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Middle East insanity

by Speranza ( 166 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Egypt, Islamic Terrorism, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Libya, Muslim Brotherhood at September 21st, 2012 - 3:00 pm

Susan Rice and Jay Carney the other day were twisting themselves in knots trying to say with straight faces that what happened last week had to do with a movie trailer that nobody ever heard of. In my opinion,  Islam was what happened. Obama has acted confused and stunned – like a duck hit on its head and I dread what a second Obama term would be like  regarding foreign affairs..

by Victor Davis Hanson

Last week, Muslim mobs took to the streets to murder the American ambassador in Libya and three of his staffers. American embassies were attacked from Egypt to Yemen.

Embarrassed White House press secretary Jay Carney and U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice insisted that these assaults were just reactions to an insensitive video that disparaged Islam and was circulating on the Internet. As embassies burned, we were assured that there was no animosity directed at America in general, or at this administration and its foreign policy in particular.

That is hogwash. The weeks-old video was a mere pretext, in the manner of the Danish cartoons that Islamists used to stir up mobs in their war against the West. The street rioting was long ago synchronized across the Middle East to celebrate the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

[......]

President Obama chose not to support nearly a million Iranian dissidents in 2009. Two years later, he belatedly offered encouragement to the revolutionaries who overthrew Egyptian strongman Hosni Mubarak.

Who, exactly, were we “leading from behind” in Libya? Moammar Qaddafi was a monster, but also one in a sort of rehab who was seeking better relations with the West.

As for Syria, the Obama administration had called dictator Bashar Assad a reformer. Then he became a mass murderer who had to step down. Then we called in Kofi Annan and the U.N. to practice soft-power diplomacy. Then we threatened to intervene. Now we have backed off.

As a candidate and as president, Obama assumed that his own multicultural politics, his familiarity with Islam, his novel transracial personal story, and his repudiation of George W. Bush would all combine to win over the Middle East. Supposedly, Middle Eastern dislike of America had little to do with longstanding existential differences that did not start with Bush and won’t end with Obama.

Obama’s al Arabiya interview, Cairo speech, and loud reset diplomacy sent mixed messages. He gave the impression that Middle East anger was largely either America’s fault or due to misunderstandings that the sensitive Obama alone could mitigate — as he distanced himself from the supposed pathologies of prior American policy in the region.

That myth-making is now discredited. But it still makes it hard for the administration to admit that hatred in Egypt is deep-seated and irrational — and has very little to do with a silly video. Those in the Arab street hate the West and America because they are told daily that our supposed godlessness and decadence should not make us so rich and powerful — especially when such pious believers as themselves are so poor and impotent.

But rather than addressing the real causes of their present misery — tribalism, misogyny, statism, corruption, authoritarianism, fundamentalism, and religious intolerance — amid rich natural resources, Islamists scapegoat. Sometimes they fume at American support for Israel, at other times at an obscure video, cartoon, or rumor of a torched Koran.

[.......]

America looks even weaker when this administration sends confusing signals about U.S. power. The Obama administration too often spikes the ball — whether it is Joe Biden bragging about killing Osama bin Laden, the president joking about Predator assassination missions, Hillary Clinton high-fiving over the death of Qaddafi, or unnamed top officials disclosing classified secrets about the cyber-war against Iran.

Yet at other times, amid promised defense cuts, the Obama administration loudly announces a strategic pivot away from the Middle East toward Asia, or derides the very antiterrorism protocols — Guantanamo Bay, renditions, tribunals, and preventative detention — that it later embraced.

[.......]

What can we do?

Start developing vast new oil and gas finds on public lands here at home. Get our financial house in order. Quietly cut back aid to hostile Middle East governments. Put travel off-limits. Restrict visas and call home ambassadors — at least until Arab governments control their own street mobs.

Develop a consistent policy on the so-called Arab Spring that applies the same criticism of illiberal dictators to the theocrats who depose them. Keep quiet and keep our military strong. Don’t apologize for a few Americans who have a right to be crude. Instead, condemn those pre-modern zealots who would murder anyone of whom they don’t approve.

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  1. John Difool
    1 | September 21, 2012 3:19 pm

    A little curious as to why we haven’t heard from the NoI & the NBP over the Mo-Ham-Ed video 7 cartoon yet.

    Maybe it’s because they’re too busy coordinating with Eric Holder to keep white people away from the polls.


  2. Daffy Duck
    2 | September 21, 2012 3:19 pm

    As if on cue:

    IDF soldier killed, another wounded in clashes on Israel-Egypt border:

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-soldier-killed-another-wounded-in-clashes-on-israel-egypt-border-1.466126


  3. John Difool
    3 | September 21, 2012 3:23 pm

    @ Daffy Duck:

    Yesterday I read somewhere that the Egyptian military was on high alert because they expected a terrorist attack to take place somewhere in the Sinai against one of their outposts.

    Sounds like cya.


  4. Lily
    4 | September 21, 2012 3:26 pm

    @ John Difool:

    The loudest of all people are the ones saying nothing concerning what happened in Libya and our other Embassy’s last week.
    Says something in my opinion.
    /they are not in sync with obama concerning this and do not believe this is over a video that bascially has been out not weeks but months not to mention this all happened around 9/11 …. these were planned terrorist attacks and our president is saying he is sorry for Americans being so mean and ugly!!!
    /What is wrong with picture?..just about everything that can be said is wrong with it. I also assumed that an attack on one of our embassy’s is an act of war apparently not under obama, under him it is our fault they were attacked and people were murdered. He openly sides with the enemey and our media plays a fiddle!


  5. Daffy Duck
    5 | September 21, 2012 3:30 pm

    @ John Difool:

    I’m sure it is just a coincidence; Egypt has a peace treaty w/ Israel, ya know?

    /


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | September 21, 2012 3:33 pm

    The lead federal investigator into the Colombia prostitution scandal said for the first time Friday that White House personnel may have been involved — despite administration claims to the contrary.

