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Barack Obama and the politics of contempt

by Speranza ( 209 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Barack Obama, Egypt, Elections 2012, Iran, Israel, Libya, Mitt Romney, Muslim Brotherhood at November 6th, 2012 - 12:00 pm

Miss Glick takes apart Obama’s totalitarian instincts.

by Caroline Glick

“Your first time shouldn’t be with just anybody. You want to do it with a great guy.”

So begins the now famous official Barack Obama for President campaign ad that was released last week. The ad depicts a young woman named Lena Dunham, who is apparently a celebrity among Americans in their teens and 20s.

After that opening line, Ms. Dunham continues on for another minute and a half discussing how having sex for the first time and voting for Barack Obama for president are really the same thing, and how young women don’t want to be accused of either being virgins or of having passed up on their chance to cast their votes for Obama next Tuesday.

I’ve never been particularly interested in so-called “women’s issues.” It never seemed to me that any party or politician was particularly good or bad for me due to the way they thought of women. That all changed with the Dunham ad for Obama.

With this ad, Obama convinced me he is a misogynist.

The Obama campaign’s use of a double entendre to compare sex – the most personal, intimate act we engage in as human beings, with voting – the most public act we engage in as human beings – is a scandal.

It is demeaning and contemptuous of women. It reduces us to sexual objects. When called on to vote, as far as Obama is concerned, as slaves to our passions, we make our decisions not based on our capacity for rational choice. Rather we choose our leaders solely on the basis of our sexual desires.

Beyond the ad’s bald attempt to impersonalize, generalize and cheapen the most personal act human beings engage in, the ad is repulsive because it takes for granted that what happens in our private lives is the government’s business.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is a totalitarian position.

The whole point of liberal democracy is to put a barrier between a person’s personal life and his or her government. A liberal democracy is founded on the notion of limited government. It assumes there are a lot of places where government has no role to play. And first and foremost among those places is the bedroom.

The theory behind limited government is that if the government is permitted in our private space then we are no longer free. When – as in the case of the Dunham ad – a political campaign conveys the message that there is something personally wrong with not actively supporting its candidate, it communicates the message that it sees no distinction between personal and public life, and therefore rejects the basic notion of freedom from government. And this is repugnant, not just for women, but for everyone who values freedom.

One of the oddest aspects of the Obama sex ad is that to believe that this sort of message can be effective, the campaign had to ignore mountains of data about the demographic group the ad targets – young college-educated women.

According to just about every piece of survey data collected over the past 20 years, young women in America today are more accomplished, more professionally driven, and more intellectually successful than their male counterparts. That the Obama campaign believes the votes of this successful, smart group of women can be won by appealing to their basest urges rather than their capacity to reason is demeaning and perverse and, one would think, counterproductive.

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The fact is that the Obama campaign – and indeed, the Obama presidency – has treated the American people with unprecedented arrogance and contempt. On issue after issue, Obama and his minions have eschewed intellectual argumentation.

On issue after issue they have preferred instead to attack Obama’s detractors as stupid, backwards, bigoted, bellicose and evil.

For instance, however one feels about current events in the Middle East, there is a legitimate – indeed critical – argument to be had about the nature of the Islamist forces the Obama administration is supporting from Cairo, Egypt, to Alexandria, Virginia.

[.......]

There is an intellectual case to be made for appeasing these popular, popularly elected forces.

There is a (stronger) intellectual case to be made for opposing them. But rather than make any of the hard arguments for appeasing the Muslim Brotherhood, the Obama administration has deflected the issue by castigating everyone who opposes its appeasement policies as racist, McCarthyite warmongers.

If women who don’t support Obama are prudish geeks, Americans who oppose his appeasement policies are bloodthirsty bigots.

Then there was the attack in Benghazi on September 11 and the general Islamic assaults on US embassies throughout the Muslim world that day.

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The rioters who stormed the US embassies in Egypt, Tunis and Yemen and replaced the American flag with the flag of al-Qaida all violated sovereign US territory and carried out acts of war. The US had the right, under international law, to repel and respond with military force against the rioters as well as against their governments. Instead the White House blamed the acts of war on a US citizen who posted a video on YouTube.

Then there was Benghazi. In Benghazi, jihadists took this collective aggression a step further. They attacked the US Consulate and a US government safe house with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades. Their goal was to murder all the US citizens inside the compounds. In the event, they successfully murdered four Americans, including the US ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.

In the six weeks that have passed since the attack in Benghazi, despite administration attempts to stonewall, and despite the US’s media’s inexcusable lack of interest in the story, information has continuously dribbled out indicating that Obama and his senior advisers knew in real time what was happening on the ground. It has also come out that they rejected multiple requests from multiple sources to employ military power readily available to save the lives of the Americans on the ground.

There may be good reasons that Obama and his top aides denied those repeated requests for assistance and allowed the American citizens pinned down in Benghazi to die. But Obama and his aides have not provided any.

Rather than defend their actions, Obama and his advisers first sought to cover up what happened by blaming the acts of war on that YouTube video.

When that line of argument collapsed of its own absurdity, Obama shifted to blaming the messenger.

His campaign accused everyone asking for facts and truthful explanations about what happened in Benghazi of trying to politicize the attack.

Obama himself has twice struck the Captain Renault pose and declared himself “Shocked, shocked!” that anyone would dare to insinuate that he did not do everything in his power to save the lives of the Americans whose lives he failed to save.

The reason specific sectors of a society usually feel compelled to vote on the basis of their sectoral interests rather than their general interests as citizens of their country is that they feel that one candidate or party specifically endangers their sectoral interests. Hence, the Lena Dunham ad, which insults women specifically, compels women to vote as women against Obama.

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As we saw in Libya, Egypt, Tunis, Yemen and beyond, his appeasement policies endanger all Americans equally.

This is not the case with Obama’s treatment of Israel and Jews. Obama’s supporters always highlight statements he has made and actions he has taken in relation to Israel and Jews that are relatively supportive of both.

To be sure, like every other US president, Obama has made some statements, and taken some actions, that have been supportive of Jews and of Israel. But unlike most other US presidents, he has made far more statements and taken far more actions that have been contemptuous and hostile to Israel and Jews. And this is inexcusable.

It is inexcusable that Obama uses coded anti- Semitic language to blame America’s economic woes on “fat cat bankers.” It is inexcusable that his secretary of state and his senior advisers have repeatedly made references to the so-called Israel Lobby to explain why America is supposedly hamstrung in its ability to sell Israel to the wolves.

It is inexcusable that Obama sends his surrogates before the cameras to refer to Israel’s prime minister as “ungrateful,” or to castigate Israel for permitting Jews to build homes in Jerusalem on land they own and for permitting Jews to exercise their legal rights to their property – simply because they are Jews.

Israel is the US’s most important ally in the Middle East. As such, it deserves to be treated well by the US – all the time. Any move to treat Israel with contempt is an unprovoked hostile act and therefore inexcusable.

So, too, US Jews have a right to make an honest living doing anything they wish – including working on Wall Street or owning a casino in Las Vegas. Jews have a right to be treated with respect by the US government. They should not have to be concerned about having their reputations maligned by politicians who use anti-Semitic tropes to gain political advantage.

Obama’s contemptuous vilification of Israel and successful American Jews make him bad for Jews specifically. Just as the Dunham ad exposes his underlying hostility towards women and so makes clear that women’s interests are imperiled by his presidency, so Obama’s repeated hostile treatment of Israel and American Jews make him a specific danger to Jewish interests.

Many would-be deep thinkers have proclaimed that the presidential election is a choice between two competing narratives. But that isn’t an accurate description of the race.

Only Republican nominee Mitt Romney is presenting a narrative. In his narrative, the US faces very difficult problems in domestic and foreign policy alike. Romney has laid out his priorities for which problems he wishes to contend with, and has presented policies he will adopt to do so if he is elected next Tuesday.

On the other hand, by Obama’s telling, the real problems America faces are all the result of the empowerment of his political opponents and America’s allies.
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Women will vote for him because we are dimwitted sex objects. And Jews will vote for him because we are taken in by his occasional Borscht Belt schmaltz platitudes about Hanukka.

God help us all if his contemptuous assessment of his countrymen is borne out next Tuesday.

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  1. Speranza
    1 | November 6, 2012 12:03 pm

    I hope that Lena Dunham ad comes back to bite Obama in the balls.


  2. 2 | November 6, 2012 12:10 pm

    @ Speranza:

    hey this a PG blog!
    /////

    :wink:


  3. 3 | November 6, 2012 12:32 pm

    Don’t know if it’s me or not, I keep getting a 500 server error on the last thread.


  4. CynicalConservative
    4 | November 6, 2012 12:33 pm

    Maybe just me, but getting 500 errors on the downthread…

    /lurk


  5. 5 | November 6, 2012 12:34 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    @ CynicalConservative:

    I got one as well, and Blogmocracy as a whole was unreachable from my Cell Phone at lunch.


  6. 6 | November 6, 2012 12:39 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    @ Iron Fist:
    @ CynicalConservative:

    I think it was the video embed from my Black Panther thread. I took that thread down.


