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The opening shots of 2016: Jeb Bush Jr. takes aim at Marco Rubio

by Rodan ( 115 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2016, Progressives, Republican Party, Socialism, Theocratic Progressives, Tranzis at November 21st, 2012 - 11:00 am

I know the Bush family is popular with some on this blog, but Marco Rubio is my Senator and I have a right to speak out and defend him. Far Left Progressives like Charles Johnson have attacked Marco Rubio for his answer to a question in a GQ magazine interview. Rubio basically said its irrelevant to government policies how old the Earth is. But now he is being attacked from another source, the Bush political mafia.

It’s no secret that Jeb Bush is the favorite of the Republican establishment and elements of the base for 2016. Marco Rubio is mentioned as a potential 2016 candidate. He is view as a threat to  Jeb’s aspiration. In a typical mob like act, he send his son; Jeb Bush Jr. to go after Rubio. Using Progressive talking points that would make Charles Johnson proud, the Bush family prince says Rubio’s answer makes the GOP appear anti-science.

 On CNN Tuesday morning, Jeb Bush Jr. — the son of former Florida governor Jeb Bush — said Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) gave “kind of a head-scratching type of answer” to a recent question about the age of the Earth.

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Asked about the comment, Bush called it a “strange question” but also “kind of a strange response.” He suggested Rubio’s support for science did not come through in the interview.

“We’ve got to be a kind of pro-science and pro-technology party. And I think Marco Rubio is just that,” Bush said. “On the Earth question, I guess I have to read more closely in terms of getting a better understanding, but, yeah, kind of a strange response, I guess.”

Bush also said he’s hoping his father will run for president in 2016.

Jeb Bush Jr.’s final answer lets the cat out of the bag. The attack on Marco Rubio by using leftist talking points is about attacking a potential rival to Jeb Bush in 2016. Although they are push overs for Progressives, the Bush political mafia is ruthless with Conservative Republcians. This attack on Rubio is actually pure treachery since Rubio was a political ally of Jeb Bush in Florida politics. But he is in the way and must be destroyed.

Should Rubio run in 2016 and challenge Jeb Bush, expect to see negative stories about him on Conservative blogs and even his citizen status questioned.  Unlike the Democrats, Republcian destroy their up and coming talent if they are not from the correct families. Constitutional Liberty minded Conservatives and Libertarian must stand behind Marco Rubio and fight back against the Bush political mafia and their allies’ upcoming charterer assassination campaign. I will stand behind Rubio or any other Republican attacked by this cabal. I have a 1st Amendment right to speak out and will utilize it.

 

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115 Responses to “The opening shots of 2016: Jeb Bush Jr. takes aim at Marco Rubio”
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  1. 1 | November 21, 2012 11:06 am

    Charles Johnson must be happy with Jeb Bush Jr.


  2. 2 | November 21, 2012 11:07 am

    This is really a big backstab. Rubio and Jeb were political allies. It shows how the Bush family roll over other Republicans in their way.


  3. 3 | November 21, 2012 11:08 am

    The mug shot is priceless.


  4. 4 | November 21, 2012 11:12 am

    This is no real surprise, but Jeb Bush Jr. is a lot like Meghan McCain. Why take either one seriously?


  5. Speranza
    5 | November 21, 2012 11:12 am

    Porky Jr. needs to realize there is no way another person named “Bush” will ever be POTUS.


  6. Storagemanager
    6 | November 21, 2012 11:14 am

    And when they see their Iron Dome defensive missile shield — the extraordinarily successful new technology — shoot down a missile, it gives them, and perhaps NATO, a sense of reassurance about how a clash with Iran might unfold.

    Tehran has long armed Israel’s most determined enemies. Israelis worry that Iran could hand nuclear materials to groups committed to Israel’s destruction, a prospect many see as more realistic than a direct nuclear attack from Iran.

    Israel’s attacks in Gaza are aimed at stopping the rockets and mortar attacks that have gone on for years and have intensified greatly in recent weeks. Israel complained to the U.N. But Israel also wanted to deplete a Hamas arsenal it sees as part of Iran’s preparations in case of war with Israel.

    Israeli officials say the missiles launched by Hamas and Islamic Jihad into Israel’s two largest cities, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, are Iran’s rockets, which Israelis believe were shipped by Iran in separate pieces like a doomsday Ikea package. They were sent by sea to Sudan and then moved through Egypt and into tunnels to Gaza, where they were assembled for firing at Israel with the help of Iranian operatives on the ground in Gaza. Iran and Sudan have denied that such a smuggling operation exists.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/21/opinion/ghitis-israel-hamas-iran/index.html?hpt=hp_c1


  7. heysoos
    7 | November 21, 2012 11:15 am

    standing at the economic abyss, discussing geology…
    it’s like SNL


  8. heysoos
    8 | November 21, 2012 11:17 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    This is no real surprise, but Jeb Bush Jr. is a lot like Meghan McCain. Why take either one seriously?

    because we are a nation of AmIdol junkies…
    how old is the Earth?
    what’s your favorite tree?
    boxers or briefs?….tee hee


  9. Storagemanager
    9 | November 21, 2012 11:18 am

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) made her case for reducing the role of money in politics by claiming current laws forced the president of the United States, “the most famous person in the world, maybe in the whole galaxy” to spend “like, a billion dollars.” [...]

