Hopefully this will speed things up a bit.
Can’t help with the result, unfortunately.
2012 Election Post #4
by lobo91 ( 570 Comments › )Filed under Elections 2012 at November 6th, 2012 - 11:50 pm
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Play nice!
Am I the FIRST to get 500 errors?
The numbers are changing WZ had obama over 270 and I checked again it was obama at 243….PRAY!
What does an Obama win mean for America?
@ song_and_dance_man:
No ….I couldn’t even get on…
song_and_dance_man wrote:
No, it’s like Obama……everybody getting screwed.
@ mfhorn:
Oh I don’t want to read it … I know it isn’t good.
Where is everyone now?
Well, my day at the polling place was a wild one. I’ve voted at the site I worked for 10 years, and haven’t seen that many people there the over that entire time! We got there at 4:45 this morning, I left at 10p. We closed the doors at 7, closed the doors to the room where the voting was happening at 8, and it took another hour for the last votes to be cast. Wait was as long as 2 hours for some people. When we printed the results, Obozo was up by about 3:1, but I’m in a very heavily Dem. area. I think I was the token Republican.
My feet hurt. And, in memory of the America that will soon pass away, I’m drinking a Bushmill’s Honey Irish.
well
the election is not compleatly dead, just mostly dead
mostly dead means a little bit alive
compleatly dead means digging through Romneys pockets
and looking for lose change
@ Lily:
Yes, it’s pretty depressing.
It’s not over. OH is just 1k vote difference. VA is 8k and Chair hasn’t yet come out to give his TOTUS a workout.
@ rain of lead:
Did you notice the numbers changed?
FNC just called Nevada for Obama
Leaves CO, VA and FL.
And they’re arguing about Ohio on FNC
Lily wrote:
They were knocked out with a 500 and never came back.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Yeah the numbers are changing too….
So long USA, hello Confederated States of WWA (What was America)
@ song_and_dance_man:
Probably so.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
I would love for a Hail Mary to get me out of my funk.
Yea tax the wealthy. Learn Le Chatelier’s Principle the hard way
What happened to wisdom of men like Benjamin Franklin?
“I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor[5] (29 November 1766).
and
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
This was written by Franklin, within quotation marks but is generally accepted as his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as:
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
@ Lily:
I’m back.
Had a good cry. However, I want to see every vote counted before I believe it. Even Fox has drunk the KoolAid tonight.
I’m done with Christie. Done.
I’m tired of evil dominating our country. (Random thoughts. Not calling Christie evil. The SCOAMF and crew.)
That’s ok at state level here the press called it dems across the board except for the President and that’s 2%.
Lily wrote:
According to Google, which I trust more than the OSM, has Mitt up by 20k now in OH
The fact that the state with the highest unemployment rate in the country--Nevada--would vote to keep this asshole proves that we’re finished.
rain of lead wrote:
On WZ obama was over 270 and then it went to 243 …something is up.
Pray!
song_and_dance_man wrote:
I know the numbers are changing and not in obama’s favor.
The count don’t really count until it’s 100%. Pray and pray again.
The ironic thing is that the people I know who will be most negatively affected by the SCOAMF for the next four years are the same ones who voted for him.
Sucks to be them. I’m tired of being quiet to avoid disagreements with these morons. Every time they bitch now about the cost of things, I’m going to point out that it’s Bammy’s policies.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Romney is ahead in Ohio…
D Winner B. Obama (i) 48.9% 2,278,659
R M. Romney 49.4% 2,299,462
Romney up by 20,000
livefreeor die wrote:
PRAY! The numbers are changing and not in obama’s favor….
Krauthammer was being cautiously optimistic about what could come after Obama’s next four years. He was talking about all of the youngbloods waiting in the wings of the Republican party. I just hope we can survive that long for something to right this ship of fools (present company excluded).
livefreeor die wrote:
I stopped being quiet a while ago…keep the faith something is up the numbers are changing.
lobo91 wrote:
Include OH and exclude CO and that is where there will be a count that is close.
The thing that has always confused me about our elections is this: The absentee ballots (especially from the military) have not come in yet. But, they always call the elections right away. And you never hear how the military ballots went. It’s like they just vanish.
@ Runner:
Has Romney conceded? No…wait the numbers are changing.
@ Lily:
Thanks, Lily, and everyone else. This is where I wanted to be tonight.
I wasn’t just crying for the country. I’m pretty bummed about NoThreat2U.
@ 30 doriangrey: By the media it looks dim. But I still prefer to wait. This close then???? let’s look at it in the morning.
Bordm wrote:
Yes PRAY, PRAY, PRAY….the numbers are changing…
It would be interesting to have 3 recounts and have the election slide into Romney’s favor.
@ Lily:
I haven’t given up just yet. I still have some beer left!
Lily wrote:
Yes, I’ve been getting my Irish up more after getting inspired by everyone here. Heck, we put up Romney/Ryan signs this year!
Right now, our local news shows Obama up 51-47, with 50% reporting statewide in CO.
livefreeor die wrote:
I have cried a lot today. Keep the faith …Romney has not conceded..and the numbers are changing. PRAY {livefreeordie} PRAY!
I would love to see the crestfallen faces of the celebrating Obama supporters learn that Ohio has now been called in favor of Romney. Hell, I don’t even know that it would matter and I’m not concluding it will happen. Just getting a little joy from the thought of the misfortune of others. The Germans have a word for that…
@ Lily:
Will continue to do so (praying I mean-enough tears over the election.)
maybe Howard Dean is right and fraud will determine the election.
And apparently we approved recreational marijuana use in Colorado.
@ darkwords:
I’m sorry but there had to be major fraud in the Philly burbs. Romney supporters were on a roll here.
I’ve been a Republican all my life, but the Republicans are obviously not the answer. Too much reaching across the isle. I’m done with them. Where do we go from here?
I’m done for the night.
zzzzzzzzzzzz
Runner wrote:
Do you recall the 00 election night in 99? This one is reminiscent of that crazy night. Gore was declared the winner and then WHAM, it turned out Bush won.
What is eerily similar is that Gore never came out to greet the crowd because he knew it was not in the bag, and just like then, Chair is reluctant to show up in the same manner.
This turn of events—that Chair has not come out to declare that he is the Fa Shizzle— smacks of good tidings. Be ready for a fight in the jurist trenches if this thing goes suit-wise with questions of counting in those places where it is aladam close.
@ lobo91:
google says a diff of 59,000 votes
@ livefreeor die:
I just can’t speak about NT2U tonight.
I’ll start shedding tears again if I do.
@ livefreeor die:
It’s been a hard day with Tina and all…but if Romney isn’t conceding …..things could change…
@ Calo:
{{{{Calo}}}}! I know.
I see CO is blue on the FNC map now.
Lovely
@ Lily:
I’m glad he’s not conceding. McCain folded like tissue four years ago.
Remember when Kerry sent Edwards out in 2004 to say they weren’t conceding and Edwards stood there all by himself on the stage making stupid thumbs ups signs everywhere? Now THAT was fun…
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Yes and Romney is not throwing in the towel and conceding….says something.
doriangrey wrote:
And now down by 22k
I will not relent until the final tally is in.
livefreeor die wrote:
Good times.
@ Lily:
Mitt,
Don’t give in until the provisionals and recounts due to voting irregularities are done! This is the future of the country we’re talking about!!!
livefreeor die wrote:
Indeed. Too many people have thrown in the towel …yet Romney hasn’t!!!!
@ MacDuff:
The hubby and I laughed our kiesters off that night. Man, he looked lame.
lobo91 wrote:
It looks like the voters here in Maine approved gay marriage just a couple of years after they defeated it. A couple of years ago the Governor signed gay marriage into law and opponents got enough signatures to have it on a statewide ballot and it was overturned, defeated, whatever. This year, proponents got it back on the ballot to approve it and the schizophrenic electorate in Maine approved it.
They also voted into office former Governor Angus King to replace outgoing Senator Olympia Snowe. King is a so-called “independent” but he’s really a crazy liberal, so while Snowe is slightly more conservative and sometimes votes with the Republicans, I would have to call this a loss since I can’t see King siding with Republicans on anything.
I just wish I had a full bottle of Maker’s Mark right now…
@ Calo:
Light your candle…we need a miracle!
@ song_and_dance_man:
I hope you’re right. At least there’s a glimmer of hope. Maybe? Sort of?
@ Lily:
I do think Romney is going to wait till ALL the votes get counted
still
should not be this close
@ Runner:
Hey, no booze. We must be one with Mitt right now.
@ Runner:
Yes, that’s a loss
Puhlease, Brian Williams questioning if this so-called win is a mandate.
I laugh in derision
I’m sick of all these damned people talking about the woman vote, the Latino vote, the white vote, the black vote, etc., etc. These damned Democrats have purposely created fractures in our country and now, they’re actually celebrating it?!
We need a return to the UNITED States.
rain of lead wrote:
There’s a good chance that he’ll win the popular vote and still lose.
@ lobo91:
But at least we have someone who clearly won’t side with us rather than someone we’re always loading up with pork to coax them into siding with us. If Maine wants to elect morons, at least we don’t have to reward them anymore with stuff for doing so.
Hey, Maine, let us know how big those potholes get after a couple of years of poor repairs.
@ Calo:
@ Lily:
we as a blog need to do something for her service
maybe CW can get the details of her service when the family
gets them made
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Umm…considering that he got more electoral votes the first time, I’d say no…
rain of lead wrote:
I know!!!! I pray God doesn’t turn His back on us because so many democrats regetted Him…
@ rain of lead:
Yes indeed.
livefreeor die wrote:
Well, I have two cans of Porkslap Pale Ale left and will consume them shortly!
@ song_and_dance_man:
Yes, it’s a mandate to small business not to hire people full time, not to expand, not to invest, and probably not to operate in this country in many cases.
@ MacDuff:
yeah
no
I think that ship has sailed
MacDuff wrote:
That’s been the Democrat strategy going back to LBJ. They’ve finally got it perfected, apparently.
MacDuff wrote:
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
lobo91 wrote:
Rocky Mountain HIGH!
livefreeor die wrote:
Hell, I could lose my car in some of the potholes right in my neighborhood here in Maine.
On today’s ballot we also had about 5 or 6 bond questions. Maine voters never turn down the chance to borrow money so I’m sure they will pass. One of them was to borrow money for the state to purchase land that was for sale to add to the state parks system or something. The funny thing is, they borrow money that we citizens will have to pay back but yet charge us for visiting the parks. So we get to pay twice!
