Strange days indeed when PRAVDA, formerly the mouthpiece of the Soviet communists, makes some very true observations about the current state of the American Electorate and the communist that they re-elected as president. If I recall correctly, our GOP candidate, as well as the upper echelon GOP apparatchiks, refused to even suggest that Obama might be a socialist.
Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.
Putin said regarding the military, “…instead of solving the problem, militarization pushes it to a deeper level. It draws away from the economy immense financial and material resources, which could have been used much more efficiently elsewhere.”
Well, any normal individual understands that as true but liberalism is a psychosis . O’bomber even keeps the war going along the Mexican border with projects like “fast and furious” and there is still no sign of ending it. He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.
[...]
President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don’t they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents. Obama has bailed out those businesses that voted for him and increased the debt to over 16 trillion with an ever increasing unemployment rate especially among blacks and other minorities. All the while promoting his agenda.
“We must seek support in the moral values that have ensured the progress of our civilization. Honesty and hard work, responsibility and faith in our strength are bound to bring us success.”- Vladimir Putin
[...]
Russia lost its’ civil war with the Reds and millions suffered torture and death for almost 75 years under the tyranny of the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Russians survived with a new and stronger faith in God and ever growing Christian Church. The question is how long will the once “Land of the Free” remain the United Socialist States of America? Their suffering has only begun. Bye bye Miss American Pie! You know the song you hippies. Sing it! Don’t you remember? The 1971 hit song by American song writer Don McLean:
“And, as I watched him on the stage my hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in Hell could break that Satan’s spell
And, as the flames climbed high into the night to light the sacrificial rite, I saw…
Satan laughing with delight the day the music died
He was singing, bye bye Miss American Pie…
Please continue reading here. HT-Drudge
Amazing to see that in Pravda. You’d never see the New York Times disrespecting the USSR like that.
Iron Fist wrote:
It really is stunning. The quote that really caught my eye was:
@ huckfunn:
It is the truth. In Pravda, no less! They haven’t lost their tabloid writing style, but wow!
@ Iron Fist:
Can’t wait.
I wonder if Rush might have a point of view on this.
This is true, too:
I imagine that there is some schadenfreud for those who went through the collapse of the Soviet Union. They’ll get to see the collape of America, but they will have no joy of it. When America collapses, the whole world will be set back.
American pie hasn’t gone bye-bye quite yet, but Michelle will be sure to outlaw it—for the rest of us—during Obama’s next term, as part of her “war on obesity.”
She will, however, be sure to safeguard her own access to pie.
Iron Fist wrote:
I see the article as more of a lament than schadenfreude although there will be some that gloat.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAsV5-Hv-7U
huckfunn wrote:
We’ve got maybe ten years until we collapse, maybe a bit more, possibly quite a bit less. When we fall, though, it is unlikely that the United States of America will survive. The ties that bind the States have already begun to fray. What really holds Texas to California? Shared values? A common culture? Where are these now? Why should Texans pay taxes to bail California out of her ebt?
Storagemanager wrote:
It’s amazing how much Bill Kristol looks like Jabba the Hutt with good grooming.
Iron Fist wrote:
OMG panic!!!!
Rescue your nest egg and short selling wallstreet now!!!!!
Storagemanager wrote:
She suggested it would be a bad move to put Rice up in a confirmation hearing under oath. Apparently she does not understand that lying under oath with complete aplomb is a required entry-level skill in this Administration—and that Rice, having already achieved the relatively high position of UN Ambassador, will be willing and able to do so without turning a hair.
Storagemanager wrote:
He should leave the GOP and lick O.’s boots. He’s a disgrace.
Iron Fist wrote:
We are headed for a period of utter chaos which is the intent of the left. However, I can’t quite perceive of how the Union dissolves.
@ ferb123:
You think your going to enjoy it when our economy collapses? There’s no solution to our debt problem that looks favorable to Europe. We can hyperinflate our way out of it or simply default, but either way the economy goes down. That means European exports to the United States come to an end. It also means an end to the US military presence in Europe. You may think you like the sound of that, but it comes with two significant problems: it pulls a ton of money out of the European economy, and it frees Europeans to go back to their favorite past-time of killing each other. I can assure you that there will be no America rescue forthcoming from whatever mess you get yourselves into this time.
