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Run, Joe. Run

by Speranza ( 172 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Humor at August 17th, 2012 - 6:00 pm

A campaign commercial touting our greatest Vice President ever!

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  1. Bob in Breckenridge
    1 | August 17, 2012 6:29 pm

    Joe Biden, the dumocrat gift that keeps on giving. To Romney/Ryan. :)


  2. 2 | August 17, 2012 6:33 pm

    This deserves play on a continual loop. I understand that the great challenge the editor had was paring it down to the time allotted. Heh.


  3. brookly red
    3 | August 17, 2012 6:36 pm

    Joe always reminds me of the “boss” in the Dlibert comic…


  4. brookly red
    4 | August 17, 2012 6:42 pm

    so if 0 actually did dump Joe and Hillary is out who could he find???

    Pelosie? Al Frankin ?(scary) Powel? The dems don’t have much in reserves.


  5. Bob in Breckenridge
    5 | August 17, 2012 6:47 pm

    Here’s another dumocrat who can give Biden a run for his money as the stupidest dumocrat, and that would be Illinois governor Pat Quinn, who said the following at an Obama campaign event:

    “Obama, he’s gone, he’s dead! He’s dead and the auto industry is alive!”…Um, Osama bin Laden, not Obama. I goofed that one up.”

    ROFLMAO!!! Uh, Governor Quinn, the Secret Service would like to have a word with you. God, are liberals dolts.


  6. brookly red
    6 | August 17, 2012 6:54 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Here’s another dumocrat who can give Biden a run for his money as the stupidest dumocrat, and that would be Illinois governor Pat Quinn, who said the following at an Obama campaign event:

    “Obama, he’s gone, he’s dead! He’s dead and the auto industry is alive!”…Um, Osama bin Laden, not Obama. I goofed that one up.”

    ROFLMAO!!! Uh, Governor Quinn, the Secret Service would like to have a word with you. God, are liberals dolts.

    well I think that is the way the left will spin it when 0 loses… the details still need tweaking but to the unions it will go something like ” he died (politically) for your jobs, prepare for his glorious resurrection in 2016!”


  7. song_and_dance_man
    7 | August 17, 2012 7:03 pm

    Just what he needs. Another plug.


  8. song_and_dance_man
    8 | August 17, 2012 7:07 pm

    I just sent this to the Mitt campaign in their ‘suggestion’ option.

    The Obama campaign has been insisting on Mitt releasing his tax returns. A simple response could be, we can meet you half way, Mr. President. I will release my tax records if you will release your school records.


  9. brookly red
    9 | August 17, 2012 7:08 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I just sent this to the Mitt campaign in their ‘suggestion’ option.

    The Obama campaign has been insisting on Mitt releasing his tax returns. A simple response could be, we can meet you half way, Mr. President. I will release my tax records if you will release your school records.

    Raaaaacist!


  10. lobo91
    10 | August 17, 2012 7:09 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    I had exactly the same thought.


  11. lobo91
    11 | August 17, 2012 7:10 pm

    This is great…Nidal Hasan’s court martial has been delayed “indefinitely”…because he’s grown a beard.


  12. brookly red
    12 | August 17, 2012 7:10 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    I had exactly the same thought.

    as did I, and 60 million other Americans. 0 is freakin toast.


  13. song_and_dance_man
    13 | August 17, 2012 7:11 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    I understand that the great challenge the editor had was paring it down to the time allotted.

    If Moore were on our side it would be a feature length film.

    And the VHS release would have another 8 tapes for outtakes.


  14. brookly red
    14 | August 17, 2012 7:12 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    This is great…Nidal Hasan’s court martial has been delayed “indefinitely”…because he’s grown a beard.

    3 MPs and a Bic shaver… no beard, no problem.


  15. song_and_dance_man
    15 | August 17, 2012 7:14 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Raaaaacist!

    That Joe Biden is a bad motha….

    SHUT YOUR MOUTH…


  16. lobo91
    16 | August 17, 2012 7:17 pm

    @ brookly red:

    No kidding. They actually said that they’re “trying to determine whether or not the judge has the ability to order him to shave.”

    Umm…if the military judge--a JAG officer--can’t figure that out on his own, they need a new judge.


  17. brookly red
    17 | August 17, 2012 7:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    No kidding. They actually said that they’re “trying to determine whether or not the judge has the ability to order him to shave.”

    Umm…if the military judge–a JAG officer–can’t figure that out on his own, they need a new judge.

    remember the scene from the “Dirty Dozen”… you will shave with cold water or the MPs will shave you dry.


  18. song_and_dance_man
    18 | August 17, 2012 7:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I had exactly the same thought.

    Ever since the so-called controversy started I have wondered just why the Mitt campaign hasn’t thought of it yet. If they are waiting for it to die down in cycle in hope that it will be brought up in some debate to spring the challenge on the H in a sideswipe kinda fashion, then that is OK too.

    But if they live and let die and don’t use this obvious tactic, then maybe they oughta hire use as advisers.


  19. song_and_dance_man
    19 | August 17, 2012 7:22 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    This is great…Nidal Hasan’s court martial has been delayed “indefinitely”…because he’s grown a beard.

    That’s ridiculous. He’s already out of uniform.


  20. Bob in Breckenridge
    20 | August 17, 2012 7:22 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    @ lobo91:
    @ brookly red:
    Obama’s campaign manager sent a letter today to Romney’s people telling them that if Gov. Romney will release 5 yrs of returns instead of ten…

    The Obama campaign, determined to renew the focus of the presidential race on questions about Mitt Romney‘s taxes, is trying to pressure the Republican candidate to release five years of his returns.

    Obama campaign manager Jim Messina sent a letter Friday to Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades promising not to demand any additional tax returns if Mr. Romney releases five years’ worth.

    “Governor Romney apparently fears that the more he offers, the more our campaign will demand that he provide,” Mr. Messina wrote.

    No Messina, you f**king libturd moron. Romney has nothing to hide, you losers do. You’re trying to hide the fact that in Obama’s 3 1/2 years in office he has been a complete and utter failure and the worst President in history, and has made things worse then ever, and you’re trying to distract the American people with a non-issue that no one, other than you pathetic losers, gives a rats-ass about.


  21. song_and_dance_man
    22 | August 17, 2012 7:24 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    remember the scene from the “Dirty Dozen”… you will shave with cold water or the MPs will shave you dry.

