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Essential VDH: T-ball rules of warfare

by Speranza ( 136 Comments › )
Filed under Gaza, IDF, Israel, Palestinians at November 29th, 2012 - 7:00 pm

The argument (according to Juan Williams and Mark Shields) is that Israel was the  aggressor  because far, far more Palestinians died then Jews. Memo to historically illiterate dunderheads – far, far more Japanese and Germans died then Americans in World War II, were we the aggressors then?

by Victor Davis Hanson

Classical explanations of conventional wars run something like this: An aggressor state seeks political advantage through military force. It has a hunch that the threatened target will likely either make concessions to avoid losing a war, or, if war breaks out, the resulting political gains will be worth the military costs to achieve victory.

Wars then are prevented only by a balance of power and military deterrence: Aggressors have to be warned that it would be stupid to start a war they will likely lose. If there are miscalculations or if emotions run high and logic is ignored, then the resulting conflicts only end when one side loses and has no choice but to accept the imposed terms of the winner.

That being said, the modern therapeutic West has either forgotten such rules or ignored them. In today’s globally televised wars, a novel doctrine of proportionality reigns. It is sort of like T-ball, in which scoring and winning don’t matter. Instead both the stronger and weaker sides end up the same. Little attention is paid to who started the conflict, how it was conducted, or how it should be ended.

In terms of the Middle East, contemporary T-ball war works out like this: A far weaker Gaza sends a shower of missiles into Israel, hiding its launchers among civilians to ensure collateral damage and favorable propaganda during Israeli retaliation.

Israel, with its technological savvy, knocks down most of the incoming rockets, but then responds by killing far more Palestinians in Gaza than it lost inside Israel. That is considered unsportsmanlike play. In a fair T-ball fight, Israel should have stopped the war when the losses were equal and not tried to run up the score.

Apparently Israel was supposed to shut down its Iron Dome anti-missile system so that the Hamas missiles could kill enough Israelis to match those killed in Gaza. Then it should have accepted a cease-fire to the no-win/no-lose game, until Hamas chose to play the next “proportional” inning of this perpetual ball game.

However, just as one side in T-ball can be more skilled than the other, and parents secretly keep score in supposedly scoreless games, so too do the age-old rules of war not change just because we think they must.

Hamas went to war against Israel by shooting hundreds of rockets into the Jewish state. It thought such aggression made sense. The attack was timed just after the U.S. election. Hamas guessed that the Obama administration would be largely neutral without reelection worries over pro-Israel voters in swing states.

Hamas also hoped that it would have more success against Israel than during its last war in 2008. After all, it had plenty of new, longer-range Iranian rockets that could reach most cities in Israel.

[.........]

More important, Hamas figured it had two new friends nearby in Recep Erdogan’s Islamist government in Turkey and the newly ascendant Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt under Mohamed Morsi.

By going to war, Hamas reminded the world that American allies such as Turkey and Egypt are now firmly in the new Iranian-backed Islamist and anti-Israel orbit. Like Hamas, both regimes came to power through elections, and then almost immediately tried to silence the opposition to ensure their permanent authoritarian rule. In Morsi’s case, the new Gaza war gave him cover for almost immediately trying to suspend the constitution.

[........]

For now, all that may have worked.

But just as the fantasies of T-ball give way when kids grow up and start keeping score in the real world of baseball, so too will the T-ball war in the Middle East come to an end. To avoid unending rocket barrages and serial on-and-off wars, Israel will have to convince Hamas and its allies that, collectively, they all have a lot to lose by starting more T-ball wars — ones that in the future no longer will end with a no-score truce.

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  1. song_and_dance_man
    1 | November 29, 2012 7:50 pm

    Uh…according to Patton winning a war means one side kills more of them than those who are killed on the other side. Or something like that.

    If winning isn’t everything, why do they keep score. -- Lombardi


  2. song_and_dance_man
    2 | November 29, 2012 7:51 pm

    Oh yeah.