Iron Fist wrote:
Funny, isn’t it, how Leftists claim they’re all about bunnies and gumdrops and love and free stuff for everyone, but in the event they consistently show themselves to be crabbed little souls cackling gleefully over their schadenfreude at the thought that they’re sticking it to someone else.
Iron Fist wrote:
but you can hedge against this by short selling.
With the profit you can buy gold or real estate.
@ huckfunn:
When the money runs out, the Central Government will simply cease to exist in any meaningful manner. They won’t have money to redistribute. They may try to raise taxes inordinantly, and that may provoke the Slvent States to secede, or they may try to inflate their way out of the debt, but that just collapses the economy and with that goes the Federal Government. Already in places like Detroit you have a general breakdown of society. Think of Detroit on a national scale. It won’ thappen everywhere, but it will happen. The insolvent States will have it worse. California is already collapsing into a Third World state. On the up side, it’ll end the illegal immigration problem. People won’t be trying to get into America any more.
ferb123 wrote:
Was soll denn dieser bescheuerte Mist ?
Wenn du hier nur Unfug treiben willst, sag ich dir auf gut Österreichisch: schleich di.
Look at this BULLSHIT
Storagemanager wrote:
Well, Boehner does look a little like the Grinch with a spray-on tan…
This is possibly the best article Daniel “Sultan Knish” Greenfield
has ever written.
Read it. You’ll feel better.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51287
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
But…does he look like Mr.Potter? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MzraYNG8ZH4
@ Storagemanager:
It reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles where the black guy threatens to “Shoot the n[word]“. Obama is the one taking the economy hostage, and he deftly (with an assist by the MFMF) turns it to where if the Republians don’t do what he wants, well, it’s their fault when the economy comes apart. Personally, I think they should pass several confiscatory tax measures and dare the Democrats to stop them. Riase taxes on those making over $1 million a year (they voted for Obama for the most part), raise levies on the Entertainment Industry, and get rid of the exemption for State and Local taxes (again, hitting the Blue State residents hardest). Make the people who voted for Obama pay the price for their votes.
Guggi wrote:
Whats wrong with my posting?
If everybody here think that economy is going down fast, a good strategy to make a lot of money is to short selling stocks, isnt it?
And a good way to hedge against inflation is to invest in gold or real estate.
@ Iron Fist:
Russians and the Caliphate will fight over Europe. I will support the Russians.
Iron Fist wrote:
It will happen everywhere because people will migrate to those states which still have jobs and then a salary dumping will start. So everyone will be worse off (labor mobility)
@ Iron Fist:
That makes sense. IL, CA and MI are all circling the drain and will be begging the regime for bailouts. Maybe our rock-ribbed GOP representatives will block them. ///
ferb123 wrote:
Wir reden hier von Volkswirtschaften und nicht von Einzelpersonen, du Hirni. Abgesehen davon, wenn der Dollar nichts mehr wert ist, nützen dir deine dämlichen “Erfolge” auch nichts mehr, denn dann sind Millionen nicht mehr wert als heute ein paar tausend.
@ ferb123:
Enjoy living under either the Islamic Caliphate or the Russian Empire. For your sake, pray the Russians win out.
@ huckfunn:
Boehner will cry!
Guggi wrote:
One idea of how it will look is in the book “SURVIVORS ” by James Wesley Rawles
Rodan wrote:
I just sent you an email.
a couple of years ago at LGF I argued with obdicut that CA will come crawling to the feds for a huge bailout and when it did it would affirm their liberal, economic stupidity…he said that the US owes CA, that their mess was driven by the other 49 states, and that since I lived in NM, it was none of my business anyway…real smart guy…several states will have to be bailed out, there is no alternative now…it should breaks the back of union liberalism but it won’t, bet me…we are screwed if CA refuses to take responsibility for itself…but that would be reality
Rodan wrote:
Dont forget China. China is buying the world.
XDDDDDDD
@ ferb123:
China is in Asia. You Europeans will have 2 options, the Russian Empire or the Islamic Caliphate.
@ Guggi:
That is a good point. I don’ tknow how to stop the moility problem. One thing that can be done is ending the Welfare State in th eSolvent States. People won’t migrate where there isn’t the welfare structure to support them, at least the hard-core parasites won’t migrate. You are seeing this in California now. The productive class is fleeing the State, but the parasite class is becomming more intrenched. This will bring down California quicker, of course. The problem with the productive lass migrating out of California is that too many of them bring the Blue State values with them into the Solvent States when they migrate.
