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Putting the pieces together on the Benghazi fiasco

by 1389AD ( 174 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Libya, Muslim Brotherhood, Syria at October 23rd, 2012 - 6:57 pm

It was all about funneling heavy weapons and personnel to our jihadi enemies.

Fox News: ‘Annex’ hit in Libya terror attack was CIA post, officials say

(h/t: lobo91)

The Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi targeted more than just a State Department consulate. One of the buildings hit was a covert CIA installation, U.S. officials told Fox News.

The now-abandoned American consulate in Benghazi was set a little more than a mile away from the CIA base. Up to this point, that separate base was described by administration officials only as a “safe house” or “annex” to the nearby consulate. In reality, CIA agents and other intelligence officials were operating out of Benghazi conducting delicate missions, including the search for over 20,000 deadly shoulder-fired missiles previously owned by Muammar Qaddafi’s Libyan forces.

The work they conducted to seize those deadly weapons, known as MANPADS, was part of a broader and public effort by the State Department to secure them. The major concern is those weapons could be used to bring down a commercial jet.

These officials added that the number of CIA operatives in Benghazi clearly outnumbered that of the diplomatic staff. It took two military cargo aircraft to lift everyone out of Benghazi when the fighting was over.

Both the CIA outpost and the consulate were attacked on Sept. 11. Two of the men killed, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, were hit by indirect fire while defending the intelligence post, not the consulate.

More here.

Daniel Greenfield: The Real Difference Between Islamic Extremists and Moderates

There were eras in human history whose great challenges lay in isolating chemical compounds, unlocking the structures of human genetic material and examining the hearts of dying stars. But the great challenge of our time is telling apart Muslim moderates and Muslim extremists.

Fly to Tripoli International Airport, take the Airport Highway into Tripoli, drive along the coast through all those towns and cities you heard about on the radio when the announcers were excitedly describing battles between the brave Libyan rebels and the despicable forces of the despot; Homs, Misrata, Sirte. Drive through the night while hugging the Mediterranean coastline until you reach Benghazi.

Benghazi is the city on whose behalf we went to war against Gaddafi. The imminent peril to Benghazi was the reason that Obama gave for the conflict. “We struck regime forces approaching Benghazi to save that city and the people within it,” he declared proudly. But the firepower that proved so potent in displacing and dismantling the Gaddafi regime could not protect Ambassador Stevens and the American consulate.

The Benghazi consulate’s own security forces had been stripped down to their bare essentials. Inside the compound, in their own barracks, were members of the February 17 Martyrs Brigade who were tasked with providing security for the consulate. The February 17 Martyrs Brigade is an Islamist militia affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. The attackers firing off RPGs into the compound were members of Ansar Al Sharia, a spinoff of the February 17 Martyrs Brigade, associated with Al Qaeda.

On diplomatic paper the moderate February 17 Martyrs Brigade and the extremist Ansar Al-Sharia had nothing in common. In reality, the differences between the two militias were mostly cosmetic and the Martyrs Brigade had been contacted ahead of time by an Al Qaeda politician and asked to stand down while the attack took place.

A month later and a thousand miles away, the moderate Free Syrian Army and the extremist Al Nusra Front captured a missile base in Syria. The base was stocked with the rather popular S-75 SAMs which may be a bit dated, but had still managed to shoot down an F-111 over Libya back in 1981 and would make short work of most commercial airliners.

The Free Syrian Army is the force that almost everyone agrees we should be supporting. They are almost certainly the fighters that Obama is conveying weapons and trainers to. And the Treasury Department approved a license to provide direct financial assistance to the FSA. The Al Nusra Front however is linked to Al Qaeda and waves the black flag of the Caliphate. It considers the United States an enemy of Islam.

The rebel spokesman for the local franchise of the Brave Syrian People ™ explained, “We don’t distinguish between the groups Al Nusra and the other militias, as long as everyone is working toward one goal of ousting the regime.” Our beloved moderates were making no distinction between themselves and the extremists. By helping the Free Syrian Army, we were really helping Al Qaeda.

The missile base attack was not the first time that the Free Syrian Army and the Al Nusra Front had worked together. The exploits of the Free Syrian Army were often actually the work of the experienced Jihadi fighters of Al Nusra. When gullible Westerners thought they were applauding the daring acts of freedom fighters, they were actually cheering the fanatical murderous frenzy of their own enemies.

The S-75s of Aleppo won’t pose much of a threat to us because the Syrian Air Force promptly swooped in and blew the missile base to bits, thereby probably saving a few hundred or a few thousand American lives—not that they did it for that reason. The real mission of the FSA and Al Nusra however had been to dismantle Syrian air defenses on its northern border clearing the way for a Turkish invasion of Syria…

More here.

Clare Lopez: Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up

The day after the big Obama-Romney debate, as media and politicians were engaging in the usual after-action assessment frenzy, some of the most important issues surrounding the September 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, remain unaddressed.

While it clearly matters (a lot) if and when the President told the truth to the American public about the terrorist nature of that attack and why the Department of State refused repeated pleas from its own diplomats in Libya for more and better security, the deeper, unaddressed issue is about the relationship of the U.S. government, Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya with Al Qaeda.

During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.

Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one that’s not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011.

Although Belhadj reportedly now has moved on to Syria to help lead the fight against the Assad regime being waged by the Syrian Free Army (SFA), other Libyan fighters, who were formerly members of his LIFG and other Al Qaeda affiliates formed a new terror militia in Libya (and elsewhere) called Ansar al-Shariah (Supporters of Sharia/Islamic Law).

According to an August, 2012 report from the Library of Congress and the Kronos organization, “Al-Qaeda in Libya: A Profile,” Ansar al-Shariah is an Al Qaeda franchise operation, established in Libya with the assistance of senior Al Qaeda operatives dispatched from Pakistan specifically to supervise the set up of a new clandestine Al Qaeda network in Libya that would refrain from using the Al Qaeda name.

The Derna, Libya Ansar al-Shariah cell is led by a former GITMO detainee named Sufian Ben Qhumu. The September 11, 2012 attack on the Benghazi consulate compound that killed Ambassador Stevens, his staffer Sean Smith and the two Navy SEALs was directed and led by Ansar al-Shariah.

One of the key unanswered, even unasked, questions about the U.S. and Ambassador Stevens relationship with Abdelhakim Belhadj concerns not so much the 2011 period of the Libyan revolt, but rather what followed. Was Ambassador Stevens still in touch with Belhadj and/or other Al Qaeda-linked figures even after Belhadj traveled to Istanbul, Turkey, in November, 2011 to make contact with the Syrian Free Army?

According to August, 2012 reports leaked to the media, sometime earlier in 2012, President Obama signed an intelligence finding to permit the CIA and other US government agencies to provide support to the Syrian rebels, whose ranks are reported to be dominated by Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and other jihadist fighters who already are supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and other jihadist regimes. Was Belhadj a conduit for U.S. support, perhaps via Turkey?

It might be recalled that, according to the Department of State’s transcript of a October 9, 2012 telephone conference call held to brief reporters on what happened in Benghazi, the final meeting that Ambassador Stevens held the night of September 11, 2012 before the attack began was with a Turkish diplomat.

Was that the meeting that was so important that the ambassador felt compelled to slip into Al Qaeda-held Benghazi on the anniversary of the original 9/11 attacks, knowing that Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri had called for revenge for the killing of his Libyan deputy, Abu Yahya al-Libi, concerned that he might have been on an Al Qaeda hit list and fully aware that he was terribly exposed with completely inadequate security? Was Ambassador Stevens directing a weapons pipeline from Libya to the Syrian rebels with Turkish assistance?

