The key sentence is in the very first paragraph (emphasis added) in which VDH not only accurately describes Barack Obama, but the Islamic world as well. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak once described negotiating with them (and even though he was talking about Palestinians it is the same as dealing with people such as Obama) as being:
The products of a culture in which to tell a lie…creates no dissonance. They don’t suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judeo-Christian culture. Truth is seen as an irrelevant category. There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn’t. They see themselves as emissaries of a national movement for whom everything is permissible. There is no such thing as ‘the truth’.
For post modernists there is no truth.
by Victor Davis Hanson
The chief tenet of postmodernism is that truth and facts are arbitrary constructs, set up by the privileged to manipulate others less fortunate. In the case of our first postmodernist president, Barack Obama, there cannot be facts, past or present, only a set of shifting assertions that gain credence to the degree that they prove transitorily useful for progressive causes. A sympathetic biographer, David Maraniss, noted that almost all the touchstone events in Barack Obama’s mythographic memoir were fabricated. Of course, Obama would object to such a value-laden term and instead call them composites, impressions stitched together and presented as truth to serve the higher moral narrative: a young biracial idealist searching for his identity in a mostly racist and oppressive America. To the degree that Dreams from My Father enhanced that narrative, then all of what was in it was “true” — even the literary agent’s bio attesting that the exotic author was born in faraway Kenya.
For the fabulist Obama, the past is a vague mess with shifting narratives that can serve noble contemporary causes. Take World War II — the old war that supposedly proves that victory is now an obsolete term, since, as Obama explained, Japanese Emperor Hirohito capitulated to General MacArthur, apparently on the deck of the Missouri, in a rare act never to happen again. Obama’s own grandfather was in the forefront of stopping Nazism, and the more dramatic the circumstances the better — so who cares whether the Russians, and not an American unit, liberated Auschwitz and Treblinka?
Indeed, the war is a sort of a vague haze where Nazi death camps become “Polish” and Pearl Harbor was hit with “the bomb.” If it is useful while speaking in Cairo to pretend that the Islamic world helped to prompt the European Renaissance (which benefitted enormously from the flight of Greek scholars as Constantinople was threatened by the Ottoman Turks) and Enlightenment (which ignited a Romantic interest in freeing Greece from Islam), then so be it. If Córdoba had few, if any, Muslims during the Spanish Inquisition, who cares, if we wish to hold up the Muslims there as beacons of tolerance in comparison to murderous Catholics?
No American has any idea whether recess appointments, executive privilege, executive orders, or filibusters are to be considered good, bad, or indifferent, since Senator/President Obama has damned and embraced them all. I vaguely remember that at one time Guantanamo, renditions, tribunals, and preventive detention were either of no value or unconstitutional, and trying Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a civilian court and prosecuting CIA agents for supposedly too harsh interrogations were good. But that was all more than three years in the past, and hundreds of “Make no mistake about it”s and “Let me be perfectly clear”s ago.
[.......]
The Obama health-care plan was once different from Hillary Clinton’s in that it never included an individual mandate, but then it did have a mandate, then it had a tax instead, and it ended up with a penalty. The only constant is that names change as circumstances dictate. Barack Obama does not take money from oil companies, hire lobbyists, approve of earmarks, or raise money from Wall Street, but somebody with that name did. The new civility is “punish our enemies.” Voter intimidation is asking for an ID at the polls — it is not trying to make it more difficult for those in the military to vote. Developing domestic energy means canceling the Keystone pipeline and putting vast areas of federal lands off limits to gas and oil production. If the private sector goes ahead, despite federal regulations and discouragement, with new fracking and horizontal drilling, then the Obama administration achieved record levels of domestic oil and gas production.
Someone said something about cutting the deficit in half within four years and, through borrowing, forcing unemployment under 6 percent, but I am not sure any more who it was — given that that was 42 months of 8 percent–plus unemployment and $5 trillion in borrowed money ago.