Beside this, if there is hyper-inflation nobody is selling anything -- not even food -- because the money has no worth. Germans should know this after the hyper-inflation in 1923.
Morning all. I know this is off topic but, wanted to ask for thoughts and prayers to go out for rain today ,His brother passed away this morning. Thank you.
Good morning. Pravda has been critiquing what they see as
the ultimate demise of America with our drift toward
economic Socialism and loss of liberties.
You can’t overstate the irony.
heysoos wrote:
There’s always an alternative to a bailout. Let them collapse. Detroit has fallen apart. That hasn’t hurt me in Tennessee in the slightest. If all of California collapses into a Detroit-style post-Liberal Third World hell-hole, it is no skin off my nose. I’m smart enough not to invest in California bonds.
@ momcat:
{momcat}
Done, and my condolences.
momcat wrote:
May he find comfort, and may his brother’s soul be elevated.
@ momcat:
Sorry to hear. Please extend my sympathies to Rain.
Iron Fist wrote:
Who is this productive lass, and how can I meet her?
@ momcat:
will do
@ Iron Fist:
Thank you.
Guggi wrote:
thats why after make a lot of money a investment in gold and real estate is a good strategy to hedge against this worst case scenario
Iron Fist wrote:
This is what we in Europe face with the migration of middle class citizens from urban areas to rural areas. Most of them are lefties or greenies and this changes the structure in rural areas.
@ Storagemanager:
Thank you.
Iron Fist wrote:
the feds don’t have the guts to allow that to happen…my money says otherwise, and I hope I’m around to see it…the states will be lined up with their hands out begging, proof that donks ruin everything they touch
Code pink very glad they helped
ferb123 wrote:
Du geistiges Nackerplatzl, kapierst du net, dass hier die Rede von Volkswirtschaften und nicht von deinen feuchten Träumen vom großen Geld ist ? Wenn du hier nichts vernünftiges beizutragen hast, dann noch mal mein guter Rat an dich: schleich di oder du bist hier Geschichte.
@ momcat:
Sorry to hear that.
Guggi wrote:
Other mediums of trade will arise. Barter for food will be one medium of trade. Markets will always win. Where there is a demand, the market will find a way to supply it. Where I live people will also start growing their own food. Most everyone has some land they can cultivate in my area. The big cities, though, won’t be viable. We’ll have to deal with the out-migration from them. It certainly won’t be pretty. It’ll be far worse than the Great Depression, and whne we collapse, I don’t think anyone ccan foresee if or when we’ll rise again. Still, when the former Soviet Union collapsed, there wasn’t famine in Russia. The central government ceased to exist, and the smaller “Republics” took on autonomy. In America, we already have something of a decentralized model in place, though the Left has been working for a century to undermine it.
momcat wrote:
May The Lord grant both of you peace and wisdom whilst you fathom this loss and may Rain’s brother feel the warmth of His love.
Guggi wrote:
Why are posting in german ?
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ferb123 wrote:
With all the muslims in europe, do you think that it will turn out more like bosnia or nigeria?
@ momcat:
OK
Iron Fist wrote:
That’s not migrating they’re metastasizing.
Prebanned wrote:
hmmm, please explain how the bosnia scenario and the nigeria scenario look like.
“In Truth there is no News, and in News there is no Truth.” Think about that….
@ ferb123:
why are you posting at all?…just to prove that there really are people as stupid as yourself?…easy question, how much debt is too much?
@ ferb123:
Europeans will be fighting Muslims.
@ Prebanned:
Actually, I am betting that it turns out real bad for the Mohammedans first. The Europeans have a history of waxing genocidal when they aren’t being restrained by the United States. They also have a long history of fratricidal warfare, so when America collapses I expect the worst. They won’ tbe able to build the Navy to protect the sea lanes, but I bet both Germany and France rearm their land armies rather quickly. And then procede to try to kill each other. When America falls, the world will revert into the late 19th/early 20th Century mode of dealing with international relations, only without the British Navy. It’ll be a mess, but th eUnited States will be too preoccupied coming apart at the seams to do anything about it.
