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2012 Election Post #4

by lobo91 ( 570 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012 at November 6th, 2012 - 11:50 pm

Hopefully this will speed things up a bit.

Can’t help with the result, unfortunately.

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  1. song_and_dance_man
    1 | November 6, 2012 11:51 pm

    Am I the FIRST to get 500 errors?


  2. Lily
    2 | November 6, 2012 11:52 pm

    The numbers are changing WZ had obama over 270 and I checked again it was obama at 243….PRAY!


  3. 3 | November 6, 2012 11:52 pm

    What does an Obama win mean for America?


  4. Lily
    4 | November 6, 2012 11:53 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    No ….I couldn’t even get on…


  5. 5 | November 6, 2012 11:53 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Am I the FIRST to get 500 errors?

    No, it’s like Obama……everybody getting screwed. :)


  6. Lily
    6 | November 6, 2012 11:54 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    Oh I don’t want to read it … I know it isn’t good.


  7. Lily
    7 | November 6, 2012 11:56 pm

    Where is everyone now?


  8. 8 | November 6, 2012 11:56 pm

    Well, my day at the polling place was a wild one. I’ve voted at the site I worked for 10 years, and haven’t seen that many people there the over that entire time! We got there at 4:45 this morning, I left at 10p. We closed the doors at 7, closed the doors to the room where the voting was happening at 8, and it took another hour for the last votes to be cast. Wait was as long as 2 hours for some people. When we printed the results, Obozo was up by about 3:1, but I’m in a very heavily Dem. area. I think I was the token Republican.

    My feet hurt. And, in memory of the America that will soon pass away, I’m drinking a Bushmill’s Honey Irish.


  9. rain of lead
    9 | November 6, 2012 11:56 pm

    well
    the election is not compleatly dead, just mostly dead
    mostly dead means a little bit alive
    compleatly dead means digging through Romneys pockets
    and looking for lose change


  10. 10 | November 6, 2012 11:56 pm

    @ Lily:

    Yes, it’s pretty depressing.


  11. song_and_dance_man
    11 | November 6, 2012 11:57 pm

    It’s not over. OH is just 1k vote difference. VA is 8k and Chair hasn’t yet come out to give his TOTUS a workout.


  12. Lily
    12 | November 6, 2012 11:58 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Did you notice the numbers changed?


  13. lobo91
    13 | November 6, 2012 11:58 pm

    FNC just called Nevada for Obama


  14. lobo91
    14 | November 6, 2012 11:59 pm

    Leaves CO, VA and FL.

    And they’re arguing about Ohio on FNC


  15. song_and_dance_man
    15 | November 6, 2012 11:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Where is everyone now?

    They were knocked out with a 500 and never came back.


  16. Lily
    16 | November 7, 2012 12:00 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    It’s not over. OH is just 1k vote difference. VA is 8k and Chair hasn’t yet come out to give his TOTUS a workout.

    Yeah the numbers are changing too….


  17. 17 | November 7, 2012 12:00 am

    So long USA, hello Confederated States of WWA (What was America)


  18. Lily
    18 | November 7, 2012 12:00 am

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Probably so.


  19. Runner
    19 | November 7, 2012 12:01 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    It’s not over. OH is just 1k vote difference. VA is 8k and Chair hasn’t yet come out to give his TOTUS a workout.

    I would love for a Hail Mary to get me out of my funk.


  20. waldensianspirit
    20 | November 7, 2012 12:02 am

    Yea tax the wealthy. Learn Le Chatelier’s Principle the hard way


  21. 21 | November 7, 2012 12:02 am

    What happened to wisdom of men like Benjamin Franklin?

    “I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.

    On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor[5] (29 November 1766).

    and

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

    This was written by Franklin, within quotation marks but is generally accepted as his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as:
    Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


  22. livefreeor die
    22 | November 7, 2012 12:02 am

    @ Lily:
    I’m back.
    Had a good cry. However, I want to see every vote counted before I believe it. Even Fox has drunk the KoolAid tonight.
    I’m done with Christie. Done.
    I’m tired of evil dominating our country. (Random thoughts. Not calling Christie evil. The SCOAMF and crew.)


  23. Mars
    23 | November 7, 2012 12:02 am

    That’s ok at state level here the press called it dems across the board except for the President and that’s 2%.


  24. song_and_dance_man
    24 | November 7, 2012 12:03 am

    Lily wrote:

    Yeah the numbers are changing too….

    According to Google, which I trust more than the OSM, has Mitt up by 20k now in OH


  25. lobo91
    25 | November 7, 2012 12:03 am

    The fact that the state with the highest unemployment rate in the country–Nevada–would vote to keep this asshole proves that we’re finished.


  26. Lily
    26 | November 7, 2012 12:03 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    well
    the election is not compleatly dead, just mostly dead
    mostly dead means a little bit alive
    compleatly dead means digging through Romneys pockets
    and looking for lose change

    On WZ obama was over 270 and then it went to 243 …something is up.
    Pray!


  27. Lily
    27 | November 7, 2012 12:04 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Yeah the numbers are changing too….

    According to Google, which I trust more than the OSM, has Mitt up by 20k now in OH

    I know the numbers are changing and not in obama’s favor.


  28. Bordm
    28 | November 7, 2012 12:04 am

    The count don’t really count until it’s 100%. Pray and pray again.


  29. livefreeor die
    29 | November 7, 2012 12:05 am

    The ironic thing is that the people I know who will be most negatively affected by the SCOAMF for the next four years are the same ones who voted for him.
    Sucks to be them. I’m tired of being quiet to avoid disagreements with these morons. Every time they bitch now about the cost of things, I’m going to point out that it’s Bammy’s policies.


  30. 30 | November 7, 2012 12:05 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    It’s not over. OH is just 1k vote difference. VA is 8k and Chair hasn’t yet come out to give his TOTUS a workout.

    Romney is ahead in Ohio…

    D Winner B. Obama (i) 48.9% 2,278,659
    R M. Romney 49.4% 2,299,462

    Romney up by 20,000


  31. Lily
    31 | November 7, 2012 12:05 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I’m back.
    Had a good cry. However, I want to see every vote counted before I believe it. Even Fox has drunk the KoolAid tonight.
    I’m done with Christie. Done.
    I’m tired of evil dominating our country. (Random thoughts. Not calling Christie evil. The SCOAMF and crew.)

    PRAY! The numbers are changing and not in obama’s favor….


  32. Runner
    32 | November 7, 2012 12:05 am

    Krauthammer was being cautiously optimistic about what could come after Obama’s next four years. He was talking about all of the youngbloods waiting in the wings of the Republican party. I just hope we can survive that long for something to right this ship of fools (present company excluded).


  33. Lily
    33 | November 7, 2012 12:06 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    The ironic thing is that the people I know who will be most negatively affected by the SCOAMF for the next four years are the same ones who voted for him.
    Sucks to be them. I’m tired of being quiet to avoid disagreements with these morons. Every time they bitch now about the cost of things, I’m going to point out that it’s Bammy’s policies.

    I stopped being quiet a while ago…keep the faith something is up the numbers are changing.


  34. song_and_dance_man
    34 | November 7, 2012 12:07 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Leaves CO, VA and FL.
    And they’re arguing about Ohio on FNC

    Include OH and exclude CO and that is where there will be a count that is close.


  35. Mars
    35 | November 7, 2012 12:07 am

    The thing that has always confused me about our elections is this: The absentee ballots (especially from the military) have not come in yet. But, they always call the elections right away. And you never hear how the military ballots went. It’s like they just vanish.


  36. Lily
    36 | November 7, 2012 12:07 am

    @ Runner:

    Has Romney conceded? No…wait the numbers are changing.


  37. livefreeor die
    37 | November 7, 2012 12:08 am

    @ Lily:
    Thanks, Lily, and everyone else. This is where I wanted to be tonight.
    I wasn’t just crying for the country. I’m pretty bummed about NoThreat2U.


  38. darkwords
    38 | November 7, 2012 12:08 am

    @ 30 doriangrey: By the media it looks dim. But I still prefer to wait. This close then???? let’s look at it in the morning.


  39. Lily
    39 | November 7, 2012 12:08 am

    Bordm wrote:

    The count don’t really count until it’s 100%. Pray and pray again.

    Yes PRAY, PRAY, PRAY….the numbers are changing…


  40. darkwords
    40 | November 7, 2012 12:08 am

    It would be interesting to have 3 recounts and have the election slide into Romney’s favor.


  41. Runner
    41 | November 7, 2012 12:09 am

    @ Lily:

    I haven’t given up just yet. I still have some beer left!


  42. livefreeor die
    42 | November 7, 2012 12:09 am

    Lily wrote:

    livefreeor die wrote:

    The ironic thing is that the people I know who will be most negatively affected by the SCOAMF for the next four years are the same ones who voted for him.
    Sucks to be them. I’m tired of being quiet to avoid disagreements with these morons. Every time they bitch now about the cost of things, I’m going to point out that it’s Bammy’s policies.

    I stopped being quiet a while ago…keep the faith something is up the numbers are changing.

    Yes, I’ve been getting my Irish up more after getting inspired by everyone here. Heck, we put up Romney/Ryan signs this year!


  43. lobo91
    43 | November 7, 2012 12:11 am

    Right now, our local news shows Obama up 51-47, with 50% reporting statewide in CO.


  44. Lily
    44 | November 7, 2012 12:11 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Thanks, Lily, and everyone else. This is where I wanted to be tonight.
    I wasn’t just crying for the country. I’m pretty bummed about NoThreat2U.

    I have cried a lot today. Keep the faith …Romney has not conceded..and the numbers are changing. PRAY {livefreeordie} PRAY!


  45. Runner
    45 | November 7, 2012 12:12 am

    I would love to see the crestfallen faces of the celebrating Obama supporters learn that Ohio has now been called in favor of Romney. Hell, I don’t even know that it would matter and I’m not concluding it will happen. Just getting a little joy from the thought of the misfortune of others. The Germans have a word for that…


  46. livefreeor die
    46 | November 7, 2012 12:13 am

    @ Lily:
    Will continue to do so (praying I mean-enough tears over the election.)


  47. darkwords
    47 | November 7, 2012 12:13 am

    maybe Howard Dean is right and fraud will determine the election.


  48. lobo91
    48 | November 7, 2012 12:13 am

    And apparently we approved recreational marijuana use in Colorado.


  49. livefreeor die
    49 | November 7, 2012 12:14 am

    @ darkwords:
    I’m sorry but there had to be major fraud in the Philly burbs. Romney supporters were on a roll here.


  50. huckfunn
    50 | November 7, 2012 12:14 am

    I’ve been a Republican all my life, but the Republicans are obviously not the answer. Too much reaching across the isle. I’m done with them. Where do we go from here?

    I’m done for the night.

    zzzzzzzzzzzz


  51. song_and_dance_man
    51 | November 7, 2012 12:14 am

    Runner wrote:

    I would love for a Hail Mary to get me out of my funk.

    Do you recall the 00 election night in 99? This one is reminiscent of that crazy night. Gore was declared the winner and then WHAM, it turned out Bush won.

    What is eerily similar is that Gore never came out to greet the crowd because he knew it was not in the bag, and just like then, Chair is reluctant to show up in the same manner.

    This turn of events—that Chair has not come out to declare that he is the Fa Shizzle— smacks of good tidings. Be ready for a fight in the jurist trenches if this thing goes suit-wise with questions of counting in those places where it is aladam close.


  52. rain of lead
    52 | November 7, 2012 12:15 am

    @ lobo91:

    google says a diff of 59,000 votes


  53. Calo
    53 | November 7, 2012 12:15 am

    @ livefreeor die:
    I just can’t speak about NT2U tonight.

    I’ll start shedding tears again if I do.


  54. Lily
    54 | November 7, 2012 12:15 am

    @ livefreeor die:

    It’s been a hard day with Tina and all…but if Romney isn’t conceding …..things could change…


  55. Lily
    55 | November 7, 2012 12:16 am

    @ Calo:

    {{{{Calo}}}}! I know. :(


  56. lobo91
    56 | November 7, 2012 12:16 am

    I see CO is blue on the FNC map now.

    Lovely


  57. livefreeor die
    57 | November 7, 2012 12:17 am

    @ Lily:
    I’m glad he’s not conceding. McCain folded like tissue four years ago.

    Remember when Kerry sent Edwards out in 2004 to say they weren’t conceding and Edwards stood there all by himself on the stage making stupid thumbs ups signs everywhere? Now THAT was fun…


  58. Lily
    58 | November 7, 2012 12:17 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Runner wrote:

    I would love for a Hail Mary to get me out of my funk.

    Do you recall the 00 election night in 99? This one is reminiscent of that crazy night. Gore was declared the winner and then WHAM, it turned out Bush won.

    What is eerily similar is that Gore never came out to greet the crowd because he knew it was not in the bag, and just like then, Chair is reluctant to show up in the same manner.

    This turn of events—that Chair has not come out to declare that he is the Fa Shizzle— smacks of good tidings. Be ready for a fight in the jurist trenches if this thing goes suit-wise with questions of counting in those places where it is aladam close.

    Yes and Romney is not throwing in the towel and conceding….says something.


  59. song_and_dance_man
    59 | November 7, 2012 12:18 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Romney up by 20,000

    And now down by 22k

    I will not relent until the final tally is in.


  60. 60 | November 7, 2012 12:18 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    Remember when Kerry sent Edwards out in 2004 to say they weren’t conceding and Edwards stood there all by himself on the stage making stupid thumbs ups signs everywhere? Now THAT was fun…

    Good times.


  61. livefreeor die
    61 | November 7, 2012 12:18 am

    @ Lily:
    Mitt,
    Don’t give in until the provisionals and recounts due to voting irregularities are done! This is the future of the country we’re talking about!!!


  62. Lily
    62 | November 7, 2012 12:19 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    I’m sorry but there had to be major fraud in the Philly burbs. Romney supporters were on a roll here.

    Indeed. Too many people have thrown in the towel …yet Romney hasn’t!!!!


  63. livefreeor die
    63 | November 7, 2012 12:19 am

    @ MacDuff:
    The hubby and I laughed our kiesters off that night. Man, he looked lame.


  64. Runner
    64 | November 7, 2012 12:20 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    And apparently we approved recreational marijuana use in Colorado.

    It looks like the voters here in Maine approved gay marriage just a couple of years after they defeated it. A couple of years ago the Governor signed gay marriage into law and opponents got enough signatures to have it on a statewide ballot and it was overturned, defeated, whatever. This year, proponents got it back on the ballot to approve it and the schizophrenic electorate in Maine approved it.

    They also voted into office former Governor Angus King to replace outgoing Senator Olympia Snowe. King is a so-called “independent” but he’s really a crazy liberal, so while Snowe is slightly more conservative and sometimes votes with the Republicans, I would have to call this a loss since I can’t see King siding with Republicans on anything.

    I just wish I had a full bottle of Maker’s Mark right now…


  65. Lily
    65 | November 7, 2012 12:20 am

    @ Calo:

    Light your candle…we need a miracle!


  66. Runner
    66 | November 7, 2012 12:21 am

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    I hope you’re right. At least there’s a glimmer of hope. Maybe? Sort of?


  67. rain of lead
    67 | November 7, 2012 12:21 am

    @ Lily:

    I do think Romney is going to wait till ALL the votes get counted

    still
    should not be this close


  68. livefreeor die
    68 | November 7, 2012 12:21 am

    @ Runner:
    Hey, no booze. We must be one with Mitt right now.


  69. lobo91
    69 | November 7, 2012 12:21 am

    @ Runner:

    I would have to call this a loss since I can’t see King siding with Republicans on anything.

    Yes, that’s a loss


  70. song_and_dance_man
    70 | November 7, 2012 12:22 am

    Puhlease, Brian Williams questioning if this so-called win is a mandate.

    I laugh in derision


  71. 71 | November 7, 2012 12:22 am

    I’m sick of all these damned people talking about the woman vote, the Latino vote, the white vote, the black vote, etc., etc. These damned Democrats have purposely created fractures in our country and now, they’re actually celebrating it?!

    We need a return to the UNITED States.


  72. lobo91
    72 | November 7, 2012 12:22 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I do think Romney is going to wait till ALL the votes get counted

    still
    should not be this close

    There’s a good chance that he’ll win the popular vote and still lose.


  73. livefreeor die
    73 | November 7, 2012 12:23 am

    @ lobo91:
    But at least we have someone who clearly won’t side with us rather than someone we’re always loading up with pork to coax them into siding with us. If Maine wants to elect morons, at least we don’t have to reward them anymore with stuff for doing so.
    Hey, Maine, let us know how big those potholes get after a couple of years of poor repairs.


  74. rain of lead
    74 | November 7, 2012 12:23 am

    @ Calo:
    @ Lily:

    we as a blog need to do something for her service
    maybe CW can get the details of her service when the family
    gets them made


  75. lobo91
    75 | November 7, 2012 12:23 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Puhlease, Brian Williams questioning if this so-called win is a mandate.

    I laugh in derision

    Umm…considering that he got more electoral votes the first time, I’d say no…


  76. Lily
    76 | November 7, 2012 12:23 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I do think Romney is going to wait till ALL the votes get counted

    still
    should not be this close

    I know!!!! I pray God doesn’t turn His back on us because so many democrats regetted Him…


  77. Lily
    77 | November 7, 2012 12:24 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Yes indeed.


  78. Runner
    78 | November 7, 2012 12:24 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    @ Runner:
    Hey, no booze. We must be one with Mitt right now.

    Well, I have two cans of Porkslap Pale Ale left and will consume them shortly!


  79. livefreeor die
    79 | November 7, 2012 12:24 am

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Yes, it’s a mandate to small business not to hire people full time, not to expand, not to invest, and probably not to operate in this country in many cases.


  80. rain of lead
    80 | November 7, 2012 12:24 am

    @ MacDuff:

    yeah
    no
    I think that ship has sailed


  81. lobo91
    81 | November 7, 2012 12:25 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    I’m sick of all these damned people talking about the woman vote, the Latino vote, the white vote, the black vote, etc., etc. These damned Democrats have purposely created fractures in our country and now, they’re actually celebrating it?!

    We need a return to the UNITED States.

    That’s been the Democrat strategy going back to LBJ. They’ve finally got it perfected, apparently.


  82. Lily
    82 | November 7, 2012 12:25 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    I’m sick of all these damned people talking about the woman vote, the Latino vote, the white vote, the black vote, etc., etc. These damned Democrats have purposely created fractures in our country and now, they’re actually celebrating it?!

    We need a return to the UNITED States.

    AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


  83. Moe Katz
    83 | November 7, 2012 12:26 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    And apparently we approved recreational marijuana use in Colorado.

    Rocky Mountain HIGH!