    Second


  3. Da_Beerfreak
    3 | November 29, 2012 7:55 pm

    “war is cruelty and you cannot refine it”
    General William Tecumseh Sherman

    Folks don’t understand what war is anymore. So it comes as no great surprise that most have the wrong impression of what just happened in Gaza. :evil:


  4. song_and_dance_man
    4 | November 29, 2012 8:10 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Folks don’t understand what war is anymore.

    The latest battle in an ongoing war is summed up by the OSM and the general Left with, hey you killed more of us that we killed of you. That’s NOT fair.

    Welcome to the machine.

    You gotta get past the ads.


  5. Xeon
    5 | November 29, 2012 8:23 pm

    One more attack, and the “terror ticker” on the right ——-->
    will hit 20,000.


  6. lobo91
    6 | November 29, 2012 8:37 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Folks don’t understand what war is anymore. So it comes as no great surprise that most have the wrong impression of what just happened in Gaza.

    Most of the wars we’ve been involved in during at least my lifetime the average American didn’t even understand the point of.


  7. darkwords
    7 | November 29, 2012 8:42 pm

    Stardate 3192 A Taste of Armageddon

    Citizens reported as “killed” must submit themselves for termination by stepping inside a disintegration booth.


  8. Da_Beerfreak
    8 | November 29, 2012 8:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Folks don’t understand what war is anymore. So it comes as no great surprise that most have the wrong impression of what just happened in Gaza.

    Most of the wars we’ve been involved in during at least my lifetime the average American didn’t even understand the point of.

    Most of the political class in DC Town are clueless too. They seam to think it’s some sort of sporting event that can be played by a set of rules.


  9. darkwords
    9 | November 29, 2012 8:45 pm

    Orson Scott Card ‏@orsonscottcard
    If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would it be? #pathfinder #RUINS


  10. Speranza
    10 | November 29, 2012 8:47 pm

    Xeon wrote:

    One more attack, and the “terror ticker” on the right ——-->
    will hit 20,000.

    Give it a few minutes.


  11. Da_Beerfreak
    11 | November 29, 2012 8:47 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Orson Scott Card ‏@orsonscottcard
    If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would it be? #pathfinder #RUINS

    Interesting thought… So many to choose from… :twisted:


  12. Speranza
    12 | November 29, 2012 8:47 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    I cannot stand Pink Floyd particularly Roger Waters.


  13. lobo91
    13 | November 29, 2012 8:55 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    Orson Scott Card ‏@orsonscottcard
    If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would it be? #pathfinder #RUINS

    Interesting thought… So many to choose from…

    I think I’d have to go with getting rid of Mohammed before he started his crazy cult.


  14. Da_Beerfreak
    14 | November 29, 2012 8:56 pm

    This is not going to end well.
    Chinese police plan to board vessels in disputed seas

    BEIJING/MANILA (Reuters) -- Police in the southern Chinese island province of Hainan will board and search ships which illegally enter what China considers its territory in the disputed South China Sea, state media said on Thursday, a move likely to add to tensions.
    The South China Sea is Asia’s biggest potential military trouble spot with several Asian countries claiming sovereignty over waters believed to be rich in oil and gas.


  15. lobo91
    15 | November 29, 2012 8:58 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It would be amusing to see them try to board one of our carriers.

    Not that Obama would send one there, of course.


  16. darkwords
    16 | November 29, 2012 8:58 pm

    @ 13 lobo91: That is probably the best one.


  17. brookly red
    17 | November 29, 2012 8:59 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Folks don’t understand what war is anymore. So it comes as no great surprise that most have the wrong impression of what just happened in Gaza.

    Most of the wars we’ve been involved in during at least my lifetime the average American didn’t even understand the point of.

    Most of the political class in DC Town are clueless too. They seam to think it’s some sort of sporting event that can be played by a set of rules.

    well there is one rule… a dead enemy can’t attack you.


  18. 18 | November 29, 2012 8:59 pm

    @ Speranza:

    O’Reilly talking about Gangnam style again. It’s the 3rd day in a row.


  19. Speranza
    19 | November 29, 2012 8:59 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak
    I am not sure how good the Filipino military is.