As noted by at least one observant blogger, two buildings appear on the overhead image of the Benghazi consular compound that may be viewed behind State Department official Charlene Lamb during her October 10, 2012 Congressional testimony but were not mentioned at all in the October 9, 2012 briefing mentioned above. Might these two warehouse-like buildings be storage facilities for Libyan weapons either bought back or otherwise collected prior to onward shipment?

The New York Times reported in July, 2012 that CIA officers were operating out of southern Turkey to help channel weapons to fighters supposedly not allied with Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups. In a October 14 piece, though, the Times asserted flatly that “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups…” And while U.S. officials continue to stick to claims that they are not providing arms directly to the Syrian rebels, but only channeling weapons that come from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, reports that those rebels now have surface-to-air missiles call to mind the thousands of such weapons looted from Muammar Qaddafi’s stockpiles during and after the revolt that ousted him in October 2011.

More here.

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The take-home lesson? Muslim governments and Muslim military forces are what they are. Help them out and they will immediately bite the hand that feeds them.


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174 Responses to “Putting the pieces together on the Benghazi fiasco”
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  1. song_and_dance_man
    1 | October 23, 2012 6:58 pm

    Let me be the first to say first.


  2. song_and_dance_man
    2 | October 23, 2012 6:59 pm

    Chair is culpable on so many levels. Kevin Bacon has no answer to the degrees this dude has.


  3. song_and_dance_man
    3 | October 23, 2012 7:03 pm

    Watching vid of the candidates today. Chair is worried. I can see it.


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | October 23, 2012 7:15 pm

    this weapon type has already left libya and is now in the hands of la-queda in syria.

    Indeed, when the civil war in Syria was only gaining momentum, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia were said to be granting all sorts of assistance to the Syrian opposition forces, from supplying with arms to training troops. The US and several other nations, on the other hand, reportedly had intelligence staff on the ground trying to orchestrate the uprising.

    But as soon as it became clear that the revolution in the Arab country was attracting radical and terrorist elements from the entire region, the thrill around the pro-democracy movement in Syria somewhat cooled down and official support was refocused to humanitarian needs. US officials now say that private smuggling and arms procurement networks are the main channels for the Syrian rebels to get their arms supplies.

    Reports from opposition forces seem to confirm this. Rebels tell the WSJ that most of Manpads come from post-Gaddafi Libya, smuggled into Syria through the Turkish border, without any approval from Turkish authorities. Strela systems seem to have arrived the same way, though some Syrian military defectors also claim they have purchased SA-7s from own regime forces.

    Where those weapons end up remains an open question. In Russia, these concerns have also struck a chord.

    “We must pay attention to those who are supplying weapons to Syria now especially if it is done illegally,” says Russia’s Vice-PM Dmitry Rogozin. “Putting out fires with petrol is not the best solution.”

    Rogozin warned that if the practice continues the Arab Spring will be followed by “a hot Arab Summer, which no one will like.”

    just like the russian foreign minister tried to tell us a year ago.


  5. lobo91
    5 | October 23, 2012 7:19 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    You mean they didn’t buy them at gun shows in the US?
    //


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | October 23, 2012 7:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    You mean they didn’t buy them at gun shows in the US?
    //

    sssshhhhhh…….

    :lol:


  7. 7 | October 23, 2012 7:30 pm

    It is extremely unfortunate that Romney hasn’t read up on the facts about the Syrian rebels.

    As in, “voting for Gary Johnson” unfortunate.


  8. 8 | October 23, 2012 7:31 pm

    eesh, html fail.


  9. 9 | October 23, 2012 7:34 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    Where did you intend for the bold tag to end?


  10. Lily
    10 | October 23, 2012 7:36 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    I don’t know…in the VP debate Paul Ryan did mention that the rebels now fighting in Syria were terrorists and the window of opportunity to actually help the real people of Syria who were rising up against the regime had closed under obama’s watch…and now it is basically jihadist’s that were streaming into Syria now.


  11. Lily
    11 | October 23, 2012 7:41 pm

    In the Foreign Policy Debate last night Romney didn’t have time to go into everything concerning everything going on in the world…I do believe that he is aware that the middle east is more dangerous under obama’s watch than ever before.
    Hence the reason Romney repeatedly brought up the fact of increasing our military and shoring it up….not slashing it like obama has plans for it in January.
    So I do believe Romney has some grasp on what is going on..especially after he visited Bibi in Israel I am sure Romney got an earful there.


  12. buzzsawmonkey
    12 | October 23, 2012 7:47 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    As in, “voting for Gary Johnson” unfortunate.

    Romney may or may not have a clue about the Syrian insurgents.

    If he doesn’t, there is a chance he can be wised up in office. There is no chance that Obama will wise up—he supports them for reasons that are not subject to change.

    Even if Romney were as clueless about the Syrian insurgents as many rightly fear, he will be a better President than the one we have now—and any vote for anyone else is a vote for more Obama.


  13. 13 | October 23, 2012 7:49 pm

    @ Lily:

    I believe Romney and Netanyahu had a real heart-to-heart talk when he was there. It must have pained Romney to have learned just how traitorous أوباما is not just to the People of the United States and the People of Israel, but all Freedom-Loving People everywhere.


  14. Da_Beerfreak
    14 | October 23, 2012 7:53 pm

    The only people better off today than they were four years ago are America’s enemies. :evil:


  15. lobo91
    15 | October 23, 2012 7:57 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The only people better off today than they were four years ago are America’s enemies.

    Foreign and domestic.


  16. Lily
    16 | October 23, 2012 7:58 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Zimriel wrote:

    As in, “voting for Gary Johnson” unfortunate.

    Romney may or may not have a clue about the Syrian insurgents.

    If he doesn’t, there is a chance he can be wised up in office. There is no chance that Obama will wise up—he supports them for reasons that are not subject to change.

    Even if Romney were as clueless about the Syrian insurgents as many rightly fear, he will be a better President than the one we have now—and any vote for anyone else is a vote for more Obama.

    I honestly do not think he is clueless concerning the Syrian insurgents…it’s in my opinion a baseless fear. At least Romney calls them Islamist terrorists…but obama can’t say terrorism …says a whole lot. Not to mention if Romney becomes our next president he will be privy to a lot of information he isn’t privy to now. Plus I cannot imagine after talking to Bibi that he doesn’t have some grasp on what is going on in Syria.


  17. Lily
    17 | October 23, 2012 8:00 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I believe Romney and Netanyahu had a real heart-to-heart talk when he was there. It must have pained Romney to have learned just how traitorous أوباما is not just to the People of the United States and the People of Israel, but all Freedom-Loving People everywhere.

    I’m sure it did and I am sure Romney actually listened to what Netanyahu had to say concerning what is going on in the middle east.


  18. 4_Sticks
    18 | October 23, 2012 8:03 pm

    So Trumps ‘big announcement’ (according to The Daily Mail) is that the Mooch wants off the gravy train ? Geeez, has this guy finally flipped his toupee ?

    Headline:

    “Donald Trump to reveal ‘divorce papers of Michelle and Barack Obama’, claims respected financial pundit”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama–claims-respected-financial-pundit.html

    That is all, over and out.