    Charles Edwards, the acting inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security, wrote in a letter to Sen. Susan Collins that his office’s investigation into the April incident found “two non-(Secret Service) personnel may have had contact with foreign nationals.”

    just another straw for the camel’s back


  7. Lily
    7 | September 21, 2012 3:33 pm

    Another scandal brewing…how many scandals does this administration get to have???

    EXCLUSIVE: Federal investigator: White House personnel may have been involved in Colombia prostitution scandal

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/21/federal-investigator-white-house-personnel-may-have-been-involved-in-colombia/#ixzz278Oy03Sl


  8. NoThreat2U
    8 | September 21, 2012 3:33 pm

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120921/US.US.Iran.Opposition/

    AP sources: US to take Iran group off terror list


  9. Lily
    9 | September 21, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Yeah I say that who are these people? Hey {{NT2U}}!


  10. Lily
    10 | September 21, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    GMTA!!! ;)


  11. Lily
    11 | September 21, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Posted at the exact same time. ;)


  12. Lily
    12 | September 21, 2012 3:37 pm

    As far as Libya is concerned there are a lot of questions that need to be answered and obama doesn’t want that to happen. He helped these terrorists get into power and how many American weapons are in terrorists hands ….this is one giant clustfluck.


  13. John Difool
    13 | September 21, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Oh well, any group with “mujahadeen” in it’s name & dedicated to overthrowing the Iranian government can’t be all that bad. /


  14. Lily
    14 | September 21, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Okay they have that in their name and we don’t consider them terrorists anymore?? I obama thinks the only terrorists out there are the American people who disagree with him. Unfreaking believeable.


  15. NoThreat2U
    15 | September 21, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ Lily:
    Hi {{{Lily}}} :) How is your back?


  16. NoThreat2U
    16 | September 21, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ John Difool:
    *snort*


  17. Lily
    17 | September 21, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Not to mention how many damn straws will it take to break this camels back????? I can name at least a dozen shady deals and shady things this administration has been doing or done and yet the media buries them.


  18. Lily
    18 | September 21, 2012 3:51 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Better. No surgery…will make it only worse. These were old injuries that I rattled and flared up..so rest and off my feet until it settles down. Doc thinks I have osteoporsis of my back. So I go for a bone density test next week and then go from there.


  19. NoThreat2U
    19 | September 21, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ Lily:
    Well no surgery is a good thing. I hope they fix you up real quick!


  20. Speranza
    20 | September 21, 2012 3:54 pm

    Daffy Duck wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    I’m sure it is just a coincidence; Egypt has a peace treaty w/ Israel, ya know?
    /

    and the MB is committed to it. /


  21. lobo91
    21 | September 21, 2012 3:56 pm

    @ Lily:

    I can name at least a dozen shady deals and shady things this administration has been doing or done and yet the media buries them.

    “Shady”? Sounds like a racist term to me.

    //Report to reeducation camp tomorrow


  22. NoThreat2U
    22 | September 21, 2012 3:57 pm

    BBL


  23. 23 | September 21, 2012 3:58 pm

    @ Lily:

    I shudder to think if one of them was trying to hook up some gigolo with Slims….


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | September 21, 2012 4:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Not to mention how many damn straws will it take to break this camels back?????

    unknown….


  25. Lily
    25 | September 21, 2012 4:02 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Dammit! I have been at least 12 times…no worky for me…and yes I will not forgot my potato.


  26. lobo91
    26 | September 21, 2012 4:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Not to mention how many damn straws will it take to break this camels back?????

    unknown….

    They have a whole herd of camels to replace it.


  27. lobo91
    27 | September 21, 2012 4:04 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Dammit! I have been at least 12 times…no worky for me…and yes I will not forgot my potato.

    You may run into Kathleen Sebelius there. She has to be retrained on the Hatch Act.


  28. Lily
    28 | September 21, 2012 4:04 pm

    @ Macker:

    Heaven only knows..but something isn’t right here.


  29. Lily
    29 | September 21, 2012 4:07 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    No surgery is a good thing but can’t undo the damage already done…hopefully will be able to prevent more damage.


  30. lobo91
    30 | September 21, 2012 4:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Dammit! I have been at least 12 times…no worky for me…and yes I will not forgot my potato.

    Make sure you get your card punched.

    //Free potato after 12 visits


  31. Speranza
    31 | September 21, 2012 4:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:
    No surgery is a good thing but can’t undo the damage already done…hopefully will be able to prevent more damage.

    As we get past 50, things just start happening.


  32. Lily
    32 | September 21, 2012 4:09 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Dear heavens lets hope not!!!


  33. Lily
    33 | September 21, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ Speranza:

    No kidding! It’s a b*tch to be honest. I’m out of screaming pain and able to sleep…so it is settling down the pain..although yesterday my back reminded me it was still there! ;)


  34. Lily
    34 | September 21, 2012 4:12 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Dammit! I have been at least 12 times…no worky for me…and yes I will not forgot my potato.

    Make sure you get your card punched.

    //Free potato after 12 visits

    :lol:


  35. huckfunn
    35 | September 21, 2012 4:13 pm

    THIS JUST IN: Jihadi nut bags resort to new tactics.


  36. Lily
    36 | September 21, 2012 4:13 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Dammit! I have been at least 12 times…no worky for me…and yes I will not forgot my potato.

    You may run into Kathleen Sebelius there. She has to be retrained on the Hatch Act.

    I will not share my potato with her. She isn’t a good person.


  37. Lily
    37 | September 21, 2012 4:15 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    obama bomb them next? Hardly, although he does like to use the drone.
    /never know.


  38. lobo91
    38 | September 21, 2012 4:16 pm

    @ Lily:

    I will not share my potato with her. She isn’t a good person.

    She gets arugula.


  39. Lily
    39 | September 21, 2012 4:17 pm

    Not very bright and yes we do want change in Washington we want him out!

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/21/obama-seemingly-forgets-hes-president-we-want-change-in-washington/


  40. Lily
    40 | September 21, 2012 4:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I will not share my potato with her. She isn’t a good person.

    She gets arugula.

    Well good for her … potatoes are better! ;)


  41. lobo91
    41 | September 21, 2012 4:19 pm

    @ Lily:

    The other day, he said that “you can’t change Washington from the inside.”

