The new lord and savior of America, the almighty god-king Obama has not stop campaigning. He is making daily appearances demonizing Republicans over the fiscal cliff. The only item Obama even mentions is raising taxes on those making $250,000. As with the election, Obama is winning the argument. Over 60% of Americans support raising taxes on those making over $250,000 a year. The truth is raising rates on that segment of tax payers will only bring in an extra 80 billion a year. Personally, I think the Republicans should counter propose an call for raising rates on those making over 1 million a year, a 30% Entertainment industry excise tax and eliminate state income tax deductions. This will hit the affluent Democratic voters.
The Republicans lacking imagination have not counter propose. Instead they are offering to eliminate some tax deductions to raise revenues. This is not good enough for Obama, who continues to demagogue the issue and has not come up with any concessions of his own.
House Republican leaders said Wednesday they’ve done their job in negotiations to solve the looming fiscal crisis, while President Obama is returning to the campaign trail to sell tax hikes that studies show won’t have much, if any, effect on solving the problem.
“We have done our part by putting revenue on the table,” said House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.
Cantor and fellow House leaders have agreed to close tax loopholes to generate revenue to reduce the $1.1 trillion annual deficit. But they argue the president has yet to say publicly what cuts he will make to the federal budget — specifically to costly entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — to reduce the deficit.
They also say the president’s plan to extend tax cuts only to middle-class Americans will not generate enough revenue to significantly reduce the deficit.
Jamie Foxx’s lord and savior is not serious about the budget deficit. He honestly could care less about it and just wants to raise taxes on people making over 250,000 to make people feel better. The Obama regime is about feelings and not concrete results. The almighty philosophizer king has a combination of a incompetent opposition and an adoring media, which allows him to get away with it. 51% of Americans love this man and don’t care about any results.
Tags: Budget, Fiscal Cliff
“Old White Men.”
Comments welcomed.
They want to bankrupt the nation.
After the lunch…Mitt and Obama will have a photo op….we shall see what is said….
Speranza wrote:
Yup, all in the name of social justice. Hey I bet you agree with my tax plan!
Hope this link works.
Argentina’s bond debt, a ruling by a U.S. Judge in NY and how and when things come undone.
The past, the facts and where the dumb ass commie Democrats and Obama have U.S. going.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/11/26/feds-2-6t-payments-system-risk-paralysis-as-judge-orders-argentina-to-pay-defaulted-bonds/
In Forbes 11/26/2012 title: Fed’s $2.6T Payments System Risks Paralysis As Judge Orders Argentina To Pay Defaulted Bonds.
some updates in the article now.
Speranza wrote:
That is exactly right. It seems so obvious to us, but not one Republican has the balls to actually say that. They go on pretending that Obama is trying to work out some Grand Compromise. He isn’t.
crap
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/11/26/feds-2-6t-payments-system-risks-paralysis-as-judge-orders-argentina-to-pay-defaulted-bonds/@ taxfreekiller:
The modus operandi is similiar to that of the Islamic terrorist: the more carnage they create, the better.
@ taxfreekiller:
Argentina once had the world’s 4th largest GDP. Its a shame what happened. It is all due to Juan Peron. It has been 40 years since Peron’s last government and they are still paying the price. Something for us to ponder.
@ Iron Fist:
He doesn’t care. He wants to demonize. Obama is still campaigning.
The choice seems to be default and make our bond/debt holders take 50 cents on the dollar or less or print money and do the same to them.
Our two party evil money cult play a game they know little about.
Note in the artilce this creditor has “taken possession of an Argentine Navy, flagship vessel.”
appears GOP leaders are buying into the messiah gig…I think they are scared of BO…what else is it?..are they so old or stupid they cannot read the writing on the wall?…they were elected to serve…so this is how they serve by rolling over…forget propriety, does anyone have the balls to call out BO?…no guts, no glory
We are headed to world wide gang warfare, the gang with the best gun slingers ie (hired guns) etal will win.
The elites will not fight, but our sons and daughters will be used to defend the shit these fools have done to U.S. all.
heysoos wrote:
They live in a bubble. They do believe he’s some divine being who they must bow to!