  84. Runner
    84 | November 7, 2012 12:27 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But at least we have someone who clearly won’t side with us rather than someone we’re always loading up with pork to coax them into siding with us. If Maine wants to elect morons, at least we don’t have to reward them anymore with stuff for doing so.
    Hey, Maine, let us know how big those potholes get after a couple of years of poor repairs.

    Hell, I could lose my car in some of the potholes right in my neighborhood here in Maine.

    On today’s ballot we also had about 5 or 6 bond questions. Maine voters never turn down the chance to borrow money so I’m sure they will pass. One of them was to borrow money for the state to purchase land that was for sale to add to the state parks system or something. The funny thing is, they borrow money that we citizens will have to pay back but yet charge us for visiting the parks. So we get to pay twice!


  85. lobo91
    85 | November 7, 2012 12:27 am

    FNC’s showing the Senate as 50 (+2)-44 with 4 seats left to decide.


  86. Runner
    86 | November 7, 2012 12:28 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    Ha! I wish I had thought of that retort!


  87. lobo91
    87 | November 7, 2012 12:29 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    And apparently we approved recreational marijuana use in Colorado.

    Rocky Mountain HIGH!

    They probably should have approved heroin use…


  88. lobo91
    88 | November 7, 2012 12:30 am

    We’re probably going to end up 53 +2-45 in the Senate.

    We’ve actually lost seats.


  89. momcat
    89 | November 7, 2012 12:31 am

    @ Lily:
    I know how you feel.She so wanted Not to see chair get this.I am praying still.


  90. Runner
    90 | November 7, 2012 12:32 am

    Hmm. I just typed a lengthy comment about the bond issues on the ballot here in Maine but after “submit comment” it just disappeared. Unless it is there between the last refresh and me typing this now. Curious…


  91. Lily
    91 | November 7, 2012 12:32 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    We’re probably going to end up 53 +2-45 in the Senate.

    We’ve actually lost seats.

    This is insanity.


  92. waldensianspirit
    92 | November 7, 2012 12:32 am

    There was something about Mark Levin’s voice on the radio that made me pause about a win tonight


  93. 93 | November 7, 2012 12:33 am

    Later, peeps, I’m done.

    Perhaps I’ll leave a note for the Mormon Election Faery under my pillow and he’ll leave me good news for the morning. More importantly, I’ll pray. I must say though, I’m not optimistic.

    G’night all.


  94. Lily
    94 | November 7, 2012 12:33 am

    momcat wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I know how you feel.She so wanted Not to see chair get this.I am praying still.

    Yes she so much wanted to see obama fired.


  95. song_and_dance_man
    95 | November 7, 2012 12:33 am

    OH is tightening. 11k Chair. it’s been up and down with 10% to go.

    WI is far off with 70K Chair

    FL is 8k Chair

    Doesn’t look good for Mitt but there are still votes out there even though most of the counties have reported.

    OH is now within 10


  96. rain of lead
    96 | November 7, 2012 12:34 am

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA


  97. Emperor
    97 | November 7, 2012 12:34 am

    Allen West (R) 49.8%
    Murphy (D) 50.2%

    97.4% in

    No words


  98. lobo91
    98 | November 7, 2012 12:36 am

    Emperor wrote:

    Allen West (R) 49.8%
    Murphy (D) 50.2%

    97.4% in

    No words

    Oh, crap

    And they put Alan Grayson back in the House, too.


  99. rain of lead
    99 | November 7, 2012 12:36 am

    wait
    was that to grim
    geez
    sorry
    my bad


  100. Lily
    100 | November 7, 2012 12:36 am

    Emperor wrote:

    Allen West (R) 49.8%
    Murphy (D) 50.2%

    97.4% in

    No words

    Oh my God! Honestly there are no words. What in the hell happened tonight?


  101. Runner
    101 | November 7, 2012 12:36 am

    The majority of the electorate has become like the Eloi of Wells’ Time Machine story. They’re content to have someone else (Government) feed and clothe them. They have no compassion for their fellow Eloi and in fact don’t even know what compassion means. Every now and then they have to sacrifice one of their own to satisfy the Morlocks (Government in general, Democrats in particular). The Eloi are merely useful tools to the Morlocks and both cannot get along without the other.

    Okay, now I’ve officially lost my mind or had too much pale ale.


  102. livefreeor die
    102 | November 7, 2012 12:37 am

    @ Runner:
    I’m completely sober and you make a lot of sense.


  103. Calo
    103 | November 7, 2012 12:38 am

    @ Emperor:
    America is fundamentally changed.

    I weep for our children.


  104. livefreeor die
    104 | November 7, 2012 12:39 am

    @ Calo:
    So sadly true.


  105. 105 | November 7, 2012 12:39 am

    Runner wrote:

    The majority of the electorate has become like the Eloi of Wells’ Time Machine story. They’re content to have someone else (Government) feed and clothe them. They have no compassion for their fellow Eloi and in fact don’t even know what compassion means. Every now and then they have to sacrifice one of their own to satisfy the Morlocks (Government in general, Democrats in particular). The Eloi are merely useful tools to the Morlocks and both cannot get along without the other.

    Okay, now I’ve officially lost my mind or had too much pale ale.

    I LIKE your theory! I may

    G’night….


  106. Lily
    106 | November 7, 2012 12:39 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ Emperor:
    America is fundamentally changed.

    I weep for our children.

    I do too. I don’t blame Romney he gave it all he had. I blame the American people who have lost their ever loving minds.


  107. gulfloafer
    107 | November 7, 2012 12:39 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Emperor wrote:
    Allen West (R) 49.8%
    Murphy (D) 50.2%
    97.4% in
    No words
    Oh, crap
    And they put Alan Grayson back in the House, too.

    See Rain of Lead’s #95


  108. livefreeor die
    108 | November 7, 2012 12:40 am

    Night all.
    Must put on a happy face for the kids tomorrow.


  109. lobo91
    109 | November 7, 2012 12:40 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ Emperor:
    America is fundamentally changed.

    I weep for our children.

    Well, that was what Obama promised.


  110. song_and_dance_man
    110 | November 7, 2012 12:40 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    Yes, it’s a mandate to small business not to hire people full time, not to expand, not to invest, and probably not to operate in this country in many cases.

    By fiat another business goes abroad. Jeep jeep.

    Soon others will follow. Wal Mart, Apple…oh, wait..


  111. lobo91
    111 | November 7, 2012 12:43 am

    I’m getting really sick of the split screen shot showing people dancing at Obama headquarters.


  112. rain of lead
    112 | November 7, 2012 12:43 am

    well
    here we are
    as we know a president’s 2nd term is NEVER as good as his first
    there are no more goodies to hand out and barkys chickens will
    come home to roost
    he wanted a 2nd term well he gets it
    we are in for a rough ride


  113. Emperor
    113 | November 7, 2012 12:44 am

    As I posted in the last thread.. . http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/641/hindenburg.jpg


  114. waldensianspirit
    114 | November 7, 2012 12:45 am

    Romney to speak in 10 minutes


  115. rain of lead
    115 | November 7, 2012 12:45 am

    @ lobo91:

    then change the channel
    I switched fox off about 2 hours ago
    mo better


  116. lobo91
    116 | November 7, 2012 12:45 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Since he’s already cemented his place as the worst president ever, where can he go from here?


  117. Lily
    117 | November 7, 2012 12:45 am

    Romney is not conceding…

    Obama Projected as Winner, Romney Campaign Not Yet Ready to Concede


  118. song_and_dance_man
    118 | November 7, 2012 12:45 am

    Runner wrote:

    Okay, now I’ve officially lost my mind or had too much pale ale.

    Not so. You mentioned Morlocks who became a fav term to use at 1.0 just as you described them in allegory.


  119. 119 | November 7, 2012 12:46 am

    Emperor wrote:

    Allen West (R) 49.8%
    Murphy (D) 50.2%
    97.4% in
    No words

    What?

    Damn.


  120. Lily
    120 | November 7, 2012 12:47 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Emperor wrote:

    Allen West (R) 49.8%
    Murphy (D) 50.2%
    97.4% in
    No words

    What?

    Damn.

    Can you believe that??????????????


  121. gibsonz
    121 | November 7, 2012 12:48 am

    And we thought common sense would prevail…we couldn`t lose if only the people would see the light of day!…If only??? Guess what, we lost, and we lost much more than an election…we lost our last chance at the ballot box…those days are gone…FOREVER!!!


  122. Lily
    122 | November 7, 2012 12:48 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ rain of lead:

    Since he’s already cemented his place as the worst president ever, where can he go from here?

    Good heavens I don’t want to know. But all I know it is going to be bad.


  123. rain of lead
    123 | November 7, 2012 12:49 am

    @ lobo91:

    events in the world will overtake his presidency
    he will not be able to respond
    hillarity ensues


  124. waldensianspirit
    124 | November 7, 2012 12:49 am

    @ Rodan:
    @ Lily:
    The GOP elite got rid of West


  125. Runner
    125 | November 7, 2012 12:50 am

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    I don’t recall Morlocks being referenced at 1.0. And here I thought I was being original and all. Damn. It seems that Keith Richards was right when he said “everything’s been done before,” or something like that.


  126. rain of lead
    126 | November 7, 2012 12:51 am

    a talking head just said
    we are spending 400 billion dollare a day
    how do we fix that?

    ummmm
    stop spending it


  127. Lily
    127 | November 7, 2012 12:51 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    events in the world will overtake his presidency
    he will not be able to respond
    hillarity ensues

    Yep I fear that something bad is on the horizon…


  128. darkwords
    128 | November 7, 2012 12:51 am

    We should all have a drink to NT2U tonight and next year.


  129. song_and_dance_man
    129 | November 7, 2012 12:51 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Romney to speak in 10 minutes

    this is end


  130. Lily
    130 | November 7, 2012 12:51 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ Lily:
    The GOP elite got rid of West

    He was a shining star.


  131. lobo91
    131 | November 7, 2012 12:51 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    events in the world will overtake his presidency
    he will not be able to respond
    hillarity ensues

    Oddly enough, I’m not laughing.


  132. Emperor
    132 | November 7, 2012 12:52 am

    It’s not just losing. It’s the media too.

    Fast and Furious. Bengazhi.

    If Obama had an (R) after his name, not only would he lose re lection in a landslide, multiple members of his administration would be preparing to move in some cozy new digs in a jail cell.


  133. Lily
    133 | November 7, 2012 12:52 am

    @ darkwords:

    Toast!


  134. rain of lead
    134 | November 7, 2012 12:52 am

    fuck fuck fuck
    romney just conceded
    game over


  135. darkwords
    135 | November 7, 2012 12:52 am

    @ 115 lobo91: Obama supporters are essentially people who want to destroy the country to make themselves feel temporarily better.


  136. lobo91
    136 | November 7, 2012 12:52 am

    Romney’s called Obama to concede.


  137. waldensianspirit
    137 | November 7, 2012 12:53 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    a talking head just said
    we are spending 400 billion dollare a day
    how do we fix that?
    ummmm
    stop spending it

    Their press has already said they will raise taxes on the ‘rich’


  138. Emperor
    138 | November 7, 2012 12:53 am

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I hope he doesn’t quit politics.


  139. waldensianspirit
    139 | November 7, 2012 12:53 am

    Romney conceding


  140. lobo91
    140 | November 7, 2012 12:54 am

    @ Emperor:

    If Obama had an R after his name (or was white) he never would have made it through the primaries.

    He would’ve been laughed off the stage.


  141. gibsonz
    141 | November 7, 2012 12:54 am

    @ rain of lead:
    @ rain of lead:
    Game Over…


  142. Lily
    142 | November 7, 2012 12:54 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Romney to speak in 10 minutes

    this is end

    I have no words. He gave it his all. The American people have lost their minds.


  143. lobo91
    143 | November 7, 2012 12:55 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Their press has already said they will raise taxes on the ‘rich’

    Meaning “anyone who still has a job”


  144. Lily
    144 | November 7, 2012 12:55 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Romney conceding

    And so it is.


  145. gibsonz
    145 | November 7, 2012 12:56 am

    @ Lily:
    The American people have lost more than their minds, they have lost their identity!


  146. song_and_dance_man
    146 | November 7, 2012 12:56 am

    @ Runner:

    It was an old term that had mention in the Dictionary.


  147. Lily
    147 | November 7, 2012 12:56 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    fuck fuck fuck
    romney just conceded
    game over

    He would have made a great president. I am sick to my stomach.


  148. darkwords
    148 | November 7, 2012 12:56 am

    Bring donuts to your work tomorrow.


  149. 149 | November 7, 2012 12:57 am

    Spme good thoughts at NRO:

    The People’s Choice

    “Mitt Romney: Not one of us.” That was the slogan of an Obama ad. And, yes, Mitt Romney is not one of us. Who’s “us”? Whoever we are, or they are, Romney isn’t one of them. And I’m not either. Fine with me, in a way. I don’t think much of Obama’s “us.”

    I’m very sorry that Obama has won again, because I think he’s a bad president, and I’ve also come to think very little of him as a man. But even more, probably, I’m sorry that Mitt Romney won’t be president. I think he would have been an excellent one. I think he would have shored up the country, reestablished us — but the people have spoken.

    And have no doubt: They saw the way Obama governed for four years, and they wanted it again. In 2008, Obama was all gauzy and intangible — “hope and change,” etc. Now they have seen. The debt is more than $16 trillion. The budget deficit is more than $1 trillion. Entitlements chug along, as though they were not headed toward a cliff. Obamacare is set. Unemployment is 7.9 percent.

    Four more years!

    That is the people’s verdict: four more years. So, what is left for the likes of us to do? (And by “us,” I mean those excluded from Barack Obama’s “us.”)

    Well, we can try to persuade. Keep making our case. Alternatively, the pain of economic decline might wake people up. Or not. Gerald Ford liked to say, “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” I think the American people — the new American people — are saying, “Yeah, so?”

    I thought a lot was possible under Romney — tax reform, reform of entitlements, spending control, immigration reform, a coming to grips with Iran. I think very little of a positive nature is possible under Obama. We could be in for a markedly difficult time. But remember: In a democracy, the people choose.

    Outside my window now, they’re whooping it up, just like four years ago. This is the sound of the American people. The modern “yawp.” Obama promised that he would “fundamentally transform” the country. And lo . . .

    I will say once more: We chose it. Or somebody did — the “us” that Mitt Romney is not one of, and that I’m not one of either (glad to say). How about you? Feeling all ussy?

    Forward!

    P.S. On the bright side, maybe the Democrats will feel better about the Electoral College . . .

    Gawd this sucks…..


  150. lobo91
    150 | November 7, 2012 12:57 am

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBFhdeR9PE


  151. Emperor
    151 | November 7, 2012 12:58 am

    @ Lily:
    He fought hard and, unlike 4 years ago, no punches were pulled.

    He earned a lot of peoples’ respect.. mine included.


  152. Lily
    152 | November 7, 2012 12:58 am

    gibsonz wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The American people have lost more than their minds, they have lost their identity!

    I live in the very red south…but America voted in a president that watched Americans getting murdered and did nothing. What does that say?


  153. Lily
    153 | November 7, 2012 12:59 am

    @ Emperor:

    Mine too.


  154. 154 | November 7, 2012 12:59 am

    *puke*


  155. song_and_dance_man
    155 | November 7, 2012 1:00 am

    We can all find solace in what one said in a story that I will not now look for. Chair winning is a loss, for us and for him. For him more because Benghazi still hovers large over his head.


  156. lobo91
    156 | November 7, 2012 1:00 am

    @ Lily:

    I live in the very red south…but America voted in a president that watched Americans getting murdered and did nothing. What does that say?

    See #149


  157. momcat
    157 | November 7, 2012 1:01 am

    I am at a loss. need something for four years of depresson.


  158. rain of lead
    158 | November 7, 2012 1:02 am

    screw work
    tomorrow
    I’m going gun shopping
    any ideas
    I have some pistols and a rifle


  159. lobo91
    159 | November 7, 2012 1:02 am

    Well, at least Ryan kept his House seat, since Wisconsin allows people to run for more than one office.


  160. song_and_dance_man
    160 | November 7, 2012 1:03 am

    Lily wrote:

    I have no words. He gave it his all. The American people have lost their minds.

    Less than half have; the other percentage that would have made a difference have little to no idea what their apathy has wrought.


  161. lobo91
    161 | November 7, 2012 1:03 am

    @ rain of lead:

    What do you have in mind?


  162. darkwords
    162 | November 7, 2012 1:03 am

    benghazi
    solyndra
    fast and furious

    the pro choicers chose to look the other way.


  163. waldensianspirit
    163 | November 7, 2012 1:04 am

    Here comes a bunch of Mussolini poses


  164. Lily
    164 | November 7, 2012 1:04 am

    @ momcat:

    So am I…very little people turned up at his rallies, Romney had massive amounts of people and obama still won..what a fall from grace.
    We are going to be less protected, and I don’t even want to know what else is down the road for us as a country.


  165. rain of lead
    165 | November 7, 2012 1:05 am

    @ lobo91:

    how about a shotgun to start


  166. Moe Katz
    166 | November 7, 2012 1:06 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    And apparently we approved recreational marijuana use in Colorado.
    Rocky Mountain HIGH!

    They probably should have approved heroin use…

    LSD. Come to Trail and see trails….


  167. lobo91
    167 | November 7, 2012 1:06 am

    Shit…they just gave Obama Virginia.

    And Florida is waiting until tomorrow to finish counting.


  168. Lily
    168 | November 7, 2012 1:06 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    I have no words. He gave it his all. The American people have lost their minds.

    Less than half have; the other percentage that would have made a difference have little to no idea what their apathy has wrought.

    Indeed they have no idea what is ahead of us …obama has told us revenge. He will bring it. I am disgusted.


  169. song_and_dance_man
    169 | November 7, 2012 1:07 am

    enough of this Arab Spring. Iran must go. Let’s see what Chair will do with that.


  170. Runner
    170 | November 7, 2012 1:07 am

    I don’t even know if I can sleep tonight. And I have to work with pricks who love Obama and will be walking around on cloud 9 all day tomorrow. My only solace is that they are salary workers and I am hourly. This week has been a killer with those guys working from 9 until 11 at night with no extra compensation. They are beat and punchy and it shows. I have been asked to stay late on Thursday and I will take quiet comfort in billing them for every fart, sniffle, sneeze, and restroom visit.

    Juvenile? Yes. But it’s all I have left in me. At least this week. Next week? We live to fight another day!!


  171. Emperor
    171 | November 7, 2012 1:07 am

    So, four more years –

    Four more years of not bad leadership but NO leadership.
    Four more years… more than enough time for Iran to get the bomb.
    Four more years and a firm liberal majority on the Supreme Court.
    Four more years hurtling towards the fiscal cliff…

    But hey-
    Thousands get to keep their free cell phones courtesy of the government.


