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Responsibility Is Part Of The Job Mr. President.

by Flyovercountry ( 116 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Progressives at October 18th, 2012 - 2:54 pm

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During the last nineteen days of this campaign season, some really bad news is in the wind for one Barack Hussein Obama. That bad news is that Americans are starting to take notice of the fact that the buck does in fact stop anywhere but on Obama’s undoubtedly not been used in four years desk. Americans, while they may be prone to making huge mistakes every once in a while, like for instance believing that there is such a thing as a fiscally responsible Democrat, or a tax reforming hawkish Democrat, have never been a fan of people who spent every waking moment thinking of ways to weasel out of taking responsibility.

As a very young Woolworth Manager in a previous life, I was promoted to manage a store in Michigan where the previous manager had been fired for, “running the store into the dirt.” My boss, the District Manager, looked at me before he left and said, “John, they’ll give you about six months to get this thing running right. That’s the amount of time the corporate guys will tolerate your claims that you are still cleaning up Bozo’s mess. It might be true that those problems will still exist after that, but after six months, they’ll just be tired of hearing it. That might not be fair, but then life isn’t.”

That’s the truth of it. We all have excuse fatigue, and when you boil down Barack Obama’s campaign strategy, excuses are the only real things of substance he has to offer. The problems with this president run much deeper than his complete ignorance on the subject of economics, his big government bent, and his belief that the solution for problems caused by big government interventions of the past would be even bigger government interventions for the future. The problem with this president runs even deeper than his projection of American weakness around the globe causing the sacking of multiple U.S. embassies across Northern Africa and in the Middle East. The problem with this President runs even deeper than his maniacal insistence on interjecting governmental oversight and regulation into every aspect of what used to be a free society, including by the way things as mundane as what parents are allowed to feed their school children on a daily basis. The deeper problem with this President, are his attempts to weasel his way out of even the slightest bit of responsibility, for anything.

The economic woes, of an economy that is still in as terrible a shape as it was in January of 2009, had become Obama’s self professed responsibility at least a dozen times since his inauguration. The economy by the way has gotten no better, it is merely a case where Americans have gotten used to the constant malaise. In truth, it became his economy on the day he took the oath of office, not because anything was his fault, but because that was the day he formally swore an oath to start taking responsibility for America’s business. The, “it is all George Bush’s fault,” meme became tiresome to Americans as a whole right around July of that year. Think back to July of 2009, remember what the big debate and political discussion was then? I do, and it was all about Obamacare, and reading story after story telling an electorate that clearly did not want it to become law to not worry, the bill had died. The President had promised multiple times to refocus his laser like attention on the economy instead, and then like a bad Peter Lorrie movie, the creature was reborn, and the economy placed on the back burner, remaining George W. Bush’s fault.

Afghanistan and Iraq had been won already by the time Barack Obama was inaugurated in 2009, and somehow he managed to project enough American weakness around those areas to turn those cowed states into hot spots for Jihadists, and that somehow too was Bush’s fault. Fast and Furious, the operation in which stimulus money was spent on enough small armaments to arm a small South American Country, and then presented as a gift to Mexican Drug Lords, that too was blamed on George W. Bush. Shocking, I know. Solyndra, A123 Systems, Fiskar, and all those other losers of tax payer money used to promote the Green Fairy from the land of Unicorns to actual reality, that was the fault of his obviously not-as-smart-as-he-is staff. The poor sales of his spiffy new auto companies, which are both in deep financial trouble once again, despite the $50 Billion we gave them and the unions in order to just magic those troubles away, why it was the fault of the people he hand picked to run those companies and carry out his wishes.

This latest kerfuffle in Benghazi is merely more of the same. Putting aside for the moment that Barack Obama’s foreign policy ended in the only possible way that it could have, disaster, his actions afterwards are nothing more than a continuation of his same old tiresome pathology. His first impulse upon all hell breaking loose was not to be in any way helpful to the people whom he had so icily placed in harms way with his kumbayah school of foreign policy, nor was it to shore up the remaining embassies which were also in danger of being sacked, nor was it to send a message of strength to those who now view America as ripe for more attacks due to our being a weakened paper tiger. His first impulse was to extricate himself from responsibility. He did not want the optics of failure to get in the way of his approval numbers or to damage his electoral prospects.

Barack Obama likes being President. You get a pretty cool jet airplane to tool around the globe on. You get a nice big house and your office is actually in the same building. People give you deferential treatment, out of respect for the office you hold, even if they do not agree with you personally or feel that you should be listened to outside of the office you hold. You get to party with Hollywood stars, and sports legends come to your house in order to have a little basketball game. You get to play a hundred rounds of golf in a year, and your wife gets to take lavish vacations in exotic locations, while including a hundred or so friends, secret service protection, and somebody else pays for it all.

The part of the job that Barack Obama does not like is taking responsibility, for what ever happens that may have an impact upon his job. Part of being President is being a leader. Even in grade school, nobody liked the kid who got everyone else in trouble for crap that he pulled while he skated clean, smelling like a rose. Sooner or later that kid ended up being hated by all. The other trouble makers hated him, the kids who never got into trouble hated him, and the teacher’s themselves eventually came to hate him. Barack Obama’s first impulse in any situation is to get out of taking responsibility for anything. That is a dangerous man indeed to have as President. Other world leaders will soon notice this if they haven’t already. The latest collapse in the polls, which continued by the way past the all important second debate in which we were assured Barack Obama actually won, is the direct result of the American people noticing that they are suddenly tired of a President who offers nothing but excuses for why nothing is his fault.

I don’t need a President with style, cool, or hipster gravitas. I need a president with competence and a sense of responsibility.

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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116 Responses to “Responsibility Is Part Of The Job Mr. President.”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | October 18, 2012 3:12 pm

    Obama as Evan Thomas said is above it all, like a God.