Rodan wrote:
It is all he’s got. He intends to do two things here. Destroy the Republican Party in detail and destroy the American economy. If the Republicans completely submit to him, they already have the commercials ready to run against them for raising taxes. If they don’t completely submit, he wrecks the economy by going off the Fiscal Cliff. He figures that will damage the Republican Party more than it will damage him, and with the compliant media in his pocket, he is probably right.
The U.S.A. soon will be the ‘used to BE”, a soon down fall all due to dumb ass commie Democrats enabled by RINO’s..
Cristina Kirchner has the same ability that B. Obama has.
@ Iron Fist:
That is why Republicans should do what I propose. Offer tax increases for people making over 1 Million, eliminating State Income Tax deductions which benefits blue states and a 30% tax on the Entertainment industry. If Obama balks, say he is protecting the rich. But they are too stupid to even think of this.
@ Rodan:
We’ll be paying the price for the Obama Administration for the rest of my life.
@ taxfreekiller:
They are both Socialists.
Iron Fist wrote:
Hey Argentina is still a mess from Juan Peron 40 years later. Odds, we will still be a mess because of Obama. The question is, will America still be around?
vote present, give them twice what they want…I say this with great reluctance…but be thoroughly prepared with alternatives and candidates…the numbers are against us…and pray for a populist tax revolt
heysoos wrote:
Let it Burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the guy who is causing this fuss in court and for counties who borrow to much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Singer_(businessman)
Seems some of the elite get it.
@ taxfreekiller:
we need an American version of a car swarm…we need our elected officials to fear us…fuckers will do and say anything to get re-elected
heysoos wrote:
The Media-Entertainment Industrial Complex needs to be challenged.
So odd, Argentina’s bonds all of them come to trouble, Greece, Spain, others not far behind, inflation has to be going on world wide,,,,,
yet gold falls like a rock……very odd the markets
Speranza wrote:
It appears so doesn’t it? But wait Big Bird was so important to the voters. Now more and more people are thinking obama is type of savior it’s a pathology I don’t know how you can break.
Rodan wrote:
Coming soon to your local multiplex: “Tavis Smiley’s People” and “Tinker (with the economy), Tailor (the tax code), Soldier (down the river), Spy (on your emails).”
taxfreekiller wrote:
Italy is in the danger zone as well.
we need some sort of reality TV show that helps expose liberalism…take some Ophone bimbo and ask her or her seven kids to point to America on a map…ask them to add 19+1 in their head…expose the insanity of the average voter…make the GOP the party of at least half smart people…I remember after the last election when welfare bots thought Palin was BO’s VP….bring the house….the votes are not enough, people need to get interested in the original America again….nostalgia politics
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I wish someone with money would make those type of movies.
Storagemanager wrote:
GOOD NIGHT IN GEORIGA!!! Are you really bringing this up to this thread from the last one???? The HORRORS….Romney accepted an invitation for lunch from the president. This is silly!
I long for the day that we have Republicans in office that are conservatives, and the conservatives have a spine.
We need to make sure the debt issue and all of the other problems are laid squarely at the feet of Obama and his supporters. It needs to be unequivocal.
But no. We are going to see all kinds of compromise from the Republicans. There will be lots of bipartisan agreements and it is all going to end up being the Republicans fault, Bush’s fault and even romney’s fault that the country will sink further into the debt quagmire and an extended recession. but it will be called a long and slow recovery.
Rodan wrote:
He is isn’t he? No one told him he won the election? Or he is doing what he does best portray 1/2 Americans as evil and his anti-American crap he is always talking about. While Iran gets nukes. While the economy of the United States spirals out of control he sits at his own alter and worships himself.
Rodan wrote:
I’d like to see some cartoons that have a comic idiot bullfrog that talks like Al Sharpton.
I’d like to see a “conservative” Bugs Bunny-type character besting a Yosemite Sam-type community organizer and a government-bureaucrat Daffy Duck.
heysoos wrote:
These people are on TV everynight. Jersey Shore, Teenage moms, hell the stupid video shows…every talk, small claims court, advice, et al shows the Americans how stupid we all are.
@ Lily:
If it’s night in Georgia, then it’s morning in Hong Kong!