  172. lobo91
    172 | November 7, 2012 1:07 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    how about a shotgun to start

    For home defense, or hunting?


  173. rain of lead
    173 | November 7, 2012 1:08 am

    hunker down people
    2% growth is gonna be paradise in 2-3 months


  174. rain of lead
    174 | November 7, 2012 1:08 am

    @ lobo91:

    home defense


  175. Lily
    175 | November 7, 2012 1:08 am

    @ lobo91:

    Pretty much lobo. Pretty much.


  176. lobo91
    176 | November 7, 2012 1:09 am

    @ Emperor:

    Hey…we still have a few embassies that haven’t been attacked (yet)!
    //


  177. 177 | November 7, 2012 1:09 am

    I was optimistic after the debates that momentum had indeed swung to Romney. I was worried about fraud though, and the malfeasance of the media in ignoring important stories like Benghazi and Fast and Furious and promoting utter bullcrap like “War on Women” and “Ryan will destroy Medicare.”

    Of course, the American public is about to find out, in the saddest way possible, that everything they thought was true is not. The Bush tax cuts? Gone. For the middle class as well. You re-elected Obama, do you think he gives a DAMN about how much tax you pay? He has his permanent underclass to pay for.

    And health care? Sure you can have coverage. Coverage does not equal care. And good luck all you Medicare patients who believed his bullshit. Good luck finding a doctor. Good luck getting treatment. You are expendable now. Die quickly. Because you’re a burden on Obama’s system.

    Think the umemployment rate will do down? Oh hell no. Hope your employer still gives you health care, because good luck affording it if he doesn’t. And remember – you HAVE to buy it. You don’t have a choice.


  178. darkwords
    178 | November 7, 2012 1:10 am

    conceding tonight is good for the democrats.
    Conceding tomorrow is good for the GoP.

    But the GoP still hasn’t learned.


  179. Lily
    179 | November 7, 2012 1:11 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    hunker down people
    2% growth is gonna be paradise in 2-3 months

    We have already done that. Like Calo said I weep for my children. The apathy that 1/2 of Americans have shown and their buying into to the hate …the damage that will be done.. for anyone who voted for obama I have NO PITY.


  180. lobo91
    180 | November 7, 2012 1:12 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    home defense

    Your two basic choices are the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500 series. Many people like each.

    Functionally, the most obvious difference is the placement of the safety. Remington uses a cross-bolt push button; Mossberg uses a slide on top of the receiver.

    Personally, I own a Mossberg 590, which has a 20″ barrel and holds 8 rounds (+ 1 in the chamber).


  181. 181 | November 7, 2012 1:12 am

    @ Runner:

    Runner – I tool the whole week off. I didn’t want to be in the office if Obama won.


  182. gulfloafer
    182 | November 7, 2012 1:13 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    screw work
    tomorrow
    I’m going gun shopping
    any ideas
    I have some pistols and a rifle

    http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=441


  183. Calo
    183 | November 7, 2012 1:13 am

    Bunk X wrote:

    *puke*

    Where is my tequila tonight?

    I think I need to dig it out of the liquor cabinet, open my mouth and relax my throat.


  184. Lily
    184 | November 7, 2012 1:13 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And that includes my son who has a rare disease. Oh my God!


  185. 185 | November 7, 2012 1:13 am

    @ lobo91:

    Funny you should say that. I have the Remington in a 20 gauge and the Mossberg in a 12 gauge.


  186. Lily
    186 | November 7, 2012 1:14 am

    @ Lily:

    And HE VOTED FOR ROMNEY TODAY!!!!


  187. lobo91
    187 | November 7, 2012 1:14 am

    Lily wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And that includes my son who has a rare disease. Oh my God!

    I have a nice letter from the VA saying I’m entitled to care.

    Unfortunately, that’s all I have.


  188. Emperor
    188 | November 7, 2012 1:15 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Obama’s record is ridiculously bad. There are no substantive successes but many failures. His signature legislative “accomplishments” are nearly universally unpopular. The fact that he latched onto the purely symbolic victory of killing Bin Laden as the only one success of his term underlines how totally vapid it was.

    The real perpetrators of this are the totally irresponsible media who ignored the real scandals that occurred during the past four years.


  189. Runner
    189 | November 7, 2012 1:16 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Runner:

    Runner — I tool the whole week off. I didn’t want to be in the office if Obama won.

    I would love to take the week off. Thank goodness I have Spotify on my phone and a decent set of earbuds so I block my co-workers out. Otherwise I would probably have a stroke trying to keep my rage inside and not explode at the asinine comments I have to endure each day from these crazies.


  190. lobo91
    190 | November 7, 2012 1:17 am

    @ Runner:

    I’ve been off since I got off the plane from Kuwait on August 14th.


  191. rain of lead
    191 | November 7, 2012 1:17 am

    Calo wrote:

    Bunk X wrote:

    *puke*

    Where is my tequila tonight?

    I think I need to dig it out of the liquor cabinet, open my mouth and relax my throat.

    *must*not*say*anything*


  192. Lily
    192 | November 7, 2012 1:18 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And that includes my son who has a rare disease. Oh my God!

    I have a nice letter from the VA saying I’m entitled to care.

    Unfortunately, that’s all I have.

    So sorry {lobo}! Tonight I cry. Darkness has settled on our country.


  193. 193 | November 7, 2012 1:21 am

    @ Lily:

    Lily, I will pray God to guide our scientists to help your son.

    I will look to 2014. I think Obama will morph into a real tyrant now that he has nothing to lose. He has exhibited small tyrannies up to now; however a re-election, no matter how close, will embolden this narcissic menace.

    And as for the House – do not let Benghazi go. This was a criminally negligent affair and Obama must be held accountable.


  194. Moe Katz
    194 | November 7, 2012 1:21 am

    Well, my condolences to all from Canada. Romney would have been better for Canada also—the fiscal cliff affects us all.

    I’m off to ride my stationary bike for half an hour and then to bed.


  195. darkwords
    195 | November 7, 2012 1:22 am

    apply a mirror to Obama


  196. 196 | November 7, 2012 1:23 am

    What are the popular vote totals right now?


  197. lobo91
    197 | November 7, 2012 1:23 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And as for the House — do not let Benghazi go. This was a criminally negligent affair and Obama must be held accountable.

    My prediction is that you’ll never hear about it again after today, other than on Fox News.


  198. song_and_dance_man
    198 | November 7, 2012 1:24 am

    I hope the Mayans had it right and this all ends in Dec.


  199. Emperor
    199 | November 7, 2012 1:25 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    49.5% O
    49.0% R


  200. lobo91
    200 | November 7, 2012 1:25 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    What are the popular vote totals right now?

    Obama: 52,355,414
    Romney: 51,898,636


  201. song_and_dance_man
    201 | November 7, 2012 1:25 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    What are the popular vote totals right now?

    49.5 49.1 Chair


  202. lobo91
    202 | November 7, 2012 1:26 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I hope the Mayans had it right and this all ends in Dec.

    Sadly, that’s actually starting to look good…


  203. rain of lead
    203 | November 7, 2012 1:27 am

    the house “should” go scorched earth on his ass
    total gridlock not a single bill out
    their approval rating is sucking gravel
    own it


  204. Bob-Crotchit
    204 | November 7, 2012 1:28 am

    Calo wrote:

    I think I need to dig it out of the liquor cabinet, open my mouth and relax my throat.

    Wanna see my booth?


  205. darkwords
    205 | November 7, 2012 1:28 am

    in the walking dead they use the correct tools to get rid of the undead.


  206. lobo91
    206 | November 7, 2012 1:29 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    the house “should” go scorched earth on his ass
    total gridlock not a single bill out
    their approval rating is sucking gravel
    own it

    What makes you think he plans to submit anything to Congress?

    He’s got his mandate for dictatorship now.


  207. Emperor
    207 | November 7, 2012 1:30 am

    In a single sentence

    “The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.”


  208. darkwords
    208 | November 7, 2012 1:31 am

    make the pro choicers face benghazi and solyndra.


  209. lobo91
    209 | November 7, 2012 1:31 am

    Emperor wrote:

    In a single sentence

    “The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.”

    Yup


  210. song_and_dance_man
    210 | November 7, 2012 1:32 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    I’m off to ride my stationary bike for half an hour and then to bed.

    Funny, I’ve never seen a bed with a bike rack.


  211. 211 | November 7, 2012 1:34 am

    @ lobo91:

    Not exactly a MANDATE is it?


  212. 212 | November 7, 2012 1:34 am

    @ Lily:

    What happened was what I warned about. A stagnant economy, Benghazi, fast/Furious and a botched Hurricane relief did Obama no damage. This man could anally rape a boy on TV and he would get away with it.


  213. darkwords
    213 | November 7, 2012 1:35 am

    I say Obama is an illusion but people vote for him based on a fear.


  214. darkwords
    214 | November 7, 2012 1:36 am

    Bring donuts to work tomorrow.


  215. lobo91
    215 | November 7, 2012 1:36 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Not exactly a MANDATE is it?

    We already know his motto: “I won.”

    Think that’s going to change?


  216. Emperor
    216 | November 7, 2012 1:36 am

    @ Rodan:
    Well now if it was a dead goat then the media MIGHT mention it…and maybe even say that some crazy Republicans have criticized him for his action.


  217. lobo91
    217 | November 7, 2012 1:37 am

    Time for TOTUS to speak now.


  218. song_and_dance_man
    218 | November 7, 2012 1:37 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Sadly, that’s actually starting to look good…

    it will work for me,

    Ohno the TOTUS TOUTS. News to 11 STAT and all that


  219. song_and_dance_man
    219 | November 7, 2012 1:38 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Not exactly a MANDATE is it?

    According to some reports it is a man date.


  220. Emperor
    220 | November 7, 2012 1:38 am

    P.s. Chris Christie is up for reelection next year.

    He should be primaried.


  221. 221 | November 7, 2012 1:38 am

    Geez, seizure pills and Ambian should now lay me down for a b bit……/..Time to go boooom

    Seezin ypou peeps in the moning 10 AM UP

    Sleepwellll


  222. lobo91
    222 | November 7, 2012 1:38 am

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Maybe this election is what triggers the end of the world in December?


  223. Runner
    223 | November 7, 2012 1:39 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Runner:

    I’ve been off since I got off the plane from Kuwait on August 14th.

    That’s not good to hear Lobo. I sincerely hope something comes your way asap. FWIW, I found myself in the most dire financial straits of my life in the last two years and could not keep up with my mortgage, bills, etc. Then I followed some leads and prodded some people I knew in my field and landed this in-house freelance gig out of nowhere. If not for this temporary (for now) job surrounded my moonbats I probably would have lost my house. I say this not as false encouragement but as a reminder that it really is true that sometimes things happen due to who you know or persistence or both. I have been trying to get my foot in the door at this business for at least three years so I guess persistence and timing has paid off in this case. Hopefully something will come along for you too. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for ya!


  224. song_and_dance_man
    224 | November 7, 2012 1:41 am

    The task of perfecting our Union moves forward.

    I’m thinking Goebbels.


  225. lobo91
    225 | November 7, 2012 1:41 am

    @ Runner:

    That’s not good to hear Lobo. I sincerely hope something comes your way asap.

    Since “my field” is the military and related things, tonight pretty much put the final nail in my professional coffin, unfortunately.

    I’ll be out of savings in three or four months. After that, who knows?


  226. darkwords
    226 | November 7, 2012 1:42 am

    put a resistance symbol up


  227. lobo91
    227 | November 7, 2012 1:42 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    The task of perfecting our Union moves forward.

    I’m thinking Goebbels.

    Is it wrong of me to wish for a terrorist attack on Chicago right about now?


  228. Lily
    228 | November 7, 2012 1:43 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    What happened was what I warned about. A stagnant economy, Benghazi, fast/Furious and a botched Hurricane relief did Obama no damage. This man could anally rape a boy on TV and he would get away with it.

    I believe you…this is just crazy. To be honest. Sad day for our country. I so totally believe you …


  229. 229 | November 7, 2012 1:43 am

    Emperor wrote:

    P.s. Chris Christie is up for reelection next year.
    He should be primaried.

    If he doesn’t get primaried, I will support his Democrat opponent.


  230. 230 | November 7, 2012 1:43 am

    Since no longer necessary to prop up Obama – let’s all watch the stock market and unemployment rates in the next 30 days. And finally, since Soros’ puppet boy is safe from fear of ejection – I imagine he’ll work on manipulating and destroying our currency like he did with Malaysia and the British pound.

    I’m sure Costa Rica will take him when the warrant for his arrest is issued.


  231. lobo91
    231 | November 7, 2012 1:43 am

    Holy crap…I just saw the results from DC.

    Obama got 91% of the vote there.


  232. 232 | November 7, 2012 1:43 am

    @ Lily:

    I have never seen a politician survive what this man has.


  233. 233 | November 7, 2012 1:44 am

    @ Rodan:

    Fat Fuck’s career in politics is over as of now.


  234. song_and_dance_man
    234 | November 7, 2012 1:44 am

    @ lobo91:

    I’m disinclined to hanker a notion like that, but if it comes I would not be adverse to it.


  235. 235 | November 7, 2012 1:45 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Fat Fuck’s career in politics is over as of now.

    It’s an all out war against Jabba the Hut.


  236. darkwords
    236 | November 7, 2012 1:45 am

    you Bear the truth. You rise from the ashes stronger


  237. lobo91
    237 | November 7, 2012 1:45 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And if you have any money left, buy gold and silver.

    I’ll be spending mine on vet bills and canned chicken, apparently…


  238. 238 | November 7, 2012 1:46 am

    Oh and if there’s an emergency – don’t expect Obama the Asshole to break off a golf game for more situation room photos. Because he no longer has to care (which he never did in the first place).


  239. rain of lead
    239 | November 7, 2012 1:46 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Holy crap…I just saw the results from DC.

    Obama got 91% of the vote there.

    well you know what D.C. stands for don’t you
    dark country
    richard prior said so


  240. song_and_dance_man
    240 | November 7, 2012 1:46 am

    The smugness of the Chair is abominable. I’m surprised he hasn’t transplanted his nose further up on his face.


  241. Calo
    241 | November 7, 2012 1:47 am

    Emperor wrote:

    In a single sentence
    “The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.”

    Quoted for truth, sadly.


  242. lobo91
    242 | November 7, 2012 1:47 am

    It’s taking everything I have to keep from throwing my glass at the TV.

    I just keep telling myself that because of him, I can’t afford to replace the glass, much less the plasma TV.


  243. Lily
    243 | November 7, 2012 1:47 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I have never seen a politician survive what this man has.

    Neither have I… Mitt would have been a good President…this is just insanity.


  244. lobo91
    244 | November 7, 2012 1:49 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Holy crap…I just saw the results from DC.

    Obama got 91% of the vote there.

    well you know what D.C. stands for don’t you
    dark country
    richard prior said so

    The only person who ever got a higher percentage of the vote than that was Fidel Castro, or maybe Saddam Hussein.


  245. waldensianspirit
    245 | November 7, 2012 1:50 am

    His speech has no reflection in reality


  246. lobo91
    246 | November 7, 2012 1:50 am

    He wants the “strongest military the world has ever known,” huh?

    Personally, I just wanted to serve the remaining 93 days I needed to qualify for my active duty retirement, after 32 years. I guess that was too much to ask, though.


  247. song_and_dance_man
    247 | November 7, 2012 1:50 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Is it wrong of me to wish for a terrorist attack on Chicago right about now?

    Yeah, and I recant my statement that Iran should be taking out. Israel must make their own decision.

    Oh aladam, Chair just mentioned a warming earth. He must be talking his love affair with the ME that surrounds Israel.


  248. lobo91
    248 | November 7, 2012 1:51 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    His speech has no reflection in reality

    He’s playing to his base.


  249. 249 | November 7, 2012 1:51 am

    @ lobo91:

    Hmmm….. but it couldn’t be because he’s Black or anything like that.


  250. darkwords
    250 | November 7, 2012 1:51 am

    The only reason Obama wins this election is because in the wealthiest society in the history of humankind people still feel their health threatened. There is a traditional conservative approach that can persuade people to be safe but we are not there.It is human nature that needs to be addressed. Romney has addressed it very adequately in himself but the GoP has not.


  251. Lily
    251 | November 7, 2012 1:52 am

    @ lobo91:

    He is a LIAR!


  252. song_and_dance_man
    252 | November 7, 2012 1:52 am

    If I somehow lost all my sensibility I just might like this speech.


  253. 253 | November 7, 2012 1:53 am

    I guess waking up beats the alternative, but some days just barely.


  254. lobo91
    254 | November 7, 2012 1:53 am

    Oh, well…maybe people will actually be interested in spending money at this weekend’s gun show, since we’re looking at the end of the country and all.

    //Bright side


  255. Lily
    255 | November 7, 2012 1:53 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Is it wrong of me to wish for a terrorist attack on Chicago right about now?

    Yeah, and I recant my statement that Iran should be taking out. Israel must make their own decision.

    Oh aladam, Chair just mentioned a warming earth. He must be talking his love affair with the ME that surrounds Israel.

    Israel must be weeping. They are backed into a corner.


  256. 256 | November 7, 2012 1:54 am

    I think I’ll be skipping the morning threads – frankly I don’t need those two attention whores coming to make light of what to me is the death of our Republic.


  257. lobo91
    257 | November 7, 2012 1:54 am

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    He is a LIAR!

    You just noticed that?


  258. 258 | November 7, 2012 1:55 am

    @ Lily:

    They will ally with Russia. They both have the MB as enemies.


  259. lobo91
    259 | November 7, 2012 1:55 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I think I’ll be skipping the morning threads — frankly I don’t need those two attention whores coming to make light of what to me is the death of our Republic.

    Same here


  260. Lily
    260 | November 7, 2012 1:55 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    He is a LIAR!

    You just noticed that?

    LOL! Oh yeah..long time ago. ;)


  261. Lily
    261 | November 7, 2012 1:57 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    They will ally with Russia. They both have the MB as enemies.

    They have no choice … I know this my head hurts. There are so many stupid people in our country.


  262. song_and_dance_man
    262 | November 7, 2012 1:57 am

    ‘Our diversity is shared’.

    Code for giving up our sovereignty


  263. lobo91
    263 | November 7, 2012 1:57 am

    @ Lily:

    Israel must be weeping. They are backed into a corner.

    I wonder if they have anything useful for me to do there?

    The Australian military is actively recruiting our people now, but I’m too old.


  264. Lily
    264 | November 7, 2012 1:58 am

    @ lobo91:

    Indeed. I think I will sleep as late as I want. Did the Europeons vote in our election some how?


  265. lobo91
    265 | November 7, 2012 1:58 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    ‘Our diversity is shared’.

