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Astronaut and American hero Neil Armstrong, a Navy man to the end, to be buried at sea

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 58 Comments › )
Filed under History, Military, Patriotism, Space Exploration at September 10th, 2012 - 8:00 pm

Sea burial for Armstrong, Navy man to end

Neil Armstrong, a traditional Navy man to the end, will be buried at sea.

His colleagues from the Gemini and Apollo space programs had speculated about where Armstrong might go to rest.

Some thought near his hometown in Wapakoneta, Ohio, others thought perhaps closer to his home in the Cincinnati suburb of Indian Hill, where he spent the last decades of his life.

Instead, the first man to set foot on the moon wanted a traditional burial from the side of a ship.

“Well, he’s a Navy man,” said fellow astronaut and longtime friend Jim Lovell.

Armstrong’s Navy career began in 1947, when he enlisted in the Naval ROTC and went to college.

From that moment forward, many of the most significant events of his life involved the water.

By 1950, at the age of 20, he was stationed on the USS Essex, about 100 miles off of Wonsan Bay in the Sea of Japan.

He flew 78 combat missions, and after each of them he would fly back over the water toward the safety of the Essex.

In March 1966, after a successful but harrowing trip aboard Gemini 8, Armstrong went through re-entry before three parachutes opened and he dropped into the Pacific Ocean.

In July 1969, after Armstrong landed on the moon, after he said, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind” as he stepped onto the surface of the moon, he flew back again to water.

Armstrong and his crew splashed down in the Pacific Ocean and were picked up by the USS Hornet.

Returning to the water meant his mission was complete.

“It’s how he knew he was finished,” Lovell said.

“It’s how he knew his work was done.”

Details of the burial have not been released, and may not be.

The U.S. Navy confirmed it would perform the ceremony but cited the Armstrong family’s wishes for privacy in deciding to not say where, when or from which ship the burial would take place.

It is not known if this will be a full-body burial or a dropping of ashes.

In a burial involving casketed remains, according to naval regulations, taps will be played, there will be a prayer, a firing of arms, a salute and then the board holding the casket will be tilted forward, allowing the casket to slide into the sea.

The ceremony for cremated ashes is similar.

Armstrong had told his family this was how he wanted to be buried.

“It was his wish,” said family spokesman Rick Miller.

Burials at sea are a naval tradition mentioned in Homer’s “Odyssey” and in “Moby Dick.”

During times of war, American and British sailors who died at sea were sometimes wrapped in a sail weighted with cannonballs or chains and dropped into the water.

The practice was last in common usage during World War II, when many men died at sea and ships sometimes would be away from port for weeks or months at a time.

Today, the Navy still offers sea burials from deployed naval vessels for eligible personnel.

Because the ships are deployed, family members are not present, although exceptions can be made.

People eligible for a burial at sea include active-duty military; retirees and veterans who were honorably discharged; U.S. civilian marine personnel of the Military Sealift Command and dependent family members of active-duty personnel, retirees and veterans of the uniformed services.

The Navy performs, on average, approximately 900 burials at sea each year.

“It’s not as rare as you might think,” said Navy spokesman Ed Ziegler.

A public memorial service for Armstrong will be held on Thursday at Washington National Cathedral. The service will be conducted by the Right Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde. Political leaders and NASA astronauts, both active and retired, are expected to attend.

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58 Responses to “Astronaut and American hero Neil Armstrong, a Navy man to the end, to be buried at sea”
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  1. 1 | September 10, 2012 8:04 pm

    God bless this man. Imagine, if you will, that this may have occurred in absentia, had something gone horribly wrong. Nixon had a speech prepped for such a contingency. Here’s the text of that speech:

    “Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace.
    “These brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, know that there is no hope for their recovery. But they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice. These two men are laying down their lives in mankind’s most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.
    “They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.
    “In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one: in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man.
    “In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations. In modern times, we do much the same, but our heroes are epic men of flesh and blood.
    “Others will follow, and surely find their way home. Man’s search will not be denied. But these men were the first, and they will remain the foremost in our hearts.
    “For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind.”

    It made me cry just to read this. God bless you, Neil.


  2. 2 | September 10, 2012 8:37 pm

    @ Macker:

    Funny thing happened to me, on August 24th I was over at my little brothers house, as is my habit on Fridays. And as we sat out on his back patio, I looked up in the sky and saw a very large bright full moon in the sky.

    I looked at that moon for several minuets, then turned to my little brother and said to him. Do you believe it’s been over 40 years since Neil Armstrong walked on the moon? I wonder if we will go back in my lifetime.

    Neil Armstrong passed away on August 25th, the very next day.


  3. 3 | September 10, 2012 8:44 pm

    This reminds me of those Ultima games, where you had to choose between virtues, and that decided your path as an “avatar”.

    Armstrong chose sacrifice -- loyalty to the Navy.


  4. 4 | September 10, 2012 8:48 pm

    A burial on the moon would have been more honour: to remind future generations of what they can aspire toward.


  5. 5 | September 10, 2012 8:54 pm

    We were in space ones. What a shame.