  7. 7 | November 6, 2012 12:42 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Cool. We need to move the conversation over to here, anyway. That other thread is getting too long. I think we’ll know who our next President is in less than 12 hours, myself. I don’t think there’s going to be a Florida-style re-count this election. We’re getting our people to the polls.


  8. lobo91
    8 | November 6, 2012 12:44 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Cool. We need to move the conversation over to here, anyway. That other thread is getting too long. I think we’ll know who our next President is in less than 12 hours, myself. I don’t think there’s going to be a Florida-style re-count this election. We’re getting our people to the polls.

    I’m just worried about the massive number of provisional ballots they’re expecting in Ohio, which won’t be counted until November 17th.


  9. 9 | November 6, 2012 12:46 pm

    @ lobo91:

    A Janitor will discover ballots in a garbage bin!


  10. 10 | November 6, 2012 12:51 pm

    Time to take my daughter ice skating at the outing the PTA is sponsoring. I am going to wear my Tac-Ear to try and pick up on the Yoga Moms conversations. AARP when I return.


  11. 11 | November 6, 2012 12:51 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That could be a problem, but only if Romney loses both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. I don’t think that is going to happen. Obama isn’t pulling the crowds he once did. He’s already tried the Greek god gig, and failed miserably at it. I think the American People realize this. I don’t expect the media to accept it, though, until they absolutely have no choice. But when they do, it is going to be a beautiful thing.


  12. waldensianspirit
  13. 13 | November 6, 2012 1:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    A Janitor will discover ballots in a garbage bin!

    And they will be almost all Democrat.


  14. The Osprey
    14 | November 6, 2012 1:03 pm

    Tingles: Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “racist”.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/06/tingles-slams-dinesh-dsouzas-film-as-racist/


  15. song_and_dance_man
    15 | November 6, 2012 1:04 pm

    Can’t wait to see the folding Chair give his concession speech tonight.


  16. 16 | November 6, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    SO Indians are racist now! Everyone is a racist!


  17. song_and_dance_man
    17 | November 6, 2012 1:05 pm

    Hey Rodan. Is it possible to buy more bandwidth for tonight? I’ll pay for it.


  18. song_and_dance_man
    18 | November 6, 2012 1:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’m just worried about the massive number of provisional ballots they’re expecting in Ohio, which won’t be counted until November 17th.

    If the spread is big enough for Romney it won’t matter.


  19. waldensianspirit
    19 | November 6, 2012 1:07 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Tingles: Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “racist”.

    A bigoted white liberal labelling an Indian a racist? Who knew


  20. Speranza
    20 | November 6, 2012 1:09 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Cool. We need to move the conversation over to here, anyway. That other thread is getting too long. I think we’ll know who our next President is in less than 12 hours, myself. I don’t think there’s going to be a Florida-style re-count this election. We’re getting our people to the polls.

    I am optimistic but need to remind myself not to let the media discourage us with those false exit pollings as they did in 2004.


  21. lobo91
    21 | November 6, 2012 1:09 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’m just worried about the massive number of provisional ballots they’re expecting in Ohio, which won’t be counted until November 17th.

    If the spread is big enough for Romney it won’t matter.

    It’ll have to be awfully big. They’re predicting as many as a couple hundred thousand provisional ballots, because some genius decided to send absentee ballot requests to every registered voter in the state. There are still a couple hundred thousand ballots that were mailed out that haven’t been returned. If those people show up at the polls, instead, they have to cast provisional ballots.


  22. 22 | November 6, 2012 1:10 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Hey Rodan. Is it possible to buy more bandwidth for tonight? I’ll pay for it.

    We have good bandwidth. There is a ticket to out service provider.


  23. song_and_dance_man
    23 | November 6, 2012 1:10 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Tingles: Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “racist”.

    How!/


  24. Speranza
    24 | November 6, 2012 1:10 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Tingles: Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “racist”.
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/06/tingles-slams-dinesh-dsouzas-film-as-racist/

    Call Charles Johnson the Race Detective.


  25. lobo91
    25 | November 6, 2012 1:10 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I am optimistic but need to remind myself not to let the media discourage us with those false exit pollings as they did in 2004.

    I pay no attention whatsoever to exit polling. Reading tea leaves or chicken entrails is more reliable.


  26. song_and_dance_man
    26 | November 6, 2012 1:11 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    We have good bandwidth. There is a ticket to out service provider.

    Good. Cause you know were going be jumping tonight.


  27. lobo91
    27 | November 6, 2012 1:15 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    The north, Midwest and west back Obama. The south is with Romney, or, should I say, is against Obama.

    Because those people couldn’t possibly think that Romney would be a better president or anything. Has to be racism.

    And topping it off, we heard Romney himself out here in Ohio today tying all this trash talk together, the president is bent on, get this, revenge

    Yes using his own words against him is clearly racist. Never mind that Valerie Jarrett has come right out and said that they’ve compiled an “enemies list” for the second term.

    Matthews is an embarrasment to MSNBC at this point, if such a thing is possible.


  28. John Difool
    28 | November 6, 2012 1:17 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Obama congratulates Romney on “spirited campaign”

    That was a quasi-declaration of early victory, totally expected & predicted. The election is either close to tied up or he’s behind based on Dem early return data. Look for more chest thumping from him as the day goes on.

    If it’s not looking good for him close to closing time on the east coast look for the media to follow suit to try & drive down conservative voter turn-out in the midwest, mountain & west.


  29. 29 | November 6, 2012 1:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    if such a thing is possible.

    It’s not.


  30. 31 | November 6, 2012 1:19 pm

    @ Speranza:

    They’re even cooking the exit polling this year. They are only doing exit polls from something like 31 States. They left a number of big Romney states (Like Texas) off the list. Of course, they have all the big urban centers for Obama covered. The media will lie to us every chance they get. I have more respect for a $25-buck-a-fuck prostitute than I do your average presstitute.


  31. lobo91
    32 | November 6, 2012 1:21 pm

    Detroit: Woman Campaigning For Obama Punches Voter In The Face, Smacks Cop Trying To Arrest Her…

    Sounds like things are interesting in Detroit today.


  32. lobo91
    33 | November 6, 2012 1:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Exit polls are crap, anyway. Always have been.

    No face-to-face polling done in a public place is ever worth anything, because there’s no control over the sampling.


  33. 34 | November 6, 2012 1:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Here’s a link for that:

    Breaking from two decades of tradition, this year’s election exit poll is set to include surveys of voters in 31 states, not all 50 as it has for the past five presidential elections, according to multiple people involved in the planning.

    Dan Merkle, director of elections for ABC News, and a member of the consortium that runs the exit poll, confirmed the shift Thursday. The aim, he said, “is to still deliver a quality product in the most important states,” in the face of mounting survey costs.

    Here is a list of the states that will be excluded from coverage: Alaska, Arkansas, Delaware, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.

    You can see that Romney states predominate the list. That is surely an oversight… :roll:


  34. CynicalConservative
    35 | November 6, 2012 1:24 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Zip’s a regular clearinghouse of the crap flying out there today.

    /lurk


  35. heysoos
    36 | November 6, 2012 1:25 pm

    overseas voting fucked up…
    faulty machines…
    chaos at the poles…
    nickel and dime fraud everywhere…
    cheerleading poll officials…
    corrupt media and polls…
    2 years of grotesque campaigning…
    billions spent lying to each other…
    talk shows for pulpits…
    I think I’m not impressed, we can do a hell of alot better
    I’m totally jaded


  36. 37 | November 6, 2012 1:26 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Just another way the press tries to manipulate the public. They always have, really, but they used to hide it better. These days they are straight from the Ministry of Truth.


  37. Speranza
    38 | November 6, 2012 1:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I pay no attention whatsoever to exit polling. Reading tea leaves or chicken entrails is more reliable.

    Or listening to an analysis coming from The New York Times.


  38. lobo91
    39 | November 6, 2012 1:27 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I think I’m not impressed, we can do a hell of alot better

    Can’t do much worse, unless we want to join the EU.


  39. Speranza
    40 | November 6, 2012 1:28 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    They’re even cooking the exit polling this year. They are only doing exit polls from something like 31 States. They left a number of big Romney states (Like Texas) off the list. Of course, they have all the big urban centers for Obama covered. The media will lie to us every chance they get. I have more respect for a $25-buck-a-fuck prostitute than I do your average presstitute.

    Like the man behind the curtain -- pay them no mind.


  40. John Difool
    41 | November 6, 2012 1:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    overseas voting fucked up…
    faulty machines…
    chaos at the poles…
    nickel and dime fraud everywhere…
    cheerleading poll officials…
    corrupt media and polls…
    2 years of grotesque campaigning…
    billions spent lying to each other…
    talk shows for pulpits…
    I think I’m not impressed, we can do a hell of alot better
    I’m totally jaded

    But the U.seless N. are out watching for voter intimidation, fraud & acts of violence committed by conservatives & as we’ve seen with the Tea Party’s……none to be found.


  41. heysoos
    42 | November 6, 2012 1:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I think I’m not impressed, we can do a hell of alot better
    Can’t do much worse, unless we want to join the EU.

