Yesterday, I attended an economic summit. I left somewhat more concerned for America’s future than when I arrived. Not so much because of the deals that probably will not be made during the lame duck session of Congress, which is something that should not be allowed anyhow, but because of our insistence in swallowing the snake oil that is Socialism. We continue to swallow this snake oil, no matter how bad the taste from our last dosage is. We have continued to swallow the snake oil, even though that taste still lingers in our collective, (pun intended,) mouths. Our nation really has become two nations. One is made up of large Urban areas that will always vote for allowing the government to take on an ever growing role as the ultimate authority and provider of everything from A to Z. The other America is the flyover country, those knuckle dragging rubes who seem to feel that outdated ideals such as a constrained government that is not permitted to intrude itself upon the daily lives of those who make up the citizenry is what’s best for America.
We have reached a tipping point, where the two populations are almost equal in size, with very little in common. The result is that compromise is fast becoming a thing of the past, and now means, “your side should just capitulate already.” Know this going into the next couple of months. The people who voted for Barack Obama, and voted for a Senate to be controlled by Democrats, voted for increased government largess and a larger more intrusive government. Those who voted for Republicans to control the House voted for the opposite. In short, Americans got together again this year and voted for gridlock. For those of us who are conservative in nature, gridlock is the best that we can hope for. The Republican controlled House is our cease and desist order for the Obama agenda, and it is still in force. The Tea Party movement in the House is the only Republican contingent not to lose any seats in the shrinking Republican majority in the lower chamber, and has now become a larger voting block in terms of the percentage of the GOP makeup in that chamber. In a world where the Senate has shifted to the left in dramatic fashion, and a President who’s own lame duck term in office will take any centrist constraints placed upon him with the specter of facing an election, the pressure to hold strong will be wielded by a stronger Tea Party movement in a weaker Republican House coalition. In short, don’t look for a deal concerning the supposed fiscal cliff, embrace the self imposed defacto balanced budget amendment, for the two months that it will last.
Economic hardship is coming, and it will not be the sequestration and discontinuation of idiotic and wasteful spending that brings it. If anything, the fiscal slope will be something that softens the blow. The reason that I refer to the events about to unfold as a slope is that it’s effects will not be felt all at once. It will take a period of about 6 months to fully unfold, and the result will be the government not spending more than what it it takes in, in terms of revenue. The ill effects of Obamacare on the other hand, those will be severe, and will begin to be felt almost immediately from today forward. We have already seen several dozen businesses announce layoffs, cuts in employee hours, hikes in prices, movements to foreign markets, etc. directly attributed to Obamacare. We have also seen reports of Doctors, already retiring early, starting other professions, and giving up the practice of medicine, directly attributed to Obamacare. So enjoy your second dosage of that Marxist snake oil America, too bad it will taste no better than the first dosage. Thank goodness that there’s a Tea Party controlled majority in the House to keep us somewhat tethered to reality, how ever loosely.
There is a mistaken belief that people have that says our spending is greater than our taxation, which results in deficit spending. So, here it is. Government spending is taxation. That form that we all think of as taxation is really just the revenue portion of the taxes we pay, the rest is made up of quantitative easing, and debt. After all, the tooth fairy is not waiting somewhere with a bag full of cashed in lost teeth just waiting to make us whole again. While your 401k’s might very well still be reflective of values that have larger numbers in them than when we first elected this President, the purchasing power is most probably less or possibly only the same. In other words, their values were eaten in the quantitative easing tax that nobody actually voted on but was imposed none the less.
Long story short, if you keep stealing money from the private sector in order to continue the Santa Claus fantasy of your promises of free crap to be gifted from the public sector, eventually the private sector will quit trying to produce so much that people see them as a ripe target for theft. They’ll take their toys and leave. Mexico, China, India, or Columbia will become even more attractive places to conduct commerce. When that happens, it won’t matter what the promises were, there will be nothing left to hand out.
Our debt limit is a ridiculous notion at best. Those who lend our government $4 Billion each and every day could care less what our self imposed idea of our limitations are. The debt limit that does matter is our creditor’s willingness to continue this farce. When they begin to worry about the risk of loaning us money, (falling credit ratings should be ringing some bells,) or when they feel the sting of being ripped off due to being paid interest in devalued currency, that limitation will hurt a hell of a lot more.
Economic pain is a necessary part of any economic system, capitalism and socialism included. It is a signal that people need to change their methods and products of production. If left alone, the free markets have allowed those changes to take place with very tolerable signals, that has not ended in whole sale misery. On the other hand, promises to be able to remove all economic pain from the equation has only delayed said pain and always served to amplify the ill effects of ignoring those market signals. The great Depression was a failure of bad government policy, and history has shown that increased government intervention did far more harm than good. There are not solutions, just trade offs.
