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by coldwarrior ( 74 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at November 9th, 2012 - 11:00 pm

 

What? I was looking at the guns!

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  1. 1 | November 9, 2012 11:06 pm

    So that’s why I like my wife . . . the blonde blue-eyed daughter of an army colonel certainly caought my eye back in 1980!

    And she can shoot too.


  2. Calo
    2 | November 9, 2012 11:08 pm

    It might be time to hear from Mrs CW soon on this blog and her opinion on what you’ve been watching.

    Otherwise,I am glad to hear she is home and is being pampered by her other half. :smile:


  3. song_and_dance_man
    3 | November 9, 2012 11:08 pm

    I used to have guns, and then my underarms got a bit flabby.


  4. 4 | November 9, 2012 11:10 pm

    It’s really sad, but all of my guns were lost in a boating accident and I haven’t been able to afford to replace them.


  5. song_and_dance_man
    5 | November 9, 2012 11:22 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    It’s really sad, but all of my guns were lost in a boating accident and I haven’t been able to afford to replace them.

    Were you, by any chance, boating with Dorian? He lost his guns in a boating accident too; off the coast of Arizona in the Pacific Ocean. Dep in the Pacific.

    I know, mushrooms. ;-)

    I lost the two guns I loved when I got married. A Browning HI-Power, walnut handle 9mm that was a beaut. And a Glock 9mm. All three of them are now gone.


  6. huckfunn
    6 | November 9, 2012 11:35 pm

    Here’s an interesting vid. 60 round mag for an AR15. It looks like he’s firing a fully automatic rifle, but he’s not. He’s firing a entirely legal semi auto AR15 with an entirely legal bump stock. Check it out.


  7. Mars
    7 | November 9, 2012 11:40 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Here’s an interesting vid. 60 round mag for an AR15. It looks like he’s firing a fully automatic rifle, but he’s not. He’s firing a entirely legal semi auto AR15 with an entirely legal bump stock. Check it out.

    Not familiar with bump stocks. My dad had a hellfire trigger for his rifle he had many many years ago. Just flicking his finger it could simulate full auto.


  8. Mars
    8 | November 9, 2012 11:41 pm

    It was on his SKS.


  9. Daffy Duck
    9 | November 9, 2012 11:53 pm

    @ Mars:
    I’ve used the Hellfire, too. Think they were $20 or $30. Cool for sure, but less so at todays ammo prices.

    Battery going, nite all.


  10. The Osprey
    10 | November 9, 2012 11:54 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I lost the two guns I loved when I got married. A Browning HI-Power, walnut handle 9mm that was a beaut. And a Glock 9mm. All three of them are now gone.

    I guess I shouldn’t tell you about Miss Belgium.


  11. song_and_dance_man
    11 | November 9, 2012 11:58 pm

    When I was a kid, things being different then for a kid nowadays who would have little chance for this kind of adventure, the factories that occupied all the surrounding areas were a special place to find interesting stuff. For instance the ball mill following the train track just east off Vineyard. It was more than special.

    Some kids had marbles. What we found there were huge and small steel balls of every size that crushed whatever it was they made into dust. And the fine dust was everywhere. We were once chased off by a man who, if had a hockey mask, would have been sworn by us to the the first Myers.

    We survived and took our balls home.

    They were great for shooting them into the curb gutters and making rooster tails.

    Anyway, back from a back story to a shorter story. The best dumpster dive in this period as an pre-adolescent adventurer of sorts was the Mattel factory. In those days they threw their seconds into a big trash bin. Mattel had a guard, but being wary of other guards we encountered in other factory challenges, we timed it every time and climbed the fence undetected.

    And so, I had my first gun. Cap? yeah, but it was the first.