FNC’s showing the Senate as 50 (+2)-44 with 4 seats left to decide.
@ Moe Katz:
Ha! I wish I had thought of that retort!
Moe Katz wrote:
They probably should have approved heroin use…
We’re probably going to end up 53 +2-45 in the Senate.
We’ve actually lost seats.
@ Lily:
I know how you feel.She so wanted Not to see chair get this.I am praying still.
Hmm. I just typed a lengthy comment about the bond issues on the ballot here in Maine but after “submit comment” it just disappeared. Unless it is there between the last refresh and me typing this now. Curious…
lobo91 wrote:
This is insanity.
There was something about Mark Levin’s voice on the radio that made me pause about a win tonight
Later, peeps, I’m done.
Perhaps I’ll leave a note for the Mormon Election Faery under my pillow and he’ll leave me good news for the morning. More importantly, I’ll pray. I must say though, I’m not optimistic.
G’night all.
momcat wrote:
Yes she so much wanted to see obama fired.
OH is tightening. 11k Chair. it’s been up and down with 10% to go.
WI is far off with 70K Chair
FL is 8k Chair
Doesn’t look good for Mitt but there are still votes out there even though most of the counties have reported.
OH is now within 10
Allen West (R) 49.8%
Murphy (D) 50.2%
97.4% in
No words
Emperor wrote:
Oh, crap
And they put Alan Grayson back in the House, too.
wait
was that to grim
geez
sorry
my bad
Emperor wrote:
Oh my God! Honestly there are no words. What in the hell happened tonight?
The majority of the electorate has become like the Eloi of Wells’ Time Machine story. They’re content to have someone else (Government) feed and clothe them. They have no compassion for their fellow Eloi and in fact don’t even know what compassion means. Every now and then they have to sacrifice one of their own to satisfy the Morlocks (Government in general, Democrats in particular). The Eloi are merely useful tools to the Morlocks and both cannot get along without the other.
Okay, now I’ve officially lost my mind or had too much pale ale.
@ Runner:
I’m completely sober and you make a lot of sense.
@ Emperor:
America is fundamentally changed.
I weep for our children.
@ Calo:
So sadly true.
Runner wrote:
I LIKE your theory! I may
G’night….
Calo wrote:
I do too. I don’t blame Romney he gave it all he had. I blame the American people who have lost their ever loving minds.
lobo91 wrote:
See Rain of Lead’s #95
Night all.
Must put on a happy face for the kids tomorrow.
Calo wrote:
Well, that was what Obama promised.
livefreeor die wrote:
By fiat another business goes abroad. Jeep jeep.
Soon others will follow. Wal Mart, Apple…oh, wait..
I’m getting really sick of the split screen shot showing people dancing at Obama headquarters.
well
here we are
as we know a president’s 2nd term is NEVER as good as his first
there are no more goodies to hand out and barkys chickens will
come home to roost
he wanted a 2nd term well he gets it
we are in for a rough ride
As I posted in the last thread.. . http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/641/hindenburg.jpg
Romney to speak in 10 minutes
@ lobo91:
then change the channel
I switched fox off about 2 hours ago
mo better
@ rain of lead:
Since he’s already cemented his place as the worst president ever, where can he go from here?
Romney is not conceding…
Obama Projected as Winner, Romney Campaign Not Yet Ready to Concede
Runner wrote:
Not so. You mentioned Morlocks who became a fav term to use at 1.0 just as you described them in allegory.
Emperor wrote:
What?
Damn.
Rodan wrote:
Can you believe that??????????????
And we thought common sense would prevail…we couldn`t lose if only the people would see the light of day!…If only??? Guess what, we lost, and we lost much more than an election…we lost our last chance at the ballot box…those days are gone…FOREVER!!!
lobo91 wrote:
Good heavens I don’t want to know. But all I know it is going to be bad.
@ lobo91:
events in the world will overtake his presidency
he will not be able to respond
hillarity ensues
@ Rodan:
@ Lily:
The GOP elite got rid of West
@ song_and_dance_man:
I don’t recall Morlocks being referenced at 1.0. And here I thought I was being original and all. Damn. It seems that Keith Richards was right when he said “everything’s been done before,” or something like that.
a talking head just said
we are spending 400 billion dollare a day
how do we fix that?
ummmm
stop spending it
rain of lead wrote:
Yep I fear that something bad is on the horizon…
We should all have a drink to NT2U tonight and next year.
waldensianspirit wrote:
this is end
waldensianspirit wrote:
He was a shining star.
rain of lead wrote:
Oddly enough, I’m not laughing.
It’s not just losing. It’s the media too.
Fast and Furious. Bengazhi.
If Obama had an (R) after his name, not only would he lose re lection in a landslide, multiple members of his administration would be preparing to move in some cozy new digs in a jail cell.
@ darkwords:
Toast!
fuck fuck fuck
romney just conceded
game over
@ 115 lobo91: Obama supporters are essentially people who want to destroy the country to make themselves feel temporarily better.
Romney’s called Obama to concede.
rain of lead wrote:
Their press has already said they will raise taxes on the ‘rich’
@ waldensianspirit:
I hope he doesn’t quit politics.
Romney conceding
@ Emperor:
If Obama had an R after his name (or was white) he never would have made it through the primaries.
He would’ve been laughed off the stage.
@ rain of lead:
@ rain of lead:
Game Over…
song_and_dance_man wrote:
I have no words. He gave it his all. The American people have lost their minds.
@ waldensianspirit:
Meaning “anyone who still has a job”
waldensianspirit wrote:
And so it is.
@ Lily:
The American people have lost more than their minds, they have lost their identity!
@ Runner:
It was an old term that had mention in the Dictionary.
rain of lead wrote:
He would have made a great president. I am sick to my stomach.
Bring donuts to your work tomorrow.
Spme good thoughts at NRO:
Gawd this sucks…..
@ Lily:
He fought hard and, unlike 4 years ago, no punches were pulled.
He earned a lot of peoples’ respect.. mine included.
gibsonz wrote:
I live in the very red south…but America voted in a president that watched Americans getting murdered and did nothing. What does that say?
@ Emperor:
Mine too.
*puke*
We can all find solace in what one said in a story that I will not now look for. Chair winning is a loss, for us and for him. For him more because Benghazi still hovers large over his head.
@ Lily:
See #149
I am at a loss. need something for four years of depresson.
screw work
tomorrow
I’m going gun shopping
any ideas
I have some pistols and a rifle
Well, at least Ryan kept his House seat, since Wisconsin allows people to run for more than one office.
Lily wrote:
Less than half have; the other percentage that would have made a difference have little to no idea what their apathy has wrought.
@ rain of lead:
What do you have in mind?
benghazi
solyndra
fast and furious
the pro choicers chose to look the other way.
Here comes a bunch of Mussolini poses
@ momcat:
So am I…very little people turned up at his rallies, Romney had massive amounts of people and obama still won..what a fall from grace.
We are going to be less protected, and I don’t even want to know what else is down the road for us as a country.
@ lobo91:
how about a shotgun to start
lobo91 wrote:
LSD. Come to Trail and see trails….
Shit…they just gave Obama Virginia.
And Florida is waiting until tomorrow to finish counting.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Indeed they have no idea what is ahead of us …obama has told us revenge. He will bring it. I am disgusted.
enough of this Arab Spring. Iran must go. Let’s see what Chair will do with that.
I don’t even know if I can sleep tonight. And I have to work with pricks who love Obama and will be walking around on cloud 9 all day tomorrow. My only solace is that they are salary workers and I am hourly. This week has been a killer with those guys working from 9 until 11 at night with no extra compensation. They are beat and punchy and it shows. I have been asked to stay late on Thursday and I will take quiet comfort in billing them for every fart, sniffle, sneeze, and restroom visit.
Juvenile? Yes. But it’s all I have left in me. At least this week. Next week? We live to fight another day!!
So, four more years --
Four more years of not bad leadership but NO leadership.
Four more years… more than enough time for Iran to get the bomb.
Four more years and a firm liberal majority on the Supreme Court.
Four more years hurtling towards the fiscal cliff…
But hey-
Thousands get to keep their free cell phones courtesy of the government.
rain of lead wrote:
For home defense, or hunting?
hunker down people
2% growth is gonna be paradise in 2-3 months
@ lobo91:
home defense
@ lobo91:
Pretty much lobo. Pretty much.
@ Emperor:
Hey…we still have a few embassies that haven’t been attacked (yet)!
//
I was optimistic after the debates that momentum had indeed swung to Romney. I was worried about fraud though, and the malfeasance of the media in ignoring important stories like Benghazi and Fast and Furious and promoting utter bullcrap like “War on Women” and “Ryan will destroy Medicare.”
Of course, the American public is about to find out, in the saddest way possible, that everything they thought was true is not. The Bush tax cuts? Gone. For the middle class as well. You re-elected Obama, do you think he gives a DAMN about how much tax you pay? He has his permanent underclass to pay for.
And health care? Sure you can have coverage. Coverage does not equal care. And good luck all you Medicare patients who believed his bullshit. Good luck finding a doctor. Good luck getting treatment. You are expendable now. Die quickly. Because you’re a burden on Obama’s system.
Think the umemployment rate will do down? Oh hell no. Hope your employer still gives you health care, because good luck affording it if he doesn’t. And remember -- you HAVE to buy it. You don’t have a choice.
conceding tonight is good for the democrats.
Conceding tomorrow is good for the GoP.
But the GoP still hasn’t learned.
rain of lead wrote:
We have already done that. Like Calo said I weep for my children. The apathy that 1/2 of Americans have shown and their buying into to the hate …the damage that will be done.. for anyone who voted for obama I have NO PITY.
rain of lead wrote:
Your two basic choices are the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500 series. Many people like each.
Functionally, the most obvious difference is the placement of the safety. Remington uses a cross-bolt push button; Mossberg uses a slide on top of the receiver.
Personally, I own a Mossberg 590, which has a 20″ barrel and holds 8 rounds (+ 1 in the chamber).
@ Runner:
Runner -- I tool the whole week off. I didn’t want to be in the office if Obama won.
rain of lead wrote:
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=441
Bunk X wrote:
Where is my tequila tonight?