    Code for giving up our sovereignty

    Actually, I think that’s code for “Fuck you, whitey…give me your stuff”


  266. Lily
    266 | November 7, 2012 2:00 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Oh, well…maybe people will actually be interested in spending money at this weekend’s gun show, since we’re looking at the end of the country and all.

    //Bright side

    Probably so! Good luck there I’m sure you will be busy. At least a little bit of luck for you lobo! ;)


  267. Lily
    267 | November 7, 2012 2:01 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    ‘Our diversity is shared’.

    Code for giving up our sovereignty

    I’m not listening but I can hear his voice from the other room …it’s annoying.


  268. lobo91
    268 | November 7, 2012 2:02 am

    @ Lily:

    Probably so! Good luck there I’m sure you will be busy. At least a little bit of luck for you lobo!

    I hope Leia is feeling better. I think she’s my main asset.


  269. song_and_dance_man
    269 | November 7, 2012 2:03 am

    ‘we care for our own’

    Code from the Boss and for us, we are screwed.


  270. lobo91
    270 | November 7, 2012 2:03 am

    @ Lily:

    Everything he said was bullshit.

    It’s like the speech from Bizzaro World.


  271. Lily
    271 | November 7, 2012 2:03 am

    @ lobo91:

    I hope she is too … little prayer up for Leia!


  272. Guggi
    272 | November 7, 2012 2:04 am

    So, O. wins re-election ? It’s a sad day.


  273. Aussie Infidel
    273 | November 7, 2012 2:04 am

    What the heel have you guys done? You had the City on the Hill and you turned it into a brothel. The USA land of the exceptional has cashed in its chips for a handful of european socialism. Not only had the entitled underclass in America fucked your own country you have totally screwed the rest of the world too. 52 million obamabots speak and all we can look forward to is a World Depression and Israel using their bombs to defend themselves because B. Hassan Obama sure won’t.
    My only hope is that some of the massive capital flight heads this way and we get some relief for the next decade of zero growth.

    Charming .


  274. Lily
    274 | November 7, 2012 2:04 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    ‘we care for our own’

    Code from the Boss and for us, we are screwed.

    Royally! Let’s not forget his *enemy list*.


  275. 275 | November 7, 2012 2:05 am

    @ lobo91:

    She’s such a pretty girl. I wish it were possible to hug her picture.


  276. Lily
    276 | November 7, 2012 2:06 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Not fly-over-country or the southern part of our country..it was the East and West Coasts that screwed us over.


  277. Guggi
    277 | November 7, 2012 2:06 am

    I didn’t understand why O. was elected in the first place and his re-election is a miracle for me.


  278. 278 | November 7, 2012 2:06 am

    I don’t effing believe this.
    So much stress today, I’m developing a stye on my left eye.


  279. lobo91
    279 | November 7, 2012 2:06 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    She’s such a pretty girl. I wish it were possible to hug her picture.

    You should have seen all the little kids who wanted to pet her and hug her at the last gun show.

    Too bad their parents didn’t spend any money…


  280. Lily
    280 | November 7, 2012 2:07 am

    Guggi wrote:

    So, O. wins re-election ? It’s a sad day.

    Very sad day…and it started off bad to boot.


  281. 281 | November 7, 2012 2:07 am

    @ Lily:

    No, the midwest screwed us too, didn’t they = Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan.


  282. 282 | November 7, 2012 2:07 am

    Lily wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    Not fly-over-country or the southern part of our country..it was the East and West Coasts that screwed us over.

    Flyover country went for Obama. Look at the Map. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa. All considered flyover and they went Marxist.


  283. song_and_dance_man
    283 | November 7, 2012 2:08 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Actually, I think that’s code for “Fuck you, whitey…give me your stuff”

    I think this is the first time I’ve EVER seen you use words like that. But yeah, I agree, it was a fuck you, I got other plans that are you must dig and get along, speech.


  284. lobo91
    284 | November 7, 2012 2:08 am

    Lily wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    ‘we care for our own’

    Code from the Boss and for us, we are screwed.

    Royally! Let’s not forget his *enemy list*.

    Pretty sure I’m on it.

    I can’t even get a new ID card to access what few benefits I’m legally entitled to.


  285. Lily
    285 | November 7, 2012 2:08 am

    Guggi wrote:

    I didn’t understand why O. was elected in the first place and his re-election is a miracle for me.

    Not a miracle …but a darkness that has over come our country.


  286. 286 | November 7, 2012 2:09 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    This shows the power of the Media-Industrial complex. Obama was practically untouchable and get away with murder.


  287. Guggi
    287 | November 7, 2012 2:09 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan.

    …and they should suffer most from this stupid choice.


  288. Calo
    288 | November 7, 2012 2:09 am

    Guggi wrote:

    So, O. wins re-election ? It’s a sad day.

    Guggi, it’s been a terrible day indeed.

    We let the world down and are on a straight path to a European style Socialism.

    And,{{NT2U}} is terribly missed today


  289. Aussie Infidel
    289 | November 7, 2012 2:10 am

    And guess what. Tomorrow the Country club RINOs will be out in force making sure that there are no Tea Party-ers anywhere near the levers of political power. RINOs know that they hold the ONLY l to more socialism. RINOs offer socialism -lite and at a slower pace. Yet Nobody will have the intestinal fortitude to oppose these wreckers. Third parties are just a recipe for perpetual Democrat socialist rule ad nauseum.

    My US Army mates are pissed but determined to leave as soon as their time is up. Why work for a bastard who hates the military and lies bare faced whilst leaves those in harms way twisting in the wind.

    Yet the populous appears not to care a jot anymore.


  290. Lily
    290 | November 7, 2012 2:12 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    Not fly-over-country or the southern part of our country..it was the East and West Coasts that screwed us over.

    Flyover country went for Obama. Look at the Map. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa. All considered flyover ad they went Marxist.

    You are right …haven’t looked at the map…but to be honest I can’t believe those states went obama with all those coal plants fixing to be shut down with nothing to replace them. So basically the south held on to try and save our country.


  291. Guggi
    291 | November 7, 2012 2:12 am

    Calo wrote:

    And,{{NT2U}} is terribly missed today

    yes, she is.


  292. Aussie Infidel
    292 | November 7, 2012 2:13 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    This shows the power of the Media-Industrial complex. Obama was practically untouchable and get away with murder.

    Obama DID get away with murder. He was an accomplice before the fact in Benghazi.


  293. Lily
    293 | November 7, 2012 2:14 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    This shows the power of the Media-Industrial complex. Obama was practically untouchable and get away with murder.

    Excatly he has gotten away with murder….American lives were murdered and HE DID NOTHING.


  294. 4_Sticks
    294 | November 7, 2012 2:15 am

    I just can’t believe the majority of my country tonight chose to spit in the eye of the mothers/fathers, wives/children of those 4 Americans who were murdered by terrorists in Libya this past September and the families of those who lost their lives because of project F n F miserable failure. Imagine what it must be like for them to see on TV this revelry …
    “Signed Sealed Delivered’ in deed. COD, DOA.
    Americans died, Obama lied.

    God bless our Military. I don’t know how they do it anymore, I really don’t.


  295. lobo91
    295 | November 7, 2012 2:16 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan.

    …and they should suffer most from this stupid choice.

    But they won’t. Iowa will continue to rake in subsidies to turn corn into ethanol that nobody wants and drive up world food prices.

    And Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin will continue getting their subsidies to build cars nobody wants to buy.


  296. song_and_dance_man
    296 | November 7, 2012 2:17 am

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    What the heel have you guys done? You had the City on the Hill and you turned it into a brothel. The USA land of the exceptional has cashed in its chips for a handful of european socialism. Not only had the entitled underclass in America fucked your own country you have totally screwed the rest of the world too. 52 million obamabots speak and all we can look forward to is a World Depression and Israel using their bombs to defend themselves because B. Hassan Obama sure won’t.
    My only hope is that some of the massive capital flight heads this way and we get some relief for the next decade of zero growth.

    Charming .

    That might be better served on a site that leans the other way.

    I will not submit excuses for us and our determination to have it another way.

    We are pissed and garner no pleasure nor solace from some detached observer on the other side of nothing that matters right now.

    Charming indeed


  297. waldensianspirit
    297 | November 7, 2012 2:17 am

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Yet the populous appears not to care a jot anymore.

    Oh they care. They are willing to have a lower quality of life if it means people they hate have a lower quality of life


  298. lobo91
    298 | November 7, 2012 2:20 am

    I really wish I wasn’t saddled with an underwater mortgage on a house my ex-wife talked me into buying.

    I’d be looking into moving completely off the grid someplace about now, otherwise.


  299. waldensianspirit
    299 | November 7, 2012 2:20 am

    Just listening to cspan calls by his supporters tells the tale of the tape. They dream of lessening the lives of Americans they hate. Their voices are gleeful on the subject


  300. Guggi
    300 | November 7, 2012 2:21 am

    The Demoncrats have already demonized the Republicans that much I’ve no hope this will change soon.

    Romney was libeled in a way I’ve not seen before as: stupid, greedy rich, religious fanatic of a cult, capitalist of the worst kind who will let the people starve to death and who will destroy the earth.

    You won’t believe it but O. is seen everywhere as the great thinker, a political genius, a man who cares for the people.

    All the lies from the Democrats worked fine.

    Not only the U.S.A. are f*cked, we all are especially the people in the ME.


  301. Aussie Infidel
    301 | November 7, 2012 2:22 am

    Lily wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Not fly-over-country or the southern part of our country..it was the East and West Coasts that screwed us over.

    Yet whilst the Democratic progressives abort their children in increasing numbers they need to import voters who demand entitlements to remain in power. Alas that system becomes self sustaining once it’s bedded in and damn difficult to ever break. That means the current Republican brand can’t come back from this. Yet if you head down the Third party track you just split the vote and the result is the same. Permanent socialism, of one type or another.

    Still the nominal period before socialism dies is 70 years on average. You might get a shot in 2082 :)


  302. lobo91
    302 | November 7, 2012 2:22 am

    @ Guggi:

    Not only the U.S.A. are f*cked, we all are especially the people in the ME.

    Unfortunately, by the time they figure it out, it’ll be too late.


  303. waldensianspirit
    303 | November 7, 2012 2:23 am

    The green is on the twigs


  304. song_and_dance_man
    304 | November 7, 2012 2:24 am

    Guggi wrote:

    I didn’t understand why O. was elected in the first place and his re-election is a miracle for me.

    apathy to the core


  305. Guggi
    305 | November 7, 2012 2:25 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    But they won’t. Iowa will continue to rake in subsidies to turn corn into ethanol that nobody wants and drive up world food prices.
    And Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin will continue getting their subsidies to build cars nobody wants to buy.

    yep and that’s the reason they voted for O.

    Their votes were bought with this subsidies.


  306. lobo91
    306 | November 7, 2012 2:27 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Yet whilst the Democratic progressives abort their children in increasing numbers they need to import voters who demand entitlements to remain in power. Alas that system becomes self sustaining once it’s bedded in and damn difficult to ever break.

    The seeds for this were all planted in the mid- to late-’60s. They’ve now come into full bloom.

    LBJ traded the south for the urban blacks, who have been returned to slavery as a result.

    Ted Kennedy got his immigration bill passed, which capped immigration of people we could actually use (educated Europeans) and allowed unlimited immigration of peasants from Latin America.

    And Roe v. Wade enshrined unrestricted abortion in our Constitution.

    What we saw tonight was the inevitable result of those three things.


  307. Guggi
    307 | November 7, 2012 2:29 am

    4_Sticks wrote:

    I just can’t believe the majority of my country tonight chose to spit in the eye of the mothers/fathers, wives/children of those 4 Americans who were murdered by terrorists in Libya this past September and the families of those who lost their lives because of project F n F miserable failure. Imagine what it must be like for them to see on TV this revelry …
    “Signed Sealed Delivered’ in deed. COD, DOA.
    Americans died, Obama lied.
    God bless our Military. I don’t know how they do it anymore, I really don’t.

    They don’t care anymore. The MSM has done a “good” job.


  308. lobo91
    308 | November 7, 2012 2:29 am

    @ Guggi:

    yep and that’s the reason they voted for O.

    Their votes were bought with this subsidies.

    Which were paid for using money borrowed from China, that their grandchildren will pay for.


  309. Aussie Infidel
    309 | November 7, 2012 2:32 am

    Welcome to my world where I get to choose every three years.

    I can vote for a socialist conservative Labour Party; that doesn’t really want to understand the market and just screws it up and gets into debt . Or I can get to vote for a conservative socialist who talks the conservative talk but acts like a socialist when it counts because they love the power over the hoi Poloi.
    .

    Some Choice ehhhh?


  310. Aussie Infidel
    310 | November 7, 2012 2:36 am

    @ lobo91:
    Very true lobo.

    Unfortunately.

    Actually you can trace it back to the 1890s through to the mid 1930s when the progressive establishment bedded itself deep into the system

    The US survives this long simply because it was very robust. Greece… not so much! It just took longer for the progressives to ‘get’ the US that’s all. :)


  311. waldensianspirit
    311 | November 7, 2012 2:36 am

    So the next Republican, whose turn it is, will be Chris Cristie or Jeb Bush

    Don’t know when I’ll get to vote again. Not sure who in 8 or 12 years


  312. lobo91
    312 | November 7, 2012 2:39 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    So the next Republican, whose turn it is, will be Chris Cristie or Jeb Bush

    Don’t know when I’ll get to vote again. Not sure who in 8 or 12 years

    Not sure that it’ll even matter at that point.

    We’ll have a debt to GDP ratio of well over 100% before then, at which point we’re done.


  313. lobo91
    313 | November 7, 2012 2:40 am

    Well, I’ve had enough fun for one night.

    I’m going to go to bed and stare at the ceiling while contemplating how things got this screwed up.


  314. Aussie Infidel
    314 | November 7, 2012 2:44 am

    WSJ estimates that by 2027 91% of US tax will go to debt servicing and welfare.

    Not too much left over for all the rest is there?

    You can then join us (right now) where there are more LTC and above than there are Captains and Lieutenants in the military.

    And all feathering their nests on the peoples’ dime.


  315. Guggi
    315 | November 7, 2012 2:44 am

    There is a German journalist, Hannes Stein, who became an US-citizen in the last years. Usually he is a more conservative wrting for “Weltwoche” (Switzerland) and “Die Welt” (Germany). He claims he is lsited as a Republican but he wrote an article in “Die Welt” why he is voting for O.

    1) He doesn’t see why Obamacare should harm the country and healthcare workes well in Switzerland, though it will work well in the U.S.A.

    2) Romney wouldn’t change O.’s foreign policy and people have enough of the wars like Iraq and Iran. Both wouldn’t be that anti-Israel as Eisenhower was 1956. Beghazi is only a stupid conspiracy theory of the Republicans and that the killed mabassador didn’t get more protection was only a mistake and such misjudgments can happen everywhere.

    3) The GOP is rotten from the core – all of this is Bush’s fault – and they see the Democrats as some sort of Communists which is ridiculous they are not even near. In his opinion Democrats are liberal thinkers who care also for the country.

    Link

    —-

    The bad and sad joke is that he admits that the European “Wohlfahrtsstaat” is no longer payable but he doesn’t mention with one word the O. deficits, his stimulus, the mounting debts and the economy in shreds.

    Btw.: he is a strong defender of Israel. Nonetheless I won’t read his articles anymore.


  316. Aussie Infidel
    316 | November 7, 2012 2:45 am

    G’nite Lob


  317. Guggi
    317 | November 7, 2012 2:46 am

    Sorry for the spelling. :-(


  318. 4_Sticks
    318 | November 7, 2012 2:46 am

    Not very comforting to think the only light at the end of this tunnel is the the day I/we get to say “Told you so …”


  319. Aussie Infidel
    319 | November 7, 2012 2:47 am

    Yet another pretend conservative.

    Now the US is even importing RINOs. I thought you guys already had enough! :) @ Guggi:


  320. Lost
    320 | November 7, 2012 2:54 am

    Making the rounds on facebook:
    Q. Why did Obama need a second term?
    A. To chop off American’s second testicle


  321. 4_Sticks
    321 | November 7, 2012 2:54 am

    They are SOOOOOooo clueless, so moronic that none of ‘em ‘got it’ that their idol/hero Steven Colbert goofed on Glenn Beck mercilessly for advising his audience to buy ‘food insurance’ in prep for some type of disaster, natural or otherwise and now the NYC/NJ Colbert audience is begging for such supplies… AAAhhh, I can’t even finish this … they are sooo F*CKIN” CLUELESS that my heads about to explode just typing this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CLUELESS F*CKIN’ LIBERAL FOOLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And how ya feelin’ about now Colbert you traitorous pr*ck – BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS … f*ck it, f*ck YOU !!!!


  322. 322 | November 7, 2012 2:55 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    The American people don’t care about the blood he has. This man is teflon thanks to the media.


  323. Lost
    323 | November 7, 2012 2:58 am

    @ lobo91:
    Are you sure about that?


  324. Moe Katz
    324 | November 7, 2012 3:00 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    How do you distinguish between a conservative and a reactionary?


  325. Guggi
    325 | November 7, 2012 3:00 am

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Yet another pretend conservative.
    Now the US is even importing RINOs. I thought you guys already had enough! @ Guggi:

    yep and I’m in shock.


  326. Lost
    326 | November 7, 2012 3:01 am

    @ Rodan:
    Unfortunately, tonight taught me one thing. More than half of voting Americans do NOT share the same values I do.

    That is very sad indeed.


  327. 4_Sticks
    327 | November 7, 2012 3:01 am

    @ Rodan:

    Only the beginning too.


  328. MrPaulRevere
    328 | November 7, 2012 3:02 am

    Well this sucks. While Romney ran a flawed campaign (another subject for another time) I lay this stinking pile of scheiss squarely at the feet of the Bush family who took the Republican brand which was in sterling shape in 1988 and promptly drove it into the ground. I swear to God, if I ever hear the name George W. Bush uttered in my presence something bad will happen.


  329. MrPaulRevere
    329 | November 7, 2012 3:09 am

    Rodan, you and I have had the discussion before. I believe the conservative movement died on Jan. 20 1989 and the Bush family were the undertakers.


  330. ThreeHundred
    330 | November 7, 2012 3:17 am

    I have nothing in common with the people that voted for Obama..nothing. Our visions of America couldn’t be more different. How do we reconcile that? How do we as a country continue with a single identity when such a vast number of us are at total odds with the rest? I don’t think we can. We need a country to call our own.


  331. Guggi
    331 | November 7, 2012 3:18 am

    Emperor wrote:

    In a single sentence
    “The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.”

    That is what they have done in Europe and still do in France for decades. It’s called welfare state.