  19. buzzsawmonkey
    19 | October 23, 2012 8:04 pm

    As I said earlier, Romney was being quiet on foreign policy last night for two reasons:

    1) He wanted to put Obama off his game by not being combative, and by forcing Obama to agree that strength abroad is based on a strong economy at home, thereby forcing Obama to bring up his economic record and keeping that economic record before the voters;

    2) He wanted to play for the Honey Boo Boo “undecided” voters, and to do that he wasn’t going to discuss intricate policy, a bunch of Arab names, or the failures of Benghazi security. The Honey Boo Boos don’t follow that. He wanted to sound calm and competent and reassuring so that the Honey Boo Boos would feel comfortable voting for him.

    He did both those things beautifully.

    Romney’s trying to win an election, not score debate points. He’s a good man, and a much better man than we’ve got in the office now. Worry about the rest of the stuff later.


  20. rain of lead
    20 | October 23, 2012 8:05 pm

    hey ya’ll
    chikn n dumplns fer supper
    what ya’ll havin?


  21. buzzsawmonkey
    21 | October 23, 2012 8:05 pm

    @ 4_Sticks:

    Donald Trump should shut the fuck up and let Romney play his hand.


  22. rain of lead
    22 | October 23, 2012 8:09 pm

    obama’s firewll on fire

    Something was wrong with President Obama last night, to judge by his performance

    The campaign says internal polling gives Obama a lead in the Midwestern battleground state, in large part because of the popularity of the president’s bailout of the auto industry.

    But even if Obama loses Ohio, his campaign sees another pathway to the presidency by nailing New Hampshire, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nevada and Colorado.

    That the Obama camp is even talking about losing Ohio is a stunning turn of events.

    heh

    The first rule of Losing Ohio Club is you don’t talk about Losing Ohio Club


  23. 23 | October 23, 2012 8:09 pm

    @ 4_Sticks:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I heard some time ago that Мишель threatened to divorce Бара́к if he lost a State Senate election way back before he became a US Senator. Unless said papers concern an action in process?


  24. citizen_q
    24 | October 23, 2012 8:16 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The only people better off today than they were four years ago are America’s enemies.
    Foreign and domestic.

    And the obama’s, and many of obama’s friends and supporters such as unions.


  25. citizen_q
    25 | October 23, 2012 8:17 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    The only people better off today than they were four years ago are America’s enemies.
    Foreign and domestic.

    And the obama’s, and many of obama’s friends and supporters such as unions.

    Of course the the obama’s and their friends and supporters could very well simply be considered domestic enemies.


  26. rain of lead
    26 | October 23, 2012 8:18 pm

    lot of stuff lining up to be flung against the wall

    Gloria Allred might have something
    Trump might have something else as pushback
    then there is the story floating about that Obama was a coke DEALER

    may you live in interesting times indeed


  27. citizen_q
    27 | October 23, 2012 8:20 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    Sounds good. Me, large salad with tuna fish, maybe a pomegranate for desert.


  28. 4_Sticks
    28 | October 23, 2012 8:21 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yep. And by the way Buzz, sorry for disappearing the other day mid question. Wasn’t watching the clock and at this last minute realized I shoulda already left to pick up my son.
    I looked for ya here and there but this is the first I’ve seen you in a thread since …
    Just wanted to clear this up :-)


  29. rain of lead
    29 | October 23, 2012 8:23 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    good stuff

    heh
    my cat was hoping I would let him lick the bowl


  30. rain of lead
    30 | October 23, 2012 8:23 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    my dessert is gonna be another sam adams


  31. 4_Sticks
    31 | October 23, 2012 8:24 pm

    @ Macker:

    Who knows ? How reputible is The Dail Mail anyhow ?
    “Unknown source sez …”.


  32. citizen_q
    32 | October 23, 2012 8:28 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    Good beer!

    Pomegranates just came into season, and I have some in the fridge.

    Love them, but it is a project eating them.


  33. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | October 23, 2012 8:31 pm

    4_Sticks wrote:

    Yep. And by the way Buzz, sorry for disappearing the other day mid question. Wasn’t watching the clock and at this last minute realized I shoulda already left to pick up my son.
    I looked for ya here and there but this is the first I’ve seen you in a thread since …
    Just wanted to clear this up

    Oh, no worries—but thanks!


  34. rain of lead
    34 | October 23, 2012 8:31 pm

    bwahahahahahahaha

    Ohio Man Tells Off Biden at Diner: Enjoy ‘Last Couple of Months’

    Joe bellied up to the counter to order his pie and sat down next to a male voter who wasn’t so happy with the Obama administration. According to Politico’s Donovan Slack, the voter opened his conversation telling Joe he was “a good guy” but went on to tell him he hoped Joe would lose his bid for re-election.

    “Before that, I told him to enjoy his last couple of months,” the man, who declined to give his name, said. “Just because you’re a good guy doesn’t mean you’re a good vice president.”

    Slack noted that Biden sensibly took his pie to another table after the encounter with the soured voter.


  35. 35 | October 23, 2012 8:31 pm

    4_Sticks wrote:

    @ Macker:

    Who knows ? How reputible is The Dail Mail anyhow ?
    “Unknown source sez …”.

    Then again, there’s The Grauniad…. 8)


  36. 4_Sticks
    36 | October 23, 2012 8:32 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    “…that Obama was a coke DEALER”

    Heard that one too. If this is what teh donalds big headline is …
    Like anyone is going to care – even if they had video it wouldn’t matter – we learned with slick willy that a dem/lib POTUS can get away with just about anything but murder…and I wonder if THAT wouldn’t up his street cred with his base.
    At this late date, any old story ‘discovered !!!!’ is just gonna ring hollow. Besides, I already assumed he’s dealt a gram or two.

    BTW, I don’t capitalize names of people/institutions/enterprises I do not respect.
    Just in case someone felt the overwhelming urge to correct me :-)


  37. 37 | October 23, 2012 8:34 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    YAY!


  38. rain of lead
    38 | October 23, 2012 8:35 pm

    *blink**blink*
    AAAAhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahaha
    *wipes a tear*
    damn funny stuff in the news tonight

    Cocky Chris Matthews Dreams of Senate Fame: I’d Have Been a Democratic ‘Star’

    In an article for the November Philadelphia Style magazine, a cocky Chris Matthews wistfully recounted a considered 2010 run for Senate, bragging at how incredible he would have been: “I’m not dreaming here. I would be one of the stars of the Democratic Party—there aren’t that many.”

    The liberal MSNBC anchor flirted with, but ultimately decided against, running in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. Perhaps wondering what might have been, he lamented, “I know this: If I had run and won and beaten [Senator Pat] Toomey, I would be one of the Democrats people talk about today.” The Hardball host also took some disgruntled shots at Barack Obama.

    OMG coldwarrior would have flipped out

    bwahahahahahahahahah


  39. coldwarrior
    39 | October 23, 2012 8:36 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    hey ya’ll
    chikn n dumplns fer supper
    what ya’ll havin?

    we had a few pounds of crawdads and some cornbread with a side of dirty rice.


  40. 40 | October 23, 2012 8:37 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks:
    Donald Trump should shut the fuck up and let Romney play his hand.

    Trump has the green light from Romney to do this. The Obama Regime has Gloria Allred trying to dig dirt. This is Romney’s way of responding. They have Trump doing their dirty work. The Romney people are also behind the Obama was Coke dealer story as well.


  41. 41 | October 23, 2012 8:38 pm

    @ 4_Sticks:

    It helps chip away at the myth of Obama.


  42. coldwarrior
    42 | October 23, 2012 8:39 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    he would have lost in the primary.


  43. 43 | October 23, 2012 8:40 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    He’s had a nervous breakdown.


  44. 44 | October 23, 2012 8:41 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I’ll bet Обама reached for the CHOOOOOM! once the debate was over and he was off stage!