  2. 2 | October 18, 2012 3:25 pm

    More than anything, the history of the Obama Administration will be a history of the complete abscence of Leadership on anything. On the last thread I linked to where the Tennessean had endorsed Romney for President, and all of their reasons boiled down to that. But they, Liberals that they are, blamed this lack of leadership on GOP iintransigence. They simply glossed over the first two years of his Administration, when he had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and a sizable majority in the House. He could have done anything he’d had the leadership to accomplish, and he accomplished too much. He looted the treasury and got ObamaCare passed, but neither of these really required any leadership from him, merely the venality of the Democrats in the majority.


  3. RIX
    3 | October 18, 2012 3:28 pm

    Obama has never really had to take responsibility for most of his life.
    His comment in the first debate was instructive, “It’s time that the
    Governor and his running mate accept responsibility”
    It doesn’t occur to him that as president, the responsibility is his.


  4. Eliana
    4 | October 18, 2012 3:28 pm

    The latest collapse in the polls, which continued by the way past the all important second debate in which we were assured Barack Obama actually won, is the direct result of the American people noticing that they are suddenly tired of a President who offers nothing but excuses for why nothing is his fault.

    I don’t need a President with style, cool, or hipster gravitas. I need a president with competence and a sense of responsibility.

    Very well stated!

    I have a theory about why Obama bombed so badly in the first debate.

    He didn’t see why he needed to be there. He is the president so why should he have to apply for the job all over again?

    He would just tell them “Republicans started this mess so you have to vote for me next month. Now bring me my coffee and a muffin.”


  5. MikeA
    5 | October 18, 2012 3:30 pm

    Uh oh… Seems someone has some ‘splaing to do…

    After the Clinton legal team had a chance to review the State Department cable traffic between Benghazi and Washington, the experts came to the conclusion that the cables proved that Hillary had in fact given specific instructions to beef up security in Libya, and that if those orders had been carried out — which they weren’t — they could conceivably have avoided the tragedy.

    Clearly, someone in the Obama administration dropped the ball — and the president was still insisting that it was not his fault.


  6. 6 | October 18, 2012 3:32 pm

    @ MikeA:

    That’s going to leave a mark!


  7. Speranza
    7 | October 18, 2012 3:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    More than anything, the history of the Obama Administration will be a history of the complete abscence of Leadership on anything. On the last thread I linked to where the Tennessean had endorsed Romney for President, and all of their reasons boiled down to that.

    I rally am getting more and more optimistic about this election.


  8. MikeA
    8 | October 18, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Wonder if they will find someone in the WH to fall on their sword and get run over by the Obama Bus. This just becomes the gift that keeps on giving. Romney needs to HAMMER Zero on this during the debate on Monday.


  9. Eliana
    9 | October 18, 2012 3:40 pm

    @ MikeA:

    The Obama administration is trying to keep this information from getting out until after the election.

    Hillary will be cleared (sounds like) but they want knowledge of the real screw-up to wait until after the votes have been counted.


  10. 10 | October 18, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ MikeA:

    The problem with that is the, “who’s left,” conundrum. After the Secretary of State, there really is no one left to over rule her besides the President. She holds a cabinet level position. She is at the top of the food chain in her directorate, and answers directly to the President of the United States. Any attempt to duck this one will only make him look worse.


  11. 11 | October 18, 2012 3:42 pm

    Obama throws Hillary under the bus at his peril:

    “Governor Romney’s argument is, we’re not fixed, so fire him and put me in,” said Clinton. “It is true we’re not fixed. When President Obama looked into the eyes of that man who said in the debate, I had so much hope four years ago and I don’t now, I thought he was going to cry. Because he knows that it’s not fixed.”

    Say it again, Bill! So why did you agree to prop up this empty suit at the DNC?


  12. Eliana
    12 | October 18, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    So Hillary was waiting for the big guy to sign off on her orders and he didn’t get around to it?

    She was crying after the murders -- sounds like some of it might have been frustration that the deaths could have been prevented if her orders had been followed.


  13. 13 | October 18, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Tears over her Presidential aspirations going “Poof!” I assure you, not over the dead. The woman has no more soul than a dead mackrel.


  14. Eliana
    14 | October 18, 2012 3:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Quite true!


  15. MikeA
    15 | October 18, 2012 3:50 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Oh I understand that but never underestimate the narcisist in chief. He will try to duck this but it will land on him.

    Speculation: Might the October surprise be the Clintons getting the last laugh and throwing Obama under his own bus with this Libya fiasco?


  16. 16 | October 18, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ MikeA:

    This is starting to look like Watergate.


  17. 17 | October 18, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Bill Clinton just endorsed Romney.


  18. 18 | October 18, 2012 3:57 pm

    @ Rodan:

    No, Clinton is still lying for Obama:

    PARMA, Ohio (AP) -- Former President Bill Clinton says Republicans have tried to keep the nation’s unemployment rate high for political gain.

    Campaigning in Ohio for President Barack Obama, Clinton says the GOP was “crushed” when the jobless rate fell to 7.8 percent last month. He says Republicans nearly managed to keep it above 8 percent “all the way to the election. But they failed.”

    Clinton didn’t say specifically what he thought Republicans had done to try to keep unemployment above 8 percent.

    He just let the mask slip for a minute. Clinton is a corruptocrat’s corruptocrat. I doubt we’ve ever had more corrupt a President. But Obama is much worse overall. Clinton had the good sense to change course when the voters overruled him, and then the economy picked up.


  19. 19 | October 18, 2012 3:58 pm

    @ Eliana:
    @ MikeA:
    @ Iron Fist:

    Why was an Al-Qaeda militia leader at the US Consulate in Benghazi during the attack?

    (Reuters) -- A Libyan militia commander who U.S. officials say is under investigation in connection with the attacks on the American consulate in Benghazi which led to the death of the ambassador said he was present during the incident but was not one of the ringleaders.

    Some American newspapers have quoted unnamed Libyan officials as pointing to Ahmed Abu Khattala as the leader of the attacks on Sept, 11. The newspapers also reported that the officials said Abu Khattala’s whereabouts were unknown.

    U.S. government sources told Reuters that Abu Khattala is being investigated as a suspect in the Benghazi consulate attacks though U.S. investigators are not clear at this point if he played a role in leading or organizing the attacks.