    I guess that means he should leave, then…


  42. lobo91
    42 | September 21, 2012 4:20 pm

    Lily wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I will not share my potato with her. She isn’t a good person.

    She gets arugula.

    Well good for her … potatoes are better!

    I’m cooking rotisserie chicken and bacon-ranch pasta salad.

    //I’ll save you some


  43. Lily
    43 | September 21, 2012 4:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    The other day, he said that “you can’t change Washington from the inside.”

    I guess that means he should leave, then…

    That’s my take. He needs to leave..and he is campaging against himself….what numbnut.


  44. Lily
    44 | September 21, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Sounds good…thanks! ;)


  45. Lily
    45 | September 21, 2012 4:23 pm

    @ Lily:

    PIMF…what A numbnut.
    /darn keyboard.


  46. waldensianspirit
    46 | September 21, 2012 4:26 pm

    While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants. — Obama

    :roll:

    Did he not in the same sentence do just that? Denigrate? “the kind of senseless violence” the kind=islamic, it is violent and then Obama denigrates it as senseless.


  47. Lily
    47 | September 21, 2012 4:27 pm

    Slow day today.


  48. Guggi
    48 | September 21, 2012 4:29 pm

    @ Lily:

    Ahhh

    :-P


  49. Lily
    49 | September 21, 2012 4:30 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Yeah I agree with the author he is *newly* concerned about offending religions…he has been bashing Christian’s and Jew’s for a while. Now that Islam is all stirred up (as always and thanks to him for stirring it up more) he is now concerned.
    /hyporcite.


  50. lobo91
    50 | September 21, 2012 4:31 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Isn’t it a conflict of interest for Obama White House staffers to be hiring prostitutes?


  51. CynicalConservative
    51 | September 21, 2012 4:33 pm

    @ lobo91:
    They’re hiring themselves?

    /lurk


  52. Lily
    52 | September 21, 2012 4:33 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Oops you beat me to it!!!

    /yeah something is more wrong with this picture than what is being reported…they need to dig a bit deeper no telling what they will turn up. Good grief.


  53. yenta-fada
    53 | September 21, 2012 4:33 pm

    From formerspook, WH won’t release normal intel to Romney.

    As the nominee, Romney should receive classified briefings on U.S. intelligence, but administration officials said that hasn’t been arranged yet.

    “The intelligence community is working closely with the Romney campaign to finalize the logistics for the candidate briefings,” said Shawn Turner, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

    Incidentally, that information was buried deep in an Associated Press article that followed the media “theme of the day,” suggesting that Mr. Romney somehow misspoke on the Middle East, spoke too soon, or violated the old dictum that “politics ends at the water’s edge.”

    I’ll leave that debate to others, but it is rather curious that John Kerry repeatedly criticized George W. Bush’s handling of the Iraq War during the 2004 campaign, and even Barack Obama used the deaths of nine American soldiers to criticize President Bush and the 2008 GOP nominee, John McCain.

    Equally curious is the “logistics” argument that has supposedly prevented Mr. Romney from receiving intelligence updates. While details of these briefings have not been disclosed, they are believed similar to the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB), which is provided to the commander-in-chief.

    As a former command intelligence briefer, I’m wondering why it has become so difficult to get information to Mr. Obama’s Republican rival. In reality, the “logistics,” cited by Turner are rather simple. As noted in previous posts, the intelligence community has invested heavily in secure communications networks for the dissemination of Secret and Top Secret information. Data classified up to the Secret level can be posed on SIPRNET (Secret Internet Protocol Router Network), while TS/SCI material is hosted on the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS).


  54. Guggi
    54 | September 21, 2012 4:34 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Isn’t it a conflict of interest for Obama White House staffers to be hiring prostitutes?

    It can’t be a conflict b’cause what ever they (White House staffers) is correct :-( they never fail.


  55. Alberta Oil Peon
    55 | September 21, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Probably just trying to sign them up for the Service Employees International Union.


  56. Lily
    56 | September 21, 2012 4:35 pm

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    They’re hiring themselves?

    /lurk

    That’s one way of looking at it. How many scandals are there with this administration they must be hitting a record number.


  57. lobo91
    57 | September 21, 2012 4:35 pm

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    They’re hiring themselves?

    /lurk

    Maybe they got a professional discount


  58. lobo91
    58 | September 21, 2012 4:38 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Incidentally, that information was buried deep in an Associated Press article that followed the media “theme of the day,” suggesting that Mr. Romney somehow misspoke on the Middle East, spoke too soon, or violated the old dictum that “politics ends at the water’s edge.”

    “Politics ends at the water’s edge” means that they’re not supposed to criticize the president’s actions while he’s overseas.

    It doesn’t mean that foreign policy issues are out of bounds. That’s absurd.


  59. Lily
    59 | September 21, 2012 4:40 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The obama administration isn’t giving Romney the intell? They are most certainly hiding something. Another scandal brewing I’m sure.
    Why are they being so slow in giving Romney the intell????? This shouldn’t be buried anywhere this should be making headlines…and yet the media is burying it. I hope Romney hits him hard with this at just the right time.


  60. lobo91
    60 | September 21, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ Lily:

    The obama administration isn’t giving Romney the intell? They are most certainly hiding something.

    No, they’re trying to keep Romney from getting information, so they can try to make him look bad during the debates.


  61. Lily
    61 | September 21, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ lobo91:

    It doesn’t mean that foreign policy issues are out of bounds. That’s absurd.

    Excatly …the media is doing a bang up job at covering obama every which way. It is getting rather tiresome to honest…and getting me rather ticked. I want some answers from this dishonest rogue president.


  62. Lily
    62 | September 21, 2012 4:47 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    The obama administration isn’t giving Romney the intell? They are most certainly hiding something.

    No, they’re trying to keep Romney from getting information, so they can try to make him look bad during the debates.

    You don’t think it could be both? Because there is some really shady areas in his policies. Come on ….with this administration hiding information is standard operating procedure. You bring up a good point about the debates…but I don’t think they want Romney’s prying eyes on it either. They can’t even get their lies straight on the attacks in Libya and they are certainly hiding and covering up things concerning this.