  20. Speranza
    20 | November 29, 2012 8:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    O’Reilly talking about Gangnam style again. It’s the 3rd day in a row.

    He is such an unbelievable bore.


  21. darkwords
    21 | November 29, 2012 9:00 pm

    @ 18 Rodan: I don’t even know what it is other than it is some Asian guy dancing on TV all the time. I was thinking it was like that Asian guy on American Idol who was made fun of. Sort of a soft sort of racism.


  22. 22 | November 29, 2012 9:01 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    They are doing something we used to do. They actually have declared a sphere influence. There was a time we used to look after our interest. Now we look after global interest.


  23. brookly red
    23 | November 29, 2012 9:01 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It would be amusing to see them try to board one of our carriers.

    Not that Obama would send one there, of course.

    it would be funnier to see them board a submarine


  24. Speranza
    24 | November 29, 2012 9:01 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 18 Rodan: I don’t even know what it is other than it is some Asian guy dancing on TV all the time. I was thinking it was like that Asian guy on American Idol who was made fun of. Sort of a soft sort of racism.

    Has O’Reilly (I know he had Lincoln Chafee on tonight) done any more “War on Christmas” bullshit?


  25. 25 | November 29, 2012 9:02 pm

    @ darkwords:

    It’s a Korean Electro-Rap song. Just a club record. It’s the 2010′s version of Rock Me Amadeus.


  26. 26 | November 29, 2012 9:02 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I put on the Saints-Falcons game.


  27. buzzsawmonkey
    27 | November 29, 2012 9:02 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I cannot stand Pink Floyd particularly Roger Waters.

    Aren’t they, in effect, Code Pink Floyd at this point?


  28. lobo91
    28 | November 29, 2012 9:02 pm

    @ brookly red:

    it would be funnier to see them board a submarine

    Surfacing sort of defeats the purpose, though.


  29. darkwords
    29 | November 29, 2012 9:03 pm

    @ 25 Rodan: yah someone could probably make a fortune finding the ancestral musical parents of modern rap songs.


  30. Da_Beerfreak
    30 | November 29, 2012 9:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak
    I am not sure how good the Filipino military is.

    Don’t have to be “good” to accidently start a shooting war, just unlucky…


  31. Speranza
    31 | November 29, 2012 9:03 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    I cannot stand Pink Floyd particularly Roger Waters.

    Aren’t they, in effect, Code Pink Floyd at this point?

    Correctamundo.


  32. lobo91
    32 | November 29, 2012 9:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ darkwords:

    It’s a Korean Electro-Rap song. Just a club record. It’s the 2010′s version of Rock Me Amadeus.

    Ugh. Another song I’d prefer to forget


  33. darkwords
    33 | November 29, 2012 9:04 pm

    @ 24 Speranza: I think Oreilly is about money now and his personal agenda. I don’t see him seriously going to bat for little people.


  34. brookly red
    34 | November 29, 2012 9:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    it would be funnier to see them board a submarine

    Surfacing sort of defeats the purpose, though.

    surfacing?


  35. buzzsawmonkey
    35 | November 29, 2012 9:04 pm

    Since we’re talking war, a reminder from this afternoon:

    The entire cost of both the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan, from 2001 until now, is only about 1.3 trillion—in other words, equivalent to just one year’s deficit in any of the years Obama has been President.


  36. lobo91
    36 | November 29, 2012 9:05 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 25 Rodan: yah someone could probably make a fortune finding the ancestral musical parents of modern rap songs.

    It would be hard enough finding the parents of most rap performers…
    //


  37. lobo91
    37 | November 29, 2012 9:06 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I doubt that they can hold their breath long enough to do it otherwise.


  38. brookly red
    38 | November 29, 2012 9:07 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Since we’re talking war, a reminder from this afternoon:

    The entire cost of both the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan, from 2001 until now, is only about 1.3 trillion—in other words, equivalent to just one year’s deficit in any of the years Obama has been President.

    well blowing people up is cheaper then feeding, housing and giving them free phones I guess.