He really did say that. Was he joking?
heysoos wrote:
you are all part of a scientific study
XDDDDD
@ MacDuff:
Good point. They are like plauge victims bringing the disease with them as they flee. I wish there were some way to force them to stay put, though there are people in California that I know that I’d rather see get out of there before it implodes. What’s LA going to look like when the LAPD announces that they won’t enforce the law in certain districts? My guess is something like Beruit circa 1982.
Iron Fist wrote:
I had thought that certain areas of LA were already no-go casbahs ruled by gangs of illegals. Was I misinformed?
ferb123 wrote:
ISLAM IDIOT
@ Iron Fist:
Maybe the Euros will slaughter the Muzz. I would not mind that at all!
Iron Fist wrote:
the US will have it’s own Gaza Strip, subject to periodoc invasion and cleansing
heysoos wrote:
…filled with Gaza Strip Joints.
@ Iron Fist:
California has the nations worst credit rating at A-.
To combat that, Jerry Brown mandated new entitlements
for illegals. Brilliant!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I don’t think it is as official as it is in Detroitistan, though. But it isn’t like they waste a lot of manpower trying to cut crime in certain areas, that is true.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
And Charlie Sheen!
Storagemanager wrote:
His name sounds like a hair-care product scented with that cologne they were plugging in the ’70s.
@ RIX:
That’s because California is suffering a massive lack of poverty and illegal aliens. They have to jack their poverty rates up somehow, and importing people who can’t speak English counts as Diversity. What’s not to love?
[/Not one thin dime to bail out California]
RIX wrote:
not mention his $85b high speed train to know where…of course you’re going to have to help pay for that
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Not all Gang members are illegal. There’s a component, but most are American citizens. They are just gangbangers pure and simple. No ideology just about drugs and money.
Not a joke
Iron Fist wrote:
I think if we asked ourselves what made the “Greatest Generation” so great, the answer would be worldwide economic depression and World War II. Tribulation tends to be the crucible that determines our collective fates, writ large. some individuals/countries/civilizations honor themselves and some dishonor themselves.
One can’t help but wonder if there’s another “Greatest Generation” waiting in the wings or if that character trait has been forever lost.
@ Storagemanager:
The god-king!
@ Iron Fist:
California knows that it will get a bail out.
They are like kids living in moms basement.spending
all of their money on weed. They know that mom will
cover.
Muslims never have any trouble importing weapons into an area with a weak government.
Storagemanager wrote:
He really puts the “mess” in “messiah.” In fact, if you break it down:
“Mess”: Obama’s policies
“I”: It’s always all about him, all the time.
“Ah”: Obama’s tongue-tied speaking style, when he’s off Teleprompter.
@ MacDuff:
There could be, but the modern Republican Party hates young people. This has pushed them into the arms of the Democrats. So there’s no greatest generation waiting. That train has past and now we just have to look after ourselves.
@ RIX:
They expect a bailout.
@ heysoos:
And you have to drive about half way from L.A to get
the train to Las Vegas.
This is just corruption.
Rodan wrote:
It doesn’t hate young people. It just wants those dang whippersnappers to stay off its lawn.
Rodan wrote:
Sure they do & they will get it.
Gays are joining the Republican party to change it from the inside out…it is a tactic to make both parties the same…blind sheep…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That’s how the GOP comes across and it has lost a whole generation of voters.
@ RIX:
Boehner will cry!
If both parties have the same view…the same morals…then they can git rid of one and just give power to the other….very subtle trick..
MacDuff wrote:
What really made that generation the “Greatest” was simply control of the press. How do they merit that moniker more than the generation that fought the Civil War? Be that as it may, the Baby Boom generation snuffed that trait out. We don’ thave what it takes to sacrifice for the greater good as a nation anymore. The “Me” Generation has begat the Free Shit Army, and that is destroying the country as surely as any cancer destroys the body.
Rodan wrote:
That’s such an effective tactic./
Rodan wrote:
Dude, chill. That is what the Democrats say, and it is clear that they have convinced you, but it is about as true as the GOP’s “War on Women”.
@ Storagemanager:
If they have different economic polcies and foreign policy, that is where the divide is. But the problem is the GOP has the same Pro-Islamic foreign policy as the Democrtas. Both parties are statists in my book.