I think I need to dig it out of the liquor cabinet, open my mouth and relax my throat.
@ Carolina Girl:
And that includes my son who has a rare disease. Oh my God!
@ lobo91:
Funny you should say that. I have the Remington in a 20 gauge and the Mossberg in a 12 gauge.
@ Lily:
And HE VOTED FOR ROMNEY TODAY!!!!
Lily wrote:
I have a nice letter from the VA saying I’m entitled to care.
Unfortunately, that’s all I have.
@ Carolina Girl:
Obama’s record is ridiculously bad. There are no substantive successes but many failures. His signature legislative “accomplishments” are nearly universally unpopular. The fact that he latched onto the purely symbolic victory of killing Bin Laden as the only one success of his term underlines how totally vapid it was.
The real perpetrators of this are the totally irresponsible media who ignored the real scandals that occurred during the past four years.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I would love to take the week off. Thank goodness I have Spotify on my phone and a decent set of earbuds so I block my co-workers out. Otherwise I would probably have a stroke trying to keep my rage inside and not explode at the asinine comments I have to endure each day from these crazies.
@ Runner:
I’ve been off since I got off the plane from Kuwait on August 14th.
Calo wrote:
*must*not*say*anything*
lobo91 wrote:
So sorry {lobo}! Tonight I cry. Darkness has settled on our country.
@ Lily:
Lily, I will pray God to guide our scientists to help your son.
I will look to 2014. I think Obama will morph into a real tyrant now that he has nothing to lose. He has exhibited small tyrannies up to now; however a re-election, no matter how close, will embolden this narcissic menace.
And as for the House -- do not let Benghazi go. This was a criminally negligent affair and Obama must be held accountable.
Well, my condolences to all from Canada. Romney would have been better for Canada also—the fiscal cliff affects us all.
I’m off to ride my stationary bike for half an hour and then to bed.
apply a mirror to Obama
What are the popular vote totals right now?
@ Carolina Girl:
My prediction is that you’ll never hear about it again after today, other than on Fox News.
I hope the Mayans had it right and this all ends in Dec.
@ Carolina Girl:
49.5% O
49.0% R
Carolina Girl wrote:
Obama: 52,355,414
Romney: 51,898,636
Carolina Girl wrote:
49.5 49.1 Chair
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Sadly, that’s actually starting to look good…
the house “should” go scorched earth on his ass
total gridlock not a single bill out
their approval rating is sucking gravel
own it
Calo wrote:
Wanna see my booth?
in the walking dead they use the correct tools to get rid of the undead.
rain of lead wrote:
What makes you think he plans to submit anything to Congress?
He’s got his mandate for dictatorship now.
In a single sentence
“The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.”
make the pro choicers face benghazi and solyndra.
Emperor wrote:
Yup
Moe Katz wrote:
Funny, I’ve never seen a bed with a bike rack.
@ lobo91:
Not exactly a MANDATE is it?
@ Lily:
What happened was what I warned about. A stagnant economy, Benghazi, fast/Furious and a botched Hurricane relief did Obama no damage. This man could anally rape a boy on TV and he would get away with it.
I say Obama is an illusion but people vote for him based on a fear.
Bring donuts to work tomorrow.
Carolina Girl wrote:
We already know his motto: “I won.”
Think that’s going to change?
@ Rodan:
Well now if it was a dead goat then the media MIGHT mention it…and maybe even say that some crazy Republicans have criticized him for his action.
Time for TOTUS to speak now.
lobo91 wrote:
it will work for me,
Ohno the TOTUS TOUTS. News to 11 STAT and all that
Carolina Girl wrote:
According to some reports it is a man date.
P.s. Chris Christie is up for reelection next year.
He should be primaried.
Geez, seizure pills and Ambian should now lay me down for a b bit……/..Time to go boooom
Seezin ypou peeps in the moning 10 AM UP
Sleepwellll
@ song_and_dance_man:
Maybe this election is what triggers the end of the world in December?
lobo91 wrote:
That’s not good to hear Lobo. I sincerely hope something comes your way asap. FWIW, I found myself in the most dire financial straits of my life in the last two years and could not keep up with my mortgage, bills, etc. Then I followed some leads and prodded some people I knew in my field and landed this in-house freelance gig out of nowhere. If not for this temporary (for now) job surrounded my moonbats I probably would have lost my house. I say this not as false encouragement but as a reminder that it really is true that sometimes things happen due to who you know or persistence or both. I have been trying to get my foot in the door at this business for at least three years so I guess persistence and timing has paid off in this case. Hopefully something will come along for you too. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for ya!
The task of perfecting our Union moves forward.
I’m thinking Goebbels.
@ Runner:
Since “my field” is the military and related things, tonight pretty much put the final nail in my professional coffin, unfortunately.
I’ll be out of savings in three or four months. After that, who knows?
put a resistance symbol up
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Is it wrong of me to wish for a terrorist attack on Chicago right about now?
Rodan wrote:
I believe you…this is just crazy. To be honest. Sad day for our country. I so totally believe you …
Emperor wrote:
If he doesn’t get primaried, I will support his Democrat opponent.
Since no longer necessary to prop up Obama -- let’s all watch the stock market and unemployment rates in the next 30 days. And finally, since Soros’ puppet boy is safe from fear of ejection -- I imagine he’ll work on manipulating and destroying our currency like he did with Malaysia and the British pound.
I’m sure Costa Rica will take him when the warrant for his arrest is issued.
Holy crap…I just saw the results from DC.
Obama got 91% of the vote there.
@ Lily:
I have never seen a politician survive what this man has.
@ Rodan:
Fat Fuck’s career in politics is over as of now.
@ lobo91:
I’m disinclined to hanker a notion like that, but if it comes I would not be adverse to it.
Carolina Girl wrote:
It’s an all out war against Jabba the Hut.
you Bear the truth. You rise from the ashes stronger
@ Carolina Girl:
And if you have any money left, buy gold and silver.
I’ll be spending mine on vet bills and canned chicken, apparently…
Oh and if there’s an emergency -- don’t expect Obama the Asshole to break off a golf game for more situation room photos. Because he no longer has to care (which he never did in the first place).
lobo91 wrote:
well you know what D.C. stands for don’t you
dark country
richard prior said so
The smugness of the Chair is abominable. I’m surprised he hasn’t transplanted his nose further up on his face.
Emperor wrote:
Quoted for truth, sadly.
It’s taking everything I have to keep from throwing my glass at the TV.
I just keep telling myself that because of him, I can’t afford to replace the glass, much less the plasma TV.
Rodan wrote:
Neither have I… Mitt would have been a good President…this is just insanity.
rain of lead wrote:
The only person who ever got a higher percentage of the vote than that was Fidel Castro, or maybe Saddam Hussein.
His speech has no reflection in reality
He wants the “strongest military the world has ever known,” huh?
Personally, I just wanted to serve the remaining 93 days I needed to qualify for my active duty retirement, after 32 years. I guess that was too much to ask, though.
lobo91 wrote:
Yeah, and I recant my statement that Iran should be taking out. Israel must make their own decision.
Oh aladam, Chair just mentioned a warming earth. He must be talking his love affair with the ME that surrounds Israel.
waldensianspirit wrote:
He’s playing to his base.
@ lobo91:
Hmmm….. but it couldn’t be because he’s Black or anything like that.
The only reason Obama wins this election is because in the wealthiest society in the history of humankind people still feel their health threatened. There is a traditional conservative approach that can persuade people to be safe but we are not there.It is human nature that needs to be addressed. Romney has addressed it very adequately in himself but the GoP has not.
@ lobo91:
He is a LIAR!
If I somehow lost all my sensibility I just might like this speech.
I guess waking up beats the alternative, but some days just barely.
Oh, well…maybe people will actually be interested in spending money at this weekend’s gun show, since we’re looking at the end of the country and all.
//Bright side
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Israel must be weeping. They are backed into a corner.
I think I’ll be skipping the morning threads -- frankly I don’t need those two attention whores coming to make light of what to me is the death of our Republic.
Lily wrote:
You just noticed that?
@ Lily:
They will ally with Russia. They both have the MB as enemies.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Same here
lobo91 wrote:
LOL! Oh yeah..long time ago.
Rodan wrote:
They have no choice … I know this my head hurts. There are so many stupid people in our country.
‘Our diversity is shared’.
Code for giving up our sovereignty
@ Lily:
I wonder if they have anything useful for me to do there?
The Australian military is actively recruiting our people now, but I’m too old.
@ lobo91:
Indeed. I think I will sleep as late as I want. Did the Europeons vote in our election some how?
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Actually, I think that’s code for “Fuck you, whitey…give me your stuff”
lobo91 wrote:
Probably so! Good luck there I’m sure you will be busy. At least a little bit of luck for you lobo!
song_and_dance_man wrote:
I’m not listening but I can hear his voice from the other room …it’s annoying.
@ Lily:
I hope Leia is feeling better. I think she’s my main asset.
‘we care for our own’
Code from the Boss and for us, we are screwed.
@ Lily:
Everything he said was bullshit.
It’s like the speech from Bizzaro World.
@ lobo91:
I hope she is too … little prayer up for Leia!
So, O. wins re-election ? It’s a sad day.
What the heel have you guys done? You had the City on the Hill and you turned it into a brothel. The USA land of the exceptional has cashed in its chips for a handful of european socialism. Not only had the entitled underclass in America fucked your own country you have totally screwed the rest of the world too. 52 million obamabots speak and all we can look forward to is a World Depression and Israel using their bombs to defend themselves because B. Hassan Obama sure won’t.
My only hope is that some of the massive capital flight heads this way and we get some relief for the next decade of zero growth.
Charming .
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Royally! Let’s not forget his *enemy list*.
@ lobo91:
She’s such a pretty girl. I wish it were possible to hug her picture.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Not fly-over-country or the southern part of our country..it was the East and West Coasts that screwed us over.
I didn’t understand why O. was elected in the first place and his re-election is a miracle for me.
I don’t effing believe this.
So much stress today, I’m developing a stye on my left eye.
Carolina Girl wrote:
You should have seen all the little kids who wanted to pet her and hug her at the last gun show.
Too bad their parents didn’t spend any money…
Guggi wrote:
Very sad day…and it started off bad to boot.
@ Lily:
No, the midwest screwed us too, didn’t they = Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan.
