Though Obama failed to win a majority in the popular vote–and may even have lost the popular vote outright–he won enough votes in the Electoral College to claim victory. The same constitutional peculiarity that brought George W. Bush into office in 2000 may have returned Obama to the White House.
The voters also re-affirmed the results of the historic Tea Party election of 2010, returning Republicans to power in the House of Representatives. And yet the voters also retained Democrats in control of the Senate, preserving the results of the anti-war wave election of 2006.
The U.S. Congress is now divided between two parties whose members were elected on platforms of protest, each determined to stop the other from pursuing its policies.
…
But it need not be an era without hope. The same principles that built this Republic can save it again. Indeed, those timeless principles are the only solution, the only vision.
Our fault, as a nation, was to forget the lessons of our own success. Having triumphed in a global, decades-long struggle against collectivism and totalitarianism, we refused to celebrate that victory, failing for twenty years to teach its lessons to the next generation.
And as Andrew Breitbart often reminded us, the most important battles must be cultural ones, because culture and media inevitably shape the political choices we make together.
That war must begin anew. And it begins now.
@rightwingnerd Was despondent last night but a friend reminded me of our soldiers and how they deal with adversity and I was justly #shamed
— katieomalley (@katieomalley) November 7, 2012
Rubio 2016.
Iron Fist wrote:
Just hoping we can hang on as a nation until 2016. Not sure the fight hasn’t been taken out of many!
50.3% of voters apparently want a big gov’t entitlement society.
Goes to show that America is in decline.
Iron Fist wrote:
Rubio is not moderate enough.
Chris Christie would be interesting, since republicans can sell him as man of action
@ ferb123:
26 trillion and counting
No nation has ever continued on with fake currency. None.
waldensianspirit wrote:
26 trillion ???
@ ferb123:
Yes 16.4 plus what is coming next; another 10 trillion onto the USA debt.
This is the single issue I care about but your side won’t even converse about it
Yesterday tells me we are clearly outnumbered. Willing or unwilling, the productive are simply hosts for the parasites. We can’t currently supply them with enough blood which necessitates the need to borrow from China. And, our numbers are dwindling. Time for a good guy flea dip.
ferb123 wrote:
That blowhard who grew up in Livingston and Mendham (two tony cities) New Jersey trying to sound as if he is from Hoboken will never be forgiven for his Obama boot licking.
Brick wrote:
Little Shop of Horrors
ferb123 wrote:
Deck chairs. Titanic.
Iron Fist wrote:
Too soon to start annointing a candidate.
One thing for sure -- no more Santorum types.
And here is a visual for the morning.
Brick wrote:
Spot on.
Game over.
Go to your local Wal-Mart or your local mall, “The People of Wal-Mart” are Obama’s constituency, not because of Wal-Mart, but because a good portion of our population have been so dumbed-down by a worthless education system, then coddled and subsidized by government that they’ve lost all hope of achieving anything. Instead of using the bully pulpit of the Presidency to break the tragic cycle of black children and the dissolution of the black family, he’s glorified the destructive culture in order to get their votes. He capitalizes on the misery of every single “interest group” that comprises his constituency by highlighting grievance instead of actual unity. He doesn’t lift people up, he reenforces their victimhood.
He’s not graduated from his “community organizer” (rabble rouser) roots, he just has a nicer office and title.
I heard a caller on Boortz suggest Republicans go along with Obozo for the next two years, to show just how bad things will be under the vision he has.
I can see that, on one hand, it’d mean that Obama couldn’t blame the right for the inevitable failure of Democratic-Socialist policies. OTOH, it’d make it even harder to trust anyone to be a real fiscal conservative after we’d aided in destroying this nation even further.
mfhorn wrote:
I think we need total separation from the coming disaster.
waldensianspirit wrote:
That’s why Zimbabwe no longer HAS a currency.
Ironically, they are using US dollars.
Out of the frying pan…
America is now a cargo cult.
Wheeeeeeeeee……. Are we having fun yet……
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the MSM, unions and Wall Street choose the president…votes are just the chits that prove their stranglehold on all of us
mfhorn wrote:
simply boycott Obama does not help the GOP. It makes the GOP even look worse.
To gain reputation the House of Representatives should cooperate with Obama.
ferb123 wrote:
Cooperate where it is good for the nation, not to help in the destruction of America though.
@ ferb123:
But why cooperate with the destruction of America? That’d be like drilling holes in the bottom of a boat that’s already leaking.
@ doriangrey:
I hope to accurately time the false-rebound-before-the-final-plunge to cash-out 401K.
/gawd, I *hope* there is a false-rebound….
@ Daffy Duck:
I’m thinking of converting everything to gold.
My wife would LOVE that! Rings. Necklaces.
mfhorn wrote:
right there is the root of the problem…people are too stupid to understand what is happening or they just don’t care….ferb is their poster boy
@ mfhorn:
See Brick’s #12…we’re not on a leaky boat anymore; the bulkheads have failed.
/ I can do Titanic analogies all day.
mfhorn wrote:
Go along for four years, and that’s an entire four years without standing up for/articulating any conservative principle whatsoever. The public, which already in many cases rejects clear enunciation of a conservative principle as if they are being talked to in Estonian, is not going to be able to comprehend conservatism if it is not placed before them for four years. And the entire country will be on some kind of dole by then.