@ Lily:
He loves to campaign. Its what he’s good at. Governing, is another matter!
bluliner10 wrote:
I want to see the reality show “Human Shields,” where a bunch of moonbats captured by al Qaeda vote every week as to who gets their head sawn off.
@ bluliner10:
But no one connects the dots. That is why there should be a showing called Obama voters. It would be hysterical.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
How about Jihad vs. Jihad. The show would be Hizballah vs. Al-Qaeda!
Rodan wrote:
I wouldn’t mind a weight-reduction show, “Lose that Ugly Fatah!”
Apropos this morning’s thread, check out the link in #1.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I want to see a show called the Adventures of St. Pancake!
It’s about the little bull-dozer that could.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Genius! I am good with that. Already said I am a bad Catholic because I support the death penalty…if it comes from Sharia violations … good to go!
@ Rodan:
America’s dumbest citizens! Get some D List hacks to make sarcastic comments…
Rodan wrote:
Easy to say but hard to do. Too many innocents will suffer and one of those innocents will be my son. So many people believe in this scorched earth mentalitiy but too many will suffer because of it. Instead patriots should stand up for the innocents who had nothing to do with obama being re-elected. So let’s have it then!!!!!!! Not me I will see the suffering up close and personal and it isn’t going to be pretty if that’s the way you want to go just to see an obama voter suffer.
@ Lily:
SO what would you do? Obama is not interested in a deal.
Rodan wrote:
LOL! I’m sure it is!
How would your son suffer if the Obamaotts get what they want?
Rodan wrote:
Yep couldn’t agree more..how people think he is great is well beyond sane. But a lot of people voted for him because of obamacare …there is going to be a shock coming to them concerning that.
Obama’s lies are weaponized bull shit.
It might end up being a ‘social’ event but it won’t be justice
Rodan wrote:
Great question. I don’t know. Obama if viewed as some type of savior by too many in this country. But being the flip-side of the obama coin? There has to be something. I have no pity or sympathy for anyone who voted for obama for sure. If you can find a way for the ones that voted for obama to feel what they voted for all well and good problem is too many people who had nothing to do with getting obama re-elected are going to suffer too. Do you want to see that too?
I don’t have the answer but a scorched earth thinking …… you know and I know it could backfire big time. Taking a risk here. With obama at the helm I don’t know …he isn’t like any other politician I have ever seen…we need to be thinking outside of the box. Sure whatever happens I surely want it hung around his neck big time.
Get loud!
father_of_10 wrote:
My son is disabled and obamacare is surely not going to do him any favors already we are feeling the obamacare because of his disablity…we are paying huge amounts for insurance that refuses to pay for his meds and we are paying huge amounts of money for his meds. He will be un-worthy of obama-care. Yeah I have some game in this.
Norquist: Obama Placing ‘Left-Wing Fantasies’ Above American Families
ht drudge
@ Lily:
And if everything does come crushing down …then so does our income…and then we will not have the money to pay for what he needs.
@ Lily:
Lily, we are all going to suffer, with the exception of those who can actually get away.
Rodan wrote:
Here’s what I’d do:
@ Lily:
That is why I want a 30% tax on entertainment profits.
bluliner10 wrote:
I am aware of that. I just don’t want to see it. I really don’t. I understand that things will have to come crushing down to get out of this spiral (yeah I took economics in school they still taught it then) half of me understands it..the other half is a mother ….
Clock is ticking Obama. Ya got 4 years. Not a second more. Then your reign will be over. And history will not be kind
taxfreekiller wrote:
Corzine got a slap on the wrist for stealing other people’s money. MF Global and LIBOR were blatant manipulation of commodities and interest rates that are still going on. The markets and pricing of commodities are fictions driven by massive paper bets.
Rodan wrote:
Good start with them…only them. They helped him get back in office let them know what they did. Not sure if they will blame him or the Republicans at this point. With obama ….he is hard to predict. Very hard. Unusally hard.
It is the individual stories that the Democrats seize on to get their massive entitlements passed.