At what point in our national discussion will we notice that the areas of Urban blight that continually vote for more government control are the areas where misery is experienced in its greatest amount. Likewise, flyover country is where the economic conditions are still relatively strong. At what point will we notice that we should be implementing the economics of success in those places where misery is prevalent rather than the other way around. After all, there is only so much of other people’s money that can be stolen before they are tapped as well.
Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.
Tags: Fiscal Cliff
Am I the only one who has problems with the blog ? It is oscillating.
Richard Trumpka , President of the AFL-CIO attended a National
Mediation Board Conference today.
The boffoonish Trumpka said that there is no Fiscal Cliff,
‘It;s manufactured”
If you doubt him, he will sic some union thugs on you.
To me, it’s the way the Democrats see this magical figure of $250,000 per household as “rich.” That is the high end of middle class income in the San Francisco Bay Area. It may be a lot of money in Indiana or Wisconsin -- but in an urban area, that doesn’t even remotely qualify as “rich.”
As a result, they seem to think the $250,000 households must have a wheelbarrow load of disposable income, because they are certainly coming for it from a thousand directions.
But mark my words, it will not be stopping three. They aren’t going to generate nearly the revenue they anticipate -- by this time next year, anyone making $100,000 will be “rich.”
Is there a nice jump and landing at the bottom?
@ Guggi:
It seems fine to me.
@ Carolina Girl:
That’s why the GOP should offer increases on incomes over 1 Million dollars. Let’s call Obama on his bluff.
I’m disconnected from the feds, except federal taxes here and there…I don’t see myself as part of the coming demise…take your money out of the stock market and bury it, cash out your 401′s and stick it under the mattress, and get some gold…if your taxes are too much, protest them but do not pay them…if your children are clean cut, sell them to the Saudis…no don’t, jk
@ Rodan:
Absolutely. And even more on income over $5,000,000. And I also like your idea of “entertainment” salaries being taxed an extra 30%. If you make money from concerts or acting, mo’ money, mo’ mon
They like “skin in the game”? They think they’re taxes aren’t high enough? They should see what the rich had to pay when Eisenhower was President!
As Rush Limbaugh has pointed out time and again -- they need to realize that it’s not “THEIR” money.
@ Carolina Girl:
Yup, it’s time to go after the Rich Democrats.
Please drop a comment over at PJM if you like this (link in the title):
The Charge of the Light Worker
—apologies to Alfred, Lord Tennyson, and “The Charge of the Light Brigade”
Half a bill, half a bill,
Hundreds of billions,
To the fiscal cliff of Debt—
Now sixteen trillion.
“Forward!” Light Worker said,
“Charge what we want!” he said
On the fiscal cliff of Debt,
Now sixteen trillion.
“Forward!” Light Worker said
“Though we’re deeply in the red,
I’m doing what I said
When I thrilled millions:
The Treasury my “stash,”
Green energy plans rash,
Billions in crony cash,
Off the fiscal cliff of Debt,
Now sixteen trillion.”
“Regulate industry,
Depress the economy,
Create false scarcity,
Cut back oil drilling.
Let entitlements swell;
Make our defense a shell;
Into the jaws of Debt—
How great? no one can tell—
Now sixteen trillion.”
Flush’d down fed’ral programs,
Flush’d down his healthcare scam,
Threat’ning with the taxman
Any who would protest
His road to ruin.
Heedless and unafraid,
The press acting to aid
Dissimulation
His plans had long been laid
The land to do in;
The bill came back much more
Than sixteen trillion.
“Regulate industry,
Depress the economy,
Create false scarcity,
Cut back oil drilling.
Let entitlements swell—”
That’s how a nation fell,
Freedoms tossed down a well,
Into a maw of Debt
How great, no one can tell
All we know is that it’s
Now sixteen trillion.
Would we were as we were
Ere half the land preferred
Public trough swilling.
What a profound error
To let the Light Worker
Squander our trillions!
Carolina Girl wrote:
the feds work for us…this has been fundamentally conceded to the guy who’s raping you
Rodan wrote:
Emailed my Congress critter today saying that since 8 of the 10 richest counties in the USA voted for Obama, you should raise their taxes not by rate but by limiting their deductions. Hit ‘em where it hurts for extravagant home purchases with resultant high property taxes.
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I saw that today. He’s trending back downward again. Even after the election and “he won” etc. ad nauseum, it did not propel him into a positive rating in Rasmussen. He has some of the highest positives he’s seen in Rasmussen since January of 2009, but his “strongly DISapprove” number is still higher than his “strongly approve.”