    I keep hoping we’ve struck bottom, but it’s the same or worse every year….this fraud gig especially pisses me off, the brazen dishonesty of it all is very uncool


  42. bluliner10
    43 | November 6, 2012 1:29 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I am rolling bones! Always good results from dat!


  43. TolerantT
    44 | November 6, 2012 1:31 pm

    Hi all. Serial lurker here. Posted a couple times a few years back. I stand guarded but hopeful. I voted about 2 hours ago here in Aurora, Colorado and I have never seen a poling place of this size. It was in the main gym of our local high school that has a student body of about 3,000 students. Massive space and massive turnout at 0900. Steady stream of voters. It wasn’t even this large in 2008. No Exit poling and no Panthers here.


  44. John Difool
    45 | November 6, 2012 1:35 pm

    Good News: Howard Dean just came out & said “the only way we lose is through fraud”

    Which means, they must be losing big.


  45. John Difool
    46 | November 6, 2012 1:37 pm

    At this point Howard Dean is just hoping to stoke the riots.


  46. citizen_q
    47 | November 6, 2012 1:40 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Good News: Howard Dean just came out & said “the only way we lose is through fraud”
    Which means, they must be losing big.

    Projection.

    IF the demon-craps win, fraud and dirty tricks will likely be the tipping point. acorn did not go away for example, the went underground.


  47. song_and_dance_man
    48 | November 6, 2012 1:45 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Good News: Howard Dean just came out & said “the only way we lose is through fraud”

    Which means, they must be losing big.

    You can see it in their faces. Chair in desperation mode and Mitt looking confident means their internals are behind that.


  48. Buckeye Abroad
    49 | November 6, 2012 1:45 pm

    They are getting a bit desperate.


  49. lobo91
    50 | November 6, 2012 1:45 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    IF the demon-craps win, fraud and dirty tricks will likely be the tipping point. acorn did not go away for example, the went underground.

    ACORN went underground to about the extent of putting on one of those plastic Groucho noses.

    All they did was change their name. In most cases, they kept the same offices, phone numbers, bank accounts, and even Employer ID numbers they had before.


  50. song_and_dance_man
    51 | November 6, 2012 1:46 pm

    TolerantT wrote:

    Hi all. Serial lurker here. Posted a couple times a few years back. I stand guarded but hopeful. I voted about 2 hours ago here in Aurora, Colorado and I have never seen a poling place of this size. It was in the main gym of our local high school that has a student body of about 3,000 students. Massive space and massive turnout at 0900. Steady stream of voters. It wasn’t even this large in 2008. No Exit poling and no Panthers here.

    Well then. On behalf of the Blogmocracy Welcoming Committee I offer this laurel and hearty handshake.

    Glad you’re back.


  51. John Difool
    52 | November 6, 2012 1:48 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    Good News: Howard Dean just came out & said “the only way we lose is through fraud”
    Which means, they must be losing big.

    Projection.
    IF the demon-craps win, fraud and dirty tricks will likely be the tipping point. acorn did not go away for example, the went underground.

    I’m detecting a rather solemn & somber mood emanating from the left and the leftist media right now. must be their early exit polling data is looking shitty right now & that doesn’t bode well for them since most of the Dem votership has already peaked or is peaking right now in the east & midwest.

    Later in the day voting will most assuredly favor the GOP ticket in the swing states especially after 4-5 p.m..


  52. gizbot7
    53 | November 6, 2012 1:48 pm

    Aw man, the hubby is coming home early so we can go vote in about 45 minutes. I tell ya, can’t WAIT to hit the button for Romney — not to mention several other candidates in MD!! Cardin and Van Hollen need to go away and I don’t care if they’re mad about it or not. :lol:


  53. lobo91
    54 | November 6, 2012 1:48 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    They are getting a bit desperate.

    How long before Chris Matthews shows that on TV?


  54. song_and_dance_man
    55 | November 6, 2012 1:50 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    They are getting a bit desperate.

    The angry Left have no shame.

    Remember this?


  55. song_and_dance_man
    56 | November 6, 2012 1:51 pm

    TolerantT wrote:

    It wasn’t even this large in 2008. No Exit poling and no Panthers here.

    That looks good for Mitt.


  56. song_and_dance_man
    57 | November 6, 2012 1:53 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Good News: Howard Dean just came out & said “the only way we lose is through fraud”

    Does he fear being out-frauded?


  57. song_and_dance_man
    58 | November 6, 2012 1:54 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    How long before Chris Matthews shows that on TV?

    He won’t show it. He’s too busy licking the rest of the envelopes.


  58. 59 | November 6, 2012 1:55 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    They are very desperate. Good. I can’t wait until they are very defeated. This may turn out to be one of the more satisfyin gnights of my life. Watching the Left melt down will be quite enjoyable.


  59. song_and_dance_man
    60 | November 6, 2012 1:57 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    The thing I look forward to most is the concession speech by COTUS.


  60. song_and_dance_man
    61 | November 6, 2012 1:58 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Later in the day voting will most assuredly favor the GOP ticket in the swing states especially after 4-5 p.m..

    Yep. Most of us work for a living.


  61. 62 | November 6, 2012 1:59 pm

    We don’t need Voter ID:

    ABC News’ Jason Ryan reported via Twitter Tuesday afternoon that some DC poll workers have been given a photo of Attorney General Eric Holder in an effort to positively ID him should he show up to vote.

    “After James O’Keefe stunt in DC precinct 9 poll workers given picture of AG Eric Holder with ‘The real Eric Holder’ scrawled on paper,” @JasonRyanABC wrote.

    The revelation that poll workers are relying on the photo to identify Holder comes after conservative filmmaker James O’Keefe captured undercover footage earlier this year of DC poll workers offering Holder’s ballot to a young white activist.

    At the time, the Department of Justice called the video a “manufactured” example of “voter fraud.”

    It is too amusing, but it is sad, too. Most people don’t have that kind of care taken with their votes, and their vote can be stolen. Too, voter fraud is theft from the majority of us who vote legally. Eric Holder isn’t concerned with stopping that.


  62. John Difool
    63 | November 6, 2012 2:01 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    Later in the day voting will most assuredly favor the GOP ticket in the swing states especially after 4-5 p.m..
    Yep. Most of us work for a living.

    Didn’t want to stereotype it like that, but yep, it’s funny ’cause it’s true.


  63. heysoos
    64 | November 6, 2012 2:01 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    They are very desperate. Good. I can’t wait until they are very defeated. This may turn out to be one of the more satisfyin gnights of my life. Watching the Left melt down will be quite enjoyable.

    a neener neener of biblical proportion


  64. 65 | November 6, 2012 2:03 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Or Charles Johnson/LGF!


  65. John Difool
    66 | November 6, 2012 2:06 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    They are very desperate. Good. I can’t wait until they are very defeated. This may turn out to be one of the more satisfyin gnights of my life. Watching the Left melt down will be quite enjoyable.

    Yes, it will be very enjoyable but don’t expect the defeated to bow out gracefully. Count on them & the media to incite whatever hatred they can.

    I’m not saying there will be widespread riots like what happened in L.A. but if you live in certain areas,keep an eye out & stay frosty.


  66. TolerantT
    67 | November 6, 2012 2:08 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Thanks SADM! Glad to be back. I appreciate the site.

    T


  67. citizen_q
    68 | November 6, 2012 2:08 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Not hard to go underground if no one looks for you, I guess. I have not seen anything about them in a long time, but I know they are still about.

    John Difool wrote:

    I’m detecting a rather solemn & somber mood emanating from the left and the leftist media right now.

    How so? I haven’t the time to look around much.

    gizbot7 wrote:

    not to mention several other candidates in MD!! Cardin and Van Hollen need to go away and I don’t care if they’re mad about it or not

    Yep, I hope they get the bum’s rush.


  68. John Difool
    69 | November 6, 2012 2:13 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Howard Dean came out not too long ago on MSNBC & said “the only way we lose is through massive voter fraud”.

    And then I saw this & realized why he & others may be going into early panic mode: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332735/gop-edging-out-democrats-colorado-early-voting-eliana-johnson


  69. Lily
    70 | November 6, 2012 2:14 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    They are very desperate. Good. I can’t wait until they are very defeated. This may turn out to be one of the more satisfyin gnights of my life. Watching the Left melt down will be quite enjoyable.

    Indeed…I hope it is not a tight race and an over-whelming land-slide for Romney/Ryan….


  70. heysoos
    71 | November 6, 2012 2:16 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Howard Dean came out not too long ago on MSNBC & said “the only way we lose is through massive voter fraud”.
    And then I saw this & realized why he & others may be going into early panic mode: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332735/gop-edging-out-democrats-colorado-early-voting-eliana-johnson

    and this is before the late day gop slam…I doubt any donk has come from behind in any state after 5pm


  71. John Difool
    72 | November 6, 2012 2:17 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Oh, and then there’s this too.


  72. John Difool
    73 | November 6, 2012 2:20 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Yep, especially in the swings states. If they’re already losing Colorado early they will most certainly lose Virginia, Ohio & possibly Wisconsin & maybe even but I doubt, Pennsylvania.