Rodan wrote:
Because Rodan..there are agents in the party…only there to change it and make it the same as the Demorats…
They are called progressive’s and they are in both parties to make change to America.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&pq=progressive&cp=14&gs_id=x&xhr=t&q=progressive+party&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=progressive+pa&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=84f5e54452ebb3b9&bpcl=38897761&biw=1680&bih=904
Well, on the bright side, it only took Russia 75 years to begin climbing back into the light of freedom.
@ Rodan:
Socialists have always won the votes of the young. This isn’t unique to this time and place, nor to the two parties in place. I know you wish that the GOP would embrace rap music and MTV, but that won’t win us very many votes. WHat will win the votes of the young is time. As people age, they learn. Even the invincible ignorance of this generation of young people isn’t impervious to learning, thought the Teachers’ Unions have done their level best to make is difficult for them to ever learn anything. If you want to look at where the real problem for the GOP is, look no further than the sorry excuse that is called “Public Education” these days. It is nothing but Left-wing indoctrination. They no longer even teach reading and math to the degree tyhat they did when I came through school, and it was already dumbed down significantly when I came through.
Rodan wrote:
starts as a trickle, just a drip…
I hate the feds
1012…read the between the words..
@ Prebanned:
And maybe in 75 years America will recover from Obama. Who am I kidding? It’ll take much longr than that to pay off the Obama Debt. Obama is doing his level best to make sure that that can never occur.
@ Storagemanager:
Sorry should be 1912…..that is Teddy…who was an R…and became a Bull Moose…
Iron Fist wrote:
The truth that offends you the most is…. They had those Blue State values when they moved to California in the first damned place, from shitholes like Tennessee.
Iron Fist wrote:
Because Socialists promise the young what they want—an increase in their allowance and freebies so they don’t have to spend their allowance on as many things.
Teddy Roosevelt was the leader of the first progressive party…then Wilson a Demorat would lead it…it is in both parties..McCain is one…
Supreme Court revives challenge to ObamaCare on religious-liberty grounds
@ Iron Fist:
Republcians are dimsissisve of younger voters and mock them. This gives Democrats the ammo to use against them. If the GOP has spent the last 20 years trying to win the hearts and minds of younger voters, we would not be in this mess. I am 37 and my age group is the last one where Republicans have any equality with Dems. Under 35, It is socially unacceptable to be a Republican. GOP arrogance and Media/Democratic propaganda has worked. Something has to be done, but I don’t see it happening.
I agree with you, I think the US is heading for a breakup in 10 years. So all this is moot.
Some ask….then why vote R….because the R’s are not all in…like the Demorats…
Storagemanager wrote:
Yes, their only half in…
@ Iron Fist:
Reagan won younger voters in 80 and 84. Poppy Bush running on Reagan’s coattails carried them in 88. Many went to Perot in in 92. Heck Bush in 2000 split younger voters with Gore. It’s from 2004 on that the youth vote goes Democratic. It burned the GOP in 08 and 12.
doriangrey wrote:
Fuck you, motherfucker. Your problem is native born. Live with it and die with it.
@ Iron Fist:
We are not going to recover, on this you are correct.
Bush was a progressive ….the bailout proved that.
try this on for size….silencing ‘national security threats’
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51313
@ doriangrey:
The hippie movemeny started in San Francisco, not Nashville last time I recall.
@ Iron Fist:
And Dorian:
Go read the list. The only states in the entire South that makes their list are Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina.
if Tenn is a shithole, I’d hate to think what New Mexico is….regardless I’d prefer either over CA
Storagemanager wrote:
You are bad boy for saying that!
/////
The STATE wants in your bed
heysoos wrote:
New Mexico is number one on the list in the Forbes article I linked. Still, what that is looking at is simple fiscal collapse. California’s problems are manifold. They have the highest poverty rate in the entire country. It didn’t used to be that way, but electing Democrats has a way of impoverishing a State. California just made the Democrats a super-majority in both houses of their Congress, and, then, there is Governor Jerry Brown. What more can I say? It wasn’t Tennessee that inflicted that on California. I reckon California a suicide.
Iron Fist wrote:
Math is hard, apparently to hard for folks from shitholes like Tennessee. Over half of California’s legal resident population come from other shithole States like Tennessee.
They are the locust class, they migrate to wherever the good jobs are. And they bring their Blue State values with them.