  332. Lost
    332 | November 7, 2012 3:18 am

    @ ThreeHundred:
    I hear you but I don’t know if a country of our own will work. Where do we find this country?


  333. MrPaulRevere
    333 | November 7, 2012 3:23 am

    @ ThreeHundred:
    I agree with the sentiment 100%. As for myself I will continue to live according to the founding principles of rugged individualism and self reliance. My own little Constitutional experiment if you will. It’s all I have left at this point.


  334. 4_Sticks
    334 | November 7, 2012 3:24 am

    And to think Romney promised energy independence. I’ve always felt that the proof positive that we were ‘insane’ as a nation is that we let out own natural resources sit below us untapped while buying same from our enemies was. Imagine if you ran your own household like this ? Freakin’ bat sh*t crazy – the ol’ lady would have your bags packed.
    Knowing that this will now never happen in my life time when we were soooo freakin close…. I seriously am not looking forward to waking up in the morning….I don’t need another 16 waking hours of this anxiety. I just watched our country pop off a round to the noggin and I’m not dealing well with the sight of it. Not trying to be overly dramatic here but i’m serious – I don’t want to go to bed because I don’t want to face tomorrow. Tomorrow was supposed to be a ray of hope. I wanted to wake up to the sun beaming through my windows, relaxing with my morning coffee knowing that my country was finally going to get on the right track. I looked forward to the enthusiasm of those who wanted to ‘create’ finally feeling they had a break coming.
    How to I explain to the younger ones that the boot is about to apply more pressure and almost assuredly things are only going to get worse. Marriage ? A house ? Kids ? “Sorry guys, I really wouldn’t advise it right now.” Well, when ??? “I can’t really say …”. Isn’t this the time I should be planning these things ? I’m not gettin’ any younger.
    “Sorry, you may have to sit this one out kid”. Nice. Real F’n nice ….


  335. ThreeHundred
    335 | November 7, 2012 3:28 am

    @ Lost
    @ Mr. Paul Revere

    I wish I had answers, for my small children’s sake. May they forgive, for what we have left them.


  336. 4_Sticks
    336 | November 7, 2012 3:37 am

    @ ThreeHundred:

    May they understand that ‘we’ didn’t leave it for them, we did what we could in law abiding civilized society. Mine will know, form my words, exactly what my feelings are. I hope that if yours are too young to know that you didn’t take a part in burning this b*tch down, you or someone you know/trust will explain to them someday, who you were and what you stood for. I understand exactly what you are saying and how you are feeling right now. Every action/decision I’ve made over the past 25+ years has been with their futures in mind. To think supposed ‘adults’ helped usher in this .. this…. mess… absolutely boggles my mind.
    I only hope their own kids curse them and their memories.


  337. MrPaulRevere
    337 | November 7, 2012 3:39 am

    @ ThreeHundred: Best wishes to you. Don’t despair. Its time to start plotting our comeback.


  338. 4_Sticks
    338 | November 7, 2012 3:40 am

    pimfcity: ‘from’,,,, words/deeds etc etc. 2 days now, no sleep. First 36 = anticipation – in a positive way. The rest = apprehension.


  339. 4_Sticks
    339 | November 7, 2012 3:43 am

    Time to face the facts and try to rest before I bring on the big one. Feelin’ a bit ill. F*ck tomorrow.


  340. Guggi
    340 | November 7, 2012 3:43 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    How do you distinguish between a conservative and a reactionary?

    a reactionare wants to establish a political system with anti-democratic rules (no elections) and where people have no say (like in Europe during the 18th century or more modern with dictators). A conservative is values based and rejects the ruling of the plebs and a conservative rejects to much government.

    That’s why the founding fathers introduced checks and balances into the US-constitution. The founding fathers were more on the side of Aristotle the Europeans have always been on the side of Platon.

    “Democracy” – this was the criticism of Aristotle on Platon – leads to the ruling of the plebs this means decisions are not made to the best of the country and all people in this country but what fits best the plebs.


  341. Guggi
    341 | November 7, 2012 3:46 am

    Guggi wrote:

    fits best the plebs

    but what fits the plebs best. Better ?


  342. ThreeHundred
    342 | November 7, 2012 3:49 am

    It’s like the zombie-apocolypse, we’re outnumbered, and no amount of wishing, hoping or voting will get us out of this future.


  343. Moe Katz
    343 | November 7, 2012 3:49 am

    @ Guggi:
    What is in the best interest of the plebs, I’d say.

    Here is Wikipedia’s take on it.


  344. ThreeHundred
    344 | November 7, 2012 3:50 am

    If ever there was a solid case for moving on from a failed presidency, it was this, and it didn’t happen..system broke.


  345. Moe Katz
    345 | November 7, 2012 3:51 am

    @ ThreeHundred:
    Let’s put this in perspective. A particular ethnic group comprising 13% of the population voted over 90% for a candidate of said ethnicity. This won’t always be the case.


  346. ThreeHundred
    346 | November 7, 2012 3:56 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    ‘The problem with Scotland, is, it’s full of Scotts’ -Longshanks.

    …that arguement?


  347. Moe Katz
    347 | November 7, 2012 3:59 am

    @ ThreeHundred:
    Not sure if that’s what I meant. I just think that ethnic bloc voting of that magnitude would likely be a self-limiting phenomenon.


  348. Moe Katz
    348 | November 7, 2012 4:01 am

    I can’t help wondering how Herman would have made out, if his personal peccadilloes hadn’t scuppered his boat.


  349. ThreeHundred
    349 | November 7, 2012 4:07 am

    Does an ideological block have rights that can be denied by the Federal system? I think that is at issue here. We will forever, as things stand now, be denied self-determination and governance. This is a problem.


  350. 350 | November 7, 2012 4:11 am

    Maybe I should just join the ‘I don’t want to bother working, so I’ll just sit here in my @ss and wait for a handout’ portion of America.


  351. ThreeHundred
    351 | November 7, 2012 4:17 am

    @ mfhorn:

    I have considered that as well, …just let it all fail, then rebuild for the better.


  352. Guggi
    352 | November 7, 2012 4:18 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    What is in the best interest of the plebs, I’d say.
    Here is Wikipedia’s take on it.

    I don’t agree with it. It refers only to the time since the name came up but that’s not true. This is as if you would claim “terrorism” was invented by the French Revolution only because they called it “le terreur” the first time. But there was “terrorism” long before the French Revolutuion think e.g. of the Waldensians in France or the Jews and Romans after Massada when hundred of thousands Jewish women, children and elderly were killed only because they were Jews.

    The re-establisment of the Emporer in the Roman Empire was nothing else than reactionism.


  353. Guggi
    353 | November 7, 2012 4:22 am

    ThreeHundred wrote:

    Does an ideological block have rights that can be denied by the Federal system? I think that is at issue here. We will forever, as things stand now, be denied self-determination and governance. This is a problem.

    ..and with the decision of the Supreme Court on Obamacare you can’t count on them anymore to defend the constitution. It isn’t like it was with Roosevelt’s first New Deal when die Supreme Court put it in shreds.


  354. Moe Katz
    354 | November 7, 2012 4:28 am

    @ Guggi:
    Oh, sure. I think they’re more focused on the terms themselves, and how they came to define the political spectrum.


  355. ThreeHundred
    355 | November 7, 2012 4:35 am

    @ Guggi:

    The constitution has been voided by this administration.


  356. Buckeye Abroad
    356 | November 7, 2012 4:41 am

    It was a fine Republic while it lasted.

    Good luck everyone. Glad Nothreat was Not here to witness this.

    See you on the other side.


  357. ThreeHundred
    357 | November 7, 2012 4:42 am

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    That about sums it up.


  358. 358 | November 7, 2012 4:47 am

    At the moment, at least, I’m tending to agree with ‘ThreeHundred.” It was a battle between the “Free” army and the “Free Shit” army. And the “Free Shit” army is now clearly in the majority. This was foretold by Franklin, De Toqueville and others over two centuries ago, and it appears it may have come to pass. If it has, there may be no way back.


  359. Guggi
    359 | November 7, 2012 4:48 am

    ThreeHundred wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    The constitution has been voided by this administration.

    Yep and it will become worse.


  360. Guggi
    360 | November 7, 2012 4:49 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    At the moment, at least, I’m tending to agree with ‘ThreeHundred.” It was a battle between the “Free” army and the “Free Shit” army. And the “Free Shit” army is now clearly in the majority. This was foretold by Franklin, De Toqueville and others over two centuries ago, and it appears it may have come to pass. If it has, there may be no way back.

    I totally agree with you and “ThreeHundred”


  361. Guggi
    361 | November 7, 2012 4:50 am

    @ Mike C.:

    There is no way back, believe me, we Europeans know this.


  362. 362 | November 7, 2012 5:07 am

    The only difference is that many Americans are armed, where as Europeans, for the most part, disarmed themselves decades ago. Whether this matters is still to be seen. No rational person would wish for this to become a decisive factor, but the possibilities are rapidly narrowing.


  363. Guggi
    363 | November 7, 2012 5:14 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    The only difference is that many Americans are armed, where as Europeans, for the most part, disarmed themselves decades ago. Whether this matters is still to be seen. No rational person would wish for this to become a decisive factor, but the possibilities are rapidly narrowing.

    Oh, c’mmon you betray yourself. Armed or not armed nothing will happen.


  364. 364 | November 7, 2012 5:19 am

    @ Guggi:

    Probably correct.


  365. 365 | November 7, 2012 5:24 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I don’t wish for an armed conflict anyway. I’m not unarmed, but I’m not that good a shot. And I certainly don’t want my children and grandchildren in such a thing.

    Hope you guys in Europe don’t need another rescue, because if that happens, all you’ll get from this side of the Atlantic next time is an answering machine or a redirect to the Happy Happy Free Shit site. Good luck!


  366. 366 | November 7, 2012 5:28 am

    ThreeHundred wrote:

    I have nothing in common with the people that voted for Obama..nothing. Our visions of America couldn’t be more different. How do we reconcile that? How do we as a country continue with a single identity when such a vast number of us are at total odds with the rest? I don’t think we can. We need a country to call our own.

    That’s why I’m a secessionist.

    Since that isn’t likely to happen anytime soon, we will be looking for someplace else to spend what little is left of our lifetimes.

    Curse me out if you will, but we can’t survive here.

    Guggi wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    At the moment, at least, I’m tending to agree with ‘ThreeHundred.” It was a battle between the “Free” army and the “Free Shit” army. And the “Free Shit” army is now clearly in the majority. This was foretold by Franklin, De Toqueville and others over two centuries ago, and it appears it may have come to pass. If it has, there may be no way back.
    I totally agree with you and “ThreeHundred”

    Yup.

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    It was a fine Republic while it lasted.
    Good luck everyone. Glad Nothreat was Not here to witness this.
    See you on the other side.

    I find myself envying her. Sad.


  367. 367 | November 7, 2012 5:35 am

    Good morning everyone. Well, good in we are still alive. A little something to take your minds off the past night.


  368. 368 | November 7, 2012 5:42 am

    @ Emperor:

    Four more years of $1`trillion deficits. By 2016, we will be over $21 trillion in debt. I don’t see how we can ever dig out of that hole. We’re done. This term will break the back of America. There will be no recovery from the Depression that we are in.


  369. 369 | November 7, 2012 5:46 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    The free world just got a whole lot less free.


  370. 370 | November 7, 2012 5:48 am

    @ 1389AD:

    There you go again. Advocating a civil war while annoucing your (pie-in-the sky) plans to run away while others fight it.

    I told myself when I woke up this morning and read the news that I would be hearing this from you.

    I’m just not in the mood for this kind of crap this morning… Have fun in Russia or wherever…


  371. 371 | November 7, 2012 5:54 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    There you go again. Advocating a civil war while annoucing your (pie-in-the sky) plans to run away while others fight it.
    I told myself when I woke up this morning and read the news that I would be hearing this from you.
    I’m just not in the mood for this kind of crap this morning… Have fun in Russia or wherever…

    Thanks to your long-time occupation you get to spend the vast majority of your time on foreign shores, making a decent living, while everyone else suffers here. Other than the fact that you still intend to retain US citizenship (at least for now), how is that any different?

    For all intents and purposes, the US Constitution and the rule of law has been rendered null and void. It WILL take a revolution to restore it. But you won’t be there to fight it – you’ll be overseas making a much better living than I can possibly make here.


  372. 372 | November 7, 2012 5:58 am

    I’ve got that 2nd interview for the job with DirecTV this afternoon. This should be interesting- my feet are still killing me after working the polling place yesterday (my pedometer shows I walked over 5 miles). This opening is SO close to being a pyramid, but there’s no investment required (no ‘buy in’). But you do have to get 2 people under you to get promoted. I might look at doing it part time to see what it’s like. And keep looking for something else full time!


  373. Prebanned
    373 | November 7, 2012 6:05 am

    @ mfhorn:
    Never quit looking.


  374. 374 | November 7, 2012 6:16 am

    @ Prebanned:

    But..but..I want to be like the OBots and just sit there with my hand out, waiting for flying unicorns to crap gold in my hand!

    Sadly, my wife is an Obot. But at least she puts in a hard day’s work at her job.


  375. Prebanned
    375 | November 7, 2012 6:25 am

    @ mfhorn:
    Start a “company” with your wife as the owner, apply for grant.
    Might as well get a few crumbs of the next 5 trillion.
    Might be more than that if we bail out California.
    I don’t see how the country does not vote for the democrats in 2016 no matter what happens in the next four years.


  376. 376 | November 7, 2012 6:31 am

    @ 1389AD:

    Yeah, I’m really enjoying all the time I get to spend in the Turd World, away from my family and my home while working 7 days a week.

    That’s sarcasm, FYI. And I spent 7 months this year alone totally unemployed, adding to my years of doing so, so don’t give me that crap – I ain’t buying.


  377. Bumr50
    377 | November 7, 2012 6:35 am

    I remarked yesterday that when I went to my polling place I witnessed the Post Office arrive, en masse and in uniform looking worried.

    During the day yesterday, on the factory floor at work, I witnessed no less than three frantic phone calls by idiots chiding their significant others that they HAD to go vote for Obama.

    Obama got out his vote through fear and lies that Romney was going to TAKE something away from the American people.


  378. Prebanned
    378 | November 7, 2012 6:38 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    I remarked yesterday that when I went to my polling place I witnessed the Post Office arrive, en masse and in uniform looking worried.
    During the day yesterday, on the factory floor at work, I witnessed no less than three frantic phone calls by idiots chiding their significant others that they HAD to go vote for Obama.
    Obama got out his vote through fear and lies that Romney was going to TAKE something away from the American people.

    That won’t work in 2016, there won’t be anything left.


  379. 379 | November 7, 2012 6:39 am

    @ Prebanned:

    Hmmm. That’s an idea. She IS a government auditor.

    As far as 2016, it’s hard to say. I saw someone pushing a Hillary/Queen Michelle ticket then. Good God no.

    Tea Party has to get its act together. We’ve got to stop this agenda as best we can.


  380. 380 | November 7, 2012 6:47 am

    Not sure what the result will be for Col. West. Last I see shows him down by about 2,000 votes.


  381. Moe Katz
    381 | November 7, 2012 6:49 am

    @ mfhorn:
    If the tea party took some interest in environmental issues they would be the green tea party.


  382. Tanker
    383 | November 7, 2012 6:52 am

    We now know that all the pundits saying the polls can’t be right were full of shit. Michael Barone was so far off the mark with his forecast, he too has shown himself useless. This nation has voted itself into a corner and I don’t see it changing anytime soon, surely not in what’s left of my life!

    I wept for the nation as I went to bed last, and no better feelings returned to me this morning. Long hard days are in store and I only hope this nation is strong enough to weather that storm.


  383. 384 | November 7, 2012 6:55 am

    And what a fucked-up way to mark my 52nd birthday. Fuck.


  384. 385 | November 7, 2012 6:56 am

    Sad day for America. Our enemies must be cheering.


  385. Guggi
    386 | November 7, 2012 6:57 am

    Tanker wrote:

    Long hard days are in store and I only hope this nation is strong enough to weather that storm.

    I doubt it. The “Army of the Free stuff” has tasted blood and it will not give up. Look at Europe. Even our “conservatives” are more like O. than even JFK.

    If you look for a third (a fourth/fifth will follow) party be aware what happens in Europe. Whomoever you elect you get a coalition with the same sh*t you wanted to vote out. Germany’s next government is to be said a coalition between CDU/CSU and the Greenies. Good night Germany. Greenies are the real cancer of the earth.


  386. Guggi
    387 | November 7, 2012 6:58 am

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Our enemies must be cheering.

    Yes they do.


  387. Guggi
    388 | November 7, 2012 6:58 am

    Macker wrote:

    And what a fucked-up way to mark my 52nd birthday. Fuck.

    Happy Birthday, Macker !


  388. 389 | November 7, 2012 7:03 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Yeah, I’m really enjoying all the time I get to spend in the Turd World, away from my family and my home while working 7 days a week.
    That’s sarcasm, FYI. And I spent 7 months this year alone totally unemployed, adding to my years of doing so, so don’t give me that crap — I ain’t buying.

    I don’t CARE whether you are enjoying yourself or not. The point I’m making is that, when you are out of the US, you are able to survive. In the US, not so much.

    “…so don’t give me that crap — I ain’t buying…”

    I don’t CARE about your self-righteous attitude. Save it for your OWN blog.

    Facts are facts. We’re looking at the end of the Weimar Republic. We are looking at Russia in 1917. There’s no payoff in going down with the ship.


  389. 390 | November 7, 2012 7:03 am

    @ 1389AD:

    ADDENDUM

    Oh, as as to your suggestion that I would even consider revoking my US citizenship, here’s a hearfelt “Eff you!” to you and the horse you rode in on.


  390. Prebanned
    391 | November 7, 2012 7:05 am

    Macker wrote:

    And what a fucked-up way to mark my 52nd birthday. Fuck.

    Happy birthday!
    (not a masochist, huh)


  391. 392 | November 7, 2012 7:06 am

    The Muslims are happy.


  392. 393 | November 7, 2012 7:06 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    ADDENDUM
    Oh, as as to your suggestion that I would even consider revoking my US citizenship, here’s a hearfelt “Eff you!” to you and the horse you rode in on.

    Of course you won’t revoke it. It’s the basis of your snotty self-righteousness to maintain “citizenship” in a country that you can’t make a living in, and in which your vote and your voice no longer counts for anything, and that has completely abandoned all the principles it was founded on.

    You aren’t a citizen, you’re a subject. Face it.


  393. 394 | November 7, 2012 7:07 am

    WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED??????????????????????????????

    /OH,and happy birthday, Macker!