    “Some people say that all that big money didn’t have a big impact on the election,” Pelosi said. “Oh really it did, it didn’t have a much impact because big money countered it. The president of the United States, the most famous person in the world, maybe in the whole galaxy… he had to spend like, a billion dollars, to set the record straight.”
    http://weaselzippers.us/


  10. Storagemanager
    10 | November 21, 2012 11:20 am

    Iran Confirms: ‘We Are Proud to Defend Hamas’ Militarily

    Iran has confirmed that it has sent financial and military aid to Hamas terrorists based in the Gaza Strip. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162361


  11. 11 | November 21, 2012 11:20 am

    @ Storagemanager:

    Well, Pelosie Galore is soo spaced out that she is familiar with the famous “people” for the whole galaxy… :roll:


  12. Storagemanager
    12 | November 21, 2012 11:22 am

    Jordan’s King Abdullah II on Tuesday warned Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu against a ground operation in Gaza.

    According to the official Jordanian Petra news agency, the King spoke over the phone with Netanyahu and warned of the danger of the deteriorating situation in Gaza and the serious implications on the security and stability of the region.

    During the call, the report said, King Abdullah stressed the need to stop all forms of escalation and to open the way for diplomatic efforts of all parties to reach calm, and build on them to support peace efforts in the region.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162341


  13. 13 | November 21, 2012 11:23 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Storagemanager:
    Well, Pelosie Galore is soo spaced out that she is familiar with the famous “people” for the whole galaxy…

    It’s a wonder she can see the stars considering how far up her own ass her head is…


  14. huckfunn
    14 | November 21, 2012 11:25 am

    Rodan wrote:

    The mug shot is priceless.

    Is that the mug shot from when he was caught with a nekid underage girl in his car?


  15. 15 | November 21, 2012 11:26 am

    @ Storagemanager:

    Notice that the so-called “good” Muzz from Jordan doesn’t warn Hamas about how they are damaging relations for the Muslims. It is telling.


  16. Storagemanager
    16 | November 21, 2012 11:28 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Storagemanager:
    Notice that the so-called “good” Muzz from Jordan doesn’t warn Hamas about how they are damaging relations for the Muslims. It is telling.

    He is fighting for his life…the Muslim brotherhood has its eye on Jordan..


  17. Storagemanager
    17 | November 21, 2012 11:30 am

    CAIRO – Egyptian authorities confiscated trucks carrying explosive warheads and a variety of small-arms ammunition smuggled from Libya, security officials said Wednesday.

    A flood of weapons from its western neighbor has added to Egypt’s security concerns as police have yet to fully return to their duties since last year’s uprising. Smuggled weapons often fall into the hands of Islamist militants in the Sinai Peninsula, or pass via underground tunnels to the Gaza Strip, the site of fierce fighting over the past week between Hamas militants and Israeli forces.

    The Egyptian officials said authorities seized the pick-up trucks, carrying 108 warheads for Soviet-designed Grad rockets, near Marsa Matrouh, 270 miles (430 kilometers) northwest of Cairo on the Mediterranean coast. Suspected smugglers had fled the scene.

    Officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to brief reporters.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/21/egypt-confiscates-warheads-smuggled-from-libya/?test=latestnews#ixzz2CsL63ELp


  18. 18 | November 21, 2012 11:32 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    He is fighting for his life…the Muslim brotherhood has its eye on Jordan..

    The joy of the Arab Spring®…


  19. Storagemanager
    19 | November 21, 2012 11:35 am

    Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Munchkin) Outraged House Passed “One-Sided” Resolution Supporting Israel… http://weaselzippers.us/


  20. CynicalConservative
    20 | November 21, 2012 11:35 am

    @ doriangrey:
    What do you make of Intel Corp’s CEO announcing retirement with no clear succession plan in place?

    /galt


  21. 21 | November 21, 2012 11:36 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Storagemanager:
    Notice that the so-called “good” Muzz from Jordan doesn’t warn Hamas about how they are damaging relations for the Muslims. It is telling.

    History has been rewritten about King Abdullah II so as not to offend his Jordain Muslim subjects, he is a Muslim in name only, a former United States Citizen and US Marine, his interests in avoiding an Israeli ground offensive is purely Jordain in nature. Most of the Fakostianians are of Jordanian in origin. He absolutely does not want them attempting to return to Jordan and he does not want his own people getting involved nor does he wish to see an Arab Spring explode in Jordan.

    He knows that his own people would both side with the Fakostianians and attempt to force him to get involved. His position is one purely of self preservation.


  22. 22 | November 21, 2012 11:38 am

    Storagemanager wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ Storagemanager:
    Notice that the so-called “good” Muzz from Jordan doesn’t warn Hamas about how they are damaging relations for the Muslims. It is telling.

    He is fighting for his life…the Muslim brotherhood has its eye on Jordan..

    Yup, that is exactly what it is. Shouldn’t read to much into what King Abdullah II says since it is aimed not at the Israeli’s but the Muslim Brotherhood and his own people.


  23. 23 | November 21, 2012 11:40 am

    @ huckfunn:

    No, follow the link in his name. It’s from his resisting arrest.


  24. Mars
    24 | November 21, 2012 11:40 am

    OT union thugs have destroyed the judge mandated last chance for Twinkies. Hopethe 70% non union thank the 30% union drones properly. Stout hemp rope would be a start.


  25. 25 | November 21, 2012 11:42 am

    Why is the opinion of Jeb Bush, Jr. (who I didn’t know even existed until now) ben remotely relevant to any thing? GQ isn’t exactly known as much more than a magazine for mimbos and Junior pretty much showed why that’s where he belongs. Given that his uncle damned near lost in 2000 because of an unreported DUI, I kinda doubt that dad trotted out his son, once arrested for public drunkenness, as a political spokesman in his quest for the White House.

    As for Jeb’s chances in 2016, for four years the Democrats have pretty laid the whole of mankind’s woes at the feet of George W. Bush and Republicans, for the most part, have dutifully behaved as bobble-heads. I find it highly unlikely that Jeb has a snowball’s chance in hell of even coming close to the nomination.


  26. 26 | November 21, 2012 11:43 am

    @ doriangrey:

    After Syria falls, Jordan is next on the MB’s target list.


  27. 27 | November 21, 2012 11:44 am

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    What do you make of Intel Corp’s CEO announcing retirement with no clear succession plan in place?
    /galt

    Hmmm, that one got past me, if I were to hazard a guess, I would say that their must be a ugly control fight going on between the majority stockholders.

    The board of directors will conduct the process to choose Otellini’s successor and will consider internal and external candidates for the job.

    Sound’s like Paul is being forced out and the board is fighting over who will replace him. My guess is that they will keep the general public as ignorant as possible about what is really going on.


  28. 28 | November 21, 2012 11:44 am

    @ MacDuff:

    I find it highly unlikely that Jeb has a snowball’s chance in hell of even coming close to the nomination.

    he has the establishment and much of the Republican base has an attachment to that family. I hope he would not win the nomination, but it’s not up to me.


  29. heysoos
    29 | November 21, 2012 11:46 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    After Syria falls, Jordan is next on the MB’s target list.

    a neoDominoe Theory…fine with me, ten years from now we’ll have no problem deciding who gets whacked next…think positive!


  30. 30 | November 21, 2012 11:48 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    This is no real surprise, but Jeb Bush Jr. is a lot like Meghan McCain. Why take either one seriously?

    Jeb Jr. is acting on behalf of his family. This is the Bush family’s MO. They get surrogates to go after other Republicans. They view Rubio as a threat and are preparing to destroy him.


  31. 31 | November 21, 2012 11:49 am

    @ heysoos:

    :lol:

    The beauty will be when the Muslim Brotherhood an al-Qaeda fight Hizb’Allah for control of Lebanon. That will be fun to watch.


  32. 32 | November 21, 2012 11:51 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Porky Jr. needs to realize there is no way another person named “Bush” will ever be POTUS.

    The question is does the Establishment and the Bushies know this?


  33. Storagemanager
    33 | November 21, 2012 11:52 am

    The rocket fired toward the Eshkol Regional Council this afternoon injured four IDF soldiers. The soldiers, who sustained light to moderate wounds, were evacuated to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba. (Ilana Curiel, Yoav Zitun) http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-4310095,00.html


  34. 34 | November 21, 2012 11:53 am

    Rodan wrote:

    much of the Republican base has an attachment to that family.

    I don’ tkno wwhere you get that the base has an attachment to teh Bush Family. The Establishment Republicans have an attachment to the family, but the base not so much. W was forced on the base in a weak field of contenders (sound familiar). He barely won, barely won re-election, and only managed that because the Democrats fielded weak candidates against him.


  35. 35 | November 21, 2012 11:54 am

    @ Rodan:

    Pretty damned weak surrogate, if you ask me. If this is the best theyve got, we are in no danger from Jeb Bush.


  36. 36 | November 21, 2012 11:55 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Why is the opinion of Jeb Bush, Jr. (who I didn’t know even existed until now) ben remotely relevant to any thing? GQ isn’t exactly known as much more than a magazine for mimbos and Junior pretty much showed why that’s where he belongs. Given that his uncle damned near lost in 2000 because of an unreported DUI, I kinda doubt that dad trotted out his son, once arrested for public drunkenness, as a political spokesman in his quest for the White House.

    As for Jeb’s chances in 2016, for four years the Democrats have pretty laid the whole of mankind’s woes at the feet of George W. Bush and Republicans, for the most part, have dutifully behaved as bobble-heads. I find it highly unlikely that Jeb has a snowball’s chance in hell of even coming close to the nomination.

    I erred -- I had thought Jr. was in GQ…nonetheless, it’s still a mag for mimbos. They wouldn’t have been interviewing Rubio if he wasn’t so damned handsome but hey, if he can get the mimbo vote, more power to him. It’s good that he’s doing the pop culture thing…..


  37. waldensianspirit
    37 | November 21, 2012 11:56 am

    I shall not vote for Jeb Bush. Work that day instead


  38. 38 | November 21, 2012 11:58 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I’d also like to point out that Paul Otellini is one of the most competent and successful CEO’s on earth if not in America. His extremely dept management of Intel is probably the only thing that has kept AMD from eating Intel alive.

    Right now would probably be a good time to start investing in AMD since there is probably little doubt that AMD will ruthlessly take advantage of the confusion resulting in Paul’s departure.

    AMD and Intel have been locked in a genuinely titanic struggle for the last 25 years and quite honestly I believe it is only Paul Otellini management of Intel that has held AMD at bay. Intel has been reacting to AMD for most of that 25 years and this is perhaps exactly the misstep by Intel that AMD has been waiting for.


  39. 39 | November 21, 2012 12:01 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    I hope you are right.


  40. waldensianspirit
    40 | November 21, 2012 12:02 pm

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    What do you make of Intel Corp’s CEO announcing retirement with no clear succession plan in place?
    /galt

    Probably in negotiations with the Taiwanese


  41. 41 | November 21, 2012 12:03 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The question is does the Establishment and the Bushies know this?

    Actually, I think they do. The name Bush has more baggage than Paris Hilton in Europe and anyone with a brain know that. They’re well aware of the demographic quakes beneath our feet and I think “New Blood” is the phrase that’s going to be on everyone’s lips. Rubio’s practically being anointed at this point.


  42. 42 | November 21, 2012 12:04 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    If the Republicans run Jeb Bush for President, they aren’t trying to win. There’s no way another Bush can win the White House. W guaranteed that when he didn’t fight back against the media smears of him when he was in the White House. When Romney ran, one of Obama’s recurring themes was that Romney would take us “back to the Bush years”. While one might have thought that going back to 5% unemployment might have had some attraction for voters, it clearly didn’t. If the Republicans run Jeb, the campaign commercials will write themselves. It wouldn’t be a serious ticket.


  43. CynicalConservative
    43 | November 21, 2012 12:05 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’d also like to point out that Paul Otellini is one of the most competent and successful CEO’s on earth if not in America. His extremely dept management of Intel is probably the only thing that has kept AMD from eating Intel alive.

    Gotta wonder if he just sees the writing on the wall with regulations, energy and healthcare fiasco and wants to leave at the top instead of riding the inevitable decline into the abyss.

    /galt


  44. 44 | November 21, 2012 12:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I shall not vote for Jeb Bush. Work that day instead

    I will vote Libertarian.


  45. 45 | November 21, 2012 12:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    CynicalConservative wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    What do you make of Intel Corp’s CEO announcing retirement with no clear succession plan in place?
    /galt

    Probably in negotiations with the Taiwanese

    Not likely. To much of Intel’s proprietary patent technology is exclusively under the control of the United States Government for that.


  46. 46 | November 21, 2012 12:11 pm

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    I’d also like to point out that Paul Otellini is one of the most competent and successful CEO’s on earth if not in America. His extremely dept management of Intel is probably the only thing that has kept AMD from eating Intel alive.

    Gotta wonder if he just sees the writing on the wall with regulations, energy and healthcare fiasco and wants to leave at the top instead of riding the inevitable decline into the abyss.
    /galt

    I doubt it, Intel is one of those corporations that Obamacare isn’t going to impact because their labor contract’s already far exceed the mandates of Obamacare.

    Companies like Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Oracle, Sun and Google already have benefit packages for their employes that are so far above the maximum requirements for Obamacare that Obamacare will have little if any impact.


  47. huckfunn
    47 | November 21, 2012 12:11 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    History has been rewritten about King Abdullah II so as not to offend his Jordain Muslim subjects, he is a Muslim in name only, a former United States Citizen and US Marine, his interests in avoiding an Israeli ground offensive is purely Jordain in nature.

    Oops. Abdullah was never a U.S. citizen (his mother was born a Brit subject and his father was Jordanian) and was never in the U.S. Marines. For whatever it’s worth, here’s the Wiki entry.

    Abdullah was born in Amman to King Hussein of Jordan during his marriage to British-born Princess Muna al-Hussein (born Antoinette Avril Gardiner). He was the king’s eldest son and as such he was heir apparent to the throne of Jordan under the 1952 constitution. However, due to unstable times in the 1960s, King Hussein decided to appoint his brother, Prince Hassan bin Talal, as his heir.[2]

    King Abdullah II attended St Edmund’s School, Hindhead, Surrey, before moving on to Eaglebrook School and Deerfield Academy in Deerfield, Massachusetts. He joined the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst in 1980, was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant, and served as a troop commander in the 13th/18th Royal Hussars. In 1982, King Abdullah II attended Pembroke College at Oxford University where he completed a one-year Special Studies course in Middle Eastern Affairs. In 1987, he attended the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.[3] Abdullah would later serve in the Jordanian forces and became Major General in May 1998.


  48. 48 | November 21, 2012 12:14 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Rubio’s practically being anointed at this point.

    Rubio’s the man to beat right now, and he’s already making moves to solidify that position. The interview with GQ is just one small step in that direction. He has a fundraiser in Iowa early next year. If he really wants the position, he needs to get moving early, and it looks like he’s doing just that. Rubio is just the kind of Republican to bring the base out to vote. That has to become the Republican’s first consideration. If there is one thing to fault Romney on, it was his ignoring the base, especially the Tea PArty, throughout his run for the White House. Rubio wouldn’t have that problem from the start. How much he can reach into the Hispanic Demographic is anybody’s guess, though. If they are as locked up for the Democrats as the black vote, then the answer is not very far. But the blacks would vote for Nathan Bedford Forrest if he ran on the Democrat ticket, and it wouldn’t matter if the Republicans ran Frederick Douglass.


  49. Prebanned
    49 | November 21, 2012 12:14 pm

    Rubio is very good at communicating the message of individual liberty.
    Maybe after another four years of socialism people will be ready to listen.
    People want all the benefits of socialism without all the crappy stuff.
    America is too broke to get much out of socialism, we are going down hard.


  50. CynicalConservative
    50 | November 21, 2012 12:15 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Actually, quite the opposite. They’re likely to be hit with the 40% Cadillac excise tax on them because their plans are too good.

    /galt


  51. 51 | November 21, 2012 12:16 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Companies like Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Oracle, Sun and Google already have benefit packages for their employes that are so far above the maximum requirements for Obamacare that Obamacare will have little if any impact.

    Yeah, but the overall decline of the economy will impact all of them. How much will depend on the depth of the next Recession (really a continuation of the Great Recession), but it will impact them.


  52. RIX
    52 | November 21, 2012 12:16 pm

    I believe that Marco Rubio would say that
    the Dinosaur & Hominid did not coexist.
    But I defy anyone to explain how Debbie Wasserman
    Shultz & human beings are coexisting.


  53. Prebanned
    53 | November 21, 2012 12:18 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I believe that Marco Rubio would say that
    the Dinosaur & Hominid did not coexist.
    But I defy anyone to explain how Debbie Wasserman
    Shultz & human beings are coexisting.

    Debbie gets a blood meal from humans, all that makeup is to keep her from bursting into flames in the sunlight.


  54. 54 | November 21, 2012 12:21 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Rubio’s practically being anointed at this point.

    It appears that way, but the knives are coming out for him.


  55. 55 | November 21, 2012 12:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    How much he can reach into the Hispanic Demographic is anybody’s guess, though.

    Bush got 44%, so yes it can be done. hey the South was not Republican until recent times. The key is infrastructure, something the GOP doe not have. Then again, forget about just reaching out to Hispanics, can the Republicans also get a higher percentage of Asians, Young people and single women?


  56. heysoos
    56 | November 21, 2012 12:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Rubio’s practically being anointed at this point.
    It appears that way, but the knives are coming out for him.

    no doubt the donks will work hard to mold a negative Rubio image…he’d better watch his words…he will need constant grooming and 24/7/365 campaign


  57. RIX
    57 | November 21, 2012 12:24 pm

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    Actually, quite the opposite. They’re likely to be hit with the 40% Cadillac excise tax on them because their plans are too good.
    /galt

    The Cadillac Tax doesn’t kick in until 2018.
    The bigger question is, what will the exchanges
    look like?
    For states that don’t get with the program the Feds
    have retained a Canadian firm to set up their exchanges.
    The opportunities for corruption are mind boggling.


  58. Mars
    58 | November 21, 2012 12:25 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Rubio’s practically being anointed at this point.
    It appears that way, but the knives are coming out for him.

    Bring it. Get it done now instead of later when the moron dems will use our own tactics against him.

    Give him his trial by fire then in the primary set up some targets for him to knock down.

    I hope everyone notices, Rubio gave nearly a textbook perfect answer to the gotcha question, yet all over the internet he’s being blasted for being a “nutjob creationist young earther.”

    That should put to rest any lingering belief on here that it is our answers and message that is the problem. The media and the left nuts will spin ANY answer our side gives right back to the parody that they have in their minds.


  59. RIX
    59 | November 21, 2012 12:26 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    Debbie gets a blood meal from humans, all that makeup is to keep her from bursting into flames in the sunlight.

    She is like a botched lab experiment that escaped.
    A clear threat to public safety.


  60. 60 | November 21, 2012 12:26 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I have my doubts about the GOP Establishment. They have big egos and sometimes are not in reality.


  61. Mars
    61 | November 21, 2012 12:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    I have my doubts about the GOP Establishment. They have big egos and sometimes are not in reality.


  62. RIX
    62 | November 21, 2012 12:27 pm

    Later Taters!


  63. 63 | November 21, 2012 12:28 pm

    @ Rodan:

    We’ll see. Asians are too small a demographic to matter much, though every vote helps. Young people voted dumb, and were mostly reached by dumb ads. Likewise single women. They’ll need the State to pay for their birth control when they are unemployed. Can we reach the low-information (i.e. STUPID) voter? We need to try, but the message “Work hard and make something of yourself” doesn’t sell well to a generation used to being given everything that they’ve got.


  64. 64 | November 21, 2012 12:29 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yeah I saw nothing wrong with Rubio’s answer. The media jumped on him and ironicallY Slate defined him. Heck, the GOP establishment has attacked him too.

    On a positive note, Rubio is getting alot of respect from Hip Hop heads. His knowledge of the genre was getting positive reviews at Rap Music forums. This means Rubio might be able to connect with a group of people who don’t vote Republican.

    One commenter said Rubio would be like tony Montana becasue he’s Cuban! :lol:


  65. 65 | November 21, 2012 12:32 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Can we reach the low-information (i.e. STUPID) voter?

    The fact Rubio is a Hip Hop head gives him an opening. I was at several rap forums and was stunned at the amount of respect he was getting. See here’s the problem for the GOP. There has not been a successful Republican presidency since Reagan, So the Republican message falls on deaf ears because people think of the Bush years. Rubio by being able to connect with a different crowd, means that they will listen to him.


  66. 66 | November 21, 2012 12:32 pm

    Mars wrote:

    That should put to rest any lingering belief on here that it is our answers and message that is the problem. The media and the left nuts will spin ANY answer our side gives right back to the parody that they have in their minds.

    Absolute truth. The Media are our biggest enemy. They are what carried Obama into this election, and they are still covering for him now. Journalists are, by and large, lower than $25 buck a fuck hookers. They are the Democrat Party’s body and soul. They have no ethics or principles whatsoever. Look at how they are covering for Benghazi. That’d bring down a Republican President.


  67. 67 | November 21, 2012 12:33 pm

    When are the Republicans going to learn that destroying each other just makes the liberals stronger?


  68. 68 | November 21, 2012 12:35 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The media is the 800 lb Gorilla too many Republicans do not talk about. They are 70% of the problem.


  69. Mars
    69 | November 21, 2012 12:35 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    Can we reach the low-information (i.e. STUPID) voter?
    The fact Rubio is a Hip Hop head gives him an opening. I was at several rap forums and was stunned at the amount of respect he was getting. See here’s the problem for the GOP. There has not been a successful Republican presidency since Reagan, So the Republican message falls on deaf ears because people think of the Bush years. Rubio by being able to connect with a different crowd, means that they will listen to him.

    It’s going to sound weird but the ICP crowd would be a good target right now. They have major hate toward O at the moment because O’s FBI has labeled them as a “gang” and possible terrorist threat.


  70. 70 | November 21, 2012 12:37 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    When are the Republicans going to learn that destroying each other just makes the liberals stronger?

    Recrimination is a Republican sacrament.


  71. 71 | November 21, 2012 12:38 pm

    @ Mars:

    I’m with you, what Republican need to do is position ourselves as the anti-System Party. We actually are the party of freedom and anti-Government. We need to portray the Democrats as the evil system oppressing people.


  72. 72 | November 21, 2012 12:38 pm

    Later, peeps.


  73. 73 | November 21, 2012 12:39 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Like I said, history was rewritten to keep his Muslim citizens from going apeshit. His wife was a Kuwaiti who immigrated to America and became an American Citizen in New York and worked for the evil American Corporation Citibank.

    Abdullah was smuggled into America as a teenager to prevent him being assassinated when his father appointed his uncle ( Prince Hassan bin Talal) heir to the throne. It is Abdullah’s mother who was a British citizen, not his wife.

    Abdullah more or less became King after a military coup when his father died. The true facts have been rewritten for political/religious reasons.


  74. 74 | November 21, 2012 12:43 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    We’ll see. Asians are too small a demographic to matter much, though every vote helps. Young people voted dumb, and were mostly reached by dumb ads. Likewise single women. They’ll need the State to pay for their birth control when they are unemployed. Can we reach the low-information (i.e. STUPID) voter? We need to try, but the message “Work hard and make something of yourself” doesn’t sell well to a generation used to being given everything that they’ve got.

    Unemployed single women…why are they complicating their lives even further by having unprotected sex with random partners who can’t be bothered to provide their own condoms? Unless they’re prostituting themselves, in which case they can use part of their earnings to pay for their own birth control pills.

    It wasn’t so long ago that promiscuous women and girls who were unable to support themselves even by prostitution, were considered mentally ill and were institutionalized. I am not suggesting we go back to doing that. What I am suggesting is that these women DO have something SERIOUSLY wrong in the upstairs department. We are validating a sick lifestyle.

    Lyrics here.


  75. 75 | November 21, 2012 12:44 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Oh, and how do I know this? Because I watched a no longer available interview with Abdullah that was made about a year after he assumed the Throne. He talked about how he met his wife, where they met, his experiences in the US Marine Corps and mostly his absolute love of Harley Davidson motorcycles, which the Jordanian version of the secret service pretty much refused to allow him to ride anymore.


  76. 76 | November 21, 2012 12:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    I’m with you, what Republican need to do is position ourselves as the anti-System Party. We actually are the party of freedom and anti-Government. We need to portray the Democrats as the evil system oppressing people.

    Works for me.


  77. 77 | November 21, 2012 12:49 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    He was on Star Trek.


  78. buzzsawmonkey
    78 | November 21, 2012 12:52 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oh, and how do I know this? Because I watched a no longer available interview with Abdullah that was made about a year after he assumed the Throne. He talked about how he met his wife, where they met, his experiences in the US Marine Corps and mostly his absolute love of Harley Davidson motorcycles, which the Jordanian version of the secret service pretty much refused to allow him to ride anymore.

    I still say that the way to peace in the Middle East is to knock out the “Saudi royal family,” i.e., the brigand tribe the now-defunct British Empire put in power after WWI, and give the Arabian Peninsula back to the Hashemites who used to rule in Mecca before the Brits shipped them to Jordan.

    The Hashemites would have reason to be friendly to the West, and would perhaps assist in rooting out the Wahabism that the Saudi brigands have permitted to flourish.

    Jordan, which comprises the vast bulk of Mandate Palestine, would then be recognized as the sole legitimate “Palestinian state,” to which all “Palestinians” had a “right to return.”

    Israel takes Gaza and the West Bank, and the West takes out Iran’s nuclear program.

    And joy reigns forevermore.


  79. 79 | November 21, 2012 12:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    He was on Star Trek.

    Heh heh heh, indeed he was… :grin:


  80. 80 | November 21, 2012 12:53 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    One Addendum: Lebanon is made a Christian state again!

    I love the rest of your ideas!


  81. 81 | November 21, 2012 12:54 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh, and how do I know this? Because I watched a no longer available interview with Abdullah that was made about a year after he assumed the Throne. He talked about how he met his wife, where they met, his experiences in the US Marine Corps and mostly his absolute love of Harley Davidson motorcycles, which the Jordanian version of the secret service pretty much refused to allow him to ride anymore.
    I still say that the way to peace in the Middle East is to knock out the “Saudi royal family,” i.e., the brigand tribe the now-defunct British Empire put in power after WWI, and give the Arabian Peninsula back to the Hashemites who used to rule in Mecca before the Brits shipped them to Jordan.
    The Hashemites would have reason to be friendly to the West, and would perhaps assist in rooting out the Wahabism that the Saudi brigands have permitted to flourish.
    Jordan, which comprises the vast bulk of Mandate Palestine, would then be recognized as the sole legitimate “Palestinian state,” to which all “Palestinians” had a “right to return.”
    Israel takes Gaza and the West Bank, and the West takes out Iran’s nuclear program.
    And joy reigns forevermore.

    Works for me… :twisted:


  82. 82 | November 21, 2012 12:55 pm

    OK, must run out and buy a Turkey and a Ham and a Pumpkin pie…


  83. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | November 21, 2012 12:55 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    One Addendum: Lebanon is made a Christian state again!

    Fine with me; after all, the entire plan can only be accomplished through the use of Beirut force…


  84. huckfunn
    84 | November 21, 2012 12:58 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Like I said, history was rewritten to keep his Muslim citizens from going apeshit. His wife was a Kuwaiti who immigrated to America and became an American Citizen in New York and worked for the evil American Corporation Citibank.

    Abdullah was smuggled into America as a teenager to prevent him being assassinated when his father appointed his uncle ( Prince Hassan bin Talal) heir to the throne. It is Abdullah’s mother who was a British citizen, not his wife.

    Abdullah more or less became King after a military coup when his father died. The true facts have been rewritten for political/religious reasons.

    Heh. Not sure where you get your “secret” history from but I am quite familiar with Jordan. My aunt was a tuberculosis doctor and missionary in Jordan for about 50 years. She founded the Annoor Sanatorium in Mafraq, Jordan (just outside Amman) in 1965. She served specifically at the pleasure of King Hussein. She died there in 1994 or 5. My sister spent 2 years in Mafraq as a nurse. As I said, Abdulla’s mother was a Brit subject. Abdulla was never a U.S. citizen and was never in the U.S. Marines.


  85. 85 | November 21, 2012 12:59 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol:


  86. 86 | November 21, 2012 1:00 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Not sure where you get your “secret” history from

    Ever heard of the Illuminati! :wink:


  87. 87 | November 21, 2012 1:00 pm

    Another Cease Fire has been announced for Gaza:

    After a deadly eight-day conflict, Israel and Gaza militants agreed to a ceasefire effective Wednesday evening, the Egyptian foreign minister announced at a press conference.

    The cease-fire agreement was later confirmed by Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    This one is apparently real, but I still question whether or not Hamas can actually stop rockets from being fired from Gaza into Israel. All this does is prolong war, though. Another Hudna for the Palestinians to build more rockets. It is useless in the long-term view of things.


  88. huckfunn
    88 | November 21, 2012 1:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Ever heard of the Illuminati!

    :lol:


  89. 89 | November 21, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Muslim Brotherhood Block (Egypt/Turkey/Tunisia/Qatar) wins! They now appear heroes to the Islamic world by making Israel back off Gaza. This is very discouraging and there’s no spin around this. Israel looks weak now to the Muzz. You best bet Obama once again stood by the Muslims and forced Israel to stand down.


  90. buzzsawmonkey
    90 | November 21, 2012 1:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    You best bet Obama once again stood by the Muslims and forced Israel to stand down.

    He wants Israel to behave Morsi-fully.


  91. taxfreekiller
    91 | November 21, 2012 1:08 pm

    Marco Rubio will get a long break from the attacks as soon as Ted Curze gets their attention, he is going to make the libtarts go bat shit crazy soon.

    The libtards and for sure the RINO’s too will attack in a feeding frenzy soon.

    They are digging in his past here in Texas now.


  92. 92 | November 21, 2012 1:09 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Whose behind the coming attacks on Cruz? The Bush family?


  93. 93 | November 21, 2012 1:10 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Nothing good will come out of this.


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    94 | November 21, 2012 1:14 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Nothing good will come out of this.

    “Forget it, Jake. It’s Obamatown.”


  95. taxfreekiller
    95 | November 21, 2012 1:14 pm

    No attacks yet, but there have been PI’s snooping in his past talking to people from Lt. Gov. Deworst camp and law firms he has been up aginst in the past.

    The RINO’s here in Texas are not happy he won.@ Rodan:


  96. 96 | November 21, 2012 1:18 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    The RINO’s here in Texas are not happy he won

    That’s my impression of things. That family of Connecticut transplants have a long reach in Texas politics. Have they ever gone after you?


  97. taxfreekiller
    97 | November 21, 2012 1:29 pm

    Other way around, ms tfk, I and thousands of Texans have gone after them and we have been on the win side a lot, ie lots of new conservative U.S. Congress critters, lots of conservative Texas House members with us now and the Texas Senate is about to come around.

    Our big problem is just like national, the hard core http://www.wallbuilders.org enable the RINO’s to use them as base support, that is how the Bush’s got elected recent.

    Same thing that suppressed the Romney vote.

    They see things with only one eye. Makes it hard to enable them to see clearly enough.

    Rick Perry is the last of them, and he has stumble bumbed enough now national that his goose is cooked.

    Once the national budget goes bust, they too will understand what voting for RINO’s has done to the U.S..@ Rodan:


  98. 98 | November 21, 2012 1:33 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Thanks for that info, it confirms alot of my suspicions.


  99. 99 | November 21, 2012 1:35 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    On a positive note, Rubio is getting alot of respect from Hip Hop heads. His knowledge of the genre was getting positive reviews at Rap Music forums. This means Rubio might be able to connect with a group of people who don’t vote Republican.

    yeah, because about 0.0001% of the population, most of whom don’t even vote, are really THAT important.


  100. 100 | November 21, 2012 1:36 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    OK, must run out and buy a Turkey and a Ham and a Pumpkin pie…

    My turkey is cooked, have the ham, we’ve got two pies and the wife is getting ready to make another. I made the cranberry sauce (with a bit of wine) yesterday, and I just finished steaming the green beans -- I’ll do the rest of the work on those tomorrow. I’ve run the dishwasher twice and I’ll do so again once the wife finishes making her next mess. I cleaned a bathroom and did some vacuuming, too.

    I feel like I’m ahead of the curve here.


  101. 101 | November 21, 2012 1:47 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    i think dorian is buying his turkey a bit late but maybe he has a method of defrosting it overnight.

    Mike C you ARE ahead of the curve. I am too. we had our thanksgiving last Friday. all i have to do tomorrow is watch parades, movies, etc and eat some more fabulous left-overs that i’ve preserved. :-)


  102. 102 | November 21, 2012 1:49 pm

    @ Kirly:

    I like leftovers!

    I suppose the son-in-law will snag one of the turkey legs, but he’s a dead man if he tries to snag them both. When, oh when will we breed a turkey with 4 legs?


  103. 103 | November 21, 2012 1:51 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    OK, must run out and buy a Turkey and a Ham and a Pumpkin pie…
    My turkey is cooked, have the ham, we’ve got two pies and the wife is getting ready to make another. I made the cranberry sauce (with a bit of wine) yesterday, and I just finished steaming the green beans — I’ll do the rest of the work on those tomorrow. I’ve run the dishwasher twice and I’ll do so again once the wife finishes making her next mess. I cleaned a bathroom and did some vacuuming, too.
    I feel like I’m ahead of the curve here.

    Good on you, mom is back in the hospital again, she stopped taking one of her prescription and water started filling her lungs. She might get out tonight, or maybe tomorrow, but either way I’m doing all the cooking and stuff this year. I usually just cook the turkey, but this year it will be everything.

    I’ll start cooking the turkey after I get back from the hospital this afternoon. Like you I plan on getting a running start on tomorrow, cause things could get rather hectic then.


  104. 104 | November 21, 2012 1:52 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    i think dorian is buying his turkey a bit late but maybe he has a method of defrosting it overnight.

    My method was to buy one that wasn’t frozen… :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, their is a madness to my method… :razz:


  105. 105 | November 21, 2012 1:54 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    When, oh when will we breed a turkey with 4 legs?

    ROTFLMAO… That is a good question, unfortunately if that does ever happen, some envior/animal rights nut will try to outlaw them… :evil:


  106. 106 | November 21, 2012 1:54 pm

    i have a Turkey roasting tip that i heard from a Chef on her radio show last year … roast your turkey breast side down… the juices spend more time in the breast as they drip through it. i did it last year and it was delicious.


  107. 107 | November 21, 2012 1:57 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    i have a Turkey roasting tip that i heard from a Chef on her radio show last year … roast your turkey breast side down… the juices spend more time in the breast as they drip through it. i did it last year and it was delicious.

    Nice tip, I’ll definitely try that…


  108. 108 | November 21, 2012 1:57 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    sorry to hear your Mom is ailing.

    doriangrey wrote:

    My method was to buy one that wasn’t frozen… :lol: Yes, their is a madness to my method…

    i thought about that right after i posted. i always get a butterball and they are always frozen as far as i know.

    doriangrey wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:

    When, oh when will we breed a turkey with 4 legs?

    ROTFLMAO… That is a good question, unfortunately if that does ever happen, some envior/animal rights nut will try to outlaw them…

    yeah some loon will freak out over how they are genetically engineered. i’m sure they have no knowledge of how corn was bred to be what it is today.


  109. 109 | November 21, 2012 1:59 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Kirly wrote:

    i have a Turkey roasting tip that i heard from a Chef on her radio show last year … roast your turkey breast side down… the juices spend more time in the breast as they drip through it. i did it last year and it was delicious.

    Nice tip, I’ll definitely try that…

    cool. the radio chef was Jan D’Atri. we didn’t do anything different either, just flipped it breast side down. my sisters and i thought it was fabulous.


  110. 110 | November 21, 2012 2:03 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Good luck with all of that. Hope your mom improves.


  111. 111 | November 21, 2012 2:05 pm

    @ Kirly:

    It’s a alot higher than that. Low Information voters make up a large percentage of the electorate. It’s a reality Republican have to deal with.

    Most of these people are not motivated to vote based on issues, but who they feel can relate to them.


  112. huckfunn
    112 | November 21, 2012 2:06 pm

    @ Kirly:
    @ doriangrey:
    Breast down definitely works. About 3 years ago Mrs. Funn accidently put the turkey in upside down, but it came out just right. Tender, juicy breast. Breast side up makes it dry.


  113. 113 | November 21, 2012 2:06 pm

    On a related note on my last comment, New Thread.


  114. 114 | November 21, 2012 2:18 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    If they can catch them first…


  115. Thumper
    115 | November 21, 2012 2:34 pm

    Will someone name the GOP establisment members so we know who they are and be able to follow their actions?


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