  45. buzzsawmonkey
    45 | October 23, 2012 8:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Trump has the green light from Romney to do this. The Obama Regime has Gloria Allred trying to dig dirt. This is Romney’s way of responding. They have Trump doing their dirty work. The Romney people are also behind the Obama was Coke dealer story as well.

    And you know this how?


  46. rain of lead
    46 | October 23, 2012 8:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    ooohhhh
    loves me some cajun food
    boudan on the grill with a clod beer is just this side of heaven


  47. coldwarrior
    47 | October 23, 2012 8:48 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    ooohhhh
    loves me some cajun food
    boudan on the grill with a clod beer is just this side of heaven

    our ‘package’ arrived from Louisiana today…

    yum!


  48. brookly red
    48 | October 23, 2012 8:48 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks:
    Donald Trump should shut the fuck up and let Romney play his hand.

    Trump has the green light from Romney to do this. The Obama Regime has Gloria Allred trying to dig dirt. This is Romney’s way of responding. They have Trump doing their dirty work. The Romney people are also behind the Obama was Coke dealer story as well.

    /I am sure it just a misunderstanding over the use of the word “blow”…


  49. 49 | October 23, 2012 8:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Gloria Allred threatens a October Surprise a few days ago. Now Trump comes out with his surprise. It’s not a coincidence and is a way for Romney to counter the Left’s dirt. Campaigns do this all the time.


  50. 50 | October 23, 2012 8:55 pm

    @ brookly red:

    That’s what I am thinking!


  51. rain of lead
    51 | October 23, 2012 8:56 pm

    @ Rodan:

    just glad R/R are playing to WIN!


  52. 52 | October 23, 2012 8:58 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    I have not seen a Republican ticket that actually fights back in my adult life. It’s a relief.


  53. Lily
    53 | October 23, 2012 8:59 pm

    Amazing these people don’t get arrested.

    Debate Triggers New Round Of Romney Assassination Threats…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/23/debate-triggers-new-round-of-romney-assassination-threats/


  54. rain of lead
    54 | October 23, 2012 8:59 pm

    like I said
    lots of funny stuff in the news tonight

    Obama Has Massive Lead in Global Poll

    It is not even close: In a world poll of the U.S. presidential race, President Barack Obama is the clear favorite over Governor Mitt Romney. By a margin of 50-9 percent, Obama is favored in the poll of 21,797 respondents in 21 countries around the world.

    hahahahahahahahahahah
    tough shit losers!


  55. rain of lead
    55 | October 23, 2012 9:00 pm

    @ Lily:

    hi Lily


  56. brookly red
    56 | October 23, 2012 9:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Gloria Allred threatens a October Surprise a few days ago. Now Trump comes out with his surprise. It’s not a coincidence and is a way for Romney to counter the Left’s dirt. Campaigns do this all the time.

    I for one don’t have a problem with it, the dems have been the school yard bully that never took a punch for too long… good to see them with the bloody nose and the wtf just happened look on their face.


  57. Lily
    57 | October 23, 2012 9:03 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Good heavens….why in the world would they want obama/they love him so much they can have him but they better remember he likes to live like a king off other peoples money…plus not to mention they CAN’T VOTE HERE…


  58. Lily
    58 | October 23, 2012 9:04 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Hi Rain! Hope you are doing well this evening. :)


  59. unclassifiable
    59 | October 23, 2012 9:11 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Sort of like heterosexuals supporting gay marriage.

    They want Americans to be as miserable as they are.


  60. 4_Sticks
    60 | October 23, 2012 9:12 pm

    The coke dealer bit goes back to ’08.

    I don’t know how they did it but the dems have set it up so whatever a lib/dem does its ok, even sounds/looks cool. The hypocrisy is sooo amazing that they have to be delusional to a person. I seriously can’t think of a thing, with in the bounds of reason, a lib can do that would turn off their base:

    Drug use – check
    Manslaughter – check
    Prostitution – check
    Infidelity -check
    Drunken debauchery – check
    Cowardice – check

    They get either sympathy, applauded or both for any/all the above and simultaneously rocket to ‘hero’/’rock star’ status – straight to the front of the class.

    There was a ‘Sopranos’ episode where ‘Bobby Baccalieri’ was paid by some kid who wanted to be a rap star, to shoot him in the leg so as to up his cred in the ‘rap’ community. I can almost see the day when …

    End here :-)


  61. brookly red
    61 | October 23, 2012 9:12 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    like I said
    lots of funny stuff in the news tonight

    Obama Has Massive Lead in Global Poll

    It is not even close: In a world poll of the U.S. presidential race, President Barack Obama is the clear favorite over Governor Mitt Romney. By a margin of 50-9 percent, Obama is favored in the poll of 21,797 respondents in 21 countries around the world.

    hahahahahahahahahahah
    tough shit losers!

    funny Obama has huge leads in the deceased voters block too…


  62. brookly red
    62 | October 23, 2012 9:14 pm

    4_Sticks wrote:

    Drug use — check
    Manslaughter — check
    Prostitution — check
    Infidelity -check
    Drunken debauchery — check
    Cowardice — check

    you forgot tax evasion — check


  63. rain of lead
    63 | October 23, 2012 9:14 pm

    @ Lily:

    doing well
    have you been to the real clear politics site where you can create
    your own electoral vote map? tis way fun

    mine had romney winning 35 states and 367 ec votes
    barky takes 15 and 171

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

    just click the create your own map button

    lotta fun


  64. 64 | October 23, 2012 9:17 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    like I said
    lots of funny stuff in the news tonight
    Obama Has Massive Lead in Global Poll
    It is not even close: In a world poll of the U.S. presidential race, President Barack Obama is the clear favorite over Governor Mitt Romney. By a margin of 50-9 percent, Obama is favored in the poll of 21,797 respondents in 21 countries around the world.
    hahahahahahahahahahah
    tough shit losers!

    Good thing we don’t let other nations imbeciles choose who our presidents will be.


  65. 4_Sticks
    65 | October 23, 2012 9:17 pm

    @ Lily:

    That jerk Lawrence ODonnell (sp?) better be on a Secret Service list somewhere …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK9DsRd2b8M

    what a freakin’ douche …


  66. darkwords
    66 | October 23, 2012 9:17 pm

    @ 54 rain of lead: That is just probably a huge list of people the American taxpayers are supporting overseas.


  67. 67 | October 23, 2012 9:18 pm

    Get off my lawn you damned rotten kids…. :twisted:


  68. 4_Sticks
    68 | October 23, 2012 9:20 pm

    @ Lily:

    Dang,, there I go again. Shouldn’t have reviewed the video again before commenting. Not very gentlemanly of me Lily… my apologies.


  69. darkwords
    69 | October 23, 2012 9:20 pm

    Voted for POTUS tonight. Straight R ticket for me this year. Usually I will vote a D here and there.

    Last minutes pitches by O bot friends were GWB had 8 years to break it, Give O 8 years to fix it.

    Or Romney is against pre existing conditions being insured. (That one actually has some staying power) I know some older people who prefer Obamacare because the pre existing condition policy gives them more life flexibility than what we currently have.


  70. Lily
    70 | October 23, 2012 9:21 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    I gave it 516 Romney and 26 obama….
    /you were too nice. 8-)


  71. huckfunn
    71 | October 23, 2012 9:21 pm

    Just now I’ve been re-watching some debate clips on Hannity and it is truly stunning that the President of the United States can simply spew lies for an hour and a half, knowing that the press will not challenge any of it. It’s just shocking and a complete departure from every presidential campaign that I’ve ever watched.