Lily wrote:
Flyover country went for Obama. Look at the Map. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa. All considered flyover and they went Marxist.
lobo91 wrote:
I think this is the first time I’ve EVER seen you use words like that. But yeah, I agree, it was a fuck you, I got other plans that are you must dig and get along, speech.
Lily wrote:
Pretty sure I’m on it.
I can’t even get a new ID card to access what few benefits I’m legally entitled to.
Guggi wrote:
Not a miracle …but a darkness that has over come our country.
@ Aussie Infidel:
This shows the power of the Media-Industrial complex. Obama was practically untouchable and get away with murder.
Carolina Girl wrote:
…and they should suffer most from this stupid choice.
Guggi wrote:
Guggi, it’s been a terrible day indeed.
We let the world down and are on a straight path to a European style Socialism.
And,{{NT2U}} is terribly missed today
And guess what. Tomorrow the Country club RINOs will be out in force making sure that there are no Tea Party-ers anywhere near the levers of political power. RINOs know that they hold the ONLY l to more socialism. RINOs offer socialism -lite and at a slower pace. Yet Nobody will have the intestinal fortitude to oppose these wreckers. Third parties are just a recipe for perpetual Democrat socialist rule ad nauseum.
My US Army mates are pissed but determined to leave as soon as their time is up. Why work for a bastard who hates the military and lies bare faced whilst leaves those in harms way twisting in the wind.
Yet the populous appears not to care a jot anymore.
Rodan wrote:
You are right …haven’t looked at the map…but to be honest I can’t believe those states went obama with all those coal plants fixing to be shut down with nothing to replace them. So basically the south held on to try and save our country.
Calo wrote:
yes, she is.
Rodan wrote:
Obama DID get away with murder. He was an accomplice before the fact in Benghazi.
Rodan wrote:
Excatly he has gotten away with murder….American lives were murdered and HE DID NOTHING.
I just can’t believe the majority of my country tonight chose to spit in the eye of the mothers/fathers, wives/children of those 4 Americans who were murdered by terrorists in Libya this past September and the families of those who lost their lives because of project F n F miserable failure. Imagine what it must be like for them to see on TV this revelry …
“Signed Sealed Delivered’ in deed. COD, DOA.
Americans died, Obama lied.
God bless our Military. I don’t know how they do it anymore, I really don’t.
Guggi wrote:
But they won’t. Iowa will continue to rake in subsidies to turn corn into ethanol that nobody wants and drive up world food prices.
And Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin will continue getting their subsidies to build cars nobody wants to buy.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
That might be better served on a site that leans the other way.
I will not submit excuses for us and our determination to have it another way.
We are pissed and garner no pleasure nor solace from some detached observer on the other side of nothing that matters right now.
Charming indeed
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Oh they care. They are willing to have a lower quality of life if it means people they hate have a lower quality of life
I really wish I wasn’t saddled with an underwater mortgage on a house my ex-wife talked me into buying.
I’d be looking into moving completely off the grid someplace about now, otherwise.
Just listening to cspan calls by his supporters tells the tale of the tape. They dream of lessening the lives of Americans they hate. Their voices are gleeful on the subject
The Demoncrats have already demonized the Republicans that much I’ve no hope this will change soon.
Romney was libeled in a way I’ve not seen before as: stupid, greedy rich, religious fanatic of a cult, capitalist of the worst kind who will let the people starve to death and who will destroy the earth.
You won’t believe it but O. is seen everywhere as the great thinker, a political genius, a man who cares for the people.
All the lies from the Democrats worked fine.
Not only the U.S.A. are f*cked, we all are especially the people in the ME.
Lily wrote:
Yet whilst the Democratic progressives abort their children in increasing numbers they need to import voters who demand entitlements to remain in power. Alas that system becomes self sustaining once it’s bedded in and damn difficult to ever break. That means the current Republican brand can’t come back from this. Yet if you head down the Third party track you just split the vote and the result is the same. Permanent socialism, of one type or another.
Still the nominal period before socialism dies is 70 years on average. You might get a shot in 2082
@ Guggi:
Unfortunately, by the time they figure it out, it’ll be too late.
The green is on the twigs
Guggi wrote:
apathy to the core
lobo91 wrote:
yep and that’s the reason they voted for O.
Their votes were bought with this subsidies.
@ Aussie Infidel:
The seeds for this were all planted in the mid- to late-’60s. They’ve now come into full bloom.
LBJ traded the south for the urban blacks, who have been returned to slavery as a result.
Ted Kennedy got his immigration bill passed, which capped immigration of people we could actually use (educated Europeans) and allowed unlimited immigration of peasants from Latin America.
And Roe v. Wade enshrined unrestricted abortion in our Constitution.
What we saw tonight was the inevitable result of those three things.
4_Sticks wrote:
They don’t care anymore. The MSM has done a “good” job.
@ Guggi:
Which were paid for using money borrowed from China, that their grandchildren will pay for.
Welcome to my world where I get to choose every three years.
I can vote for a socialist conservative Labour Party; that doesn’t really want to understand the market and just screws it up and gets into debt . Or I can get to vote for a conservative socialist who talks the conservative talk but acts like a socialist when it counts because they love the power over the hoi Poloi.
.
Some Choice ehhhh?
@ lobo91:
Very true lobo.
Unfortunately.
Actually you can trace it back to the 1890s through to the mid 1930s when the progressive establishment bedded itself deep into the system
The US survives this long simply because it was very robust. Greece… not so much! It just took longer for the progressives to ‘get’ the US that’s all.
So the next Republican, whose turn it is, will be Chris Cristie or Jeb Bush
Don’t know when I’ll get to vote again. Not sure who in 8 or 12 years
waldensianspirit wrote:
Not sure that it’ll even matter at that point.
We’ll have a debt to GDP ratio of well over 100% before then, at which point we’re done.
Well, I’ve had enough fun for one night.
I’m going to go to bed and stare at the ceiling while contemplating how things got this screwed up.
WSJ estimates that by 2027 91% of US tax will go to debt servicing and welfare.
Not too much left over for all the rest is there?
You can then join us (right now) where there are more LTC and above than there are Captains and Lieutenants in the military.
And all feathering their nests on the peoples’ dime.
There is a German journalist, Hannes Stein, who became an US-citizen in the last years. Usually he is a more conservative wrting for “Weltwoche” (Switzerland) and “Die Welt” (Germany). He claims he is lsited as a Republican but he wrote an article in “Die Welt” why he is voting for O.
1) He doesn’t see why Obamacare should harm the country and healthcare workes well in Switzerland, though it will work well in the U.S.A.
2) Romney wouldn’t change O.’s foreign policy and people have enough of the wars like Iraq and Iran. Both wouldn’t be that anti-Israel as Eisenhower was 1956. Beghazi is only a stupid conspiracy theory of the Republicans and that the killed mabassador didn’t get more protection was only a mistake and such misjudgments can happen everywhere.
3) The GOP is rotten from the core -- all of this is Bush’s fault -- and they see the Democrats as some sort of Communists which is ridiculous they are not even near. In his opinion Democrats are liberal thinkers who care also for the country.
Link
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The bad and sad joke is that he admits that the European “Wohlfahrtsstaat” is no longer payable but he doesn’t mention with one word the O. deficits, his stimulus, the mounting debts and the economy in shreds.
Btw.: he is a strong defender of Israel. Nonetheless I won’t read his articles anymore.
G’nite Lob
Sorry for the spelling.
Not very comforting to think the only light at the end of this tunnel is the the day I/we get to say “Told you so …”
Yet another pretend conservative.
Now the US is even importing RINOs. I thought you guys already had enough!
@ Guggi:
Making the rounds on facebook:
Q. Why did Obama need a second term?
A. To chop off American’s second testicle
They are SOOOOOooo clueless, so moronic that none of ‘em ‘got it’ that their idol/hero Steven Colbert goofed on Glenn Beck mercilessly for advising his audience to buy ‘food insurance’ in prep for some type of disaster, natural or otherwise and now the NYC/NJ Colbert audience is begging for such supplies… AAAhhh, I can’t even finish this … they are sooo F*CKIN” CLUELESS that my heads about to explode just typing this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CLUELESS F*CKIN’ LIBERAL FOOLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And how ya feelin’ about now Colbert you traitorous pr*ck -- BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS … f*ck it, f*ck YOU !!!!
@ Aussie Infidel:
The American people don’t care about the blood he has. This man is teflon thanks to the media.
@ lobo91:
Are you sure about that?
@ Aussie Infidel:
How do you distinguish between a conservative and a reactionary?
Aussie Infidel wrote:
yep and I’m in shock.
@ Rodan:
Unfortunately, tonight taught me one thing. More than half of voting Americans do NOT share the same values I do.
That is very sad indeed.
@ Rodan:
Only the beginning too.
Well this sucks. While Romney ran a flawed campaign (another subject for another time) I lay this stinking pile of scheiss squarely at the feet of the Bush family who took the Republican brand which was in sterling shape in 1988 and promptly drove it into the ground. I swear to God, if I ever hear the name George W. Bush uttered in my presence something bad will happen.
Rodan, you and I have had the discussion before. I believe the conservative movement died on Jan. 20 1989 and the Bush family were the undertakers.
I have nothing in common with the people that voted for Obama..nothing. Our visions of America couldn’t be more different. How do we reconcile that? How do we as a country continue with a single identity when such a vast number of us are at total odds with the rest? I don’t think we can. We need a country to call our own.
Emperor wrote:
That is what they have done in Europe and still do in France for decades. It’s called welfare state.
@ ThreeHundred:
I hear you but I don’t know if a country of our own will work. Where do we find this country?
@ ThreeHundred:
I agree with the sentiment 100%. As for myself I will continue to live according to the founding principles of rugged individualism and self reliance. My own little Constitutional experiment if you will. It’s all I have left at this point.
And to think Romney promised energy independence. I’ve always felt that the proof positive that we were ‘insane’ as a nation is that we let out own natural resources sit below us untapped while buying same from our enemies was. Imagine if you ran your own household like this ? Freakin’ bat sh*t crazy -- the ol’ lady would have your bags packed.
Knowing that this will now never happen in my life time when we were soooo freakin close…. I seriously am not looking forward to waking up in the morning….I don’t need another 16 waking hours of this anxiety. I just watched our country pop off a round to the noggin and I’m not dealing well with the sight of it. Not trying to be overly dramatic here but i’m serious -- I don’t want to go to bed because I don’t want to face tomorrow. Tomorrow was supposed to be a ray of hope. I wanted to wake up to the sun beaming through my windows, relaxing with my morning coffee knowing that my country was finally going to get on the right track. I looked forward to the enthusiasm of those who wanted to ‘create’ finally feeling they had a break coming.