@ MacDuff:
Rodan wrote:
father_of_10 wrote:
Anecdotocracy; government by anecdote.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Good heavens I hope so that history will not be kind. I saw a sy-fy show that was in the future and they had obama on their money in the show…dear heavens really?????????
@ Lily:
I am a rough, grumpy, crusty Marine. But I do have empathy and sympathy for those who deserve it. Marines started Toys for Tots, we are suckers for kids. But your pragmatic side has to be your guide here too. How do we prepare for this? Not sure.
yenta-fada wrote:
One good shock and the whole system will come unglued.
Rodan wrote:
I’d also add professional sports salaries, ticket prices, product endorsements.
Lily wrote:
My guess is that oil is, despite the MSM news, going to get more expensive. I don’t know if that helps your husband. I certainly hope so, although nobody wants to see higher oil prices. You know what I think about preservation of savings and purchasing power.
@ MacDuff:
Yup, I am with you!
@ waldensianspirit:
Sounds good to me.
bluliner10 wrote:
I have done what I can ….or at least what I can do..I am sure his doctors will continue to treat him. No matter what. But much here lies on me and my husband keeping ourselves in the black…so far we are ….we have done everything we could or can to stay there too.
MacDuff wrote:
Don’t forget COLLEGE sports; they’re nothing but semi-pro farm teams -- tax the coaching staff’s salaries and the apparatus behind big-time college sports. That hits academia where it hurts.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I believe there will be a global currency re-set. Just yesterday they added the Canadian and Aussie dollars to the currency basket known as SDRs (Special drawing rights) Both of those currencies are commodity based and are very small in terms of the population of the two countries. It’s all done openly, but nobody cares or understands the implications of these arcane financial deals.
yenta-fada wrote:
Could help. We have everything that matters paid off and money in a safe place. So we have done everything we can to handle the roller-coaster ride we are about to get on..well the one we have been on and this time the roller coaster ride is on steroids with obama being re-elected.
@ Lily:
We are but a small break from the tempest. I have officially begun the real world job search again today as my request for retirement should be at Headquarters Marine Corps today. While I don’t have too many concerns regarding the pension, I do have great fear that medical coverage will not be what I was promised 30 years ago.
bluliner10 wrote:
This is not a site I normally visit, but this article is very good.
http://usawatchdog.com/msm-ignored-real-issues/
Democrats have been using the tax code as a political club for years. Years ago there was some sort of surtax on yachts and in ’08, Obama spent months talking about taxing private jets. I don’t think taxes are necessarily illegal if they’re industry-specific (tobacco, alcohol, oil, etc. have been singled-out for decades).
Let’s have a barbecue with their sacred cows and demonize their friends!
bluliner10 wrote:
There in lies the problem…the medical coverage. obamacare is going to be a disaster to be honest. And too many people voted for obama because of this evil bill!!!!! They don’t know what’s in it…but they think it is going to be good?!?!?
MacDuff wrote:
All non-essentials liberals love
@ yenta-fada:
Can’t argue with anything in there. To include the President’s new powers which have been ignored. When the PATRIOT Act was signed, it was clutch the pearls…we are looking at people in the US???? Yes, if they were communicating with known or suspected bad guys. We could follow that web. There was no real change to what restraints and constraints already existed for the Intelligence Community. However, the Administration has made everything in bounds. So much for the freedom to feel secure in our person and homesteads…what is next? Do you have to prepare a room for me? Crusty for President 2016.
@ yenta-fada:
Have to agree with the article. The MSM coverage was unreal. Trying to gin up race riots, class warfare and the war on women that never exsisted.
yenta-fada wrote:
If I’m not mistaken it’s another sign that the U.S. dollar’s days as a reserve currency is nearing the end.
@ Lily:
When I was in Okinawa, my girlfriend at the time was Japanese. The universal health care was great for routine checkups, dental visits and preventative care. But one of her fellow tourguides was diagnosed with lukemia, she was given a treatment regimen and when that failed she passed on. There was no impetus to actually try and save the woman from a treatable disease. Here is your program if it fails, sorry. Japan is short 20% of the necessary doctors for a population of its size, and that is getting worse as the population is aging and not being replaced. As much as I loved Okinawa and would return, I would not stay there without a US military presence.