Back in the 70′s and 80′s California was THE most financially prosperous State in the Union, the 6th most powerful economy on earth (It’s still the 8th most powerful economy on Earth and 1/6th of the entire United states Economy).
Like I said MATH is obviously to hard for anyone from Tennessee.
Arkansas went 65% for Romney, we are still doomed.
Obama did Kansas a favor…he took Kathleen Sebelius to D.C. and in 2010…we took our state back….thank you O
Iron Fist wrote:
true, but CA ain’t buying it…it’s somebody else’s fault..as for NM, we depend heavily on defense dollars, so our hit will be collateral damage, rather than self induced like CA
@ doriangrey:
Again, fuck you, motherfucker. We’re not talking about California under Reagan. Time has passed you on. You might not have noticed this, but California hasn’t been a shining star for a very long time. You have the highest poverty rate in the nation, roughly a third of the illegal immigrants in the nation thanks to your lidicrous immigration policies, and the jobs are leaving your state. IIRC, you have one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, as well. Be that as it may, you can’t deny that you just elected a super-majority of Democrats to both your House and Senate. You also raised taxes on your most productive citizens, encouraging them to go be productive somewhere else. You are, like Detroit, a living example of why not to ever give the Democrats power.
Meet Obamacare
Rodan wrote:
The hippie movement didn’t start in San Fransicko, San Fransicko was it’s final destination. It started in places like Tennessee and Kansas where young people in college listened to the dreams of Utopia fed to them by their Marxist professors, who then decided to abandon their parent’s restrictive religious beliefs in favor of doing whatever felt good.
The hippie movement started at places like Kent State and Harvard where people like Timothy Leary told their students to “tune in, turn on, drop out”.
Life is indeed stranger than fiction.
Wife spoke to inlaws last night. Moscow is preparing for a 14 Dec. demonstration against the Putin government-- expecting +100,000 in the street. Also, people are preparing for the end of the world on 21 Dec. Russian media mentions people are building bunkers-- those that can afford it.
doriangrey wrote:
I know Geography is hard for you, since you live in teh Center of the Universe, but neither of those places is in Tennessee.
@ doriangrey:
I readily admit NY is a basketcase. WHy do you get angry when people point out California is a basketcase. You advocated dividing California once. I know you have California priode, but chill out. Your anger should be at the people in Cali who support these polciies.
@ Iron Fist:
I thought Woodstock was near Nashville!
I was born and raised in California…left in 06 and never looked back…
@ Rodan:
That’s Bonnaroo!
New Thread.
Iron Fist wrote:
Wow, such ignorance. Highest poverty rate? No, that would be Mississippi,
1/3rd of all illegal immigrants? Oh please, learn some fucking math. There are 20 million illegal immigrates in the US, 2 million of them live in California. You are at least capable of grasping the difference between 33 percent and 10 percent, right? Even in Tennessee they have to teach you at least that much math.
@ heysoos:
New Mexico’s finances have been tenuous for decades, for a number of reasons. One problem is that so much of the state is under the control of the federal government. Another is a large Native American population living on reservations, which are just about the worst places in America to live. Many people on the Navajo reservation don’t even have electricity, for example. Those folks aren’t contributing to the tax base either.
Fortunately, New Mexico is a relatively small problem, in the grand scheme of things, since it has such a small population. There are a number of cities in America that are in worse financial shape.
@ doriangrey:
Again, very politely, fuck you, motherfucker:
I was wrong on the 1/3. it is 1/3 of your population:
Enjoy your decline. You all are going to make a spectacular Third World Country.
Iron Fist wrote:
I was wrong on the 1/3. it is 1/3 of your population:
The greatest impact has been on the California economy, where illegal immigrants comprise approximately 1/3 of the total population.
Enjoy your decline. You all are going to make a spectacular Third World Country.
@ ferb123:
You know, you moron you, there is something called regulation 72t which includes a stipulation concerning short selling. Since it is a tactic that by its very nature requires a margin account, and the ability to make good on a shit ton of debt, people must prove their financial bona fides on three different pieces of regulatory oversight before they take that particular strategy on. Giving the advice to short sell in a forum where you know nobody’s actual name, let alone understand sufficiently their financial circumstances is at best irresponsible. Giving that advice in a blanket manner would have all or your licenses yanked, should you hold any. Doing so in this forum could land you in bigger trouble.