  63. lobo91
    63 | September 21, 2012 4:50 pm

    @ Lily:

    They just won’t give him information that makes them look bad.

    It’s not like the administration wouldn’t control what’s released, in any case.


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | September 21, 2012 4:50 pm

    From CanadaFreePress:

    With the promise of re-establishing an Islamic Caliphate in the region known as the Greater Middle East, or the area from Morocco to Afghanistan, Obama inked a deal with the Muslim Brotherhood as a means to clear the path for a global system of governance. He brought in the Muslim Brotherhood to all areas of our government to collude with the globalists and communists already firmly rooted in our government and our media. The allegiance of both the secular globalists and Islamic fundamentalists working to re-establish a Caliphate promises them all a seat at the globalist table, yet they fail to understand that they are dining with scorpions.

    The Obama doctrine, it would appear, is one of orchestrated deconstruction of countries getting in the way of the reconstruction of the Islamic Caliphate. Once established, the Islamic Caliphate will usher in a repressive global religion complementary to the larger globalist agenda.


  65. lobo91
    65 | September 21, 2012 4:52 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The Obama doctrine, it would appear, is one of orchestrated deconstruction of countries getting in the way of the reconstruction of the Islamic Caliphate.

    Whether deliberate or not, that’s certainly been the effect.


  66. yenta-fada
    66 | September 21, 2012 4:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The obama administration isn’t giving Romney the intell? They are most certainly hiding something.
    No, they’re trying to keep Romney from getting information, so they can try to make him look bad during the debates.

    That’s sound reasoning. They don’t want him talking ‘out of turn’ ANYWHERE, even leading up to the debates and after, I’d bet. It would give him ammo.


  67. John Difool
    67 | September 21, 2012 4:53 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Incidentally, that information was buried deep in an Associated Press article that followed the media “theme of the day,” suggesting that Mr. Romney somehow misspoke on the Middle East, spoke too soon, or violated the old dictum that “politics ends at the water’s edge.”
    “Politics ends at the water’s edge” means that they’re not supposed to criticize the president’s actions while he’s overseas.
    It doesn’t mean that foreign policy issues are out of bounds. That’s absurd.

    Yes politics ends at the waters edge & also the other old dictum was that one side didn’t do any politicking while the other side was having it’s convention which the Dems had no problem at all doing.

    Screw ‘em, if the gloves are off let ‘em stay off & lets get bloody.


  68. yenta-fada
    68 | September 21, 2012 4:54 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    The Obama doctrine, it would appear, is one of orchestrated deconstruction of countries getting in the way of the reconstruction of the Islamic Caliphate.
    Whether deliberate or not, that’s certainly been the effect.

    IMHO, it has been a long time coming. The UN became a slow caliphate over the years. Obama just made it more open and obvious to anyone who doesn’t bury themselves in the MSM.


  69. yenta-fada
    69 | September 21, 2012 4:56 pm

    @ John Difool:

    I’m just a Canuck who sees a Congress that should be spanked for not even managing to bring in a budget. Surely that is basic for government to function, no?


  70. lobo91
    70 | September 21, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’m just a Canuck who sees a Congress that should be spanked

    Too many of them would enjoy it…


  71. lobo91
    71 | September 21, 2012 5:00 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Surely that is basic for government to function, no?

    It was when we were using our Constitution.

    These days…not so much. Hell, they’re just inventing money out of thin air.

    Who needs a budget?


  72. Lily
    72 | September 21, 2012 5:00 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    They just won’t give him information that makes them look bad.

    It’s not like the administration wouldn’t control what’s released, in any case.

    True. But I honestly don’t trust them. Do you? Of course they aren’t going to give him anything that would make him look bad…maybe they too busy re-dacting a lot of what they are going to give him. A sentence here or there and a lot of black space.


  73. yenta-fada
    73 | September 21, 2012 5:01 pm

    Did you guys notice this a few days back on prison labor in the U.S.?

    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19559908/american-prison-labor-means-longer-unemployment-lines


  74. yenta-fada
    74 | September 21, 2012 5:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m just a Canuck who sees a Congress that should be spanked
    Too many of them would enjoy it…

    It’s a perk!


  75. Alberta Oil Peon
    75 | September 21, 2012 5:03 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I am wondering how many new jail cells would be needed if every politician and Administration official who truly deserved it were to be tossed in the slammer.

    Maybe Romney could tout that as a new make-work project to stimulate the economy.

    //2 (that’s half-heartedly sarcastic)


  76. yenta-fada
    76 | September 21, 2012 5:03 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Surely that is basic for government to function, no?
    It was when we were using our Constitution.
    These days…not so much. Hell, they’re just inventing money out of thin air.
    Who needs a budget?

    The 99% everywhere, that’s who.


  77. Lily
    77 | September 21, 2012 5:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ John Difool:

    I’m just a Canuck who sees a Congress that should be spanked for not even managing to bring in a budget. Surely that is basic for government to function, no?

    It is obama that is really behind this because I do believe that Boehner did try to work with him but even when Boehner would give obama some inches he waited miles. obama is basically going around congress..now why is congress letting him do this is the better question.


  78. John Difool
    78 | September 21, 2012 5:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    I’m just a Canuck who sees a Congress that should be spanked for not even managing to bring in a budget. Surely that is basic for government to function, no?

    Because we have become Europe plain & simple. Any budget that would bring fiscal reform by cutting any entitlement or money to special interest groups is strictly off limits.

    I dare say the Republicans are just as guilty with the whole “compassionate conservative” crap under Bush.


  79. lobo91
    79 | September 21, 2012 5:04 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Did you guys notice this a few days back on prison labor in the U.S.?

    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19559908/american-prison-labor-means-longer-unemployment-lines

    I did.

    My question is, how do they manage to have a higher per unit cost than a private company?

