THERE ARE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THAT PICTURE. NEVER FORGET WHO DID IT.
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9/11 REMEMBER ALWAYS – NEVER FORGET 9/11
by Bunk X ( 30 Comments › )Filed under Al Qaeda, History, Islamic Invasion, Islamic Terrorism, Islamists, Special Report at September 11th, 2012 - 9:10 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
LAN ASTASLEM! I will NOT Submit!
It makes me sick that 11 years after 9/11 Islam is stronger as a political force, al-Qaeda is stronger and both parties support them in Syria.
I don’t want to think about this.
We should have turned Afghanistan into glass then posted a sign on the borders.
This is what happens when you F*CK with the USA.
Don’t F*CK with us!!!!
I hate reflecting pools and groves of remembrance.
If I had my way, the memorial at Ground Zero would be a scale model of the Towers in steel the moment after the second plane hit, and there would be eternal flames in both of them.
The Towers would be set in a plaza that was a scaled map of lower Manhattan and Brooklyn, and they would be surrounded by scale models in bronze of the buildings around the Towers as they were that day. There would be bronze flakes scattered in the terrazzo map that was the floor of this plaza, showing the pattern/direction of the burning memoranda, borne on the wind, that floated over Brooklyn as the Towers came down.
Those seeking remembrance would be able to walk among these buildings and see, replicated in miniature, what happened today. They would be able to see the names of those who died on the planes and in the Towers, including the names of the would-be rescuers, carved into the surrounding perimeter wall. And to get there they would walk on the names of the terrorists, carved into the pavement of the entrance pathways.
I was hoping this thread would be non-political. Fuck you guys that did. G-d bless the victims and their families.
MikeA wrote:
Amen to that.
@ MikeA:
Works for me. Our response should have been delivered from sub-orbit and measured in megatons.
Iron Fist wrote:
Exactly.
BTW…here’s a link to the September 11 thread on Blogmocracy from last year.
theoutsider wrote:
Then you’re an ass.
What is non-political about a terrorist attack?
Forgiveness of one’s enemies can only come after remorse and restitution, all I’ve seen from the Muslim world at-large is triumphalism and the promise of more attacks.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
War is political. It was Clausewitz who said war is a continuation of politics by other means. This is really beyond debate. We live in a society that tries to deny this basic reality. Some things cannot be settled simply by talking them over. Islam has no intention to co-exist with other religions or secular society. This is a demonstrable fact.. War was the only legitimate response to 9-11. I only regret that it wasn’t prosecuted to the fullest. There is really only one war crime, and that is to lose.
@ Iron Fist:
We went on a welfare/nation building project.
@ Iron Fist:
Don’t try to reason with him/her. As they say… Never teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
A post from David French on the National Review website this morning.
While this position is not particularly popular, I can’t argue with any of it. It pretty much sums up my own feelings. In hindsight, there are things I would have done differently but I also understand that is the case with all wars.
Anyway, it’s a good post.
To honor the canina heroes of 9/11
http://explore.org/#!/videos/player/911-tribute-debra-abby
The way أوباما treats America and her allies, I suspect he danced for joy on 9/11 and handed out candy in the streets. The anger which we, still, rightfully possess (as noted in the article above) should indeed be channelled…first, toward voting that SCOAMF out on his ass, and second, renewing the fight with the Mohammedans on the battlefield.
This could have been written by Rodan…….
http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/09/11/remembering-911-at-least-for-a-day/
@ MacDuff:
I disagree somewhat. We have been far too soft on our enemy. I just finished reading a rather unflattering biography of Sherman. While it essentially indicted Sherman for war crimes, it really ignored what was essential about Sherman and his March to the Sea: what he did was necessary to win the war. Anything less than what Sherman and Grant dealt to the South would have failed. To continue with the bloody stalemate of McClellan would have eventually allowed the South to win her independence.
Likewise, being gentlemanly about our conduct vis a vis the Mohammedans does not win us victory in the ultimate test of wills. The Mohammedans brag that they love death, and Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. If we are unwilling to strike a hard blow, well, I don’t think that the Iranians will hesitate.
@ Iron Fist:
Look at how Romney and Obama both support the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria. It is madness!
@ Rodan:
Indeed, and that certainly tempers my enthusiasm for Romney, but make no mistake: Romney is far better than Obama even in this regard. Still, what is absent is any real leader in the war with Islam. And make no mistake, Islam is at war with us (and, more generally at war with civilization) no matter what face our putative leaders put on it. The American people don’t want to hear the truth about Islam. They are more concerned about being called “Islamophobic” than they are rationally hating an enemy that is unafraid of hating us. You never hear anyone use the term America-phobic for the America haters. Why is that? Because the Left are America haters themselves.