  72. brookly red
    72 | October 23, 2012 9:21 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:

    like I said
    lots of funny stuff in the news tonight
    Obama Has Massive Lead in Global Poll
    It is not even close: In a world poll of the U.S. presidential race, President Barack Obama is the clear favorite over Governor Mitt Romney. By a margin of 50-9 percent, Obama is favored in the poll of 21,797 respondents in 21 countries around the world.
    hahahahahahahahahahah
    tough shit losers!

    Good thing we don’t let other nations imbeciles choose who our presidents will be.

    well not so fast there Sparky, we still need to pass some voter ID laws now don’t we.


  73. Lily
    73 | October 23, 2012 9:24 pm

    @ 4_Sticks:

    No problem I found it rather odd since obama would never have considered serving in the military. ;)


  74. rain of lead
    74 | October 23, 2012 9:25 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    dang I like the way my girl thinks
    her map was blood red with Obama only getting 3 ec votes from Deleware and 3 votes fron DC

    hahahahahahahahaha


  75. 4_Sticks
    75 | October 23, 2012 9:26 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    LOL !!!

    I’m picturing the ‘world wide’ responders as the line at the toll booth in the movie ‘Blazing Saddles’ !!!


  76. darkwords
    76 | October 23, 2012 9:26 pm

    @ 4_Sticks: LD is afraid to criticize ISlam mormons are fair game all the time. muslims never.


  77. unclassifiable
    77 | October 23, 2012 9:26 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    It is really stunning that damn near half of the USA (+/- 5%) can’t figure that out.


  78. Lily
    78 | October 23, 2012 9:26 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Just now I’ve been re-watching some debate clips on Hannity and it is truly stunning that the President of the United States can simply spew lies for an hour and a half, knowing that the press will not challenge any of it. It’s just shocking and a complete departure from every presidential campaign that I’ve ever watched.

    That is what I said last night….lie, lie, lie…..and rambling and more lies…lies and rambling. Oh and “we have ships that go under water …… ” Daaaaammmmn. Who would have thunk it?


  79. brookly red
    79 | October 23, 2012 9:26 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks:

    No problem I found it rather odd since obama would never have considered serving in the military.

    well ours anyway…


  80. lobo91
    80 | October 23, 2012 9:27 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Voted for POTUS tonight. Straight R ticket for me this year. Usually I will vote a D here and there.

    I couldn’t have done that if I wanted to.

    The only Dems on my ballot were Obama and Biden.


  81. rain of lead
    81 | October 23, 2012 9:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ rain of lead:

    I gave it 516 Romney and 26 obama….
    /you were too nice.

    well it’s a known fact that girls are way meaner than guys are


  82. unclassifiable
    82 | October 23, 2012 9:28 pm

    @ 4_Sticks:

    Taggart has the notes.


  83. 83 | October 23, 2012 9:29 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks: LD is afraid to criticize ISlam mormons are fair game all the time. muslims never.

    Vote for the Mormon, not the Moron… :twisted:


  84. lobo91
    84 | October 23, 2012 9:30 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    well it’s a known fact that girls are way meaner than guys are

    Yup


  85. darkwords
    85 | October 23, 2012 9:30 pm

    @ 80 lobo91: I think i am just so disgusted with the DEms I might not ever vote for them again. lol. I think next election cycle I will be voting Tea Party or something like that.


  86. Lily
    86 | October 23, 2012 9:30 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ rain of lead:

    I gave it 516 Romney and 26 obama….
    /you were too nice.

    well it’s a known fact that girls are way meaner than guys are

    Sometimes! :lol: :lol: :lol:


  87. Lily
    87 | October 23, 2012 9:31 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ rain of lead:

    well it’s a known fact that girls are way meaner than guys are

    Yup

    lobo you too!!! Oh my! :lol: :lol: :lol:


  88. brookly red
    88 | October 23, 2012 9:32 pm

    Lily wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Just now I’ve been re-watching some debate clips on Hannity and it is truly stunning that the President of the United States can simply spew lies for an hour and a half, knowing that the press will not challenge any of it. It’s just shocking and a complete departure from every presidential campaign that I’ve ever watched.

    That is what I said last night….lie, lie, lie…..and rambling and more lies…lies and rambling. Oh and “we have ships that go under water …… ” Daaaaammmmn. Who would have thunk it?

    It is the mortgages under water that will sink obama… pun intended.


  89. huckfunn
    89 | October 23, 2012 9:33 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    @ Lily:
    I can no longer look at Obama on TV without shrieking “YOU GD LYING ASSHOLE”. I just can’t watch that crap anymore.


  90. Lily
    90 | October 23, 2012 9:35 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks:

    No problem I found it rather odd since obama would never have considered serving in the military.

    well ours anyway…

    I can’t imagine him serving in any military (you know he wears out easily and in the military they have that awful early rise thing not to mention anything before 10:00 am is no-go for him)…now as a treasonous spy who would give up sensitive intell to our enemies..yeah I see that.


  91. Lily
    91 | October 23, 2012 9:36 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ unclassifiable:
    @ Lily:
    I can no longer look at Obama on TV without shrieking “YOU GD LYING ASSHOLE”. I just can’t watch that crap anymore.

    I can’t stand the lying anymore either…I listened to him in the debates and was hollering over him …LIAR! I’m done listening to him.


  92. 92 | October 23, 2012 9:37 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Just now I’ve been re-watching some debate clips on Hannity and it is truly stunning that the President of the United States can simply spew lies for an hour and a half, knowing that the press will not challenge any of it. It’s just shocking and a complete departure from every presidential campaign that I’ve ever watched.

    This is what happens when the a person (Obama) is used to getting away with anything.


  93. Lily
    93 | October 23, 2012 9:38 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Just now I’ve been re-watching some debate clips on Hannity and it is truly stunning that the President of the United States can simply spew lies for an hour and a half, knowing that the press will not challenge any of it. It’s just shocking and a complete departure from every presidential campaign that I’ve ever watched.

    That is what I said last night….lie, lie, lie…..and rambling and more lies…lies and rambling. Oh and “we have ships that go under water …… ” Daaaaammmmn. Who would have thunk it?

    It is the mortgages under water that will sink obama… pun intended.

    True…he was confused …when isn’t he confused? He just pulls crap straight out of thin air at times.


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    94 | October 23, 2012 9:38 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    I know some older people who prefer Obamacare because the pre existing condition policy gives them more life flexibility than what we currently have.

    Obamacare does not exist: it is a promise, for which we are already being taxed without one scrap of benefit and for which we will not be able to pay. Therefore, anything it promises about pre-existing conditions cannot be considered real—and, given that all of Obama’s promises that actually benefit anyone other than his cronies do not come true, only his promises of misery (like bankrupting the coal industry and shutting coal-fired plants) come true, anyone who believes the promises of “Obamacare” are kidding themselves.


  95. Lily
    95 | October 23, 2012 9:39 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks: LD is afraid to criticize ISlam mormons are fair game all the time. muslims never.

    Vote for the Mormon, not the Moron…

    Very catchy…I like it. 8-)


  96. lobo91
    96 | October 23, 2012 9:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ rain of lead:

    well it’s a known fact that girls are way meaner than guys are

    Yup

    lobo you too!!! Oh my!

    Leia is the exception


  97. huckfunn
    97 | October 23, 2012 9:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    This is what happens when the a person (Obama) is used to getting away with anything.