    Only our federal government could manage that…


  80. yenta-fada
    80 | September 21, 2012 5:05 pm

    Has this Aussie burkha challenge been posted?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WQeZ2EtEPk&feature=player_embedded


  81. yenta-fada
    81 | September 21, 2012 5:06 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Did you guys notice this a few days back on prison labor in the U.S.?
    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19559908/american-prison-labor-means-longer-unemployment-lines
    I did.
    My question is, how do they manage to have a higher per unit cost than a private company?
    Only our federal government could manage that…

    I think a lot of governments could manage that. lol


  82. John Difool
    82 | September 21, 2012 5:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Did you guys notice this a few days back on prison labor in the U.S.?
    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19559908/american-prison-labor-means-longer-unemployment-lines

    I did.
    My question is, how do they manage to have a higher per unit cost than a private company?
    Only our federal government could manage that…

    You mean like $9 cheeseburgers in an Amtrak dining car that cost the fed $16 ?


  83. lobo91
    83 | September 21, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ John Difool:

    You mean like $9 cheeseburgers in an Amtrak dining car that cost the fed $16 ?

    At least that’s caused by the usual reason: Labor costs that are too high.

    The prisoners making those uniforms are getting paid less than $1 an hour.


  84. Lily
    84 | September 21, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Jindal is catching hell for shutting down a low to medium prison that basically employs a small town …just out of nowhere he is deciding to close it and send most of the inmates to Angloa. Angloa is our Maxium Sercuity Prison and normally you don’t ever leave there if you are sent there. I question Jindal doing this. Big time. Not only that they are shutting it down very quickly and the people who have money due to them will not get it because they are using the Right to Work act here as an excuse and basically these people who have worked over time will not get the money due to them. I don’t know what Jindal is thinking in doing this.


  85. coldwarrior
    85 | September 21, 2012 5:11 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    I dare say the Republicans are just as guilty with the whole “compassionate conservative” crap under Bush.

    yep. guilty.

    now we have 47% who don’t have a tax liability while the rest pay everyone’s way.


  86. yenta-fada
    86 | September 21, 2012 5:11 pm

    Over in Australia, they’re blaming Republicans for America’s problems.

    “Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan has delivered a speech labelling some elements of the United States Republican party as “cranks and crazies”.

    Mr Swan’s speech at the Financial Services Council breakfast in Sydney comes less than two months before the US election.

    His speech referred to political gridlock over spending cuts and tax increases due to kick in early next year, which could tip the US economy back into recession.

    “Let’s be blunt, the biggest threat to the world’s biggest economy are the cranks and crazies that have taken over parts of the Republican Party,” he said.

    “Despite (US president Barack) Obama’s goodwill … the national interest was held hostage by the rise of the extreme right Tea-Party wing of the Republicans.

    “There can be few things more alarming in public policy than a political group which was genuinely prepared to see the government of the United States default on its obligations in order to score a political point.”

    Mr Swan says global markets are nervously watching hardline elements of the Republicans for signs they will block reasonable attempts to support growth.

    “The congressional budget office estimates that currently legislated spending cuts and tax increases amount to a fiscal consolidation worth around 5.1 per cent of GDP in the 2013 calendar year,” he said.

    “If that occurred, that would tip the US economy back into recession.

    “With the world watching, it is imperative that the US congress resolve an agreement to support growth in the short term.”


  87. Alberta Oil Peon
    87 | September 21, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Sounds like a tempest in a teacup to me. Depends upon whose ox is being gored, I guess. (crank, crank, hmmmm, the cliche machine is empty)

    Prisoners should have work to do. At least they should be given an opportunity to work in order to earn improvements in their behind-bars living conditions. You can’t force them to work; that would be slavery, but if they are content to lie on their pallet on the floor, next to the sewer hole, and eat cold Purina Con Chow, far be it from me to say they may not.

    If they want 3 hots and a cot, and maybe TV or some other entertainment, let them work for it. But prisoner labor should not compete unduly with private business. It’s all about balance.


  88. Lily
    88 | September 21, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Good grief the propaganda has gotten to the Aussies. Republican’s are the world’s greatest threat…yeah right.


  89. yenta-fada
    89 | September 21, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    “Tip the U.S. economy into recession”. There’s a guy who has cranial rectal inversion syndrome. The propaganda is extremely global and ON MESSAGE for lying liars.


  90. coldwarrior
    90 | September 21, 2012 5:15 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    dude is a seriously lefty.

    he in no way represents the aussie political body.


  91. Lily
    91 | September 21, 2012 5:15 pm

    @ Lily:

    PIMF LOW TO MEDIUM SECURITY PRISON


  92. John Difool
    92 | September 21, 2012 5:15 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Amazing Mr. Swan can see crazy U.S. Republicans from the other side of the planet but can’t see muzzies in Sydney calling for beheading of infidels standing in his own back yard.


  93. yenta-fada
    93 | September 21, 2012 5:15 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Good grief the propaganda has gotten to the Aussies. Republican’s are the world’s greatest threat…yeah right.

    Same in our newspapers here, except for The National Post. Must be da Jooooz? //


  94. lobo91
    94 | September 21, 2012 5:15 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    dude is a seriously lefty.

    he in no way represents the aussie political body.

    Or even logic


  95. lobo91
    95 | September 21, 2012 5:16 pm

    I’d really like to know when “borrowing more money we can’t repay” became equivalent to “paying our bills.”


  96. yenta-fada
    96 | September 21, 2012 5:16 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Amazing Mr. Swan can see crazy U.S. Republicans from the other side of the planet but can’t see muzzies in Sydney calling for beheading of infidels standing in his own back yard.

    Gee, why don’t we ever hear the term “Muslim Lobby”? It’s all the rage. /


  97. Lily
    97 | September 21, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The world is upside down for some reason. Every so often in history we have a crazy period. I think we are in that right now.


  98. yenta-fada
    98 | September 21, 2012 5:18 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    dude is a seriously lefty.
    he in no way represents the aussie political body.

    Buzz should write a song about “Agenda 21″ I certainly recognize the refrain.


  99. Alberta Oil Peon
    99 | September 21, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Doesn’t surprise me. I expect their QC reject rate is huge, which is to be expected when the workers aren’t well-motivated.