“That war must begin anew. And it begins now.”
WOLVERINES !
heysoos wrote:
Ignorance has become our currency, I offer popular TV as hard evidence. We’re increasingly a coarse, uniformed, society that actually revels in our stupidity.
@ mfhorn:
Good plan. And don’t forget steel, lead, and brass -- “the other precious metals.”
And toilet paper.
Lots of toilet paper.
By the way I cannot understand why anyone would listen to anything Dick Morris predicts any more.
Obama’s victory last night was Pyrrhic, it is going up in flames right this moment… Dow -350 NASDAQ -80
MacDuff wrote:
MacDuff wrote:
AmIdol bots…been saying that for years
MacDuff wrote:
I’m a retail clerk, though not at WalMart.
Not that it matters.
I see that type of customer every day.
@ Daffy Duck:
Ok. Titanic analogy: Putting another 300′ gash in the side.
doriangrey wrote:
No surprise. He already proved himself to be a Pyrrhick of the first magnitude in the first four years.
Noreaster lashing areas hit hard by Sandy.
Yesterday I would have felt sorry for them but from here on out I’ll be reveling in what ever misery comes their way.
That goes for my state to.
MacDuff wrote:
Here’s a post from HA that I tend to agree with:
Rapid failure will end the misery sooner.
@ 1389AD:
I can relate. I do phone sales for a life insurance company (warm call) and the number of people who think you should be able to get $10,000 in coverage with no health questions for less than $20/month at age 60 or 70 is nuts.
I’ve had people asking for as much as 1.2 million in life insurance with no health questions.
doriangrey wrote:
1/6 of the economy is doomed within the next two years anyway when Obamacare goes into full effect. 2/6 if you count the American auto industry who are moving overseas as fast as they can shutter the doors.
Looks like they’re getting it out of the way early.
1389AD wrote:
It’s like a zombie apocalypse, they just don’t get it, even when it’s explained to them. I posted these same paragraphs on Facebook and received a comment:
“I love WalMart….”
I rest my case. She didn’t get that it wasn’t about Wal-Mart at all (even though I expressly said that). God help us.
Two days. That’s how long we have to mourn. Then we need to get up, dust off, and get ready.
We have two years to get our asses going and field some candidates that we would be proud to vote for.
First we need to primary everyone. I don’t care if they are conservative or RINO. Primary them all. If they can’t handle the heat they have no business being our candidate.
Second make sure the damn house holds the Presidents feet to the fire every f-ing second of every day for the next two years.
Third. Block everything that has even the slightest hint of pork or left agenda. Let nothing pass that doesn’t meet the smell test.
Fourth. Tell people why these things are being blocked. Don’t just hope for the best. Get on whatever media will take you even if it’s just Fox. (Fox btw has a huge liberal following, so it isn’t just preaching to the choir.)
Fifth. Stop with the blame assigning. The problem isn’t within the Romney camp or anything like that. The problem is with the media. They are the enemy. Not opposition, not biased. They are directly working against the interests of the country. Taking the fight directly to them will get airtime with them, and will let you get information out. Kissing up does no good. Create an antagonistic relationship with them, they can’t shut up and will want to fight.
6. Do not let Benghazi go. Even though impeachment in the Senate will not happen, go through the process in the House. Get it out there so people know exactly what happened.
7. Do not let fast and furious go. Get the emails, get them out to the people let them see for themselves.
This is just my two cents. Not that anyone in politics has the balls to do any of it anymore.
MacDuff wrote:
I don’t think God has any intention in helping us.
@ Daffy Duck:
I would agree the best medicine is more misery to shock the masses awake, however keep in mind they’ve had around 20% unemployment, $10 a gallon gas, crushing inflation & burdensome tax rates in Europe for years and those idiots keep putting socialists into power every election.
I do believe the general voting public here have become as they are abroad, insane- because that is the pure definition of insanity.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Well, instead of 4 years, just say ‘Ok, to show you that Democratic Socialism isn’t the answer, we’re going to give you two years of what the President wants. We’ll show you, over the next 2 years, that big government handouts aren’t the answer. That they’ll only result in massive deficits, higher unemployment, and loss of real wages. Then, after you’ve had 2 years of that, during the next mid-terms, you can judge based on what’s happening.
Again, I don’t agree with the idea 100%, but it’s interesting.
Daffy Duck wrote:
It gains us nothing other than further blurring the line. It will leave the people in the nation (especially the “independents” more confused than they are now.)
Then they really will have a case with their “both parties are the same” crap that I have to hear all the fucking time.
doriangrey wrote:
Yeah, we’ve pretty much torched that bridge……..
My state went for Romney. Then guess what they did. They voted for the most radical partisan liberal lineup in the history of my state.
Right across the fucking board.
Then they went and voted for all the conservative ballot initiatives except for one.
People are confused. They are not being told the truth about anything anymore on the media and have no clue which party does what.
All they know is what the press tells them.
MacDuff wrote:
Never assume his punishing us isn’t in fact, helping us.
You wanna know why we’re an obese society? Because we’re eating the bread and watching the circuses.
