Who’s the greater Fools? The Fools, or the Fools who follow them?
As a Navy Brat, I take my patriotism and love of the United States of America very seriously, as do millions of Americans. But there is one group which wears its patriotism on its sleeve and conjures up imagery which is supposed to convey that they, too, care for our Armed Forces.
Nothing is further from the Truth, and that group is, of course, the Demo☭rat Party. Witness this glorious display near the close of the convention, before the SCOAMF takes to the stage to heal the land and stop the wildfires:
The problem with this photo is: those aren’t American warships. They’re Russian:
The background — featured in the carefully choreographed hour leading up to the president’s Sept. 6 speech accepting the Democratic Party’s nomination — showed four ships with radar designs not used in the U.S. fleet.
For example, the ship in the foreground, on the far right, has a square radar antenna at the top of its masthead. That is the MR-700 Podberezovik 3-D early warning radar, commonly identified as “Flat Screen” for its appearance, a three-dimensional early warning radar mounted on the Kerch, said Eric Wertheim, editor of “Combat Fleets of the World.”
Similarly, the third ship has a MR-310 “Head Net” air search radar, shaped like two off-set bananas, at its masthead and is mostly likely the guided missile destroyer Smetlivyy. The first two ships seem to be Krivak-class frigates, but it’s hard to discern from the silhouette, experts said.
But the fact they are Russian ships is not in doubt. In addition to the ship’s radar arrays and hulls, which are dissimilar from U.S. warships, the photo features one more give-away: a large white flag with a blue ‘X’ at the ships’ sterns.
Polmar, who authored “The Naval Institute Guide to the Soviet Navy,” recognized the blue ‘X’-mark: “The X is the Cross of St. Andrew’s, which is a Russian Navy symbol,” Polmar said. (An anchored U.S. warship, by contrast, flies the American flag on its stern.)
Based on this specific group of these ship types, one naval expert concluded that this was most likely a photo of the Black Sea Fleet.
I’ll bet Ol’ Pooty shed some tears when he got word of this! I am also sad…no, livid…that there are people who continue to be suckered into believing that the Demo☭rat Party, with TOTUS at the head, actually care. They can’t bring themselves to accept the fact that there are two ships in our Fleet named after Presidents they can’t stand.
Which is but one more reason we must vote the SCOAMF and his Demo☭rat henchmen OUT on November 6.
They could have played the Soviet national anthem. It is stirring music, and much closer to the Democrats’ ideology than the Star Spangled Banner.
Be fair -- the Dems are paying close attention to military priorities…
http://freebeacon.com/great-green-car-fleet/
That will strike fear into the hearts of our enemies!
@ Mike C.:
Doesn’t the fuel for the green fleet cost a lot more than regular oil. IIRC it does. They are damaging the military in more than one way with their religious bigotry.
Even by today’s Democrat party standards (or lack thereof), this is pretty breathtaking. I remember some crusty ol’ CPOs that are likely spinning in their graves, or stroking out if theyre still alive.
Iron Fist wrote:
They run up the cost of fuel and use that increased cost to justify cutting the number of ships. Cynical bastards.
I got spanked by lobo yesterday and rightly so.
50 marines to ‘increase security’. Apparently from Spain.
There is a battalion in Kuwait -- w/Ospreys and Cobras.
500 marines w/armour and firepower vs. 50 marines.
@ eaglesoars:
The Marines from Rota are part of the Marine Security Forces. They are a Platoon from FAST Company (Fleet Anti-Terrorist). They are trained shooters and their sole purpose in life is protecting the Embassies around the world. Most of their deployments are rarely broadcast, but for example we had a diplomatic liaison at the former Embassy in Mogadishu, Somalia in the early 90′s. FAST Co was involved in 63 firefights in nearly 50 days of deployment. Not one Marine from FAST was killed. The 500 Marines in Kuwait are mostly Aircrew and mechanics to the aviation assets. I know there is a small security element, but that is not as robust as the FAST Co. So while the numbers would appear to better favor my Kuwait based brothers (including a small detachment from my battalion), the guys coming from Spain are far more appropriate and lethal. Semper Fi
Cnn is now taking the mohammed movie that was nothing more than a diversion seriously. Some actress is saying she was’grossly misled’.