And I don’t see anything on the horizon that’s going to boost it. He dropped two points in two days -- and he’s looking more and more like a punk who didn’t really have a damn plan and faked everybody out once again.
@ 96cid:
Absolutely. All we heard was that these jerks who wanted their taxes raised were the “true patriots!” Except of course, when that young lady showed up at the Congressional office buildings the same day all these millionaires were prowling the halls for “Congressional Patriotic Millionaire Day” — she had her laptop open to the webpage for the IRS where a rich guilty White boy could pay some extra $$$ to the government via the IRS since those dirty, nasty, shifty Republicans wouldn’t go ahead and raise his taxes….
….and wouldn’t you know it. Not a single one of those “Patriotic Millionaires” screaming for a higher tax burden took the young lady up on her office to help them “pay more.”
Anyone else think that these jerks may have voted for Obama, but voted for the REPUBLICAN candidate for the House?
Canada’s got it right — could we trade for Harper?
We’ll give them Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid and a Bolshevik to be named later.
Representative Clyburn shared with Chris Matthews
why the evil Republicans are criticizing Susan Rice.
The reason? Ta da! She is African American.
What? You thought that it was because she took
the White House lying talking points about Bengazi
to five different Sunday programs? Sheeesh!
Barack Obama is helping the growth of small business by forcing large businesses to downsize.
The Lies Of The Left
@ RIX:
I’m still waiting for someone to explain why, if she had “nothing to do with” what happened in Benghazi, as Obama claimed yesterday, he sent her out to spread disinformation on all those talk shows.
Why didn’t they just email them a PowerPoint presentation?
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Suggest? I’d say that they prove it.
Warren Buffet just said in an interview that Obama should
dig in his heels, even if it pushes us over the Fiscal Cliff.
Why is he rich & I’m not?
RIX wrote:
Because he’s politically connected and you’re not.
@ RIX:
If Warren Buffet thinks he doesn’t pay enough taxes he could try paying the billions he owes instead of coming after my wallet.
lobo91 wrote:
That is the duplicity of Obama’s faux outrage, he sent her out.
Where is the outrage over four dead Americans?
Apparently Obama’s well being trumps them.
lobo91 wrote:
I would be a really happy rich guy.
@ RIX:
And he claims to have explained everything to the families.
Oddly enough, the father of one of the former SEALs was on Sean Hannity’s show this afternoon, and he seemed to have a different opinion.
Iron Fist wrote:
He’s a fraud, great financial mind, but still a fraud.
He can pay more in taxes, but chooses not to.
@ Carolina Girl:
Westchester County NY
Marin County CA
Somerset County NJ
Fairfield County CT
Fairfax County VA government workers?
Loudon County VA government workers?
Pitkin County CO (you should see the private aircraft parked at the airport there)
Nantucket County Massaschusetts
@ lobo91:
Was it Charles Wood, father of Tyrone Wood?
That man is angry & heartbroken.
RIX wrote:
I believe so.
He’s probably just a racist.
//
@ RIX:
Four or forty million, Obama doesn’t care about dead Americians. All that matters to him is his own personal power. To the extent that he cares about anything beyond himself, Obama is on the side of the terrorists. That’s why he tried to turn this into something about an anti-Mohammedan video. He saw an opportunity for pro-Mohammedan propaganda.
@ lobo91:
Maybe if his son looked looked Trayvon?
@ RIX:
O hides behind skirts all the time. Michelle, Valerie, Susan etc.
@ Carolina Girl:
It’s considered “rich” unless you qualify for one of the following exceptions:
Not white, not male, not Christian, not straight, not Capitalist, and/or a Union muckety-muck. Did I leave anyone out?
RIX wrote:
Or if he’d studied more in school, he wouldn’t have been stuck in the military, as the presumptive future SecDef would say.
lobo91 wrote:
Is that ever going to be a crying shame!
And most likely get us into war
Iron Fist wrote:
Right & right. Those men are just collateral damage &
not important to his fabulousness.
He does love him some Muzzies.
lobo91 wrote:
These are nice people/
See y’all later
There was one significant difference between what Powell said and what Rice said, though: At the time Powell made those statements, the administration actually thought they were true.
And as for the second part, the only reason for the administration to have characterized this attack as a spontaneous mob action is political. That way, they could claim that it was completely unpredictable, rather than the logical conclusion to a series of prior actions.
If Every Food Stamp Recipient Voted For Obama, It Would Account For 75% Of His Total
waldensianspirit wrote:
Evvabuddy in Cleveland got Obamaphone™! Keep Obama in Prezdent!