No one knows what “reset” with Russia was, or is, or will be; it didn’t so much fail as simply got erased. Nor can anyone figure out whether the dissidents in the streets of Tehran in 2009 were noble or to be ignored, or why exactly we belatedly supported the ouster of Mubarak, or what exactly turned Qaddafi from a monstrous oil exporter who had to be appeased to a really monstrous oil exporter who had to be removed, or why we had to reopen our embassy in Damascus as a gesture to the “reformer” Assad, who is now a murderous non-reformer who must go.
I am sure Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush flip-flopped and did things that they had said they would not, but there was always the clear sense that their hypocrisies were adjudicated by some sort of standard. With President Obama there is neither a reality nor a standard, just words that so often have no connection to the real world, past or present.
Read the rest – Obama in never, never land
Tags: Victor Davis Hanson
I saw that Obama ad that claims that Romney was responsible for a woman’s death by cancer -- that is even more despicable then the 1964 “Daisy” ad.
@ Speranza:
That ad was from A Super Pac, Not the Obama campaign. The Daisy Ad comparison is not comparable.
@ Speranza:
As I’ve been saying it is going to be the nastiest campaign ever in American history. I expect more ads claiming Romney will do all sorts of vile things. Romney needs to get angry about this. He needs to reply in kind. Obama is the worst president in the history of the United States. Romney needs to make the case against Obama as plain as is possible. He’ll be called a RAAAAACIST for doing so, but he is going to be called a RAAAAACIST anyway. That is going to be key to Obama’s campaign against him.
Speranza wrote:
Even CNN is debunking that ad.
theoutsider wrote:
Excuse me but where is Obama denouncing it? The ad claims that Romney was responsible for her death. Guess what? Romney left Bain in 1999 to successfully run the Olympics at Salt lake City, the plant closed in 2002 after several years of being kept open despite falling numbers and she found another job with health insurance and then a few years later sadly developed cancer. Nice try at parsing things.
An old joke from 1968
“I was told that if I voted for Goldwater we would wind up with over half a million troops fighting in Vietnam and they were right, because I voted for Goldwater and we have over half a million troops fighting in Vietnam”.
I can’t wait until we PUNISH this arrogant motherfucker!
@ eaglesoars:
Chicago thug politics at its “finest”.
Iron Fist wrote:
Since he cannot talk about this record he will try to “Al Capone” Romney.
@ Speranza:
Obama has nothing to do with this ad. The Super pacs are not affiliated with the official campaigns.
@ eaglesoars:
@ Speranza:
@ Macker:
I was at a GOP meet up last night. Many are pissed that Romney is not fighting back. There was a Rep from the Romney campaign there and he got an earful from people. The Republicans around here want Romney to go after Obama personally. It’s time to fight back. Some are even getting demoralized and feel its 2008 again.
theoutsider wrote:
Technically true. But the ‘borders’ are rather porous. The head of that pack is Bill Burton, who was in WH communications.
Rodan wrote:
Hubby was complaining about just that this morning. Said Romney is operating from defense.
@ Speranza:
Are you going to blame all the misleading statements coming from American Crossroads, and Americans For Prosperity on the Romney campaign?
@ Iron Fist:
See my #10. Many Republicans by me want Blood. They want Romney to launch an assault on Obama the person. Many are starting to think its 2008 again.
@ eaglesoars:
Exactly. When he attacks Obama its on policies. That’s all well in good, but he needs to start attacking Obama the man. That’s wjhy I refer to Obama as the god-king. Both Democrats and Republicans treat hi om as a divine entity. It’s making me so angry. There are so many things you can attack Obama to destroy him personally.
@ theoutsider:
What’s misleading>? Have any of them accused Obama of killing people?
Someone who lost his own wife has called in to Chris Plante’s radio show asking how the hell that widower in the ad can exploit his own wife for political purposes. Literally, the caller is choking back tears.