Whatever.
All I know is that the men on CNN are sorely lacking in testosterone.
eaglesoars wrote:
Methinks these members of the “Marine Corpse” (as Obama has referred to them on at least two occasions) are more for show than actual security………..another foolish risk.
events continue to spin out of control
Embassies in 7 countries warn of possible attacks
The U.S. Embassy says its consulate in Berlin has been evacuated as a precaution after an employee reported a strange smell from an envelope.
@ eaglesoars:
50 marines would be about a full platoon with a small heavy weapons detachment. In todays terms that’s a lot of firepower.
bluliner10 wrote:
thank you for the education. I plead I’M NOT IN A GOOD MOOD AND I WANT A LOT OF DEAD PEOPLE
Until about noon, that’s my foreign policy.
Thank you for your service.
I have not earned the honor of saluting anyone with Semper Fi but what the hell -- I’m an American.
Semper Fi
Weekly Jobless Claims Jump; Producer Prices Gassed Up
state unemployment benefits rose 15,000 to a seasonally adjusted 382,000, the highest in two months, the Labor Department said on Thursday.
I despise the demoncraps as much as anyone. However they are pretty cagey. I would not expect them to show their hand so openly. Could these ships pictures just be ignorance on their part, one scary looking ship looking just like another?
Who hasn’t seen the talking heads make basic error with regards to firearm? Showing a picture of a pump shotgun while talking about assault rifles?
@ MacDuff:
No, I would not bet any money against FAST regardless the opponent.
eaglesoars wrote:
Funny you should mention that. Yet another acronym for CNN: Catamite News Network!
bluliner10 wrote:
Then I stand corrected regarding @ MacDuff….
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10413935
CBS News Boss: We’re Not Biased
In fact, Rhodes said CBS is a beacon of unbiased news.
Read more: http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10413935#ixzz26M34FAJa
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahha
@ eaglesoars:
I think we should treat Benghazi the way Sherman treated Columbia, South Carolina. Burn the whole thing to the ground.
Iron Fist wrote:
Benghazi? Crimeny, Fist, get out of that bubble. Libya. All of it.
Like I said, I’m not in a good mood.
@ bluliner10:
@ eaglesoars:
I agree on both points.
I might add that the MFM needs to be called out as the covert arm of demoncrap party. The obama administration’s handling of these acts of war, is a clear example that our disastrous foreign policy and submission to islam is a feature not an unintended consequence of naive bumblers.
@ Iron Fist:
You do realize that 10 Libyans died defending our Consulate against the terrorists? We have much more support there, than opposition.
@ rain of lead:
from your first link
Must be because the ‘other options’ aren’t biased.
@ theoutsider:
Ten Libyans, count ‘em, Ten…against a few MILLION Mohammedans. I call BULL-SHIT!
@ eaglesoars:
yeah, who knew?
citizen_q wrote:
Have you noticed that the collusion among reporters was exposed yesterday vis a vis questioning Romney and they are still beating that not-yet-dead-horse?
Their tool-box is empty. They have nothing else. Part of the fun of watching Morning Joe is tracking Mika looking at whatever communication device she uses and popping back up with a brand new question -- after she admitted -- ok, wrong word because she’s proud of if -- acknowledged -- that she takes talking points from the White House.
This is beyond corrupt.
this is good
a 3 min vid chock full of news you can use
How to Behave During an Islamic Massacre
US embassy in Yemen stormed in film protest
@ theoutsider:
You got a link for that? Because I’ve not seen that anywhere. Certainly Obama didn’t mention that in his statement. Odd omission, if it’s true.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yes, I did. You are right their behavior is beyond corrupt. It is journOlist all over again, but out in the open. They don’t even feel the need to even hide what they are doing.
Iron Fist wrote:
I think it’s at FactsPulledOutOfMyAss.com.
Iron Fist wrote:
MacDuff wrote:
found it here
seems weak to me
http://inagist.com/all/246082680071000064/
@ Guggi:
I heard that this film has been out over a year, I think the summer of 2011.