    This backs the claim that the US was recruiting Al Qaeda fighters at Benghazi for Syria.


  20. Eliana
    20 | October 18, 2012 3:58 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Bill Clinton at a campaign event in Ohio today: “Governor Romney’s argument is, ‘We’re not fixed, so fire him and put me in.’ It is true, we’re not fixed. When President Obama looked into the eyes of that man who said in the debate, ‘I had so much hope four years ago and I don’t now,’ I thought he was gonna cry. Because he knows that it’s not fixed.”

    Clinton: ‘It Is True’ Obama Hasn’t Fixed Economy

    Oops! I didn’t see this link from Iron Fist above!


  21. MikeA
    21 | October 18, 2012 3:59 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ Iron Fist:

    What is that line from Napoleon… When your enemy is destroying themselves, get out of the way and encourge them…. :)


  22. 22 | October 18, 2012 4:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    This backs the claim that the US was recruiting Al Qaeda fighters at Benghazi for Syria.

    Cough cough… :twisted: yea… you know what…. :razz:


  23. 23 | October 18, 2012 4:02 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ Iron Fist:
    What is that line from Napoleon… When your enemy is destroying themselves, get out of the way and encourge them….

    No… That is Sun Tzu…


  24. 24 | October 18, 2012 4:04 pm

    I find that Toon funny…look at the huge ASS Shrillary has in it! 8)


  25. RIX
    25 | October 18, 2012 4:05 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Clintons got a deal with BHO.
    They get something out of it.


  26. 26 | October 18, 2012 4:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Clintons got a deal with BHO.
    They get something out of it.

    But who gets the better end of the deal?


  27. 27 | October 18, 2012 4:13 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Hey GumbeyandPokey from Hot Air is here under the name Ferb123.


  28. lobo91
    28 | October 18, 2012 4:14 pm

    Sally Kohn: ‘NO ONE GIVES A SH*T ABOUT FAST & FURIOUS’

    Liberal commentator and unpaid Fox News Channel contributor Sally Kohn tweeted a profanity-laced comment about Operation Fast and Furious on Tuesday evening after the presidential debate, writing, “Dear conservatives — NO ONE GIVES A SH*T ABOUT FAST & FURIOUS. Manufactured issue, was a mistake and was resolved.”

    After a number of people on Twitter replied to that Tweet expressing disgust with Kohn’s remarks, she added, “To clarify, OF COURSE I care about [Border Patrol agent] Brian Terry [who was killed with Fast and Furious weapons] and others — but no, American voters do not care about GOP conspiracy theory.”

    While Kohn might not care about the scandal, 131 members of the U.S. House, eight U.S. senators, two sitting governors, Republican nominee Mitt Romney and many more have demanded Attorney General Eric Holder’s resignation over the scandal.


  29. 29 | October 18, 2012 4:16 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Clinton just threw Obama under the bus.


  30. RIX
    30 | October 18, 2012 4:17 pm

    Macker wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Clintons got a deal with BHO.
    They get something out of it.

    But who gets the better end of the deal?

    How can they trust each other?
    When dealing with Obama or either Clinton, you back out of the room.


  31. RIX
    31 | October 18, 2012 4:19 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Angry lesbians are so unattractive.


  32. 32 | October 18, 2012 4:19 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Hey GumbeyandPokey from Hot Air is here under the name Ferb123.

    Yup… Saw that…. Somebody needs to get him some Ambien… Hell somebody should make sure all the democrats get a nice healthy dose of Ambien… BWAHAHAHAH……. :twisted:


  33. Eliana
    33 | October 18, 2012 4:20 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Clinton just threw Obama under the bus.

    Good -- he has a lot of former friends and grandmas under there to keep him company.


  34. 34 | October 18, 2012 4:21 pm

    A broken clock is right twice a day!

    Iran: How long can debt-laden US remain world power?


  35. 35 | October 18, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    That guy is so delusional.


  36. lobo91
    36 | October 18, 2012 4:34 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Speaking of delusional:

    CNN blames ‘Romney supporters’ for Candy Crowley controversy

    Despite facing serious backlash for correcting Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on the White House’s response to the Libya crisis during Tuesday’s presidential debate — and then admitting the candidate was “right in the main” on the issue — debate moderator Candy Crowley just received a ringing endorsement from her boss.

    According to an email distributed in the CNN office and obtained by TMZ, CNN Vice President Mark Whitaker spoke glowingly of Crowley and her performance. Whitaker also blamed “Romney supporters” for the criticism of Crowley.

    Full text of the email (via TMZ):

    Let’s start with a big round of applause for Candy Crowley for a superb job under the most difficult circumstances imaginable. She and her team had to select and sequence questions in a matter of hours, and then she had to deal with the tricky format, the nervous questioners, the aggressive debaters, all while shutting out the pre-debate attempts to spin and intimidate her. She pulled it off masterfully.

    The reviews on Candy’s performance have been overwhelmingly positive but Romney supporters are going after her on two points, no doubt because their man did not have as good a night as he had in Denver. On the legitimacy of Candy fact-checking Romney on Obama’s Rose Garden statement, it should be stressed that she was just stating a point of fact: Obama did talk about an act (or acts) of terror, no matter what you think he meant by that at the time. On why Obama got more time to speak, it should be noted that Candy and her commission producers tried to keep it even but that Obama went on longer largely because he speaks more slowly. We’re going to do a word count to see whether, as in Denver, Romney actually got more words in even if he talked for a shorter period of time.


  37. Speranza
    37 | October 18, 2012 4:38 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Clinton just threw Obama under the bus.
    Good — he has a lot of former friends and grandmas under there to keep him company.

    Heh! Good one.


  38. ferb123
    38 | October 18, 2012 4:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Hey GumbeyandPokey from Hot Air is here under the name Ferb123.

