, jes chillin & keepin
it real.
How by you?
Speranza wrote:
True.
RIX wrote:
Watching the passing scene like a macabre parade wondering “if we are reduced to standing in soup lines like back in the 30s, will we get to wear those cool fedoras?”
I’m thinking “yes”, so I feel much better, already.
Not much news about the Chic-fil-A “kiss in” protest today. I gather it didn’t go too well. Oh well.
@ Lily:
Yo, Marshall, it’s what you did before the Marxist Democrats destroyed your once incredible city. It isn’t what you do or who you are anymore. Now you’re just a bunch of dope fiend welfare queen gang bangin pimps and whores sucking what’s left of Michigan dry like vampires runnin wild in a crazy B rate movie.
This is rich…RNC sent bho a birthday cake…with a message. Good for them.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/03/rnc-sends-dnc-a-cake-for-obamas-birthday-with-you-didnt-bake-this-frosting/
@ doriangrey:
Yep he has kinda fallen off the map hasn’t he.
MacDuff wrote:
Van Jones..will you please just retire or go to another country?
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/03/van-jones-gop-tea-party-want-to-hurt-americans-economically-so-they-can-gain-politically/
Lily wrote:
Very funny!
@ Speranza:
Yeah they aren’t playing nicey-nicey…bho should be worried this isn’t 2008 ….Romney will bring the fight. Already he is messing with his head and it’s showing.
Lily wrote:
The Tea Party hasn’t really been making headlines of late, save relentless attacks from the Left. I’m getting a whiff of fear……
Still can’t find the big protest at Chic-fil-A’s..with there kiss-in.
@ MacDuff:
Nope the tea party is wisely staying low…but they are still there.
Yet they are blaming all types of horrible things onto the tea party.
/yes that is desperation you smell in the air and hopefully more mistakes will be made by bho…because you know he can’t help himself.
@ Lily:
and worse, BO is strapped for cash…in the end he’ll try to sell off his daughters…ah, the price of success
Lily wrote:
It must have…sucked!
Speranza wrote:
He did:
Funniest thing I’ve heard today…..
From IowaHawk: “Sewing a rainbow flag onto your brown shirt does not make you Gandhi.”
Beautiful.
MacDuff wrote:
Iowahawk is something else.
@ Guggi:
lawyer?…by that standard Al Capone had a job too…anyway young Barack hated the job because it involved capitalism
Lily wrote:
As long as they buy some food.
@ Speranza:
Pity he’s mostly given up the constant long pieces.
Guggi wrote:
A firm run by LBJ’s FCC director, Newton Minow, father of public broadcasting. A firm which also employed Bill Ayers’ wife Bernardine Dohrn.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
The Ozzie and Harriet of American terrorists.
heysoos wrote:
That is because he has been spending like crazy even with the media giving him a free pass…it still isn’t working. Because honestly he is a wimp and it’s time for him to go in the dust bins of history. He just can’t help himself showing his disdain towards the United States.
Macker wrote:
Guggi wrote:
Of course he hated it…it was kinda like work.
/he was hired to help write and edit newsletters and he hated it and we are expected to believe he wrote his own book??? Yeah right!
Speranza wrote:
Yep but apparently there wasn’t a big turn-out of protesters. All this did was to wake the sleeping Americans and give a huge boost to Chic-Fil-A’s profit.
/even my mother thought it was insane and she leans very liberal. She said “It’s a free world and we are supposed to be able to have free speech and what in the world is wrong with believing in a ‘traditional family?’…..yeah obama is losing his base…maybe not the hardcore lunatic fringe…but he is losing voters right and left.
Lily wrote:
I suspect that their commissars were afraid that the comrades would give in to temptation and buy some delicious poultry sandwiches. lol
Lily wrote:
They probably paid him $18,000 a year to sharpen pencils, Xerox papers, and go for coffee.
“Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor—but we respectfully decline to risk our auto paint.”
Why I Fear Placing a Romney Bumper Sticker on My Car.
Why I Will Place a Romney Sticker on My Car.
Allen West saying what needs to be said. Oh and Allen West is no wimp either.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Huh? They really do think the obamabots are dangerous and frankly who knows. I do believe a lot of people who say they will vote obama really are voting Romney. Because obama is dangerous…no one wants to appear dangerous or have their car keyed..but their vote will count in the booth.
Speranza wrote:
I’m sure he showed up late..took long lunches and left early. He really hates to work unless he is campagining and taking peoples money then it’s cool.
Lily wrote:
I recommend you read the comments in both threads.
Speranza wrote:
That damn Aflac duck kept following him around saying, “Aff(irmative)/Ac(tion)!”
Speranza wrote:
If my mother condemns this…the worm is really turning…she votes straight democrat no matter what. This time I think she will either not vote or vote Romney. Oh and she said something about extremist Islamist’s too. I was shocked. Suddenly she is studying religions and have finally come to the conclusion that all religions aren’t the same or extremist.
/good heavens maybe the world will end on Dec. 2012…with my mother taking this type of opinion.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Will do. I glanced at it.
@ Lily:
Hahahaha!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Just got finished reading the comments peoples cars are actually being damaged. Not to mention people are afraid to express their political opinions because of what the obamabots will do. What a sad day.
/I see most of those concerned are on the Coast or up north…hey I don’t feel any fear putting one on around where I live. So far I am starting to see signs…I WILL VOTE FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. No obama signs at all.
Dolphin wrote:
Yeah the RNC is messing with his head…and he can’t handle that!
@ Lily:
I’ve met you mother Lily.
Are you sure that’s your real mom and not someone else who took over her body?
Finally got off my A** and put my NRA / OFF stickers on my car (oregon firearms federation). Need to add some ABO and Romney.
/ftff
Calo wrote:
I know {{Calo}}! I was completely SHOCKED!!! To say the least.
@ Calo:
She is up in Amish country right now and admires their conservative ways…which took me for a loop. God must of whacked her during one of her Rosary’s.
/it’s the only explanation.
@ CynicalConservative:
You in Oregon? I grew up near Eugene.
Lily wrote:
As I said there, I have no objection with someone choosing not to put a sticker on their car; that’s a private decision, and many factors—including the possibility of vandalism or worse—go into making it. Private choice? No problem.
My problem is with the public announcement of the decision, which amounts to seeking validation from others, and ends up persuading others to take the less-courageous course, and that they are justified in doing so. That is why I included examples of people who knew the risks and decided they’d go ahead anyway.
@ Dolphin:
Transplant, pronland suburbs.
/lurk
@ buzzsawmonkey:
The only explanation is they are WEAK AND REFUSE TO LOOK AT EVIL IN THE EYE AND FIGHT IT.
/me I’ll risk my car getting keyed. I’ll also report it too. But the risk I’m taking is low…living in the deep south and around the Gulf Coast. The Gulf Coast states have NO LOVE FOR OBAMA. PERIOD.
@ CynicalConservative:
My sincere apologies. I got out of there at 19. I saw where things were headed and got to Texas!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
It is their choice indeed. The one up-shot to this is obama campagin will not be able to actually know how much American’s don’t like him and his politic’s. Which may be good.
Lily wrote:
I won’t comment on the implications, but you might find this interesting… http://www.propublica.org/article/is-your-neighbor-a-democrat-obama-has-an-app-for-that
Lily wrote:
We looked to Obama to do something different
But he’s never run anything, and so he let it go
He spent his time hitting balls out on the golf course
He fumbled and he diddled and he let the oil flow…
—”The Battle of New Oil-Leans,” with apologies to Johnny Horton and “The Battle of New Orleans”
@ Dolphin:
Someday.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
responded to you on the Myra Adams thread #23
Someone mentioned you have an opinion about the Ulsterman Report? I’d like to hear it, if you don’t mind.
I was skeptical at first. I’m becoming less so.
brookly red wrote:
And once again, Harvard gives us douchebag fascist wannabees:
@ brookly red:
Sorry that will not work in Louisiana…for one many here are democrats who vote Republican. Why? A weird law. If you registered as a Republican you can only vote Republican..if you registar as a democrat you can vote either way….but I do understand it is bad for other states.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
some of the reader comments were priceless…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Yep that is about it and many other things too.
Lily wrote:
well kinda the same here I have to register D to vote in the primaries , for example I voted Jeffries over Barron in the primary come election day I will pull the R lever (if it’s not glued down again)no matter who’s name is next to it.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
No it is creepy not because it is something new. It is creepy in the way if your neighbor isn’t a democrat you need to go and talk to them or knock some sense in them. Right now the democrats are making it out that Republicans are evil thrust from hell. Guess what they are Americans too.
brookly red wrote:
That is against the law a glued down lever. I have never experienced that here…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I liked your comment #15 there.
“Some people think that preserving the Constitution is more important than having to go to Earl Scheib.”
eaglesoars wrote:
I saw—thanks! I was pretty blunt there, but there was no way I could see to sugarcoat things.
Regarding Ulsterman, I don’t care for the format at all; I get the feeling sometimes that the overabundance of profanity, apology backchat and homina-hominas are there to make something concocted sound authentic. This makes me mistrust the content—and I have to wonder why, if someone is that far inside the White House, they’d be willing to talk to Ulsterman at all; how they managed to stay there; also why, if such a person has done some of the things it’s hinted that they’ve done, and the opinions of other insiders alluded to is as suggested, why Obama is still alive, or capable of fulfilling his minimal duties. One gets the impression that some of the Praetorian Guard not only would like to, but are capable of, slipping something very nasty into his drink. They haven’t? Why not, if they are that appalled by him? Is the best they can do sit there and watch in horror while leaking to a semi-obscure blog?
I mistrust the site, too, because it seems to be perfectly calculated to feed the paranoia and worst fears of so many. That doesn’t make anything posted there wrong/inaccurate, of course—but there are plenty of people who could concoct such seeming interviews merely by a close reading of some of the uglier elements of the news and some equally ugly rumors.
So, I will read Ulsterman, from time to time, and add its hints and implications to the mix, but I take it with a big fat double heaping spoonful of salt, at best.
Lily wrote:
Creepy? what about illegal, secret ballots and all…
on the other hand criminals are not always stupid, if I was looking for a location where I was pretty sure the occupant didn’t own a gun, well there is an app for that…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Bloomie is gonna get yooooou.
@ brookly red:
Sorry forgot to mention illegal too to that post. But it is illegal.
I simply took from my point of view..that really most people where I live will not go and talk to their neighbor just because they aren’t democrat…mainly because most democrats here vote Republican and it is heavily Catholic to boot.
Lily wrote:
well it came out of 0′s white house, I guess we can just assume illegal is a given…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Which is where i stood -- until the WHI report from 2011 that confirmed the Miniter book just released about Valerie Jarrett/bin Laden rain.
And the WHI does not work in the WH -- he’s a political op. We know a lot of people like that, so I find it plausible.
@ brookly red:
Oh and sense I’m in the south…especially the deep south as Carolina Girl put it very well even if I live in town…if my dog doesn’t get you the shotgun will.
So if you want to put your political views out in the yard with a sign..fine. But don’t go knocking at doors and demand you vote for obama you will get the door slammed in your face and the dog will be barking really loud too!
The only person who has come to my door lately maybe last year was a Jewish person who was handing out pamplets for the tea party candidate for mayor. The only way I knew he was Jewish was I reckonized his tattoo on his arm as hebrew. We had a very nice chat to be honest and it was a joy to talk to him..since I was voting for the tea party candidate anyway.
eaglesoars wrote:
Either way an interesting read none the less…so you think it is plausible? I read it. Interesting.
Lily wrote:
interesting… Jewish law forbids tattoos.
brookly red wrote:
Well illegal is what that administration does best.
@ eaglesoars:
Oh, I agree fully with the view expressed at Ulsterman, that Obama is a huge threat to this country; that he is probably largely a puppet, and that it is the people around him who are the real problem; etc.