    Keeping my fingers crossed anyway.


  73. 74 | November 6, 2012 2:24 pm

    @ John Difool:

    I think we’ll win Wisconsin. The polling has it tied, but the voter turnout machine that has won the last four elections there will win it for us again tonight. That’s my take on it, anyway. We’ll start hearing some real results around 7:00PM. No doubt the alphebet soup networks will rattle off a bunch of wins for Obama, but not call anything for Romney until about 9:00…


  74. heysoos
    76 | November 6, 2012 2:26 pm

    voter turnout is low in NM, probably due to demoralized donks…
    hello?
    HELLO?…
    New Mexico here
    zzzzzzzzzzz


  75. citizen_q
    77 | November 6, 2012 2:26 pm

    @ John Difool:
    Thanks for both posts!

    My understanding is that demoncraps usually outnumber the GOP in early voting, and with the GOP leading in early numbers spells trouble for the demoncraps. Got that right?

    One of the nice things about my work is that I can stream Rush and listen to his show as I work. Heard Rush look at the election this way; Obama did not win in a landslide. How many Republican voters who voted for McCain will vote for Obama this time? How many Democratic voters who voted for obama last time will vote for Romney this time. How many independents who voted for obama last time will vote for Romney this time.

    Rush seems confident for a strong Romney win.


  76. 78 | November 6, 2012 2:27 pm

    Oh, and if there are riots tonight when Obama loses, Howard “The Scream” Dean should go to prison for incitement. I’m dead serious about that. Lock the fucker up, and throw away the key.


  77. 79 | November 6, 2012 2:27 pm

    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?


  78. 80 | November 6, 2012 2:28 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    I think Tingles will be in a straightjacket by tomorrow morning.

    Damn… Am I evil for hoping he decides to play Russian Roulette with a loaded 1911 on live Television?


  79. John Difool
    81 | November 6, 2012 2:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    I think we’ll win Wisconsin. The polling has it tied, but the voter turnout machine that has won the last four elections there will win it for us again tonight. That’s my take on it, anyway. We’ll start hearing some real results around 7:00PM. No doubt the alphebet soup networks will rattle off a bunch of wins for Obama, but not call anything for Romney until about 9:00…

    Thats what worries me. If it’s close to being tied or Obama is slightly behind in places like Wisconsin & Ohio, as soon as the east coast polls start to close look for the media to start to call it for Obama or show him way ahead to tamp down conservative enthusiasm & late turnout to put him over the top.

    I pray some conservatives aren’t naive enough to let that happen this time.


  80. 82 | November 6, 2012 2:30 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    How many Democratic voters who voted for obama last time will vote for Romney this time.

    The number being bandied about on Left-wing sites (calling them “Defectors”, because not voting for Obama is just like escaping a totalitarian dictatorship) is 13%. If turnout were exactly the same for Obama and Romney as it was in 2008, that 13% would be enough to turn the tide, I believe, especially in the close states. But Republican turnout is going to be much better this year. And Democrat turnout is going to be much worse.


  81. momcat
    83 | November 6, 2012 2:31 pm

    Reporter: DC poll workers given photo of ‘the real Eric Holder’

    ABC News’ Jason Ryan reported via Twitter Tuesday afternoon that some DC poll workers have been given a photo of Attorney General Eric Holder in an effort to positively ID him should he show up to vote.

    Asked for comment, O’Keefe told The Daily Caller, “It sounds like they’re disenfranchising Eric Holder’s vote by providing a photo ID for him.”


  82. John Difool
    84 | November 6, 2012 2:31 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    I think Tingles will be in a straightjacket by tomorrow morning.

    Damn… Am I evil for hoping he decides to play Russian Roulette with a loaded 1911 on live Television?

    Nope, I hope he goes full Bud Dwyer with no regards to women & children.

    Fuck It…..Do it Live !!


  83. heysoos
    85 | November 6, 2012 2:34 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    How many Democratic voters who voted for obama last time will vote for Romney this time.
    The number being bandied about on Left-wing sites (calling them “Defectors”, because not voting for Obama is just like escaping a totalitarian dictatorship) is 13%. If turnout were exactly the same for Obama and Romney as it was in 2008, that 13% would be enough to turn the tide, I believe, especially in the close states. But Republican turnout is going to be much better this year. And Democrat turnout is going to be much worse.

    thanks for that…I often wondered what that number would be…seems dangerously within reach after that stuff coming out of Chicago…you’d think those people have the juice to persuade others….imagine that…BO’s black support tanks and he’s out…there goes all the phony race BS


  84. 86 | November 6, 2012 2:34 pm

    @ John Difool:

    By that time, though, voting will be mostly over. We do have to watch for them calling a State while the polls are still open like they did Florida in 2000. That most likely cost Bush the popular vote. Like I said earlier, I’ve got no use for the presstiutes. They are scum, and should be treated like the scum they are. First off, since they like high taxes, tax them at 100% of their income. That’d take the sneer off Chrissy Matthews’ cocksucker…


  85. 87 | November 6, 2012 2:36 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    By that time, though, voting will be mostly over. We do have to watch for them calling a State while the polls are still open like they did Florida in 2000. That most likely cost Bush the popular vote. Like I said earlier, I’ve got no use for the presstiutes. They are scum, and should be treated like the scum they are. First off, since they like high taxes, tax them at 100% of their income. That’d take the sneer off Chrissy Matthews’ cocksucker…

    100 percent my ass, tax those fucker 1000 percent, take from them everything give them NOTHING… :twisted:


  86. 88 | November 6, 2012 2:37 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Yeah, but they judge him by the color of his skin, not the content of his character. You see that from all over. I doubt Romney gets 10% of the black vote. I do think that the black voter turnout will be far less than it was in 2008, though. It has nothing to do with the vote being suppressed, but their lack of enthusiasm for a President who’s done fuck-all for them. Black unemployment is about half again what the average unemployment rate is.


  87. John Difool
    90 | November 6, 2012 2:41 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Getting out the Amish vote: Turnout may prove pivotal in Ohio and Pennsylvania

    Love to see video of a horse & buggy running over a Black Panther thug before the day is out.


  88. 91 | November 6, 2012 2:42 pm

    Though my vote doesn’t count here in NY, and waiting to cast my ballot today I felt as lonely as a soap salesman at an Occupy encampment, it felt good! I’m excited!


  89. 92 | November 6, 2012 2:47 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    @ John Difool:
    I’ve been a long admirer of the Amish!


  90. 93 | November 6, 2012 2:49 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I felt as lonely as a soap salesman at an Occupy encampment,

    It’s ok, it could have been worse, you could have felt as lonely as an honest thought in O’Bummer’s head… :shock:


  91. Speranza
    94 | November 6, 2012 2:50 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Though my vote doesn’t count here in NY, and waiting to cast my ballot today I felt as lonely as a soap salesman at an Occupy encampment, it felt good! I’m excited!

    I felt the exact same thing this morning in Manhattan. Screw the liberal idiots on line with me!


  92. Speranza
    95 | November 6, 2012 2:50 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Though my vote doesn’t count here in NY, and waiting to cast my ballot today I felt as lonely as a soap salesman at an Occupy encampment, it felt good! I’m excited!

    Your (and mine) vote against Obama always counts.


  93. Speranza
    96 | November 6, 2012 2:52 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?

    I drank Arrogant Bastard Ale once -- that has some kick to it!


  94. Lily
    97 | November 6, 2012 2:52 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?

    Maddog 20????? 8-)


  95. John Difool
    98 | November 6, 2012 2:52 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Though my vote doesn’t count here in NY, and waiting to cast my ballot today I felt as lonely as a soap salesman at an Occupy encampment, it felt good! I’m excited!

    Of course your vote counts. At the detriment of sounding like I’m exploiting a tragedy just how many Obama voters will stay home because of the post-havoc from Sandy or how many of them will vote for the GOP ticket out of pure spite from Obama & the Dems handling of the situation?

    Probably not even close enough for a win, but never say never.

    If anything, your vote may not count towards the electoral college, however it will indeed count to put Romney over the top in the popular vote if he manages to get that which I’m confident he will. An added plus if he also gets the electoral college.

    Here’s hoping against hope…..& change.


  96. momcat
    99 | November 6, 2012 2:54 pm

    Hillary Clinton has quite the knack for being as far away from Washington, DC as humanly possible whenever anything bad is about to happen to Democrats. Have you noticed this?

    Read more http://hillbuzz.org/

    * November 2nd, 2010 — While Democrats were being roasted by voters stateside in the Midterm elections, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton was dancing by a fire in Papua New Guinea having a pig roast on the beach. Laughing and smiling and laughing some more. I wonder what she named the pig before they cooked it?
    * September 4-6th, 2012 — During the bizarre yelling and shouting and baby-killing festival of anger that Democrats held in Charlotte, North Carolina (but called it their quadrennial “Convention”), Hillary was in the Cook Islands near New Zealand, having a wonderful time in tropical temperatures and smiling behind sunglasses…having nothing to do with the mess Democrats were making for themselves back home.
    * November 6th, 2012 — When Barack Obama and Democrats go down in defeat in the general election, Hillary will be in Perth, Australia enjoying her distance away in the Southern Hemisphere.
    COINCIDENCE?
    With Hillary Clinton there are no coincidences.