  394. Tanker
    395 | November 7, 2012 7:08 am

    @ Guggi:
    So true, My first tour of duty in Germany started in 1974. My last year there was 2001 (11.5 years there). The differences even I saw as an outsider was striking. I don’t look forward (god I’m starting to hate that word)to what’s in store for us.

    Macker, Happy Birthday!


  395. Tanker
    396 | November 7, 2012 7:16 am

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Somehow the 47% turned into 51% without us seeing it!


  396. rain of lead
    397 | November 7, 2012 7:19 am

    @ Urban Infidel:

    the gimme free shit group seems to outnumber the freedom group

    oh btw
    the 2.something trillion $ debt limit is about to expire


  397. 398 | November 7, 2012 7:24 am

    1389AD wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    @ 1389AD:
    ADDENDUM
    Oh, as as to your suggestion that I would even consider revoking my US citizenship, here’s a hearfelt “Eff you!” to you and the horse you rode in on.
    Of course you won’t revoke it. It’s the basis of your snotty self-righteousness to maintain “citizenship” in a country that you can’t make a living in, and in which your vote and your voice no longer counts for anything, and that has completely abandoned all the principles it was founded on.
    You aren’t a citizen, you’re a subject. Face it.

    And you’re an ass and a self-professed coward. FYI, I spent the previous 4 contract years working in Houston, which, last I heard, was still considered by many to be part of the US.

    Like I said earlier, enjoy Russia. Last time you named names, I believe that was your “bastion of freedom” of choice.

    “Rather, proclaim it, Warwick, throughout my host.
    He that hath no stomach for this fight,
    let hime depart.
    His passport shall be made, and crowns for convoy put into his purse.
    We would not die in that man’s presence, who fears his fellowship to die with us.”


  398. Tanker
    399 | November 7, 2012 7:33 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Mike, you can’t force anyone to fight and when you do they tend to shoot you in the back when you aren’t looking. Let them go! They tend to be more trouble than help!


  399. 400 | November 7, 2012 7:36 am

    @ Tanker:
    @ rain of lead:
    Atlas’s post sums up my feelings.


  400. African Moondog
    401 | November 7, 2012 7:37 am

    Tanker wrote:

    We now know that all the pundits saying the polls can’t be right were full of shit. Michael Barone was so far off the mark with his forecast, he too has shown himself useless.

    I wrote here sometime ago that I suspected that the golf courses near DC will continue to be used an awful lot in the next four years. I predicted that Romney would win the popular vote but the golfer in chief would take the EVs. Not all the votes are counted so that prediction may still come true.

    The reason why I came to this conclusion was based on a book by Hamilton Jordan on the last year of the Carter administration. As Carter’s campaign manager Jordan stated that in his opinion:

    The campaign that disses the polls as being technically flawed is the campaign that is behind. The polls are usually accurate.

    The size and the enthusiasm of the crowds have no bearing on the eventual result. Losing campaigns usually draw the biggest and most enthusiastic crowds as with McGovern in ’72, Carter in ’80, Mondale in ’84 etc.

    What with this and NTheat2U this is an extremely depressing time. I suppose Tingles and Chuckles have had an orgasmic dose of schadenfreude :(


  401. Tanker
    402 | November 7, 2012 7:38 am

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Ditto

    Truly a black day!


  402. SciFiGuy
    403 | November 7, 2012 7:52 am

    I went to bed middle class. I wake up a wealthy man. At least according to the administrations figures. Prepare for the taxes.

    BOHICA!!


  403. 404 | November 7, 2012 7:52 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    And you’re an ass and a self-professed coward.

    If you say that about me then you know nothing about me. Leaving a place doesn’t make anybody a coward. Where did your ancestors come from? Were they cowards?

    Go back to your own blog, such as it is.


  404. African Moondog
    405 | November 7, 2012 7:57 am

    James Carville on CNN reckons that the Tea Party cost the Repubs 4 or 5 Senate seats. I don’t know about that but we must accept that Carville knows his politics. I am gutted about Scott Brown and West. However Mourdock and Akins deserved their defeats. Carville also opinion-ed that Romney was undone by two factors, one of which, Sandy, was beyond his control. The other was the calamitous collapse in Republican support from Hispanic voters.

    In’04 Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote which enabled him to carry NV, NM, Florida and CO. He still just managed to eke a narrow win over Kerry. This year Romney received a fraction of that number and this is the result.


  405. 406 | November 7, 2012 7:57 am

    @ SciFiGuy:

    Taxes go up for everybody in January. It will make a substantial difference. And sequestration is coming. Obama is going to gut the military, and there’s not a damned thing the Republicans can do to stop it. We should have made a bigger issue of what a big failure Obama has been. Everybody was afraid to directly attack him for fear of being called a RAAAAACIST. Guess what? They called us racists anyway. I don’t know that more negative ads would have helped, but in the final analysis they couldn’t have hurt. We need to get mean. Nice guys finish last. Obama didn’t have a problem insinuating that Romney klilled a woman, after all. POinting out that Obama killed our Ambassador through his neglect of the situation seems only, well, truthful.


  406. 407 | November 7, 2012 8:02 am

    @ 1389AD:

    Go back to your own blog, such as it is.

    ONly if you go back to yours first, dear.


  407. Tanker
    408 | November 7, 2012 8:04 am

    West Lost? Done in by the Republicans in Florida. They can’t handle the truth keeps ringing in my ears!:cry:


  408. 409 | November 7, 2012 8:06 am

    Tanker wrote:

    West Lost? Done in by the Republicans in Florida. They can’t handle the truth keeps ringing in my ears!:cry:

    Last night proved that there are a lot of people who can’t handle the truth. Gawd, I’m just sick at heart.


  409. 410 | November 7, 2012 8:11 am

    @ Tanker:

    This is a disaster. There is no putting a pretty face on it. I don’t think we can come back from another four years like the last four. And Obama is just getting started. Remember, he’ll have more flexibility now. He is going to rule like a king, and there is NOTHING that the Republicans can do about it.


  410. eaglesoars
    411 | November 7, 2012 8:13 am

    Tanker wrote:

    West Lost?

    So did Mia Love.


  411. 412 | November 7, 2012 8:16 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Both to vote margins that raise the question of voter fraud. Not theat the Democrats would ever engage in voter fraud… :roll:


  412. 413 | November 7, 2012 8:17 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Go back to your own blog, such as it is.
    ONly if you go back to yours first, dear.

    This is not your blog. I did not come here to trash you. Until you started badmouthing me last night I held my tongue about you.

    And you will refrain from calling me “dear.”


  413. bluliner10
    414 | November 7, 2012 8:19 am

    Just disgusted. Period.


  414. eaglesoars
    415 | November 7, 2012 8:20 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    Both to vote margins that raise the question of voter fraud. Not theat the Democrats would ever engage in voter fraud…

    I can think of one good thing to maybe come of this if the Rs have the stomach for it.

    Impeach the fucker. Benghazi.


  415. Tanker
    416 | November 7, 2012 8:20 am

    Grayson wins…West lost

    Florida has officially become a southern Northeast State.

    Had really high hopes for Mia Love!


  416. 417 | November 7, 2012 8:21 am

    Good Lord, 7,971 people in Florida alone voted for Roseanne Barr.


  417. African Moondog
    418 | November 7, 2012 8:21 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    POinting out that Obama killed our Ambassador through his neglect of the situation seems only, well, truthful.

    It is also going to haunt Obama in the next four years. He will be only too happy to leave the WH. Second Terms have been more difficult than first terms and on this issue the message will quickly be “Congratulations Mr. President. Now, about Benghazi, you’ve got some ‘spaining to do.”


  418. 419 | November 7, 2012 8:23 am

    Reality raises its ugly head:

    (CNSNews.com) – The U.S. Treasury quietly warned at the end of a statement issued last Wednesday that it expects the federal government to hit its legal debt limit before the end of this year–which means before the new Congress is seated–and that “extraordinary measures” will be needed before then to keep the government fully funded into the early part of 2013.

    No telling what the Mad Duck congress will do with this. If we hadn’t retained the House, last night would have been a worse disaster than it was, though it is bad enough to destroy the country. I don’t guess it’d have made much of a difference if the Donks had won the house last night. Obama weill rule by Executive Order, and there is nothing we can do about that with only one house of the Congress.


  419. Prebanned
    420 | November 7, 2012 8:24 am

    I am wondering if I am wasting my time volunteering at the food bank feeding the 51%.
    Because every two years they vote themselves more of my money.


  420. Tanker
    421 | November 7, 2012 8:25 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    POinting out that Obama killed our Ambassador through his neglect of the situation seems only, well, truthful.
    It is also going to haunt Obama in the next four years. He will be only too happy to leave the WH. Second Terms have been more difficult than first terms and on this issue the message will quickly be “Congratulations Mr. President. Now, about Benghazi, you’ve got some ‘spaining to do.”

    Who will ask the questions? Even Fox is weak on this front. The press doesn’t give a shit, so I don’t see it as being an issue for him.

    The real level of how bad this will be is when the SCOTUS is lost for the next twenty years!


  421. 422 | November 7, 2012 8:25 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Can;t impeach him. There is absolutley no way the Democrat Senate will convict, no matter what evidence you present. That is a given. The Republicans should have lined up behind Nixon. There is nothing to be said for having too many morals. Our enemies use that to defeat us.


  422. rain of lead
    423 | November 7, 2012 8:27 am

    @ African Moondog:

    errrr
    benghazi….
    just some right wing rethuglican made up story
    nothing to see here

    msm


  423. 424 | November 7, 2012 8:28 am

    1389AD wrote:

    This is not your blog. I did not come here to trash you. Until you started badmouthing me last night I held my tongue about you.

    In all fairness, you seem to have come here to trash this entire country and share your fantasies/plans about leaving. You’re much like the liberals who were “going to move” in ’00 and ’04 in that respect.

    People here have suffered an enormous loss because we love our country – trashing her at this moment is extremely bad form and, quite frankly, infuriating.


  424. Storagemanager
    425 | November 7, 2012 8:28 am

    Obama will bankrupt America…then go on the air and tell America we have to start over…and then tear up the constitution R.I .P. America.


  425. waldensianspirit
    426 | November 7, 2012 8:29 am

    Ok, coldwarrior, I’m here. Bring out the ferb and the outsider


  426. rain of lead
    427 | November 7, 2012 8:29 am

    R’s in the house ain’t gonna say shit
    ain’t gonna do shit


  427. 428 | November 7, 2012 8:30 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Just as des robed on atlas shrugged….evil will use your own good, generous nature against you.

    We’re doomed.


  428. eaglesoars
    429 | November 7, 2012 8:30 am

    back to bed. long nite.


  429. waldensianspirit
    430 | November 7, 2012 8:31 am

    1389AD wrote:

    Go back to your own blog, such as it is.

    Don’t be telling Mike C. to leave


  430. 431 | November 7, 2012 8:31 am

    Tanker wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Mike, you can’t force anyone to fight and when you do they tend to shoot you in the back when you aren’t looking. Let them go! They tend to be more trouble than help!

    Here again, for a civilian to leave a place doesn’t make him or her a coward. I’m not deserting from the military, and would never advocate anybody doing so (or breaking any other laws for that matter). I wouldn’t think of libeling your ancestors as cowards for having left wherever they were to come to what was then the land of opportunity.


  431. waldensianspirit
    432 | November 7, 2012 8:33 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    R’s in the house ain’t gonna say shit
    ain’t gonna do shit

    They will be bought and some quite cheaply


  432. 433 | November 7, 2012 8:33 am

    @ MacDuff:
    Our country no longer loves us or anything that we stand for, and probably never will.

    It is indeed a tremendous loss.


  433. 434 | November 7, 2012 8:34 am

    @ Kirly:

    Yes, we are Doomed™. There is no doubt of that. Four more years of Obama means we’ll be $21 trillion in debt by the end of it. At least. Obama may crank up the spending just because he ca, now. He doesn’t care about anything but destroying this country. He is spending us to death.


  434. Tanker
    435 | November 7, 2012 8:35 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    R’s in the house ain’t gonna say shit
    ain’t gonna do shit

    They (R’s) are already talking about having to work with the other side…spit!!!

    Until the R’s understand that politics is war and all weapons available are to be used to their fullest….we will lose!


  435. waldensianspirit
    436 | November 7, 2012 8:35 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Yes, we are Doomed™. There is no doubt of that. Four more years of Obama means we’ll be $21 trillion in debt by the end of it. At least. Obama may crank up the spending just because he ca, now. He doesn’t care about anything but destroying this country. He is spending us to death.

    Yep he’ll go beyond the 21 easily


  436. 437 | November 7, 2012 8:35 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    I’m off to the gym. I need to run.


  437. Storagemanager
    438 | November 7, 2012 8:36 am

    The greatest country on earth…killed from inside….


  438. waldensianspirit
    439 | November 7, 2012 8:36 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    The greatest country on earth…killed from inside….

    Biblical


  439. Storagemanager
    440 | November 7, 2012 8:38 am

    November 6, 2012 is the day America changed.
    8 to 9 percent unemployment is the new normal. It’s good enough. 46 million people on food stamps is OK. It shows we care. Debt spending is good. It will get paid off some day and if not, our kids can worry about it. Trillion dollar deficits make sense.

    Socialized medicine is good. It will cost more, but did you honestly believe it wouldn’t? It doesn’t matter what you were told. Catholics should pay for abortions. Sandra Fluke is a prophet. Abortions and birth control should be free. We should fund abortions overseas, too.

    The First Lady should be allowed to blow millions on lavish vacations. The White House parties should cost millions, too. The president should play as much golf and basketball as he pleases. They deserve it. They work hard. They’re Democrats.

    Greedy Americans should pay more taxes and millions of Americans who pay no taxes should receive more free money. It’s only fair. Businesses can afford to pay more taxes too. That’s what they teach you in school, right? We all know the Bush tax cuts that brought the deficit from $450 billion to $175 billion in four years and created millions of jobs didn’t work. Obama said so. And did you know Obama created 5 million jobs? Who cares how he came up with that number. In September he even created 600,000 part-time jobs somewhere. And, don’t you dare question his math.

    Benghazi was a protest, or a terrorist attack. Obama said so from the beginning. Who cares anyway. Things like that happen all the time. And the media never covered anything up to help the president either. Right, 60 Minutes?

    Al-Qaeda is dead or on the run.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/


  440. bluliner10
    441 | November 7, 2012 8:39 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    This is not your blog. I did not come here to trash you. Until you started badmouthing me last night I held my tongue about you.
    In all fairness, you seem to have come here to trash this entire country and share your fantasies/plans about leaving. You’re much like the liberals who were “going to move” in ’00 and ’04 in that respect.
    People here have suffered an enormous loss because we love our country — trashing her at this moment is extremely bad form and, quite frankly, infuriating.

    Mac, at this point I do not know who I stand for. I follow a flag, designed to represent the greatest nation on earth. But half of that nation just voted to be enslaved to a government rather than for liberty and opportunity. We can all bitch about the outcome of the election, the “stain” left by Bush, the failed opportunities to put a spotlight on the failed policies and actions of the current administration and the bleak future my nation faces. But none of that matters. Half the nation chose “I am getting mine yours”.


  441. rain of lead
    442 | November 7, 2012 8:40 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:

    R’s in the house ain’t gonna say shit
    ain’t gonna do shit

    They will be bought and some quite cheaply

    not a matter of being bought
    they just got waxed in a national election
    the leadership and mostof the repub congressmen
    are a pack of feckless cowards
    and will now go 100% “go along to get along”


  442. bluliner10
    443 | November 7, 2012 8:40 am

    I didn’t hit bold. Sorry.


  443. Tanker
    444 | November 7, 2012 8:42 am

    1389AD wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    @ Mike C.:
    Mike, you can’t force anyone to fight and when you do they tend to shoot you in the back when you aren’t looking. Let them go! They tend to be more trouble than help!

    Here again, for a civilian to leave a place doesn’t make him or her a coward. I’m not deserting from the military, and would never advocate anybody doing so (or breaking any other laws for that matter). I wouldn’t think of libeling your ancestors as cowards for having left wherever they were to come to what was then the land of opportunity.

    I never said you should leave….You said you were leaving! Go or stay..makes no difference to me! As far as cowards goes…you are only a coward when you quit but still have means to fight! If your means/will to fight is gone, the do as you want. I have means and the will still burning in me!


  444. ferb123
    445 | November 7, 2012 8:42 am

    Hello,

    no november surprise. Obama won as expected, so no ferb-spanking today please :mrgreen:


  445. waldensianspirit
    446 | November 7, 2012 8:43 am

    @ ferb123:
    Hi ferb, yes your man won


  446. 447 | November 7, 2012 8:44 am

    @ Storagemanager:
    All great nations typically fall from within. Rarely are they destroyed by outside forces.


  447. 448 | November 7, 2012 8:45 am

    bluliner10 wrote:

    Mac, at this point I do not know who I stand for. I follow a flag, designed to represent the greatest nation on earth. But half of that nation just voted to be enslaved to a government rather than for liberty and opportunity. We can all bitch about the outcome of the election, the “stain” left by Bush, the failed opportunities to put a spotlight on the failed policies and actions of the current administration and the bleak future my nation faces. But none of that matters. Half the nation chose “I am getting mine yours”.

    We should stand for defending the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.


  448. Storagemanager
    449 | November 7, 2012 8:45 am

    The Muslim brotherhood are very happy…


  449. waldensianspirit
    450 | November 7, 2012 8:46 am

    Now comes accountability. I had planned to hold Romney’s feet to the fire to get the economy going and make a fiscally sound government with a solid currency


  450. Storagemanager
    451 | November 7, 2012 8:48 am

    Those of you who voted for the ONE…enjoy your new war…

    A Turkish official says Turkey and its allies, including the United States, have discussed the possibility of using Patriot missiles to protect a zone inside war-torn Syria.

    The Foreign Ministry official said Wednesday that the missiles are one of a number of scenarios being considered as a way to stop regime attacks on the Syrian opposition and civilians. (AP)
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-4302402,00.html


  451. rain of lead
    452 | November 7, 2012 8:49 am

    @ ferb123:

    just curious
    how does a weaker america help germany?


  452. rain of lead
    453 | November 7, 2012 8:50 am

    but,but,but
    I don’t want to live in interesting times


  453. Storagemanager
    454 | November 7, 2012 8:52 am

    Ottoman rising….enjoy

    President Abdullah Gül sent a letter to his US counterpart, Barack Obama, on Wednesday, congratulating him on his election victory.

    President Obama won a second term in the White House on Tuesday in a clear victory over his Republican challenger Mitt Romney. Obama beat Romney after nabbing almost every one of the 12 crucial battleground states.

    “We are determined to preserve our model partnership and the positive atmosphere of our multidimensional relations. I am glad to reaffirm that we share a common vision to boost our relations further especially in economy and trade,” Gül said in his letter.