Rodan wrote:
I don’t think that’s necessary. Hell, you can get him on his unconsitutional executive orders.
Yu@ Rodan:
The big thing is that Romney has to wait until after the convention to really be able to take the gloves off. Until then he is hamstrung by campaign finance laws. He is raising a ton of money, but he can’t use it yet. It isn’t 2008,if only for the fact that Romney opted out of public financing of his campaign. Obama can’t fight a fair fight. I think he’s going to lose in the fall.
@ eaglesoars:
I do. Obama is symbol, you need to destroy that symbol.
One example: Run an ad where Obama is talking about that where he wuill heal the sick, make the oceans recede and the earth will heal. Then show people drowning, the wars and people dying of sickness. Then say, Obama promised to end this. He hasn’t. He lies.
That would be very damaging.
@ Iron Fist:
Romney can still call out the lies. he hasn’t. He thinks running ads about welfare reform being gutted will win it. It won’t. He needs to destroy the Obama as lightworker symbol. The politics of personal destruction is the way to win.
Rodan wrote:
For Romney. An ad like that would piss off a lot of people who like Obama as a person. Romney needs those votes
@ Rodan:
I’m not defending that Ad, Rodan. I’m just saying that the American Crossroads and Americans for Prosperity ads have been far more dishonest.
Iron Fist wrote:
When everything is racist, nothing is racist.
The charge of racism has lost all meaning as far as I am concerned by overuse. Not only overuse but baseless overuse by the left as a proxy tactic for a substantive rebuttal.
I worked for Xerox in the early 80′s. The cautioned us over and over again to never refer to a photocopy as a Xerox for fear of losing the value of their trademark.
@ eaglesoars:
You need to make those people hate Obama. That is the only way to win this. You need to destroy Obama. Use his own words against him. He’s a treasure trove of words.
Right now, Obama is destroying Romney the man.
theoutsider wrote:
I believe you. Obama is such a lazy twerp. So lazy he won’t get around to condemning you
Rodan wrote:
I understand your point. But I just don’t think it would work. If they haven’t caught on by now, I don’t think there’s much hope.
eaglesoars wrote:
After 3 1/2 years of misery, Obama’s record should be well known to all.
@ Iron Fist:
It’s very possible, given the trends in fundraising for both sides, that Обама might even run out of money for advertising. And since both sides have opted out, do you think there’s a chance that McStain-Feingold could even get repealed?
@ eaglesoars:
He has the popular culture behind him. What stuns me is how many Conservatives (not you) don’t realize how powerful a force this is. Hence why your statement about being careful in personally attacking Obama could backfire.
@ Speranza:
We are dealing with a cult. This is a result of in 1992, the GOP starting their stupid culture war. It’s backfired and now we are seeing the consequences. popular Culture is squarely in Obama’s camp and this is keeping him afloat.
theoutsider wrote:
Well if the situation was reversed you now damn well that George W. Bush would be excoriated for it and if a Republican Super PAC put out a scurrilous piece of filth like that with an ad claiming that John Kerry or Barack Obama was responsible for a woman’s cancer death, John McCain would be out front (as usual because he is a d-bag) denouncing it (like he stupidly did when the North Carolina GOP put out an ad in 2008 correctly tying Obama to Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers).
Rodan wrote:
Bernie Goldberg said on Monday on O’Reilly that the media is Obama’s most loyal base because they invested so much in him four years ago.
@ Speranza:
Yup, he is their beloved Pharaoh. They created the conditions for Obama and have a major stake in him.
@ Speranza:
Obama’s failed green wastefulness is responsible for untold numbers of deaths
Speranza wrote:
Roger Simon has a good piece on this.
Fear and Shame on the Campaign Trail
@ Macker:
I don’t think that you’ll see McCain-Feingold repealed, but it already doesn’t matter. The SuperPACs are one results of that slimey piece of legislation. No matter how much the incumbents may want it, you just can’t meaningfully restrict political speech.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Fast & Furious.