  12. Mars
    12 | November 10, 2012 12:04 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    When I was a kid, things being different then for a kid nowadays who would have little chance for this kind of adventure, the factories that occupied all the surrounding areas were a special place to find interesting stuff. For instance the ball mill following the train track just east off Vineyard. It was more than special.
    Some kids had marbles. What we found there were huge and small steel balls of every size that crushed whatever it was they made into dust. And the fine dust was everywhere. We were once chased off by a man who, if had a hockey mask, would have been sworn by us to the the first Myers.
    We survived and took our balls home.
    They were great for shooting them into the curb gutters and making rooster tails.
    Anyway, back from a back story to a shorter story. The best dumpster dive in this period as an pre-adolescent adventurer of sorts was the Mattel factory. In those days they threw their seconds into a big trash bin. Mattel had a guard, but being wary of other guards we encountered in other factory challenges, we timed it every time and climbed the fence undetected.
    And so, I had my first gun. Cap? yeah, but it was the first.

    Mattel and the other toy factories very often would throw away their prototypes. Many of those are worth a fortune now.


  13. huckfunn
    13 | November 10, 2012 12:04 am

    @ Mars:
    @ Daffy Duck:
    Here’s the Slide Fire SSAR 15 Bump Stock.


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | November 10, 2012 12:11 am

    Calo wrote:

    mrs coldwarrior loves the vid.


  15. coldwarrior
    15 | November 10, 2012 12:15 am

    father_of_10 wrote:

    It’s really sad, but all of my guns were lost in a boating accident and I haven’t been able to afford to replace them.

    odd. same thing

    here.

    blub…


  16. coldwarrior
    16 | November 10, 2012 12:17 am

    Calo wrote:

    It might be time to hear from Mrs CW soon on this blog and her opinion on what you’ve been watching.
    Otherwise,I am glad to hear she is home and is being pampered by her other half.

    on couch, fed grapes.

    prn bubble bath

    prn red wine

    back massage.

    pt is sleep


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | November 10, 2012 12:21 am

    because


  18. Calo
    18 | November 10, 2012 12:23 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    NT2U said you were a good hubby from what she observed in Yinzerville.

    Night, and kiss the ones you love just because you still can.


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | November 10, 2012 12:25 am

    Calo wrote:

    Night, and kiss the ones you love just because you still can.

    i did


  20. song_and_dance_man
    20 | November 10, 2012 12:27 am

    Mars wrote:

    Mattel and the other toy factories very often would throw away their prototypes. Many of those are worth a fortune now.

    The toy that every kid wanted in that day was not the Creepy Crawler cooker. The 007 camera turns into a gun was the one. We found them, but they didn’t work. And that is why they were trashed.

    A few years later Hot Wheels came out, but my dumpster diving punk years doing the factory circuit was over. I moved on to washing cars and mowing lawns in my 12th year of life.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | November 10, 2012 12:33 am

    night


  22. coldwarrior
    22 | November 10, 2012 12:33 am


  23. 23 | November 10, 2012 12:33 am

    I used to have a really great Arsenal of various guns. We lost track of them during the evacuation for the Monument Fire.

    It was a pity but, that is my story as well as the Blonde Lady who is quite willing to cry in public over the loss of Her precious Left Handed Randall’s.

    It is a great mystery! :)


  24. Mars
    24 | November 10, 2012 12:34 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    Mattel and the other toy factories very often would throw away their prototypes. Many of those are worth a fortune now.
    The toy that every kid wanted in that day was not the Creepy Crawler cooker. The 007 camera turns into a gun was the one. We found them, but they didn’t work. And that is why they were trashed.
    A few years later Hot Wheels came out, but my dumpster diving punk years doing the factory circuit was over. I moved on to washing cars and mowing lawns in my 12th year of life.

    I begged my father for that gun for a long time. Now I can’t remember whether I got it or not.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1960S-TOPPER-SECRET-SAM-JAMES-BOND-TOY-CAMERA-GUN-SET-/261111091479

    If it’s this one I think I remember having it.

    I also had a briefcase that if opened wrong fired plastic darts. Also had a trigger on the handle that would do the same thing.


  25. coldwarrior
    25 | November 10, 2012 12:38 am

    i never owned ay guns


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | November 10, 2012 12:41 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i never owned ay guns

    night, y’all.


  27. song_and_dance_man
    27 | November 10, 2012 12:53 am

    Mars wrote:

    I also had a briefcase that if opened wrong fired plastic darts. Also had a trigger on the handle that would do the same thing.