@ lobo91:
Indeed -- why wouldn’t they have sent someone from State, preferably her Thighness? Why in the world do you send out the U.N. Ambassador, who ostensibly had no role or knowledge of the events either before, simultaneous to or subsequent to this tragedy.
And it WASN’T the best knowledge you had, you lying piece of shit. You knew at the time it wasn’t about the video -- but you and her Thighness made that stupid promotional commercial that you ran in the Muzzie Countries.
The louder the Democrats yell, the more I think we have them cornered.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I can see it now…a new spy “thriller”: Обамафон!
Ruh Roh…..from Fox News via Weasel Zippers:
@ Carolina Girl:
I am certain the “lying piece of shit” wasn’t directed to lobo91… 8)
Carolina Girl wrote:
This was my first guess.
@ lobo91:
Frankly, there’s nothing to suggest that Powell said wasn’t true. The left has long espoused the “Bush lied, people died” meme when it comes to WMD. However, subsequent intel -- and this was from the British and the Italians IIRC -- was that he indeed had them and shipped then in the dead of night to Syria. No one sent Powell out there to lie.
And furthermore, the Democrats in the Senate believed it as well at the time. NO ONE LIED.
This administration KNEW that the tale they were telling was as phoney as a $3 bill. And they booked her on those five morning shows -- they didn’t all call up and ask for Susan Rice. They figured it would just quietly go away and we wouldn’t be hearing about it after the election so it wouldn’t matter that Rice had gone out and lied like a cheap rug on September 16th.
@ Macker:
Oh hell no.
I think this is the link to the WSJ article
@ Guggi:
My understanding is that Petraeus went to Libya and conducted his own investigation. I’m curious why he is testifying behind closed doors? Is it because Issa doesn’t want the media or the administration to get a chance to coerce him?
I’m impressed with the bullsh!t baffles brains methods that the financial wizards in government get away with. Why call it ‘money printing’ when you can say ‘quantitative easing’? Why say there is a ‘fiscal cliff’ when the debts of a government are increasingly impossible to EVER be paid back? The debts of sovereign nations are worthless in most cases. They pretend to pay you back with interest, but they only pay you back in newly minted devalued currencies.
Such a deal. / Shell game, scamalamadingdong. I have a mad theory about why Clinton, Panetta, and various dignitaries always travel to far away places. They are scoping out real estate for the future.
Carolina Girl wrote:
He’s testifying behind closed doors because it’s going to involve classified information.
Public hearings are nothing more than a dog and pony show.
Ugh. We just lost another F-22 in an accident in Florida. Pilot ejected safely.
At this rate, they’ll have to restart the production line to replace the wrecks.
I’m watching an interesting phenomenon here in the media:
sicnce the re-election of O. people are no longer interested in him and his politics.
F-22 crashes at Florida Air Force base
Guggi wrote:
I guess they got what they wanted. That must have been the whole reason, and now they can just get on with their lives. It’s odd, but interesting. Watch them turn on Obozo if they don’t like the consequences.
People. Ya can’t live with ‘em, and ya can’t live without ‘em. /
@ Guggi:
But don’t worry, he CARES about them. They’ll be getting a rude awakening in that quarter shortly when they go to fill up the car or buy a gallon of milk or a pound of hamburger.
Speaking of hamburger, that reknowned constitutional scholar, Nazi Pelousy, whose cranium is certainly full of the stuff, has gone on record saying Obama should increase the debt ceiling with the stroke of a pen in accordance with his powers — when asked if Congressional approval will be required --
That was a two spit-take moment right there.
@ Carolina Girl:
She shouldn’t even be allowed to vote, much less serve in the government.
@ yenta-fada:
At some point the goody gravy train is going to have to run out -- they don’t have enough of us working to pay for it -- even if they taxed the rich 100% they wouldn’t have it. And let’s not forget Barry Boo has removed the work requirement -- no doubt at the behest of his union buddies so that states, etc., will need to HIRE to fill the jobs from now on.
@ lobo91:
The only thing that gives me SOME sense of peace is that this addle-pated nitwit has a limo and driver and is therefore not driving on the Northern California roads I’m currently traveling on.
Carolina Girl wrote:
There is that. I could certainly see her crashing into a crowd of pedestrians after confusing the gas and brake.
@ Carolina Girl:
Such is the intelligence of the Botox Bimbo from Buggeryland!
@ Carolina Girl:
It must be awful for her to have to spend some of her own millions to fly home on weekends now.