@ mfhorn:
Two years—that is to say, as a prelude to the Congressional elections—makes some sense.
And, by the way, I am in a mood to slug anyone who describes themself as an “independent.” “Independent” is the political equivalent of being a Reform Jew who doesn’t have the guts to become a Unitarian.
John Difool wrote:
God IS not punishing us, he is leaving us to our own devices.
Just every day read the national debt into congressional records.
I’ll bet Israel feels as if they may as well be on the outer fringes of another galaxy right now, they are so alone.
I feel sorry for us, but I really feel sorry for them.
doriangrey wrote:
Which is what he should do…He only promised us salvation If we believe in him. Not prosperity here on earth. That he left for us to choose!
I going to have to take my Romney sticker off of my car -- if I encounter some triumphal ObamaBot with a smart-ass remark, I may find myself in jail for assault. Or worse.
MacDuff wrote:
I plan on leaving mine on until they dry-rot or fade away. When the misery & malaise index gets past the redline mark within the next few years I want it there as a reminder for those who voted for more of it & for those who didn’t bother to vote at all.
…America our nation has been beaten by strangers who have turned our language inside out who have taken the clean words our fathers spoke and made them slimy and foul…
we stand defeated America
—John Dos Passos
And one added thing. If and when we regain control. We have to redesign the Electoral College.
I’ve reviewed the maps and the county by county breakdown s and the EC does not reflect the will of the people accurately. We can’t just keep assigning all the votes based on who wins the state. That’s just setting all of us Dem and republican alike up for a big mess down the road.
Plus it puts all the power in the hands of the cities and as O would say “disenfranchises” the rural areas.
(And this isn’t new for me. I also spoke out against the design of the EC after the Bush/Gore debacle. Even though I approved of the way it turned out, we shouldn’t have been in the mess in the first place.)
I may not be popular for saying this, but the GOP needs to enter the 21st century. America has changed and the GOP needs to change its approach to winning elections. They need to broaden the base.
Romney ran the best he could, but the country has changed and his campaign was based on the assumption this is the same country as recently as the 90′s.
One thing, the GOP needs to adopt the tactics of Saul Alinsky. It’s time to play the Left’s game. The media needs to be treated as an enemy entity. They are part of the DNC. We need to recruit charismatic people who can appeal on TV and for low information voters.
I can write more but will not since most people will disagree with what I think needs to be done.
I am dedicating myself now to defeating Chris Cristie in 2013. I will do a post on that.
Mars wrote:
I think the EC should be proportional.
MacDuff wrote:
Not worth it.
No my change would be anybody with property and paying taxes votes
OK, we all know the media is the enemy, so what are you going to do about? Starve the beast, dammit! Cancel your cable TV. Cancel your newspaper, and any magazine subscriptions from publishers allied to the lamestream media. Be sure to tell them why.
Stop going to movies. That’s just putting money in the hands of the Donks. Maybe if Clint Eastwood produces a movie, or somebody else with good conservative credentials does, go watch it. But don’t watch Disney, or any of the usual Hollywood crap. If you want to watch, download a pirate copy from a torrent site. You know that’s what many of the 47% do anyway, why should you subsidize their thefts by being a paying customer?
If your Internet provider is allied to the MSM, find another one, or consider banding together with other like-minded people and starting your own.
I’ve heard talk about the Feds simply confiscating money in 401k’s to pay for their deficits, so if you are lucky enough to have one, it would be smart to keep abreast of this issue, and do what you can to make it possible to cash out in a huge hurry if this should come to pass.
waldensianspirit wrote:
That attitude will not win us voters. We need to compete with the Dems for voters. We need to deal with reality and come up with a new strategy.
Rodan wrote:
Well if you change the EC then the Dems will win every time because every Dem in the blues will vote
ferb123 wrote:
Can you just shut the F up for once? I have unfortunately scrolled through your crap for a while now, and gotta tell ya — you are nothing more than an imbecilic ass.
ferb123 wrote:
Chris Cristie is dead politically. He will lose in 2013.
Rodan wrote:
I’ve been saying for years the right needs to adopt Alinsky tactics & it’s been met with mostly chagrin by the folks who still thing putting on the bow-tie & playing the nice guy will win you the day, it won’t.
Some on the right get it, like Andrew Brietbart did & James O’Keefe & most of the other Breitbart folks but that mentality needs to trickle up to the GOP establishment.
ferb123 wrote:
The Republicans can sell him by the pound and build a giant war chest for the next bout. There appear to be plenty of Democrats who’d love to munch his ass.
Report: Obama May Levy Carbon Tax To Cut U.S. Deficit…
A guy from Powerline writes
waldensianspirit wrote:
And the revanchist regime shifts to high gear.
Well I’m off to start on Flyovercountry’s advice… Time to start drinking heavily.
Rodan wrote:
You’re not wrong. But, here’s the rub. Read Alinsky. It is impossible to adopt his tactics without domination of the media.
Plus go on twitter, read the comments to every conservative in Hollywood who came out. Read the death threats the libs have been pouring on Romney.
We are dealing with a country of children who only want as much free stuff as possible.