    Ahhhhhh, thats a lie. A fat lie!!!!!!
    Why you want me to be GumbeyandPokey?
    I am not GumbeyandPokey from Hot Air. :)

    XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


  39. Speranza
    39 | October 18, 2012 4:41 pm

    Unemployment “fell” to 7.8% because one large state did not report its unemployment. As if 7.8% is something to be proud of anyway.


  40. lobo91
    40 | October 18, 2012 4:42 pm

    This is interesting:

    The UNSKEWED Projection of the 2012 Presidential Race

    The QStarNews projection of the 2012 presidential race sees Mitt Romney being elected the next president of the United States with 52.22 percent of the popular vote and 342 electoral votes to President Obama’s 47.31 percent and 196 electoral votes.

    QStarNews predicts the turnout nationally will includes 34.8 percent Republicans, 35.2 percent Democrats, and 30.0 percent independents. QStarNews predicts turnout will rise by about four percent, or a total of about 129,170,000 voters including about 600,000 for third party candidates and the rest going to Romney and Obama.


  41. lobo91
    41 | October 18, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That’s about the reddest electoral map I’ve ever seen.

    Well, since 1984.


  42. 42 | October 18, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ Speranza:

    That, and because when businesses added 114,000 jobs in September, somehow 853,000 people managed to get themselves hired to fill those positions. A neat trick I know, but such is the magic of the Obama Administration’s accounting techniques.


  43. ferb123
    43 | October 18, 2012 4:45 pm

    hmmm unskewed polls look totally rigged
    XDDDDDDDDDDD


  44. lobo91
    44 | October 18, 2012 4:46 pm

    ferb123 wrote:

    hmmm unskewed polls look totally rigged
    XDDDDDDDDDDD

    Yeah, if by “rigged” you mean “not massively skewed in Obama’s favor.”


  45. lobo91
    45 | October 18, 2012 4:47 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    That, and because when businesses added 114,000 jobs in September, somehow 853,000 people managed to get themselves hired to fill those positions. A neat trick I know, but such is the magic of the Obama Administration’s accounting techniques.

    Enron accounting: It’s not just for Medicare anymore!


  46. 46 | October 18, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ ferb123:

    Was rigged in your word of the day email today? The great thing about the election is that in 19 days time, it will actually happen independently of our predictions. So keep running your mouth, and be prepared for this to be the theme on November 7, 2012.


  47. ferb123
    47 | October 18, 2012 4:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    ferb123 wrote:

    hmmm unskewed polls look totally rigged
    XDDDDDDDDDDD

    Yeah, if by “rigged” you mean “not massively skewed in Obama’s favor.”

    oh come on, you really think Romney can win Michigan or Pennsylvania ???

    (If yes, you can become rich by betting on that strange unskewed poll predictions)


  48. ferb123
    48 | October 18, 2012 4:56 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ ferb123:
    Was rigged in your word of the day email today? The great thing about the election is that in 19 days time, it will actually happen independently of our predictions. So keep running your mouth, and be prepared for this to be the theme on November 7, 2012.

    I didnt start this “all poll are skewed” discussion.
    Many other users here claim poll are skewed.


  49. lobo91
    49 | October 18, 2012 5:00 pm

    @ ferb123:

    I guess we’ll find out in about 19 days, won’t we?

    Keep telling yourself that people are going to turn out in record numbers to vote for the worst president of their lifetime, though.

    I’m sure it’s comforting.


  50. 50 | October 18, 2012 5:03 pm

    Heh! Bob Beckel just said that if the Gallup numbers (52% Romney 45% Obama) are real then IT IS OVER! Beckel didn’t sound too happy about it, but that is correct. If the Gallup numbers are real the election is over.


  51. 51 | October 18, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ lobo91:

    It’s going to be D+11ty on Election Day! 11ty!!!!!!

    8O


  52. lobo91
    52 | October 18, 2012 5:08 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    It’s going to be D+11ty on Election Day! 11ty!!!!!!

    Yeah. Sure it is.

    Everyone’s going to hop into their new unicorn-fart-powered Volts and happily vote to re-elect Ear Leader.


  53. 53 | October 18, 2012 5:09 pm

    ferb123 wrote:

    hmmm unskewed polls look totally rigged
    XDDDDDDDDDDD

    OK Gumbey.


  54. 54 | October 18, 2012 5:10 pm

    ferb123 wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Hey GumbeyandPokey from Hot Air is here under the name Ferb123.

    Ahhhhhh, thats a lie. A fat lie!!!!!!
    Why you want me to be GumbeyandPokey?
    I am not GumbeyandPokey from Hot Air.
    XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    Fuck off dick sucker…


  55. 55 | October 18, 2012 5:12 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Heh! Bob Beckel just said that if the Gallup numbers (52% Romney 45% Obama) are real then IT IS OVER! Beckel didn’t sound too happy about it, but that is correct. If the Gallup numbers are real the election is over.

    Bob Backel is an asshole of the first order, but he is an asshole of the first order who occasionally forget to drink his koolaid.


  56. 56 | October 18, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ lobo91:

    should be noted that Candy and her commission producers tried to keep it even but that Obama went on longer largely because he speaks more slowly.

    So Obama needed a special favor because he speaks slowly. Poor little boy.


  57. 57 | October 18, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Gumbey must be getting paid overtime. I am glad we are on the DNC’s radar.


  58. lobo91
    58 | October 18, 2012 5:17 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Bob Backel is an asshole of the first order, but he is an asshole of the first order who occasionally forget to drink his koolaid.

    Unlike your pal above, Beckel is an asshole who needs to have a job come November 7th. Even he can see the writing on the wall. Continuing to make outlandish predictions about Obama being re-elected won’t gain him any credibility.


  59. lobo91
    59 | October 18, 2012 5:17 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    should be noted that Candy and her commission producers tried to keep it even but that Obama went on longer largely because he speaks more slowly.

    So Obama needed a special favor because he speaks slowly. Poor little boy.

    Maybe he can sue for extra time under the Americans With Disabilities Act.


  60. 60 | October 18, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    ROFLMAIAO!