  39. Speranza
    39 | November 29, 2012 9:07 pm

    What channel is the Saints-Falcons on?


  40. 40 | November 29, 2012 9:07 pm

    @ darkwords:

    I actually did do research on that.


  41. Speranza
    41 | November 29, 2012 9:07 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 24 Speranza: I think Oreilly is about money now and his personal agenda. I don’t see him seriously going to bat for little people.

    The only person he is looking out for is himself. I figured that out awhile ago.


  42. 42 | November 29, 2012 9:08 pm

    @ Speranza:

    NFL Network.


  43. lobo91
    43 | November 29, 2012 9:08 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Since we’re talking war, a reminder from this afternoon:

    The entire cost of both the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan, from 2001 until now, is only about 1.3 trillion—in other words, equivalent to just one year’s deficit in any of the years Obama has been President.

    Yeah, but look at all the oil we got out of it.
    //


  44. darkwords
    44 | November 29, 2012 9:09 pm

    A free MMORPG game with billing support.


  45. huckfunn
    45 | November 29, 2012 9:10 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Ugh. Another song I’d prefer to forget

    New John Hiatt. Well worth a listen. Oh, and Leia is looking good.


  46. song_and_dance_man
    46 | November 29, 2012 9:13 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I purposely look past the policies of rock e rollers and enjoy the music. Melody over melodrama.


  47. 47 | November 29, 2012 9:13 pm

    @ lobo91:

    To each their own!


  48. song_and_dance_man
    48 | November 29, 2012 9:15 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    What channel is the Saints-Falcons on?

    On the channel no one gets.


  49. 49 | November 29, 2012 9:15 pm

    @ lobo91:

    No blood for oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ////

    Oh wait!!!!!!!!!!!!


  50. buzzsawmonkey
    50 | November 29, 2012 9:16 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ Rodan:

    No oil for blood!


  51. Speranza
    51 | November 29, 2012 9:17 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I purposely look past the policies of rock e rollers and enjoy the music. Melody over melodrama.

    I agree but I still cannot stand Roger Waters.


  52. huckfunn
    52 | November 29, 2012 9:18 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    What channel is the Saints-Falcons on?

    On the channel no one gets.

    Heh. Time Warner just added it to my lineup for… FREE! Falcons up 14-0, top of the 2nd.


  53. lobo91
    53 | November 29, 2012 9:18 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    No blood for oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ////

    Oh wait!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Haliburton!!!!


  54. buzzsawmonkey
    54 | November 29, 2012 9:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Haliburton!!!!

    Isn’t that that black actress?


  55. song_and_dance_man
    55 | November 29, 2012 9:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    It would be hard enough finding the parents of most rap performers…

    Morgue records?


  56. Speranza
    56 | November 29, 2012 9:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    No blood for oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ////
    Oh wait!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Haliburton!!!!

    Bain Capital!


  57. huckfunn
    57 | November 29, 2012 9:20 pm

    And here’s some old John Hiatt


  58. 58 | November 29, 2012 9:20 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Blackwater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ///


  59. 59 | November 29, 2012 9:21 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Big Bird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  60. lobo91
    60 | November 29, 2012 9:21 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    New John Hiatt. Well worth a listen. Oh, and Leia is looking good.

    I don’t have any kids to embarrass, so I have to make do…


  61. huckfunn
    61 | November 29, 2012 9:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I don’t have any kids to embarrass, so I have to make do…

    She’ll get even when you’re not looking.


  62. song_and_dance_man
    62 | November 29, 2012 9:23 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Quibbling are we? The Lost have spoken. /


  63. Mars
    63 | November 29, 2012 9:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    O’Reilly talking about Gangnam style again. It’s the 3rd day in a row.

    O’Reilly is a twit. And a large part of the reason we’re seen as out of touch with the culture.


  64. song_and_dance_man
    64 | November 29, 2012 9:26 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Heh. Time Warner just added it to my lineup for… FREE! Falcons up 14-0, top of the 2nd.