Lily wrote:
Unlike the war on white men, which is very real.
@ MacDuff:
I am with you!
@ bluliner10:
So you were turning Japanese, I really think so!
bluliner10 wrote:
Where ever it is tried …it doesn’t work..this universal health-care does it? Yet people here think it is going to be just great!! They are nuts.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
When nobody shows up to buy your Sovereign Debt, it’s a pretty strong sign that your currency is not trusted. People don’t know about Treasury Bond auctions and how money is created except for geeks like us who must just be untrusting types.
lobo91 wrote:
Yes it is….my husband has been trying to tell me this for a while…he was right.
Rodan wrote:
I had a great 4 years there. My wife was there for almost 17 years and wants to go back also. Okinawans and Thai’s have a really good relationship that goes back centuries.
Heh, just what we were talking about….
It all changes when it’s THEIR ox being gored. We should gore their oxen en masse.
@ Lily:
Only works in the short term. By the time the first bills actually come due, that is the second generation wondering why the care has changed so drastically for the worse.
@ Lily:
I’m fairly certain that I’ll never have a decent job again.
These people are just unreal. Really unreal.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/28/former-stimulus-chief-says-obama-plans-to-tax-and-regulate-junk-food-to-make-people-eat-healthier/
@ bluliner10:
Crusty the clown. Oh yeah. Turns out The Simpsons is a reality show?
Canada is not safe from the rest of the world’s activities. I just had a friend, who is a really good person, send me financial info from a virulent Jew hater. She doesn’t even see that side of him. It’s like Ron Paul. Just because he gets a few things right doesn’t mean you want to give him more power. He’s a bigot. I’m intolerant of intolerance.
lobo91 wrote:
I hope that isn’t true. I really do.
Not bad, need to securitize this one….$$$$@ taxfreekiller:
@ lobo91:
clearancejobs dot com…
lobo91 wrote:
Very very rich white men don’t count. Not a political statement, just an observation.
@ yenta-fada:
Actually crusty is a ‘term of endearment’ for older Marines. Normally, one so covered in ‘sea salt’ from multiple deployments he is now crusted. Mine also came from an eye injury playing hockey in Texas. A couple young Marines were discussing nicknames, so I asked what I was called. They said Crusty from when I would coat my eye in bacitracin and it would dry and crust over my eye…that nickname was as popular as my original nickname…nobody left who calls me that.
yenta-fada wrote:
People by their own accord now days cannot see the true evil lying in their path..they see what they want to see and if you try to tell them different you are the one who can’t see. There is no getting through to these types of people because they don’t want to believe something that goes against what they believe. Belief and Facts…they will chose belief over facts every single time. (I’m talking about politic’s here not religious belief’s.)
bluliner10 wrote:
I’ve never seen anything there worthwhile other than IT-related jobs, which is not me. I’ve pretty much given up on going to job fairs, because all they ever have are construction, truck driving and IT jobs. Half the booths are schools.
@ bluliner10:
That’s quite a story!
@ lobo91:
what are you looking for?
@ bluliner10:
Indeed a good story.
lobo91 wrote:
I don’t know how old you are, but there’s substantial age discrimination out there that’s virtually freezing out the 50+. Anyone who’s in that age group and still working should thank God for their good fortune. Younger people are being seriously hindered and delayed in their career path and the older are oft being jettisoned thus prematurely ending theirs.
@ Lily:
You are correct, I think. You simply cannot talk to someone with a closed mind. They would rather hold to their set of facts, so they dismiss you because it threatens their world view. It’s very sad, as you well know. I am a wimp who does not like to see people suffer. (of course, I can always make an exception or two, lol)
@ yenta-fada:
Thanks…when we were in Iraq, one friend from way back who was my boss got the Crusty nickname started on our Staff…everybody to include the Commanding General was calling me Crusty. My friend and I were at our initial training school together in 84, so I got him back by calling him Highlander as he was (still is 10 years older than me)…good times.
@ bluliner10:
Your wife is Thai? Man, you must get great meals!