  61. ferb123
    61 | October 18, 2012 5:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Gumbey must be getting paid overtime. I am glad we are on the DNC’s radar.

    yeah sure, big brother is watching you. XDDDDDDDDDDDD

    Again I am not Gumbey and I am not from DNC. :)


  62. 62 | October 18, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ ferb123:

    [GAZE]


  63. 63 | October 18, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Maybe he can sue for extra time under the Americans With Disabilities Act.

    :lol:


  64. 64 | October 18, 2012 5:24 pm

    @ ferb123:

    O.K., since I am one of the people here who actually know how polling works, and how to read the internals, follow the methodology, check the calculus used to analyze the statistics, I can see that you need some kind of a lesson, and why people in the know actually use Zogby and Rasmussen as a real guide.

    I’ll add a note on Zogby at the end of this.

    When you read the headline of a poll that 750 Likely voters were used to determine that this percentage of Americans feel this way or that, realize that the polling company probably made 15,000 phone calls to speak to 1500 people to determine that sample of 750. What you see in all of the polls is that no matter who the pollster is, most of them are very, very close to each other within each of the demographic groups represented. Gallup, Rasmussen, Zogby, Suffolk, Marist, or whoever, all pretty much agree that 86% of Republicans will vote for Romney, and that 85% of all Democrats will vote for Obama. They all agree, to within a razor sharp margin by the way, that Romney leads independents by 8 percentage points. The biggest disagreement is what the ultimate voting sample, or demographic breakdown will look like. During 2008′s Presidential election, at the height of the whole Hopety-Change-Hate-Bush fervor, that sample was 39%D/32%R/29%I. During the 2010 midterm elections, the sample was 36%D/35%R/29%I. A 6 point swing in the demographics of voter enthusiasm has huge implications. What you see in the top line of the polling company’s headline is not the actual breakdown of how people answered those calls, but a manipulation of answers to achieve a sample population which represents the size eventually given. In other words, the polling company will say, for our sample to be 39/32/29, we need to have our population include 293/240/217. When they have 85% Democrats say Obama, he’ll get credit for 85% of 293 people in their top line.

    I hope by now, you can see where this is going. In the end analysis, that demographic sample is only an educated guess, no matter who is conducting the poll. There are only two pollsters who even attempt to proactively determine this sample makeup as a part of their program, and you probably guessed it, Zogby, which is a left leaning outfit by the way, and Rasmussen, which is a right leaning outfit. What everybody here noticed, who knows anything about polling, is that the other organizations were using samples that showed a prospective demographic breakdown of 39/28/33. For this to be a true representation of how our voting population will look this year, Republicans would have to be even more turned off on Mitt Romney than they were with John McCain. It also means that Democrats would have to be even more enthusiastic on the whole Hopety-Change thing this year than they were four years ago. There is nothing to show that this is the case. In the last 7 Presidential elections, the voting sample demographic matched exactly the proceeding mid term election’s sample demographic.

    My note on Zogby: This year, John Zogby has changed his methodology from phone interviews to an online survey system. This is probably why we have not seen many Zogby polls this year. My personal belief is that he has not yet worked the kinks out of the system, and the very few in number of polls that I have seen from him, have all been outliers so far. This may be the future of polling, as every indication from the other people who do this for a living is that they are having a hell of a hard time getting people to stay on the phone for the full interview.


  65. grambo
    65 | October 18, 2012 5:25 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    Heh! Bob Beckel just said that if the Gallup numbers (52% Romney 45% Obama) are real then IT IS OVER! Beckel didn’t sound too happy about it, but that is correct. If the Gallup numbers are real the election is over.

    Bob Backel is an asshole of the first order, but he is an asshole of the first order who occasionally forget to drink his koolaid.

    Beckel is strong anti-Jihad. I cut him a lot of slack for that.

    …. but….yes, he is an asshole.


  66. huckfunn
    66 | October 18, 2012 5:28 pm

    Check it out. New RCP electoral map finally puts NC in the “leans Romney” column. Electoral college now has Romney 206, Obam-uh 201.


  67. 67 | October 18, 2012 5:32 pm

    ferb123 wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Gumbey must be getting paid overtime. I am glad we are on the DNC’s radar.

    yeah sure, big brother is watching you. XDDDDDDDDDDDD
    Again I am not Gumbey and I am not from DNC.

    To quote Joe Wilson…. You LIE….


  68. huckfunn
    68 | October 18, 2012 5:34 pm

    Romney beating Obama among white voters by more than 20 points. In 2008 I think McLame only took 47% of the white vote.


  69. ferb123
    69 | October 18, 2012 5:40 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ ferb123:
    O.K., since I am one of the people here who actually know how polling works, and how to read the internals, follow the methodology, check the calculus used to analyze the statistics, I can see that you need some kind of an lesson, and why people in the know actually use Zogby and Rasmussen as a real guide.
    I’ll add a note on Zogby at the end of this.
    When you read the headline of a poll that 750 Likely voters were used to determine that this percentage of Americans feel this way or that, realize that the polling company probably made 15,000 phone calls to speak to 1500 people to determine that sample of 750. What you see in all of the polls is that no matter who the pollster is, most of them are very, very close to each other withing each of the demographic groups represented. Gallup, Rasmussen, Zogby, Suffolk, Marist, or whoever, all pretty much agree that 86% of Republicans will vote for Romney, and that 85% of all Democrats will vote for Obama. They all agree, to within a razor sharp margin by the way, that Romney leads independents by 8 percentage points. The biggest disagreement is what the ultimate voting sample, or demographic breakdown will look like. During 2008′s Presidential election, at the height of the whole Hopety-Change-Hate-Bush fervor, that sample was 39%D/32%R/29%I. During the 2010 midterm elections, the sample was 36%D/35%R/29%I. A 6 point swing in the demographics of voter enthusiasm has huge implications. What you see in the top line of the polling company’s headline is not the actual breakdown of how people answered those calls, but a manipulation of answers to achieve a sample population which represents the size eventually given. In other words, the polling company will say, for our sample to be 39/32/29, we need to have our population include 293/240/217. When they have 85% Democrats say Obama, he’ll get credit for 85% of 293 people in their top line.
    I hope by now, you can see where this is going. In the end analysis, that demographic sample is only an educated guess, no matter who is conducting the poll. There are only two pollsters who even attempt to proactively determine this sample makeup as a part of their program, and you probably guessed it, Zogby, which is a left leaning outfit by the way, and Rasmussen, which is a right leaning outfit. What everybody hear noticed, who knows anything about polling, is that the other organizations were using samples that showed a prospective demographic breakdown of 39/28/33. For this to be a true representation of how our voting population will look this year, Republicans would have to be even more turned off of Mitt Romney than they were with John McCain. It also means that Democrats would have to be even more enthusiastic on the whole Hopety-Change thing this year than they were four years ago. There is nothing to show that this is the case. In the last 7 Presidential elections, the voting sample demographic matched exactly the proceeding mid term election’s sample demographic.
    My note on Zogby: This year, John Zogby has changed his methodology from phone interviews to an online survey system. This is probably why we have not seen many Zogby polls this year. My personal belief is that he has not yet worked the kinks out of the system, and the very few in number of polls that I have seen from him, have all been outliers so far. This may be the future of polling, as every indication from the other people who do this for a living is that they are having a hell of a hard time getting people to stay on the phone for the full interview.