    If you still have the briefcase it is the rarer of these toys; they were more expensive. Here is the the other

    I wanted this toy more than anything at the time. Well a little less than other things I was persuing as a kid,


  28. 28 | November 10, 2012 3:17 am

    “Bump action” stocks and similar devices are great for “spray and pray”, and that’s about it. Well, except for consuming vast amounts of ammo -- they’re good at that, too.

    My range rents full auto weapons for a quite reasonable $ 20/hour (they have an M4 and a Glock 18, as two examples), but I found the novelty wore off pretty quick. I didn’t rent them, mind you -- I just mooched time for a couple of magazines off of somebody else’s rental time. I’d rather spend my time and ammo money trying to get better at actually hitting something with aimed fire.

    Now if somebody would manufacture a Gatling gun replica (those are NOT Class III weapons by BATFE rules) in .22 LR at a rational price, I’d consider buying one just because they’re a real hoot. That Colt replica “Bullpup” Gatling gun in .45/70 is a work of art (all in brass,) but $ 50 K is slightly out of my budget range. Actual, Class III weapons that can be purchased by civilians are astronomically priced. Even if you have the coin, who wants to plant themselves front and center on the BATFE radar screen? Plus, since I live in VA, but the range I use is in WV, I would be required to notify the BATFE in writing every time I went to the range, since it involves transporting a Class III weapon across a state line. Open the market again to pre-85 availablity and prices and it MIGHT be worth the risk and hassle, but that’s not going to happen in my lifetime.

    The only bit of firearms exotica I am currently semi-Jonesing after is one of these…

    http://csharpsarms.com/catalog-detail/38/Model-1885-Highwall-Sporting-Rifle.html


  29. ThreeHundred
    29 | November 10, 2012 3:33 am

    @ AZOlddog:

    I inherited guns, they were lost somehow in the transit across various state lines…


  30. Guggi
    30 | November 10, 2012 5:15 am

    Panetta says there were NOT military planes near Libya which could have stopped Benghazi attack as it is revealed troops took 14 hours to reach consulate after raid

    Panetta should resign too.

    They need hours and hours and meetings after meetings to know what to do ? Dabblers. Period.


  31. Guggi
    31 | November 10, 2012 6:02 am

    Why did they send an unarmed drone ?

    I guess Petraeus was blackmailed by the hmm….government and then decided to release the CIA time line which opened more questions than it resolved and resigned immediately after the election. I think he wasn’t that much disgusted about himself having a affair but that he was blackmailed and lost his professional reputation when he had to switch from first saying ” it was a terror attack” to “it was because of a disgusting vid” the day after.


  32. Guggi
    32 | November 10, 2012 6:44 am

    A senior administration official said the White House learned only Wednesday that Petraeus had a potentially serious problem. The official said that Petraeus telephoned Thomas E. Donilon, the national security adviser, early Thursday and asked to meet with Obama.

    Really ?


  33. Purre
    33 | November 10, 2012 6:56 am

    I don’t buy that. Considering that FBI investigation on his e-mail had already identified his mistress, one would think that president had been notified on possible security risk. If that was not case, they have serious problem there, which requires investigation in itself (and serious consequences).


  34. Guggi
    34 | November 10, 2012 7:07 am

    Take this with a big grain of salt :-)

    (…)

    Rightist website Newsmax said Petraeus’s email exchanges with Broadwell included sexually explicit references to such items as sex under a desk. The website wondered why Petraeus was not forced out of the CIA before the elections despite the fact that the FBI investigation against him was launched in the spring.

    According to Newsmax, at some point after Petraeus was sworn in as CIA director on Sept. 6, 2011, Broadwell broke up with him. However, Petraeus continued to pursue her, sending her thousands of emails over the last several months, raising even more questions about his judgment, the website reported.


  35. Guggi
    35 | November 10, 2012 7:09 am

    Purre wrote:

    I don’t buy that. Considering that FBI investigation on his e-mail had already identified his mistress, one would think that president had been notified on possible security risk. If that was not case, they have serious problem there, which requires investigation in itself (and serious consequences).

    Of course and I agree. O. must have known what was going on since months.


  36. Guggi
    36 | November 10, 2012 7:28 am

    Wow !