Soros came out today and was gloating like a bloated toad. I would imagine he begins his process of destroying our currency tomorrow at the latest.
Speranza wrote:
We are living through the Fall of the Roman Empire: PartII
waldensianspirit wrote:
I have a major problem with that. I can’t afford property and I can’t find work in order to pay taxes. But hey I gave up my health and well being to serve my country so fuck me I guess.
@ Speranza:
No. They aren’t looking to be better off in 4 years. They are looking for you to be worse off every year
Speranza wrote:
As a commentor on my blog pointed out, it wasn’t de Tocqueville that said that. It was Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle Of Democracy (1770)
We are all carbon now.
Mars wrote:
The jobs would come right back
@ Mars:
Assuming he isn’t on top of it today.
There is no uncertainty in the markets right now & there won’t be for the next 3 years. In fact, the markets are so certain right now they are taking a deep plunge & taking the dollar with it.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Not quite sure where you see that. County by county breakdown shows the Republicans would have won the EC quite easily this time around. ALL the blue was centered on the cities.
@ Mars:
Dem vote is less in California, New York etc because it is too easy for them; not all have to show up.
@ Mars:
We adopt their tactics.
I want to write more but it would cause too much controversy. The fact is the GOP needs to realize the nation has changed and adapt.
One thing, we need to treat the media as enemy #1.
On what God is doing.
We are so much better off than 90% of the earth so he is doing his work were it is most needed. He also invented personal responsibility and will hold U.S. to that, as he should.
Rodan wrote:
I owe you an apology, Rodan. Awhile back I gave you a raft of shit about you wanting Americans to suffer to teach them a lesson so to speak. This morning I understand exactly where you were coming from.
Rodan wrote:
Please explain how to do that without having the media?
It doesn’t do any good to go forward that way if no one sees it.
Ask anyone on the street if they know about the incredible work that O’Keefe has done on voter fraud. Or ask about all the amazing work that Bretibart did and his organization carries on. Hell, ask anyone about Benghazi or Fast and Furious.
No one knows any of this. The press won’t carry it and the blogosphere is so segmented into self-perpetuating little loops that no one will deviate from their own turf.
I even feel sick to my stomach when I stumble any of the liberal websites. I don’t even go to Huffpoo for movie news.
Clear it is many expect others to do the job of the sheep dog.
To many sheep not enough sheep dogs to protect the flock.
The flock will be made smaller by these wolfes of the commie Democrats eating the less able who fall behind on their taxes.
Time will come when the sheep dogs will rule once more and the flock will grow and will be able to seek happiness once more.
@ Brick:
I saw this coming. Nothing does Obama damage and Conservatives didn’t see reality. Americans want Marxism, let them see the consequences. meanwhile, the GOP needs to adapt to the 21st century.
@ Mars:
We have to start somewhere. What Republicans are doing now aint working.
Rodan wrote:
I’ve been saying much the same thing with different words. Enough playing Mr. Nice Guy. We need to take the fight to them with the same kind of tactics they use.
One of the reason I liked Newt for the pick was his eagerness to call out Chair. He was the only candidate that had the balls to charge B. Hussein with the truth of his idealism and associations to the most radical group on the Left.
First the evil will eat those of the cult who stray from the cults ways. This will weaken the cult. The cult is only about power. Power will make them mad as always. Then they will turn on themselves and lust for more blood.
Avoid the freezy.
Know yourself and those you need to trust.
Beware of the RINO’s they eat their own.
Brick wrote:
I hate this because me and so many of my friends will suffer along with the rest of the nation but it is almost as if we deserve the coming deluge. Still I hope we (thanks to a GOP congress) can staunch the bleeding until 2016.
Btw is there anyone here who thinks that things would have been better last night if Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, Cain or Palin had been the nominee? Yeah I did not think so. There is something fundamentally wrong with America when a wholly qualified, reasonable, patriotic good man such as Mitt Romney can lose to an Obama who was such a disastrous first term POTUS.
Thank you George W. Bush for giving us a John Roberts.
Rodan wrote:
Once again. You are not wrong. But, where can it start? Without the media I’m hitting a dead end here. I mean Beck had it right, I noticed that GBTV is now of Dish networks lineup and that’s a huge step forward. We need more of that, we need some of our big money people to buy out some of the traditional outlets out from under the libs.
But, how do we get them to do that?
The papers are dying so they’d be cheap, but nobody really cares about anything past the sports, comics, and coupons.
We need our hands on one of the the alphabet networks.
Rodan wrote:
Disagree with this. The blue states need to suffer. The conservatives need to beef up and defend the quality of life in the red states. And Fight the feds as one group
Speranza wrote:
We only have to hold out till 2014. Patterns right now show that there will probably be huge gains in the senate and at the state level for the GOP if we don’t fuck it all up.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Well said.
@ Speranza:
Romney is a good man but he let Scoamf off the hook in the 3rd debate & decided to do the nice guy routine.
Benghazi & F&F should have been his two main talking points & he should have opened up on Obama hard with them & struck while the iron was hot & momentum was still strong.
Rodan wrote:
Face it -- The “culture wars” have been lost. We can no more go back to the America of 1957 then the people of 1912 America could go back to the America of 1857.