@ eaglesoars:
Great piece.
Rodan wrote:
Is he Ramses or Akhenatom?
@ Speranza:
Interview a few Mexican families and have them say Obama killed their relative.
@ Speranza:
Well, A bunch of scumbags did come out in 2004, and say that John Kerry was not a war hero. They actually questioned his patriotism , and they were led by the draft dodgers Karl Rove, George W Bush, and Richard Cheney.
@ Speranza:
Good question. He really doesn’t any compassion to any historical Pharaoh, except for the god-king worship the Left has. In reality Obama is more like several Roman Emperors. Caligula is the best match.
@ theoutsider:
How about that Draft Dodger Bill Clinton?
@ Macker:
I don’t think that you’ll see McCain -Feingold repealed, but it already doesn’t matter. The SuperPACs are one results of that slimey piece of legislation. No matter how much the incumbents may want it, you just can’t meaningfully restrict political speech.
If this is true, I am pulling for Paul Ryan.
Pawlenty and Portman are boring lame Progressives. No thanks.
@ theoutsider:
Wrong! They were led by tfk. tfk is no draft dodger
Rodan wrote:
Domitian comes to mind -- paranoid, vindictive and who wanted to be addressed by the title of “Dominus et Deus” which means “Lord and God”.
Rodan wrote:
ugh. just. ugh.
@ Rodan:
I’m not excusing him.
theoutsider wrote:
No they were not scum bags. I do recall seeing Kerry on TV on 1971 call his comrades rapists and murderers and I saw him throw his medals at the White House. Facts are stubborn thinds ain’t they?
@ Rodan:
Ryan would be the only one of those who would excite me. Pawlenty is out. Michelle Bachmann cut his balls off during the primaries. Picking him brings nothing to the ticket. Ryan brings the base. If those are really the final three Ryan is the obvious choice. I wish he’d hurry up and announce it already. I am tired of waiting.
While Barack Obama was smoking pot and dong some “blow” -- the object of his scorn Benjamin Netanyahu at the same age in his life was in the Israeli commandos participating in hostage rescues.
Netanyahu and Obama at a similar time in their lives
Well, well, well. Looky here.
@ Iron Fist:
I agree. Ryan it is if that’s the final 3.
eaglesoars wrote:
So he’s a professional douche bag exploiting his wife’s death?
@ Speranza:
Domitian it is!
@ Rodan:
I think it’s going to be Pawlenty. I’ve been saying that all along. If it is, I’m not going to come here and gloat, but if it is not, I am going to come here and let you guy’s tell me how wrong I was.
@ Speranza:
Just like that idiot Congresswoman from Long Island, Carolyn McCarthy. She took advantage of her husband’s death in the 93 LIRR shooting to get in Congress.
@ eaglesoars:
This is unraveling even faster then the Killian document forgeries and to think Charles Johnson had nothing to do with this! lol
@ theoutsider:
Hey look at the bright-side. Either way a Liberal will win in November. Romney and Pawlenty are men of the Left. You Liberals have this election sewed up one way or another. If Obama wins, he’s your guy. If Romney wins, he’s your guy also.
@ Speranza:
Charles Johnson claims this ad was the greatest he has ever seen.
Rodan wrote:
Yeah that was despicable -- I do remember that. Is she still even in congress? A liberal Democrat the late William Kunstler was the lawyer for the killer of her husband.
Rodan wrote:
They plant their eggs like the Cuckoo birds do
@ Speranza:
Yes she is still in Congress.
Didn’t Colin Ferguson (The shooter) fire him and represented himself?
Rodan wrote:
Watch him bend over backwards to defend it even though it has been shown to be a lie and even the Obama administration is trying to say they had nothing to do with it (liars!).
Rodan wrote:
I am not sure. The fact of the matter is that Democratic activists defended him.