    Or the opening scene of Branded, where the emblems are torn off.

    Real protocol sucks at times.


  22. brookly red
    23 | August 17, 2012 7:30 pm

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Leaving it to the surrogates?

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/17/allen-west-to-obama-show-us-your-college-records-and-fast-and-furious-docs-and-well-show-you-our-tax-returns/

    /lurk

    and that is what I keep saying, Romney don’t have to do shit… it’s all about surrogates. I would love to see him sic Rudy on 0


  23. song_and_dance_man
    24 | August 17, 2012 7:31 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    I said this the other night.

    It is important for the Romney team to stay focused on the real issues. What is ailing this country is not bound up in the tax returns of Mitt. He should wave this off with a statement that in effect suggests the Marxist and his team counter with more substantive issues than his opponents wealth.

    Really Barry? You’re focus is the taxes paid by one person. How about the other Americans who can’t find work, jobs that are being lost, debt that is climbing. And on and on.

    Stay focused Hussein.

    But of course they are playing a political game that the Romney team is falling for that will not help in the slightest way.


  24. song_and_dance_man
    25 | August 17, 2012 7:32 pm

    @ CynicalConservative:

    Allen must be reading my posts here./


  25. brookly red
    26 | August 17, 2012 7:36 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    I said this the other night.

    It is important for the Romney team to stay focused on the real issues. What is ailing this country is not bound up in the tax returns of Mitt. He should wave this off with a statement that in effect suggests the Marxist and his team counter with more substantive issues than his opponents wealth.

    Really Barry? You’re focus is the taxes paid by one person. How about the other Americans who can’t find work, jobs that are being lost, debt that is climbing. And on and on.

    Stay focused Hussein.

    But of course they are playing a political game that the Romney team is falling for that will not help in the slightest way.

    they ain’t falling for shit, as soon as the convention is over they are gonna chew 0′s butt like a pit bull in heat.


  26. song_and_dance_man
    27 | August 17, 2012 7:41 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    they ain’t falling for shit, as soon as the convention is over they are gonna chew 0′s butt like a pit bull in heat.

    I hope so, but it doesn’t appear that way at the moment. This is a golden opportunity for Mitt and his team to back slap this tax return nontroversy into their collective faces and send them reeling for some other cover.

    Why they hesitate is a mystery.


  27. 28 | August 17, 2012 7:42 pm

    OFF TOPIC: This is who we fight. They are ANIMALS!
    WARNING! EXTREME VIOLENCE!!!!!!


  28. Dolphin
    29 | August 17, 2012 7:45 pm

    Welcome home lobo91!! Seen your pup yet? Sorry can’t remember her name only that it starts with “L”.

    Open question to all -- who is the poster here that lives east of Seattle? Can’t remember the screen name. Has he posted recently? Just concerned with the fires in that area.


  29. brookly red
    30 | August 17, 2012 7:50 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    they ain’t falling for shit, as soon as the convention is over they are gonna chew 0′s butt like a pit bull in heat.

    I hope so, but it doesn’t appear that way at the moment. This is a golden opportunity for Mitt and his team to back slap this tax return nontroversy into their collective faces and send them reeling for some other cover.

    Why they hesitate is a mystery.

    well a. because of the campaign laws say they can’t till after the convention and b. because if you are not already on-board it is because you have a vested interest like a union job, or a welfare check… the few clueless souls that are undecided are either just turning 18 or have an IQ of 65… those are the people campaign ads are aimed at, trust me I work on Madison Ave.


  30. Dolphin
    31 | August 17, 2012 7:52 pm

    @ Macker:
    Sorry, clicked over and immediately closed it. I couldn’t watch the Daniel Pearl video either. I did watch them hang Sadam.

    I did think of you earlier today when I saw this ad!


  31. brookly red
    32 | August 17, 2012 7:55 pm

    Macker wrote:

    OFF TOPIC: This is who we fight. They are ANIMALS!
    WARNING! EXTREME VIOLENCE!!!!!!

    wrong… this who we SHOULD fight. In fact not fight, delete.


  32. eaglesoars
    33 | August 17, 2012 8:02 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    it’s all about surrogates. I would love to see him sic Rudy on 0

    Well, he did, sort of. He said Biden just isn’t very bright.

    What I find even more effective are Democrats like Pat Cadell coming out and excoriating them. And former VA Governor Doug Wilder. They aren’t surrogates. They’re just DISGUSTED DEMOCRATS


  33. lobo91
    34 | August 17, 2012 8:03 pm

    @ Dolphin:

    Thanks.

    Leia’s right here next to me.


  34. Dolphin
    35 | August 17, 2012 8:06 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Aawww! That makes my heart happy! Was she so happy to see you?


  35. brookly red
    36 | August 17, 2012 8:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    it’s all about surrogates. I would love to see him sic Rudy on 0

    Well, he did, sort of. He said Biden just isn’t very bright.

    What I find even more effective are Democrats like Pat Cadell coming out and excoriating them. And former VA Governor Doug Wilder. They aren’t surrogates. They’re just DISGUSTED DEMOCRATS

    excellent point Democrats are not bad people I should know I am one… liberals are bad people. I said it I meant it.


  36. NoThreat2U
    37 | August 17, 2012 8:08 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    Yay, another chick on the forum! What’s up Girlie?


  37. NoThreat2U
    38 | August 17, 2012 8:10 pm

    *sigh* Just call me Lily The Thread Killer.


  38. Dolphin
    39 | August 17, 2012 8:13 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Doing great tonight. Finished up laundry today and now have the entire weekend to do what I want. Oh, and balanced the check book -- it wasn’t too dismal! Lol. Although the savings account is screaming no more -0-!!

    How ’bout you? Still feeling good?


  39. brookly red
    40 | August 17, 2012 8:13 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    *sigh* Just call me Lily The Thread Killer.

    the thread is on how stupid Joe Biden is… you couldn’t kill that with a shot gun.


  40. lobo91
    41 | August 17, 2012 8:14 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Aawww! That makes my heart happy! Was she so happy to see you?

    After she stopped barking at me, anyway. :)


  41. Dolphin
    42 | August 17, 2012 8:14 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    It must be a female posting thing because I know we all “feel” this way!