    /channeling Napoleon Dynamite— LUCKY


  65. 65 | November 29, 2012 9:28 pm

    @ Mars:

    The irony is that O’Reilly is not even really a Conservative! He gets obsessed with nonsense.


  66. Speranza
    66 | November 29, 2012 9:31 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Big Bird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    War on Women!


  67. Speranza
    67 | November 29, 2012 9:31 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    The irony is that O’Reilly is not even really a Conservative! He gets obsessed with nonsense.

    He is a self-promoting bloviator.


  68. 68 | November 29, 2012 9:32 pm

    @ Speranza:

    He’s an egomaniac!


  69. 69 | November 29, 2012 9:33 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Using simple slogans work for the Left. We should mimic that.


  70. Mars
    70 | November 29, 2012 9:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    The irony is that O’Reilly is not even really a Conservative! He gets obsessed with nonsense.

    Yep


  71. Mars
    71 | November 29, 2012 9:34 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Mars:
    The irony is that O’Reilly is not even really a Conservative! He gets obsessed with nonsense.

    He is a self-promoting bloviator.

    Yep yep.


  72. Mars
    72 | November 29, 2012 9:35 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    He’s an egomaniac!

    Yep yep yep


  73. song_and_dance_man
    73 | November 29, 2012 9:42 pm

    War on poverty


  74. song_and_dance_man
    74 | November 29, 2012 9:44 pm

    war on supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.


  75. huckfunn
    75 | November 29, 2012 9:47 pm

    War on food. War on bidness. War on consumers.
    Domino’s: Obamacare requires 34 million pizza nutrition signs in stores

    New Obamacare regulations targeting the fast food and grocery store market that require signs detailing calorie and nutritional information on every product will force pizza makers like Domino’s to post up to 34 million different signs in every store: One for every possible pizza order.
    [...]
    Fouracre-Petko said that just posting generic nutrition signs in Domino’s will cost $4,700 per location, senseless, she said, because virtually all Domino’s customers order by phone and get their food delivered, so most will never seen them. She said that 10 percent of pizza customers enter a Domino’s store. “Coughing up almost $5,000 for something like this will hurt,” she said.


  76. 76 | November 29, 2012 9:55 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    That is what Bloomberg did.


  77. Calo
    77 | November 29, 2012 10:04 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Why does it have to be printed signs?

    Couldn’t a Domino’s location have an interactive screen that the customer types in the pizza they are ordering and it will show the customer the nutritional information of said pizza?

    Going digital and interactive is much cheaper.


  78. brookly red
    78 | November 29, 2012 10:04 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    “Coughing up almost $5,000 for something like this will hurt,” she said.

    And not coughing up a wad of cheese will cause asphyxiation…death by pizza. Thus is my curse and so it will be. Bureaucratic ass wipes be damned.


  79. buzzsawmonkey
    79 | November 29, 2012 10:08 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Domino’s: Obamacare requires 34 million pizza nutrition signs in stores

    The Domino theory—destroying the economy in order to save it—is well on its way.


  80. brookly red
    80 | November 29, 2012 10:08 pm

    Calo wrote:

    Couldn’t a Domino’s location have an interactive screen that the customer types in the pizza they are ordering and it will show the customer the nutritional information of said pizza?

    Going digital and interactive is much cheaper.

    yes but you pusha da button for mushroom and it say you vote for Obama! you push peppers, it say Obama! interactive it is a corruption of of Gods plan that you eatta da food.


  81. huckfunn
    81 | November 29, 2012 10:12 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Why does it have to be printed signs?

    Couldn’t a Domino’s location have an interactive screen that the customer types in the pizza they are ordering and it will show the customer the nutritional information of said pizza?

    Going digital and interactive is much cheaper.

    The Obamunists couldn’t care less about “doing it cheaper”. It’s all about the excercise of raw power and beating the masses into submission.


  82. huckfunn
    82 | November 29, 2012 10:13 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    “Coughing up almost $5,000 for something like this will hurt,” she said.