I feel these attacks were planned and someone just trolled around to find something as pretext. Now we have some from the Joint Chiefs of Staff trying to enforce islam’s blasphemy laws by leaning on the FL preacher.
What’s will the pretext be for the next round of muslim barbarity my posts critical and mocking of islam and mo-ham-head?
citizen_q wrote:
It was last year I think -- Nora O’Donell on Morning Joe -- said BUT WE CONTROL THE NARRATIVE
[deleted]
@ rain of lead:
looks like just a tweet no real facts to back it up
outsider is full of shit
@ rain of lead:
Heh, yeah, I’m sure @lordxmen2k is quite the expert…….
@ rain of lead:
TThat is just somebody tweeting. That is hardly verified fact. Given the anti-Romney tenor of the rest of the tweet I am inclined to think that MacDuff has the right of it._
citizen_q wrote:
Oh yeah. al Zawarhiri called for these attacks weeks ago as retaliation for our killing of al Libi. This Bacile guy who made that bullshit movie? I’m beginning to think that’s part of their plan. He is self-identified as an Israeli Jew, living in Calif., currently in hiding.
Sound convenient to you? Me too.
As for the General who contacted Terry Jones- he should be discharged with pension.
eaglesoars wrote:
Our military’s top brass is looking increasingly unworthy of our military.
@ eaglesoars:
We live in a sick disturbed world.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yes I do find that strange.
eaglesoars wrote:
I am curious if doing that was his own bright idea, or if he was put up to it.
@ MacDuff:
You have no idea how disappointed I am with Patreaus (sp?)
citizen_q wrote:
I don’t know if the film was out since summer 2011 but it was made in summer 2011. The youtube vids were out for quite a while before the Egyptian “outraged” about them.
citizen_q wrote:
Of course the were planned like the ones about the cartoons.
I can’t say how much I disgust this “preacher” but that the chairman of the JCS calls him to silence him and to strip him of his 1st amendment, is beyond belief. I always thought the US-military is there to protect the constitution INCLUDING the 1st amendment. Isn’t there an oath where they promise it ?
eaglesoars wrote:
Petraeus
Iron Fist wrote:
Some Libyan security guards were killed along with the embassy staff. They weren’t “defending” them but were killed accidently.
citizen_q wrote:
Let’s put it this way. There is always resignation. I got that from my dad, a pilot in WWII, awarded the DFC. You don’t take on a mission constructed to cover somebody else’s ass. You are there to kill the enemy. That is the only reason you ask your men to follow you. That’s it.
Guggi wrote:
Agreed.
Notice how our leadership accepts and works with the position put forth by the enemy?
@ Guggi:
The makers of this movie have every right to make it. Mohammedans don’t get a terrorists’ veto just because they are a religion of violence. Indeed, freedom must be defended when it offends people. Taxpayers money didn’t go to pay for this film. It is a private citizen exercising his rights here. It was disgusting and pussilanamous for the State Department to apologize for the hurt feelings of the barbarian horde.
eaglesoars wrote:
Honor
Is it missing at the top?
A superb but rather down bit piece by Mark Steyn on the Islamic Winter and the waning of the west.http://www.steynonline.com/5130/the-abhorrent-vacuum
Excerpts,
@ Guggi:
Thanks, that puts it into context. Typical of the Outsider to try to spin it in an anti-American, pro-terrorist way.
@ rain of lead:
That was hysterical. Thanks for sharing!!
Iron Fist wrote:
As far as I am concerned rioting muslims are a target rich environment.
If the goddammed muslims get upset hearing something they don’t like, change the channel.
@ MacDuff:
Saudi Money.
eaglesoars wrote:
Far too often, it seems the more stars they get, the more they become more political. One of the reasons our military is so successful is that their mission has traditionally been unambiguous and straight-forward. These increasingly frequent forays into politics is troubling.
citizen_q wrote:
Yes. In pockets. But this is not new. There have always been political opportunists in the military. That General -- Dempsey? -- is one.
Try General George McClellan during the Civil War.
Perspective
@ eaglesoars:
McClellan is exactly who I thought of. If Lincoln had left him in charge the South would have eventually won.
gotta go. meeting w/Molly’s surgeon.