    George Bush Accidentally Votes For Obama

    Former U.S. president George W. Bush accidentally voted for Barack Obama today at a polling place near his Crawford, TX home.

    According to local reports, the two-term Republican was confused by the instructions on his electronic voting machine and mistakenly cast a ballot he intended to discard.

    Witnesses say Bush argued with poll workers for several minutes afterwards in a effort to redo his vote, but in accordance with state law they ultimately denied his request.


  37. 37 | November 10, 2012 7:45 am

    @ Guggi:

    Sigh. Will they ever leave the man alone? He did his time, he served his country and he’s earned his anonymity.


  38. 38 | November 10, 2012 7:47 am

    @ Guggi:

    Should have gueesed -- it’s W’s fault.


  39. 39 | November 10, 2012 7:48 am

    @ Guggi:

    Obama likes killing people with drones. The only reason to send an unarmed drone is because he didn’t want the option of using force. One Hellfire could have taken out that mortar crew, consequently saving the lives of two former SEALs. Obama didn’t want to do that. It is like th eexcuse that they didn’t have military assets in the area. In the time that they had they could have scrambled jets from Europe to provide close air support. They simply didn;’t want to. They wanted the Jihadis to succeed.


  40. Guggi
    40 | November 10, 2012 7:54 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Sigh. Will they ever leave the man alone? He did his time, he served his country and he’s earned his anonymity.

    No, this is blank hate.


  41. Guggi
    41 | November 10, 2012 7:56 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Yep, it’s always Bush’s fault. This will continue the next 200 years.


  42. Guggi
    42 | November 10, 2012 7:58 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Obama likes killing people with drones. The only reason to send an unarmed drone is because he didn’t want the option of using force. One Hellfire could have taken out that mortar crew, consequently saving the lives of two former SEALs. Obama didn’t want to do that. It is like th eexcuse that they didn’t have military assets in the area. In the time that they had they could have scrambled jets from Europe to provide close air support. They simply didn;’t want to. They wanted the Jihadis to succeed.

    I’ve never seen such a mess and the MSM keeps telling us everything is ok and everybody who says otherwise is an evil GOP conspiracy theorist.


  43. 43 | November 10, 2012 8:03 am

    @ Guggi:

    This is the worst foreign policy disaster in United States history. And Obama gets away with it. I don’t really expect Congress to do anything with it. Holder showed how powerless the Congress is against this President. Holding the House enables us to stop bad legislation from passing (which is no small thing), but nothing more. Obama will rule as a dictator for at least the next two years. God alone knows what he’ll do with that power. Congress can’t stop him and the Supreme Court won’t stop him. America is done. Collapse is inevitable.


  44. 44 | November 10, 2012 8:10 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    Obama likes killing people with drones. The only reason to send an unarmed drone is because he didn’t want the option of using force. One Hellfire could have taken out that mortar crew, consequently saving the lives of two former SEALs. Obama didn’t want to do that. It is like th eexcuse that they didn’t have military assets in the area. In the time that they had they could have scrambled jets from Europe to provide close air support. They simply didn;’t want to. They wanted the Jihadis to succeed.

    Secrets always come out eventually. There are simply too many people in the chain for this thing to be tamped down forever. Too many careers on the line and, more importantly, too many people down the chain who subscribe to “honor, duty, country”.


  45. 45 | November 10, 2012 8:14 am

    Free Shit Nation:

    (CNSNews.com) – A record 70.4 million people were enrolled in the Medicaid health care program for the poor in fiscal year 2011, according to government figures provided to CNSNews.com.

    That figure equals about 22 percent of the population, which means there was one person on Medicaid for every 5 Americans in 2011.

    Want to know why we lost? There it is. These people are bought and paid for with your tax dollars. How many of these people are also on food stamps, free housing, etc.? These people take, and contribute nothing to society. It doesn’t have to be this way, but these people, for the most part, don’t want to change. They are content to get their government cheese, and live the lifestyle that it supports. After all, they don’t have to work hard to support that lifestyle.


  46. coldwarrior
    46 | November 10, 2012 8:22 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Want to know why we lost?

    the base didnt turn out for romney.

    its that simple.