    And totally enabled, encouraged and protected by the press. One of the good things that will come of Romney’s election will be that the perfidy of the press will be totally exposed and defined. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells will understand that the MSM has totally has betrayed this country. They are the enemy.


  98. Lily
    98 | October 23, 2012 9:41 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    I know some older people who prefer Obamacare because the pre existing condition policy gives them more life flexibility than what we currently have.

    Obamacare does not exist: it is a promise, for which we are already being taxed without one scrap of benefit and for which we will not be able to pay. Therefore, anything it promises about pre-existing conditions cannot be considered real—and, given that all of Obama’s promises that actually benefit anyone other than his cronies do not come true, only his promises of misery (like bankrupting the coal industry and shutting coal-fired plants) come true, anyone who believes the promises of “Obamacare” are kidding themselves.

    No kidding….all obamacare will bring is more misery…they need to read the damn thing. Plus they need to ask themselves why are so many IRS agents involved in it.


  99. brookly red
    99 | October 23, 2012 9:43 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    I know some older people who prefer Obamacare because the pre existing condition policy gives them more life flexibility than what we currently have.

    Obamacare does not exist: it is a promise, for which we are already being taxed without one scrap of benefit and for which we will not be able to pay. Therefore, anything it promises about pre-existing conditions cannot be considered real—and, given that all of Obama’s promises that actually benefit anyone other than his cronies do not come true, only his promises of misery (like bankrupting the coal industry and shutting coal-fired plants) come true, anyone who believes the promises of “Obamacare” are kidding themselves.

    I would insert the f word here


  100. buzzsawmonkey
    100 | October 23, 2012 9:44 pm

    “Obamacare” was the Choom Gang’s bribe to America to guarantee a second term for themselves to wreak havoc on this nation.

    That is all it is, and all it ever was—bribing America with a promise while stealing its money for themselves while they ravaged the country and poured it down the drain.


  101. unclassifiable
    101 | October 23, 2012 9:44 pm

    @ Lily:

    That is precisely why an awful lot of people think that if the jackasses believe his bullshit then they can live with it and just get them or us way the way the hell away from each other in another country.

    I have a plan.

    If Obama is elected I (once again) propose totally free immigration to and from Mexico. Barack and his ass-lamprey sycophants will have all of legal immigrants they want and we will have a majority in which to reshape Mexico.


  102. Lily
    102 | October 23, 2012 9:46 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    This is what happens when the a person (Obama) is used to getting away with anything.

    And totally enabled, encouraged and protected by the press. One of the good things that will come of Romney’s election will be that the perfidy of the press will be totally exposed and defined. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells will understand that the MSM has totally has betrayed this country. They are the enemy.

    I’m seeing it in my local paper..the people are writing letters to the editor about the AP articles and how biased they are…they want to know why the paper is printing this articles in the paper…they are nothing but lies. One person said in a letter to the editor, “If you want the real news go online and get the real news that you can even double-check because what the paper is putting out is nothing but lies by the AP” That was in Monday’s paper. Sunday when most of the letters to the editor are given a whole page they filled it with politcal cartoons an a letter from a 7th Grader…I went what in the world?


  103. 4_Sticks
    103 | October 23, 2012 9:50 pm

    @ darkwords:

    What I’m finding amazing is that the lib left are bringing up Romneys deferments and criticizing him as a ‘coward’ for having taken them. Having grown up during the ‘Nam era, I remember clearly that libs thought it was a kids duty to either burn the draft card or join the piss corps. to avoid killing … well, not even gonna repeat their treasonous psycho babel here, but you probably get my drift … anyhow, even after acknowledging his reinstatement in the draft lottery in ’70. He may have missed Tet but ’70 wasn’t exactly the last weeks/months of that war. His number, like mine, was in the 300s which made the odds of him getting called up lower than most. But still, he didn’t burn his draft card and worked for a more ‘peaceful’ can’t we all just get along ?’ kinda world during his missionary years but today, apparently, this is a BAD thing ! They are so deranged – this O’Donnell jerk (see above youtube link) should be the poster boy for the ‘Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder’ foundation. My head is spinning ….


  104. Lily
    104 | October 23, 2012 9:50 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    There is no place to go. Mexico is basically in a civil war.
    We are the last free beacon of light we can’t let it go out.


  105. buzzsawmonkey
    105 | October 23, 2012 9:51 pm

    Obamacare has already increased my premiums by 50%—to the point I had to downgrade coverage so I could afford it. Lots of small businesses are dumping their employee plans, preferring to pay the fines over maintaining coverage. Doctors are talking about leaving the profession—but the government is going to hire thousands of additional IRS agents to pursue people who might be delinquent.

    The Obamacare bill was an omnibus bill chock full of earmarks and unrelated things like student loans; it was the pork bill to end all pork bills, passed by bribing and bullying even the Democrats.

    There has been so much in this election season that we forget what a nightmare that Big Domestic Legacy of Obama’s actually is; it is not just a turd in the punchbowl, but a giant honking void of diarrhea.


  106. brookly red
    106 | October 23, 2012 9:52 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Lily:

    That is precisely why an awful lot of people think that if the jackasses believe his bullshit then they can live with it and just get them or us way the way the hell away from each other in another country.

    I have a plan.

    If Obama is elected I (once again) propose totally free immigration to and from Mexico. Barack and his ass-lamprey sycophants will have all of legal immigrants they want and we will have a majority in which to reshape Mexico.

    uh let me think about that… OK, no.


  107. brookly red
    107 | October 23, 2012 9:55 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ unclassifiable:

    There is no place to go. Mexico is basically in a civil war.
    We are the last free beacon of light we can’t let it go out.

    Thus is God’s calling.


  108. Lily
    108 | October 23, 2012 9:55 pm

    @ brookly red:

    My thoughts too…Mexico nah…not a safe place not to mention not even safe water.


  109. 109 | October 23, 2012 9:58 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    Taggart also knows Wide World of Sports.
    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5WV-cELBB4


  110. huckfunn
    110 | October 23, 2012 9:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I’m seeing it in my local paper..the people are writing letters to the editor about the AP articles and how biased they are…they want to know why the paper is printing this articles in the paper…they are nothing but lies. One person said in a letter to the editor, “If you want the real news go online and get the real news that you can even double-check because what the paper is putting out is nothing but lies by the AP” That was in Monday’s paper. Sunday when most of the letters to the editor are given a whole page they filled it with politcal cartoons an a letter from a 7th Grader…I went what in the world?

    That’s great! AP and Reuters are 2 of the biggest media criminals and people are finally figuring it out. Let those damn newspapers go bust. I refuse to buy one. I’ll only look at a newspaper when it is free with the free breakfast at whatever motel I happen to be staying in.


  111. Lily
    111 | October 23, 2012 9:59 pm

    Nite all have a good one. :)


  112. unclassifiable
    112 | October 23, 2012 10:01 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ brookly red:

    Well this is why it is good to get other folks advice I guess:D


  113. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | October 23, 2012 10:02 pm

    ‘Nite, folks.


  114. 114 | October 23, 2012 10:06 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    ‘Nite, folks.

    Night Buzz


  115. huckfunn
    115 | October 23, 2012 10:07 pm

    Right now on Greta. Greta and Bolton have the emails that show the regime knew in real time as the Benghazi attack was occurring that it was a terrorist attack and who did it.


  116. unclassifiable
    116 | October 23, 2012 10:10 pm

    Last post for the night.

    I did my RCP map and then looked at their current polls.

    If they are to be believed Romney needs to flip OH, PA, or MI by election day. There are other scenarios much more complicated than that but that is my best guess.

    It does make these last days a bit stressful.