  97. Speranza
    100 | November 6, 2012 2:54 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    By that time, though, voting will be mostly over. We do have to watch for them calling a State while the polls are still open like they did Florida in 2000. That most likely cost Bush the popular vote. Like I said earlier, I’ve got no use for the presstiutes. They are scum, and should be treated like the scum they are. First off, since they like high taxes, tax them at 100% of their income. That’d take the sneer off Chrissy Matthews’ cocksucker…

    Also saving that 1976 DUI for Bush for the last three weeks of the campaign hurt. W. should have brought it out himself earlier in the campaign.


  98. 101 | November 6, 2012 2:55 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?

    I drank Arrogant Bastard Ale once — that has some kick to it!

    It clocks in at 7.2% not bad for an Ale. A bit strong on the taste for most people, very dark Ale it is.


  99. lobo91
    102 | November 6, 2012 2:56 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?

    I drank Arrogant Bastard Ale once — that has some kick to it!

    Ever tried Sam Adams Imperial White?

    It comes in a 4-pack for safety reasons.

    Due to legal restrictions, Samuel Adams Imperial White is not offered in the states of Idaho, Mississippi and South Carolina.


  100. 103 | November 6, 2012 2:56 pm

    Lily wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?

    Maddog 20?????

    Never heard of it…


  101. 104 | November 6, 2012 2:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Just got back from casting my vote for Romney/Ryan… It’s is now 7% time… *clink* Now serving Stone Brewery’s Arrogant Bastard Ale… Cause, well, what else would a former Rock Star from Southern California be drinking?
    I drank Arrogant Bastard Ale once — that has some kick to it!

    Ever tried Sam Adams Imperial White?
    It comes in a 4-pack for safety reasons.
    Due to legal restrictions, Samuel Adams Imperial White is not offered in the states of Idaho, Mississippi and South Carolina.

    Oh yea… That is an Ale that kicks… :grin:


  102. John Difool
    105 | November 6, 2012 2:57 pm

    You guys talking about the Arrogant Bastard Ale. Never had it, but perhaps I should go buy some.

    Because later on tonight if it looks for sure we’re gonna win, I plan on being a really arrogant bastard.


  103. 106 | November 6, 2012 2:59 pm

    WHere’s Ferb? On polling:

    To recap: A newspaper pays for a poll. It doesn’t like the look of the results. So it asks the pollster to reexamine them and alter them by changing his “weights.” He does so; he may agree with the call (as the Mason Dixon pollster says he does in the story) or he may be simply serving the interests of his paying client.

    And it will do so based on the partisan split—the very controversy that is dismissed so cavalierly by media types.

    We only know about this one because of the highly unusual circumstances of its revision. The question you have to ask yourself now is: How many times does this happen before a poll is published?

    This has been my point for some time. The partisan split is one of the ways (and only on eof the ways) the media are shaping the polls to give the results they want to present, not a true reflection of the state of the race. The CNN D+11 (11ty) poll is emblematic of this. Nowhere outside of the deepest blue polling places are you going to see a D+11 split, but that was the split CNN used to project a poll onto the entire nation. It is ludicrous. It was designed to make Obama look competitive, not to actually forecast what the real results will be. I figure if they are having to cook the polls to D+11 to make it competitive, that the voting is mostly a formality. There’s the off chance that the poll was just off the wall to begin with, but there is no chance that it is truly representative.


  104. lobo91
    107 | November 6, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Oh yea… That is an Ale that kicks…

    Most stores around here don’t carry it. I have to drive across town to get it.

    Not cheap, either. Last time I got some, it was $10.99 for a 4 pack (versus $8.99 for a 6 pack of most Sam Adams products).


  105. momcat
    108 | November 6, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ John Difool:

    rain loves that stuff


  106. heysoos
    109 | November 6, 2012 3:00 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    You guys talking about the Arrogant Bastard Ale. Never had it, but perhaps I should go buy some.
    Because later on tonight if it looks for sure we’re gonna win, I plan on being a really arrogant bastard.

    John Difool wrote:

    You guys talking about the Arrogant Bastard Ale. Never had it, but perhaps I should go buy some.
    Because later on tonight if it looks for sure we’re gonna win, I plan on being a really arrogant bastard.

    I might break out my 12ga fire crackers….got a bunch of trap shot to blow off


  107. John Difool
    110 | November 6, 2012 3:01 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Depending on where you live you may have to break ‘em out anyway.

    Got mine cleaned & at the ready.


  108. citizen_q
    111 | November 6, 2012 3:01 pm

    @ momcat:
    Sound like a pattern. Not sure what it means.

    OTOH, I want to know where she was and what was doing September 11-12, 2012, while our consulate (not sure if actually qualifies as a consulate, but that is how it is generally referred to) in Benghazi was being attacked and our people were begging for help and being murdered.


  109. 112 | November 6, 2012 3:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Oh yea… That is an Ale that kicks…
    Most stores around here don’t carry it. I have to drive across town to get it.
    Not cheap, either. Last time I got some, it was $10.99 for a 4 pack (versus $8.99 for a 6 pack of most Sam Adams products).

    Yup, it aint cheap, that’s for sure. Fortunately I can get it right across the street. When I can afford it that is.


  110. 113 | November 6, 2012 3:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    W. should have brought it out himself earlier in the campaign.

    Yeah, trying to hide it was stupid, and contributed to things being as close as they were. He should have discussed it in depth when he was talking about personal redemption on Oprah. It’d have became a non-issue. Almost everyone could have gotten busted for a DUI at some point in their lives. Most people are lucky, and nothing comes of it. Everyone could have related to him, though, and been understanding. Trying to hide it made him look sneaky instead of sympathetic. Dumb move, and we almost got President Al Gore out of it.


  111. John Difool
    114 | November 6, 2012 3:04 pm

    momcat wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    rain loves that stuff

    Sounds good but I’m thinking of running to the ABC store here in a bit for something a bit stronger.

    Will come in handy very later on no matter how things turn out…..either way.


  112. heysoos
    115 | November 6, 2012 3:04 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Depending on where you live you may have to break ‘em out anyway.
    Got mine cleaned & at the ready.

    I just shoot em into the barn out back…my shotgun is loaded and bedside every single night, even tho I live in a very quiet area…we’re all armed in my hood…
    BOOM BOOM!
    and my neighbors say, Heysoos is getting happy again…I love it down here


  113. 116 | November 6, 2012 3:05 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    You guys talking about the Arrogant Bastard Ale. Never had it, but perhaps I should go buy some.
    Because later on tonight if it looks for sure we’re gonna win, I plan on being a really arrogant bastard.

    Warning… It is a very strong Malt/Hops tasting Ale, IT IS NOT FOR THE MEEK. I only know of one other Ale that has a stronger more pungent Malt/Hops taste. And that is Green Flash Bottling Company’s “Palette Wrecker”.


  114. lobo91
    117 | November 6, 2012 3:06 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yup, it aint cheap, that’s for sure. Fortunately I can get it right across the street. When I can afford it that is.

    Unlike California, grocery stores in Colorado don’t sell liquor, wine, or beer over 3.2%, so you pretty much have to go to a liquor store here. There are loads of them, but most are pretty small.

    There’s a huge one a couple miles north of here that used to be a supermarket. They have just about everything known to man there.


  115. livefreeor die
    118 | November 6, 2012 3:06 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    I think Tingles will be in a straightjacket by tomorrow morning.
    Damn… Am I evil for hoping he decides to play Russian Roulette with a loaded 1911 on live Television?

    Only if you don’t share your beer.


  116. lobo91
    119 | November 6, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yeah, I’ve had it before and didn’t really care for it. I prefer the Imperial White.


  117. 120 | November 6, 2012 3:08 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    Depending on where you live you may have to break ‘em out anyway.
    Got mine cleaned & at the ready.

    I just shoot em into the barn out back…my shotgun is loaded and bedside every single night, even tho I live in a very quiet area…we’re all armed in my hood…
    BOOM BOOM!
    and my neighbors say, Heysoos is getting happy again…I love it down here

    Heh heh heh, I live in a rural unincorporated city in San Diego County, yea, it’s Southern California, and there are more guns here then people. Won’t be no rioting less someone wants to serious have a ventilation problem. Damn shame all my guns sank in a freak boating accident off the coast of Arizona though… :shock: :twisted:


  118. 121 | November 6, 2012 3:10 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Yeah, I’ve had it before and didn’t really care for it. I prefer the Imperial White.

    the Imperial White is damned good, a tad bit on the sweet side for me, I’m more of a Bitter Ale kind of guy, but the IW is damned good. :grin:


  119. lobo91
    122 | November 6, 2012 3:11 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I have some interesting 12 gauge duplex rounds.

    I wonder what a 67 caliber round ball at 1300 fps would do to a Obama voter rioter?


  120. livefreeor die
    123 | November 6, 2012 3:11 pm

    We have updated our ammo supply, the RV is ready to go if necessary, and we just got our three months worth of emergency food supplies.
    Bring it on, Philly.