Just so’s you all know, short selling could potentially result in unlimited financial loss. That’s a hell of a lot of risk to take on, even if you’re certain Armageddon is upon us.
Rodan wrote:
Well for one, the rumors of California’s demise, or impending demise are greatly exaggerated and for two IF’s constant California bashing is really fucking annoying, it borders on pathological. There are 37,691,912 legal residents here. There are almost as many people just in San Diego County as their are in the entire state of Tennessee.
@ Iron Fist:
ROTFLMAO….. You are quoting Huff and Puff to support your assertion… REllY……….
Iron Fist wrote:
ROTFLMAO… Math is obviously way way way to hard for anyone from Tennessee. The only thing less reliable then Huff and Puff.. Is wikipedia, that’s so damned stupid even someone from Tennessee should be smart enough to not fall for it.
California’s legal resident population is 37 million, our illegal immigrate population is just slightly north of 2 million. Only the staggeringly math challenged could possible believe that 2 is 33% of 37…
@ Flyovercountry:
Not sure what the point would be, anyway.
Having a really big pile of worthless money won’t get you much.
@ doriangrey:
And the only thing less reliable than either of those sources are assertions from anonymous posters on a blog.
I notice that you haven’t bothered to back up any of your claims at all. Where does your 2 million illegals figure come from, and what makes you think they aren’t counted in the official population figures?
@ doriangrey:
Hey, I’m not the one who’s defending electing a Democrat Super-Majority to my Congress while in the middle of an economic collapse. That would be you. Brilliant move, that. You are doubling-down on American bailing your sorry asses out, but with a Republican congress, that isn’t likely to happen.
lobo91 wrote:
New studies find state’s illegal immigrant population shrinking
@ doriangrey:
I usually avoid citing left-wing “think tanks” for statistics.
@ Iron Fist:
One more reason that I’m glad I left California.
The people are as crazy as their politicians they elect.
@ Calo:
My wife is from California. When the time came to decide which of us was moving, there was no real question. I could have found a job in Silly Valley, but I could have never tolerated the politics of the State.
Iron Fist wrote:
The stupid and the hate are strong with you. I’m neither doubling down nor hoping for a bail out, quiet the opposite actually. I’m patiently waiting for the State Government to melt down and NOT get any Federal aid. Because when that inevitably happens Sacramento will be forced to abandon their insane spending practices.
County by county California will slowly but inescapably be forced to become fiscally solvent. They will either voluntarily become fiscally solvent as San Diego and San Jose have begun doing, or like San Bernardino and Orange County they will end up in bankruptcy court and have it imposed on them by the bankruptcy courts.
Eventually Sacramento will be reigned in, but since it is a math thing, I really don’t expect you to understand.
@ soulstraw:
GOOD LORD!!!
What rock did you crawl out from?
@ soulstraw:
Hhmmmmmm Pravada is the Russian State run newspaper…you need to bitch at the RUSSIANS! I ALSO WOULD THINK THE RUSSIANS STILL KNOW A COMMUNIST WHEN THEY SEE ONE!!!
And on that note….GOOD NIGHT IN GEORGIA!!!! A HYSTERICAL OBAMA VOTER WHO DOESN’T REALIZE OBAMA WAS RE-ELECTED. Get over it.
@ Calo:
Ah you have finally met a obama voter. Yep they are a bit crazed and oh so gracious about obama winning a second term/NOT!
@ Lily:
It’s like a family reunion for you, eh?
@ Calo:
LOL! Hey I warned you! Now how do you keep cool with something like that? Only if you are heavily sedated.
Lily wrote:
I had to spend the weekend listening to the opposite end of the spectrum at the gun show.
Iron Fist wrote:
It could go at literally ANY instant, triggered by who-knows-what tipping point or preference cascade.
lobo91 wrote:
You can NEVER time these things exactly, except by dumb luck, and that’s a truly stupid gamble.
Flyovercountry wrote:
I am NOT a financial adviser and I do NOT give financial advice. That said, for speculators who are inclined toward bearishness, you can quantify your risk if you speculate with put options -- not so with short sales. Stupid idea.
@ Storagemanager:
Voyeurs and Peeping Toms.
MacDuff wrote:
We don’t have the shared moral values that could allow it to emerge.