How to I explain to the younger ones that the boot is about to apply more pressure and almost assuredly things are only going to get worse. Marriage ? A house ? Kids ? “Sorry guys, I really wouldn’t advise it right now.” Well, when ??? “I can’t really say …”. Isn’t this the time I should be planning these things ? I’m not gettin’ any younger.
“Sorry, you may have to sit this one out kid”. Nice. Real F’n nice ….
@ Lost
@ Mr. Paul Revere
I wish I had answers, for my small children’s sake. May they forgive, for what we have left them.
@ ThreeHundred:
May they understand that ‘we’ didn’t leave it for them, we did what we could in law abiding civilized society. Mine will know, form my words, exactly what my feelings are. I hope that if yours are too young to know that you didn’t take a part in burning this b*tch down, you or someone you know/trust will explain to them someday, who you were and what you stood for. I understand exactly what you are saying and how you are feeling right now. Every action/decision I’ve made over the past 25+ years has been with their futures in mind. To think supposed ‘adults’ helped usher in this .. this…. mess… absolutely boggles my mind.
I only hope their own kids curse them and their memories.
@ ThreeHundred: Best wishes to you. Don’t despair. Its time to start plotting our comeback.
pimfcity: ‘from’,,,, words/deeds etc etc. 2 days now, no sleep. First 36 = anticipation -- in a positive way. The rest = apprehension.
Time to face the facts and try to rest before I bring on the big one. Feelin’ a bit ill. F*ck tomorrow.
Moe Katz wrote:
a reactionare wants to establish a political system with anti-democratic rules (no elections) and where people have no say (like in Europe during the 18th century or more modern with dictators). A conservative is values based and rejects the ruling of the plebs and a conservative rejects to much government.
That’s why the founding fathers introduced checks and balances into the US-constitution. The founding fathers were more on the side of Aristotle the Europeans have always been on the side of Platon.
“Democracy” -- this was the criticism of Aristotle on Platon -- leads to the ruling of the plebs this means decisions are not made to the best of the country and all people in this country but what fits best the plebs.
Guggi wrote:
but what fits the plebs best. Better ?
It’s like the zombie-apocolypse, we’re outnumbered, and no amount of wishing, hoping or voting will get us out of this future.
@ Guggi:
What is in the best interest of the plebs, I’d say.
Here is Wikipedia’s take on it.
If ever there was a solid case for moving on from a failed presidency, it was this, and it didn’t happen..system broke.
@ ThreeHundred:
Let’s put this in perspective. A particular ethnic group comprising 13% of the population voted over 90% for a candidate of said ethnicity. This won’t always be the case.
@ Moe Katz:
‘The problem with Scotland, is, it’s full of Scotts’ -Longshanks.
…that arguement?
@ ThreeHundred:
Not sure if that’s what I meant. I just think that ethnic bloc voting of that magnitude would likely be a self-limiting phenomenon.
I can’t help wondering how Herman would have made out, if his personal peccadilloes hadn’t scuppered his boat.
Does an ideological block have rights that can be denied by the Federal system? I think that is at issue here. We will forever, as things stand now, be denied self-determination and governance. This is a problem.
Maybe I should just join the ‘I don’t want to bother working, so I’ll just sit here in my @ss and wait for a handout’ portion of America.
@ mfhorn:
I have considered that as well, …just let it all fail, then rebuild for the better.
Moe Katz wrote:
I don’t agree with it. It refers only to the time since the name came up but that’s not true. This is as if you would claim “terrorism” was invented by the French Revolution only because they called it “le terreur” the first time. But there was “terrorism” long before the French Revolutuion think e.g. of the Waldensians in France or the Jews and Romans after Massada when hundred of thousands Jewish women, children and elderly were killed only because they were Jews.
The re-establisment of the Emporer in the Roman Empire was nothing else than reactionism.
ThreeHundred wrote:
..and with the decision of the Supreme Court on Obamacare you can’t count on them anymore to defend the constitution. It isn’t like it was with Roosevelt’s first New Deal when die Supreme Court put it in shreds.
@ Guggi:
Oh, sure. I think they’re more focused on the terms themselves, and how they came to define the political spectrum.
@ Guggi:
The constitution has been voided by this administration.
It was a fine Republic while it lasted.
Good luck everyone. Glad Nothreat was Not here to witness this.
See you on the other side.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
That about sums it up.
At the moment, at least, I’m tending to agree with ‘ThreeHundred.” It was a battle between the “Free” army and the “Free Shit” army. And the “Free Shit” army is now clearly in the majority. This was foretold by Franklin, De Toqueville and others over two centuries ago, and it appears it may have come to pass. If it has, there may be no way back.
ThreeHundred wrote:
Yep and it will become worse.
Mike C. wrote:
I totally agree with you and “ThreeHundred”
@ Mike C.:
There is no way back, believe me, we Europeans know this.
The only difference is that many Americans are armed, where as Europeans, for the most part, disarmed themselves decades ago. Whether this matters is still to be seen. No rational person would wish for this to become a decisive factor, but the possibilities are rapidly narrowing.
Mike C. wrote:
Oh, c’mmon you betray yourself. Armed or not armed nothing will happen.
@ Guggi:
Probably correct.
@ Mike C.:
I don’t wish for an armed conflict anyway. I’m not unarmed, but I’m not that good a shot. And I certainly don’t want my children and grandchildren in such a thing.
Hope you guys in Europe don’t need another rescue, because if that happens, all you’ll get from this side of the Atlantic next time is an answering machine or a redirect to the Happy Happy Free Shit site. Good luck!
ThreeHundred wrote:
That’s why I’m a secessionist.
Since that isn’t likely to happen anytime soon, we will be looking for someplace else to spend what little is left of our lifetimes.
Curse me out if you will, but we can’t survive here.
Guggi wrote:
Yup.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
I find myself envying her. Sad.
Good morning everyone. Well, good in we are still alive. A little something to take your minds off the past night.
@ Emperor:
Four more years of $1`trillion deficits. By 2016, we will be over $21 trillion in debt. I don’t see how we can ever dig out of that hole. We’re done. This term will break the back of America. There will be no recovery from the Depression that we are in.
@ Iron Fist:
The free world just got a whole lot less free.
@ 1389AD:
There you go again. Advocating a civil war while annoucing your (pie-in-the sky) plans to run away while others fight it.
I told myself when I woke up this morning and read the news that I would be hearing this from you.
I’m just not in the mood for this kind of crap this morning… Have fun in Russia or wherever…
Mike C. wrote:
Thanks to your long-time occupation you get to spend the vast majority of your time on foreign shores, making a decent living, while everyone else suffers here. Other than the fact that you still intend to retain US citizenship (at least for now), how is that any different?
For all intents and purposes, the US Constitution and the rule of law has been rendered null and void. It WILL take a revolution to restore it. But you won’t be there to fight it -- you’ll be overseas making a much better living than I can possibly make here.
I’ve got that 2nd interview for the job with DirecTV this afternoon. This should be interesting- my feet are still killing me after working the polling place yesterday (my pedometer shows I walked over 5 miles). This opening is SO close to being a pyramid, but there’s no investment required (no ‘buy in’). But you do have to get 2 people under you to get promoted. I might look at doing it part time to see what it’s like. And keep looking for something else full time!
@ mfhorn:
Never quit looking.
@ Prebanned:
But..but..I want to be like the OBots and just sit there with my hand out, waiting for flying unicorns to crap gold in my hand!
Sadly, my wife is an Obot. But at least she puts in a hard day’s work at her job.
@ mfhorn:
Start a “company” with your wife as the owner, apply for grant.
Might as well get a few crumbs of the next 5 trillion.
Might be more than that if we bail out California.
I don’t see how the country does not vote for the democrats in 2016 no matter what happens in the next four years.
@ 1389AD:
Yeah, I’m really enjoying all the time I get to spend in the Turd World, away from my family and my home while working 7 days a week.
That’s sarcasm, FYI. And I spent 7 months this year alone totally unemployed, adding to my years of doing so, so don’t give me that crap -- I ain’t buying.
I remarked yesterday that when I went to my polling place I witnessed the Post Office arrive, en masse and in uniform looking worried.
During the day yesterday, on the factory floor at work, I witnessed no less than three frantic phone calls by idiots chiding their significant others that they HAD to go vote for Obama.
Obama got out his vote through fear and lies that Romney was going to TAKE something away from the American people.
Bumr50 wrote:
That won’t work in 2016, there won’t be anything left.
@ Prebanned:
Hmmm. That’s an idea. She IS a government auditor.
As far as 2016, it’s hard to say. I saw someone pushing a Hillary/Queen Michelle ticket then. Good God no.
Tea Party has to get its act together. We’ve got to stop this agenda as best we can.
Not sure what the result will be for Col. West. Last I see shows him down by about 2,000 votes.
@ mfhorn:
If the tea party took some interest in environmental issues they would be the green tea party.
In 2000, the left reacted to its peculiar loss by venting its rage against the Constitution, vowing to eliminate the Electoral College. It never did so, but never abandoned its broader ambition fundamentally to transform the nation’s constitutional foundation. Our reaction must be the opposite: to re-affirm our commitment to the Constitution, though it means losing this battle, and to find the courage for the long struggle that lies ahead.
We now know that all the pundits saying the polls can’t be right were full of shit. Michael Barone was so far off the mark with his forecast, he too has shown himself useless. This nation has voted itself into a corner and I don’t see it changing anytime soon, surely not in what’s left of my life!
I wept for the nation as I went to bed last, and no better feelings returned to me this morning. Long hard days are in store and I only hope this nation is strong enough to weather that storm.
And what a fucked-up way to mark my 52nd birthday. Fuck.
Sad day for America. Our enemies must be cheering.
Tanker wrote:
I doubt it. The “Army of the Free stuff” has tasted blood and it will not give up. Look at Europe. Even our “conservatives” are more like O. than even JFK.
If you look for a third (a fourth/fifth will follow) party be aware what happens in Europe. Whomoever you elect you get a coalition with the same sh*t you wanted to vote out. Germany’s next government is to be said a coalition between CDU/CSU and the Greenies. Good night Germany. Greenies are the real cancer of the earth.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Yes they do.