  121. MikeA
    124 | November 6, 2012 3:12 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    That is amazing Dorian.. same thing happened to me except it was in Kansas… ;)

    And if anyone came to my neighborhood in PA and tried that, it would end very badly for them… very badly.


  122. heysoos
    125 | November 6, 2012 3:12 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    John Difool wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    Depending on where you live you may have to break ‘em out anyway.
    Got mine cleaned & at the ready.
    I just shoot em into the barn out back…my shotgun is loaded and bedside every single night, even tho I live in a very quiet area…we’re all armed in my hood…
    BOOM BOOM!
    and my neighbors say, Heysoos is getting happy again…I love it down here

    Heh heh heh, I live in a rural unincorporated city in San Diego County, yea, it’s Southern California, and there are more guns here then people. Won’t be no rioting less someone wants to serious have a ventilation problem. Damn shame all my guns sank in a freak boating accident off the coast of Arizona though…

    yer honor, it was like watching my friends die, deep sixed…I’ll never get over it…sir


  123. lobo91
    126 | November 6, 2012 3:12 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    The first time I tried it, I made the mistake of drinking three of them in less than an hour.

    About halfway through the third one is when it hit me.

    I never got to the 4th one that night…


  124. momcat
    127 | November 6, 2012 3:13 pm

    @ John Difool:
    we have stronger stiff covered


  125. gizbot7
    128 | November 6, 2012 3:14 pm

    Just got back from voting with the hubby. While waiting for him to finish, I overhead the women next to me talking about how few booths were there. One of them said there were many more at the “other place”. Trying not to read too much into it — should could have just gone with a friend/family member to a different station — but I still found that comment odd.


  126. 129 | November 6, 2012 3:15 pm

    This is interesting:

    Mitt Romney’s campaign is rolling out its experimental mobile app for getting out the vote Tuesday.

    Named after the killer whale, Project ORCA is an election day exit poll operation. Some 34,000 GOP volunteers in swing states will be taking exit polls and cataloging the results via smart phone or tablet.

    “From there, data will be interpreted and utilized to plan voter turnout tactics on Election Day,” Romney press secretary Andrea Saul said. “Project ORCA also allows us to filter out people who have already voted, remove those people from our phone banks, and adjust our efforts nationally through this method.”

    Cool! I hope this works for us. I really believe that the election will come down to who has the better get-out-the-vote effort, especially in the Swing States. Of course, Romney being up double-digits with independents isn’t going to hurt us any. We just need to mobilize our voters, and turne likely voters into voters.


  127. 130 | November 6, 2012 3:15 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    The first time I tried it, I made the mistake of drinking three of them in less than an hour.
    About halfway through the third one is when it hit me.
    I never got to the 4th one that night…

    I just lol’d in real life… Been there, done that, pretty much the same results… :grin:


  128. Speranza
    131 | November 6, 2012 3:15 pm

    gizbot7 wrote:

    Just got back from voting with the hubby. While waiting for him to finish, I overhead the women next to me talking about how few booths were there. One of them said there were many more at the “other place”. Trying not to read too much into it — should could have just gone with a friend/family member to a different station — but I still found that comment odd.

    It is a tad “cryptic”.


  129. 132 | November 6, 2012 3:17 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    gizbot7 wrote:
    Just got back from voting with the hubby. While waiting for him to finish, I overhead the women next to me talking about how few booths were there. One of them said there were many more at the “other place”. Trying not to read too much into it — should could have just gone with a friend/family member to a different station — but I still found that comment odd.

    It is a tad “cryptic”.

    Ya, kind of has a “There’s always more room in hell” sound to it… :shock:


  130. heysoos
    133 | November 6, 2012 3:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I have some interesting 12 gauge duplex rounds.
    I wonder what a 67 caliber round ball at 1300 fps would do to a Obama voter rioter?

    are those the 1oz slugs packed with 3 #00 pellets?


  131. lobo91
    134 | November 6, 2012 3:17 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I heard about that yesterday.

    Apparently, the Obama campaign has something called Narwhal, which is some kind of data-mining application.

    Narwhals are prey for Orcas.


  132. Speranza
    135 | November 6, 2012 3:18 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    W. should have brought it out himself earlier in the campaign.

    Yeah, trying to hide it was stupid, and contributed to things being as close as they were. He should have discussed it in depth when he was talking about personal redemption on Oprah. It’d have became a non-issue. Almost everyone could have gotten busted for a DUI at some point in their lives. Most people are lucky, and nothing comes of it. Everyone could have related to him, though, and been understanding. Trying to hide it made him look sneaky instead of sympathetic. Dumb move, and we almost got President Al Gore out of it.

    Had he mentioned it in the Spring of 2000 it would’ve been a non issue. W. blew the popular vote by sitting on a lead too soon and playing “run out the clock”.


  133. lobo91
    136 | November 6, 2012 3:18 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I just lol’d in real life… Been there, done that, pretty much the same results…

    I’m guessing their lawyers were behind the 4-pack deal.

    If someone managed to down 6 of them in one sitting, that could go badly.


  134. 137 | November 6, 2012 3:19 pm

    This was my neighborhood in 2008 celebrating Barry’s win.


  135. Speranza
    138 | November 6, 2012 3:20 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    If anything, your vote may not count towards the electoral college, however it will indeed count to put Romney over the top in the popular vote if he manages to get that which I’m confident he will.

    That’s the way I see it. If I cannot help him win the electoral college I want to help him win the popular vote.


  136. lobo91
    139 | November 6, 2012 3:20 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I have some interesting 12 gauge duplex rounds.
    I wonder what a 67 caliber round ball at 1300 fps would do to a Obama voter rioter?

    are those the 1oz slugs packed with 3 #00 pellets?

    That’s the Winchester PDX-1 round. I need to pick up some of those.

    These have a 67 caliber round ball and 3 #00 pellets.


  137. song_and_dance_man
    140 | November 6, 2012 3:20 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    You guys talking about the Arrogant Bastard Ale. Never had it, but perhaps I should go buy some.

    I haven’t had Iron Horse since the days when Trader Joe’s was a just a local outfit with just two stores in SoCal. It was beer heaven with the main floor stocked with Micro brew from across the country.


  138. Speranza
    141 | November 6, 2012 3:20 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    And all those hipsters are still unemployed.


  139. song_and_dance_man
    142 | November 6, 2012 3:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    WHere’s Ferb?

    Probably playing the latest X box game


  140. lobo91
    143 | November 6, 2012 3:22 pm

    Winchester PDX1


  141. song_and_dance_man
    144 | November 6, 2012 3:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Most stores around here don’t carry it. I have to drive across town to get it.

    Not cheap, either. Last time I got some, it was $10.99 for a 4 pack (versus $8.99 for a 6 pack of most Sam Adams products).

    New Belgium, who makes Fat Tire, brewed a cherry stout one year. I wish they would make it again.


  142. heysoos
    145 | November 6, 2012 3:24 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    I have some interesting 12 gauge duplex rounds.
    I wonder what a 67 caliber round ball at 1300 fps would do to a Obama voter rioter?
    are those the 1oz slugs packed with 3 #00 pellets?

    That’s the Winchester PDX-1 round. I need to pick up some of those.
    These have a 67 caliber round ball and 3 #00 pellets.

    either way, gonna need a cleanup crew, but those combo loads intrigue me…I want to shoot a few


  143. livefreeor die
    146 | November 6, 2012 3:25 pm

    Guys, sad news on a new thread just posted by coldwarrior.


  144. 147 | November 6, 2012 3:25 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Most stores around here don’t carry it. I have to drive across town to get it.
    Not cheap, either. Last time I got some, it was $10.99 for a 4 pack (versus $8.99 for a 6 pack of most Sam Adams products).
    New Belgium, who makes Fat Tire, brewed a cherry stout one year. I wish they would make it again.

    Dude… I’m from California… I strenuously object to Fruits being in or around my beer… If ya catch my drift… :shock:


  145. 148 | November 6, 2012 3:25 pm

    I have a 1878 Martini-Henry Francotte that shoots a .450/.577 with a bullet the size of my finger . . . I’m just afraid to pull the trigger!


  146. 149 | November 6, 2012 3:25 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    And all those hipsters are still unemployed.

    I heard that a lot of them headed back to Ohio to vote for Obama.


  147. taxfreekiller
    150 | November 6, 2012 3:26 pm

    Just talked to ms tfk, she is at the vote place as vote judge for the day, started at 6:00 getting ready, voters came and started at 7:00 and they end at 7:00 tonight I think, she will get done with the tab. and delivery of the votes at 8:30 or 9:00.

    The phone bank thing she has been running is still up and going.
    25 or so at one place and 15 to 20 ladies working out of homes on lap tops ect. They are re-calling people who said they would vote to make sure they did get out and vote.

    full court press to the last hour


  148. song_and_dance_man
    151 | November 6, 2012 3:26 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    I only know of one other Ale that has a stronger more pungent Malt/Hops taste. And that is Green Flash Bottling Company’s “Palette Wrecker”.

    aladam, just reading the % makes me mouth water.