MacDuff wrote:
The first comment from that post:
“And how many of these SFBrains celebutards backed the big-government candidate of the century? Sucks when your boneheaded decisions come back to bite you doesn’t it? This is just one small example of how decisions made reap unintended consequences. But liberals will cut off their nose to spite their face if it advances the progressive agenda. They’re fine with the government grabbing everyone else’s earnings as long as they get to keep theirs.”
@ Rodan:
That’s all he knows how to do. Meanwhile, the GOP leadership sits around with their thumbs up their ass saying “woe is us” instead of going out there and putting the facts forward.
@ MacDuff:
Yup. I’ll be 52 next month
bluliner10 wrote:
My background is in operations and training. I’m more likely to find something with DOD than in the private sector. The way things are now, though, if you don’t have 10 point preference, you can pretty much forget federal jobs if you’re not a favored minority.
@ yenta-fada:
This is why we should use the tax code to…ahem…”raise revenue” from those “one per centers”. Singling out industries for extra taxation is something they’ve been doing to the tobacco, alcohol and oil industries (to name just a few) for years. Let’s go after the “windfall profits” fro the entertainment and sports industries!
lobo91 wrote:
That is one thing I am thankful that I am leaving active duty. I can afford to take a contract and not worry about too much else. Are you CSM or SGM?
@ Rodan:
She is a good cook, and her friends are all older Thai ladies in their late 60′s and 70′s. Awesome Thai food! Kao Pad Nu, Pad Thai, and we just looked at her house in Thailand. Pretty nice, her brother and his wife live there and maintain it.
yenta-fada wrote:
Unfortunately people who hold these types of belief’s don’t care if you suffer. I don’t care to see people suffer either. But people who hold these extreme and unreal belief’s don’t have a great deal of sympathy unless it is for themselves. Because they are right and you are wrong. And damn the facts!
@ bluliner10:
SGM
Later all
@ lobo91:
I am Master Gunny…same boat. Bn Ops Chief.
@ heysoos:
I suggest the Congress adopt that jerk Paul Krugman’s idea -- let’s tax incomes over $5 million at a 90% rate; let’s tax incomes over $1 million at 60%. That ought to shut everybody up that’s into income distribution.
Then he can explain where all the jobs went.
@ bluliner10:
Later!
And obama doesn’t care one damn bit.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/28/irans-nuke-chief-vows-to-continue-enriching-uranium-with-intensity/
I must admit I did kill this thread.
French socialist leader threatens to nationalize a large business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/9707263/Francois-Hollande-shows-true-colours-with-threat-to-nationalise-ArcelorMittal.html
@ Lily:
Nah, Lily -- the East Coast is on its way home and the West Coast is busy in the afternoon -- you “Central” zone people are just the Zona Twilita at the moment.
Lily wrote:
It’s dinnertime up here. Hubby is doing dinner. yay.
It’s not you…..the thread is just breaking up with you because of the thread.
@ Carolina Girl:
True….caught in the twilight zone!
I believe the sad truth is that you could take all the wealth in this country, divide it equally among the population and in ten years, we would have a segment living in abject poverty and another segment living in opulent wealth.
You know what? I’ve got children. And my children have children. Fuck this sophmoric “let it all burn down” horseshit.
@ MacDuff:
If you look at many of the lottery winners ….many are broke just a few years later. You gotta learn how to handle money for one. Spending a lot of money with none coming in isn’t a great plan. Plus you got to be able to say NO too. And on the other hand it might just get you killed winning so much money all at once.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/28/florida-woman-on-trial-for-allegedly-murdering-mega-millions-lottery-winner/#ixzz2DYy9cluT
Mike C. wrote:
You don’t see me saying that. I have children and grandchildren too.
96% of Ivy League Faculty and Staff campaign donations went to the Dems:
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4511
bluliner10 wrote:
You got me hungry!
Mike C. wrote:
got a better idea?…share it
Lily wrote:
Yeah, the geniuses in Washington need to learn that simple lesson.
Mike C. wrote:
Who said that? Not me and the Southern Belle.
heysoos wrote:
You share yours first. You don’t pay taxes and refuse to so that is the plan?
heysoos wrote:
Not a helpful comment from you.
yenta-fada wrote:
I said it…but I’m open to any options and MikeC has one
MacDuff wrote:
It’s a very simple idea…you don’t spend more than you take in…what a novel idea huh??? Yet the folks in D.C. can’t figure that one out.
yenta-fada wrote:
We should call Lily “Miss Lily”, she has that air of southern gentility.