@ Speranza:
Charles worships the American Domitian.
@ theoutsider:
How do you get more dishonest than claiming someone is responsible for someone’s death? I gotta hear this. Examples please.
Speranza wrote:
yes. still pushing gun control crappola that never works. I thought the LIRR shooter defended himself?
@ theoutsider:
I hope you are wrong. If you are right, I’ll begin to suspect that we’re going to see a reprise of the 2008United campaign because Pawlenty brings nothing to the ticket.
theoutsider wrote:
Don’t worry -- the person taking the oath of office in January 2013 will be a liberal no matter what, so gloat now and save your self the bother.
Kafir wrote:
There are the videos at the link I provided at #54
eaglesoars wrote:
She has had a singularly undistinguished career in congress.
@ eaglesoars:
Yes he did!
@ Speranza:
Exactly. Romney is a Progressive, a man of the Left. He’s the type of Republican Democrats say they wish we would run so they can vote for the GOP. Well here is their dream candidate. yet they are still being vicious.
Moral of the story, the GOP needs to elect Economic Conservatives as their nominee.
@ Speranza:
The guys in the Swiftboat ads were scumbags and liars. It is absolutely fair to call Kerry out on his 1971 testimony. I understand that. My dad was a Vietnam Veteran.
uh oh
Rob Portman Was Registered Foreign Agent For Haitian Dictator
Baby Doc
eaglesoars wrote:
Portman is a Transnationalist.
Rodan wrote:
I did not know that.
@ eaglesoars:
Most people associated with the Bush Clan are Transnationalist
@ theoutsider:
So what did they lie about specifically?
theoutsider wrote:
What fucking planet do you live on? John Kerry was a fucking traitor and a war criminal, he wasn’t a war hero. The Swift Boat Veterans against Kerry WERE NOT led by, supported by or endorsed by Rove, Bush or Cheney.
What they were was men who had actually served with John Fucking Kerry in Vietnam. Who personally knew him and knew exactly what kind of “Winter” Solider he was.
theoutsider wrote:
Hey they hanged Kerry with his own words and as I wrote before, facts are stubborn things.
So your dad served in Vietnam, so did John McCain -- I had two distant cousins (full disclosure -- I never met either of them) one on my father’s side the other on my mom’s side who were killed in Vietnam -- that does not give me or you the right to say false things. I also had a first cousin named Jackie who served in the Navy in Vietnam.
@theoutsider
Did John Kerry compare the “atrocities” of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam to the hordes of Genghis Khan or not?
theoutsider wrote:
Pull your head out of your ass, the Swift Boat Veterans did not lie about Kerry and your dad being a veteran means exactly nothing with regards to you. My dad was a Vietnam veteran and I lived through the Vietnam war in Military housing, but that does not qualify me to say one word about what my dad experienced as if that word were somehow factual. All I can give are second hand hearsay accounts of what my dad experienced, and that all you can give either.
Those Swift Boat Veterans on the other hand, (several of whom I actually knew) were not giving second hand hearsay accounts. They were there and their accounts were first hand factual accounts of the events that took place.
@ Speranza:
He’s busy looking up his Think Progress talking points.
@ doriangrey:
He can’t handle the truth.
eaglesoars wrote:
We don’t need another Bushie.
MRC’s Special report
MRC Special Report: The Media’s Obama Miracle
How Journalists Pretend There Aren’t Any White House Scandals
Rodan wrote:
Ok -- he can get back to me on my lunch break.
I remember seeing Kerry’s testimony before congress in the Spring of 1971 on TV.
Rodan wrote:
I guess John “my friends” McCain did not fit the bill for them last time.
@ 42 theoutsider: TFK has an opinion on that for yah and for who the real scumbags are. Get with the program.