    And not coughing up a wad of cheese will cause asphyxiation…death by pizza. Thus is my curse and so it will be. Bureaucratic ass wipes be damned.

    I knew that this story would get yer attention. :twisted:


  83. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | November 29, 2012 10:16 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Nobody will be able to afford pizza anyway if they don’t get that famous original raise.


  84. 84 | November 29, 2012 10:16 pm

    Obama’s fiscal cliff proposals

    Apparently, we’re supposed to believe this crap will prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff…


  85. brookly red
    85 | November 29, 2012 10:17 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Why does it have to be printed signs?

    Couldn’t a Domino’s location have an interactive screen that the customer types in the pizza they are ordering and it will show the customer the nutritional information of said pizza?

    Going digital and interactive is much cheaper.

    The Obamunists couldn’t care less about “doing it cheaper”. It’s all about the excercise of raw power and beating the masses into submission.

    the irony is they think that Americans will read factual information and make choices in their best interests… If that were the case they would be in prison not in command.


  86. huckfunn
    86 | November 29, 2012 10:17 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    The Domino theory—destroying the economy in order to save it—is well on its way.

    Papa John will have to capitulate to the Domino theory. That’ll piss him off. :roll:


  87. The Osprey
    87 | November 29, 2012 10:18 pm

    They can have my pepperoni slice when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.


  88. brookly red
    88 | November 29, 2012 10:20 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    “Coughing up almost $5,000 for something like this will hurt,” she said.

    And not coughing up a wad of cheese will cause asphyxiation…death by pizza. Thus is my curse and so it will be. Bureaucratic ass wipes be damned.

    I knew that this story would get yer attention.

    Remember it was you that invoked the power of my curse…


  89. rain of lead
    89 | November 29, 2012 10:21 pm

    merry christmas yaaarrr!!!


  90. brookly red
    90 | November 29, 2012 10:22 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    Obama’s fiscal cliff proposals

    Apparently, we’re supposed to believe this crap will prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff…

    LOL we each owe over $200,000 we are way over the cliff, I say burn baby burn. Bring it all down.


  91. lobo91
    91 | November 29, 2012 10:22 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    When congressional leaders went to the White House three days after the election, Obama talked of possible curbs on the explosive growth of food stamps and Social Security disability payments. But since Geithner didn’t mention them, those reductions appear to be off the table now, McConnell says.

    Well, yeah…you wouldn’t want to address the source of the problem, would you? That would be crazy…
    //


  92. momcat
    92 | November 29, 2012 10:23 pm

    @ rain of lead:cool


  93. huckfunn
    93 | November 29, 2012 10:23 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    the irony is they think that Americans will read factual information and make choices in their best interests…

    Scary.


  94. rain of lead
    94 | November 29, 2012 10:24 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Laughable, literally:

    Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter” Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff. He wasn’t trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts…

    Geithner suggested $1.6 trillion in tax increases, McConnell says, but showed “minimal or no interest” in spending cuts. When congressional leaders went to the White House three days after the election, Obama talked of possible curbs on the explosive growth of food stamps and Social Security disability payments. But since Geithner didn’t mention them, those reductions appear to be off the table now, McConnell says.


  95. rain of lead
    95 | November 29, 2012 10:25 pm

    @ momcat:

    yep
    got our christmas duds on


  96. lobo91
    96 | November 29, 2012 10:26 pm

    Good thing we weren’t planning on using tax revenues to pay for entitlements:

    U.S. Birth Rate Plummets To Lowest Level Since 1920…

    The U.S. birth rate plunged last year to a record low, with the decline being led by immigrant women hit hard by the recession, according to a study released Thursday by the Pew Research Center.

    The overall birth rate declined by 8 percent between 2007 and 2010, with a decrease of 6 percent among U.S.-born women and 14 percent among foreign-born women. The decline for Mexican immigrant women was more extreme, at 23 percent. The overall birth rate is now at its lowest since 1920, the earliest year with reliable records.

    The decline could have far-reaching implications for U.S. economic and social policy. A continuing decline would challenge long-held assumptions that births to immigrants will help maintain the U.S. population and provide the taxpaying work force needed to support the aging baby boomer generation.