Poor thing.
lobo91 wrote:
Mark Levin has pointed out, as Chief of Staff to Ed Meese during the Reagan Administration that there is NO WAY Obama would not have known that Petreaus was being investigated. He would have had to be told, especially since it was believed that he was “leaking” secrets, so that he would not in turn give Petreaus information that would be leaked. Libturds are citing the Mukasey Memo as proof that the FBI would not have been able to inform Obama about the Petraeus investigation.
On the contrary, the Mukasey Memo only states that the FBI cannot share the particulars of the investigation -- they are under no prohibition to witthold information that an investigation exists -- indeed, it would be in the national interest to advise the President (even THIS one) of the existence of the investigation, lest he share sensitive information with a “leaker.”
Not that leaking has ever been a problem with Obozo anyway…..
@ lobo91:
I’m sure Nazi has her own account with NetJet -- mix with her unwashed constituents? Oh hell no.
@ Carolina Girl:
Anyone who thinks that the Attorney General wouldn’t tell the President that a top official is under investigation is just an idiot.
Nancy baby reminds on the MPs of the EU (from all parties) who were interviewed and couldn’t tell what the EU flag means, couldn’t tell what is in the treaty of Lisbon they were just voting for AND couldn’t tell how many countries are members in the EU.
Carolina Girl wrote:
How in the hell did that moron ever manage to become so powerful in the first place?
Does she have secret videotapes of the entire Democratic Party?
lobo91 wrote:
I would not be surprised if the president ordered the investigation.
@ brookly red:
It wouldn’t matter if it was the Postmaster General that was under investigation. The Attorney General would tell the President.
lobo91 wrote:
yes of course, I am just saying he probably did not have to be told.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
He is right. Have anyone of you talked to someone who voted for obama?
They know next to nothing about Benghazi (that would be like blaming George Bush for 9/11) They voted for obama because he was ACTUALLY the most centrist of the two, they also voted for obama because of obamacare, AND the reason that didn’t vote for Romney because Romney was going to do something about obamacare…they agree that obamacare needs to be tweaked and they have full faith that it will be done. They were totally clueless concerning obama not to mention calling obama a socialist was getting annoying and bet you dollars to donuts that whatever bad happens in the next 4 years they are going to blame the Republicans because they don’t want to work with obama…nevermind the fact that it is obama who doesn’t want to work with the Republicans. It was bizarre. This person is not stupid but actually believed that anything the Republicans said was PROPAGANDA. Unreal. Hook, line and sinker they believed the MSM.
Oh how strongly the house of cards stands when the ‘joker’ is the pillar of the deck…four more years indeed! The two of spades and it`s partners the three of diamonds and the four of clubs demand their ‘fair share’…face cards beware, no time for aces in a world of asses!
Lily wrote:
maybe you want to re-think that…
@ Lily:
Fortunately, one of the advantages of living in Colorado Springs is that we don’t allow those people here.
//
When it all comes crashing down who will have food to eat?
@ brookly red:
@ lobo91:
This person lives in Arizona….I honestly couldn’t believe what they were saying. They were annoyed at all the bombardment of the negative things said about obama..but if Jindal would have ran they would have voted for him. Made no sense.
lobo91 wrote:
The Springs is a really nice town. I was stationed at Carson for a few months in 1967. Have been back there a few times since too, lastly in 2005 on my bike headed west by CO 115 to US 50W.
@ Rancher:
Those of us who have guns?
@ brookly red:
No they aren’t stupid..but I didn’t say they had common sense now did I?
@ Lily:
They have some crazy people in Arizona, too.
I think they confine them to Tucson.
@ lobo91:
You hit the target on that one. Bulls-eye.
@ 96cid:
It’s a little bigger now.
My mom thought it was like Tombstone or something, apparently.
@ lobo91:
Or a yard.
lobo91 wrote:
basically…
Lily wrote:
lobo91 wrote:
Yes I know. Been back there several times.
Lily wrote:
Nothing will grow in my yard but weeds.
Rancher wrote:
liberals can be quite tasty… but you gotta cook em well all kinds of diseases you know.
‘What a bastard!’ Taliban mock Petraeus’ downfall… and say he would be stoned to death in Afghanistan David Petraeus might ask himself which is worse? His behavior or a Florida pastor burning a Koran?
PETA apparently has a new offensive billboard out for Thanksgiving, aimed at kids.
It says “If you wouldn’t eat your dog, why would you eat a turkey?”
Apparently, the PETA people are stupid. We eat turkeys because they’re food. You can tell that by the fact that they sell them in the grocery store, unlike dogs.
brookly red wrote:
I’d rather eat grass than turn into a cannibal. Yikes! :Shock:
darkwords wrote:
Of course, that isn’t true.