    Thank you ver much for the explanation.

    Just one question. Do you think the large increase of independent voters can origin from Tea Party members ( of course they vote for Romney) who consider themself as independent voters?


  70. 70 | October 18, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ ferb123:

    Good question, and I believe that the number of independents has always been more or less consistent. About 30% of our population do not agree enough with either party to align with them on a consistent basis. They may very well agree with the GOP on economics, but find the social issues of equal import, and might very well feel the Democrats have the better appeal in those areas. That dynamic may be reversed, and it’s tough to get a real feel for how they’ll break as a group, because they are not any where near as homogeneous as the two major parties. There probably are a lot of Tea Party members, (tough to say, since there is not official role,) who are independent. From what I can see from the Tea Party groups though, is that they are not really fans of either major party, even those who consider themselves to be Republicans. They are pissed, and mostly pissed with voting for people who promise to cut spending and stop the graft and then seeing the same old nonsense continue. I do not know where this will lead, but if Romney gets elected, and does not follow up on his promises, the Tea Party will work hard to get him defeated in 2016.


  71. ferb123
    71 | October 18, 2012 5:50 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    ferb123 wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Gumbey must be getting paid overtime. I am glad we are on the DNC’s radar.
    yeah sure, big brother is watching you. XDDDDDDDDDDDD
    Again I am not Gumbey and I am not from DNC.

    To quote Joe Wilson…. You LIE….

    I dont lie. There is no reason why I should lie about the “Gumbey thing”, or isnt it?
    Who is Gumbey?


  72. lobo91
    72 | October 18, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ ferb123:

    Just one question. Do you think the large increase of independent voters can origin from Tea Party members ( of course they vote for Romney) who consider themself as independent voters?

    The biggest change in party ID among voters is the trend away from Democrats.


  73. unclassifiable
    73 | October 18, 2012 5:56 pm

    Have y’all seen this?

    Mitt, please make Dennis your press secretary at least for a year.

    If he MNF’s then you can fire him.


  74. lobo91
    74 | October 18, 2012 5:56 pm

    Women in Swing States Have Gender-Specific Priorities

    Women in the 12 key swing states have starkly different responses from men when asked in an open-ended format to name the most important issues for their gender in the 2012 election. A plurality of female registered voters offered abortion (39%) as the most important issue for women, followed by jobs, healthcare, the economy, and equal rights. In contrast, men see jobs (38%) and the economy (37%) as the two most important issues facing men.

    WTF?


  75. unclassifiable
    75 | October 18, 2012 5:58 pm

    @ lobo91:
    WTF^2


  76. 76 | October 18, 2012 6:01 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Reading those responses, and it is no where near good news for Obama. Several of the categories should be added into one, and what it ultimately shows is that women in swing states will break about 50/50, just like the national average as a whole. If this is the case, that represents the end of Hopety-Change.

    By the way, Susquehanna just published and removed a poll that showed Romney actually leading in Pennsylvania. If that’s the case, done.


  77. lobo91
    77 | October 18, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    My first thought upon seeing that was that if it’s accurate, maybe we should re-think that whole women voting thing.

    How the hell can a completely made-up issue be their top priority?


  78. Eliana
    78 | October 18, 2012 6:03 pm

    Jon Stewart: “Is part of the investigation helping the communication between these divisions? Not just what happened in Benghazi, but what happened within. Because I would say, even you would admit, it was not the optimal response, at least to the American people, as far as all of us being on the same page.”

    POTUS: “Here’s what I’ll say. If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal. We’re going to fix it. All of it. And what happens, during the course of a presidency, is that the government is a big operation and any given time something screws up. And you make sure that you find out what’s broken and you fix it. Whatever else I have done throughout the course of my presidency the one thing that I’ve been absolutely clear about is that America’s security comes, and the American people need to know exactly how I make decisions when it comes to war, peace, security, and protecting Americans. And they will continue to get that over the next four years of my presidency.”

    American deaths are “not optimal”?

    He’ll fix them?

    Obama: Benghazi Murders ‘Not Optimal’


  79. RIX
    79 | October 18, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    From what I have observed about the Tea Party, they are tired
    of always being handed the bill.
    Worse they see the future of their children & grandchildren having their
    futures mortgaged.
    When they object they are smeared as greedy & racist and they
    won’t take it anymore.


  80. lobo91
    80 | October 18, 2012 6:06 pm

    More brilliance from Biden:

    Biden tells crowd: Republicans have ‘bullets … aimed at you’

    Vice President Biden lit into Paul Ryan with a violent analogy during his campaign stop Thursday in Las Vegas.

    “Ryan has written a book called ‘The Young Guns’ with two other members of the House … Republican leaders in the House,” the vice president said. “You had, unfortunately, the bullets are aimed at you.”