  149. John Difool
    152 | November 6, 2012 3:26 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I know exit-polling data is mostly bullshit but a lot of the early exit-polling data coming from the Romney camp is looking very positive right now, especially in Co & Ohio. They seem very fired-up & enthused right now.

    Might sound partisan but I trust this data a whole helluva lot more than anything the DLSM is putting out or will be putting out later on.

    On a side-note, Axelturd was on earlier saying Romney & Ryan last minute campaigning in Ohio on election day of all days was an unclassy desperation move.

    Just so happened Joe Bidens plane taxied right by the R&R plane on the tarmac in Cleveland shortly after.

    When Stef Cutter was asked about this by CNN of all outlets why this was, especially after Axe’ comments, she said he was there to oversee the GOTV efforts & the operation on the ground there & nothing more.

    GOTV efforts & operation on the ground of course meaning campaigning since he showed up giving a speech at a campaign event in Cleveland shortly after.

    HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa.


  150. 153 | November 6, 2012 3:27 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I have a 1878 Martini-Henry Francotte that shoots a .450/.577 with a bullet the size of my finger . . . I’m just afraid to pull the trigger!

    No kidding… That sucker will probably dislocate your shoulder… :shock:


  151. heysoos
    154 | November 6, 2012 3:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Winchester PDX1

    good grief…that is pretty serious


  152. song_and_dance_man
    155 | November 6, 2012 3:28 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Unlike California, grocery stores in Colorado don’t sell liquor, wine, or beer over 3.2%, so you pretty much have to go to a liquor store here. There are loads of them, but most are pretty small.

    And here, unlike CA, you can buy liquor at a convenience store. They also still have outdated Blue law.


  153. 156 | November 6, 2012 3:29 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    I have a 1878 Martini-Henry Francotte that shoots a .450/.577 with a bullet the size of my finger . . . I’m just afraid to pull the trigger!
    No kidding… That sucker will probably dislocate your shoulder…

    It certainly dislocated a bunch of Zulus, Afghanis, Pakis and Hindus in its day.


  154. gizbot7
    157 | November 6, 2012 3:29 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    gizbot7 wrote:
    Just got back from voting with the hubby. While waiting for him to finish, I overhead the women next to me talking about how few booths were there. One of them said there were many more at the “other place”. Trying not to read too much into it — should could have just gone with a friend/family member to a different station — but I still found that comment odd.

    It is a tad “cryptic”.

    Ya, kind of has a “There’s always more room in hell” sound to it…

    You ain’t kidding. Then, I saw the maybe 15 year old take my husbands card (here, we have to put a card into the machine that tallies our votes) to the people checking us in. When I submitted my card, they told me to put it into a box nowhere near the check in station. Note, I am a registered R and he is a registered D (although he votes R) and they know your affiliation before you vote per the little receipt that prints out all of your information (which you have to sign) and then give to the guy who leads you to a machine. And shocka! No ID required here.

    I think I may be just be paranoid in a state where it doesn’t really matter anyway. Sigh.


  155. 158 | November 6, 2012 3:29 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    I only know of one other Ale that has a stronger more pungent Malt/Hops taste. And that is Green Flash Bottling Company’s “Palette Wrecker”.
    aladam, just reading the % makes me mouth water.

    Oh.. If you like really strong flavored beer, it’s some really good stuff… IF you can get it… It’s brewed right here in San Diego, BUT it’s seasonal… :sad:


  156. heysoos
    159 | November 6, 2012 3:30 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I have a 1878 Martini-Henry Francotte that shoots a .450/.577 with a bullet the size of my finger . . . I’m just afraid to pull the trigger!

    don’t…have a smith go over it first…sounds like a nice old piece


  157. 160 | November 6, 2012 3:31 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Unlike California, grocery stores in Colorado don’t sell liquor, wine, or beer over 3.2%, so you pretty much have to go to a liquor store here. There are loads of them, but most are pretty small.
    And here, unlike CA, you can buy liquor at a convenience store. They also still have outdated Blue law.

    ROTFLMAO… the little town I live in has more liqueur stores than convenience store… BWAHAHAHAH… And we only have 5 liqueur stores….. :grin:


  158. lobo91
    161 | November 6, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ heysoos:

    either way, gonna need a cleanup crew, but those combo loads intrigue me…I want to shoot a few

    Winchester makes another new round that I want to try, called the PDX1 Defender. It’s a “segmented slug” that breaks into three pieces on impact.

    It’s apparently the ultimate round for killing zombie watermelons.


  159. 162 | November 6, 2012 3:32 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Democrats always project. That’s why Howard the Dick was worrying about voter fraud earlier. Projection.


  160. song_and_dance_man
    163 | November 6, 2012 3:32 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Damn shame all my guns sank in a freak boating accident off the coast of Arizona though…

    Next time use a bigger boat.


  161. song_and_dance_man
    164 | November 6, 2012 3:34 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Dude… I’m from California… I strenuously object to Fruits being in or around my beer… If ya catch my drift…

    but, but…this one was cherry.

    *drift carried on*


  162. heysoos
    165 | November 6, 2012 3:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    either way, gonna need a cleanup crew, but those combo loads intrigue me…I want to shoot a few
    Winchester makes another new round that I want to try, called the PDX1 Defender. It’s a “segmented slug” that breaks into three pieces on impact.
    It’s apparently the ultimate round for killing zombie watermelons.

    commie watermellons!
    Mail Call


  163. Buckeye Abroad
    166 | November 6, 2012 3:36 pm

    Any suggestions regarding what source to watch as the states are called? I don’t want to watch CNN on my side of the pond.


  164. 167 | November 6, 2012 3:36 pm

    @ gizbot7:

    We have voter ID. No picture ID, no vote. Period. Lots of different types of ID are valid, including your carry permit, but you have to have a picture ID or you don’t get to vote. That is theway it should be everywhere. Like I said earlier, voter fraud is theft from all of us who vote legally. It shouldn’t be a partisan issue. That it is tells you which side plans to use voter fraud as part of their national strategy. The Democrats should get hit with a RICO warrent.


  165. 168 | November 6, 2012 3:37 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Damn shame all my guns sank in a freak boating accident off the coast of Arizona though…
    Next time use a bigger boat.

    It was a 65 foot cabin cruiser for allahdamn sake… :twisted:


  166. 169 | November 6, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    We’ll no doubt live-blog it unless Blogmocracy goes down. I have no idea what options y’all have over there. I wouldn’t watch anything but Fox, though, if that were an option.


  167. song_and_dance_man
    170 | November 6, 2012 3:38 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oh.. If you like really strong flavored beer, it’s some really good stuff… IF you can get it… It’s brewed right here in San Diego, BUT it’s seasonal…

    I like high % beer. And when I drink hard stuff it’s always rum or gin. I sip it like it should be and never drink it mixed. Losing the taste for some sugary additive is not the way it should be done.


  168. John Difool
    171 | November 6, 2012 3:38 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Any suggestions regarding what source to watch as the states are called? I don’t want to watch CNN on my side of the pond.

    I don’t want to see any fucking on-air pundits tonight so I’m sticking with the blogs.


  169. song_and_dance_man
    172 | November 6, 2012 3:39 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Any suggestions regarding what source to watch as the states are called? I don’t want to watch CNN on my side of the pond.

    I’m gonna watch either CNN or MSNBC just for the desperate clown factor.


  170. heysoos
    173 | November 6, 2012 3:40 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh.. If you like really strong flavored beer, it’s some really good stuff… IF you can get it… It’s brewed right here in San Diego, BUT it’s seasonal…
    I like high % beer. And when I drink hard stuff it’s always rum or gin. I sip it like it should be and never drink it mixed. Losing the taste for some sugary additive is not the way it should be done.

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh.. If you like really strong flavored beer, it’s some really good stuff… IF you can get it… It’s brewed right here in San Diego, BUT it’s seasonal…
    I like high % beer. And when I drink hard stuff it’s always rum or gin. I sip it like it should be and never drink it mixed. Losing the taste for some sugary additive is not the way it should be done.

    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap


  171. 174 | November 6, 2012 3:43 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh.. If you like really strong flavored beer, it’s some really good stuff… IF you can get it… It’s brewed right here in San Diego, BUT it’s seasonal…
    I like high % beer. And when I drink hard stuff it’s always rum or gin. I sip it like it should be and never drink it mixed. Losing the taste for some sugary additive is not the way it should be done.

    Meh, I don’t drink hard alcohol (yea, my Scottish Ancestors would probably be ashamed of me) but I love me a strong pungent ale… Not so enamored of the sweet ones.


  172. song_and_dance_man
    175 | November 6, 2012 3:43 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    It was a 65 foot cabin cruiser for allahdamn sake…

    Well then, find a smaller lake.

    /;-)


  173. John Difool
    176 | November 6, 2012 3:45 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:
    Any suggestions regarding what source to watch as the states are called? I don’t want to watch CNN on my side of the pond.

    I’m gonna watch either CNN or MSNBC just for the desperate clown factor.

    I expect a lot of Baghdad Bobbery at those places tonight.