Paula Broadwell would be stoned to death in Afghanistan.
lobo91 wrote:
That is ridiculous now isn’t it? Good heavens all these nut jobs are coming out of the wood-work. Well more of them. Peta thinks we don’t need meat…uh yeah we do. We might not need it 3 times a day ..but we do need protein.
Lily wrote:
and if you give them a free cell phone they will climb into the pot and help you chop the carrots
lobo91 wrote:
Uh yeah ….stock up on can goods?
@ lobo91:
Did you hear about LA resolving that Mondays are now Meatless Mondays?
No force of law, yet, just a suggestion that is good for mother earth. /
@ brookly red:
Well they are into veggies…so yeah they will chop up the carrots.
@ Lily:
What we don’t need is PETA.
Leia says turkey is tasty, BTW.
Lily wrote:
Only if they’re organic.
lobo91 wrote:
/are you suggesting that we move the trial?
citizen_q wrote:
Everyone in LA starving to death would be better.
citizen_q wrote:
Heard about that. Insanity. Just a suggestion is it? When will they pass a law prohibiting resturants and grocery stores from selling meat on Mondays? That’s the next step. I say buy meat ahead of time and eat it on Mondays. I’ll decide what to eat and what not to eat.
@ brookly red:
No, I’m suggesting that the Taliban are hypocrites.
They don’t stone men for adultery. The men usually claim that the woman put a spell on them.
“organic” is shorthand for over priced and grown in shit…
lobo91 wrote:
Yep that is who would get stoned in Afghanistan…the man gets a pass.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
And full of bugs.
Lily wrote:
meat will always be available to party members comrade
Lily wrote:
speak for yourself.
lobo91 wrote:
True. They are truly idiots. How in the hell did mankind survive back in the day with these fools ideas? Have they ever even entertained the thought? I guess they don’t think much. They think they can control their own destiny and live forever.
brookly red wrote:
they cook up like veal. i like the organic ones. they are really yummy.
lobo91 wrote:
/damn! I hate when that happens
brookly red wrote:
potato IS meat.
off to gulag you go!
coldwarrior wrote:
Well men do tend to go for more meat. Hey I just ate a wonderful Bar-b-que sandwich. Yum.
@ coldwarrior:
I could live on potatoes they are so versatile. I love potatoes.
@ Lily:
I am contrary and can have a streak of spitefulness. I would make it a point of eating meat on Monday.
I would also point out Thomas Eakins (hopefully I remember the author’s name) in his boot the Palaeolithic Prescription and the later Palo Diet books by Loren Corden, that lean meat is a staple basic food for humans and part of a healthy diet.
brookly red wrote:
Or people who live near the gulf…let’s see crabs, shrimp, fish and gator if that is your taste. The south knows how to get on with food. Beans and rice are a staple down here.
@ 121 citizen_q: i eat a paleo diet and feel a lot healthier. i think i will send LA pols some cheeseburger wrappers.
citizen_q wrote:
I’d make damn sure to eat it on Mondays.
Lily wrote:
good comrade!
off to gulag with you as well.
@ Lily:
I’m still pissed about the light-bulbs…whenever I see one of those swirly things I cuss just as a matter of principal.
coldwarrior wrote:
You just have to understand that they are filthier they your normal food and require extra washing.
@ coldwarrior:
I eat meat but not a lot of it…always been that way.
@ Lily:
I’d make brisket every Monday if I lived there.
citizen_q wrote:
like any freshly killed game, some precautions are necessary when killing, filed dressing, and prepping organic free-range liberals
darkwords wrote:
Venison, with a Bambi DVD. /
brookly red wrote:
Women put spells on you? You need to get that fixed.
lobo91 wrote:
Ah yes…make sure you cook it outside too…so it wiffs through the neighborhood.
lobo91 wrote:
What about Liquid SPAM®?
Lily wrote:
Bacon I can never resist….nor some good ribs or fried chicken. I eat meat but love veggies too.
@ Lily:
How else could you cook it?
Lily wrote:
LOL I had a great brunch a few days back… poached eggs, fried oysters, pickle chips & holendase sauce on a brioche. I called it a yuppie po boy
Lily wrote:
Credence Clear Water Revival?
lobo91 wrote:
You have a point there.
@ citizen_q:
Indeed!
Macker wrote:
I think I saw them at CBGB once…
Lily wrote:
uhhhh, why?
@ brookly red:
Congressmen King (R-NY) and Hecht (R-NV) were just on Hannity describing the questions and testimony of Clapper (Director of National Intelligence) and Mike Morell (Acting Director of the CIA). Both Congressmen said that it was the CIA that gave the initial talking points to the WH and those talking points stressed that the Benghazi attack was most likely a terrorist attack. However, Clapper and Morell said that they didn’t know who at the WH changed the talking points (later given to Susan Rice) from a terrorist motive to a stupid video motive. I don’t know about the Morell guy, but Clapper is dumb as a stump. Gregg Gutfeld made a good point on The Five today. He said the regime is trying to reverse engineer what happened in Benghazi. I think Gut’s exactly right.
@ Lily:
None allowed in my house.
/galt
@ brookly red:
Well down here there is voodoo, hoodoo, juju, mojo…so take your pick.
I’ve seen someone here suggest that the Republican Party counter Obama by proposing a tax increase on incomes over $1million, plus proposing an ‘entertainment tax’. What is an ‘entertainment tax’? A tax on things like movies & football tickets?
@ CynicalConservative:
Hubby bought some and I cussed him out just for the principal!
/there in my house and I look at him like *what the hell are you doing with those swirly things in my house?* He ignores me.
Lily wrote:
and the jury will please note that the witness has admitted that women do cast spells… I have no further questions.
@ mfhorn:
Yeah I think that is what they meant. It might backfire though.
@ huckfunn:
Best known for saying that the Muslim Brotherhood are a “mostly secular” organization.
@ huckfunn:
Our grabbermint is coming off like a bad SNL skit. Just plain embarrassing.
@ brookly red:
@ mfhorn:
Yes the Entertainment industry and most athletes support Obama. They want higher taxes, give it to them!
lobo91 wrote:
During an interview with Diane Sawyer in 2010 (live no less), she asked Clapper about the arrest 2 days earlier of a dozen terrorists in the UK. He didn’t have a clue as to what she was talking about. The Clapper Flap.
Lily wrote:
I despise them. I have to fight the urge to break them creating a small toxic spills to make a point. Used to be a broken light bulb was a minor mess more less easily cleaned up.
@ citizen_q:
I hate them too.
Rodan wrote:
and somewhere out there Elliot Spritzer clutches his heart with horror
lobo91 wrote:
I remember that. Did not clapper also refer to Jerusalem as al-kuds? It is distresssing to hear our leadership so obviously wrong, and speaking in terms of the enemy.
citizen_q wrote:
“National Intelligence” is the punchline.
@ brookly red:
@ citizen_q:
Sure did
huckfunn wrote:
I’ll take Joe Biden for 200 Alex.
brookly red wrote:
AND the people who know where the good fishing spots are!
brookly red wrote:
Sorry, no, I can’t get past the smell. Or the looks. El Gato and La Gata won’t allow ‘em in the house. I’d rather do as they do and dine on rats & mice if it came to that.
Rodan wrote:
yet another reason I don’t do TV
citizen_q wrote:
@ lobo91:
That was John Brennan, another “intelligence” dope.
citizen_q wrote:
When I hear “Clapper” I think of those “Sold Only On TV” gizmos that let you turn lights on and off by clapping your hands. I’d rather just get up and hit the switch, thankyouverymuch.
1389AD wrote:
spaghetti and rat balls again?
brookly red wrote:
Ding ding ding… We have a winnah!
@ brookly red:
I do but just certain shows without the commericals…I have to have some jell time. Everything is so serious…sometimes I have to take a break.
huckfunn wrote:
Sheesh, we sure pick some winners.
It’s time to ditch the State Dept AND the CIA, and put all intelligence back under the military, where it belongs. As far as diplomacy, just tell everybody that if they mess with us they get their asses kicked, and let it go at that.
1389AD wrote:
I think of that solid iron ball that makes a bell go “ding-dong”.
@ huckfunn:
Yes there really are idiots in D.C. Virginia.
/a little bit of holiday theme.
@ Rodan:
I think I’ll run that by my Congresscritters & see what they say.
A day or two after the election, I wrote to suggest that Paul Ryan be named as Speaker of the House. Haven’t heard back from my Rep yet on that.
@ huckfunn:
Thanks!
Could they both have said it?
Seems clapper is quite at home with the enemies narrative.
1389AD wrote:
The Israelis, God bless ‘em, be ‘splainin’ that to the Hamassholes as we speak.
citizen_q wrote:
Oh btw the scum on 42nd & 2nd protesting the Israeli embassy was chanting “today Jerusalem tomorrow New York” and “Obama will burn you” as I left the office this evening… juss saying
@ 1389AD:
Dreaming.
@ huckfunn:
Hard to keep track of all the idiots in this administration.
citizen_q wrote:
Brennan was the guy who said it, but I’m sure Ding-Dong would agree.
lobo91 wrote:
Now that’s a fact.
huckfunn wrote:
Someone should print a program.
brookly red wrote:
WOW since obama has been re-elected What a Wonderful World we live in!
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Lily wrote:
@ brookly red:
W0w! I salute your self-control.
@ huckfunn:
Yep, what Lobo91 said.
lobo91 wrote:
Too many to count…let’s not forget the idiots who voted them back in. I say it’s like the flu and catchy. Turns your brain to mush.
Good night all.
@ Lily:
This is my theme song for the Obamabots:
@ huckfunn:
I love that one!
@ lobo91:
Oh another good one lobo…yeah they will not stop believing not one bit. Stuck on idiot.
lobo91 wrote:
OK, here it is. ALL OF THEM! Like they say at Staples, “That was easy”. But, wait. Everything will improve as soon as we have John Fraud Kerry as SecDef. //
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brookly red wrote:
I have never tried eating rats or mice, but I understand that people in certain parts of the world consider them delicacies.
http://people.bridgewater.edu/~mtembo/menu/food/mice.shtml
(comments at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVD1JeMR5HA)
citizen_q wrote:
what was I supposed to do? all I can do is put it out there that the jihad political machine clearly sees Obama as a friend.
Lily wrote:
I just enjoy seeing Tom Cruise channeling Axl Rose
@ citizen_q:
Nite c-q! Sweet dreams!
@ lobo91:
LOL!!!!
/hey we have to laugh!!!!
Lily wrote:
When was the last time you heard this?
@ huckfunn:
Take it easy huck! But yeah all of them are.
Lily wrote:
It’s actually a surprisingly entertaining movie.
Alec Baldwin wasn’t very good, though. The monkey is a better actor.
@ huckfunn:
Oh WOW! Oldie but goodie!!!
@ lobo91:
I enjoy a good movie here and there and even some B-movies..just no anti-American ones. They help me relax…..
Lily wrote:
If you haven’t seen it, you’ll enjoy the music, anyway.
Speaking of Sweet Dreams….
@ lobo91:
Haven’t seen it but will put it on my list. Thanks for the heads up!
Lily wrote:
All the songs are done by the actual cast, which is interesting. Everyone knew that Julianne Hough can sing, but Tom Cruise was a surprise.
@ lobo91:
Never would have thought Tom Cruise could sing at all!
Everyone left us lobo….I have a way of clearing a room.
Lily wrote:
He makes a very convincing Axl Rose clone.
@ Lily:
He does a decent Jon Bon Jovi, too:
Lily wrote:
Who needs ‘em?
Lily wrote:
not so much
@ mfhorn:
I wrote mine.
Lily wrote:
Check your garter, the 1911 is showing just a mite.
@ JeremyR:
Hmmm, that may be more likely to attract a crowd with this group vs. clearing the room… just sayin.
/galt
huckfunn wrote:
That too.
huckfunn wrote:
Using the only language that they are capable of understanding -- and I don’t mean Arabic!
lobo91 wrote:
Bad connectivity. Also my husband is on my case to finish something I was working on.
@ lobo91:
Not bad at all! Tom did good on that song!
@ JeremyR:
LOL!
@ brookly red:
Ah there is still life to the thread.
@ lobo91:
@ Lily:
And, let there be life.
Or, whatever this thread is now devolving into…
@ Calo:
Hey {{{Calo}}}!!!!
This song made me think of you for some reason.
Lily wrote:
If you rent that movie, see if you can find the Extended Cut. It has at least one whole scene that was cut from the theatrical version, which is a duet of Rock You Like a Hurricane by Tom Cruise and Julianne Hough.
Hmm…apparently, that version is only on the BluRay release.
@ lobo91:
I’ll check it out.
Moving up to the OOT thread.
@ Lily:
I swear the guy who plays the mayor (Catherine Zeta-Jones’ husband) looks like John Boehner.
Which actually makes it funnier. You’ll see why
@ lobo91:
I give up.
What movie are you talking about?
and, why do I care that Tom Cruise can sing?
I would just prefer to duct tape his mouth shut so I can’t hear him utter vapid thoughts and just gaze into his bedroom eyes for a bit.
@ Calo:
Hey going up thread and see if I can make that song for you right.
Tom isn’t a bad looking man..but damn his religion makes him nutty.
He was once Catholic.
@ Calo:
Rock of Ages
@ Lily:
Well, we gotta drag Lobo upstairs too, then if I gotta go up there.
Testing. Getting sent to moderation in the OOT, can I post on this thread?