  81. lobo91
    81 | October 18, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ Eliana:

    American deaths are “not optimal”?

    He’ll fix them?

    Well, he has had more than a few people treat him like he’s some sort of divine being…
    //


  82. unclassifiable
    82 | October 18, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ RIX:

    A lot (do not know percentages) are out of the Tea Party if Mitt is elected. They were in it to get Obama out and try to get favorable Congressional majorities. They will be for the GOP this year but after that who knows.


  83. 83 | October 18, 2012 6:08 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Remember, the recession hit men harder than women.

    I consider myself an independent, in that I have never registered with a political party. But it has been a very long time (1976) since I last pulled the lever (literally true back then) for a Democratic candidate, because what happened next taught me a lesson I’ll never forget. Live and learn…


  84. lobo91
    84 | October 18, 2012 6:14 pm

    Maybe someone reprogrammed his teleprompter to an earlier version?

    Al Qaeda on the path to defeat’ back in Obama stump speech

    A line about Al Qaeda being on the run is back in President Obama’s stump speech, after the president — briefly, and without explanation — stopped using it.

    The president told a crowd in New Hampshire Thursday that pursuing Al Qaeda was one of his campaign promises kept from 2008.

    “Now, I made some commitments four years ago. I told you I’d end the war in Iraq — and we did. I said we’d end the war in Afghanistan — we are. I said we’d refocus on the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11 — and we have,” Obama said.

    “And today, a new tower rises above the New York skyline, and Al Qaeda is on the path to defeat, and Usama bin Laden is dead.”

    But a day before, that crucial mention of sending Al Qaeda packing was nowhere to be found in the president’s stump speech. He skipped the line at a rally in Mount Vernon, Iowa, and again at a campaign event in Athens, Ohio.


  85. unclassifiable
    85 | October 18, 2012 6:18 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That will play well in Dearbornistan.


  86. lobo91
    86 | October 18, 2012 6:19 pm

    More of that famous Obama “bi-partisanship”

    Romney camp slams Obama over ‘fiscal cliff’ veto threat, lack of contact with Boehner

    The White House confirmed Thursday that President Obama is prepared to veto legislation that would skirt the so-called “fiscal cliff” — a battery of tax hikes and spending cuts — unless Republicans consent to raise taxes on top earners.

    The move drew renewed accusations from rival Mitt Romney that the president has chosen to “simply ignore” Republicans on the Hill instead of dealing with the problem. According to one account, Obama hasn’t so much as spoken with House Speaker John Boehner since July.

    The fresh reports have suddenly woven the “fiscal cliff” emergency back into the campaign debate in the closing weeks of the race. Congress is preparing to take up the issue in the post-election, lame-duck session, but with lawmakers on recess and the president on the campaign trail little is expected to be accomplished until then.


  87. Eliana
    87 | October 18, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Obama’s advisers and closest fans keep telling him to be aggressive, hostile and rude (because it gives them tingles).

    This behavior doesn’t seem to be helping him with the voters, though.


  88. lobo91
    88 | October 18, 2012 6:28 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Obama’s advisers and closest fans keep telling him to be aggressive, hostile and rude

    Except to our enemies…


  89. Eliana
    89 | October 18, 2012 6:30 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Except to our enemies…

    He bows to them instead.


  90. huckfunn
    90 | October 18, 2012 6:40 pm

    Devastating new American Crossroads ad:


  91. unclassifiable
    91 | October 18, 2012 6:49 pm

    Here is the main assessment.

    With Romney’s campaign, Americans are seeing a way to oppose this sorry President.

    He needs to keep it up. Hopefully John Bolton will help prep him for the next debate.


  92. 92 | October 18, 2012 6:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    This is starting to look like Watergate.

    Are you kidding -- the criminal enterprise known as the Obama Administration makes Watergate look like an inept band of teenage shoplifters at the Rite Aid makeup aisle.


  93. unclassifiable
    93 | October 18, 2012 6:54 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    G. Gordon Liddy was the only one to offer to off himself (didn’t do it). Four people killed and another projection of weakness in the midst of our enemies. Crap, Watergate doesn’t even rate.


  94. unclassifiable
    94 | October 18, 2012 6:55 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    Not to mention the nice sideways slap at the First Amendment.


  95. 95 | October 18, 2012 6:58 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    No one died in Watergate.


  96. Lily
    96 | October 18, 2012 6:58 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    Uh oh… Seems someone has some ‘splaing to do…

    After the Clinton legal team had a chance to review the State Department cable traffic between Benghazi and Washington, the experts came to the conclusion that the cables proved that Hillary had in fact given specific instructions to beef up security in Libya, and that if those orders had been carried out — which they weren’t — they could conceivably have avoided the tragedy.

    Clearly, someone in the Obama administration dropped the ball — and the president was still insisting that it was not his fault.

    Hillary had in fact given instructions for beefed up security? I figured with Hillary throwing herself on her sword would in fact actually blow the lid off what happened in Benghazi instead of what the obama administration in their haste to put the blame somewhere else, would backfire on them. Susan Rice also doesn’t answer to Hillary so it wasn’t her that sent Rice out to lie at all the news networks…this came straight from the oval office. I hope it continues to blow up in obama’s face…at least then the 4 dead Americans will have some justice. Because obama owns this with every fiber in his body.


  97. 97 | October 18, 2012 6:58 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    It’s telling that I have met lots and lots of people who voted for Obama in 2008 that will be voting for Romney this time.

    Except for Doofus the Dick at the bar across the street and his merry morons, I haven’t encountered anyone who voted for McCain in 2008 but will be voting Obama this time. (and that’s assuming that DD and the MM voted for McCain -- I wouldn’t bet the farm on that)


  98. huckfunn
    98 | October 18, 2012 7:02 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    By the way, Susquehanna just published and removed a poll that showed Romney actually leading in Pennsylvania. If that’s the case, done.

    Here’s the story. Poll shows Romney leading in blue Pennsylvania

    Susquehanna Polling and Research provided The Washington Examiner with a poll it conducted for state party officials that shows Romney with a 49 percent to 45 percent lead over President Obama.