  47. Guggi
    47 | November 10, 2012 8:25 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    In Berlin/Germany one out of five lives from social welfare. It takes generations to get them out. You don’t have to ask why they re-elect mayor Wowereit a Social Democrat again and again.


  48. 48 | November 10, 2012 8:27 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    Want to know why we lost?
    the base didnt turn out for romney.
    its that simple.

    As I mentioned yesterday, an even larger pile of O voters didn’t turn out, either. You can’t treat these facts in isolation.


  49. 49 | November 10, 2012 8:30 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    If Republicans, of all stripes, don’t learn to march in the same direction in the General Election the way Democrats do, a lot of us may lot live to see another Republican in the White House. Staying home because the candidate isn’t exactly one’s cup of tea, or to make some kind of “point” is unacceptable.

    People who stayed home voted for Obama, pure and simple.


  50. coldwarrior
    50 | November 10, 2012 8:32 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Iron Fist wrote:
    Want to know why we lost?
    the base didnt turn out for romney.
    its that simple.
    As I mentioned yesterday, an even larger pile of O voters didn’t turn out, either. You can’t treat these facts in isolation.

    its not isolation. i dont care about the other side. nothing i can do changes them.

    i care about our side so if base turns out we win. its that simple. our base did not turn out. that IS something that we can do to fix it.


  51. 51 | November 10, 2012 8:35 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Registered Democrats have notoriously low participation rates compared to Republicans, don’t they? Democrats came out in droves in ’08, it would seem to follow that they’d have a drop off in ’12. We, on the other hand should have been motivated to at least go to the damned polls, considering the level of whining and bitching over the past four years.


  52. Purre
    52 | November 10, 2012 8:45 am

    Those who voted Romney at least earned right to complain. Rest should just suck it up and take it like a man, regardless of how bad it gets.


  53. 53 | November 10, 2012 8:46 am

    Guggi wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    In Berlin/Germany one out of five lives from social welfare. It takes generations to get them out. You don’t have to ask why they re-elect mayor Wowereit a Social Democrat again and again.

    The graffiti or ‘Schmiererei’ in Fredrichshain/Kreuzberg is everywhere. A lot of it isn’t in German, it’s in Turkish.

    And they’re accepting more and more muslim ‘asylum seekers’. Right away they’re given food, lodging and money!

    Klaus Wowereit doesn’t have long; corruption unfolding in the BER airport construction.


  54. 54 | November 10, 2012 8:50 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Many times I have said you have to turn out your base first to win. I hope we have learned that lesson. Bush I, Dole< McCain, and now Romney have all lost the base. I thought Romney would do better than he did because of the selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate. That was red meat for the base, but apparently not enough to bring enough of us out to vote. Enthusiasm was high hfor Romney where I live, though, and we turned out to an impressive level for Romney around here.


  55. 55 | November 10, 2012 8:55 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    Many times I have said you have to turn out your base first to win. I hope we have learned that lesson. Bush I, Dole< McCain, and now Romney have all lost the base. I thought Romney would do better than he did because of the selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate. That was red meat for the base, but apparently not enough to bring enough of us out to vote. Enthusiasm was high hfor Romney where I live, though, and we turned out to an impressive level for Romney around here.

    I’m wondering if the level of doubt stemming from Romney’s Mormonism was grossly underestimated.


  56. 56 | November 10, 2012 8:55 am

    @ Mike C.:

    But Obama’s base came out to vote for him. Where Obama got the drop-off was in independent voters. Romney, I believe, did better among independents, but you have to get your base to the polls first. If you don’t, you can’t pull enough from the squishy middle to win. Romney would have had to take nearly all the independent vote, and that is simply not reasonable to expect.


  57. coldwarrior
    57 | November 10, 2012 8:57 am

    i also remember saying that there was no way he wins ohio and pa after the bain thing. the crap he and bain pulled in pa cost him as well. even though the gop won big on the local level here, he didnt have the same success with the voters.

    i held my nose and voted. i carried water, i spun him as best as i could. i pretended to like him, never will i do that again. this cat is done being a whore for the gop. my district went hard GOP where a generation ago it was deep blue. i will continue working with my tea party compatriots here on the local level but the national gop is dead for me. we are too stupid to win.

    sure,mitt would nave been a fine president, that much is true.