    Does it make sense to be “training” prisoners to work in trades where there is next to zero chance of work on the outside, once they are released? Aren’t the needle trades pretty much dying on the vine as a domestic industry?

    But maybe the most important training is simply “show up, put in your day without bitching too much, and get used to the fact that this is how you have to live on the outside, too, if you don’t want to wind up back in here.”


  100. lobo91
    100 | September 21, 2012 5:19 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Gee, why don’t we ever hear the term “Muslim Lobby”? It’s all the rage. /

    The Muslims burned down their lobby


  101. yenta-fada
    101 | September 21, 2012 5:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’d really like to know when “borrowing more money we can’t repay” became equivalent to “paying our bills.”

    Greenspan/Rubin/Clinton administration IMHO.


  102. Lily
    102 | September 21, 2012 5:21 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Sounds like a tempest in a teacup to me. Depends upon whose ox is being gored, I guess. (crank, crank, hmmmm, the cliche machine is empty)

    Prisoners should have work to do. At least they should be given an opportunity to work in order to earn improvements in their behind-bars living conditions. You can’t force them to work; that would be slavery, but if they are content to lie on their pallet on the floor, next to the sewer hole, and eat cold Purina Con Chow, far be it from me to say they may not.

    If they want 3 hots and a cot, and maybe TV or some other entertainment, let them work for it. But prisoner labor should not compete unduly with private business. It’s all about balance.

    What should happen is prisoners work to keep the prison going. Like growing their own food and what not and keeping the ground and such up which is what some prisons do. Not compete with business’s. Idle hands are the devil’s tools.


  103. coldwarrior
    103 | September 21, 2012 5:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’d really like to know when “borrowing more money we can’t repay” became equivalent to “paying our bills.”

    when economics became no longer a required course both in high school and college.


  104. lobo91
    104 | September 21, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    Does it make sense to be “training” prisoners to work in trades where there is next to zero chance of work on the outside, once they are released?

    Federal job training programs almost never train people for jobs that actually exist. The only people who benefit from them are the ones running them (and those who get kickbacks, like Obama’s friends in Chicago).

    No reason prison ones would work any better.


  105. Lily
    105 | September 21, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    In some prisons (low to medium) they are getting their GED’s and working on trades to help them not get back in the system.


  106. yenta-fada
    106 | September 21, 2012 5:25 pm

    @ Lily:

    That thing about Jindal shutting down a small prison is odd. Maybe it is part of the ‘super prison’ idea to close all other facilities. I dunno.


  107. Lily
    107 | September 21, 2012 5:25 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Some do better than others depends on the state and depends on the prison I wouldn’t broad brush paint it though as all don’t work out well.


  108. lobo91
    108 | September 21, 2012 5:25 pm

    @ Lily:

    Prisons in NM offer college courses.


  109. lobo91
    109 | September 21, 2012 5:27 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Some do better than others depends on the state and depends on the prison I wouldn’t broad brush paint it though as all don’t work out well.

    We’re talking about federal prisons, not state ones.


  110. Lily
    110 | September 21, 2012 5:27 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:

    That thing about Jindal shutting down a small prison is odd. Maybe it is part of the ‘super prison’ idea to close all other facilities. I dunno.

    It isn’t good … he is putting a lot of people out of work and prison in the dust bin that has been successful in actually maintaining itself. Jindal is catching a whole lot of heat from it. Already our prisons are over-flowing. This is a prison that is actually working and it just came out of nowhere ….


  111. Lily
    111 | September 21, 2012 5:28 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I stand corrected then. ;)


  112. yenta-fada
    112 | September 21, 2012 5:29 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    I’d really like to know when “borrowing more money we can’t repay” became equivalent to “paying our bills.”
    when economics became no longer a required course both in high school and college.

    My niece had “Consumer Studies” that she had to take in high school. The earlier generations just balanced their checkbooks, and didn’t go to Cancun for Christmas or buy the multitude of expensive goods that are available now. That was what rich people did. So you have people acting rich. I think you nailed it.


  113. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | September 21, 2012 5:30 pm

    Obama is sucking Ayatollah Khameini’s cock, and Ahmedinejad’s, so hard that they both are in danger of dehydration.


  114. yenta-fada
    114 | September 21, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ Lily:

    Hey, is hitting keys on a computer “idle hands”? Just checking to see if I’m being evil.


  115. John Difool
    115 | September 21, 2012 5:31 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Obama is sucking Ayatollah Khameini’s cock, and Ahmedinejad’s, so hard that they both are in danger of dehydration.

    Rumor has it he can suck start Marine One.


  116. Lily
    116 | September 21, 2012 5:32 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    There is no “super prison” in the works that I know of. In fact there no reason given for shutting it down. I thought possibly the state was out of money …. nope read in the paper we have a surplus. So this is going to bascially destroy a town and put people out of work and send prisoners to Angola (spelled right this time..darn it) that don’t belong in Angola.


  117. yenta-fada
    117 | September 21, 2012 5:33 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Obama is sucking Ayatollah Khameini’s cock, and Ahmedinejad’s, so hard that they both are in danger of dehydration.

    That certainly clears out the ‘dead wood’. Concise too. :-)


  118. Lily
    118 | September 21, 2012 5:33 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Hey, is hitting keys on a computer “idle hands”? Just checking to see if I’m being evil.

    :lol: No your hands aren’t idle..you reading and researching and such!
    I could say the same about me too here. :oops:


  119. 119 | September 21, 2012 5:33 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Idle hands are the devil’s tools.

    Mo’s, too.


  120. NoThreat2U
    120 | September 21, 2012 5:33 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    8O


  121. yenta-fada
    121 | September 21, 2012 5:35 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Ha! You de-cloaked. :-)


  122. Lily
    122 | September 21, 2012 5:36 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’d really like to know when “borrowing more money we can’t repay” became equivalent to “paying our bills.”

    when economics became no longer a required course both in high school and college.

    Yeah big mistake. It was required when I was in school. Business math too.


  123. Lily
    123 | September 21, 2012 5:39 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Hey, is hitting keys on a computer “idle hands”? Just checking to see if I’m being evil.