@ taxfreekiller:
“It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains” -- Patrick Henry
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/07/white-house-insider-shut-up-move-on-or-not/
WH Insider says numbers don’t add up.
John Difool wrote:
Not sure about that. I really do not think that Americans give a crap about foreign policy f*ck ups much (at least when they happen on a Democrats watch) unless we are involved in a shooting war. I was impressed by Romney’s demeanor at the third debate. The problem is with the nation. How many of the unemployed/underemployed Americans voted for Romney? I think the answer would be “far too many”.
@ Mars:
That is what I have been thinking about. It’s time to form a parallel media.
All the talk shows have this problem.
The host gets on for 9 min. then the adds 3 min, then the ABC,CBS,NBC,AP news lies told as truth 3 min. for a total of 15 min. then over and over for the 24 hours.
The host makes the money for the stations to broadcast the AP lies.
We conservatives are as a matter of fact the customers of the companies who sell their products on the conseveative talk shows.
The Govt. claims they “own” the AM/FM waves the antenas send out.
The sheep only have the $ and time to listen to the free AM/FM.
We have to find a way to reach around the Goverment and the ABC’s etal and reach the dumbed down voters and pass the word of truth to them on who is getting the con run on them.
Mars wrote:
We have no problems winning on the state and local level, however on the national level -- well that is a different story. We need to be able to appeal to younger people and folks of Spanish background.
Hire the illegals to do the work at the newspapers we buy.
Hell have them deliver the papers.
That way they will learn how the system works.
Just make sure they have green cards.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
On a national level he just would not sell to the public. Whom would he have won over that Romney failed to win? So he was a good debater -- Obama debated terribly but guess who won?
Watch the private sector companies over the next 5 months in blue states. Mass exodus pending
@ Speranza:
He would have changed the debate and points of contention and focused more on just how we got to this place both socially and economically.
Speranza wrote:
I notice Univision is starting to lean more our direction on some things. How do we get the word out. I know the dems have used the illegal immigration issue to drive a wedge between the Hispanics and the GOP, but the fact remains illegal immigration hurts them as much as it hurts everyone else. Only the companies profit. And it’s going to get worse. As more and more people compete for less and less jobs, the illegals that haven’t already decided this country is lost will be holding jobs that people want but federal law says they can’t work because wages are too low.
Speranza wrote:
Disagree entirely. Pandering to different voter blocs is precisely how we got here. Liberty, equal opportunity, pursuit of happiness -- who doesn’t that appeal to?
What we see happen here on this conservative blog is the same thing that happens at Republican precicent, county, state and national conventions.
Lots of good ideas get kicked around, a over lord/lords, “leaders”,, its my way I have so and so power and I have more votes so your good idea outsider is not going to even get a reading before the whole of a convention at any level.
Sixty years before Christ’s birth, great orator and statesman Marcus Tullius Cicero watched plaintively as his republic faded before his eyes and Julius Caesar became the first Roman emperor. As today, some felt betrayed by their leaders, but Cicero knew that the people themselves were ultimately responsible for Rome’s slide into empire, saying, “Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have … rejoiced in their loss of freedom … who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of … “more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.’ Julius was always an ambitious villain, but he is only one man.”
One man can accomplish much, but only when aided by others. A leader is no more an island than is any citizen, and if he works ill, it’s only because of millions of enablers. Perhaps no one said this better than British statesman and philosopher Edmund Burke, who instructed, “Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.” That is, if men assume that freedom is license, if they assume that they can do whatever they want and abandon a freely accepted moral code in favor of the law of the jungle, the resulting moral anarchy will inevitably lead to the loss of freedom. Thus, if a people loses its virtue, it is doomed. It is beyond salvation by party, politician, or prophet. It is obvious to many why this is so, yet others don’t see the relationship between freedom and morality; they compartmentalize man’s existence.
Selwyn Duke
It is time to pray
Seriously I’m with TFK here. We need to go guerrilla now. Underground papers and magazines, graffiti, revolutionary phrasing. Go back to the 60′s but without the firebombing and murders.
I wish I had the money to start printing massive flyers just based on the pamphlets I get from the Freedom Center. Hell, I wish I had the money to buy a couple thousand and leave them in strategic places around town.
@ Brick:
Considering what happened last night, just over 50% of the population, apparently.
What we really need is a leader who isn’t afraid to get down and dirty, fighting down at the Democrat’s level not taking any bullshit…doing everything it takes to win. Another Nixon, maybe.
Certainly we shouldn’t even bother talking about lofty policy objectives, entitlement reform, whatever, in the current context. The most important task is to stop the bleeding -- which can only be done by stopping the Democrats.
Romney was a good candidate in many ways but in one sense, he was simply too much of a gentleman. We need a cutthroat.
Mars wrote:
I’m sure they don’t.
But we no longer live under the rule of law, and there’s nothing we can do about it.
Even if we were able to prove the election was stolen, it wouldn’t make any difference because we don’t have any way of depriving the “winners” of their ill-gotten gains.
Mars wrote:
I have been calling this for a while. The Left did not take over night. The Right needs to do the same.
lobo91 wrote:
Ouch. Nicely played.
Emperor wrote:
Yup, we need a brawler to win.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Not to the red states where the federal grabbermint can still get at them, but overseas.