Barry the Choomer
—apologies to Cab Calloway and “Minnie the Moocher”
Folks, now, here’s a story ’bout Barry the Choomer
He is a tail-end Baby Boomer
He slacked off on his schooling everywhere he went
But he rode his race to the office of President
High-de-high-de-high
Blow-de-blow-de-blow
Sleazy sleazy sleazy sleazy
Chi-ca-go
He hung out with all of the Marxist academics
Used a Teleprompter to make populist polemics
His economic policies made misery everywhere
So he tried class war on “millionaires and billionaires”
Lie-de-lie-de-lie
No-no-no-de-grow
Squeezy squeezy squeezy squeezy
Lots of show
The process of governing was way beyond his talents
So he ignored the Constitution’s check and balance
Instead of passing a budget for every year
He ran the national debt up to the stratosphere
Buy-de-buy-de-buy
Who cares where it goes?
Just show me another rathole
Where cash I can throw
Now he’s spending madly so he can win re-election
Wants four more years to bring his policies to perfection
Even if the damage he’s done only makes you squirm
Just imagine what he’ll wreak if there’s a second term
Cry-cry-cry-de-cry
No-no-no-de-no
Vote-de-vote-de-vote-de-votey
Out he goes
@ eaglesoars:
The media are just propagandist for the Regime.
Acaller on Chris Plante’s radio show said she was in downtown in Silver Spring MD (right by the metro station) with 4 other people who were holding up Romney support signs. Said she expected to be spit on etc.
Nope. Said all they got were thumbs up and supporting honks
For people who don’t know, Silver Spring is in Montgomery County -- think Berkley on the Potomac.
eaglesoars wrote:
Silver Spring -- right on the red line of the D.C. metro I believe.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
nice
Kerry has been in the Senate for decades and I do not recall any significant piece of legislation he has authored.
eaglesoars wrote:
My friend lives in Gaithersburg -- works for the Treasury Department, and that is in Montgomery County too. when I originally met her she was middle of the road, now a full blown liberal. Still I love her!
heh
The Deadly Impact of President Obama’s Economic Policies: 59,757 Needless Deaths…and CountingAugust 8, 2012 by Dan Mitchell
double heh
h/t Glenn
Speranza wrote:
Yep. She said they were at the corner of Colesville and Georgia.
I lived on Colesville for a few years close enough to walk to the metro.
Journalists were always corrupt whores; for a superb and amusing explication of this, dig up a copy of the original film of The Front Page, written by former newsman Ben Hecht.
There are, however, two major differences between the corrupt-whore journalist of the past and the corrupt-whore journalist of the present day. First, the old-line journalists were generally of working class or lower-middle-class background; they’d grown up in a rough-and-tumble world where getting a reporter’s job was just another opportunity for a high-school graduate, back in the days when a high-school diploma meant you were actually reasonably literate. They did not grow up in the rarefied upper-middle-class bubble of today’s college-educated—which is to say, Marxist-indoctrinated—journalists. They started out on police beats, or even—going farther back—as picture-stealers (it used to be customary, in the days before easy photography, for reporters to steal wedding pictures of people thrust into the news, so as to have an image to print in the paper).
Second, the old-line journalists knew they were whores. There was none of this nonsense about the “objectivity” of the press; the journalist knew that his employer had a company line and, while he stuck to the company line he knew that was what it was. Today’s journos have convinced themselves to believe their own hype—they don’t even know there is a company line because they all toe to it, and they’ve all bought their own “objectivity” myth.
@ eaglesoars:
Rockville, Maryland is also on the Red Line and has some Civil War plaques in town near the metro station. During the Gettysburg Campaign, Jeb Stuart took his cavalry on an ultimately pointless ride around the Union Army and clashed with Federal Cavalry in Rockville.
Rodan wrote:
Like most of you know, I’m a now grown Navy Brat who lived in Navy Housing during the Vietnam War. My Dad was stationed in San Diego California in 1970 and I lived in the Largest Military housing complex on Earth until 1979.