Iron Fist wrote:
I don’t have an argument with any of that. One of my primary bones of contention with Bush was his statement that Islam is “a religion of peace” and that we’re not “at war with Islam”. It’s clearly not and we clearly are and making these specific statements was unnecessary when silence would have been more powerful. Post 9/11, I think much of the Muslim world was genuinely fearful of what we might do, reassuring them, alas, diminished that fear.
That said, going after the Muslim world as they deserved (rhetorically and/or militarily) poses its own set of problems, particularly when you’re eight months into a presidency after an eight year administration that had seriously contracted our military.
@ Iron Fist:
I’m only voting for Romney based on economic issues. I don’t care for his nation building centered foreign policy.
And in commemoration of this day -- Egyptian protesters have invaded our embassy in Cairo, pulled down the American flag and raised the black flag of Al Qaeda.
@ Rodan:
I’m voting for him because it is imperative that this President is a danger to the world because of his pro-Islamic viewpoint.
He has also, by the way, refused to meet with Bebe Netanyahu when he is in New York. Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood gets a foreign aid fruitbasket.
@ MacDuff:
I am not sure if I could improve on what was said. I am still angry, still desiring to pick up my ruck and rifle one more time and go into the hornet’s nest. This year marks the most difficult paradigm. A long slow drag to the finish, while I know the transition will give me little time to prepare. I am still young, but my body does not agree. I am putting the next generation into platoons, deploying them and knowing that there is not another deployment for me. But last year on this day, I got to enjoy a cheeseburger with bacon, firmly ensconced in the Taliban’s back yard. I got to mark my 4th deployment with my US Flag flown for the 4th time in the enemy’s turf, twice in Iraq, once in Mindanao, finally it returns to its box with its aerial display over Afghanistan. But I sustain my anger.
I am angriest at the people who dared ask; why do they hate us? I am angry at those who rather than giving of themselves, only ask what will be given to them. I am angry that those I have vowed to protect till my last full measure, have instead looked at me as the enemy, treating me and my brothers and sisters with suspicion. All the while, the real enemy sits protected by our misguided ROE or our very own Constitution. Osama bin Ladin may be dead, but Khalid Sheik Mohammad, who planned and directed the 9/11 attacks, he; like GM is still alive sustained by the taxpayer.
Unfortunately, there are those who don’t want to politicize this, and agree with them to a degree. This is a time when we should be united and fully committed to destroying the enemy, however we are not. The enemy was not a few islamic leaders, it is an entire ideology. We celebrated the death of Qaddafi, to whom? Muslim Brotherhood killers. We think that democracy blooms in the middle east, when in reality, the kaliphate grows. We are faced with a stark choice with no good solution in Syria. Am I angry, yes, the fight should be done by now, but no, because of ignorance and laziness, our grandchildren will still be fighting these scumbags.
@ bluliner10:
well said.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Indeed they did. We should be able to call the enemy the by their name especially on this day that they killed nearly 3000 innocent people.
They are still at war with us. And calling out the enemy isn’t anything political as one poster up thread said. So lets ignore who killed 3000 American people today according to that person. Especially since hey they still are at war with us. Idiotic to the extreme. Islam is still at war with the west and I don’t feel guilty one bit about calling them out whether it seems political or not. Too many Americans have buried their heads into the sand even 11 years out. Face the facts I say. They still have American blood on their hands as far as I am concerned and they are getting more radical (as if they can be even more so but they are) by the day.
@ bluliner10:
Very well said. I thank you for your service. And you were not the poster I was referring to in my post. Our enemy has said they are at war with us…we say no …our enemy says this is a religious war …we say no. And our ROE’s is truly dreadful for our soldiers.
@ 5 theoutsider: Fire Fighters who died that day. I think it is well worth it at least looking at their picture and remembering them as hero. And if one is able give them a greater blessing to where they are headed.
A tremendous sacrifice.
I had a link to the police site also but lost it in a pc upgrade. NO doubt many of these men and women would be Obama voters. But that has really no consideration to me in their sacrifice. I view them as bigger than the politics.
bluliner10 wrote:
Bluliner, thank you for your service and for your clarity as to the motivations of our enemies. My fear is that our senior officers do not share that clarity, or a choose to suppress it in the name of political correctness. My hope is that those of your generation who rise in the ranks will bring that clarity to the fore.