MacDuff wrote:
Right. (we won’t talk about the ‘parasol of doooom’, lol)
@ MacDuff:
Thank you MacDuff… LOL!!!!
Republicans have to stand up for real cuts in spending before they even consider supporting an increase in tax rates. And those rates have to start well about the $250,000 income level (200k for an individual) being pushed by Obama.
We’ve been stabbed in the back too many times to go along with the ‘we’ll cut spending next year’ line fed to us by the left.
Lily wrote:
I don’t have a problem raising taxes on the wealthy, never have…I say give BO this fake political scheme and let people live with it…if conservatives don’t hold liberals responsible, who will?…condemn them for their actions
Rodan wrote:
And a house in Thailand where it doesn’t snow. Now I’m jealous.
@ yenta-fada:
Or the duct tape and red finger nail polish.
@ yenta-fada:
Mike C. wrote:
Honestly, we’re not going to have a lot of say in it. I don’t think it’s as much a matter of wanting to burn it down as much as it is being unable to put out the fire that’s already alight.
@ heysoos:
So it’s the scorched option for you. Too many suffer with that. It’s only the flip side of the coin of obama. How about Congress not being afraid of the obama administration and growing a damn back-bone for a change.
yenta-fada wrote:
Gawd, thats funny!
Mike C. wrote:
So who is going to stop the collapse?? The Fools in DC Town ain’t going to do shit about it.
@ yenta-fada:
Doesn’t snow where I live. Ever hardly….
as I see it, the issue is less about taxation, which is way too little, than about cuts in fed spending…BO is smart enough to put the ball in republican hands, so that failure rests with them…turn the tide against them…offer to raise revenue via the very people that voted for BO
MacDuff wrote:
Therein lays a major part of the problem; there ain’t any geniuses in DC Town.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
From another blog:
“What is the difference between ignorance and apathy? — I don’t know and I don’t care”.
Hey, give Obama his damned “soak the rich” tax scheme in exchange for serious and meaningful spending cuts. We need to call his bluff and a substantial number of these alleged “rich” probably voted for him to begin with.
Geez, we’re protecting the incomes of the likes of Katie Perry and Oliver Stone, even while they defend Obama!
Lily wrote:
Snowed here last Wednesday and the snow is still here.
Really could use more global warming here… 
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Well, I was being sarcastically facetious, or facetiously sarcastic, whichever you prefer…but I think you already knew that.
For all of these economic and political troubles, we’re going to need someone who is more than just a modern-day Winston Churchill. I’m not certain who that would be.
@ yenta-fada:
They have beautiful beaches.
yenta-fada wrote:
Sounds like something from an old Abbott and Costello bit.
@ MacDuff:
Couldn’t resist a softball like that…
Already going a bit “Galt” here in S Wisconsin. I have no other choice.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Hey, now that they’ve repealed DA/DT, that’s AC/DC Town, buddy.
heysoos wrote:
Yeah, I do. Stand and fight. Go down in a pile of empty brass if you have to, but never give in. I believe some old, white Brit said something about that 70 some-odd years ago. Come to think of it, some old, white guy said much the same at St. John’s Church in Richmond, Virginia on March 23, 1775.
Ghandi once said the Jews in Warsaw should have just proudly marched off to the ovens to make a point. Ghandi was, in many ways, a blithering idiot. And I would say exactly the same of anybody that thinks giving in to the FSA is somehow going to turn things around.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
I did leave a bit of a hole there….
Later, peeps. Have a pleasant evening!
Canoe Convoy wrote:
IMOHO I think it will have to be the States acting together to force real reforms on the Fools in DC Town. We the People just don’t have the power needed to force the needed reforms at the national level.
@ Canoe Convoy:
What part of WI? I spent a year in college up in Point.