  174. 177 | November 6, 2012 3:45 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    It was a 65 foot cabin cruiser for allahdamn sake…
    Well then, find a smaller lake.
    /;-)

    What lake? it was in the middle of the Pacific Ocean… :twisted:


  175. huckfunn
    178 | November 6, 2012 3:46 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I just saw this nifty item the other day. A bump stock. Gives your AR15 full auto capability and it’s totally legal.


  176. 179 | November 6, 2012 3:46 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    It was a 65 foot cabin cruiser for allahdamn sake…
    Well then, find a smaller lake.
    /;-)

    What lake? it was in the middle of the Pacific Ocean…

    Just off the coast of Phoenix Arizona… :evil:


  177. song_and_dance_man
    180 | November 6, 2012 3:49 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap

    When I was younger I would have partied with you. The porcelain bus was not my objective, but it was a probability.


  178. 181 | November 6, 2012 3:50 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    You’ve got a stronger constitution than me. Or more patience. I’d beat my TV to death if I had to watch those morons. Keep us informed of the buffoonery. I hope to be gloating before the night is through. I am afraid that may take a while, though. We’ll see who falls when, but I expect them to hold off calling Romney States for as long as they can. That’s been their MO for the last several elections.


  179. heysoos
    182 | November 6, 2012 3:53 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap
    When I was younger I would have partied with you. The porcelain bus was not my objective, but it was a probability.

    I might exaggerate once in a while bro…but still..I’ve really enjoyed my devolution…I finally understand cause and effect, fire, and liberal ideology…in a few months, I should qualify for my Knuckle Dragger badge


  180. 183 | November 6, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Damn… Pretty cool…


  181. John Difool
    184 | November 6, 2012 3:54 pm

    Oh now this is just rich:

    U.N. Election Observers Amazed No I.D.’s required To Vote In U.S. Elections

    That right there should be enough to convince them the U.S. doesn’t have free & fair elections anymore…..but it won’t.I’m sure they’re all for it.


  182. song_and_dance_man
    185 | November 6, 2012 3:54 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Remember this?


  183. 186 | November 6, 2012 3:55 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap
    When I was younger I would have partied with you. The porcelain bus was not my objective, but it was a probability.

    I try to make it my mission in life to not visit the great white porcelain throne… :shock:


  184. 187 | November 6, 2012 3:56 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Remember this?

    ROTFLMAO…. Haven’t heard that in like FOREVER…. :lol: :lol:


  185. The Osprey
    188 | November 6, 2012 3:57 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    I have a 1878 Martini-Henry Francotte that shoots a .450/.577 with a bullet the size of my finger . . . I’m just afraid to pull the trigger!
    No kidding… That sucker will probably dislocate your shoulder…

    It certainly dislocated a bunch of Zulus, Afghanis, Pakis and Hindus in its day.

    Colonialism! :lol:


  186. song_and_dance_man
    189 | November 6, 2012 3:58 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I hope to be gloating before the night is through.

    And that, for me, is the attraction. If, by the time it is decisive, or close to it, and we are not going to win I will shut the whole thing down.


  187. heysoos
    190 | November 6, 2012 3:58 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap
    When I was younger I would have partied with you. The porcelain bus was not my objective, but it was a probability.

    I try to make it my mission in life to not visit the great white porcelain throne…

    I am the Throne Keeper…to enter you must Pass the Holy Taint…behold!


  188. huckfunn
    191 | November 6, 2012 3:59 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Damn… Pretty cool…

    You’d be the life of the party with one of those. :grin:


  189. gizbot7
    192 | November 6, 2012 4:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ gizbot7:

    We have voter ID. No picture ID, no vote. Period. Lots of different types of ID are valid, including your carry permit, but you have to have a picture ID or you don’t get to vote. That is theway it should be everywhere. Like I said earlier, voter fraud is theft from all of us who vote legally. It shouldn’t be a partisan issue. That it is tells you which side plans to use voter fraud as part of their national strategy. The Democrats should get hit with a RICO warrent.

    They ask your name, address, month and day of birth. That’s it. Things you can find going through the trash. Frightening in its implications.


  190. 193 | November 6, 2012 4:01 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    Damn… Pretty cool…

    You’d be the life of the party with one of those.

    Unfortunately I don’t have a Bushmaster AR15… Just an old Colt… :sad:


  191. 194 | November 6, 2012 4:02 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    Damn… Pretty cool…
    You’d be the life of the party with one of those.

    Unfortunately I don’t have a Bushmaster AR15… Just an old Colt…

    Oops… I meant to say HAD an old colt… It’s now tragically at the bottom of the pacific ocean just off the coast of Phoenix Arizona… :shock: freak Boating accident… :twisted:


  192. heysoos
    195 | November 6, 2012 4:02 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap
    When I was younger I would have partied with you. The porcelain bus was not my objective, but it was a probability.
    I try to make it my mission in life to not visit the great white porcelain throne…

    I am the Throne Keeper…to enter you must Pass the Holy Taint…behold!

    and there were the shit of my own upon my hands that smeared not upon those around me…
    ancient Liberal truism


  193. huckfunn
    196 | November 6, 2012 4:03 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    Damn… Pretty cool…

    You’d be the life of the party with one of those.

    Unfortunately I don’t have a Bushmaster AR15… Just an old Colt…

    I’ve got a Mini-14 but I can’t find anyone who makes a bump stock for it.


  194. John Difool
    197 | November 6, 2012 4:04 pm

    Entering meat & potatoes time in swing states for GOP turnout.

    Or nail-in-the-coffin-time if Mitt is tied or slightly ahead in them.


  195. 198 | November 6, 2012 4:04 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    I drink for effect…give me a 200yr old cognac and I’ll gargle it like a PBR…to hell with all the other crap
    When I was younger I would have partied with you. The porcelain bus was not my objective, but it was a probability.
    I try to make it my mission in life to not visit the great white porcelain throne…
    I am the Throne Keeper…to enter you must Pass the Holy Taint…behold!

    and there were the shit of my own upon my hands that smeared not upon those around me…
    ancient Liberal truism

    Sorry I am afflicted with the dreaded John Wayne Syndrome… I wont take shit off of anybody… :twisted:


  196. song_and_dance_man
    199 | November 6, 2012 4:05 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    in a few months, I should qualify for my Knuckle Dragger badge

    Welcome to the Bitter Clinger’s of America


  197. 200 | November 6, 2012 4:07 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    huckfunn wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    Damn… Pretty cool…
    You’d be the life of the party with one of those.
    Unfortunately I don’t have a Bushmaster AR15… Just an old Colt…

    I’ve got a Mini-14 but I can’t find anyone who makes a bump stock for it.

    How do you manage to survive not knowing any machinists?


  198. song_and_dance_man
    201 | November 6, 2012 4:11 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oops… I meant to say HAD an old colt… It’s now tragically at the bottom of the pacific ocean just off the coast of Phoenix Arizona… :shock: freak Boating accident…

    I’ve never seen a horse drown/


  199. Daffy Duck
    202 | November 6, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    You ever try a Hellfire on it?

    Or, you could just switch to AK-47 / 74 -- you can “bump-fire” them without needing any add-on gadgets (at least, that’s the case w/ the Romanian SAR-1 & -2).


  200. 203 | November 6, 2012 4:11 pm

    OK….. time to get this party started…. Dedicated to Barack Insane Obama…


  201. Bob-Crotchit
    204 | November 6, 2012 4:13 pm

    There is a bunk thread upstairs.

    *Rodan must be shopping*


  202. bluliner10
    205 | November 6, 2012 4:33 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Ironic that Dave Mustaine is pulling for Mitt Romney now. A big shift the days of Reaganangst and the new normal of autocratic rule.


  203. Buckeye Abroad
    206 | November 6, 2012 4:35 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Any suggestions regarding what source to watch as the states are called? I don’t want to watch CNN on my side of the pond.

    I’m gonna watch either CNN or MSNBC just for the desperate clown factor.

    My options are limited. CNN will be screaming “its close” up until the last minute of Romneys inaugration ceremony. We moved recently and I have no internet accept for my work wireless and it is sloooowwwwwwww. I’m hopeing I won have to stay up all night, but want to see how the east coast cruises-- especially Ohio (btw.. Buckeyes are undefeated….cough).


  204. Buckeye Abroad
    207 | November 6, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    From my acquintances in South Africa, Zulus have a pretty good reputation believe it or not.


  205. 208 | November 6, 2012 6:43 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    I have a 1878 Martini-Henry Francotte that shoots a .450/.577 with a bullet the size of my finger . . . I’m just afraid to pull the trigger!

    No kidding… That sucker will probably dislocate your shoulder…

    Intended to stop large dangerous game. Dislocating your shoulder would be an acceptable risk in that situation.


  206. TolerantT
    209 | November 6, 2012 7:21 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    You folks on the west coast probably already know this, but if not, you should check out the rarely heard, and many times overlooked; Single Shot Exemption rule (SSE) in the great state of California. I would provide some links from a Gun Dealer or two I use, but don’t know the rules about stuff like that on this Blog. Just google it, and you will see the wealth of information. Just a thought.


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