It is precisely because I so agree with what is said there that I view it with caution—and because I have to wonder, if the people who speak to Ulsterman are indeed such insiders, are in agreement that Obama and his gang are a threat, and have the kind of resources that such insiders must have in order to be such insiders, why the hell they are not trumpeting these truths from the rooftops using every possible resource at their disposal.
brookly red wrote:
must not have been an orthodox
@ Lily:
You are keeping an eye on Ernesto right?
@ brookly red:
He had one and I asked if it was hebrew and he said yes..and he confirmed he was Jewish…I don’t remember what the tattoo meant but it was religious. He told me what it said..but I have forgotten. I just remember asking him if that was hebrew the tattoo on his arm.
Dolphin wrote:
{{Dolphin}} I know it’s out there..too soon to know what it will do yet. August and Septemeber are the worst months for hurricane season.
So yeah I am aware of it … as always.
@ Lily:
I figured as much!
I wish it would come in between Corpus and the valley. Not much there and they are in so much need of the water.
brookly red wrote:
Don’t know just know it was a hebrew tattoo. He was young. I say between 26-30.
@ Dolphin:
I’ll keep a better eye on it as it gets closer…it could fizzle out..get stronger …. go a different way …no telling with those storms.
brookly red wrote:
Okay I didn’t read this comment correctly no he wasn’t orthodox..for sure.
Lily wrote:
it is a strange world, plenty for American kids have Chinese character tattoos and have no idea what they mean, they just know it’s cool. I worked with a woman who got one one her ankle cause she thought it looked cool… imagine her regret when she found out it meant “prostitute”.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Don’t want to be labeled racist?? Who knows.
@ CynicalConservative:
My 22nd tonight.
I’m outta here.
Your turn next Friday.
@ brookly red:
I know I don’t get the coolness of chinese tat’s….but hebrew yeah I can admire.
/tatoo free here.
Okay got to go…have a good evening all.
/never know might be back tonight…it’s Friday…but if I’m not have a good day tomorrow too!
@ Calo:
Well congratulations!!!!!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
you mean like the media?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Because Obama and his minions are thugs. These people would like to keep on working and in the case of WSI die with their integrity and public reputation unsullied.
What they did to Herman Caine was child’s play.
Why is Rob Blagojavich the ONLY person in jail for doing the same thing every Chicago pol has done for generations? Because that’s where Obama wanted him.
Promise.
eaglesoars wrote:
right fuckin on
Lily wrote:
The only person I have ever seen with Hebrew letter tattoos was a young lady who worked in a Krav Maga school here in PHX. She had little Hebrew letters in a ring around her bicep. I guess they meant “can o’ whoop-ass, Israeli style”
American kids get Chinese/Japanese letter tattoos because they think it means “bad ass martial artist” or “cool zen buddhist dude/dudette.”
In Japan, tattoos are looked down on, only the Yakuza have them.
The Osprey wrote:
if she was a wannabe that’s nice, if she was ex-IDF show proper respect.
The Osprey wrote:
was her name Annie by any chance?
eaglesoars wrote:
I think that the last 4 out of 7 Illinois governors have spent time in jail.
Speranza wrote:
Really? I thought it was 7 out of 7.
eaglesoars wrote:
time to go. Have a good evening everyone!
@ brookly red:
I have no idea what her name was. This was several years ago right after I moved to Phoenix. I ended up not taking classes there because their insurance would not allow anyone on medication (I take blood pressure meds) to enroll.
brookly red wrote:
Illinois makes New Jersey seem a model of political decency.
Speranza wrote:
Louisiana too!
The Osprey wrote:
I enrolled and I am on blood pressure medication.
Speranza wrote:
well it’s the same for NY, CA, PA etc. there are a lot of decent people who live there but they are eclipsed numerically by the inner city even without the impact of illegals and or voter fraud…
The Osprey wrote:
may I suggest Tai Chi Chaun? a superior martial art that actually lowers blood pressure
The Osprey wrote:
Was it these letters? ששת הימים, כלבה!