  99. 99 | October 18, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    GMTA! I just did it as a headline.


  100. Lily
    100 | October 18, 2012 7:04 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Obama throws Hillary under the bus at his peril:

    “Governor Romney’s argument is, we’re not fixed, so fire him and put me in,” said Clinton. “It is true we’re not fixed. When President Obama looked into the eyes of that man who said in the debate, I had so much hope four years ago and I don’t now, I thought he was going to cry. Because he knows that it’s not fixed.”

    Say it again, Bill! So why did you agree to prop up this empty suit at the DNC?

    I was wondering when Bill would chime in. To me this has Jarrett’s and obama’s finger prints all over it. In their haste to deflect responibilty they had Hillary fall on her sword…but like someone said here a couple of days ago that sword went between her arm and side a slight of hand to look like she fell on it. And I agree why did Bill prop this loser up at the DNC convention? For what? He doesn’t like obama and obama doesn’t like him…for the Democratic Party? Was it worth it Bill?


  101. 101 | October 18, 2012 7:04 pm

    New Thread.


  102. Lily
    102 | October 18, 2012 7:07 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:

    So Hillary was waiting for the big guy to sign off on her orders and he didn’t get around to it?

    She was crying after the murders — sounds like some of it might have been frustration that the deaths could have been prevented if her orders had been followed.

    Hillary at least cared to some extent…but obama not so much. Why did Hillary blindly follow orders from him? Knowing she was going to step down…she had nothing to lose…Why? All her chances of being president in 2016 are gone simply from being in the obama administration. All up in smoke. Gone.


  103. Lily
    103 | October 18, 2012 7:08 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Eliana:

    Tears over her Presidential aspirations going “Poof!” I assure you, not over the dead. The woman has no more soul than a dead mackrel.

    True but compared to obama…well what can you say.


  104. Lily
    104 | October 18, 2012 7:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Women in Swing States Have Gender-Specific Priorities

    Women in the 12 key swing states have starkly different responses from men when asked in an open-ended format to name the most important issues for their gender in the 2012 election. A plurality of female registered voters offered abortion (39%) as the most important issue for women, followed by jobs, healthcare, the economy, and equal rights. In contrast, men see jobs (38%) and the economy (37%) as the two most important issues facing men.

    WTF?

    I don’t believe the most important issue for women is abortion. The media thinks it’s important for women …but women as a whole are more inclined to have food on the table and a roof over their head and a job if they are single/or single raising children. This issue about abortion is from the 1960′s that the democratic party seems to want to bring back..unfortunately among younger women abortion is more and more being frowned upon.


  105. Lily
    105 | October 18, 2012 7:36 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Obama’s advisers and closest fans keep telling him to be aggressive, hostile and rude (because it gives them tingles).

    This behavior doesn’t seem to be helping him with the voters, though.

    No matter how obama screws things up he and his campagin seemed to think more of the same is in order. They are completely out of touch with reality. They seem to double-down on the same but more aggressive…it isn’t working well.


  106. darkwords
    106 | October 18, 2012 7:36 pm

    @ 28 lobo91: Someone should ask her if she cares about Watergate?


  107. Eliana
    107 | October 18, 2012 7:40 pm

    @ Lily:

    MSNBC’s Mr. Tingle said that Obama turned into a hero at the most recent debate.

    They’ve wound themselves up to the point where they think Romney and all those who support him are monsters like the ones who burst out of the chests of people in the “Alien” movies.

    So Obama was a “hero” for standing up and saying something to Romney.

    Liberals are pathetic.


  108. Lily
    108 | October 18, 2012 7:41 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Natural protest over the outrage over the video. Really????????
    /so it is natural for them to kill our Ambassador and 3 other people because the video (which hardly anybody has seen and has been on the internet since July) is much worse than the murdering of 4 people.
    /do I have the obama’s talking points down. Unfreaking believable.

    This is a good ad…going to leave a mark I hope.


  109. darkwords
    109 | October 18, 2012 7:43 pm

    @ 74 lobo91: That might be true. I have a lib dem woman friend who get hysterical when people want to limit partial birth abortions. Even if it would never happen. She would rather see the country go down in economic flames than carry a kid to term and give it up for adoption. The cost is personally too high for her. To me it is the soft bigotry of the left.


  110. lobo91
    110 | October 18, 2012 7:44 pm

    @ Eliana:

    I caught a few minutes of Sean Hannity’s radio show earlier. He played a clip of Matthews interviewing somebody or other who basically implied that Romney was a racist for the way he talked to Obama during the debate, and that he never would have done that to a white president.


  111. Lily
    111 | October 18, 2012 7:45 pm

    @ Eliana:

    No kidding.


  112. lobo91
    112 | October 18, 2012 7:46 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 74 lobo91: That might be true. I have a lib dem woman friend who get hysterical when people want to limit partial birth abortions. Even if it would never happen. She would rather see the country go down in economic flames than carry a kid to term and give it up for adoption. The cost is personally too high for her. To me it is the soft bigotry of the left.

    That’s the natural result of a generation raised with no concept of personal responsibiity.


  113. Lily
    113 | October 18, 2012 7:47 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Even the libs in my family don’t rate abortion as a leading factor.
    /especially partial-birth abortions. My family leans very lefty too.


  114. Eliana
    114 | October 18, 2012 7:54 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I caught a few minutes of Sean Hannity’s radio show earlier. He played a clip of Matthews interviewing somebody or other who basically implied that Romney was a racist for the way he talked to Obama during the debate, and that he never would have done that to a white president.

    Liberals called Bush a chimp for 8 years.

    Now Mr. Tingle is complaining about a tone of voice towards Obama?

    Pathetic.


  115. lobo91
    115 | October 18, 2012 7:59 pm

    @ Eliana:

    He apparently wasn’t sufficiently “deferential” to Obama.


  116. Eliana
    116 | October 18, 2012 8:24 pm

    @ lobo91:

    No leg tingle for Bambi in the debate is a travesty in Mr. Tingle’s eyes.


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