    No not evil…heaven forbide… I was talking about prisoners. ;)


  124. NoThreat2U
    124 | September 21, 2012 5:39 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yeah. Just sitting here reading along. Just saw over at Zip’s Harry Reid is freaking out about Romney and his tax returns. Harry sez “He’s hiding something!!! It’s so obvious he’s hiding something!!!” Geesh. Better get back to fixing the kitchen sink. Fun times for me. lol


  125. lobo91
    125 | September 21, 2012 5:40 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yeah. Just sitting here reading along. Just saw over at Zip’s Harry Reid is freaking out about Romney and his tax returns. Harry sez “He’s hiding something!!! It’s so obvious he’s hiding something!!!” Geesh. Better get back to fixing the kitchen sink. Fun times for me. lol

    Has anyone asked when he’s going to release his tax returns?

    I have a reliable source who says that Reid is a crook.


  126. Lily
    126 | September 21, 2012 5:41 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    So Reid gets what he wants Romney’s tax returns and now he somehow *knows* he is hiding something? Sounds like projection to me. What about the intell the obama administration is suppose to be giving Romney can we say obama is *hiding* something too…oh what about the college papers that were never exposed is obama *hiding* something?


  127. John Difool
    127 | September 21, 2012 5:41 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yeah. Just sitting here reading along. Just saw over at Zip’s Harry Reid is freaking out about Romney and his tax returns. Harry sez “He’s hiding something!!! It’s so obvious he’s hiding something!!!” Geesh. Better get back to fixing the kitchen sink. Fun times for me. lol

    He also went on to say “How dare Romney come to MY state ! ”

    At this point I can see Reid going assassin on Romney, he should double-up on security.


  128. yenta-fada
    128 | September 21, 2012 5:42 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    If I were a witch, I’d turn Harry Reid into a garden gnome. Shouldn’t be that hard. I’d start with AchmedImmanutjob first though.


  129. yenta-fada
    129 | September 21, 2012 5:43 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Your source is Leia, isn’t it?


  130. lobo91
    130 | September 21, 2012 5:43 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:

    If I were a witch, I’d turn Harry Reid into a garden gnome. Shouldn’t be that hard. I’d start with AchmedImmanutjob first though.

    Turn him into a fire hydrant


  131. lobo91
    131 | September 21, 2012 5:44 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Your source is Leia, isn’t it?

    She’s well-connected in the pet world.


  132. Lily
    132 | September 21, 2012 5:45 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Before you do that you make it where Reid couldn’t tell a lie first so he could expose all the corruption then go with the garden gnome.
    /might as well get a little intell first before you regulate him to the garden. ;)


  133. lobo91
    133 | September 21, 2012 5:45 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:

    So Reid gets what he wants Romney’s tax returns and now he somehow *knows* he is hiding something? Sounds like projection to me. What about the intell the obama administration is suppose to be giving Romney can we say obama is *hiding* something too…oh what about the college papers that were never exposed is obama *hiding* something?

    Well now you’re using logic.

    //Raaaaacist!


  134. yenta-fada
    134 | September 21, 2012 5:45 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    You guys should watch my #80. It’s short and pretty funny.


  135. Lily
    135 | September 21, 2012 5:46 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yeah. Just sitting here reading along. Just saw over at Zip’s Harry Reid is freaking out about Romney and his tax returns. Harry sez “He’s hiding something!!! It’s so obvious he’s hiding something!!!” Geesh. Better get back to fixing the kitchen sink. Fun times for me. lol

    He also went on to say “How dare Romney come to MY state ! ”

    At this point I can see Reid going assassin on Romney, he should double-up on security.

    Isn’t Romney an American???? Good grief!!!! He doesn’t own that damn state and I hope that pisses the people off that Reid thinks he *owns* their state.


  136. John Difool
    136 | September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ Lily:

    I take it from now on Reid will be staying out of Utah, Michigan & Massachusetts ?


  137. Lily
    137 | September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Well I might not be the most political astute person on this board. But logic sure helps me see through the bullsh*t that this administration is putting out and all those who support this administration. ;)


  138. lobo91
    138 | September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ Lily:

    Isn’t Romney an American???? Good grief!!!! He doesn’t own that damn state and I hope that pisses the people off that Reid thinks he *owns* their state.

    Remember “Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat”?

    Or “Government is the only thing we all belong to”?


  139. lobo91
    139 | September 21, 2012 5:51 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Well I might not be the most political astute person on this board. But logic sure helps me see through the bullsh*t that this administration is putting out and all those who support this administration.

    Logic is now racist


  140. Lily
    140 | September 21, 2012 5:51 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I take it from now on Reid will be staying out of Utah, Michigan & Massachusetts ?

    Well how dare he go to someone *elses* state…heaven forbide!!!


  141. Lily
    141 | September 21, 2012 5:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Isn’t Romney an American???? Good grief!!!! He doesn’t own that damn state and I hope that pisses the people off that Reid thinks he *owns* their state.

    Remember “Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat”?

    Or “Government is the only thing we all belong to”?

    Yeah …I can’t get behind Government is the only thing we all belong to…nope not at all.


  142. John Difool
    142 | September 21, 2012 5:55 pm

    Ann Romney’s plane was forced to land in Colorado after smok filled the cabin.

    Wonder if Reid fired a Stinger missile at it after it breached Nevada airspace ?

    Seriously, I’ll spare you guys the blow-by-blow details of all the libtards on Twitter right now wishing that her plane would have crashed.


  143. Lily
    143 | September 21, 2012 5:55 pm

    @ lobo91:

    It seems to be everything is racist now days. Everything. I’m tired of the word, I’m tired of it being used. I’m simply tired of all the lying propaganda crap too. I hope a lot of people in our country feel the same way.


  144. Lily
    144 | September 21, 2012 5:57 pm

    @ John Difool:

    That is just evil. I don’t wish or hope for someone I don’t like in office to die in a plane crash or die at all….just vote them out or hey if they dislike this country so bad please leave.
    /liberals are so nice aren’t they/not.


  145. yenta-fada
    145 | September 21, 2012 5:59 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Ann Romney’s plane was forced to land in Colorado after smok filled the cabin.
    Wonder if Reid fired a Stinger missile at it after it breached Nevada airspace ?
    Seriously, I’ll spare you guys the blow-by-blow details of all the libtards on Twitter right now wishing that her plane would have crashed.

    That’s just sick. Next they’ll be setting fire to the Chinese embassy. Those people are a mob waiting to happen.
    Later, I have to go chain myself to the kitchen.


  146. Alberta Oil Peon
    146 | September 21, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Well, he is a Democrat.
    (signed)Department of Redundancy Department


  147. NoThreat2U
    147 | September 21, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The same rules and standards don’t apply when there is a (D) behind your name.
    @ Lily:
    The “intel” thing bothers me too. You know how the outgoing president tells the incoming president what they have been up to and such? I bet Obama would leave Romney swinging in the wind.


  148. lobo91
    148 | September 21, 2012 6:02 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Well, he is a Democrat.
    (signed)Department of Redundancy Department

    Harry Reid seriously is a crook.

    He’s a former mob lawyer, and was on the Nevada gaming commission.

    And he’s made millions off of shady land deals since he’s been in the Senate.


  149. Alberta Oil Peon
    149 | September 21, 2012 6:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:
    If I were a witch, I’d turn Harry Reid into a garden gnome. Shouldn’t be that hard. I’d start with AchmedImmanutjob first though.

    Turn AchmedImmanutjob into a garden gnome? Heck, all you’d have to do to accomplish that would be to embalm him.


  150. lobo91
    150 | September 21, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    The “intel” thing bothers me too. You know how the outgoing president tells the incoming president what they have been up to and such? I bet Obama would leave Romney swinging in the wind.

    Obama probably won’t even show up for the inauguration.

    He’ll just leave a Post-It note or two in the Oval Office.

    And some month-old leftovers in the refrigerator.


  151. John Difool
    151 | September 21, 2012 6:06 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    That is just evil. I don’t wish or hope for someone I don’t like in office to die in a plane crash or die at all….just vote them out or hey if they dislike this country so bad please leave.
    /liberals are so nice aren’t they/not.

    Too bad they don’t exhibit the same amount of hate & vitriol for our real enemies.


  152. Alberta Oil Peon
    152 | September 21, 2012 6:06 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I’m sure you are right, Lobo. Hell of it is, finding a Democrat who does have a sterling character is a task that would make Diogenes weep with frustration.


  153. RIX
    153 | September 21, 2012 6:09 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Has anyone asked when he’s going to release his tax returns?

    I have a reliable source who says that Reid is a crook.

    Reid spent his entire career in government, except for two
    years in private practice.
    Yet he is a wealthy man & claims “I invested well”
    He apparently has been involved in all kinds of
    crooked real estate deals.


  154. NoThreat2U
    154 | September 21, 2012 6:09 pm

    @ lobo91:
    True! hahahahaha


  155. lobo91
    155 | September 21, 2012 6:10 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I’m sure you are right, Lobo. Hell of it is, finding a Democrat who does have a sterling character is a task that would make Diogenes weep with frustration.

    You’d think that the first question a serious reporter would have asked after Reid made his unfounded claims about Romney’s tax returns is “Can we see yours?”

    Of course, that will never happen.


  156. lobo91
    156 | September 21, 2012 6:11 pm

    @ RIX:

    He apparently has been involved in all kinds of
    crooked real estate deals.

    He and many others in Congress, of both parties.

    They really need to change the ethics rules so that they can’t profit off of inside information.


  157. RIX
    157 | September 21, 2012 6:16 pm

    @ lobo91:

    He and many others in Congress, of both parties.

    They really need to change the ethics rules so that they can’t profit off of inside information

    .

    I thought that they intended to make that a violation.
    That was a while ago, so it probably just went away.


  158. Lily
    158 | September 21, 2012 6:18 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    You can bet on it and no telling how much of our intell has gotten into the wrong hands because of obama.


  159. NoThreat2U
    159 | September 21, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ Lily:
    He will clam up because he would be incriminating himself.


  160. Lily
    160 | September 21, 2012 6:23 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Yep. obama has lived up to what I thought he would be … a chicago thug.


  161. NoThreat2U
    161 | September 21, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ Lily:
    Understatement of the Year.


  162. lobo91
    162 | September 21, 2012 6:26 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    He and many others in Congress, of both parties.

    They really need to change the ethics rules so that they can’t profit off of inside information

    I thought that they intended to make that a violation.
    That was a while ago, so it probably just went away.

    Here’s an excellent book on the subject.

    Just came out in paperback.


  163. Buckeye Abroad
    163 | September 21, 2012 6:47 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Over in Australia, they’re blaming Republicans for America’s problems.

    That has been SOP here in Europe for decades. I had a spat last month one when of the german management team started bad mouthing “Repulicans, Fox News (which you don’t get in Germany), etc…” regarding the American problems. Obama is a god to him. I outed myself and said in front of his team everything you said is not true and based on lies. He flipped. Got heated. People started to walk away.

    The stupidity runs thick over here.


  164. Buckeye Abroad
    164 | September 21, 2012 7:02 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I’m sure you are right, Lobo. Hell of it is, finding a Democrat who does have a sterling character is a task that would make Diogenes weep with frustration.

    Well said.


  165. 165 | September 22, 2012 12:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’m just a Canuck who sees a Congress that should be spanked
    Too many of them would enjoy it…

    If they (and their staffs) weren’t getting their own paychecks until a budget was passed, then they’d work on it night and day until we had a budget.


  166. Prebanned
    166 | September 22, 2012 3:03 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ John Difool:
    That is just evil. I don’t wish or hope for someone I don’t like in office to die in a plane crash or die at all….just vote them out or hey if they dislike this country so bad please leave.
    /liberals are so nice aren’t they/not.
    Too bad they don’t exhibit the same amount of hate & vitriol for our real enemies.

    I thought they were our real enemies?
    The enemy of thier enemy is thier friend.


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