    :-)


  42. lobo91
    43 | August 17, 2012 8:15 pm

    I swear I’m going to call in an airstrike on my back yard…


  43. NoThreat2U
    44 | August 17, 2012 8:15 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    Actually I am. I tired myself out so bad yesterday…I could barely keep my eyes open at 10 pm. lol Now I just have a few comforters to wash and put away but I should be able to manage that easy enough.

    @ brookly red:
    Everyone is so quiet today. I have just been lurking.


  44. Dolphin
    45 | August 17, 2012 8:16 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I don’t think I could leave my monster for a year. I know you had to and admire you for it, but, dangit, what a tough decision.


  45. lobo91
    46 | August 17, 2012 8:17 pm

    The person who was staying here while I was gone was supposed to take care of the place.

    So much for that idea.

    I just replaced the HVAC filter. The same one that was in there when I left.


  46. brookly red
    47 | August 17, 2012 8:18 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Everyone is so quiet today. I have just been lurking

    its Friday night why lurk ? put your hair up and put on the big shoes.


  47. lobo91
    48 | August 17, 2012 8:18 pm

    Leia can barely walk around in the back yard with all the weeds


  48. Dolphin
    49 | August 17, 2012 8:21 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Wonderful!

    All us girls should meet up somewhere -- wouldn’t that be a blast!


  49. Speranza
    50 | August 17, 2012 8:26 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    This deserves play on a continual loop. I understand that the great challenge the editor had was paring it down to the time allotted. Heh.

    Juan Williams (substituting for O’Reilly) just showed it.


  50. Speranza
    51 | August 17, 2012 8:27 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Are you familiar with Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley? The dummy who was given a $1 billion surplus and turned it into a $2 billion deficit?


  51. brookly red
    52 | August 17, 2012 8:28 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    This deserves play on a continual loop. I understand that the great challenge the editor had was paring it down to the time allotted. Heh.

    Juan Williams (substituting for O’Reilly) just showed it.

    I don’t think it is a good idea to out Joe as a special ed case till he is locked in as the VP candidate…


  52. brookly red
    53 | August 17, 2012 8:32 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Are you familiar with Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley? The dummy who was given a $1 billion surplus and turned it into a $2 billion deficit?

    well he paid off all his friends and stashed away a few bucks, bought a lot of votes… this stout hemp rope thing is starting interest me.


  53. Speranza
    54 | August 17, 2012 8:34 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Are you familiar with Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley? The dummy who was given a $1 billion surplus and turned it into a $2 billion deficit?

    well he paid off all his friends and stashed away a few bucks, bought a lot of votes… this stout hemp rope thing is starting interest me.

    He also is considered to be a leading Democratic candidate for POTUS in 2016.


  54. brookly red
    55 | August 17, 2012 8:35 pm

    OMG Brewer is on the Mark Levin show!!!


  55. 56 | August 17, 2012 8:36 pm

    Juan Williams is about to show the new Swift Boat video. What should we call it? The SEALS attack video? We need a cute name. Everyone with a blog needs to put it on there.


  56. brookly red
    57 | August 17, 2012 8:38 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Juan Williams is about to show the new Swift Boat video. What should we call it? The SEALS attack video? We need a cute name. Everyone with a blog needs to put it on there.

    When SEALS attack! works for me .


  57. 58 | August 17, 2012 8:38 pm

    @ brookly red:

    A dry shave, right?


  58. brookly red
    59 | August 17, 2012 8:41 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Are you familiar with Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley? The dummy who was given a $1 billion surplus and turned it into a $2 billion deficit?

    well he paid off all his friends and stashed away a few bucks, bought a lot of votes… this stout hemp rope thing is starting interest me.

    He also is considered to be a leading Democratic candidate for POTUS in 2016.

    well might as well shine a light on him till then, and try to get him indicted before then… I am tired of these pukes, theft is a crime and this is not America till cell doors start slamming shut.


  59. brookly red
    60 | August 17, 2012 8:43 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    A dry shave, right?

    personally I would just stick his head in a bucket full of Nair…


  60. 61 | August 17, 2012 8:44 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    When SEALS attack! works for me .

    The “When SEALS attack video” doesn’t quite sound right. He’s going to interview one of the SEALs. Will he have the guts to challenge him? What’s the left’s answer to the video other than call it Swift Boating?


  61. NoThreat2U
    62 | August 17, 2012 8:44 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Hair IS up sand got the robe one :)


  62. NoThreat2U
    63 | August 17, 2012 8:45 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    Hahahahahaha Imagine the hilarity that would ensue!!!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO


  63. brookly red
    64 | August 17, 2012 8:47 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    When SEALS attack! works for me .

    The “When SEALS attack video” doesn’t quite sound right. He’s going to interview one of the SEALs. Will he have the guts to challenge him? What’s the left’s answer to the video other than call it Swift Boating?

    OK, how about “I was there”


  64. NoThreat2U
    65 | August 17, 2012 8:48 pm

    @ brookly red:
    No, wax it. I heard that hurts like a mo fo. lol


  65. eaglesoars
    66 | August 17, 2012 8:49 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    What’s the left’s answer to the video other than call it Swift Boating?

    Well, Media Matters scum called them ‘gutless’.

    Man would I like those Media Matters people to just HAPPEN to walk into the wrong bar at the right time.


  66. brookly red
    67 | August 17, 2012 8:51 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    No, wax it. I heard that hurts like a mo fo. lol

    hows about we just water board him till we know what he knows and then hang him… this semantically correct bullshit is tiring me.


  67. Dolphin
    68 | August 17, 2012 8:53 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    I know it would be fun as sh!t.


  68. brookly red
    69 | August 17, 2012 8:53 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Rancher wrote:

    What’s the left’s answer to the video other than call it Swift Boating?

    Well, Media Matters scum called them ‘gutless’.

    Man would I like those Media Matters people to just HAPPEN to walk into the wrong bar at the right time.

    they have a tax free status… I want them in jail. Nothing less will do.


  69. NoThreat2U
    70 | August 17, 2012 8:53 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Waterboarding sounds good to me. If his allegiance is to allah the moon god, I dont think he has the right to all the American court system affords him.


  70. 71 | August 17, 2012 8:54 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Well, Media Matters scum called them ‘gutless’.

    Brilliant response, I’m sure that’s selling.


  71. NoThreat2U
    72 | August 17, 2012 8:55 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    We need to go to an area populated with muslims…and dress like sluts. lol lol


  72. Calo
    73 | August 17, 2012 8:55 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    I’ll let you know if Lily comes out this way and maybe you could join us if your schedule allows it.


  73. Speranza
    74 | August 17, 2012 8:56 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    well might as well shine a light on him till then, and try to get him indicted before then… I am tired of these pukes, theft is a crime and this is not America till cell doors start slamming shut.

    Maryland has lost a ton of jobs since The One took office.


  74. BBEV
    75 | August 17, 2012 8:56 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Just what he needs. Another plug.

    LOL that was good


  75. 76 | August 17, 2012 8:57 pm

    Trust Juan to know the talking points. It’s political, it’s Swift Boating. That’s all they got. This is going to hurt Obama big time.


  76. Dolphin
    77 | August 17, 2012 8:57 pm

    @ Calo:
    Cool! That would be fun!


  77. brookly red
    78 | August 17, 2012 8:58 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Waterboarding sounds good to me. If his allegiance is to allah the moon god, I dont think he has the right to all the American court system affords him.

    the problem is, the whole idea of talking someone alive is so they can provide intelligence… if he has none to give just hang him.


  78. eaglesoars
    79 | August 17, 2012 8:59 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    they have a tax free status… I want them in jail. Nothing less will do.

    Oh, c’mon, you can be more devious than that! Jail is so straightforward.

    Let’s start with public humiliation of David Brooks. How about we start with a domestic abuse complaint from one of his boyfriends -- paired with a restraining order.

    Followed by a paternity/child support lawsuit from Megan McCain.

    A little creativity never hurt!


  79. 80 | August 17, 2012 9:01 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    We need to go to an area populated with muslims…and dress like sluts. lol lol

    Take pictures. And video. For the journalistic value, like Zombie.


  80. Dolphin
    81 | August 17, 2012 9:01 pm

    This is great!

    How I became George Obama’s ‘brother

    From the record of their lives and writings, it’s clear that Barack Obama Sr. and Barack Obama Jr. both share the anti-colonial view that blames Western colonial exploitation for the poverty and suffering of the Third World. Yet George doesn’t buy it. He observes that at the time of its independence in the early 1960s “Kenya was on an economic par with Malaysia or Singapore. Look where we are now, and where they are. They’re practically developed and industrialized, while Kenya is still a basket case.” George believes that poor countries should take responsibility for their own situation. “What’s our excuse for failure? We don’t have one. We’ve only got ourselves to blame.”

    Incredible though it seems, George Obama is, within the context of his own society, a conservative. He doesn’t worship at the shrine of Barack Obama Sr. and he espouses an ideology diametrically opposed to that of his father and his famous brother. George has experienced first-hand the empty rhetoric of the two Baracks, and he rejects it based on his actual experience of Third World poverty.

    No wonder President Obama despises George, doesn’t want him around, doesn’t care to hear George’s views circulated in America, and won’t lift a finger to help him even when George’s son is in the hospital.

    So that’s why George Obama felt he had to call me. He had no one else to call. He reached out to me in his time of need because he felt he couldn’t call on his real life sibling living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    That’s how I got to be, if only metaphorically and for a short time, George Obama’s “brother.”


  81. pat
    82 | August 17, 2012 9:02 pm

    Special treatment for Muslim travelers demanded, granted by TSA, ICE.
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/53230/exclusive-customs-muslim-supervisor-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-1053775
    Only Christians, Americans, and Jews need be treated like criminals.


  82. NoThreat2U
    83 | August 17, 2012 9:03 pm

    @ brookly red:
    They will limit there court casae to his court martial only. They will not question him about anything else. To hell with him. Hold him down and shave his damn beard. At first I thought the beard issue was no big deal but now it is just a battle of wills.


  83. Bob in Breckenridge
    84 | August 17, 2012 9:03 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    I said this the other night.
    It is important for the Romney team to stay focused on the real issues. What is ailing this country is not bound up in the tax returns of Mitt. He should wave this off with a statement that in effect suggests the Marxist and his team counter with more substantive issues than his opponents wealth.
    Really Barry? You’re focus is the taxes paid by one person. How about the other Americans who can’t find work, jobs that are being lost, debt that is climbing. And on and on.
    Stay focused Hussein.
    But of course they are playing a political game that the Romney team is falling for that will not help in the slightest way.

    I totally disagree that the Romney/Ryan team is falling for Obama’s attempts to deflect the main issue of this election, which is Obama’s total and abject failure as President to make America better.

    They’re not, not at all. They’re continually telling Obama and his dim-witted minions to stick to issues the American people care about- The economy and creating jobs.


  84. brookly red
    85 | August 17, 2012 9:04 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    they have a tax free status… I want them in jail. Nothing less will do.

    Oh, c’mon, you can be more devious than that! Jail is so straightforward.

    Let’s start with public humiliation of David Brooks. How about we start with a domestic abuse complaint from one of his boyfriends – paired with a restraining order.

    Followed by a paternity/child support lawsuit from Megan McCain.

    A little creativity never hurt!

    no I said jail I meant jail. we have nothing to gain by playing their games. they defrauded the people by claiming tax free status, put them in jail for tax evasion… they should pay their fair share you know :)


  85. NoThreat2U
    86 | August 17, 2012 9:05 pm

    @ Rancher:
    Believe me, if I lived in an area populated by muslims, I would be as offensive as possible. I drink, I smoke and I dont take order from men who think they are superior to me. I am worthy of my very own fatwa. lol


  86. Dolphin
    87 | August 17, 2012 9:05 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    We would have to figure our how to get nt2u and eaglesoars there at the same time!

    What a fun time it would be!


  87. eaglesoars
    88 | August 17, 2012 9:05 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Maryland has lost a ton of jobs since The One took office.

    And a lot of them have come to Virginia. As have households. At least 2 counties in Virginia have what I call ‘poaching’ agencies -- Fairfax and Loudoun. What these agencies do is look at businesses in other states who are have regulatory/bureaucratic problems, contact the businesses and see if it would be worth helping them move to Virginia.

    About a month or so ago, a guy called into Chris Plante’s radio show who was from Rockville MD. He told a litany of bureaucratic bullshit Montgomery county had put his business thru -- and then said Loudoun County had called him. He’s moving his business.

    What I’d like to know is how these poaching agencies find out about this stuff.


  88. Dolphin
    89 | August 17, 2012 9:07 pm

    Nite all. Got to go for now!


  89. Speranza
    90 | August 17, 2012 9:07 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    A lot of those who do have jobs in Maryland work for the Federal government.


  90. eaglesoars
    91 | August 17, 2012 9:08 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    put them in jail for tax evasion… they should pay their fair share you know

    *sigh*

    ok, then, can we humiliate them AFTER they get out?


  91. Bob in Breckenridge
    92 | August 17, 2012 9:09 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Leia can barely walk around in the back yard with all the weeds

    I told you, buy a goat! It’ll take care of all those weeds. Or rent one. Look in the Yellow Pages under “Goat Rentals”. Maybe they have a goat rental store for the male muslims that visit Colorado Springs. :)


  92. Speranza
    93 | August 17, 2012 9:10 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    They’re not, not at all. They’re continually telling Obama and his dim-witted minions to stick to issues the American people care about- The economy and creating jobs.

    They haven’t lost focus on jobs and his rotten record and they are smart enough to allow Obama-Biden to keep stepping in dog shit like the fake cancer claim, Obama’s “You didn’t build that” remark, and Biden’s foot in mouth disease.


  93. eaglesoars
    94 | August 17, 2012 9:10 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    A lot of those who do have jobs in Maryland work for the Federal government.

    True in Virginia also. As a matter of fact, it just might be what turns Fairfax county from blue to red -- the cuts to the Defense budget are going to hit contractors hard and we’ve got TONS of those here.


  94. eaglesoars
    95 | August 17, 2012 9:12 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    We would have to figure our how to get nt2u and eaglesoars there at the same time!

    Tell me where and when -- I’ll be there


  95. BBEV
    96 | August 17, 2012 9:12 pm

    This election is going to blow away the left. It will be then that we (The Tea Party) have to hold those that are elected to stay strong and not do the RINO crap that we have got over the years. I am a Conservative; you cannot call me Republican nor Democrat.


  96. Speranza
    97 | August 17, 2012 9:12 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    True in Virginia also. As a matter of fact, it just might be what turns Fairfax county from blue to red – the cuts to the Defense budget are going to hit contractors hard and we’ve got TONS of those here.

    Northern Virginia -- essentially a massive suburb of Washington D.C. -- is loaded with government workers.


  97. Speranza
    98 | August 17, 2012 9:12 pm

    BBEV wrote:

    This election is going to blow away the left. It will be then that we (The Tea Party) have to hold those that are elected to stay strong and not do the RINO crap that we have got over the years. I am a Conservative; you cannot call me Republican nor Democrat.

    It’s going to be very close election. No blow outs for either side.


  98. lobo91
    99 | August 17, 2012 9:13 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    I don’t think many Muslims come here…


  99. eaglesoars
    100 | August 17, 2012 9:14 pm

    @ pat:

    I’m wary of Schlussel.


  100. Speranza
    101 | August 17, 2012 9:16 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ pat:
    I’m wary of Schlussel.

    She’s a neurotic, vindictive, rageaholic, lunatic. She is complete poison.


  101. BBEV
    102 | August 17, 2012 9:18 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    BBEV wrote:
    This election is going to blow away the left. It will be then that we (The Tea Party) have to hold those that are elected to stay strong and not do the RINO crap that we have got over the years. I am a Conservative; you cannot call me Republican nor Democrat.
    It’s going to be very close election. No blow outs for either side.

    It is going to be a blow out. He Big O is going down. I have been talking with many people that voted for him the last time and things have changed.


  102. lobo91
    103 | August 17, 2012 9:18 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ pat:
    I’m wary of Schlussel.

    She’s a neurotic, vindictive, rageaholic, lunatic. She is complete poison.

    And you’ve never even been married to her… :)


  103. Bob in Breckenridge
    104 | August 17, 2012 9:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    I don’t think many Muslims come here…

    Lucky you!


  104. Speranza
    105 | August 17, 2012 9:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    @ pat:
    I’m wary of Schlussel.
    She’s a neurotic, vindictive, rageaholic, lunatic. She is complete poison.

    And you’ve never even been married to her…

    The douche bag has never been married, no wonder why? Who would want to be near that psycho? She probably has not even been laid. She claimed that Mark Levin and Michael Medved are Hezbollah supporters and referred to Yael of Boker Tov, Boulder as being a Kapo.


  105. Bob in Breckenridge
    106 | August 17, 2012 9:21 pm

    bbl…


  106. eaglesoars
    107 | August 17, 2012 9:21 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    True in Virginia also. As a matter of fact, it just might be what turns Fairfax county from blue to red – the cuts to the Defense budget are going to hit contractors hard and we’ve got TONS of those here.
    Northern Virginia – essentially a massive suburb of Washington D.C. – is loaded with government workers.

    Most are working for companies that contract w/the Feds. We also have a very large military presence here. Ft. Belvoir, Quantico, Ft. Myers, Coast Guard and if it fits one’s definition, the Pentagon. Generally, Virginia has about 25-30 military bases (of course not all in NORTHERN VA). The Navy is a big deal in this state.


  107. Speranza
    108 | August 17, 2012 9:23 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I love sight seeing in the Old Dominion. So much Civil War and Colonial/Revolutionary War history.


  108. eaglesoars
    109 | August 17, 2012 9:23 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    She’s a neurotic, vindictive, rageaholic, lunatic. She is complete poison.

    I started to back off when she insisted American citizens of Iragi origins not be allowed back in the country when they got caught in the fighting in Beruit/Lebanon.


  109. eaglesoars
    110 | August 17, 2012 9:26 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    I love sight seeing in the Old Dominion. So much Civil War and Colonial/Revolutionary War history.

    It is wonderful. Hubby and I were married at Burnside Bridge at Antietam Battlefied. On the Confederate side. The Union troops that finally took the bridge were from NY -- Hubby’s home state -- and PA -- my home state.

    He took me on a picnic at that very spot on our 2nd date.

    Hubby is a Civil War afficianado (I’m WW II)


  110. Speranza
    111 | August 17, 2012 9:28 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    She’s a neurotic, vindictive, rageaholic, lunatic. She is complete poison.

    I started to back off when she insisted American citizens of Iragi origins not be allowed back in the country when they got caught in the fighting in Beruit/Lebanon.

    Just because a person hates the same people you do does not make them only partly crazy or a little bit crazy -she is still a complete lunatic. The hatred she has for Muslims is the same hatred she has for every one else (as Dennis the Peasant said). When you hang around with fucking nut jobs, bad things happen. I don’t cut her any slack just because she hates Islam.


  111. Speranza
    112 | August 17, 2012 9:29 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    It is wonderful. Hubby and I were married at Burnside Bridge at Antietam Battlefied. On the Confederate side. The Union troops that finally took the bridge were from NY – Hubby’s home state – and PA – my home state.

    He took me on a picnic at that very spot on our 2nd date.

    Hubby is a Civil War afficianado (I’m WW II)

    Burnside Bridge was defended by Georgia troops.
    I’ve been there three times.


  112. eaglesoars
    113 | August 17, 2012 9:30 pm

    @ Speranza:

    There’s no doubt in my mind she’s unhinged.


  113. BBEV
    114 | August 17, 2012 9:30 pm

    I get called everyday most times many times a day about who I am going to vote for. I will tell you this, I am not always telling the truth (LOL) . I love to mess with them.


  114. eaglesoars
    115 | August 17, 2012 9:31 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Burnside Bridge was defended by Georgia troops.
    I’ve been there three times.

    Well, jeez oh flip, the next time you’re in the ‘hood give me a heads up! We’ll show you around!


  115. Speranza
    116 | August 17, 2012 9:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    There’s no doubt in my mind she’s unhinged.

    She’s frighteningly unhinged -- I mean the type that will go postal on a bunch of people with a M-4. She hates Hannity, O’Reilly, Malkin, Palin, Levin, Medved and just about any conservative. Now I am not a fan of Malkin, Palin or Geller, but Debbie Downer is unusually vicious. She even trashed Aly Raisman for not being sincere when she had Hava Nagila played when she did her gymnastic routine. I mean trashing an 18 yer old girl??


  116. lobo91
    117 | August 17, 2012 9:34 pm

    The Rockies always have great commercials:


  117. 118 | August 17, 2012 9:34 pm

    Yo…. So I just walked in… (been off at my brothers house) and I don’t know whats going on, to hell with it…. Here…. somebody turned my on to this guy a couple of days ago… (dude rocks so damned hard)


  118. Speranza
    119 | August 17, 2012 9:37 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Burnside Bridge was defended by Georgia troops.
    I’ve been there three times.

    Well, jeez oh flip, the next time you’re in the ‘hood give me a heads up! We’ll show you around!

    :) I also visited Frederick Maryland which has a lot of Civil War history. Also visited the Battlefield of Monocacy Junction (a Confederate victory during Jubal Early’s march on Washington D.C. in 1864).


  119. BBEV
    120 | August 17, 2012 9:40 pm

    Good Night All. May God Bless America.


  120. Speranza
    121 | August 17, 2012 9:41 pm

    BBEV wrote:

    Good Night All. May God Bless America.

    One of the best blessings would be replacing Obama in 2013.


  121. 122 | August 17, 2012 9:46 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    BBEV wrote:
    Good Night All. May God Bless America.

    One of the best blessings would be replacing Obama in 2013.

    And the entire congregation said as one… AMEN


  122. RIX
    123 | August 17, 2012 9:48 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I also visited Frederick Maryland which has a lot of Civil War history. Also visited the Battlefield of Monocacy Junction (a Confederate victory during Jubal Early’s march on Washington D.C. in 1864).

    Jubal opposed secession, but remained loyal to Virginia.


  123. Speranza
    124 | August 17, 2012 9:49 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I also visited Frederick Maryland which has a lot of Civil War history. Also visited the Battlefield of Monocacy Junction (a Confederate victory during Jubal Early’s march on Washington D.C. in 1864).

    Jubal opposed secession, but remained loyal to Virginia.

    Correct. He was the prosecuting attorney of Rockingham County before the war.


  124. RIX
    125 | August 17, 2012 9:51 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Correct. He was the prosecuting attorney of Rockingham County before the war.

    He was & he was also a west Point grad, just like Lee.


  125. eaglesoars
    126 | August 17, 2012 9:52 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I also visited Frederick Maryland which has a lot of Civil War history. Also visited the Battlefield of Monocacy Junction (a Confederate victory during Jubal Early’s march on Washington D.C. in 1864).

    One of our vacations was visiting EVERY battlefield we could make it to in 8 days. Shiloh was a heartache.

    Apologies to our friends in Mississippi, but Corinth sucks.

    As much as I love Antietam (sit at Bloody Lane as the sun goes down -- it’s haunted) -- my favorite is Gettysburg. Walk the ground -- Confederate and Union -- at Cemetary Ridge (Pickett’s Charge) and shake your head in astonishment that Lee was that stupid.

    The last time we were there, my parents were with us. We stopped at Little Round Top. Dad had had his first stroke by then and couldn’t climb up, but Chamberlain’s great (great great?) grandson was there giving a talk/tour and he was good enough to walk down and talk to Dad and answer all his questions, etc.


  126. eaglesoars
    127 | August 17, 2012 10:03 pm

    RIX wrote:

    He was & he was also a west Point grad, just like Lee.

    Not a very successful General, it must be said. IIRC, Lee had to remove him. And rightly or wrongly, I think he was instrumental in ruining Longstreet.


  127. 128 | August 17, 2012 10:03 pm

    Romney is playing the Obama campaign with regard to his tax returns. He doesn’t want Obama pouring over the returns, which must be very complicated, and misrepresenting what’s in them. But the Obama campaign will obsess and beat this into the ground. Just before the election Romney will release his returns and make the Obama campaign look like idiots.


  128. eaglesoars
    129 | August 17, 2012 10:08 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Just before the election Romney will release his returns and make the Obama campaign look like idiots.

    I doubt it. R&R have better things to do.

    Are you really a rancher?


  129. RIX
    130 | August 17, 2012 10:09 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    He was & he was also a west Point grad, just like Lee.
    Not a very successful General, it must be said. IIRC, Lee had to remove him. And rightly or wrongly, I think he was instrumental in ruining Longstreet.

    Could be. Killimg Lincoln by Bill O’Reily is a great
    read. Lots about the Civil War & the conspiracy to kill
    Lincoln that I didn’t know.
    O’Reily surprised me.


  130. Bob in Breckenridge
    131 | August 17, 2012 10:13 pm

    RIX wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    He was & he was also a west Point grad, just like Lee.
    Not a very successful General, it must be said. IIRC, Lee had to remove him. And rightly or wrongly, I think he was instrumental in ruining Longstreet.

    Could be. Killimg Lincoln by Bill O’Reily is a great
    read. Lots about the Civil War & the conspiracy to kill
    Lincoln that I didn’t know.
    O’Reily surprised me.

    His next book, “Killing Kennedy”, come out in October.


  131. RIX
    132 | August 17, 2012 10:15 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    ‘His next book, “Killing Kennedy”, come out in October.

    I’ll get it, there was some great research in Killing
    Lincoln.


  132. eaglesoars
    133 | August 17, 2012 10:17 pm

    RIX wrote:

    O’Reily surprised me.

    hunh. I tried to read one of O’Reilly’s previous books -- don’t remember the name -- but it was atrocious, so I never considered anything else with his name on it.

    So you think it’s worth it?


  133. Bob in Breckenridge
    134 | August 17, 2012 10:19 pm

    @ RIX:
    I will too. “Killing Lincoln” was awesome. And his co-author, Martin Dugard, wrote “The Murder Of King Tut” with James Patterson. You should check out that book, also.


  134. RIX
    135 | August 17, 2012 10:21 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    O’Reily surprised me.
    hunh. I tried to read one of O’Reilly’s previous books – don’t remember the name – but it was atrocious, so I never considered anything else with his name on it.
    So you think it’s worth it?

    Yeah ,it’s really a good read. I expected much less, but
    the guy did a great job.


  135. Bob in Breckenridge
    136 | August 17, 2012 10:21 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    O’Reily surprised me.
    hunh. I tried to read one of O’Reilly’s previous books – don’t remember the name – but it was atrocious, so I never considered anything else with his name on it.
    So you think it’s worth it?

    Go to your library and check it out. I wouldn’t buy any book. Cheapskate, no. Frugal, yes. :)


  136. 137 | August 17, 2012 10:24 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Are you really a rancher?

    For thirty years, sheep mostly. There was an incentive program that allowed us to compete with Australian and New Zealand wool which were heavily subsidized. Their wool was taxed and the money was given to us based on how good our wool was. The press latched on to how Sam Donaldson and other wealthy ranchers were being given this “corporate welfare” and Al Gore killed the program. We couldn’t compete with our subsidized competition and the U.S. wool industry died. We were dieing anyway because coyotes were killing our lamb crops and EPA wouldn’t let us poison them because some skunks and rabbits might also die. Fuck the government.


  137. RIX
    138 | August 17, 2012 10:24 pm

    Good night all.


  138. waldensianspirit
    139 | August 17, 2012 10:34 pm

    @ Rancher:
    I was at Ag Progress yesterday. Had the best lamb sandwich I’ve ever tasted!
    People know what to do. Just need those in bureaucracy who don’t, be given the pink slip so America can thrive again


  139. waldensianspirit
    140 | August 17, 2012 10:37 pm

    Gary Kasparov accused of biting


  140. 141 | August 17, 2012 10:40 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    Another problem the sheep industry had was that during WWII a lot of mutton was served to GIs, much of it not refrigerated. I had a lot of Vets tell me that even seeing sheep meat would make them sick. Another problem is that we would get less per pound than our beef but by the time it reached the grocery store lamb was twice the price.


  141. coldwarrior
    142 | August 17, 2012 10:42 pm

    back out of the bunker…

    anyone around?


  142. eaglesoars
    143 | August 17, 2012 10:44 pm

    @ Rancher:

    I remember all of that. Yes, the wool industry here did die -- I have 4 sheepskin rugs -- all from New Zealand. They stopped propping up their dairy industry a few years back -- lost a few farmers but what was left became a vibrant, healthy industry.

    I have a question about predator mgmt. Did you or any other ranchers consider using dogs that were bred to handle them? Specifically, I’m thinking of the Komondor. They are an ancient breed(out of the historical Hungary) that were bred for this (actually, I think for bears, but they’ll kill a wolf pack too).

    I assume you had border collies or some such, but they’re not killers. Komondors can be.

    There is also the Ovcharka, aka Caucasian shepard.

    Just wondering.


  143. Bob in Breckenridge
    144 | August 17, 2012 10:44 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    back out of the bunker…
    anyone around?

    Yep. Joe Bidden…


  144. coldwarrior
    145 | August 17, 2012 10:45 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ Rancher:
    I remember all of that. Yes, the wool industry here did die – I have 4 sheepskin rugs – all from New Zealand. They stopped propping up their dairy industry a few years back – lost a few farmers but what was left became a vibrant, healthy industry.
    I have a question about predator mgmt. Did you or any other ranchers consider using dogs that were bred to handle them? Specifically, I’m thinking of the Komondor. They are an ancient breed(out of the historical Hungary) that were bred for this (actually, I think for bears, but they’ll kill a wolf pack too).
    I assume you had border collies or some such, but they’re not killers. Komondors can be.
    There is also the Ovcharka, aka Caucasian shepard.
    Just wondering.

    ummmm….k

    the bombay and saphire i just made looks nice


  145. Bob in Breckenridge
    146 | August 17, 2012 10:46 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    back out of the bunker…
    anyone around?

    That’s Joe Biden… :)


  146. waldensianspirit
    147 | August 17, 2012 10:47 pm

    @ Rancher:
    Yea big contrast to what I got yesterday. So well prepared, so fresh and big sandwich for 5 bucks in today’s econ


  147. coldwarrior
    148 | August 17, 2012 10:47 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    i wil make a duck tape wallet by am

    i gots gaffer stuff!


  148. Calo
    149 | August 17, 2012 10:49 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    LOL, the bunker.

    The windowless cell of a hellhole they call ICU?


  149. eaglesoars
    150 | August 17, 2012 10:50 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Another problem is that we would get less per pound than our beef but by the time it reached the grocery store lamb was twice the price.

    Lamb is still hideously expensive. I think it must be economy of scale. I smelled mutton cooking once. I will never eat it. Altho’ I have a girlfried in Wales who tells me it’s a staple in their cuisine.

    The other meat that is not plentiful and is expensive is veal. I LOVE veal stew, blanquette de veau, etc. I have two butchers I work with -- one owns his own store and the other works for a grocery chain. The private owner can almost never get. If I give Richard at the chain a 2-day heads up, he can get me what I want. But in season, the private butcher can get me all the venison I want.

    Veal is much more available in Europe, where they don’t have the land to pasture the animals to maturity as we do here.


  150. eaglesoars
    151 | August 17, 2012 10:52 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    ummmm….k
    the bombay and saphire i just made looks nice

    Crimeny, you must be trashed…you’re not supposed to LOOK at it, ya dummy.

    Hi CW!


  151. coldwarrior
    152 | August 17, 2012 10:52 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    LOL, the bunker.
    The windowless cell of a hellhole they call ICU?

    it has windows, that face….a fucking wall.

    i just want to blow trhe joint up


  152. 153 | August 17, 2012 10:54 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Did you or any other ranchers consider using dogs that were bred to handle them?

    Yes we all looked at that. Problem with dogs and burros which also defended flocks is that in the desert southwest you would have pastures over 3 to 6 square miles. Sheep would commonly group in groups of 15 to 30 members but during lambing tended to go off alone. Way too many dogs, which you would have to go out and find to feed every day, in our case 7 to 10 pastures, the logistics were impossible. Same argument with the management tool of bringing them all into the barn every night. We had 2000 sheep spread over 45 square miles, it took us half a day to round up 400 sheep.


  153. waldensianspirit
    154 | August 17, 2012 10:55 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    they’ll kill a wolf pack too

    How many to take down a wolf pack?!?!?!?!??? Must be one of the most horrific, vicious events to ever witness. Wouldn’t there be a bunch of dogs needing serious medical attention?


  154. lobo91
    155 | August 17, 2012 10:59 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I smelled mutton cooking once. I will never eat it. Altho’ I have a girlfried in Wales who tells me it’s a staple in their cuisine.

    I worked in a general store on one of the reservations in western NM when I was in high school. We sold tons of mutton.

    I haven’t gone near it since.


  155. waldensianspirit
    156 | August 17, 2012 11:00 pm

    Wow! Ovcharka next to a human

    How would you afford to feed one of them yet alone a pack?


  156. lobo91
    157 | August 17, 2012 11:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Wow! Ovcharka next to a human

    How would you afford to feed one of them yet alone a pack?

    Make them work on commission


  157. waldensianspirit
    158 | August 17, 2012 11:07 pm

    @ lobo91:
    :lol:


  158. eaglesoars
    159 | August 17, 2012 11:09 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    the logistics were impossible.

    got it. Not to mention the water reqs for the dogs. Yowza.

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Wouldn’t there be a bunch of dogs needing serious medical attention?

    Go forth and google. Komondor were bred to kill bear. As for Ovcharka -- just go look at a pic -- and read what a responsible breeder has to say.

    Here

    These dogs are not to be fucked with.


  159. waldensianspirit
    160 | August 17, 2012 11:10 pm

    A Komodor jumping a training gate! :mrgreen:


  160. eaglesoars
    161 | August 17, 2012 11:14 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    A Komodor jumping a training gate!

    heh. NOW do you believe me?


  161. waldensianspirit
    162 | August 17, 2012 11:22 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heh. NOW do you believe me?

    :mrgreen: they also have the shock value of being the largest mop a bear ever saw coming at ‘em! which end to grab


  162. 163 | August 17, 2012 11:28 pm

    OOT is up


  163. Bob in Breckenridge
    164 | August 17, 2012 11:30 pm

    Speaking of Biden, did you see this:

    Biden’s ‘good friend,’ and Obama donor, receives $20M federal TAXPAYER loan to open foreign luxury car dealership in Ukraine


  164. Calo
    165 | August 17, 2012 11:34 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yep -- a fucking box sans view.

    That’s all you and your patients are able to enjoy.


  165. lobo91
    166 | August 17, 2012 11:38 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Speaking of Biden, did you see this:

    Biden’s ‘good friend,’ and Obama donor, receives $20M federal TAXPAYER loan to open foreign luxury car dealership in Ukraine

    Where’d I put that rope?


  166. waldensianspirit
    167 | August 17, 2012 11:38 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Speaking of Biden, did you see this:
    Biden’s ‘good friend,’ and Obama donor, receives $20M federal TAXPAYER loan to open foreign luxury car dealership in Ukraine

    They are men of the world


  167. 168 | August 17, 2012 11:50 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    The first time I saw that pic, I thought it was just a pile of shredded paper.


  168. Alberta Oil Peon
    169 | August 17, 2012 11:59 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Is there some need for him to be clean-shaven at the trial? Why not try him and execute him beard and all?


  169. coldwarrior
    170 | August 18, 2012 1:13 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yep – a fucking box sans view.
    That’s all you and your patients are able to enjoy.

    and the thump thump of the air in.

    its like air assault school all over again over and over


  170. Speranza
    171 | August 18, 2012 6:47 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    He was & he was also a west Point grad, just like Lee.
    Not a very successful General, it must be said. IIRC, Lee had to remove him. And rightly or wrongly, I think he was instrumental in ruining Longstreet.

    Actually he was a successful general. By 1864 given the disparity between the resources of the North v. South, nobody including Stonewall, had he been alive, could have made a difference. Jubal Early had anywhere between 10,000 -- 15,000 men (many who were barefoot and just about all were hungry), General Sheridan had 40,0000 -50,000 well armed and well fed troopers. That the means were disproportionate to the task ahead of him when he marched against the incendiary General Hunter in June, 1864, that he succeeded is glory enough.


  171. 172 | August 18, 2012 10:49 am

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    This is great…Nidal Hasan’s court martial has been delayed “indefinitely”…because he’s grown a beard.

    3 MPs and a Bic shaver… no beard, no problem.

    Yup.

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Rancher wrote:
    Another problem is that we would get less per pound than our beef but by the time it reached the grocery store lamb was twice the price.
    Lamb is still hideously expensive. I think it must be economy of scale. I smelled mutton cooking once. I will never eat it. Altho’ I have a girlfried in Wales who tells me it’s a staple in their cuisine.
    The other meat that is not plentiful and is expensive is veal. I LOVE veal stew, blanquette de veau, etc. I have two butchers I work with – one owns his own store and the other works for a grocery chain. The private owner can almost never get. If I give Richard at the chain a 2-day heads up, he can get me what I want. But in season, the private butcher can get me all the venison I want.
    Veal is much more available in Europe, where they don’t have the land to pasture the animals to maturity as we do here.

    Rack of lamb is better than steak, or even veal. EXPENSIVE!

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Just what he needs. Another plug.

    :lol:


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