  58. coldwarrior
    58 | November 10, 2012 8:59 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    I’m wondering if the level of doubt stemming from Romney’s Mormonism was grossly underestimated.

    a mormon and a catholic?

    i would really love to see the breakdown on who stayed home…


  59. 59 | November 10, 2012 8:59 am

    @ MacDuff:

    That is possible, but I linked the other day to a survey that was done of Evangelicals, and it didn’t hurt him among Evangelicals. Indeed, Evangelicals turned out in record numbers for Romney. Did Mormonism hurt him among the Catholics? I don’t know. It is hard for me to see any devoute Catholic voting for Obama. Obama is the most anti-Catholic President we’ve ever had. But Hispanic Catholics went heavily for him. I don’t think it was the Mormonism, and I don’t think it was just demonization of the GOP. The simplest explaination is that these votes went for the candidate that offered them the most free shit.


  60. 60 | November 10, 2012 9:03 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    Indeed. It would be vastly more interesting than the breakdown of who voted.


  61. 61 | November 10, 2012 9:10 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    W need a candidate next time who can pull the base. You already have Frum, et al, making noise that the GOP needs to move to the middle, but this is wrong. If we move more to the middle, we simply lose more of the base. Look at me. I won’t vote for Chris Christie at all and would be very unlikely to vote for Jeb Bush. The GOP “elites” simply cannot keep taking the base for granted and hope to win. SO who does that leave? Actually a lot of people. Marco Rubio, Suzanna Martinez, Paul Ryan (again), Scott Walker, Nikki Haley, and others. You’ll note the Tea Party connections for all of these. Romney ran away from the Tea Party, and it cost him big time. We have to clean house and get rid of the RINO “moderates’. We tried “moderates” with Dole, McCain, and now Romney, and they alllost. Time to try something different. Reagan was the last real Conservative we’ve ran for office. Time to try that again.


  62. Guggi
    62 | November 10, 2012 9:11 am

    Peter wrote:

    Guggi wrote:
    @ Iron Fist:
    In Berlin/Germany one out of five lives from social welfare. It takes generations to get them out. You don’t have to ask why they re-elect mayor Wowereit a Social Democrat again and again.
    The graffiti or ‘Schmiererei’ in Fredrichshain/Kreuzberg is everywhere. A lot of it isn’t in German, it’s in Turkish.
    And they’re accepting more and more muslim ‘asylum seekers’. Right away they’re given food, lodging and money!
    Klaus Wowereit doesn’t have long; corruption unfolding in the BER airport construction.

    During the last months Austria was flooded with asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.

    The BER won’t touch Wowereit he is the “Spaßbürgermeister” who likes to spend other people tax money (Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg) and partying.

    There is a new book out from another SPD-mayor in Berlin, Heinz Buschovsky, which is really critical about the situation in Berlin, especially about integration of Turks and Arabs. He argues that “multi-kulti” has failed and the Turks and Arabs have to do the work to integrate or have to go.


  63. coldwarrior
    63 | November 10, 2012 9:17 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    We have to clean house and get rid of the RINO “moderates’. We tried “moderates” with Dole, McCain, and now Romney,

    and W BIG TIME and his dad in 92

    i am done holding my nose, wont do it agin


  64. coldwarrior
    64 | November 10, 2012 9:18 am

    Guggi wrote:

    There is a new book out from another SPD-mayor in Berlin, Heinz Buschovsky, which is really critical about the situation in Berlin, especially about integration of Turks and Arabs. He argues that “multi-kulti” has failed and the Turks and Arabs have to do the work to integrate or have to go.

    we were staring to have problems with the turks in berlin in the 80′s, i am sure it is far worse now.

    (they do make killer doner kebabs tho…)


  65. 65 | November 10, 2012 9:24 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    THat’s an assumption unless you have some hard data to back it up. A larger portion than normal of the general electorate decided to sit this one out. Why?