  6. 6 | September 10, 2012 8:55 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I can’t believe we were there once.


  7. AZfederalist
    7 | September 10, 2012 9:00 pm

    Rest in peace Neil Armstrong. You are an example of a real American hero. I agree with others, burial on the moon would have been fitting; but this was his wishes for his final resting place.


  8. Xeon
    8 | September 10, 2012 9:04 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Similar story, On Sept 9, 2001, my friend Dan and I were down by the river
    (Hudson) it was a crystal clear night and I mentioned how we could see the individual windows of The World Trade Center, we were about 6 miles away.
    36 hours later……not so much.


  9. Xeon
    9 | September 10, 2012 9:06 pm

    Sorry, my previous post was a reply to Dorian.


  10. brookly red
    11 | September 10, 2012 9:22 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Hmmmm Israeli Government declaring Obama Birth Certificate a Fake?

    could just be a warning shot… if anyone has the goods on him it is the Mosad


  11. Calo
    12 | September 10, 2012 9:23 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Ha! Now that reminds me of this blog post I read a bit ago


  12. 13 | September 10, 2012 9:24 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Ha! Now that reminds me of this blog post I read a bit ago

    Na,can’t possibly, that Israeli dude is actually intelligent… :razz:


  13. brookly red
    14 | September 10, 2012 9:25 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Rest in peace Neil Armstrong. You are an example of a real American hero. I agree with others, burial on the moon would have been fitting; but this was his wishes for his final resting place.

    indeed…

    and while we are remembering those passed, the WTC memorial lights are something to behold tonight.


  14. 15 | September 10, 2012 9:33 pm

    @ Xeon:

    I saw the attack in real time.


  15. Da_Beerfreak
    16 | September 10, 2012 9:39 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Heh™ :lol:


  16. brookly red
    17 | September 10, 2012 9:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Xeon:

    I saw the attack in real time.

    corner of Canal & Lispenard was close enough for me…


  17. 18 | September 10, 2012 9:50 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Xeon:
    I saw the attack in real time.

    corner of Canal & Lispenard was close enough for me…

    I saw it on TV, even that was closer than I wanted to see it.


  18. brookly red
    19 | September 10, 2012 10:01 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ doriangrey:

    just wanted to mention that the 0′s apology tour pissed off a lot more blue-staters then you might think.


  19. 20 | September 10, 2012 10:10 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jersey City, right across the Hudson.


  20. 21 | September 10, 2012 10:11 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yet both parties wnat to help al-Qaeda in Syria. Amazing.


  21. brookly red
    23 | September 10, 2012 10:17 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    why yes, that is exactly what I said…


  22. darkwords
    24 | September 10, 2012 10:17 pm

    Britain rules the universe once again. Dr. Who had to be involved.


  23. darkwords
    25 | September 10, 2012 10:20 pm

    @ 22 doriangrey: When you think about it, what an accomplishment. ” I went to the moon and walked on it”. ” Then I came back”. I wouldn’t give two cents to anyone who wasted brain cells trying to advocate it never happens. I would give 2 cents if they retained a shrink. Otherwise it’s not worth my time unless I feel like ridiculing someone.


  24. darkwords
    26 | September 10, 2012 10:22 pm

    @ 21 Rodan: Taking a geo political side in that war without concessions to the west is not useful to civilization. Better to tell the Russians to get in there and turn them all into commies.


  25. darkwords
    27 | September 10, 2012 10:24 pm

    @ 2 doriangrey: i doubt if I will tell you my life highlight then. To there and back again.


  26. darkwords
    28 | September 10, 2012 10:26 pm

    @ 1 Macker: IT seems odd but the imagination around those events on the moon have powered civilization for decades. Once the bean counters are locked in a closet just think on what a trip to mars would be like.

    We should put up a space station that orbits the sun. Staging area for a mars trip.


  27. darkwords
    29 | September 10, 2012 10:27 pm

    I’ve tebowed the thread.


  28. 30 | September 10, 2012 10:29 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 21 Rodan: Taking a geo political side in that war without concessions to the west is not useful to civilization. Better to tell the Russians to get in there and turn them all into commies.

    Our elites have a soft spot for Islam. Decades of Saudi money have done that.


  29. brookly red
    31 | September 10, 2012 10:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Our elites have a soft spot for Islam. Decades of Saudi money have done that.

    yet the Saudis would just as soon be rid of AQ… perhaps there is something here yet unseen?


  30. 32 | September 10, 2012 10:42 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Hmmmm Israeli Government declaring Obama Birth Certificate a Fake?

    It is a forgery, as anyone who has ever used Photoshop could tell you.

    Absolutely no room for doubt about that whatsoever.

    The real question is: what is being covered up? Is it the possibility that Obama’s real father is actually the US citizen and avowed Communist, Frank Marshall Davis?

    Or could it be something else entirely?

    I don’t expect that we will ever know for sure.


  31. 33 | September 10, 2012 10:44 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 21 Rodan: Taking a geo political side in that war without concessions to the west is not useful to civilization. Better to tell the Russians to get in there and turn them all into commies.

    Modern-day Russians are NOT commies.