Just on general principles, I want to thank everyone here for -- well I dunno. Just being you guys. And hey! Where else would I have even THOUGHT about making soap? {Lily}
much love and thanks
eaglesoars
I can’t remember anyone reading a statement with the profound lack of emotion and conviction that Hillary Clinton.
@ Iron Fist:
Gen. Dempsey is fugly
brrrrr….
MacDuff wrote:
I thought the same thing. Obama’s live statement was very anemic as well.
Rodan wrote:
Much of our future hinges on energy independence from non-North American sources. That’s something that’s stood out with Romney; “Energy Independence” is rather gauzy and questionable as to practicality. Romney speaks of making North America energy independent, which is quite achievable.
@ African Moondog:
just keep in mind what he said in Vegas. He had a “tough day”. I am sure the dead guys had a tougher one.
On another note, loved this line from a story about the Libya attack:
“Assuming we don’t die tonight,” the message, which was first reported by Wired, read. “We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.”
Seems more proof it was an inside job.
Rasmussen has Romney at 47% and Obama at 46% today. So much for Obama’s convention bounce. I think that it is going to be a nailbiter, but we CAN win, and we can still win the whole thing, House, Senate, and White House. That will be awesome if it happens.
Our murdered Ambassador Christopher Stevens had a direct hand
in the Libyan Revolution.
He was smuggled into Benghazi when the rebels were having
trouble. He organized the militias to cooperate to defeat Khadafi.
there is some real irony
@ RIX:
when are they going to realize that islam and western individual rights are incompatible.
African Moondog wrote:
In terms of foreign policy alone, this is an administration, and a party at-large, eaten up with apathy. The only thing that animates them is elections -- actually doing the job, not so much. Embassies under attack across North Africa and the Middle East, an Ambassador and three staffers dead and the President declines a meeting with the Prime Minister of Israel, our primary (arguably our only) ally in the region. With all this in mind, half of the American people see fit to give this President another go at it.
MikeA wrote:
You can not conclude that and maintain standing as a Democrat.
John McCain has an inability to admit error.
He was on the tube this morning still defending the Arab
Spring & his “heroes”.
He claims that the Libyans voted against extremism!
This would not have happened under Mommar, he was tamed
and knew better.
McCain needs to move to the Villages & shut up.
MacDuff wrote:
It is obvious they only truly care about their own power and position.
They are contemptible.
MikeA wrote:
Ours has become too small a world to allow people their barbarity in the interest of “diversity” and “tolerance”; their profound societal sickness impacts us as surely as though it were a rampant virus.
@ MacDuff:
Hey , if you keep up this Obama bashing, Charles Foster Johnson
will block your account!
How ya doin bro?
@ RIX:
I saw Miss Lindsey on Fox last night saying we needed to be more involved with the a-rab spring.
@ MikeA:
They know that. They’ve decided Islam comes first. Look at our groveling response to this attack. It is shameful.
@ citizen_q:
We should be involved long enough for a B-1 to do a nuke lay-down…
Saw on do a demo at an airshow a couple of weeks ago. SWEET!!!!
RIX wrote:
They say one can be judged as effectively by your circle of enemies as well as by your circle of friends, ya know?
I’m good, my friend. The little lady’s knee replacement rehab is ongoing, but she’s right on track.
citizen_q wrote:
Were McCains lips moving?
Does anyone know if we actually fired on these savages in Benghazi?
@ Iron Fist:
What are you talking about? This is the best foreign policy prez ever! Someone said that and well it must be true. This administration has it in the bag. We had no other choice. Treating Israel as an annoyance and the rest of the middle east as our bffs is working I tell you!
@ MacDuff:
.
Glad to hear that. If she stays religious about the rehab, there will
be no limp & no more pain.
The quality of her life will be so much better. Good for her.
RIX wrote:
They were planted firmly on the ass of our enemies.
@ MacDuff:
Romney gets it.
Hillary Clinton expressed more outrage today at the murders
and violations of our embassies.