    Another point I’d like to make is that an unknown but undoubtedly significant fraction of the conservative base is now, albeit unintentionaly, part of the “Free Shit” army. A falling tide grounds all boats, and people with a family to support and no way around it will take that unemployment check and those food stamps, if they can get them. Once upon a time, I took unemployment myself when I was in such a situation. Didn’t feel real good about it, but I took it.


  66. 66 | November 10, 2012 9:30 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I base that assumption looking at the black vote. Blacks certainly turned out for Obama again this year, despite high black unemployment and the gay marriage issue. When forced to choose between their Christian religion and the Black Jesus®, record numbers of blacks went with skin color. Obama also did remarkably well among hispanics. Again, forced to choose between their Catholic religion and Obama, Hispanic Catholics went overwhelmingly for Obama. Certainly in those two segments of his base Obama had no trouble getting out his base. Single women also apparently value free contraceptives over having a job. The list goes on. No, I see no reason to assume that Obama’s base did anything but turn out for him. While I don’t have the exit polling data to back that up (and exit polling data is notoriously unreliable, anyway), I have more confidence in that than I do the statement that Obama’s base didn’t turn out for him. In at least the three segments of the base that I know about, they did turn out for him.


  67. 67 | November 10, 2012 9:39 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    Heinz Buschkowsky “I’ll help them pack their bags”, some people say is another Thilo Sarrazin. I dunno, he was the Bezirkbürgermeister of Neukölln though; he wants the immigrants to integrate, if not, that’s his slogan. He doesn’t seem to find any problems with Buddhists, Hindus and ‘die Aleviten’ (don’t know the English); I wonder why?
    He specifically points out the Arabs, Turks, and Kurds -- all Moslem.

    ‘Neukölln ist überall’


  68. coldwarrior
    68 | November 10, 2012 9:43 am

    Peter wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Heinz Buschkowsky “I’ll help them pack their bags”, some people say is another Thilo Sarrazin. I dunno, he was the Bezirkbürgermeister of Neukölln though; he wants the immigrants to integrate, if not, that’s his slogan. He doesn’t seem to find any problems with Buddhists, Hindus and ‘die Aleviten’ (don’t know the English); I wonder why?
    He specifically points out the Arabs, Turks, and Kurds — all Moslem.
    ‘Neukölln ist überall’

    it certainly isnt a problem with islam, is it?

    :lol:

    lets not look at that!


  69. coldwarrior
    69 | November 10, 2012 9:46 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    ‘die Aleviten’ (don’t know the English); I wonder why?

    partisans of the caliphate of Ali.

    Alevis are adherents of a specific Shi’a strand of Islam, with some pre-Islamic influences. It is practised mainly in Turkey.The terms Alawite (Arabic: Alawî) and Alevi, although they share the same etymology, refer to different religious groups. The Alawites are found in Syria


  70. Guggi
    70 | November 10, 2012 9:56 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    The Alawites are found in Syria

    not only, in Turkey as well.


  71. 71 | November 10, 2012 9:56 am

    CAIR Poll: More Than 85% of American Muslims Picked Obama

    Half of me says “duh!”, the other half says “only 85%?”.


  72. coldwarrior
    72 | November 10, 2012 9:59 am

    Guggi wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    The Alawites are found in Syria
    not only, in Turkey as well.

    i was quoting, ymmv

    ok, time for a hot date with mrs coldwarrior!

    (costco and walmart… :lol: ) yeah, yina are jealous of all the glamor!

    ;)


  73. 73 | November 10, 2012 10:56 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Wow !
    George Bush Accidentally Votes For Obama
    Former U.S. president George W. Bush accidentally voted for Barack Obama today at a polling place near his Crawford, TX home.
    According to local reports, the two-term Republican was confused by the instructions on his electronic voting machine and mistakenly cast a ballot he intended to discard.
    Witnesses say Bush argued with poll workers for several minutes afterwards in a effort to redo his vote, but in accordance with state law they ultimately denied his request.

    That’s a spoof site, I’m pretty sure.


  74. 74 | November 10, 2012 11:21 am

    1389AD wrote:

    That’s a spoof site, I’m pretty sure.

    It is. Dammit, that one sucked me in as well! Thanks for pointing that out. It says something about the state of things when it becomes increasingly difficult to tell parody from reality, no?


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