  117. brookly red
    117 | October 23, 2012 10:26 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Right now on Greta. Greta and Bolton have the emails that show the regime knew in real time as the Benghazi attack was occurring that it was a terrorist attack and who did it.

    and you still think it was not a set up?


  118. huckfunn
    118 | October 23, 2012 10:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    and you still think it was not a set up?

    I’m still not sure what you’re talking about. Please tell me who you think was set up and by whom they were set up. I believe that this was an AQ terrorist attack against a U.S. diplomatic post. That’s my take. Please explain your take.


  119. 120 | October 23, 2012 10:39 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ 4_Sticks:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I heard some time ago that Мишель threatened to divorce Бара́к if he lost a State Senate election way back before he became a US Senator. Unless said papers concern an action in process?

    That’s doubtful because then Mooch wouldn’t get to live in the fancy digs in Hawaii. OTOH, maybe he wants to dump Mooch and move in with his boyfriend(s).

    However – it’d be news if the divorce papers mentioned anything about his adulterous homosexual affairs and/or his having contracted HIV (and perhaps passing it along to Mooch). The black community in Chicago and elsewhere is pretty well convinced that he has HIV.


  120. Lost
    121 | October 23, 2012 10:40 pm

    Whats this bombshell Trump has trumped out? Divorice papers? Really?
    This could hurt Romney real bad.


  121. 123 | October 23, 2012 10:43 pm

    @ Lost:

    That’s the rumor but who knows. I think its a response to Gloria Allred’s threats.


  122. huckfunn
    124 | October 23, 2012 10:44 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Boom: Reuters Obtains Emails Showing White House Knew Benghazi Was A Terror Attack Within 2 Hours…

    See #119 above.


  123. 125 | October 23, 2012 10:45 pm

    @ Lost:

    The Trump camp says its not the divorce papers.


  124. Lost
    126 | October 23, 2012 10:45 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    This begs the question: What was Obama and the state department trying to cover up?


  125. 127 | October 23, 2012 10:46 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Now I know why Romney avoided Benghazi. Why get in the way as it blows in Obama’s face.


  126. Lost
    128 | October 23, 2012 10:46 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lost:
    The Trump camp says its not the divorce papers.

    It’s being reported in the local news. Not good, even if its not true.


  127. brookly red
    129 | October 23, 2012 10:47 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    and you still think it was not a set up?

    I’m still not sure what you’re talking about. Please tell me who you think was set up and by whom they were set up. I believe that this was an AQ terrorist attack against a U.S. diplomatic post. That’s my take. Please explain your take.

    It was an AQ terrorist attack against a U.S diplomatic post (and CIA base) that despite the ambassadors request for more security was allowed to happen, in fact recorded in real time by a drone. All the while the administration was showing a you tube clip to enrage people while declaring that they (the gubermit)was not to blame… and then after the “incident” the administration bent over backwards to blame a you tube clip & deny any terrorist involvement, while the Saudis are lobbying big time for internet censorship? Oh and just before an election… is this getting clearer?


  128. Lost
    130 | October 23, 2012 10:47 pm

    @ Rodan:
    So a threat for a threat? ;)


  129. huckfunn
    131 | October 23, 2012 10:48 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Now I know why Romney avoided Benghazi. Why get in the way as it blows in Obama’s face.

    Great point! Romney now gets intel briefings, but he probably got the info somewhere else. Good catch!


  130. 132 | October 23, 2012 10:49 pm

    Lost wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    So a threat for a threat?

    Yes, The Obama camp has Gloria Allred to reveal something. The Romney camp is having Trump counter. I think its Obama’s transcripts.


  131. Lost
    133 | October 23, 2012 10:49 pm

    @ brookly red:
    You think 4 Americans died so that Obama could legislate/ban the internet?!?!


  132. 134 | October 23, 2012 10:50 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Normally I love a fight, but Romney did the right thing yesterday. Let this continue to implode in Obama’s face.


  133. brookly red
    135 | October 23, 2012 10:50 pm

    Lost wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    You think 4 Americans died so that Obama could legislate/ban the internet?!?!

    why not? 300 Mexicans died so he could ban guns…


  134. huckfunn
    136 | October 23, 2012 10:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Oh and just before an election… is this getting clearer?

    No. What is your point? Who was set up and who set them up? You’re speaking in parables.


  135. lobo91
    137 | October 23, 2012 10:54 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lost wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    You think 4 Americans died so that Obama could legislate/ban the internet?!?!

    why not? 300 Mexicans died so he could ban guns…

    How about if we ban Obama, instead?

    Wouldn’t that be simpler?


  136. huckfunn
    138 | October 23, 2012 10:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Normally I love a fight, but Romney did the right thing yesterday. Let this continue to implode in Obama’s face.

    Absolutely! O’Reilley made an utter fool of himself tonight by ranting and raving about Romney not going on attack regarding Benghazi. Can’t wait to see how the “No-Spin Meister” spins that.


  137. brookly red
    139 | October 23, 2012 10:56 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Oh and just before an election… is this getting clearer?

    No. What is your point? Who was set up and who set them up? You’re speaking in parables.

    What parables? I said he was set up.

    The Administration went full court press to blame a single you tube vid? and not AQ? wtf? does that smell OK to you?


  138. 140 | October 23, 2012 10:56 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    You know I come from the attack school. Yet I am giving Romney props for playing it cool. I got the impression Romney knew something and was being cool about it.


  139. huckfunn
    141 | October 23, 2012 10:58 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    What parables? I said he was set up.

    I want you to tell us all in plain, unambiguous language, WHO WAS SET UP AND WHO IT WAS THAT SET THEM UP.


  140. huckfunn
    142 | October 23, 2012 11:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    You know I come from the attack school. Yet I am giving Romney props for playing it cool. I got the impression Romney knew something and was being cool about it.

    Rush had the point of view today that Romney was very calculating in holding back on the Libya thing. Now it all makes sense.


  141. brookly red
    143 | October 23, 2012 11:03 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    What parables? I said he was set up.

    I want you to tell us all in plain, unambiguous language, WHO WAS SET UP AND WHO IT WAS THAT SET THEM UP.

    the ambassador was set up, and the admin. that did nothing to help and then tried to blame indignant peasantry (with RPGs and knowledge of a CIA safe house) set him up. Can I spell this out any clearer?


  142. Lost
    144 | October 23, 2012 11:05 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lost wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    You think 4 Americans died so that Obama could legislate/ban the internet?!?!

    why not? 300 Mexicans died so he could ban guns…

    Sorry Red. I often agree with you but not on this.
    Allow me to explain why. In my opinion, Obama is not qualified for the Presidency and he does not have America’s best interest at heart. He has a different vision for our country than the one held by our founding fathers. Nevertheless, I do not believe he would kill 4 Americans to invoke bans on the internet. Nor do I believe Ambassador Stevens died because he knew something. Obama is in the middle of an election! Even if he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something as hideous as that, do you think it wouldn’t get out via whistle blower?
    This was nothing other than Obama’s sympathy for the muslim world and pathetic foreign policy at play. At this point, anything else is a conspiracy theory.


  143. huckfunn
    145 | October 23, 2012 11:07 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    the ambassador was set up, and the admin. that did nothing to help and then tried to blame indignant peasantry (with RPGs and knowledge of a CIA safe house) set him up. Can I spell this out any clearer?

    Red; You’re one of my buds and I don’t want to be in a pissing match with you. However, I just don’t buy conspiracy theories. Are you saying that the Obama regime conspired with Al Queda to have our ambassador killed? That sounds like pure fantasy to me. Trutherism.