Macker wrote:
Happy Birthday, Macker !
Mike C. wrote:
I don’t CARE whether you are enjoying yourself or not. The point I’m making is that, when you are out of the US, you are able to survive. In the US, not so much.
“…so don’t give me that crap — I ain’t buying…”
I don’t CARE about your self-righteous attitude. Save it for your OWN blog.
Facts are facts. We’re looking at the end of the Weimar Republic. We are looking at Russia in 1917. There’s no payoff in going down with the ship.
@ 1389AD:
ADDENDUM
Oh, as as to your suggestion that I would even consider revoking my US citizenship, here’s a hearfelt “Eff you!” to you and the horse you rode in on.
Macker wrote:
Happy birthday!
(not a masochist, huh)
The Muslims are happy.
Mike C. wrote:
Of course you won’t revoke it. It’s the basis of your snotty self-righteousness to maintain “citizenship” in a country that you can’t make a living in, and in which your vote and your voice no longer counts for anything, and that has completely abandoned all the principles it was founded on.
You aren’t a citizen, you’re a subject. Face it.
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED??????????????????????????????
/OH,and happy birthday, Macker!
@ Guggi:
So true, My first tour of duty in Germany started in 1974. My last year there was 2001 (11.5 years there). The differences even I saw as an outsider was striking. I don’t look forward (god I’m starting to hate that word)to what’s in store for us.
Macker, Happy Birthday!
@ Urban Infidel:
Somehow the 47% turned into 51% without us seeing it!
@ Urban Infidel:
the gimme free shit group seems to outnumber the freedom group
oh btw
the 2.something trillion $ debt limit is about to expire
1389AD wrote:
And you’re an ass and a self-professed coward. FYI, I spent the previous 4 contract years working in Houston, which, last I heard, was still considered by many to be part of the US.
Like I said earlier, enjoy Russia. Last time you named names, I believe that was your “bastion of freedom” of choice.
“Rather, proclaim it, Warwick, throughout my host.
He that hath no stomach for this fight,
let hime depart.
His passport shall be made, and crowns for convoy put into his purse.
We would not die in that man’s presence, who fears his fellowship to die with us.”
@ Mike C.:
Mike, you can’t force anyone to fight and when you do they tend to shoot you in the back when you aren’t looking. Let them go! They tend to be more trouble than help!
@ Tanker:
@ rain of lead:
Atlas’s post sums up my feelings.
Tanker wrote:
I wrote here sometime ago that I suspected that the golf courses near DC will continue to be used an awful lot in the next four years. I predicted that Romney would win the popular vote but the golfer in chief would take the EVs. Not all the votes are counted so that prediction may still come true.
The reason why I came to this conclusion was based on a book by Hamilton Jordan on the last year of the Carter administration. As Carter’s campaign manager Jordan stated that in his opinion:
The campaign that disses the polls as being technically flawed is the campaign that is behind. The polls are usually accurate.
The size and the enthusiasm of the crowds have no bearing on the eventual result. Losing campaigns usually draw the biggest and most enthusiastic crowds as with McGovern in ’72, Carter in ’80, Mondale in ’84 etc.
What with this and NTheat2U this is an extremely depressing time. I suppose Tingles and Chuckles have had an orgasmic dose of schadenfreude
@ Urban Infidel:
Ditto
Truly a black day!
I went to bed middle class. I wake up a wealthy man. At least according to the administrations figures. Prepare for the taxes.
BOHICA!!
Mike C. wrote:
If you say that about me then you know nothing about me. Leaving a place doesn’t make anybody a coward. Where did your ancestors come from? Were they cowards?
Go back to your own blog, such as it is.
James Carville on CNN reckons that the Tea Party cost the Repubs 4 or 5 Senate seats. I don’t know about that but we must accept that Carville knows his politics. I am gutted about Scott Brown and West. However Mourdock and Akins deserved their defeats. Carville also opinion-ed that Romney was undone by two factors, one of which, Sandy, was beyond his control. The other was the calamitous collapse in Republican support from Hispanic voters.
In’04 Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote which enabled him to carry NV, NM, Florida and CO. He still just managed to eke a narrow win over Kerry. This year Romney received a fraction of that number and this is the result.
@ SciFiGuy:
Taxes go up for everybody in January. It will make a substantial difference. And sequestration is coming. Obama is going to gut the military, and there’s not a damned thing the Republicans can do to stop it. We should have made a bigger issue of what a big failure Obama has been. Everybody was afraid to directly attack him for fear of being called a RAAAAACIST. Guess what? They called us racists anyway. I don’t know that more negative ads would have helped, but in the final analysis they couldn’t have hurt. We need to get mean. Nice guys finish last. Obama didn’t have a problem insinuating that Romney klilled a woman, after all. POinting out that Obama killed our Ambassador through his neglect of the situation seems only, well, truthful.
@ 1389AD:
ONly if you go back to yours first, dear.
West Lost? Done in by the Republicans in Florida. They can’t handle the truth keeps ringing in my ears!:cry:
Tanker wrote:
Last night proved that there are a lot of people who can’t handle the truth. Gawd, I’m just sick at heart.
@ Tanker:
This is a disaster. There is no putting a pretty face on it. I don’t think we can come back from another four years like the last four. And Obama is just getting started. Remember, he’ll have more flexibility now. He is going to rule like a king, and there is NOTHING that the Republicans can do about it.
Tanker wrote:
So did Mia Love.
@ eaglesoars:
Both to vote margins that raise the question of voter fraud. Not theat the Democrats would ever engage in voter fraud…
Mike C. wrote:
This is not your blog. I did not come here to trash you. Until you started badmouthing me last night I held my tongue about you.
And you will refrain from calling me “dear.”
Just disgusted. Period.
Iron Fist wrote:
I can think of one good thing to maybe come of this if the Rs have the stomach for it.
Impeach the fucker. Benghazi.
Grayson wins…West lost
Florida has officially become a southern Northeast State.
Had really high hopes for Mia Love!
Good Lord, 7,971 people in Florida alone voted for Roseanne Barr.
Iron Fist wrote:
It is also going to haunt Obama in the next four years. He will be only too happy to leave the WH. Second Terms have been more difficult than first terms and on this issue the message will quickly be “Congratulations Mr. President. Now, about Benghazi, you’ve got some ‘spaining to do.”
Reality raises its ugly head:
No telling what the Mad Duck congress will do with this. If we hadn’t retained the House, last night would have been a worse disaster than it was, though it is bad enough to destroy the country. I don’t guess it’d have made much of a difference if the Donks had won the house last night. Obama weill rule by Executive Order, and there is nothing we can do about that with only one house of the Congress.
I am wondering if I am wasting my time volunteering at the food bank feeding the 51%.
Because every two years they vote themselves more of my money.
African Moondog wrote:
Who will ask the questions? Even Fox is weak on this front. The press doesn’t give a shit, so I don’t see it as being an issue for him.
The real level of how bad this will be is when the SCOTUS is lost for the next twenty years!
@ eaglesoars:
Can;t impeach him. There is absolutley no way the Democrat Senate will convict, no matter what evidence you present. That is a given. The Republicans should have lined up behind Nixon. There is nothing to be said for having too many morals. Our enemies use that to defeat us.
@ African Moondog:
errrr
benghazi….
just some right wing rethuglican made up story
nothing to see here
msm
1389AD wrote:
In all fairness, you seem to have come here to trash this entire country and share your fantasies/plans about leaving. You’re much like the liberals who were “going to move” in ’00 and ’04 in that respect.
People here have suffered an enormous loss because we love our country -- trashing her at this moment is extremely bad form and, quite frankly, infuriating.
Obama will bankrupt America…then go on the air and tell America we have to start over…and then tear up the constitution R.I .P. America.
Ok, coldwarrior, I’m here. Bring out the ferb and the outsider
R’s in the house ain’t gonna say shit
ain’t gonna do shit
@ Iron Fist:
Just as des robed on atlas shrugged….evil will use your own good, generous nature against you.
We’re doomed.
back to bed. long nite.
1389AD wrote:
Don’t be telling Mike C. to leave
Tanker wrote:
Here again, for a civilian to leave a place doesn’t make him or her a coward. I’m not deserting from the military, and would never advocate anybody doing so (or breaking any other laws for that matter). I wouldn’t think of libeling your ancestors as cowards for having left wherever they were to come to what was then the land of opportunity.
rain of lead wrote:
They will be bought and some quite cheaply
@ MacDuff:
Our country no longer loves us or anything that we stand for, and probably never will.
It is indeed a tremendous loss.
@ Kirly:
Yes, we are Doomed™. There is no doubt of that. Four more years of Obama means we’ll be $21 trillion in debt by the end of it. At least. Obama may crank up the spending just because he ca, now. He doesn’t care about anything but destroying this country. He is spending us to death.
rain of lead wrote:
They (R’s) are already talking about having to work with the other side…spit!!!
Until the R’s understand that politics is war and all weapons available are to be used to their fullest….we will lose!
Iron Fist wrote:
Yep he’ll go beyond the 21 easily
@ eaglesoars:
I’m off to the gym. I need to run.
The greatest country on earth…killed from inside….
Storagemanager wrote:
Biblical
MacDuff wrote:
Mac, at this point I do not know who I stand for. I follow a flag, designed to represent the greatest nation on earth. But half of that nation just voted to be enslaved to a government rather than for liberty and opportunity. We can all bitch about the outcome of the election, the “stain” left by Bush, the failed opportunities to put a spotlight on the failed policies and actions of the current administration and the bleak future my nation faces. But none of that matters. Half the nation chose “I am getting
mineyours”.waldensianspirit wrote:
not a matter of being bought
they just got waxed in a national election
the leadership and mostof the repub congressmen
are a pack of feckless cowards
and will now go 100% “go along to get along”
I didn’t hit bold. Sorry.
1389AD wrote:
I never said you should leave….You said you were leaving! Go or stay..makes no difference to me! As far as cowards goes…you are only a coward when you quit but still have means to fight! If your means/will to fight is gone, the do as you want. I have means and the will still burning in me!