I grew up knowing the Swifties, many of them were literally my next door neighbors. When John fucking Kerry gave his “Winter Solider” testimony before congress I watched his former Swift Boat crew members go out of their minds over the distortions and outright lies he told.
If you have never heard a seriously pissed off drunk sailor go on a cussing rant you probably will never understand where the phrase cussing like a sailor comes from, if you have heard it, then you have a damned good idea what John fucking Kerry’s former fellow Swift Boat crew members sounded like when Kerry testified before congress.
When John fucking Kerry ran for president and the Swift Boat veterans opposed him I got the chance to connect with men who I had not seen in nearly 35 years. Those men hated John fucking Kerry then for being a lying traitorous douche bag, and that hatred never abated in the slightest.
They hated him for lying to congress, they hated him for meeting with the North Vietnamese in France and attempting to betray America and they hated him for throwing his medals (Which he never deserved) over the Whitehouse Gate.
Speranza wrote:
Yeah, I know, been there. But Rockville is a nightmare vis a vis traffic these days. I avoid it.
That was our first Border’s bookstore. I was there lots!
@ Speranza:
I am a citizen of Cuba on the Chesapeake.
I see fools all of time with bumper stickers like “Proud to be a Democrat”.
OTOH, there is this quy who has a Farm bordering I70 West of Frederick who puts out anti-Obama signs all the time. His latest that I have seen is a picture of Geithner and Obama labeled Economic Idiots, held high and proud with a piece of heavy equipment.
@ eaglesoars:
Obama is a murderer!
doriangrey wrote:
I bet they just loved his smirking “reporting for duty” salute at the Democratic Convention.
@ doriangrey:
sugar coat it why doncha?
off to get food. brb
just on CNN a young black man has a popcorn
stand and is turning over 3 thousand dollar
profit to city of Detroit
what a tool…so sad
eaglesoars wrote:
I miss Border’s Book Store (out of business since last year).
mawskrat wrote:
The pimps need a snack.
USA VS USA in womens beach volleyball final
citizen_q wrote:
Hubby just came in to tell me Obama is up in Iowa because Boehner is getting blamed for holding up the farm bill. And Obama will be there next week.
Not true, but there it is.
citizen_q wrote:
Martin O’Malley of Maryland -- the worst Governor in America.
(Ok, North Carolina’s soon to be ex governor Beverly Perdue can give him a run for that title).
eaglesoars wrote:
Hopefully that is a temporary blip.
@ Speranza:
I miss Borders too, a favorite haunt of mine.@ eaglesoars:
Wanted to point out we are not all mindless democrats here in MD. If its good for America likely obama is against it. Farming certainly falls under that.
Later, work rears it’s ugly head more than usual.
@ Speranza:
We call him owe-mally.
citizen_q wrote:
Yeah, well heads up. Hubby’s farmers in Massachussetts tell him Romeny SUCKED on ag issues. He was talking to one of Romney’s ag guys and REALLY REALLY did not like him.
At.
All.
@ eaglesoars:
You vote for the best candidate available. Romney is a moderate/liberal, Obama is a radical Socialist.
citizen_q wrote:
A potential Democratic candidate for POTUS along with Rahm Emanuel and Andrew Cuomo in 2016.
Speranza wrote:
I’m not voting for Romney. I’m voting against Obama.
New Thread.
eaglesoars wrote:
As long as you pull the lever for the guy who is not Obama.
Speranza wrote:
I don’t think Romney is a Liberal, Moderate or Centrist yes. But then again, he was also constrained by uber liberal Taxachuetts which might have dragged him in appearance towards the left.
doriangrey wrote:
Good point.
@ eaglesoars:
Guess they missed the Fast &Furious thing. That doesn’t count because they approve of Obama’s goals there and besides it was mostly Mexicans that got killed.
eaglesoars wrote:
I did not know that.
@ doriangrey:
I’ll bet some of those valiant men you lived next door to called Керри “an Effeminate”?