Livery and freedom only work when there is a controlling moral authority from the majority. We have lost that and that is why we are entering what some describe as the Winter of America.
Everyone should read what is being said on Ulsterman right now. I’m not saying that there was a Republican/Dem conspiracy to commit massive vote fraud, but something isn’t sitting right. If the Rep helped in this then they would be running around right now saying we need to go more the left to appeal to women and minorities. Now go check your news sources. That is exactly what they are saying today.
The rumble of Jeb Bush 2016 has been running around the elite circles for a while. Now they are going to ram it down our throats unless we start the ground offensive now.
@ Speranza:
This is all well and good.. But there is only so much you can do without compromising principles -- which always backfires.
In Europe you see that in elections between a socialist and the so-called “center-right” party that pretends to be socialist, the voters go with the real deal every time.
Recounting during an election? There is something really fishy going on here.
@ Mars:
No way with Jeb. The stench of the Bush family is part of the reason we lost.
Brick wrote:
Over half the voting population, apparently. It isn’t as bad for me. I live in a deep Red State. Only four counties in the whole State of Tennessee went for Obama.
Mars wrote:
When you’re outnumbered, and the opposition effectively controls the major terrain features, the only course left is asymmetric. I agree with newsletters/flyers/etc. The decline of print media lies not with the media -- but with the message. I see no reason why a conservative based news analysis/opinion periodical couldn’t be a viable commercial entity. It would have to be easily digestible (pardon the pun). Some unconventional delivery/propagation conduits already exist and are simply lying dormant.
Rodan wrote:
You’re thinking like a rational human being. Think like an elite. This is exactly what they want. Where the hell do you think Christie got his damn orders?
This is Rove all the way.
Brick wrote:
Let’s buy the NY Times I hear it needs a bailout.
Brick wrote:
The Freedom Center pamphlets are perfect. Everyone here should get one. Once you’ve ordered one they keep sending you the new ones as they come out. Small book samples that are easy to read in one sitting.
They lay everything out in a very easily digestible fashion and the writers are some of the best we have.
(The one before last was by Robert Spencer.)
Brick wrote:
Perhaps my graphics background is speaking too loudly here, but it seems to me that we need…posters. Lots of posters.
I have a poster that hung in my office that read, “Privately owned and operated businesses competing with each other strive constantly to provide you with better products—cheaper.” The images show the “old” product and the then-new improved version.
It seems to me that we need to produce lots and lots of images and graphic exhortations like this, and spread them around—to people, to businesses, put ‘em on walls, etc. We need to educate people, and the media won’t do it; the Internet has people who go to their own areas of interest.
Posters can go anywhere.
What say you folks?
So we have all the Dem Presidents out there loud and influencing the mess. President George W Bush is silent influencing the mess
doriangrey wrote:
Thanks for the correction.
The American flag at the Follansbee, WV McDonald’s is flying at half-staff and upside down today. Someone at the restaurant told a reporter that this was “the owner’s decision.”
@ Mars:
I’m doing a Chris Cristie post as we speak.
Mars wrote:
That’ll be the next big push from the FSA. Gov’t subsidies to all failing media. “Don’t worry about the bottom line guys, we’ll take care of that. Just remember who’s paying your bills and everything will be groovy.” -- under the guise of the First Amendment is too important to let fail!
@ Rodan:
Obama ran the nastiest campaign in American history, and he won. There is a lesson there. We need to demonize and destroy whomever the Democrats put up in 2016. I despair, though, because 2016 will be too late. We’ll be $21 trillion in debt, and we can’t dig out from under that with this economy.
@ Speranza:
I think the GOP should formally throw Bush under the Bush. We should say that we have nothing to do with Bush’s failures and we reject his ideology. We need to treat him the way Dems treated LBJ.
Iron Fist wrote:
We need to launch a slash and burn campaign in 2016. We also need to appeal to more voters.
Looks like that big snowstorm is coming to get all those people whose homes were damaged last week.
I hope they enjoy the voice mail they get when they call Obama for help. He’s going to be busy partying.
//Let them eat snow
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Kind of a modern equivalent of handbills? From digital springs the analog. Would be effective for those still looking for something better or at least open-minded enough to do so. They could be both messages themselves and signposts to outlets for further messages.
@ lobo91:
Ironically the hardest hit areas like on Staten Island and parts of Queens are Republican.
Like I said above, starve the media to death. Simply don’t buy their shit. Take your TV out into the back forty, and use it for target practice. As long as you keep buying their crap, they will keep feeding it to you, and use the profits to work against you. How hard can that be to figure out?
You know who the enemies are. Stop giving them money, FFS.
@ Iron Fist:
I think $21 trillion is probably a conservative estimate, actually. That assumes that things otherwise stay pretty much the same, which they won’t.
Once we officially go back into a recession in a few months, the Dems are going to demand (and probably get) another TARP style infusion of cash.
We’ll probably be looking at $22-24 trillion by the time Obama gets done.
Brick wrote:
Nineteen boxcutters hijacked four airplanes and brought down the WTC. When high-tech is not practical, you go low-tech.