    Addressing Obama as “Mr. President and my dear friend,” Gül praised Obama’s efforts, saying he had done a great job while the US and the world were tested by the economic crisis. “I am very sure that the leadership that you have introduced by ensuring economic growth, generating new employment and providing the future generation with a better future during your presidential term will be appreciated.”

    In his letter, Gül underlined the regional and global importance of the relations between the two countries, saying that Turkish-US ties would make invaluable contributions to peace, stability and security in many parts of the world, including the Balkans, Central Asia, North Africa, the Caucasus and South Asia.

    “I am pleased to note that Turkey shares the same vision as the US in terms of strengthening bilateral relations, especially in the area of economy and trade,” Gül said, adding that Ankara was committed to maintaining and securing the multidimensional model of US-Turkey relations in all areas
    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-297423-.html


  454. ferb123
    455 | November 7, 2012 8:53 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ ferb123:
    just curious
    how does a weaker america help germany?

    please explain what you mean by “weaker america”


  455. Storagemanager
    456 | November 7, 2012 8:53 am

    Thank to President Obama…this will be a SUNNI nation.


  456. 457 | November 7, 2012 8:54 am

    @ Tanker:
    I don’t have any means to fight other than the blog, and I can do that from somewhere else if need be. I cannot make a living here despite being employed as far as the official stats are concerned. I’m just not making enough money to starve on and my husband is seriously ill.

    The taxes of every US citizen – wherever in the world we happen to be working – have been and will be used to support the socialist/pro-Muslim Obama regime and all that it stands for. In other words, the taxes that we’ve been paying have helped to support the Muslim Brotherhood takeover of the Middle East, as well as Obamacare and taxpayer subsidies for Planned Parenthood. Those who try to protest by not paying their taxes will find the IRS making an example of them and collecting the money anyway.


  457. 458 | November 7, 2012 8:55 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    but,but,but
    I don’t want to live in interesting times

    More like sickening times.


  458. Storagemanager
    459 | November 7, 2012 8:57 am

    Tingles On Obama’s Win: “I’m So Glad We Had That Storm Last Week” That Killed 110 People… http://weaselzippers.us/


  459. 460 | November 7, 2012 8:57 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    Thank to President Obama…this will be a SUNNI nation.

    Alas, it’s mourning in America……..


  460. 461 | November 7, 2012 8:57 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Storagemanager:
    All great nations typically fall from within. Rarely are they destroyed by outside forces.

    They generally don’t come back within the lifetimes of those who were around when they fell.


  461. Storagemanager
    462 | November 7, 2012 9:01 am

    Four brave American’s are dead…and their President wants to forget them….yes…ferb…..enjoy the win.


  462. bluliner10
    463 | November 7, 2012 9:01 am

    @ MacDuff:
    The problem is the enemy is us. Republicans did not lose last night, the USA lost last night. Without a USA, the world lost. The storm clouds are there, and we scheduled a barbeque.


  463. Prebanned
    464 | November 7, 2012 9:03 am

    I don’t think we are going to fall.
    Then again I have a lot to learn about my fellow Americans.
    I guess keeping your mouth shut and voting for free stuff is the new normal.


  464. 465 | November 7, 2012 9:07 am

    bluliner10 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    The problem is the enemy is us. Republicans did not lose last night, the USA lost last night. Without a USA, the world lost. The storm clouds are there, and we scheduled a barbeque.

    This is definitely the gravest domestic threat since the Civil War and I sense great upheaval in our future. Yes, we all lost last night, and the people who think they won will, in the end, be the biggest losers of all.

    “…..what fools these mortals be.”


  465. Storagemanager
    466 | November 7, 2012 9:07 am

    No….the new normal.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


  466. Storagemanager
    467 | November 7, 2012 9:09 am

    The people that voted for Obama…..have no idea what they just did…but…they will…they will.


  467. Storagemanager
    468 | November 7, 2012 9:11 am

    The American people — or, at the very least, a sufficient plurality of them — decided that they want another four years of clumsy policy failures and vengeful “progressivism,” as Democrats nowadays describe their agenda for wrecking what remains of our constitutional republic. Even before the unmitigated political disaster of November 6, 2012, a date that will live in infamy, the prospects of salvaging the United States were not particularly hopeful. Now, however, we are permanently and irretrievably screwed. http://spectator.org/archives/2012/11/07/doomed-beyond-all-hope-of-rede


  468. 469 | November 7, 2012 9:12 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    The people that voted for Obama…..have no idea what they just did…but…they will…they will.

    They’re textbook examples of “Battered Wife Syndrome” and they just decided to renew their vows.


  469. Tanker
    470 | November 7, 2012 9:13 am

    1389AD wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    I don’t have any means to fight other than the blog, and I can do that from somewhere else if need be. I cannot make a living here despite being employed as far as the official stats are concerned. I’m just not making enough money to starve on and my husband is seriously ill.
    The taxes of every US citizen — wherever in the world we happen to be working — have been and will be used to support the socialist/pro-Muslim Obama regime and all that it stands for. In other words, the taxes that we’ve been paying have helped to support the Muslim Brotherhood takeover of the Middle East, as well as Obamacare and taxpayer subsidies for Planned Parenthood. Those who try to protest by not paying their taxes will find the IRS making an example of them and collecting the money anyway.

    If you don’t have the means to live/eat, how are you going to start over some places else?


  470. Speranza
    471 | November 7, 2012 9:14 am

    I am so disappointed in my country (at least 1/2 the country).


  471. bluliner10
    472 | November 7, 2012 9:17 am

    @ MacDuff:
    If it wasn’t such a dire forecast I would offer you kudos for the wisdom of your words.


  472. Speranza
    473 | November 7, 2012 9:19 am

    I feel the dark shadows of the coming times.


  473. bluliner10
    474 | November 7, 2012 9:22 am

    Forewarned America, forewarned.


  474. theoutsider
    475 | November 7, 2012 9:22 am

    You guys have got to stop nominating the Akin, Mourdock, O’Donnell, Angle, Buck, Miller crowd. Once you stop doing that, then you can criticize the rest of the electorate for their votes.


  475. Storagemanager
    476 | November 7, 2012 9:24 am

    The new America… heroes die and are forgotten…the man that leaves them hailed a hero and a given rewards.


  476. Storagemanager
    477 | November 7, 2012 9:25 am

    @ theoutsider:
    I would say go to hell…..but..we are already there…enjoy it.


  477. bluliner10
    478 | November 7, 2012 9:27 am

    @ theoutsider:
    Nope, absolutely wrong, Democrats run criminals and you pathetically vote for them. Good to go!


  478. 479 | November 7, 2012 9:27 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    You guys have got to stop nominating the Akin, Mourdock, O’Donnell, Angle, Buck, Miller crowd. Once you stop doing that, then you can criticize the rest of the electorate for their votes.

    We can criticize any goddammed thing we please, thank you. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to ignoring your bootlicking ass.


  479. rain of lead
    480 | November 7, 2012 9:28 am

    @ theoutsider:

    ya know
    that is the first thing you have said that I agree with
    we do need better candidates


  480. 481 | November 7, 2012 9:29 am

    Tanker wrote:

    If you don’t have the means to live/eat, how are you going to start over some places else?

    1389AD gives off a distinct odor of bullshit.


  481. rain of lead
    482 | November 7, 2012 9:30 am

    @ rain of lead:

    but alas
    that ship has sailed
    once you start sliding off the moutain
    it’s just too hard to stop


  482. Storagemanager
    483 | November 7, 2012 9:31 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ theoutsider:
    ya know
    that is the first thing you have said that I agree with
    we do need better candidates

    We are to become Rome….only one man will matter from now on.


  483. 484 | November 7, 2012 9:31 am

    The Stock-market promptly endorses Obama by dropping 100 points in the first 30 seconds…


  484. Brick
    485 | November 7, 2012 9:32 am

    I take it everyone else feels as though they’ve been somehow transported to Wonderland this morning?


  485. bluliner10
    486 | November 7, 2012 9:34 am

    Brick wrote:

    I take it everyone else feels as though they’ve been somehow transported to Wonderland Blunderland this morning?

    Yep


  486. theoutsider
    487 | November 7, 2012 9:34 am

    @ rain of lead:
    Thank You. Run sane candidates. You’ll win most of the time.


  487. 488 | November 7, 2012 9:35 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    If you don’t have the means to live/eat, how are you going to start over some places else?
    1389AD gives off a distinct odor of bullshit.

    Watch your filthy mouth.

    Suffice it to say that I have some skills that can be put to use anywhere else where there is still a functioning economy.


  488. 489 | November 7, 2012 9:36 am

    Down 200 points now…


  489. rain of lead
    490 | November 7, 2012 9:37 am

    @ doriangrey:

    morning dorian
    how are you doing

    it sucked this morning trying to buck up my girl this morning
    Obamas win left her broken hearted and tearful


  490. Storagemanager
    491 | November 7, 2012 9:37 am

    day in history ..

    7 November 1917

    In Russia, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin and Leon Trotsky (picture) oust Kerensky and take over the government.


  491. rain of lead
    492 | November 7, 2012 9:38 am

    @ doriangrey:

    wheeeee
    this is gonna be funnnnn……

    or not


  492. Storagemanager
    493 | November 7, 2012 9:39 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Obama will bankrupt America…then go on the air and tell America we have to start over…and then tear up the constitution R.I .P. America.

    Obama will bankrupt America…then go on the air and tell America we have to start over…and then tear up the constitution R.I .P. America.


  493. Storagemanager
    494 | November 7, 2012 9:40 am

    I messed up the last post…sorry


  494. 495 | November 7, 2012 9:40 am

    1389AD wrote:

    Watch your filthy mouth.

    Suffice it to say that I have some skills that can be put to use anywhere else where there is still a functioning economy.

    Filthy mouth? You should see what I edited out!

    Be sure it’s a place that welcomes aggrieved whiners, that seems to be your primary talent. Can I help you pack? Buh bye.


  495. Brick
    496 | November 7, 2012 9:43 am

    I feel like it’s every man for himself at this point.

    Trying to logically think this through, is there even any point in conducting analysis of how we got here, who’s to blame, etc. other than for historical posterity?

    Unless I’m missing something fundamental, the body politic spoke pretty clearly yesterday that the majority those within our borders prefers free stuff over freedom and that is a mindset I simply cannot understand.

    It seems the free shit army has overrun our positions.


  496. Storagemanager
    497 | November 7, 2012 9:43 am

    Al Arabiya very happy Obama won http://english.alarabiya.net/


  497. 498 | November 7, 2012 9:44 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    I messed up the last post…sorry

    It’s ok, I understood it.


  498. Storagemanager
    499 | November 7, 2012 9:46 am

    Here is the update received via an inside source from the Obama Campaign’s Chicago offices:

    “A rep from Jarrett office was in today. She gave us a finish line pep talk and then afterwards, heard her saying how Jarrett is very excited about a 2nd term agenda and a big part of that agenda is to punish everyone who opposed them during the first term and the campaign. Strange that everything was ‘Ms. Jarrett wants this, and Ms. Jarrett is looking forward to that.’ You hardly heard Obama’s name mentioned by her which I guess reinforces what people are saying.

    “Valerie Jarrett really is the power in the White House. I know that when her representative showed up it was like royalty was visiting. All the big dogs were lined up to meet her and acting real friendly and they gave us a heads up an hour before and told us we better ‘put on a good show’ while she was here.

    “The part that really stuck out to me was when I overheard the rep say that Jarrett told them, ‘After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.’ She was talking directly to about three of them. Sr. staff. And she wasn’t trying to be quiet about it at all. And they were all listening and shaking their heads and smiling while she said it. Pretty creepy.

    READ FULL SOURCE ARTICLE http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/7398


  499. 500 | November 7, 2012 9:47 am

    The Fed (i.e. the plungers) are pumping cash into the market like there is no tomorrow trying to stem the collapse, I doubt it’s going to work since the more cash the pump in, the less each dollar is worth.


  500. bluliner10
    501 | November 7, 2012 9:49 am

    @ Brick:
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
    de Toqueville


  501. 502 | November 7, 2012 9:52 am

    Brick wrote:

    I feel like it’s every man for himself at this point.

    Trying to logically think this through, is there even any point in conducting analysis of how we got here, who’s to blame, etc. other than for historical posterity?

    Unless I’m missing something fundamental, the body politic spoke pretty clearly yesterday that the majority those within our borders prefers free stuff over freedom and that is a mindset I simply cannot understand.

    It seems the free shit army has overrun our positions.

    Obama has succeeded in cementing our differences; Lincoln saved our Union, Obama is destroying it.


  502. 503 | November 7, 2012 9:53 am

    bluliner10 wrote:

    @ Brick:
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
    de Toqueville

    And that is what happened last night, De Tocqueville’s warning became a reality.


  503. Storagemanager
    504 | November 7, 2012 9:54 am

    Revenge begins now.


  504. 505 | November 7, 2012 9:58 am

    bluliner10 wrote:

    @ Brick:
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
    de Toqueville

    “Some are more equal than others”

    George Orwell, Animal Farm

    The real tragedy is that we’ve seen this coming for a century, they gave us their playbook and people like de Toqueville and Orwell gave us detailed warnings.


  505. John Difool
    507 | November 7, 2012 10:06 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Socialism/communism assures one thing and one thing only.

    The equal sharing of misery.


  506. 508 | November 7, 2012 10:10 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    Revenge begins now.

    I don’t see how that’s possible within our lifetimes. After all, we are not going to take up arms and massacre everybody who voted for Obama. That’s not how we roll. We’ve lost any input into public opinion and even the GOP won’t listen to us.


  507. John Difool
    509 | November 7, 2012 10:10 am

    Gas already up 7 to 8 cents a gallon since yesterday in my area.

    Enjoy your re-elected president & new Senate members, America, you totally deserve them.


  508. EBL
    510 | November 7, 2012 10:11 am

    Welcome to the New American Century: Venezuelan style!


  509. 511 | November 7, 2012 10:11 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.


  510. Speranza
    512 | November 7, 2012 10:12 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    You guys have got to stop nominating the Akin, Mourdock, O’Donnell, Angle, Buck, Miller crowd.

    Believe it or not I actually agree. GOP candidates for Senate need to handle those rape/abortion “gotcha” questions with a simple “My personal beliefs are my own. Next question!”.


  511. 513 | November 7, 2012 10:13 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.

    Yup, we’re pretty much doomed.


  512. Speranza
    514 | November 7, 2012 10:13 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ theoutsider:
    ya know
    that is the first thing you have said that I agree with
    we do need better candidates

    We need to have runoff primaries so these Sharron Angle, Todd Akin types do not sneak in with 34% of the vote.


  513. 515 | November 7, 2012 10:16 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.

    We’re definitely two Americas with only our common defense holding us together; now that Obama has been reelected, even that is looking pretty tenuous.


  514. John Difool
    516 | November 7, 2012 10:17 am

    @ Speranza:

    You guys left out Allen. Yea, I voted for him but he’s part of problem, not the solution.

    One of the beltway RINO good ol’ boys who helped spend us into oblivion under Bush & never let a small sliver of pork sneak by him.


  515. Tanker
    517 | November 7, 2012 10:18 am

    1389AD wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:
    Tanker wrote:
    If you don’t have the means to live/eat, how are you going to start over some places else?
    1389AD gives off a distinct odor of bullshit.

    Watch your filthy mouth.
    Suffice it to say that I have some skills that can be put to use anywhere else where there is still a functioning economy.

    Education…Skills are all fine and dandy!
    It’s like I tell my grown kids! If they aren’t feeding you then another COA is needed! Just don’t whine about it to me.
    Leave…Stay, just let it go!

    For me and mine we will fight for this nation until the end!


  516. 518 | November 7, 2012 10:19 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.

    The Fed is desperately attempting to keep the Dow above 13,000, and it doesn’t look like it’s working. I suspect once it drops below 13,000 it will go into free fall.


  517. BuddyG
    519 | November 7, 2012 10:19 am

    Two Americas, not on speaking terms

    /Michael Barone

    Excerpts:

    One America tends to be traditionally religious, personally charitable, appreciative of entrepreneurs and suspicious of government. The other tends to be secular or only mildly religious, less charitable on average, skeptical of business and supportive of government as an instrument to advance liberal causes.
    . . .
    As a result, there are going to be many Americans profoundly unhappy with the result of this election
    . . .
    Now the Two Americas disagree, sharply. Government decisions enthuse one and enrage the other. The election may be over, but the Two Americas are still not on speaking terms”


  518. Brick
    520 | November 7, 2012 10:20 am

    bluliner10 wrote:

    @ Brick:
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
    de Toqueville

    I’m a simple guy. Equal opportunity vs. equal outcome.


  519. 521 | November 7, 2012 10:20 am

    Speranza wrote:

    We need to have runoff primaries so these Sharron Angle, Todd Akin types do not sneak in with 34% of the vote.

    Yeah, when people are “primaried out” the candidate that’s “primaried in” should be someone who can friggin’ win. Most of the time, even an unreliable RINO is better than a damned Democrat.


  520. Speranza
    522 | November 7, 2012 10:21 am

    @ John Difool:

    Good grief he (George Allen) lost too!
    I wanted him to win because I wanted to fire Harry Reid.
    And what’s with Massachusetts – they elect Scott Brown in 2010 and he is a “moderate Republican” and they dump him for a liar named Elizabeth Warren???

    All three candidates I contributed to lost – Mitt Romney,Scott Brown and Mia Love!


  521. heysoos
    523 | November 7, 2012 10:21 am

    the biggest winner in this election, by far. is the MSM….they are finally entrenched in the loop and are calling the shots…chew on that


  522. John Difool
    524 | November 7, 2012 10:23 am

    @ 1389AD:

    1389, sorry about being shitty towards you last night, but last night was pretty bad for a lot of us for obvious reasons.

    Just realize this. America is the shining light of liberty & freedom and the last best hope of the world & when that light is extinguished there will be no where to run, nowhere to hide where the darkness will not find you.

    It’s not time to give up. Now more than ever it’s time to double-down & fight ever harder. I implore you to not give up on America . If you do realize this…..

    You’ve given up on the world.


  523. Speranza
    525 | November 7, 2012 10:23 am

    @ heysoos:
    America has lost.
    The GOP House should go into pure opposition.


  524. 526 | November 7, 2012 10:24 am

    And there it goes…

    DJIA $DJI
    12,997.10
    -248.58
    (-1.88%)

    NASDAQ $COMP
    2,954.42
    -57.51
    (-1.91%)

    S&P 500 $SPX
    1,400.75
    -27.64
    (-1.94%)

    NYSE $NYA
    8,161.63
    -150.7232
    (-1.81%


  525. John Difool
    527 | November 7, 2012 10:25 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Flyovercountry wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.