Actually she didn’t, she is critical of the movie calling it
“despicable & reprehensible”
Apparently Hillary is much more supportive of the tortured
Constitutional right to abortion in any circumstance, but
must believe that free speech is a suggestion and situational.
MacDuff wrote:
He is annoying & runs to every camera & mic that he sees.
RIX wrote:
Did you see the clip? I mentioned earlier that her visible lack of emotion, and even conviction, was stark.
@ MikeA:
I think an example should be made.
RIX wrote:
She’s a tough one. 30 years of marriage to me has prepared her for just about any adversity!
@ citizen_q:
An example is being made. That example is that terrorism works.
@ MacDuff:
.
No I didn’t see it, just a report of it.
Hillary claimed years ago to be an Alinskyite
& never backed away.
@ MacDuff:
See , us big strong menses serve a useful purpose.
@ Mike C.:
You could put an igniter and timer on the lithium battery pack, and drop them as incendiary bombs. But the smoke is toxic, so they’d probably run afoul of the Geneva Conventions.
Rodan wrote:
He does. The “North-American Energy Independence” thing struck me as fresh and doable and his response to the embassy attacks was spot-on…..which likely explains the hyperventilation of the media sycophants.
@ RIX:
She supports the Jihad.
Iron Fist wrote:
Gawd, ain’t it the truth!
@ eaglesoars:
This whole movie deal is fast becoming a mystery in its own right. Looks like “Sam Bacile” the director, is a non-person. An alias of person or persons unknown.
The whole thing could well be a false-flag operation, or the work of zealous but naive anti-islamists duped into it by muslims in order to create a casus belli.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Sam Bacile = Imbecile?
MacDuff wrote:
There, fixed that for ya!
@ citizen_q:
I tend to agree. Probably the job of selecting background slides for projection was given to some artsy-fartsy “diversity hire” who picked something that looked nice and dramatic. Bet you’ll find the image exists in one of the free stock images sites on the ‘net.
Iron Fist wrote:
And we will rollover, apologize to the muzz, and do their bidding and go after the muzzis object of rage du jour.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
The film isn’t casus belli . The assassination of our ambassador, OTOH, is. Islam is at war with us (and civilization more generally). It is that simple. I don’t expect even Romney to say, it that clearly, though. The American people don’t want to hear it.
New Thread.
@ citizen_q:
Sure looks like. Certainly Obama didn’t take a stand for American values, and neither did Clinton. Fuck how “deplorable” the movie is. The Muslim animals killed our ambassador! Full stop. We should be at war with Libya over this. There should be amazing consequences for all of those involved. We’re going to do nothing substantive about it.
Iron Fist wrote:
Therein lies the most important unspoken truth of the 21st Century; our fate is being controlled, primarily, by what we have chosen not to recognize.
Rodan wrote:
She doesn’t sound too much in opposition.
I just think that she likes anti Western stuff.
@ Iron Fist:
Yet another reason to vote that Effeminate Asshole OUT!
Ya know, I know guys that are afraid of their wives, bet
that you do too.
Well that’s not me! I am not afraid of their wives, I’m
afraid of my wife!
She is waiting for me to take her to lunch. See ya!
@ MikeA:
Bottled sunshine! Smells like victory.
@ Macker:
How can a non-existent person be an imbecile? They guy, whoever he is knew what he was doing. But there is no registered real estate agent by that name in the State of Californicate.
citizen_q wrote:
He is right, we do…
MikeA wrote:
Yup, exactly the amount of involvement we need.
@ Iron Fist:
Oh, I know that the film isn’t casus belli in the rational world that we inhabit. But we are talking muzz here. I could easily see some Egyptian-born muzz posing as a Coptic Christian to make this film, knowing that it could be used, when the time is right, as a catalyst for riots in muzzland everywhere.
@ Iron Fist:
Not to mention egypt. The place is a police state. Everyone seemed to know the attack was going to happen. Where were the police or army to protect our embassy?
Their absence is complicity.
citizen_q wrote:
That would be my take on this. Sheer ignorance and sloppiness. But even that is a lousy excuse. I mean, how hard is it for them to go to the Pentagon website for stock pictures?
WHERE’S RODAN?
You just can’t make this stuff up: