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Pre Debate Predictions, Or Just Plain Historical Perspective Extrapolated

by Flyovercountry ( 83 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Politics at October 2nd, 2012 - 12:00 pm

The questions will be so insanely stupid, that all sentient Americans watching will be scratching their collective heads. If this were my debate drinking game posting, I’d have you take a drink for all questions posed which would make you believe the moderator had an IQ lower than the percent chance that Lindsey Lohan will go one full year without performing some court ordered community service. That’s mean of me, I know, better call in sick for Thursday now. This prediction is not bold however. Every four years, there are four evenings in October in which I end up throwing things at the telly, wondering how the talking heads managed to graduate high school, and then I realize suddenly, the state of our public education system.

The questions will start and end with a premise that basically says the more conservative candidate is anywhere from amusingly foolish to a down right evil radical who belongs in one of Joseph Stalin’s gulags. Look for something like this, “Governor Romney, given the irrefutable evidence that global warming is a reality and that the debate has been declared over by such great scientific minds as Al Gore and Ban Ki Moon, how could you possibly continue to hold your obviously mindless position that economic considerations be given any thought at all when compared with the impending doom of bazillions of innocent lives?”

During the debate, watch for questions from the audience, which look suspiciously like Democrat Party Plants, even though we will be given every assurance that they were all previously screened and certified to be, “uncommitted voters.” In years past we have all heard the pointed questions proffered up with an accusatory tone by that, “randomly selected,” individual, for instance asking George H.W. Bush in 1992 how exactly he was affected by the recession. A recession by the way that stands as the softest experienced since the Depression of the 1930′s. As it turns out, that particular woman was not an uncommitted voter as advertised, but a Clinton campaign staff worker who was planted in the audience with the foreknowledge of the CBS team moderating the debate. Thanks to Al Gore’s internet, these fraudsters are easier to identify in a much quicker manner.

After the debate, look for every person appearing on television to claim victory for the candidate that they personally are there to speak for. Look also for focus groups galore to declare that the candidate that matches the bias of which ever network they appear on to have won handily. (This means that Fox will declare Romney the winner, and everyone else will call it for the Bamster.) In as much as the talking heads will identify for us the clear winners and losers, as if we were incapable of determining that for ourselves, history will have its final say which will bear no resemblance at all to the banal analysis spoon fed to us on debate night.

Here is the new meme of how Bush 43 actually won in 2000, despite the fact that the talking heads at the time told us that Al Gore clearly won every single debate.

By the way, George W. Bush defeated Al Gore because Americans found that his policy positions reflected by and large their core principles closer than Al Gore’s did. He won those debates due to his ability to articulate those positions more concisely than Al Gore, and in a language spoken by Americans at large.

Question: What do Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, and John Kerry all have in common. They were unanimously declared to be debate winners, and all given the inside advantage to win the Presidency by the talking heads lending us their expert analysis on the network news shows.

look for dishonesty emanating from every exhalation of Barack Obama that he sends past his vocal cords. He will tell us that 4 Million private sector jobs have been created on his watch, that the free market system’s failure was the primary cause of the current economic mess, that his health care bill will help solve our budget problems, that increasing tax rates will help pay down the national debt, that his budget proposal will save $4 Trillion, and then he’ll be warmed up. Watch for Mitt Romney to pounce on those obvious fibs, hopefully with the same brutal force that he showed Newt Gingrich.

Expect a disproportionate number of questions focusing on supposed women’s issues. This is a major Obama campaign theme, and the economy, falling GDP, national debt, deficit, and all else will take a back seat to making Mitt Romney seem like the evil Bond Villain too cheap to kick in a ten spot monthly in order to enable Sandra Fluke her consequence free lifestyle.

Note to Mitt Romney: Just state that you wish Sandra Fluke the very best of health in what ever she wishes her lifestyle to be, just don’t expect all of America to pay for the fun that she should be providing for herself. In that regard, I personally agree with that Clinton brain child, don’t ask, don’t tell.

On the one hand, the debates are important in that this will be the first time that the challenger is seen on the same stage and venue as the incumbent President. America will see for the first time, if they have never actually heard Mitt Romney speak whether or not his views on a plethora of issues are as far out there as the Twilight Zone as they have been told. By and large, those who are already decided on a candidate will not be swayed, no matter what happens. If there are any Americans who have still not made up their minds, they will either have their preconceptions of Mitt Romney confirmed or disproven on Wednesday evening. That, beyond any of the positions taken by the candidates will determine who wins and who loses.

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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83 Responses to “Pre Debate Predictions, Or Just Plain Historical Perspective Extrapolated”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | October 2, 2012 12:11 pm

    Gore did not even win his home state of Tennessee (the state with the neo-Nazi flag).


  2. Speranza
    2 | October 2, 2012 12:11 pm

    Romney better not start praising Obama as McCain did.


  3. Speranza
    3 | October 2, 2012 12:12 pm

    Obama can trip on his d*** and the media will still claim that he won.


  4. Speranza
    4 | October 2, 2012 12:25 pm

    Btw Flyovercountry nice work on this thread. You put a lot of effort into it.


  5. Speranza
    5 | October 2, 2012 12:29 pm

    Via Powerline

    The Upcoming debate -- No more Mr. Nice Guy

    But here’s what Romney can accomplish through a debate. He can persuade undecided middle class voters that President Obama’s policies are largely to blame for their woes and that Romney’s policies will serve them better. In other words, he can win the argument. As Margaret Thatcher famously said, “First you win the argument, then you win the vote.”

    Romney can win the argument and still be civil towards Obama. But he won’t win the argument if he’s burdened by concerns about likeability.


  6. 6 | October 2, 2012 12:33 pm

    @ Speranza:
    If Obama trips on his dick, the MFM will go on about how well endowed he is. You can take that to the bank. We already know the media will talk about Obama’s brilliance and Romney ‘s failure no matter what actually happens tomorrow night. It’d be nice if there were real reporting on the debate. There will be here and on other blogs, but Obama owns the heavily mortgaged soul of the MFM.


  7. song_and_dance_man
    7 | October 2, 2012 12:38 pm

    I submit these as DRINK buzz words.

    inherited

    predecessor

    fix

    mess


  8. 8 | October 2, 2012 12:45 pm

    @ Speranza:
    @ Iron Fist:

    The entire point is that it matters not whom the press declares to be the winner and loser. They will, as they always have been to date, be proven wrong in another 4,8, or 12 years time.

    As soon as Romney walks on the stage and does not sacrifice a small child to the God of unfriendly corporate take overs, he will have won more voters over than Barack Obama. That is how winning and losing in these beauty pageants is truly measured, which by the way, no degree of in depth analysis, no matter how banal, is capable of determining until after November 7th of this year.


  9. 9 | October 2, 2012 12:53 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    Yeah, I expect that it will remain close through election day. I just hope Romney pulls it off. Four years of additional Obama is cruel and unusual …


  10. RIX
    10 | October 2, 2012 1:09 pm

    I think that Romney should lay out the details of
    the sleazy land deal that Obama and convicted felon
    Tony Rezko did.
    Whatever question he is asked Romney should say,
    “First I want to explain the Presidents land deal.”
    People will not like it when they understand.


  11. citizen_q
    11 | October 2, 2012 1:14 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I submit these as DRINK buzz words.
    inherited
    predecessor
    fix
    mess

    Folks

    fair share


  12. Speranza
    12 | October 2, 2012 1:17 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    If Obama trips on his dick, the MFM will go on about how well endowed he is. You can take that to the bank. We already know the media will talk about Obama’s brilliance and Romney ‘s failure no matter what actually happens tomorrow night. It’d be nice if there were real reporting on the debate. There will be here and on other blogs, but Obama owns the heavily mortgaged soul of the MFM.

    Well we all can watch it and people will see Obama hopefully doing his “umm, uhhh, duh” routine when Romeny hits his record.


  13. 13 | October 2, 2012 1:18 pm

    @ RIX:

    We need a troll-hammer -- all the things Obama has done or failed to do in one little handy dandy -- there is just so much it’s hard to keep it all straight.

    Frikken-fracken-asshole.


  14. Speranza
    14 | October 2, 2012 1:19 pm

    Since Bill Clinton did not refer to his challenger as “President Bush”, but as “Mr. Bush,” Romney should call Obama, “Mr. Obama”.


  15. waldensianspirit
    15 | October 2, 2012 1:23 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Obama can trip on his d*** and the media will still claim that he won.

    They wouldn’t be celebrating his lifestyle any other way


  16. 16 | October 2, 2012 1:24 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Here are my suggestions as to how this petty little man child President should be referred.

    Bamster
    President Zero
    Little Barry O.
    B. Hussein Obama
    Bozo the President
    Ass Hat
    President Ass Hat
    You Stuttering Cluster F%$K of a Miserable Failure
    or
    Mr. Choom gang smoker.


  17. waldensianspirit
    17 | October 2, 2012 1:26 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Here are my suggestions as to how this petty little man child President should be referred.
    Bamster
    President Zero
    Little Barry O.
    B. Hussein Obama
    Bozo the President
    Ass Hat
    President Ass Hat
    You Stuttering Cluster F%$K of a Miserable Failure
    or
    Choom gang smoker.

    Imagine looking in the mirror at all that and translating it to Eye Candy. Takes a massive narcissistic ego.


  18. 18 | October 2, 2012 1:34 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Hey hey hey! That’s President Eye Candy to me and you!


  19. RIX
    19 | October 2, 2012 1:37 pm

    @ Kafir:
    In think that Obama can obfuscate very well with media help.
    But once the Rezko land deal is explained he won’t be able
    to wiggle off the hook.


  20. waldensianspirit
    20 | October 2, 2012 1:38 pm

    If they go at Romney’s wealth he should simply state “At least I spend my own money and not trillions of yours”


  21. song_and_dance_man
    21 | October 2, 2012 1:38 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    You left out Marxist in Chief


  22. song_and_dance_man
    22 | October 2, 2012 1:41 pm

    I think I might keep a tally of how many times B. Hussein says ‘uh’.


  23. 23 | October 2, 2012 1:43 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    You are referring to President Slims’ PUBLIC lifestyle, correct?


  24. waldensianspirit
    24 | October 2, 2012 1:43 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I think I might keep a tally of how many times B. Hussein says ‘uh’.

    Yea, better not be a part of your drinking game


  25. waldensianspirit
    25 | October 2, 2012 1:43 pm

    ‘Uh’ or ‘I’ will poison you


  26. RIX
    26 | October 2, 2012 1:44 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If they go at Romney’s wealth he should simply state “At least I spend my own money and not trillions of yours”

    Or how about, “I don’t live like a trust fund baby at
    tax payer expense.”


  27. song_and_dance_man
    27 | October 2, 2012 1:46 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If they go at Romney’s wealth he should simply state “At least I spend my own money and not trillions of yours”

    Now that is a great response. He should follow that by noting billions going to pro Islam Brotherhood Egypt.


  28. song_and_dance_man
    28 | October 2, 2012 1:47 pm

    Macker wrote:

    You are referring to President Slims’ PUBLIC lifestyle, correct?

    You mean the one on the shadier side of Chicago?


  29. huckfunn
    29 | October 2, 2012 1:47 pm

    For all you gals out there, your president has a message for you:


  30. 30 | October 2, 2012 1:50 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Any other candidate would be embarrassed beyond belief by this.


  31. huckfunn
    31 | October 2, 2012 1:52 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    The regime is shameless. There are no adults in charge.


  32. 32 | October 2, 2012 1:54 pm

    @ Macker:
    I suppose Romney would object to calling Obama “that arrogant cocksucker” though rumor has it that it is an entirely factual statement …


  33. 33 | October 2, 2012 2:00 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Being a Democrat means never having to hide your obvious castration anxiety …


  34. huckfunn
    34 | October 2, 2012 2:08 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Their mental disorders are legion.


  35. 35 | October 2, 2012 2:10 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    He should call him a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure. Ask him when he’s planning to open an investigation on the murder of Ambassador Stevens -- or does he only make phone calls when a Democrat plant gets called a slut by a talk show host.

    And while he’s at it, maybe he can tell the survivors of the Ft. Hood massacre victims when he’ll be bringing the killer of their loved ones to justice.


  36. Bumr50
    36 | October 2, 2012 2:12 pm

    “Jonathan, as this campaign has progressed, I’ve noticed that Mr. Romney has become increasingly impatient and testy, particularly when asked polite questions by the media. Is it therefore fair to assume that Mr. Romney does have difficulties when the pressure on him increases, ’cause we’ve heard David Axelrod describe [the] presidential campaign as an MRI for the soul.”


  37. 37 | October 2, 2012 2:16 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Did you see where the Embassy in Libya had asked for increased security? I’d ask Obama if he’d care to explain to the American people why that is …


  38. 38 | October 2, 2012 2:21 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Looks like Obama’s campaign has now yanked the Lady Bits card -- but alas for the Skinny Socialist, the Internet and screenshots are forever.


  39. song_and_dance_man
    39 | October 2, 2012 2:24 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    What a bunch of [deleted]


  40. 40 | October 2, 2012 2:25 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    Don’t ask Obama about his Muslim faith, but you’d better believe that they are going to be talking about what a bad Mormon Romney is …


  41. 41 | October 2, 2012 2:25 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    @ Bumr50:

    It’s no longer a presidential campaign, it’s reality TV. That said, the Libya debacle may well provide the tipping point and Obama won’t be able to toss Hillary under the bus in time -- I would have thought she would have been jettisoned early on.


  42. 42 | October 2, 2012 2:29 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    If he tosses Hillary under his bus, he loses her husband Billy Jeff. The Clinton endorsement is just about the only positive thing he has right now. You want to see the polls shift immediately in Romney’s favor, just watch was a Billy Jeff back stabbing would look like to the Bamster.


  43. huckfunn
    43 | October 2, 2012 2:31 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Looks like Obama’s campaign has now yanked the Lady Bits card — but alas for the Skinny Socialist, the Internet and screenshots are forever.

    When it went up on Drudge somebody somewhere said “get that thing off of there!” It will stay on Drudge until everyone on the planet has seen it.


  44. 44 | October 2, 2012 2:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Don’t ask Obama about his Muslim faith, but you’d better believe that they are going to be talking about what a bad Mormon Romney is …

    Yeah, they’re fishing for some anti-Mormon sentiment among Catholics. Frankly I don’t think they can sink much deeper into the slime…..but I’m sure they’ll surprise me.

    The funny thing is, I’m an old-school Catholic, did my 12 years of Catholic schools and I just recently became aware of this Catholic vs. Mormon thing that’s supposedly so bitter. I guess my family just never told me about that one……..


  45. 45 | October 2, 2012 2:35 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    There’s a Catholic vs. Mormon thing?


  46. 46 | October 2, 2012 2:38 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    There’s a Catholic vs. Mormon thing?

    So it seems. I didn’t get my Vatican memo on that one.


  47. MikeA
    47 | October 2, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Goes back to the infamous Less Filling / Tastes Great schisim in 1895. It was a nasty fight….


  48. song_and_dance_man
    48 | October 2, 2012 2:42 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    There’s a Catholic vs. Mormon thing?

    Obama’s people are calling Catholic voters and telling them that because Romney is Mormon he doesn’t believe in Jesus as the Christ.


  49. song_and_dance_man
    49 | October 2, 2012 2:44 pm

    The Obots are up to dirty tricks.


  50. 50 | October 2, 2012 2:44 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    There is no depth too low for Obama not to go there. Things will get much nastier if Obama takes a real header in the real polls.


  51. 51 | October 2, 2012 2:46 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    NO no no no no! I’ve met a few dozen folks of the Mormon faith, and believe me, they really love them some Jesus! Make no mistake about it, they are Christians. They just also happen to believe that one of the tribes of Israel came here to America some how, and that Jesus had himself a second resurrection, so that the people in this hemisphere would not completely lose out on their chance for salvation.

    I don’t know if I got it all 100%, but I do know that they believe in Jesus.


  52. lobo91
    52 | October 2, 2012 2:48 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Obama’s people are calling Catholic voters and telling them that because Romney is Mormon he doesn’t believe in Jesus as the Christ.

    And we’re supposed to believe that Obama does?


  53. huckfunn
    53 | October 2, 2012 2:50 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    @ Bumr50:

    It’s no longer a presidential campaign, it’s reality TV. That said, the Libya debacle may well provide the tipping point and Obama won’t be able to toss Hillary under the bus in time — I would have thought she would have been jettisoned early on.

    There’s a scandal, or 2, per day to the point that it’s getting difficult to remember them all. I keep wondering how long does MSM think they can continue to prop him up. The runaway lawlessness and naked dereliction of duty have got to be giving some pause to even the hackiest of hacks.


  54. song_and_dance_man
    54 | October 2, 2012 2:50 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    It’s political jihad in that camp.


  55. huckfunn
    55 | October 2, 2012 2:53 pm

    Now here’s a funny. Joe Biden doesn’t want anyone to forget that he’s still the stupidest person in the regime.


  56. song_and_dance_man
    56 | October 2, 2012 2:54 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    IIRC they don’t believe in the trinity which is fundamental to most Christian sects.


  57. 57 | October 2, 2012 2:55 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Obama’s made it perfectly clear he believes in the Prophet Mohammed. His reaction to the debacle in Libya has been most enlightening about his Muslim faith …


  58. lobo91
    58 | October 2, 2012 2:55 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Did you see where the Embassy in Libya had asked for increased security? I’d ask Obama if he’d care to explain to the American people why that is …

    Diplomats asked repeatedly for more security before Libya attack, lawmakers claim

    U.S. diplomats in Libya repeatedly asked the Obama administration for more security in Benghazi in the run-up to the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate but were “denied these resources,” two congressional lawmakers said.

    House oversight committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, pressed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for more information on those requests and other concerns in a letter Tuesday.

    They detailed a string of attacks and other security incidents in Benghazi starting in April, and asked the State Department what measures it took to address the threat. They claimed officials have told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee of “repeated requests” for additional security.

    “Based on information provided to the committee by individuals with direct knowledge of events in Libya, the attack that claimed the ambassador’s life was the latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months leading up to September 11, 2012,” they wrote. “In addition, multiple U.S. federal government officials have confirmed to the committee that, prior to the September 11 attack, the U.S. mission in Libya made repeated requests for increased security in Benghazi. The mission in Libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in Washington.”

    A State Department spokeswoman said Tuesday that Clinton plans to respond to the lawmakers’ questions.

    The House committee plans to hold an Oct. 10 hearing on security in the region leading up to the attack. The letter to Clinton alleges 12 incidents that showed the deteriorating security situation on the ground.


  59. song_and_dance_man
    59 | October 2, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I don’t think he does. He’s practicing taqiyya when he purports his christian faith. It’s a cover because he wouldn’t have been voted in as POTUS if he told the truth about his real faith.


  60. song_and_dance_man
    60 | October 2, 2012 2:58 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yep. He’s hinted at it in oh so many ways. From his speech in Cairo to the ‘prettiest sound on earth’ his outreach and now funds going to Egypt.


  61. 61 | October 2, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Biden is the gift that keeps on giving. I am so glad Obama stayed with him.


  62. 62 | October 2, 2012 3:04 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I don’t think he does. He’s practicing taqiyya when he purports his christian faith. It’s a cover because he wouldn’t have been voted in as POTUS if he told the truth about his real faith.

    II’d have a lot more respect for him if he’d just admit the obvious. I don’t think hes a Muslim, though. I believe he is an atheist who has a tremendous veneration for Islam. If he had faith he’d be a muslim, but Obama doesn’t recognize any god other than himself.


  63. huckfunn
    63 | October 2, 2012 3:04 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Makes one wonder about the electorate in Delaware. They sent that buffoon to the Senate beginning in 1972 and every term until he became the Vice Stooge.


  64. 64 | October 2, 2012 3:07 pm

    Here’s something on this supposed Catholic vs. Mormon row. As religious feuds go, it’s pretty thin gruel.


  65. lobo91
    65 | October 2, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    If he had faith he’d be a muslim, but Obama doesn’t recognize any god other than himself.

    I agree.


  66. 66 | October 2, 2012 3:08 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The sheer incompetence of that really floors me. That Obama didn’t want to offend the Mohammedans is the likely reason behind it. Libya is enough reason to get rid of this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure …


  67. lobo91
    67 | October 2, 2012 3:13 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    The sheer incompetence of that really floors me. That Obama didn’t want to offend the Mohammedans is the likely reason behind it. Libya is enough reason to get rid of this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure …

    One thing they mentioned on-air that wasn’t in that piece is that the security contractor recognized the problem and wanted to bring in a more capable (and presumably armed) firm to augment security at the site.

    The State department vetoed their request, because their contract “doesn’t allow for subcontractors.”


  68. lobo91
    68 | October 2, 2012 3:16 pm

    Militant freed from prison in wake of Arab Spring may be linked to Libya attack

    The revolutions that swept the Middle East and North Africa also emptied prisons of militants, a problem now emerging as a potential new terrorist threat.

    Fighters linked to one freed militant, Muhammad Jamal Abu Ahmad, took part in the Sept. 11 attack on U.S. diplomatic outposts in Libya that killed four Americans, U.S. officials believe based on initial reports. Intelligence reports suggest that some of the attackers trained at camps he established in the Libyan Desert, a former U.S. official said.

    Western officials say Mr. Ahmad has petitioned the chief of Al Qaeda, to whom he has long ties, for permission to launch an Al Qaeda affiliate and has secured financing from Al Qaeda’s Yemeni wing.


  69. 69 | October 2, 2012 3:20 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I hope he keeps talking!


  70. 70 | October 2, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ Iron Fist:

    Obama thinks he is god!


  71. 71 | October 2, 2012 3:22 pm

    @ lobo91:
    If Obama were a Republican the Libya debacle would seal his fate. No Republican could survive such abysmal failure in an election year. We’ll see about Obama. Instapundit links a devistating ad from American Crossroads.


  72. lobo91
    72 | October 2, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’ve seen it (although not on TV).


  73. song_and_dance_man
    73 | October 2, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    I hope Romney’s hammers bo with the Libyan fiasco


  74. darkwords
    74 | October 2, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ 55 huckfunn :D An Qualye was a lot smarter


  75. 75 | October 2, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    The Obama campaign casting Romney as the incumbent, and the media falling in line, is the damnedest thing I’ve ever seen.


  76. coldwarrior
    76 | October 2, 2012 3:26 pm

    thank god i dont have to watch the debates. i already know who i am voting for.

    have 2 lbs of sea scallops, some local beef filet and some nice mushrooms for the grill.


  77. 77 | October 2, 2012 3:31 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    If Obama were a Republican the Libya debacle would seal his fate. No Republican could survive such abysmal failure in an election year. We’ll see about Obama. Instapundit links a devistating ad from American Crossroads.

    I think Libya may well be the “final straw”, the tipping point as it were. Benghazi was such a monumental screw-up that it’s indefensible at any level -- they’re not even offering a defense and nor are they’re surrogates.


  78. lobo91
    78 | October 2, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I think Libya may well be the “final straw”, the tipping point as it were. Benghazi was such a monumental screw-up that it’s indefensible at any level — they’re not even offering a defense and nor are they’re surrogates.

    The plan is to use the “ongoing investigation” line to silence questions until after the election.


  79. 79 | October 2, 2012 3:39 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    The only thing in th eBush Administration that came close was Katrina, and that was only after a week of hyperventaliating by the MFM if full Demonize George Bush mode. This would break any Republican. The only question is can five weeks of non-stop covering by the MFM save Obama, or is it too late for even that to pull it out for him. An Ambassador was assassinated. That is a big fucking deal, to quote the VP. It hasn’t happened since Carter was President. And this one is all Obama’s. He can’t really hide behind anyone. Sure, he could maybe throw Hillary Clinton to the wolves, but he’ll lose anyway if he does that. As pointed out above, Billy Jeff will take his toys and go home if that happens.


  80. citizen_q
    80 | October 2, 2012 4:09 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    The sheer incompetence of that really floors me. That Obama didn’t want to offend the Mohammedans is the likely reason behind it. Libya is enough reason to get rid of this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure …

    One thing they mentioned on-air that wasn’t in that piece is that the security contractor recognized the problem and wanted to bring in a more capable (and presumably armed) firm to augment security at the site.
    The State department vetoed their request, because their contract “doesn’t allow for subcontractors.”

    Remind me again on whose side the State Department is on?

    They don’t seem to be on ours. To be charitable, they seem to be a governmental agency of foreign (aaahhhchoo saudi) advocacy.


  81. lobo91
    81 | October 2, 2012 4:13 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Remind me again on whose side the State Department is on?

    They don’t seem to be on ours. To be charitable, they seem to be a governmental agency of foreign (aaahhhchoo saudi) advocacy.

    The State department has been out of control for decades. It’s a self-selecting fraternity of left-wing Ivy League graduates who don’t consider themselves subordinate to the political appointees above them, including the Secretary of State.


  82. 82 | October 2, 2012 4:40 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    thank god i dont have to watch the debates. i already know who i am voting for.

    I voted today (I’ll be out of country on Nov. 6.)


  83. lobo91
    83 | October 2, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    We have a “permanent absentee ballot” list here in Colorado. I’m on it.

    They send me mine until I tell them to stop. I don’t even know where my polling place is.


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