    The Fed is desperately attempting to keep the Dow above 13,000, and it doesn’t look like it’s working. I suspect once it drops below 13,000 it will go into free fall.

    Dollar is in a free-fall right now. The markets really don’t like what just happened.


  526. Speranza
    528 | November 7, 2012 10:25 am

    @ John Difool:
    Hopefully American resilience will overcome the abortion of a President it just re-elected.


  527. 529 | November 7, 2012 10:25 am

    @ doriangrey:

    People with skin in the game are definitely not happy with being told by those without that they are the enemy, and to just fork it all over without a peep.

    For a couple of years now, the run up of equity prices was more a measure of the loos of value in the dollar relative to tangible things like food and clothing. Equities are still the best place for your money right now, but that’s because in that endeavor your are investing in something that’s real, companies that produce food and clothing.


  528. Speranza
    530 | November 7, 2012 10:27 am

    I wonder which percentage of the 23 million unemployed/underemployed/people who just gave up looking for jobs – voted for Obama?


  529. 531 | November 7, 2012 10:27 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.

    I’m a secessionist myself, and freely acknowledge it, in person as well as on our own blog. The federal government has become a centralized tyranny of the majority, and the rest of us no longer have any rights. It would be better to salvage some subset of the States under a limited federal government that abides by the Constitution, than to lose everything, that being the track we are on now. I see no other way of breaking that tyranny of the majority.

    *putting prediction hat on*

    I can see some likelihood of new regional countries forming themselves after the coming economic and financial collapse. You could call that secession by default, much like what happened in the former Soviet Union. Some level of violence is extremely probable, but not inevitable.

    You can’t run up this amount of debt and keep the system going. Not gonna happen.

    Here again, this is a PREDICTION. It is not what I WANT to happen. I would rather see a peaceful breakup via Constitutional amendment, as happened in the former Czechoslovakia.


  530. 532 | November 7, 2012 10:28 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    People with skin in the game are definitely not happy with being told by those without that they are the enemy, and to just fork it all over without a peep.
    For a couple of years now, the run up of equity prices was more a measure of the loos of value in the dollar relative to tangible things like food and clothing. Equities are still the best place for your money right now, but that’s because in that endeavor your are investing in something that’s real, companies that produce food and clothing.

    And that will only remain the case until Obama or is successor nationalize all industry to pay off their debts.


  531. Speranza
    533 | November 7, 2012 10:29 am

    John Difool wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    1389, sorry about being shitty towards you last night, but last night was pretty bad for a lot of us for obvious reasons.
    Just realize this. America is the shining light of liberty & freedom and the last best hope of the world & when that light is extinguished there will be no where to run, nowhere to hide where the darkness will not find you.
    It’s not time to give up. Now more than ever it’s time to double-down & fight ever harder. I implore you to not give up on America . If you do realize this…..
    You’ve given up on the world.

    I’ll be damned if I turn my back on my country.


  532. John Difool
    534 | November 7, 2012 10:30 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    Hopefully American resilience will overcome the abortion of a President it just re-elected.

    People decided they just haven’t had it bad enough yet & can palate plenty more misery.

    I hope they open up wide & say ahhhh, because theres plenty more coming down pipe.

    As good as things looked yesterday at this time, in the back of my mind I reminded myself that 7 million new folks on welfare & about 70-80k new government employees was a feature, not a bug to this administration.

    They’ll work harder than ever the next four years to increase those numbers ever further not realizing the hard lessons that were learned last century.

    It always works until you run out of other peoples money & then, then……the collapse.


  533. 535 | November 7, 2012 10:30 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    Hopefully American resilience will overcome the abortion of a President it just re-elected.

    Our founders had faith in America when there was no evidence whatsoever that they would be successful, in fact, all the evidence pointed against them. That’s what faith is all about and that’s where we are right now.


  534. 536 | November 7, 2012 10:31 am

    @ John Difool:
    How the f*ck is the USD gaining ground on the Canadian Dollar? I mean seriously?


  535. Speranza
    537 | November 7, 2012 10:31 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    We need to have runoff primaries so these Sharron Angle, Todd Akin types do not sneak in with 34% of the vote.

    Yeah, when people are “primaried out” the candidate that’s “primaried in” should be someone who can friggin’ win. Most of the time, even an unreliable RINO is better than a damned Democrat.

    Better a RINO then a Democrat. Taking control of the Senate is far too important.


  536. Speranza
    538 | November 7, 2012 10:33 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Flyovercountry wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    I’ve been ill since they called Ohio last night. My advice to the world is to start drinking heavily. I would seriously listen to the speechifying of secessionists right about now.

    Yup, we’re pretty much doomed.

    This will be a joyless holiday season for me (and you and millions of others).


  537. John Difool
    539 | November 7, 2012 10:34 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    How the f*ck is the USD gaining ground on the Canadian Dollar? I mean seriously?

    Have no idea but I know it way down against the euro last i heard a few hours ago unless it rebounded.


  538. 540 | November 7, 2012 10:36 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Better a RINO then a Democrat. Taking control of the Senate is far too important.

    Agreed. If Obama has taught us anything, it’s that “change” is a very sharp double-edged sword.


  539. Speranza
    541 | November 7, 2012 10:36 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Our founders had faith in America when there was no evidence whatsoever that they would be successful, in fact, all the evidence pointed against them. That’s what faith is all about and that’s where we are right now.

    Historically most two term presidents hit a wall after they reach their 6th year (they go into lame duck mode). If the House GOP holds firm and acts like an opposition party well maybe, just maybe – there might be something to build on. Also most two term presidents second terms are worse then their first term.


  540. 542 | November 7, 2012 10:36 am

    We are not a center-right nation anymore. Probably haven’t been for a while, but the pundits keeps telling us that we are. I don’t blame the GOP or Romney or the campaign managers, anyone for this. We have to understand once and for all that we are up against a dangerously ignorant and easily-fooled citizenry. Our country is so far adrift from its original principles that I don’t see how we can correct the course at this point.
    I was looking forward to Romney and Ryan raising the bar for what we should aspire to. Instead thuggery and evil has prevailed. Driving through brooklyn this morning I saw the gas lines, the police, the barricades, the lines of people holding gas containers, the stopped traffic, the despair. I saw a glimpse of armegeddon. I’m trying to uplift my attitude but I’m profoundly sad for our country.


  541. BuddyG
    543 | November 7, 2012 10:38 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    America has lost.
    The GOP House should go into pure opposition.

    America will diminish, but nevertheless, 50.3% of voters want a big gov’t entitlement society.


  542. heysoos
    544 | November 7, 2012 10:39 am

    here we are finally…from wiki

    The iron law of oligarchy is a political theory, first developed by the German syndicalist sociologist Robert Michels in his 1911 book, Political Parties.[1] It claims that rule by an elite, or “oligarchy”, is inevitable as an “iron law” within any organization as part of the “tactical and technical necessities” of organization.[1] Michels particularly addressed the application of this law to representative democracy, and stated: “It is organization which gives birth to the dominion of the elected over the electors, of the mandataries over the mandators, of the delegates over the delegators. Who says organization, says oligarchy.”[1] He went on to state that “Historical evolution mocks all the prophylactic measures that have been adopted for the prevention of oligarchy.”[1] Michels stated that the official goal of representative democracy of eliminating elite rule was impossible, that representative democracy is a façade legitimizing the rule of a particular elite, and that elite rule, that he refers to as oligarchy, is inevitable.[1]


  543. 545 | November 7, 2012 10:39 am

    John Difool wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    1389, sorry about being shitty towards you last night, but last night was pretty bad for a lot of us for obvious reasons.
    Just realize this. America is the shining light of liberty & freedom and the last best hope of the world & when that light is extinguished there will be no where to run, nowhere to hide where the darkness will not find you.
    It’s not time to give up. Now more than ever it’s time to double-down & fight ever harder. I implore you to not give up on America . If you do realize this…..
    You’ve given up on the world.

    Apology accepted! I’m way too old to be a grudge holder anyway!

    I understand where you’re coming from. I haven’t quite given up on the world. Where I disagree with you is that the US is still the last best hope and that if the light goes out here, it’s out everywhere. I keep up on these things and I see a few lights coming on in other places (hats off to our neighbors to the north). Not many, to be sure, but every little bit helps. I think the lights started to go out in the US after Ronald Reagan left office. The Clintons and the Bushes were disasters that paved the way for the Obama/Jarrett regime. It always seems darkest before it goes completely black – and I don’t mean that in the racial sense at all!

    I believe that it is possible to influence other countries to step up to the plate to become the defenders of freedom and the Judaeo-Christian tradition. The USA is too big and too much under the control of the enemedia for me to make any real impact at this time. Though I won’t stop trying.


  544. Speranza
    546 | November 7, 2012 10:41 am

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    We are not a center-right nation anymore. Probably haven’t been for a while, but the pundits keeps telling us that we are. I don’t blame the GOP or Romney or the campaign managers, anyone for this. We have to understand once and for all that we are up against a dangerously ignorant and easily-fooled citizenry. Our country is so far adrift from its original principles that I don’t see how we can correct the course at this point.
    I was looking forward to Romney and Ryan raising the bar for what we should aspire to. Instead thuggery and evil has prevailed. Driving through brooklyn this morning I saw the gas lines, the police, the barricades, the lines of people holding gas containers, the stopped traffic, the despair. I saw a glimpse of armegeddon. I’m trying to uplift my attitude but I’m profoundly sad for our country.

    This is definitely not the same nation it was in 1980. People just want their handouts and entitlements.


  545. John Difool
    547 | November 7, 2012 10:42 am

    @ 1389AD:

    But this was his plan all along.

    A lot of folks on the right were convinced Barry’s plan was to weaken America by destroying it’s influence throughout the world & have it groveling at the feet of Europe & the Islamic world. Turn it into a socialist dystopia like we’re seeing in the U.K. right now.

    Well it is except that I believe his & his comrades endgame is to divide it right down the middle pitting half the country against the other & see a Soviet style or Yugoslavian style breakup.

    Although charity & humanitarianism is in our blood,just the remember this: when the shit hits the fan, take no pity & have no remorse for those who have done us & America harm. Let ‘em starve, freeze & wallow in their misery on the other side of the fence, turn a blind eye to their suffering & a deaf ear to their howling.

    They deserve it.

    We are the makers, not the takers & makers are survivors.


  546. Speranza
    548 | November 7, 2012 10:45 am

    A co-worker of mine who is a conservative from New Jersey just sent me this email

    Btw, I could have told you that the RINO Christie was a fat blowhard whose bully boy and tough guy pose are wearing thin—He grew up in tony suburbs of Livingston and Mendham, but tries to act like he’s from Newark or Jersey City —I’m voting democrat for the first time in nearly 40 years when Cory Booker runs against the fat slob.


  547. 549 | November 7, 2012 10:47 am

    @ Speranza:

    Christie’s wet-kiss to Obama may have been the thing that turned the tide, especially in Virginia. He should be ostracized for it. I’ve never liked Christie anyway. I’d say my low opinion of him has been confirmed in spades.


  548. John Difool
    550 | November 7, 2012 10:49 am

    BuddyG wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    America has lost.
    The GOP House should go into pure opposition.
    America will diminish, but nevertheless, 50.3% of voters want a big gov’t entitlement society.

    Doesn’t matter if the GOP House become pure obstructionists. As we’ve already seen time & time again over the last two years Barry Longshanks cares nothing for the Constitution & rule of law & will continue to put forth xo’s & rule by decree.

    At this point the House & Senate are nothing but a facade for a power mad Ceasar, just like in the Roman Empire of old.


  549. Speranza
    551 | November 7, 2012 10:52 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Christie’s wet-kiss to Obama may have been the thing that turned the tide, especially in Virginia. He should be ostracized for it. I’ve never liked Christie anyway. I’d say my low opinion of him has been confirmed in spades.

    I loathe the fat ****!


  550. John Difool
    552 | November 7, 2012 10:55 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Christie’s wet-kiss to Obama may have been the thing that turned the tide, especially in Virginia. He should be ostracized for it. I’ve never liked Christie anyway. I’d say my low opinion of him has been confirmed in spades.

    We can blame that fuck all we want but with or without sandy i believe the outcome would have been the same, the majority of American voters believe anything the DLSM puts out there & are stuck-on-stupid & would rather turn on Honey Boo Boo than click on a political blog.


  551. 553 | November 7, 2012 10:59 am

    John Difool wrote:

    At this point the House & Senate are nothing but a facade for a power mad Ceasar, just like in the Roman Empire of old.

    I am afraid that you are right there. The next four years are a long, dark hole. I’ve already told my wife that we are going into covering mode. I did what I could this election, adn Tennessee voted 59% for Romney. I simply couldn’t find the resources to go to Ohio and help with their GOTV efforts, though I seriously considered it. Oh, well. I couldn’t have made a difference, anyway. The people have chosen, the bastards, and I don’t believe that they have a clue of what they;ve really set the United States up for. We will fall. By 2016 the Federal Debt will be over $21 trillion. Collapse is inevitible when you have that kind of debt to income ratio. That is worse than what Weimar Germany faced from the Treaty of Versailles, and we all know how that lovely thing turned out. We’re screwed. It really is just a matter of time.


  552. John Difool
    554 | November 7, 2012 11:02 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    May be already happening. Markets are in a free-fall right now, Dow looks like it’s crashing.


  553. Storagemanager
    555 | November 7, 2012 11:04 am

    1389AD wrote:

    Revenge begins now.

    I don’t see how that’s possible within our lifetimes. After all, we are not going to take up arms and massacre everybody who voted for Obama. That’s not how we roll. We’ve lost any input into public opinion and even the GOP won’t listen to us.

    I was talking about Obamas revenge.


  554. John Difool
    556 | November 7, 2012 11:05 am

    Story over on Drudge right now saying Romney failed to match McCain’s ’08 vote totals & 14 million people less turned out this election.

    We are fucked harder than I imagined.


  555. heysoos
    557 | November 7, 2012 11:07 am

    @ John Difool:
    the masses of people that could have prevented this, sit on their ass watching tv…it’s just that simple


  556. 558 | November 7, 2012 11:08 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    Christie’s wet-kiss to Obama may have been the thing that turned the tide, especially in Virginia. He should be ostracized for it. I’ve never liked Christie anyway. I’d say my low opinion of him has been confirmed in spades.

    I loathe the fat ****!

    Yup, he stabbed Romney in the back knowing full well what he was doing.


  557. John Difool
    559 | November 7, 2012 11:12 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Wonder if Ann Coulter still gets all hot & bothered when the Stay Puft Marshmallow Governor walks in the room ?


  558. 560 | November 7, 2012 11:12 am

    New thread.

    This one is well over 500 comments and thus has been giving rise to server errors.


  559. heysoos
    561 | November 7, 2012 11:13 am

    “The election is over and the elitists have won”
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100188325/the-election-is-over-and-the-elitists-have-won/

    So Obama’s main source of funding was not donations from millions of Joe Averages but handouts from “the tech sector, government and the academy” – his top five funders were “the University of California, Microsoft, Google, the US government, and Harvard”. Executives at Craigslist, Facebook and Google gave maximum donations to Obama’s campaign. As Kotkin points out, these people make their fortunes “not through tangible goods but instead by manipulating and packaging information”, and so they are “generally not interested in the mundane economy of carbon-based energy, large-scale agriculture, housing, and manufacturing”. As such, he says, unlike much of the masses who make a living getting their hands dirty in carbon-based industries, these extravagantly wealthy elitists can “afford to be green and progressive, since they rarely deal with physical infrastructure or unions or the challenges of training lower-skilled workers”.


  560. Speranza
    562 | November 7, 2012 11:16 am

    John Difool wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Wonder if Ann Coulter still gets all hot & bothered when the Stay Puft Marshmallow Governor walks in the room ?

    I like Coulter but her thing for Christie is bizarre.


  561. Speranza
    563 | November 7, 2012 11:18 am

    @ heysoos:
    The folks who are so wealthy that they can survive Obamanomics.


  562. 564 | November 7, 2012 11:19 am

    Go to your local Wal-Mart or your local mall, “The People of Wal-Mart” are Obama’s constituency, not because of Wal-Mart, but because a good portion of our population have been so dumbed-down by a worthless education system, then coddled and subsidized by government that they’ve lost all hope of achieving anything. Instead of using the bully pulpit of the Presidency to break the tragic cycle of black children and the dissolution of the black family, he’s glorified the destructive culture in order to get their votes. He capitalizes on the misery of every single “interest group” that comprises his constituency by highlighting grievance instead of actual unity. He doesn’t lift people up, he reenforces their victimhood.

    He’s not graduated from his “community organizer” (rabble rouser) roots, he just has a nicer office and title.


  563. Speranza
    565 | November 7, 2012 11:19 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Yup, he stabbed Romney in the back knowing full well what he was doing.

    Two good things about Chris Christie
    1. He defeated the sociopath Jon Corzine
    2. He tried to reign in the unions

    Other then that he is a bull shit artist.


  564. Speranza
    566 | November 7, 2012 11:20 am

    John Difool wrote:

    Story over on Drudge right now saying Romney failed to match McCain’s ’08 vote totals & 14 million people less turned out this election.

    We are fucked harder than I imagined.

    The fault is not Romney’s but America’s.


  565. John Difool
    567 | November 7, 2012 11:28 am

    Speranza wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    Story over on Drudge right now saying Romney failed to match McCain’s ’08 vote totals & 14 million people less turned out this election.
    We are fucked harder than I imagined.

    The fault is not Romney’s but America’s.

    Yep.


  566. randian
    568 | November 7, 2012 11:39 am

    Lily wrote:

    happened

    Lots of vote fraud, I’ll bet. They physically threw out GOP election watchers in Philly. They were let back in, but I’m sure the gap was plenty long enough to import some fake ballots or other shenanigans. Now, Philly was going for Obama in any case, so the only purpose would have been to help throw the whole state Obama’s way, which it appears it did.


  567. Ben_Dover
    569 | November 7, 2012 12:14 pm

    So sorry to hear Obama won second term. I think it’s not Romneys fault. The stupid people outnumber the smart ones, its that simple.

    I’m wondering if Ron Pauls people refusing to vote might have an impact. If I’m not mistaken, he was pretty popular in Ohio.

    Look at the bright side, the people that are going to get the most hurt by Obamas policies are Obamas people themselves.

    Insulate your selves against the crashing plane. Eg. start keeping your money in a different currency or gold.


  568. taxfreekiller
    570 | November 7, 2012 12:21 pm

    When Obama won the first time. 1/2 of grandads stuff went to other places.
    Now that he won once more the 1/2 of grandads stuff still here is going out soon.

    Last thing to go will be the land, may just keep it and run things from outside and hope that the final fall will come quick and get over fast.

    No matter the lies the msm tells, the commie way is a dead end road.


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