We have not had a worse U.N. Ambassador since the Andrew Young days during the Carter Administration.
by Richard Grenell
Most reporters haven’t been following Ambassador Susan Rice’s performance at the United Nations since her appointment in January 2009. To many journalists, Rice’s misleading interviews on the five Sunday Shows the weekend after the 9/11/12 terrorist attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were one of the first times they had heard from her. To veteran foreign policy observers, Rice’s shameful performance that Sunday was one of many blunders over the last four years.
Rice’s refusal to answer questions about why she blamed the Benghazi violence on a YouTube video was met Wednesday with a feisty defense from President Obama saying don’t blame Rice because the White House sent her out to do the Sunday shows. The “stop picking on Susan” retort from the president looked like a big brother defending his little sister on the playground. It was an odd moment for a woman wanting to be America’s top diplomat.
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The case against Susan Rice has been building for years with little fanfare. Not surprising, the mainstream media reporters based at the UN have either ignored her mistakes or strategically covered them up.
The Washington Post’s UN reporter Colum Lynch even wrote a glowing profile of Rice on September 23 – a week after her Sunday shows debacle – where he didn’t mention the Libya controversy until the 13th paragraph (a Washington Post staffer told me that editors had to add language about the Libya controversy to the piece).
Rice’s diplomatic failures and silence in the face of outrageous UN antics have given the United States pathetic representation among the 193 members of the world body. UN members, not surprisingly, prefer a weak opponent. Rice is therefore popular with her colleagues. It may explain why she ignored Syria’s growing problems for months.
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Ironically, Rice was very critical of the US’s performance at the UN under President George W. Bush and vowed to build better relationships with every country. In her current stump speech Rice claims with a straight face that her goal has been accomplished, “We’ve repaired frayed relations with countries around the world. We’ve ended needless American isolation on a wide range of issues. And as a consequence, we’ve gotten strong cooperation on things that matter most to our national security interest.”
Rice has been consistently silent on other important issues and ineffective when she does engage. She skipped Security Council meetings when Israel needed defending and even failed to show up for the emergency session on the Gaza Flotilla incident.
Rice didn’t even show up for the first two emergency Security Council meetings on the unfolding Arab Spring revolution last year. Rice stayed silent when Iran was elected to the U.N. women’s committee, she didn’t call out Libya when it was elected to the Human Rights Council, she was absent from the Haiti crisis meeting and was a no-show for the last open meeting scheduled before the planned UN vote to recognize Palestinian statehood. When she actually does show up, she is a miserable failure.
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Rice’s one and only Iran resolution was almost 30 months ago. And it passed with just 12 votes of support – the least support we have ever seen for a Security Council sanctions resolution on Iran. In fact, Rice lost more support with her one resolution than the previous five Iran resolutions combined. She may claim she has repaired relationships with other countries but the evidence shows she’s gotten less support than the team she ridicules.
Whether the issue is Sudan, Egypt, North Korea, Israel or Rwanda, Rice has been either missing in action or unable to deliver a quick and effective resolution.
The Rice record at the UN speaks for itself. Anyone looking objectively at what she has or hasn’t accomplished during her tenure will deduce she has failed to convince UN members to support US priority issues. Nominating Susan Rice for Secretary of State is a mistake not just because of her Sunday show deceptions but because her tenure as America’s representative to the UN has been unworthy of a promotion.
Tags: Richard Grenell
Hillary Clinton as Sec. of State was not much better.
I will say this about Susan Rice, she is rather good looking.
I try to picture what would have happened if George Bush had proffered John Bolton as Secretary of State -- heck, didn’t he have to make him a recess appointment to the U.N.?
Susan Rice is Exhibit “A” of the regime’s policy of leading with their behinds.
Outrage over Rice is the official dish of the Obama Administration.
Why bust Rice’s chops? She’s just doing her master’s bidding.
The problem for Rice was she was a left-wing Israeli hating technocrat of some ability, stuck in a job requiring an American loving tough person. I am sure it does not help that her husband is the ABC news producer. Wonder how that works?
Rush is expounding on the Rice-Petraeus-Benghazi debacle right now.
@ eaglesoars:
Responded on the previous thread.
Our reputation in the world is as low as it has ever been.
eaglesoars wrote:
To prevent her from becoming SOS.
The reports that I am seeing say Petraeus has testified (now) that he knew immediately that the Benghazi attack was terrorism and likely al Qaeda related, and that the CIA reported it as such but that someone unknown changed the talking points before they got to Susan Rice. I call bullshit on the latter statement. If Rice went on those Sunday shows and lied accidentally, both she and Obama would be outraged at whomever changed those talking points. They aren’t, ergo she lied to the public knowingly. Further, Obama went to the UN some two weeks later and he was still making the stupid assertion that this was al over a video on the internet. Why was that?
@ Iron Fist:
The sad part is none of this means a hill of beans.
@ Iron Fist:
As Greg Gutfeld said yesterday on The Five, the regime is trying to reverse engineer this debacle.
Fail.
@ Iron Fist:
Petraeus also stated it was a reaction to the video. But that is not the question, whether it was spontaneous reaction to a stupid video or the most deliberately planned operation in modern history, what did the President do about it????? DCI would know the answer to that.
Iraq demands oil boycott against the USA.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/with_friends_like_these_1.html
How did that go Susan?
(she likely agrees)
Iron Fist wrote:
And who found that video? That came out of left field. That guy is still in jail and he’ll be staying there to keep him quiet.
doriangrey wrote:
point taken
pat wrote:
Don’t we still have all those gps coordinates?
eaglesoars wrote:
I find it odd that both ends of this dizzy Benghazi affair has shadowy Arab figures lurking; the “Mohammed” filmmaker, and this Kelley woman.
Uh-oh! Here we go again.
2 missing in Louisiana oil rig explosion that killed 2, injured 4 others
eaglesoars wrote:
I was about to say the same thing. You can be sure all those missed meetings were missed on orders from the White House or Hillary. Rice is no more than a sock puppet for the Administration.
bluliner10 wrote:
That is why I said now. He had previously testified that it was a reaction to the video. Why did he change his testimony? It was a closed-door hearing, so I don’t know, but surely somebody asked him that question. I’d like to know the answer to it. But you are right, regardless of the cause Obama’s reaction to it is what is key. We still haven’t done anything about it. There were apparently al Qaeda training camps all around Benghazi, and we haven’t bombed one of them yet. This thing smells of collusion, but I doubt we’ll ever get to the truth of it.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I’d like to know more about her twin, Natalie, who a divorce court judge said had problems w/’personal integrity’.
Between the 2 of them they’re over $3 mil in debt and two of Kelley’s homes are being foreclosed.
Nice people. Total frauds.
@ pat:
Ingrates. let this be a lesson, no more Democracy building crap in the Islamic world.
A good little summary (with links) at Instapundit.
bluliner10 wrote:
First and direct after the attack he said it was a terrorist attack but a day later he backed down to the “vid-demonstration”-fairy tail. Why ?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
They are Lebanese Christians. There family field the civil war in Lebanon. Not all Arabs are Muslims or involved with Islam. Lebanese Christian women love the good life and the spotlight. These 2 ladies love the glamor life.
waldensianspirit wrote:
The coordinates we really need are all in Chicago.
I’d bet the ranch -- if I had one -- that his goes right back to those thugs.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
@ Iron Fist:
@ Rodan:
Rush dissecting this issue right now. Audio clips from Congressman King.
@ eaglesoars:
They are just high strung Lebanese Christian women who love the glamorous life. Nothing more and nothing less. I know from my own family about these types.
Rodan wrote:
I too have known ‘the type’ -in my case Coptic Egyptians. Crimeny, those women could melt an Amex card faster than you can say SAKS.
IF, I understand you
sorry, had to do that. I am following your train of thought, and I am a little discouraged by the questioning. Perhaps it is time to put questions into Darrel Issa’s hands and hope he asks them. In a public hearing.
@ eaglesoars:
You got it! My Lebanese-Dominican relatives in DR and here in Miami just love to spend money and date only guys with money. They love the jet set scene and tend to live above their means.
bluliner10 wrote:
It would be nice. There is no reason that the name of whomever changed the tlking points should be classified. No reason, indeed, that they shouldn’t be subpeonaed and forced to testify about who gave them the instructions to do so. We need to get to the bottom of this. We also need to respond to it. The lesson that al Qaeda is learning from this is that they can kill Ambassadors with impugnity. That is a very dangerous lesson to be teaching them. This is a much worse disaster than the Blackhawk Down incident, and has been handled much more shamefully.
Guggi wrote:
Because his legacy, reputation and 4 star pension. If he has any integrity, he will burst the dam on this story. He will lose everything else anyways.
@ Rodan:
And the Copts in Egypt, and the Christians in Lebanon (and Syria), have, I hate to say it, absorbed by osmosis, much of the arab muslim “inshallah” fatalism, and much of their anti-Semitism. islam has poisoned the well.
bluliner10 wrote:
Darrel Issa is a worthless fraud who lives less than 40 miles from me, I have had business dealings with him and I can tell you, he doesn’t do anything that he doesn’t personally profit from. Why has “Fast and Furious” gone absolutely nowhere, because the investigation was never anything more than a political chess move to gain Darrel Issa and the GOP elite Leadership some kind of political leverage.
Rush is saying some female congressional members are saying McCain is just an old, racist, white guy who needs to stop picking on a black woman.
Somehow I don’t think it’s gonna work
bluliner10 wrote:
Maybe I’m being too harsh, but I lost any respect for Patraeus as soon as he agreed to join the Obama admin.
@ Iron Fist:
Ironically, the Blackhawk Down incident was a tactical victory. Which led directly to an operational surrender as the TF pulled out as fast as they could. The story became a modern Tet Offensive.
eaglesoars wrote:
I lost it even before than, right about the time I heard that he approved the new even more restrictive ROE’s.
eaglesoars wrote:
Moi aussi. Also don’t forget the idiotic politically correct “rules of engagement” he initiated that caused so many Americans to be either killed or maimed.
Rodan wrote:
bluliner10 wrote:
Democrat’s excel at snatching Defeat out of the jaws of Victory…
Speranza wrote:
BINGO… My sentiments exactly…
Geraldo Rivera the fool said that General David Petraeus was our greatest general since Eisenhower.
1. Eisenhower was not a great general
2. Has he ever heard of Matthew B. Ridgway?
@ doriangrey:
DG, I don’t doubt your impression either and he has allowed Fast and Furious to get buried. But, he gets a spotlight and a microphone. He needs to use it now.
bluliner10 wrote:
He will not do so because there is nothing in it for him personally.
@ doriangrey:
Also General Petraeus should not have been commenting on the Rev. Terry Jones, Koran book burning plan here in America or on the youtube video itself (which no one apparently had ever even seen).
Two Fat Ladies chef embroiled in race row after claiming visit to Muslim area of Leicester was ‘the most frightening experience of her life’
Chef was ‘surprised any of the people who might object could read what I wrote as it is written in English’
Tory MP Kris Hopkins claims ‘gangs of Muslim men are going round and raping white kids’
Sex gangs report ‘will play down threat of Pakistani men targeting white girls’
just sayin’
eaglesoars wrote:
…and they are aging faster than a flower without water.
@ Speranza:
Marines had Al Gray. Best General of any branch since Chesty Puller.
@ bluliner10:
Yeah, I know. We lost something like 19 men nd killed over a thousand of the enemy. But Clinton turned it into a strategic defeat. That was a political move on Clinton’s part, and was one of the moves that convinced Osama bin Laden that America was weak and could be beaten. I am sure that electing Obama is another such strategic defeat.
doriangrey wrote:
I did not know that.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Maronites fought alongside the IDF in 82 and manned Israel’s security zone in Lebanon till 2000. Look Many Jews hate Arab Christians and many Arab Christians hate Jews. That’s life and It’s not my problem. I have some Arab Christian (Maronite) blood in me and I don’t hate them. I have no problem with Jews. If they hate each other, not my concern nor my fight.
eaglesoars wrote:
He insisted that American soldiers mingle amongst the Afghans on foot instead of riding in their armored vehicles -- that cost us a lot people.
bluliner10 wrote:
Puller wrote the book…my dad served under both he and Howlin Mad Smith…tough guys
Speranza wrote:
He’s a history expert now!
Rodan wrote:
Israeli Jews don’t hate Christians, they are suspicious of Palestinian Christians (at least in the past they were) because so many of the PFLP and PDFLP leaders were Christians.
Rush: Al Queda alive; twinkies dead.
Speranza wrote:
Social justice on th ebattlefield? That’s useful. For the enemy.
bluliner10 wrote:
With all due Respect to our Yanky friends, America’s best General was Nathan Bedford Forrest, followed of course by General Robert E. Lee.
@ Speranza:
Tanker is not a fan of Patreaus. Ask him when he stops by.
Iron Fist wrote:
Gen. Petraeus was a big believer in the “hearts and minds” concept.
@ doriangrey:
Forrest was a good tactical commander, but he lacked the strategic concept. He could have never commanded a Corps on th ebattlefield, let alone an Army. Lee, OTOH< was one of our best, as was Stonewall Jackson. I reckon that they still study Jackson’s Valley Campaign as a piece of brilliant strategic action.
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@ Speranza:
I wasn’t referring to Israeli Jews specifically. I know they are leery of Pali Christians, but they have a soft spot for Maronites. They are grateful that the Lebanese Maronites were their allies.
The historical truth is Jews and Maronites are actually ethnic cousins.
@ Rodan:
Rodan, I’m just trying to point out that, in the Middle East, “Christian” does not necessarily equate to “friend of Israel”.
huckfunn wrote:
I’m really sad about Hostess. I have fond childhood memories involving Twinkies and cupcakes. I feel a part of me died today.
Speranza wrote:
I completely disagree. We need to be on foot more than in vehicles. We have lost significantly more soldiers and Marines to IED’s than we have lost to gunfights.
doriangrey wrote:
I still think that Grant was superior to Lee but the only way to prove that is if they had met on the battlefield with equal numbers of men and resources backing them up. I thought that Grant had a more modern battlefield mind. One of the greatest generals in American history that only Civil War buffs know much about is Major General George Henry Thomas (1816 -70) aka the Rock of Chickamauga, aka the Hammer of Nashville who was a Virginian who stayed loyal to the United States.
Iron Fist wrote:
I’ve walked Gettysburg -- I just don’t see it. I walked the Confederate line at Cemetary Ridge and just scratched my head.
Yes, I’m jumping on the outrage over the Twinkie demise bandwagon. Because this time, it’s personal.
Twinkie, Twinkie, you’re no more
Won’t see you in my food store
Industries just fold, it seems
When unions skim off the creme
Twinkie, Twinkie, you’re no more
Won’t see you in my food store
@ Speranza:
I’m a great believer in Grab ‘em by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow! Wars are won by destroying the enemy’s will and capacity to resist, not convincing them to become your BFF.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Except for Maronites, I never said otherwise. That said, I don’t have a problem with Arab Christians and I support Israel.
Iron Fist wrote:
Forrest was used the right way by the Confederacy as a raider and an independent cavalry commander whose troops fought on foot and who won the most impressive battle of Brices Cross Roads (June10, 1864). Maj. General William T. Sherman said that Forrest was “the most remarkable man the Civil war produced on either side”.
Speranza wrote:
If I’m thinking of the right man, he was pretty much overlooked even during the war. Not given the credit he deserved.
(Hubby Civil WAr fanatic -- married at Burnside Bridge/Antietam)
Iron Fist wrote:
Me too. I ain’t into nation building.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
@ Iron Fist:
@ buzzsawmonkey:
@ Urban Infidel:
@ eaglesoars:
@ Speranza:
Honestly, I am more concerned upset about Hostess going under. If I didn’t have job, i would probably shoot up a union hall.
Rodan wrote:
Me too! See my #73.
I’m really sad about the Hostess stuff. I am going out tonight to drink away the pain. Part of me is dead today. This really hurts.
eaglesoars wrote:
Sherman and Grant used to make comments to each other in correspondence that he was “too slow” but Thomas opposed Sherman’s foolish assault at Kenesaw Mountain which cost over 3,000 casualties. Thomas believed in careful preparation before attacking. As a solder I would want to serve under commanders such as George H. Thomas or James Longstreet.
@ Urban Infidel:
I did. I am so angry about this. This makes me hate Union even more. They are low class trash who ruin people’s lives. Fuck the Unions, I hope Trumka dies and goes to hell.
Rodan wrote:
Why waste the ammo? They just blew themselves up.
I have no idea what they were thinking
@ eaglesoars:
That one I don’t get either. It is a long way for those men to cover unprotected. But it almost succeeded. the way the Federals stormed Missionary Ridge in north Georgia. That would have been doomed on paper, but they carried it off and won the battle. Of course it didn’t help that the commanding General for the South was Bragg. He had a way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I am certain he was a Democrat
@ Speranza:
I would not mind Sherman being reincarnated and going after the Union scum who closed Hostess.
Rodan wrote:
They are the scourge of working people.
Rodan wrote:
Heh heh.
Iron Fist wrote:
Jefferson Davis had a loyalty to incompetents -- Braxton Bragg being exhibit 1. He admired Bragg when Bragg was a captain of artillery during the Mexican War but Bragg in the Civil War was not right in the head.
@ Speranza:
I am really upset over this.
@ Speranza:
Well, you are right about one thing. Grant had superior technology and used it to great effect. Union Troops were issued the Springfield rifled bore Musket while the Confederate Troops were severely hampered by the Enfield’s smooth bore.
eaglesoars wrote:
I’ve done it three times. Lee and Lee alone was at fault for that disaster.
Rodan wrote:
When one business goes under, so goes the supporting industries like packagers, designers, marketers, distributors, advertisers, retailers. It affects everyone.
Iron Fist wrote:
Hubby’s great great (however many ‘greats) grandfather was there (111th NY, I think). It was fixed bayonet time for some areas of the line.
Fascinating stuff when you get to actually see it/be there.
doriangrey wrote:
Towards the end of the war they had (the Federals) repeaters.
Rodan wrote:
I should call my mother.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Yes there is a snowball effect.
@ Speranza:
Oh, Forrest was impressive at what he did, it is just he had risen to the level of his competance. I don’t think he could have commanded an Army. He wasn’t adept at the kind of diplomacy that running an Army requires of his commander. An example would be the way he threatened Braxton Bragg. I understand his frustration with the man, but that was really over the top. You can’t have a show of temper like that when you are having to coordinate Corps commanders, all of whom have egos that have to be massaged to get the best performance out of them.
I have a feeling..this is bigger than people think
Speranza wrote:
I’m no military tactician, so thanks -- I don’t feel so clueless
@ Storagemanager:
One word: Egypt.
@ Speranza:
The South had rifled muskets for the most part by the middle of the war. Ask Burnside at Fredricksberg what he thought of the Southern marksmanship…
Twinkies and Cup Cakes will be traded to another team…fear not
Rodan wrote:
Unions kill jobs.
Rodan wrote:
two….Turkey
Iron Fist wrote:
When Lt. Gen. John C. Pemberton surrendered Vicksburg there were 70,000 new Enfield rifles which had been smuggled over from England in Vicksburg that were so good the Federals exchanged their older rifles for them. I’ll bet you did not know that.
Speranza wrote:
And now we get to watch SEIU and their cohorts start on non-union workers whose personal data Obama just handed over.
eaglesoars wrote:
How the **** did that guy get re-elected?
@ eaglesoars:
I and the wife intend to go someday. I went to Gettysburg as a kid, and remember parts of it. But I want to see it. Lee should have listened to Longstreet, moved around the enemy, and forced him to attack. That was a much better plan than attacking across a mile of open ground. Lee did something similar but less disastrous at Malvern Hill. Anyone but McClellan would have probably stomped Lee after that.
Storagemanager wrote:
Who gives a shit what that guy says?
@ Storagemanager:
Muslim Brotherhood!
this may sound nuts, Bust Israel and Assad might end up being on the same side.
Speranza wrote:
Rodan has a point -- the media.
Rodan wrote:
I agree…heal the Sunni,Shia split and fight Israel..
Speranza wrote:
Nope. I am learning about the Civil War, but it is a process. It is fascinating. I imagine that future generations will look at the re-election of Obama as something akin to Lincoln losing the 1864 election would have been. An unmitigated disaster.
@ Speranza:
Turkey does…as do most of the Sunni states.
Iron Fist wrote:
Lee’s best generalship was n 1864 when he was forced to fight on the defensive. Being a trained engineer he had a great eye for defensive topography and he anticipated just about all of Grant’s moves and inflicted casualties on the Army of the Potomac (as well as the Army of the James) that were at least as equal as the number of men he had in his own army. Lee did this without Longstreet (wounded on day 2 of the Wilderness) and the loss of so many Brigadier generals as well as being an ill man who was in danger of a heart attack almost daily.
Speranza wrote:
Ah yes, those Damned Henry Repeating Rifles, as the Confederates used to say, “Those damned Yankee rifles that they load on Sunday and shoot all week long”..
The Arab spring was really the Muslim Brotherhood ascending..
Storagemanager wrote:
Boo fricking hoo to Turkey. Soon they will have their own problems with the Kurds.
Winners do not need to explain or apologize.
Iron Fist wrote:
You and Hubby should go together -- he never tires of it! And he knows his stuff too!
Iron Fist wrote:
Or Reagan failing to win in 1980.
eaglesoars wrote:
And the morons born from 1986 -- 1994 who overwhelmingly went for Obama..
@ Speranza:
I am readin ga book on strategy in the Civil War right now. I[‘ve just finished up with the Seven Days. I’m also watching a video course on Robert E. Lee and his high command. We’re covering Jubal Early right now. Lee’s Bad Old Man, and he was!
doriangrey wrote:
The army went back to single shot rifles after the war and ironically the Indians had (at least many of the Indians) repeaters at the Little Bighorn and Custer’s 7th Cavalry were still armed with single shots.
@ eaglesoars:
That’d be cool! It’ll be a couple of years, though. We plan on going to New Orleans next year. She has family there that she hasn’t seen in years. We intend to try and hit some Civil War sites on that trip as well. Maybe even detour over to Vicksberg. We’ll see.
Debbie Whats’ername Schultz attacks the House Republicans for being “whiter and more male” than Democrats.
The Democrats are the party of Big Labor and Big Labia.
@ Speranza:
Yep, Springfield 1873 Trapdoor rifles in fact. Not a bad rifle, but way outclassed by lever guns. Even back then people wanted to save money by cutting the military.
Iron Fist wrote:
I liked Old Jubilee. During the Gettysburg campaign he had his division detour to take in Thaddeus Stevens (one of the Radical Republicans who was urging destruction on the South) iron works (that Stevens owned) and was going to burn them. The manager tried to tell him that the iron works really did not make much money and it made no point to destroy them and Early said “That’s not the way Yankees do business” (i.e. keep unprofitable businesses going).
@ Speranza:
The media and the GOP’s image.
Iron Fist wrote:
Definitely visit Vicksburg (as well as the Old Court House Museum in Vicksburg).
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Last time I look, she was fair skinned and had blond hair/blue eyes.
Rodan wrote:
Tell me about it!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Ya know, I’m damn sick and tired of ‘white’ being used as a pejorative. I just might lose my temper.
@ Speranza:
@ Iron Fist:
Remember when Jerusalem was Islam’s 3rd holiest city? I guess Hamas didn’t get the memo.
Iron Fist wrote:
That was an interesting battle to be sure -- but Vicksburg, the town, is quite depressing. As in ‘get me outta here’ depressing.
@ eaglesoars:
She’s white herself.
Thank you for all you did…now drop dead..
Rodan wrote:
I do not look at her except in a mirror reflection, lest I turn to stone.
Rodan wrote:
Yeah, but she has a vagina.
Get with the program, Sparky.
@ Rodan:
I still think Romney and some other investors should buy Hostess, rehire the current management and hire back the 13,500 “non-union” workers. The union workers can go ask that fat fuck Trumpka to find them work.
Speranza wrote:
Yup, some damned fool bean counter figured they would expend to much ammo if they had repeaters.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Even then its a risk!
eaglesoars wrote:
Last I saw Debbie Waffen S.S. Schultz was as pale as a ghost.
@ Carolina Girl:
EXCELLENT idea!
‘specially the Trumpka part……..
Carolina Girl wrote:
That would be a bold move on Romney’s part. I hope someone buys Hostess.
doriangrey wrote:
That’s just about right, the Indians were better armed.
@ Speranza:
I can’t stand her voice.
@ eaglesoars:
There’s a graphic over at Red State — non-union manufacturing is down 14%; UNION manufacturing is down 73%.
@ eaglesoars:
SO she gets a pass.
It is ironic in the extreme that the Phony Feminists like Wasserman Schultz are enraged at the idea that women should be “reduced to” being judged as walking wombs, but are all about Vagina Power.
This is, in effect, reducing women to precisely the sex objects that feminism was supposed to be working against. They are exalting the genitals--the pleasure center—while denigrating, by the exaltation of abortion, the very function which those genitals are supposed to serve and facilitate.
Rodan wrote:
I cannot stand anything about her especially that Forest Hills accent of hers.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I’m sorry for their families -- being out of work is awful -- but they brought it on themselves
I want to see the teachers’ unions implode
Speranza wrote:
You know, that’s where we just need to start striking back at these assholes like Crackhead Barbie:
“Oh really? Why don’t you explain to us how you’re supposed to be immune from criticism and at the same time you want equal treatment? Why don’t you argue from the merits and facts of your position? Because you can’t. You have taken a delusional path and when called on it, when asked to defend your position, you stomp your foot like a five-year-old and name call. What you never, EVER do, is answer the damn question!!”
Another one bites the dust………
@ doriangrey:
It was more about reusing the old percussion rifles that they had. You could retrofit a percussion rifle with a different breachblock and presto-chango now it was a single-shot cartridge rifle. It was all about saving money, though. They didn’t want to pay the price to re-arm the entire military (which had been shrunken anyway) after just fighting the Civil War. They just put it off about 20 years, and then went to the .30-40 Krag, a wholly inadequate cartridge. Then they had to re-tool a few years later to go to the Springfield in .30-06. Government wasn’t ran any better back then than it is now.
@ eaglesoars:
Obama shut down Saturn, one of GM’s most profitable car divisions, because it was manufactured in Tennessee.
I visited Gettysburg a few years ago…been there about 4 times…it was in the morning in October, warm and sunny…there could not have been more than 25 people there spread out across the park…it was if I was alone, very dramatic….it’s a masterpiece of preservation and monument art and architecture…when you stand at the Angle and look out across to Missionary Ridge, it’s inconceivable that Lee would cross that ground with flanking canonfire raking his troops and two stout fences to cross….no man in his right mind would have asked that of his troops
eaglesoars wrote:
Some parts are actually nice and some parts seem dangerous.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That word is not in their dictionary
Actually, there’s someone worse than Washyerhair Schultz -- Kristen Gillibrand. God, I can’t stand that woman.
heysoos wrote:
The problem with Gettysburg is that it is cluttered with monuments. Shiloh and Chancellorsville are in many ways the perfect battlefields.
By the way it is Seminary not Missionary Ridge. Missionary Ridge is in Chattanooga.
Carolina Girl wrote:
What a creep!
heysoos wrote:
On one of our visits I overheard a conversation -- Lee had problematic visibility (the ground has settled considerable since the battle) -- there was a lot of smoke in the air, and his intelligence about the Union line he would be opposing was overly optimistic. To say the least.
@ Storagemanager:
Good.
Carolina Girl wrote:
The Boy King is nothing if not vindictive.
Speranza wrote:
Speranza wrote:
too many I agree, but they are there ans a few are really magnificent…and yeah I get my ridges mixed up…time for another visit!
heysoos wrote:
If you ever get the chance try Bloody Lane (I think that’s what it’s called) at Antietam at dusk.
It’s haunted.
Storagemanager wrote:
Jabari Facebook
@ Carolina Girl:
Punish your enemies! We are so doomed.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yep. Non-union shop. Of course, when the bondholders of GM were kicked to the curb in the bankruptcy (and SHAME on the Supreme Court for upholding that disgrace!), the media did not report that many of the bondholders were the pension plans of state workers, like Indiana and Wisconsin. They lost a boatload of money, but the media never reported on it -- Obama shorted them in order to make sure the unions got more than what was coming to them.
Of course, GM is now flailing and is going to need to file bankruptcy again, but unfortunately for King Asshole, he has no “little people” to short this time -- only the taxpayers so they are trying to keep that as on the down low as possible.
Iron Fist wrote:
Obama is a revanchist.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I’ve heard that Obama likes it on the down low…
Rodan wrote:
So do I!
Rodan wrote:
The Hostess thing is going to have an even bigger impact where I live. They bought the Sweetheart Bread bakery a few years back. So when they shut down, Sweetheart is gone. We lost the bread factory, and 6 outlet stores in the surrounding area.
And the local talk radio had a freaking union clown on saying how it was all Hostess’ fault.
Hundreds of jobs gone just in my town and they can’t deviate from their script.
@ eaglesoars:
I’ve yet to visit Antietam, but I intend to someday
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
He was the incumbent but he ran an insurgency campaign. Weird!
eaglesoars wrote:
We were discussing Little Big Horn on here the other day and I’d like to let people know it’s massively haunted too.
Nearly all park service employees have had multiple experiences.
heysoos wrote:
It is an hour or 1 1/4 hour drive from Gettysburg. From Antietam you can then drive to Harpers Ferry.
Maybe a religious consortium could buy up the Hostess assets and re-open them. You could have a convergence between Hostess and the Lord of Hosts.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Groan!
I cannot believe Fat Fuck Trumka had the nerve to show his face (h/t Weasel Zippers):
I went over to the Politico article. Not a single commenter agreed with Trumka. Best comment in the bunch: “I heard that if I voted for Romney there would be massive layoffs and job losses. They were right.”
Iron Fist wrote:
No, it really was because repeater were considered to wasteful of ammunition.
It is an hour or 1 1/4 hour drive from Gettysburg. From Antietam you can drive to Harpers Ferry.
Speranza wrote:
I’ve driven right past there many times on my way from MI to DC…just never stopped…I will next time tho, gettin old here
Mars wrote:
One of my favorite Battledfields.
@ Speranza:
What’s weirder is that he won! Political “science” isn’t really science. It is philosophy and guesswork, for the most part.
heysoos wrote:
I liked Harpers Ferry particularly John Brown’s “engine house”.
Iron Fist wrote:
Plus Obamaphones™.
Mars wrote:
I did not know that -- but I’m not surprised. I’ve never ‘felt’ anything at Gettysburg -- but Antietam is rife w/’it’
when I hit ‘quote’ crazy stuff happens…usually a twofer…I dunno friends
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/Classes/Jbutler/T340/RussianRevolution/Stalin.jpg
http://c481901.r1.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/trumka-caucus-blog480.gif
Let’s play spot the difference.
@ Speranza:
@ Iron Fist:
It’s easy to win when you have the media and popular culture behind you.
Iron Fist wrote:
The dumb asses (born anywhere from 1986-94). Enjoy living with mommy and daddy for a long time! The thing about Obama is that I do not think he is capable of learning.
@ Carolina Girl:
If I had the power I’d fire every goddamned union worker in the country. Let those people get real jobs or starve.
@ Mars:
he does look like Stalin.
Rodan wrote:
Without the charisma.
Mars wrote:
Trumka looks like a rabid hamster, without the cuteness factor.
Rodan wrote:
What gets me is people over 30 who looked around themselves and said “Hey the past four years were pretty good, I think I’ll have another”.
@ Iron Fist:
I suggest that Bain Capitol buy up Hostess and move all plants to right to work states or rehire the non-union workers and make a success of it.
Fat Fuck is going to have a real image problem with this -- the Teamsters DID renegotiate with Hostess in an effort to help the company -- it was the Bakers that refused to.
eaglesoars wrote:
I visited both Gettysburg and Antietam, thought they were both very peaceful and quaintly nice places. Didn’t notice anything special about either place.
Iron Fist wrote:
The 30-40 was replaced by the 30-03, in response to the 7X57 mauser used by Spain, then Germany loaded a lighter, higher velocity bullet in thier 8x57 mauser and that caused us to redesign the 30-03 into the 30-06 three years later.
From http://www.chuckhawks.com/great_cartridge_families.htm
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
He looks like a no-neck thug.
@ Speranza:
Because, hey, 8% unemployment is as good as it gets. I guess they can’t remember the 5% unemployment during the Bush Administration. That was, as you’ll recall, the worst economy since the Depression…
Speranza wrote:
Interestingly, he plays one in real life.
@ Speranza:
For some it was not a vote for Obama, it was a vote against the GOP. You can thank Akins and Santorum for giving the media ammo to use.
We have to keep this in mind. There has not been a successful Republican Presidency since the 80′s. So some give Obama slack.
Well so much for this morning little blip on the Dow, it’s back into negative territory, trades are being delayed again and the plungers are plunging, but it aint doin no good.
Iron Fist wrote:
Considering that the real unemployment is probably more in the 12 -- 15% range sure 8% is as good as we can hope for under this economically illiterate regime.
@ 205 Iron Fist:
Confidence is the key psychological principle behind economics. From my econ 101 class. If the job creators become doubtful of the government and the economy they will hedge their bet by creating one less job. The velocity of money through the economy slows down and generates less tax revenue.
Obama is making the voting welfare class confident in a guaranteed income to just get by. As we see by the Benghazi waffling and indecision, the great waffler does little to inspire confidence. And the great waffler is unable to substitute anything productive for his lack. lack of experience.
Rodan wrote:
Well I hope nobody suffers but if any one absolutely must let it be those who voted for Obama even though in their heart of hearts they knew better.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
He does look like a leg breaker.
@ Speranza:
Let it burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
doriangrey wrote:
The town of Gettysburg itself is very nice. I never had time to visit the Eisenhower farm which is right outside of it.
@ 201 Carolina Girl: That would be a good thing to do. Take all of Obamas failed businesses and make them sucessful and show why they made new jobs.
Rodan wrote:
Well, thank Heaven the nation’s ladyparts are safe.
Hard to believe what our fellow Americans are willing to settle for.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That’s what many people think. Sad but true.
@ doriangrey:
I guess all the Little Debbie stock’s been bought.
Surprisingly, the NASDAQ has ticked into +1.20, after being down in the a.m.
Wow -- magic iPhone just went from -7.83 to -23.82
@ Rodan:
Yeah, but how am I gonna sell off all these tampons I stockpiled in anticipation of the black market?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Hey, as long as the Government can force the Catholic Church to pay for their abortions they are happy! Who really needs a job when there’s welfare to live on?
@ 211 Speranza: The people who will suffer in the Obama presidency will be the ones who work but are not represented politically or by unions. That is anyone getting tips. Anyone working for a small business. Obama will channel his money to brown up the economy as a form of social justice. So if you are a white male working as a showman in vegas for a small party company don’t expect a bailout. Play the slots everyday. Chances of a future are about even. Latch onto someone like J lo and ride the storm out.
@ 219 Carolina Girl: My alternative is Franz donuts which I hate. I might have to search for a premium grade donut and pay double. Damn you Barack Obama.
darkwords wrote:
Planned Parenthood will help you set up your “stable.”
@ 217 Prebanned: I think wise women with life perspective and balance went for Romney. Woman who have some confidence around men and mutual respect. All the uninformed women went with Obama and voted on an unrealistic fear Obama presented to them.
One type of woman would be good fighting in the IDF the other type is great at wearing a veil.
@ 224 buzzsawmonkey: Where is our professionally produced conservative humor channel on youtube? That would be a good skit.
@ darkwords:
Indeed. Despite what the libturds and thugs like Trumka want to say about Bain, they are in the business of buying companies to make a success out of them.
Dow’s upticking again -- I’m up to -4.68. I don’t see it ending much on a high note, though. Dorian -- isn’t it customary for Friday’s to end well?
In big disasters it’s best to just start doing the small things first. Pick up the trash, take out the trash, until the trash is all gone.
@ 227Carolina Girl: Obama will have the DoJ raid Bain-Hostess for not buying sugar from a certified third world marxist country. Screw all the Iowa fructose farmers.
Speranza wrote:
No disrespect to any of you who are big Civil War Buff’s… But, the Eisenhower farm, (with the exception of the monument) well, ummm, it a big ole corn field. Seen one big ole corn field, ya seen em all…
Again, no insult intended, but Antietam is basically the same thing, big ole corn field, Burnside Bridge is a lovely old Stone Bridge, and Bloody lane is a delightful old unpaved wagon cart rut road through a big ole corn field.
If you didn’t KNOW the history of what happen at either place, then well, they would just be big ole corn fields.
@ Carolina Girl:
I thought the idea of Bain buying Hostess is terrific btw…they would be very welcome down here in Albuquerque
Gee, with Hostess gone, it’s going to ring kind of hollow when Michelle says, “Let ‘em eat cake.”
New Thread.
darkwords wrote:
HAH HAH HAH HAH.@ darkwords:
There are a lot of idiot Americans.
My eldest’s girlfriend is from New York and She talked like she would not vote for Obama…
Of course She is an exceptionally bright girl.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Ya, pretty much. In a crazy and frightening way, if the Dow ends in positive territory today, it will have ended well for the week. My guess is that the Fed is heavily intervening right now in an attempt to prop the market up.
doriangrey wrote:
The Dunker Church in Antietam as well as the cornfield where so many Federal and Confederate troops were killed are interesting.
darkwords wrote:
We will all be hurt -- some more then others. Except government workers are protected.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
The Obamas are proud of getting rid of ‘bad’ food suppliers
Here’s yer potato
Cabbage sloppy joe and boiled zuccini sticks
waldensianspirit wrote:
Though the Hostess bakeries were local, clearly they weren’t “sustainable.”
Dollars to donuts—or Twinkies, if you prefer—the government buys the factories and turns them over to the unions to run.
Great news (
Update: 97 rockets fired from Gaza hit #Israel today (388 since Nov. 14), and Iron Dome intercepted 99 rockets #IsraelUnderFire
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Obama no doubt believes that the means of production should be owned in common…
Speranza wrote:
I honestly cannot tell you what I was expecting to see at either place, what I did see were places that were so peaceful and serene that it was impossible for “ME” to grasp the horror of what had happened there.
Iron Fist wrote:
Precisely. If he can manage to abrogate the shareholders’ rights while intervening, I have no doubt he will do that, in order to “save” the Hostess jobs.
Maybe to appease Michelle he’ll direct the bakeries to make a Chevy Volt-type cupcake, made of whole grains and minimally sweetened, which can then be mandated as a dessert purchase for federally-funded school-lunch programs.
doriangrey wrote:
They are compelling places to visit.