@ Da_Beerfreak: How close are we to getting an Article 5 Constitutional Convention ? I seem to recall that there was discussion of this in some circles in years past.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I was just being lazy. I like to call that place ‘Mordor on the Potomac’ which is a lot closer to the truth than just calling it [AC/]DC Town.
@ mfhorn:
Just west of Madison.
@ Canoe Convoy:
All right!
I enjoyed Point. If the chance came up, I’d probably move back. I remember driving from Point down to Madison for a concert at the Madison Civic Center in April of ’85. Buddy Rich opened for Maynard Ferguson.
See ya’ later! Off to small group @ church.
Canoe Convoy wrote:
Don’t know what the current count is or if there even is a count being taken. But if enough States get pissed of at DC Town there will be one.
From Bloomberg News.
Argentina won an appeals court ruling that delays them haveing to pay the non deal bond holders in full, to Feb. 27, 2013.
Lots of stuff being put off, but time marches on as mean old mr time does not even know we exist.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
At the state level might happen…but then again no telling what revenge obama is going to do them…but I agree to that scorched earth option is apathy. So we let everything go up in flames to make a point?????? Seems like this mentality is the reason we have obama for a second term…too many republicans didn’t vote or turn out and vote because Romney is not enough ___________ fill in the blank! The Republican party is fractured really bad and it isn’t just the politicians either …it goes all the way down to the voter. Because OMG there is a war on women (idiots) or OMG (fools) Romney is going to repeal obamacare or OMG (dunderheads) Romney isn’t conservative enough…compared to what obama???? Really I have been reading ever since the election all kinds of excuses and all this let obama have it then to show those imbeciles who voted for obama and make them suffer. No there is always a another way. Always.
Well at least they don’t want to change things. *shakes head*
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/28/disgraced-ex-congressman-who-served-prison-time-for-sexual-assault-on-a-minor-and-fraud-to-run-for-jesse-jackson-jrs-house-seat/
I just came back from running some errands.
I had to stop at the ATM.
When I drove up, I discovered that somebody had left their ATM in the machine, asking ME if I wanted another transaction.
Having seen a vehicle on the other side of the bank, idling with someone in it, I took the card and receipt to them hoping it was theirs.
It wasn’t. But the lady was stopped because the same thing had happened to her. She had someone ELSE’S card.
She volunteered to take the cards to the local fire hall, where they could alert the police.
It didn’t occur to me what had happened until I went across the street to the gas station for smokes and saw an angry line of people wanting lottery tickets.
These fools were so excited to play the lottery, they left their bank accounts hanging wide open.
@ Bumr50:
Winning the lottery…about as much of a chance as getting hit by lightning.
When the lottery was first started here my brother asked me if I was going to go buy some lottery tickets (he was living with my husband and me at the time). I said “Why? It wouldn’t make a big difference because hubby would put it all in savings maybe he would let us go hog wild on a $100.” Hubby says, “A hundred dollars???? That’s crazy talk..maybe $50.” I then told my brother I rest my case.
New Thread.
@ Bumr50:
Oy veh. Those would be the people you don’t want to encounter during any kind of crisis. Not at the supermarket or the bank.
@ Bumr50:
@ Lily:
It’s a tax on the mathematically challenged…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Yep..if they would put every single dollar they would spend buying lottery tickets in a jar or bank account …they might have something in the long run even if it is only a few thousand dollars. My hubby is of the mind…save, save, and then again save some more.
@ Lily:
The only way to make DC Town stop abusing its power is to take the power away. Only the States working together have enough power to take on DC. It has already started with some of the States refusing to setup insurance exchanges for obamacare. The battle for the future of this Country has begun.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Oh when I was younger I put myself in the “Publishers clearing house” scam….realized it was a scam..then pretend I won it and everything. So I got to experience what I would do with a lot of money ….it worked.
Imagination was all I needed then I went to work to actually bring in the money. I knew me winning anything was never going to happen.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I do believe it has. I don’t want to sit back and just say “let obama have want he wants” Fight back darn it!!!!
Lily wrote:
I think that the only way we have a chance of getting things changed (and/or fixed) is to work though the States. The big question is do we have enough time left to do it??
@ Lily:
I was afraid he’d show his fugly face up in Обамаград…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Good question…how much time do we have???