  144. brookly red
    146 | October 23, 2012 11:07 pm

    Lost wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Lost wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    You think 4 Americans died so that Obama could legislate/ban the internet?!?!

    why not? 300 Mexicans died so he could ban guns…

    Sorry Red. I often agree with you but not on this.
    Allow me to explain why. In my opinion, Obama is not qualified for the Presidency and he does not have America’s best interest at heart. He has a different vision for our country than the one held by our founding fathers. Nevertheless, I do not believe he would kill 4 Americans to invoke bans on the internet. Nor do I believe Ambassador Stevens died because he knew something. Obama is in the middle of an election! Even if he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something as hideous as that, do you think it wouldn’t get out via whistle blower?
    This was nothing other than Obama’s sympathy for the muslim world and pathetic foreign policy at play. At this point, anything else is a conspiracy theory.

    OK then why the cover up?


  145. brookly red
    147 | October 23, 2012 11:09 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    OK, it seems obvious to me but I will let it be…


  146. 148 | October 23, 2012 11:10 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Would said transcripts include Обама’s status as a Foreign Student?


  147. Lost
    149 | October 23, 2012 11:12 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Because 4 Americans DIED and regardless of politics, people care when citizens are murdered! An attack on the embassy is an act of war and an attack on the USA. Obama could not risk calling it what it was as it would bring people together and he has worked SO hard to drive us apart. It also indicts his foreign policy, something he didn’t want to happen in the middle of an election. The vidoe was a convenient and believable excuse because other countries did have riots because of it. This is why he tried so hard to peddle that excuse, hoping that people would buy it and the issue would go away.
    Had we not been in the middle of the election, he probably would have succeeded.


  148. brookly red
    150 | October 23, 2012 11:14 pm

    @ Lost:

    I said what I said, I will let it be.


  149. 151 | October 23, 2012 11:15 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Would said transcripts include Обама’s status as a Foreign Student?

    Yup.


  150. huckfunn
    152 | October 23, 2012 11:16 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    OK, it seems obvious to me but I will let it be…

    Ask yourself this. What possible advantage could Obama gain from having an ambassador killed (first time since 1979) on his watch, less than 2 months before the election? A gay ambassador at that. Obama’s a total dirtbag, train wreck of a president. But this set up? Nope.


  151. lobo91
    153 | October 23, 2012 11:16 pm

    @ Lost:

    It also indicts his foreign policy, something he didn’t want to happen in the middle of an election. The vidoe was a convenient and believable excuse because other countries did have riots because of it. This is why he tried so hard to peddle that excuse, hoping that people would buy it and the issue would go away.

    I agree.


  152. 154 | October 23, 2012 11:18 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Hey your Special Report will be promoted to a main thread 8:00 AM.


  153. Lost
    155 | October 23, 2012 11:18 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    @ Lost:
    I said what I said, I will let it be.

    In any case, it is a tragedy and Obama is not deserving of leadership of our great country. On that we can all agree. :)


  154. taxfreekiller
    156 | October 23, 2012 11:18 pm

    Ms tfk is just closing down her on-line get out the vote work calling voters tonight in New Mexico and Nevada, good reception on all the calls. She had about 20 others working it also.

    I have been working up a trip down to the Rio G. and a long night walk to see the sights.

    Watched PBS to see what Front Line would do about AGW fraud by M. Mann etal of the fraud hockey stick commie effort.

    They did use Lt. for life, traitor, liar, commie enabler kept man John F. Kerry for their “Good Guy” on the side of AGW cause he has such a good name and all. Spit.

    Any how lies compounded by liars for the protection of commie Earth First lies and hockey from M. Manns ass.

    We all remember when Night Line morffed into Night Lie.

    Front Line has made the choice to be Front Lie. Sad.

    PBS executives should have watched the show themselves, as the gest of the whole thing was that the D’s and R’s will not touch AGW any longer due to getting their ass’s voted out of office if and when they do so.

    So, PBS will need votes for is dole, and soon the votes will not be there for them due to this support of lies and fraud. Notwithstanding the deal is votes. All these dummies of PBS had to do is any thing else.

    Cults seem to have a self destruct thing and they just have to do it.

    Good enough for me that they cut their own funding this way.

    Keeps me from needing the time to work them gone, when they do the job themselves.

    like that

    http://www.wattsupwiththat.com

    should be some good threads on this tomorrow


  155. Lost
    157 | October 23, 2012 11:19 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Hey Lobo!
    Where was Romney Colorado rally at today?


  156. lobo91
    158 | October 23, 2012 11:21 pm

    Lost wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Hey Lobo!
    Where was Romney Colorado rally at today?

    Morrison, I think.


  157. Lost
    159 | October 23, 2012 11:22 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:
    Sesame street is only a front, hey?
    Like kids shows in the middle east.


  158. Lost
    160 | October 23, 2012 11:23 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Red Rocks?


  159. Bumr50
    161 | October 23, 2012 11:25 pm

    The Hollywood Left is melting down.

    I’ve never seen anything like this. I’m not sure anyone has.


  160. lobo91
    162 | October 23, 2012 11:27 pm

    Lost wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Red Rocks?

    Could be. All I heard was Morrison someplace.


  161. huckfunn
    163 | October 23, 2012 11:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Hey your Special Report will be promoted to a main thread 8:00 AM.

    10-4. It’s a developing story so be sure and update as you see fit.


  162. Lost
    164 | October 23, 2012 11:27 pm

    @ Lost:
    Yup. Beautiful place. Full of good memories. Red rocks, Genesee Park, Heritage Square etc.

    Colorado was a great place to grow up in.


  163. taxfreekiller
    165 | October 23, 2012 11:27 pm

    The CIA has been “contracting” gun fighters from this area of Lybia for years and years.
    CIA had to know lots of what was going on.
    CIA gun running is possible and some high tech stuff may have been on “loan” to some to help get rid of Kadaffy Duck. Once KD was gone the local hired guns got to thinking this Obama is a weak duck so we f’the duck. Some one had to make the exchange to get the high tech stuff back. There would be $ comming from U.S. and the high tech coming back. There had to be a trade the stuff moment. Could be these hired guns did a old fashioned “double cross drug gang deal”. They took the money (gold ect) and kept the high tech killing things that where on loan.

    Thus the CIA got caught in the middle and had to take the blame.

    like that


  164. Lost
    166 | October 23, 2012 11:28 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    You mean even the men have turned into shrieking harpies?


  165. 167 | October 23, 2012 11:28 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Would said transcripts include Обама’s status as a Foreign Student?

    That could be.

    Or perhaps it’s some medical info that would explain the huge scar on his head and/or his obvious mental incapacity.


  166. rain of lead
    168 | October 23, 2012 11:29 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    good job to you and the Mrs

    as the saying goes
    we ARE living in interesting times


  167. 169 | October 23, 2012 11:29 pm

    OOT is up.


  168. 170 | October 23, 2012 11:30 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Yup, the Benghazi consulate was recruiting AQ fighters for Syria.


  169. Lost
    171 | October 23, 2012 11:30 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:
    Probable but we’ll never know.


  170. 172 | October 23, 2012 11:31 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I am convinced Romney knew about this last night and that is why he was so calm.


  171. huckfunn
    173 | October 23, 2012 11:35 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Yup, the Benghazi consulate was recruiting AQ fighters for Syria.

    Now that’s just one conspiracy too far for me.

    G’nite.


  172. Lost
    174 | October 23, 2012 11:39 pm

    G’nite, Huckfunn.


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