    You want to see commies, they’re on THIS side of the pond. In the White House.


  32. lobo91
    34 | September 10, 2012 10:48 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    It is a forgery, as anyone who has ever used Photoshop could tell you.

    And not even a particularly good one, which leads me to wonder where it came from.


  33. brookly red
    35 | September 10, 2012 10:52 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Modern-day Russians are NOT commies.

    You want to see commies, they’re on THIS side of the pond. In the White House.

    the difference is the Russian commies used useful idiots and the Lib commies use useless idiots. I wish I was just snarking.


  34. brookly red
    36 | September 10, 2012 10:53 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    And not even a particularly good one, which leads me to wonder where it came from.

    why a preferred diversity vendor of course :)


  35. lobo91
    37 | September 10, 2012 10:57 pm

    Not only was this past weekend the worst gun show I’ve been to yet as far as customers, but I had to spend it sitting next to a conspiracy theorist.

    It was a really long couple of days.


  36. 38 | September 10, 2012 10:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Not only was this past weekend the worst gun show I’ve been to yet as far as customers, but I had to spend it sitting next to a conspiracy theorist.
    It was a really long couple of days.

    OUCH… Now that’s a down right scary thought, a conspiracy theorist with a gun… :shock:


  37. lobo91
    39 | September 10, 2012 11:01 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I had Leia there to protect me.


  38. 40 | September 10, 2012 11:01 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I remember when it was released last year, you said it was fake right off the bat.


  39. 41 | September 10, 2012 11:02 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Don’t fall for that. The Saudi fund AQ.


  40. brookly red
    42 | September 10, 2012 11:02 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    OUCH… Now that’s a down right scary thought, a conspiracy theorist with a gun…

    they are usually only a threat to immediate family…


  41. brookly red
    43 | September 10, 2012 11:03 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Don’t fall for that. The Saudi fund AQ.

    well yes and no, it’s more like a protection racket


  42. lobo91
    44 | September 10, 2012 11:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    I remember when it was released last year, you said it was fake right off the bat.

    It’s blatantly obvious. If you magnify it, you can see that the background isn’t consistant around some of the entries. If it were a modern computer-generated document, you might see stuff like that, but this is supposed to be a pre-printed form with typed information entered on it. There’s no reason the act of typing (or hand writing) onto a form should alter the background.


  43. brookly red
    45 | September 10, 2012 11:07 pm

    this is so wrong in so many ways…

    http://freebeacon.com/great-green-car-fleet/


  44. AZfederalist
    46 | September 10, 2012 11:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Not only was this past weekend the worst gun show I’ve been to yet as far as customers

    Low traffic? That’s surprising.


  45. lobo91
    47 | September 10, 2012 11:07 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Don’t fall for that. The Saudi fund AQ.

    well yes and no, it’s more like a protection racket

    Al Qaeda does receive funding from some elements in Saudi Arabia, but not from the Saudi monarchy. The Saudi royal family is right at the top of al Qaeda’s hitlist.


  46. lobo91
    48 | September 10, 2012 11:09 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Not only was this past weekend the worst gun show I’ve been to yet as far as customers

    Low traffic? That’s surprising.

    It was awful. Nobody was buying anything.

    In two days, I had a grand total of 5 people sign up for my free course drawing.


  47. brookly red
    49 | September 10, 2012 11:09 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    alter the background.

    interesting choice of words… LOL


  48. lobo91
    50 | September 10, 2012 11:15 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    alter the background.

    interesting choice of words… LOL

    Not as interesting as the total lack of interest by anyone in looking at it.

    Compare that to what happened with the equally-bogus Bush National Guard memo.


  49. Calo
    51 | September 10, 2012 11:17 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I had a grand total of 5 people sign up for my free course drawing.

    That’s probably the most depressing thing I have read all day.
    Even free stuff isn’t worth the effort of most people.

    Come on America, wake up!
    Support local businesses.

    And Lobo, sic Leia on them next time they pass you by.


  50. lobo91
    52 | September 10, 2012 11:19 pm

    @ Calo:

    I should have charged people to pet Leia, instead.


  51. 53 | September 10, 2012 11:23 pm

    @ brookly red:

    True.


  52. 54 | September 10, 2012 11:24 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Yup.


  53. AZfederalist
    55 | September 10, 2012 11:39 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Hopefully the next one goes better. Did you get any sign-ups for your course?


  54. lobo91
    56 | September 10, 2012 11:44 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Hopefully the next one goes better. Did you get any sign-ups for your course?

    Nope. A few people took cards, but that was it.


  55. The Osprey
    57 | September 11, 2012 12:16 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    When is a Conspiracy Theory not a Conspiracy Theory?

    At Der Bilderburger, ve bild a bettah burger!
    (Henry Kissinger voice impersonated)

    And don’t forget our Grassy Knoll Salad Bar!

    Bilderburger… A conspiracy of good taste(tm).


  56. Will Consult for Food
    58 | September 11, 2012 10:26 am

    The Hornet is a museum and film set now. Too bad they can’t take it out for a state funeral. But I guess the family wants this to be private so I can respect that.


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