Hello,
no november surprise. Obama won as expected, so no ferb-spanking today please
@ ferb123:
Hi ferb, yes your man won
@ Storagemanager:
All great nations typically fall from within. Rarely are they destroyed by outside forces.
bluliner10 wrote:
We should stand for defending the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The Muslim brotherhood are very happy…
Now comes accountability. I had planned to hold Romney’s feet to the fire to get the economy going and make a fiscally sound government with a solid currency
Those of you who voted for the ONE…enjoy your new war…
@ ferb123:
just curious
how does a weaker america help germany?
but,but,but
I don’t want to live in interesting times
Ottoman rising….enjoy
rain of lead wrote:
please explain what you mean by “weaker america”
Thank to President Obama…this will be a SUNNI nation.
@ Tanker:
I don’t have any means to fight other than the blog, and I can do that from somewhere else if need be. I cannot make a living here despite being employed as far as the official stats are concerned. I’m just not making enough money to starve on and my husband is seriously ill.
The taxes of every US citizen -- wherever in the world we happen to be working -- have been and will be used to support the socialist/pro-Muslim Obama regime and all that it stands for. In other words, the taxes that we’ve been paying have helped to support the Muslim Brotherhood takeover of the Middle East, as well as Obamacare and taxpayer subsidies for Planned Parenthood. Those who try to protest by not paying their taxes will find the IRS making an example of them and collecting the money anyway.
rain of lead wrote:
More like sickening times.
Storagemanager wrote:
Alas, it’s mourning in America……..
PaladinPhil wrote:
They generally don’t come back within the lifetimes of those who were around when they fell.
Four brave American’s are dead…and their President wants to forget them….yes…ferb…..enjoy the win.
@ MacDuff:
The problem is the enemy is us. Republicans did not lose last night, the USA lost last night. Without a USA, the world lost. The storm clouds are there, and we scheduled a barbeque.
I don’t think we are going to fall.
Then again I have a lot to learn about my fellow Americans.
I guess keeping your mouth shut and voting for free stuff is the new normal.
bluliner10 wrote:
This is definitely the gravest domestic threat since the Civil War and I sense great upheaval in our future. Yes, we all lost last night, and the people who think they won will, in the end, be the biggest losers of all.
“…..what fools these mortals be.”
No….the new normal.
The people that voted for Obama…..have no idea what they just did…but…they will…they will.
Storagemanager wrote:
They’re textbook examples of “Battered Wife Syndrome” and they just decided to renew their vows.
1389AD wrote:
If you don’t have the means to live/eat, how are you going to start over some places else?
I am so disappointed in my country (at least 1/2 the country).
@ MacDuff:
If it wasn’t such a dire forecast I would offer you kudos for the wisdom of your words.
I feel the dark shadows of the coming times.
Forewarned America, forewarned.
You guys have got to stop nominating the Akin, Mourdock, O’Donnell, Angle, Buck, Miller crowd. Once you stop doing that, then you can criticize the rest of the electorate for their votes.
The new America… heroes die and are forgotten…the man that leaves them hailed a hero and a given rewards.
@ theoutsider:
I would say go to hell…..but..we are already there…enjoy it.
@ theoutsider:
Nope, absolutely wrong, Democrats run criminals and you pathetically vote for them. Good to go!
theoutsider wrote:
We can criticize any goddammed thing we please, thank you. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to ignoring your bootlicking ass.
@ theoutsider:
ya know
that is the first thing you have said that I agree with
we do need better candidates
Tanker wrote:
1389AD gives off a distinct odor of bullshit.
@ rain of lead:
but alas
that ship has sailed
once you start sliding off the moutain
it’s just too hard to stop
rain of lead wrote:
We are to become Rome….only one man will matter from now on.
The Stock-market promptly endorses Obama by dropping 100 points in the first 30 seconds…
I take it everyone else feels as though they’ve been somehow transported to Wonderland this morning?
Brick wrote:
Yep
@ rain of lead:
Thank You. Run sane candidates. You’ll win most of the time.
MacDuff wrote:
Watch your filthy mouth.
Suffice it to say that I have some skills that can be put to use anywhere else where there is still a functioning economy.
Down 200 points now…
@ doriangrey:
morning dorian
how are you doing
it sucked this morning trying to buck up my girl this morning
Obamas win left her broken hearted and tearful
day in history ..
@ doriangrey:
wheeeee
this is gonna be funnnnn……
or not
doriangrey wrote:
Obama will bankrupt America…then go on the air and tell America we have to start over…and then tear up the constitution R.I .P. America.
I messed up the last post…sorry
1389AD wrote:
Filthy mouth? You should see what I edited out!
Be sure it’s a place that welcomes aggrieved whiners, that seems to be your primary talent. Can I help you pack? Buh bye.
I feel like it’s every man for himself at this point.
Trying to logically think this through, is there even any point in conducting analysis of how we got here, who’s to blame, etc. other than for historical posterity?
Unless I’m missing something fundamental, the body politic spoke pretty clearly yesterday that the majority those within our borders prefers free stuff over freedom and that is a mindset I simply cannot understand.
It seems the free shit army has overrun our positions.
Al Arabiya very happy Obama won http://english.alarabiya.net/
Storagemanager wrote:
It’s ok, I understood it.
The Fed (i.e. the plungers) are pumping cash into the market like there is no tomorrow trying to stem the collapse, I doubt it’s going to work since the more cash the pump in, the less each dollar is worth.
@ Brick:
Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
de Toqueville
Brick wrote:
Obama has succeeded in cementing our differences; Lincoln saved our Union, Obama is destroying it.
bluliner10 wrote:
And that is what happened last night, De Tocqueville’s warning became a reality.
Revenge begins now.
bluliner10 wrote:
“Some are more equal than others”
George Orwell, Animal Farm
The real tragedy is that we’ve seen this coming for a century, they gave us their playbook and people like de Toqueville and Orwell gave us detailed warnings.
November 6th 2012 Alexis de Tocqueville’s warning became a reality.
@ MacDuff:
Socialism/communism assures one thing and one thing only.
The equal sharing of misery.
Storagemanager wrote:
I don’t see how that’s possible within our lifetimes. After all, we are not going to take up arms and massacre everybody who voted for Obama. That’s not how we roll. We’ve lost any input into public opinion and even the GOP won’t listen to us.
Gas already up 7 to 8 cents a gallon since yesterday in my area.
Enjoy your re-elected president & new Senate members, America, you totally deserve them.
Welcome to the New American Century: Venezuelan style!
@ doriangrey:
I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.
theoutsider wrote:
Believe it or not I actually agree. GOP candidates for Senate need to handle those rape/abortion “gotcha” questions with a simple “My personal beliefs are my own. Next question!”.
Flyovercountry wrote:
Yup, we’re pretty much doomed.
rain of lead wrote:
We need to have runoff primaries so these Sharron Angle, Todd Akin types do not sneak in with 34% of the vote.
Flyovercountry wrote:
We’re definitely two Americas with only our common defense holding us together; now that Obama has been reelected, even that is looking pretty tenuous.
@ Speranza:
You guys left out Allen. Yea, I voted for him but he’s part of problem, not the solution.
One of the beltway RINO good ol’ boys who helped spend us into oblivion under Bush & never let a small sliver of pork sneak by him.
1389AD wrote:
Education…Skills are all fine and dandy!
It’s like I tell my grown kids! If they aren’t feeding you then another COA is needed! Just don’t whine about it to me.
Leave…Stay, just let it go!
For me and mine we will fight for this nation until the end!
Flyovercountry wrote:
The Fed is desperately attempting to keep the Dow above 13,000, and it doesn’t look like it’s working. I suspect once it drops below 13,000 it will go into free fall.
Two Americas, not on speaking terms
/Michael Barone
Excerpts:
bluliner10 wrote:
I’m a simple guy. Equal opportunity vs. equal outcome.
Speranza wrote:
Yeah, when people are “primaried out” the candidate that’s “primaried in” should be someone who can friggin’ win. Most of the time, even an unreliable RINO is better than a damned Democrat.
@ John Difool:
Good grief he (George Allen) lost too!
I wanted him to win because I wanted to fire Harry Reid.
And what’s with Massachusetts -- they elect Scott Brown in 2010 and he is a “moderate Republican” and they dump him for a liar named Elizabeth Warren???
All three candidates I contributed to lost -- Mitt Romney,Scott Brown and Mia Love!
the biggest winner in this election, by far. is the MSM….they are finally entrenched in the loop and are calling the shots…chew on that
@ 1389AD:
1389, sorry about being shitty towards you last night, but last night was pretty bad for a lot of us for obvious reasons.
Just realize this. America is the shining light of liberty & freedom and the last best hope of the world & when that light is extinguished there will be no where to run, nowhere to hide where the darkness will not find you.
It’s not time to give up. Now more than ever it’s time to double-down & fight ever harder. I implore you to not give up on America . If you do realize this…..
You’ve given up on the world.
@ heysoos:
America has lost.
The GOP House should go into pure opposition.
And there it goes…
DJIA $DJI
12,997.10
-248.58
(-1.88%)
NASDAQ $COMP
2,954.42
-57.51
(-1.91%)
S&P 500 $SPX
1,400.75
-27.64
(-1.94%)
NYSE $NYA
8,161.63
-150.7232
(-1.81%
doriangrey wrote:
Dollar is in a free-fall right now. The markets really don’t like what just happened.
@ John Difool:
Hopefully American resilience will overcome the abortion of a President it just re-elected.
@ doriangrey:
People with skin in the game are definitely not happy with being told by those without that they are the enemy, and to just fork it all over without a peep.
For a couple of years now, the run up of equity prices was more a measure of the loos of value in the dollar relative to tangible things like food and clothing. Equities are still the best place for your money right now, but that’s because in that endeavor your are investing in something that’s real, companies that produce food and clothing.
I wonder which percentage of the 23 million unemployed/underemployed/people who just gave up looking for jobs -- voted for Obama?
Flyovercountry wrote:
I’m a secessionist myself, and freely acknowledge it, in person as well as on our own blog. The federal government has become a centralized tyranny of the majority, and the rest of us no longer have any rights. It would be better to salvage some subset of the States under a limited federal government that abides by the Constitution, than to lose everything, that being the track we are on now. I see no other way of breaking that tyranny of the majority.
*putting prediction hat on*
I can see some likelihood of new regional countries forming themselves after the coming economic and financial collapse. You could call that secession by default, much like what happened in the former Soviet Union. Some level of violence is extremely probable, but not inevitable.
You can’t run up this amount of debt and keep the system going. Not gonna happen.