Good graphics communicate with people. Posters—good posters—are an important teaching tool. Or can be. Look at the posters from the first half of the 20th century, particularly those from WWII. They were used as a major communications tool in schools, in manufacturing plants, in stores and shop windows.
Something I said last time, and this time; Obama’s graphics were excellent. Republican graphics sucked. McCain’s sucked, and Romney’s sucked. That “R” of his was ugly and unbalanced. People respond to these things, subliminally—and the Republicans, or “conservatives” if you prefer, have been ceding the visual war for decades. We have to recapture the momentum in the visual war.
The Founders told us that ultimately our elected politicians are a mirror of ourselves. Just like you, before November 7, 2012, I lived in the fervent hope that the degradation of the Clinton and Obama years might be an exception to the long trend of American history. But two times eight years of radical leftists in high office can’t be an accident. We can’t just blame our sleazy media, or just the leftist political class, as corrupt and malevolent as they truly are.
No — the balance of decency in America has changed. Every society has normal, decent people and the other kind. The America we grew up in was fundamentally decent. Decency was the expected standard.
Now the balance has changed.
The evidence for our sleazified culture can be seen all around. We have a President who won on revenge against middle class values. That’s what he meant by telling his people to vote for revenge. And they did — showing us exactly who they are.
We are now a society divided between the makers and the takers, and the takers are on a campaign of theft and revenge.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Not so ironically, they’ve been getting shit response from FEMA by all accounts.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Obama would call those people bumps in the road.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I hope they don’t think it’s going to improve now.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STOP SAYING 2016!
We need to do all this by 2014 or there won’t be an election in 2016.
Every candidate from both sides must be primaried. They have to face the fire or they won’t be ready for the 2014 mid terms. Every democrat needs to be tied directly to this mess and every little thing that goes wrong the next two years must be set at their feet.
If the groundwork isn’t set by 2014 we don’t stand a chance in 2016.
Rodan wrote:
And yet oddly O is the evolution of all of LBJ’s ideas.
Rodan wrote:
Zombies. We know they like brains/free stuff. Why do we want those people in our camps or want to appeal to them?
Rodan wrote:
How long until Jeb Porky Bush becomes the “choice du jour”?
song_and_dance_man wrote:
All it takes is a look at popular culture to see that.
Speranza wrote:
Read Ulsterman, especially the comments. It’s already started, in fact the elites were working on it two years ago.
If we don’t get our shit together now it will be Bush/Christie 2016 vs Hillary/Obama. )Though I can’t see either of those two taking the second banana position.
Mars wrote:
The midterms are the key to lame-ducking Hussein, and lame-ducking him hard with no compromise. Hopefully before then Benghazi will become too huge to ignore.
LtCol West demanding a recount. Good on him, Rodan you want a warfighter? Here he is.
@ Speranza:
Probably next week
@ Rodan: I agree with Rodan. If the GoP can’t step up and change to embrace better health care and more hispanics. Then I need to move on to a smaller party and be more active. I think Romney did fine. I think he got rope a doped like McCain though. Pressured to not run negative while he opponent did. I think there is a huge voter population there that responds to tabloid advertising.
@ Brick:
So we can win, that’s why. We need to appeal to low information voters.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
So, where would one start?
@ darkwords:
The GOP needs to appeal to a broader audience. We need to appeal to low information voters. That means coming up with better slogans.
@ Speranza:
@ lobo91:
It’s begun already. The Texas Mafia is happy at Romney’s lost. Mitt should never had Rove as an adviser. Rove did not have the best intentions.
bluliner10 wrote:
I pray he pulls it out.
Rodan wrote:
You can’t have a platform that espouses fiscal responsibility while simultaneously promising free stuff to attract the lo-fo-vos.
darkwords wrote:
There are only two things that can be done to improve healthcare right now. Get the government limits off of interstate health insurance trading and get some damn tort reform so the doctors aren’t afraid their going to be sued if the tell you something you don’t want to hear.
As for the hispanics, I agree we need them, they are conservative at heart, but for some reason they have bought all the spoonfed bullshit the liberals have given them..
So you want to make some suggestions on how to accomplish these things or do you just want to be “that guy”.
@ Brick:
Low information voters did not vote for free stuff. They voted against Romney because he was portrayed as evil. We need a message that low information voters can understand.
Rodan wrote:
That’s classic branding. Equally important however, is a message carrier that can be effectively contrasted against the bad guy. Buy brand B because we’re not Brand A isn’t much of a slogan.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
As a designer, I have noticed this for some time now. Republicans need to reposition their brand (hell, they need to define their brand first) and good graphics is a key component to reinforcing your message. Obama’s campaign in particular had some of the best graphics I have ever seen in politics in my lifetime. It’s a result of big-name designers and advertising guys working for his campaign.
I would love to be a part of putting together some posters with conservative messages but don’t really have any good ideas for messages. I have been thinking about starting one of those online stores where you can purchase tshirts, mugs, etc. with my graphics on them but never seem to find the time. I don’t even know how much something like that could be helpful or influential but it’s worth investigating, I guess.
@ Mars:
That’s partly the GOP’s fault. After Bush got 44% in 2004, the Republicans did turn their backs on that community. You have to engage a community to win its vote. I will write about this in the future.
darkwords wrote:
As I have written earlier -- I don’t blame Romney at all. The only fault I found in him was during the primaries when he sounded too nativist at times. That was because of folks like Bachmann and Santorum. Mitt really wanted to win.
Brick wrote:
Don’t have to promise free anything. Have to get the message out about prosperity and fiscal responsibility without the damn media spinning everything into a backasswards mess.
The fact remains that it seems like everyone wants free stuff and maybe they do. But, that is largely because the press isn’t telling them what the actual human costs of everything are.
“Free healthcare” is great in their minds, but they don’t know what the quality is going to be, they don’t know about the death auditing, they don’t know about what happens when the money runs out.
Just like the tobacco taxes, our politicians never thought ahead to what happens when they finish banning smoking and the tax revenue dries up. Where does SCHIP get it’s money then?
The public isn’t being told these things, and as long as they only have the old media in their brains they won’t be.
@ Brick:
Right, we need a combo of our Brand is better for you because of x. The other one is not good for you because of X.
Rodan wrote:
Having Rove as an adviser is similar to having Liz Taylor as a marriage counselor.
Runner wrote:
I should also say that the goal wouldn’t be to make money but get a message out.
Speranza wrote:
Crap that’ what we’ve been missing. How the hell do we buy the Enquirer away from Hillary’s buddy?
That is the number one read paper in the US. People still respond to tabloid tactics. Hell watch any reality show and you’ll see that.
New Thread.
@ Mars:
You are onto what I have been thinking. We need to start buying into the media.
Runner wrote:
First thing: get some good, terse, one-sentence conservative messages. Think them up yourself; stripmine Milton Friedman or anyone else you can think of for good quotes.
Second: make some good, clear graphics that underscore the message to go with the quote(s). Study some of the motivational posters from WWII, or the children’s posters that used to be in schools in the ’30s, ’40s and ’50s. These things were designed to communicate a clear message quickly and simply.
Third: AVOID SARCASM OR IRONY. They only play to people already “in the choir.” If you have something to say, say it directly, not by trying to be snarky. Snark turns people off even if they agree with you, more often than not; it can reinforce the opposite message with people who don’t initially agree with you.
Produce; distribute.
Runner wrote:
That’s only possible for people with enough income to not have to worry about it.
Hell, part of me almost wishes O hadn’t been lying about the student loan bailout. I could get a lot further without my student loans hanging over my head. (Or a 3000 dollar divorce attorney bill, or 4000 dollars to my ex wife for a debt I took responsibility for, or 17000 in old debts that a collection agency wants to file in court for.)
(Yeah, if I do get a job I lose every penny of it. Student loans take half and collections get the other half. Then I’m still stuck without a way to pay my attorney or get my ex off my back.)
Rodan wrote:
While I disagree with your low-fo-vo reasoning, I agree that future messaging must be tiny, succinct, bite-sized, deep fried, and sugar coated.
Brick wrote:
See my #186 above.
Here’s an election result I didn’t hear anyone mention last night:
Rodan wrote:
how about “party for everybody”
@ ferb123:
Go back to the swamp Foster
Hi everyone. Busy morning. Had a Dr appt and overheard some waiting room conversation. Older black ladies. They’re just so ‘proud’. I’m thinking, yeah, wait 18 mos and try to figure out why you can’t get a Dr appt. You both have about 10 yrs max before your return-on-investment ratio heads south and you’ll be lucky to get even palliative care.
I’m so pissed off, I can’t even bring myself to feel sorry for them. I just feel like “fuck you, you deserve every iota of what you’re going to be in for”
@ lobo91:
Wow, that’s historic. We maybe getting a 51st state!
@ eaglesoars:
But they’ll have a nice shiny card, probably with Obama’s picture on it in a hologram.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yep. Charity begins and now it ends at home. Every solicitation I get from any national charity, I will henceforth return with “Obama’s pending tax-increases, and healthcare costs prevent me from contributing at this time.”
Rodan wrote:
Where will they put the extra star on the flag?
Oh lookie here! FEMA has deserted Staten Island ahead of the bad weather.
Just packed up a skedaddled.
Brick wrote:
Oooo, nice one!
@ eaglesoars:
The election’s over. No need for them to be out in the cold pretending to help now.
Welcome to the new normal.
@ lobo91:
Yeah. Besides, those in trouble are probably just republicans anyway. Or if they are not, they are at the most mere bumps in the road.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Good advice. Especially about being ironic or snarky, which tends to be my nature. At least the snark part. I’m still trying to get a grasp on irony.
I love WWII posters, WPA posters, and anything from the Machine Age. Hell, even the Soviet posters were gorgeous. If I could read the messages I might not think so but graphically speaking, they are beautiful.
So, this is what it must have been like during the beginning of Peronist Argentina. I love my nation, but now there is no escape from the financial Day Of Reckoning heading toward us at full throttle. We aren’t quite at “Hunger Games” levels yet, though.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Watch Sun News on YouTube.
Thanks to our fine neighbors to the north, Sun News is what Fox should have been.
US cable companies are missing out on profits because they don’t carry it. They’d have something to offer conservatives if they did.
Obama’s Second Term transformation plans