Here again, this is a PREDICTION. It is not what I WANT to happen. I would rather see a peaceful breakup via Constitutional amendment, as happened in the former Czechoslovakia.
Flyovercountry wrote:
And that will only remain the case until Obama or is successor nationalize all industry to pay off their debts.
John Difool wrote:
I’ll be damned if I turn my back on my country.
Speranza wrote:
People decided they just haven’t had it bad enough yet & can palate plenty more misery.
I hope they open up wide & say ahhhh, because theres plenty more coming down pipe.
As good as things looked yesterday at this time, in the back of my mind I reminded myself that 7 million new folks on welfare & about 70-80k new government employees was a feature, not a bug to this administration.
They’ll work harder than ever the next four years to increase those numbers ever further not realizing the hard lessons that were learned last century.
It always works until you run out of other peoples money & then, then……the collapse.
Speranza wrote:
Our founders had faith in America when there was no evidence whatsoever that they would be successful, in fact, all the evidence pointed against them. That’s what faith is all about and that’s where we are right now.
@ John Difool:
How the f*ck is the USD gaining ground on the Canadian Dollar? I mean seriously?
MacDuff wrote:
Better a RINO then a Democrat. Taking control of the Senate is far too important.
doriangrey wrote:
This will be a joyless holiday season for me (and you and millions of others).
PaladinPhil wrote:
Have no idea but I know it way down against the euro last i heard a few hours ago unless it rebounded.
Speranza wrote:
Agreed. If Obama has taught us anything, it’s that “change” is a very sharp double-edged sword.
MacDuff wrote:
Historically most two term presidents hit a wall after they reach their 6th year (they go into lame duck mode). If the House GOP holds firm and acts like an opposition party well maybe, just maybe -- there might be something to build on. Also most two term presidents second terms are worse then their first term.
We are not a center-right nation anymore. Probably haven’t been for a while, but the pundits keeps telling us that we are. I don’t blame the GOP or Romney or the campaign managers, anyone for this. We have to understand once and for all that we are up against a dangerously ignorant and easily-fooled citizenry. Our country is so far adrift from its original principles that I don’t see how we can correct the course at this point.
I was looking forward to Romney and Ryan raising the bar for what we should aspire to. Instead thuggery and evil has prevailed. Driving through brooklyn this morning I saw the gas lines, the police, the barricades, the lines of people holding gas containers, the stopped traffic, the despair. I saw a glimpse of armegeddon. I’m trying to uplift my attitude but I’m profoundly sad for our country.
Speranza wrote:
America will diminish, but nevertheless, 50.3% of voters want a big gov’t entitlement society.
here we are finally…from wiki
The iron law of oligarchy is a political theory, first developed by the German syndicalist sociologist Robert Michels in his 1911 book, Political Parties.[1] It claims that rule by an elite, or “oligarchy”, is inevitable as an “iron law” within any organization as part of the “tactical and technical necessities” of organization.[1] Michels particularly addressed the application of this law to representative democracy, and stated: “It is organization which gives birth to the dominion of the elected over the electors, of the mandataries over the mandators, of the delegates over the delegators. Who says organization, says oligarchy.”[1] He went on to state that “Historical evolution mocks all the prophylactic measures that have been adopted for the prevention of oligarchy.”[1] Michels stated that the official goal of representative democracy of eliminating elite rule was impossible, that representative democracy is a façade legitimizing the rule of a particular elite, and that elite rule, that he refers to as oligarchy, is inevitable.[1]
John Difool wrote:
Apology accepted! I’m way too old to be a grudge holder anyway!
I understand where you’re coming from. I haven’t quite given up on the world. Where I disagree with you is that the US is still the last best hope and that if the light goes out here, it’s out everywhere. I keep up on these things and I see a few lights coming on in other places (hats off to our neighbors to the north). Not many, to be sure, but every little bit helps. I think the lights started to go out in the US after Ronald Reagan left office. The Clintons and the Bushes were disasters that paved the way for the Obama/Jarrett regime. It always seems darkest before it goes completely black -- and I don’t mean that in the racial sense at all!
I believe that it is possible to influence other countries to step up to the plate to become the defenders of freedom and the Judaeo-Christian tradition. The USA is too big and too much under the control of the enemedia for me to make any real impact at this time. Though I won’t stop trying.
Urban Infidel wrote:
This is definitely not the same nation it was in 1980. People just want their handouts and entitlements.
@ 1389AD:
But this was his plan all along.
A lot of folks on the right were convinced Barry’s plan was to weaken America by destroying it’s influence throughout the world & have it groveling at the feet of Europe & the Islamic world. Turn it into a socialist dystopia like we’re seeing in the U.K. right now.
Well it is except that I believe his & his comrades endgame is to divide it right down the middle pitting half the country against the other & see a Soviet style or Yugoslavian style breakup.
Although charity & humanitarianism is in our blood,just the remember this: when the shit hits the fan, take no pity & have no remorse for those who have done us & America harm. Let ‘em starve, freeze & wallow in their misery on the other side of the fence, turn a blind eye to their suffering & a deaf ear to their howling.
They deserve it.
We are the makers, not the takers & makers are survivors.
A co-worker of mine who is a conservative from New Jersey just sent me this email
@ Speranza:
Christie’s wet-kiss to Obama may have been the thing that turned the tide, especially in Virginia. He should be ostracized for it. I’ve never liked Christie anyway. I’d say my low opinion of him has been confirmed in spades.
BuddyG wrote:
Doesn’t matter if the GOP House become pure obstructionists. As we’ve already seen time & time again over the last two years Barry Longshanks cares nothing for the Constitution & rule of law & will continue to put forth xo’s & rule by decree.
At this point the House & Senate are nothing but a facade for a power mad Ceasar, just like in the Roman Empire of old.
Iron Fist wrote:
I loathe the fat ****!
Iron Fist wrote:
We can blame that fuck all we want but with or without sandy i believe the outcome would have been the same, the majority of American voters believe anything the DLSM puts out there & are stuck-on-stupid & would rather turn on Honey Boo Boo than click on a political blog.
John Difool wrote:
I am afraid that you are right there. The next four years are a long, dark hole. I’ve already told my wife that we are going into covering mode. I did what I could this election, adn Tennessee voted 59% for Romney. I simply couldn’t find the resources to go to Ohio and help with their GOTV efforts, though I seriously considered it. Oh, well. I couldn’t have made a difference, anyway. The people have chosen, the bastards, and I don’t believe that they have a clue of what they;ve really set the United States up for. We will fall. By 2016 the Federal Debt will be over $21 trillion. Collapse is inevitible when you have that kind of debt to income ratio. That is worse than what Weimar Germany faced from the Treaty of Versailles, and we all know how that lovely thing turned out. We’re screwed. It really is just a matter of time.
@ Iron Fist:
May be already happening. Markets are in a free-fall right now, Dow looks like it’s crashing.
1389AD wrote:
I was talking about Obamas revenge.
Story over on Drudge right now saying Romney failed to match McCain’s ’08 vote totals & 14 million people less turned out this election.
We are fucked harder than I imagined.
@ John Difool:
the masses of people that could have prevented this, sit on their ass watching tv…it’s just that simple
Speranza wrote:
Yup, he stabbed Romney in the back knowing full well what he was doing.
@ doriangrey:
Wonder if Ann Coulter still gets all hot & bothered when the Stay Puft Marshmallow Governor walks in the room ?
New thread.
This one is well over 500 comments and thus has been giving rise to server errors.
“The election is over and the elitists have won”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100188325/the-election-is-over-and-the-elitists-have-won/
So Obama’s main source of funding was not donations from millions of Joe Averages but handouts from “the tech sector, government and the academy” – his top five funders were “the University of California, Microsoft, Google, the US government, and Harvard”. Executives at Craigslist, Facebook and Google gave maximum donations to Obama’s campaign. As Kotkin points out, these people make their fortunes “not through tangible goods but instead by manipulating and packaging information”, and so they are “generally not interested in the mundane economy of carbon-based energy, large-scale agriculture, housing, and manufacturing”. As such, he says, unlike much of the masses who make a living getting their hands dirty in carbon-based industries, these extravagantly wealthy elitists can “afford to be green and progressive, since they rarely deal with physical infrastructure or unions or the challenges of training lower-skilled workers”.
John Difool wrote:
I like Coulter but her thing for Christie is bizarre.
@ heysoos:
The folks who are so wealthy that they can survive Obamanomics.
Go to your local Wal-Mart or your local mall, “The People of Wal-Mart” are Obama’s constituency, not because of Wal-Mart, but because a good portion of our population have been so dumbed-down by a worthless education system, then coddled and subsidized by government that they’ve lost all hope of achieving anything. Instead of using the bully pulpit of the Presidency to break the tragic cycle of black children and the dissolution of the black family, he’s glorified the destructive culture in order to get their votes. He capitalizes on the misery of every single “interest group” that comprises his constituency by highlighting grievance instead of actual unity. He doesn’t lift people up, he reenforces their victimhood.
He’s not graduated from his “community organizer” (rabble rouser) roots, he just has a nicer office and title.
doriangrey wrote:
Two good things about Chris Christie
1. He defeated the sociopath Jon Corzine
2. He tried to reign in the unions
Other then that he is a bull shit artist.
John Difool wrote:
The fault is not Romney’s but America’s.
Speranza wrote:
Yep.
Lily wrote:
Lots of vote fraud, I’ll bet. They physically threw out GOP election watchers in Philly. They were let back in, but I’m sure the gap was plenty long enough to import some fake ballots or other shenanigans. Now, Philly was going for Obama in any case, so the only purpose would have been to help throw the whole state Obama’s way, which it appears it did.
So sorry to hear Obama won second term. I think it’s not Romneys fault. The stupid people outnumber the smart ones, its that simple.
I’m wondering if Ron Pauls people refusing to vote might have an impact. If I’m not mistaken, he was pretty popular in Ohio.
Look at the bright side, the people that are going to get the most hurt by Obamas policies are Obamas people themselves.
Insulate your selves against the crashing plane. Eg. start keeping your money in a different currency or gold.
When Obama won the first time. 1/2 of grandads stuff went to other places.
Now that he won once more the 1/2 of grandads stuff still here is going out soon.
Last thing to go will be the land, may just keep it and run things from outside and hope that the final fall will come quick and get over fast.
No matter the lies the msm tells, the commie way is a dead end road.