  97. Mars
    97 | November 29, 2012 10:28 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Laughable, literally:
    Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter” Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff. He wasn’t trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts…
    Geithner suggested $1.6 trillion in tax increases, McConnell says, but showed “minimal or no interest” in spending cuts. When congressional leaders went to the White House three days after the election, Obama talked of possible curbs on the explosive growth of food stamps and Social Security disability payments. But since Geithner didn’t mention them, those reductions appear to be off the table now, McConnell says.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/29/mitch-mcconnel-signals-to-other-republicans-shut-up-about-new-taxes/

    McConnel is actually being pretty strong on this stuff right now. Much better than Boehner is on the other end.


  98. brookly red
    98 | November 29, 2012 10:28 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Laughable, literally:

    Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter” Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff. He wasn’t trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts…

    Geithner suggested $1.6 trillion in tax increases, McConnell says, but showed “minimal or no interest” in spending cuts. When congressional leaders went to the White House three days after the election, Obama talked of possible curbs on the explosive growth of food stamps and Social Security disability payments. But since Geithner didn’t mention them, those reductions appear to be off the table now, McConnell says.

    burn baby burn, bring it all down.


  99. Calo
    99 | November 29, 2012 10:28 pm

    @ momcat:
    mom and rain, you are both looking very festive tonight.
    But, I’m done with Christmas this year, bah humbug.


  100. rain of lead
    100 | November 29, 2012 10:28 pm

    @ lobo91:

    gee lobo
    that makes no sense
    when you don’t have any money to go to the movies
    the only thing left for people to do is stay home and
    F**K


  101. lobo91
    101 | November 29, 2012 10:30 pm

    @ Mars:

    McConnel is actually being pretty strong on this stuff right now. Much better than Boehner is on the other end.

    Well, McConnell is in the Senate, where Reid flat refuses to bring up anything Republicans propose for a vote. Makes his job much easier.


  102. Calo
    102 | November 29, 2012 10:31 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    :shock: :lol: :shock:


  103. brookly red
    103 | November 29, 2012 10:33 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    gee lobo
    that makes no sense
    when you don’t have any money to go to the movies
    the only thing left for people to do is stay home and
    F**K

    they are figuring out a way to tax that too.


  104. rain of lead
    104 | November 29, 2012 10:33 pm

    @ Calo:

    my brothers funeral was today
    I can be sad or be happy and enjoy the season
    I know what my brother would have wanted


  105. Mars
    105 | November 29, 2012 10:34 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Mars:
    McConnel is actually being pretty strong on this stuff right now. Much better than Boehner is on the other end.
    Well, McConnell is in the Senate, where Reid flat refuses to bring up anything Republicans propose for a vote. Makes his job much easier.

    That is true.


  106. Calo
    106 | November 29, 2012 10:35 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    More cushin’, less pushin’?


  107. huckfunn
    107 | November 29, 2012 10:37 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Well, McConnell is in the Senate, where Reid flat refuses to bring up anything Republicans propose for a vote.

    Harry says “We’ve Already Done More Than A Billion Worth of Cuts, We Need To Get Some Credit For That”… So there!


  108. rain of lead
    108 | November 29, 2012 10:37 pm

    @ Calo:

    if anyone tells michelle she needs to haul ass…
    it’s gonna take 2 or 3 trips


  109. Calo
    109 | November 29, 2012 10:38 pm

    @ rain of lead

    I needed a reason to uncork this bottle of wine sitting on my kitchen counter. Now, I found one.

    We will celebrate his life tonight with you instead.


  110. brookly red
    110 | November 29, 2012 10:39 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    More cushin’, less pushin’?

    the phase is better pushin’ mam…


  111. rain of lead
    111 | November 29, 2012 10:40 pm

    @ Calo:

    that is an awesome plan ma’am

    hoist a glass to a good man


  112. huckfunn
    112 | November 29, 2012 10:41 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    More cushin’, less pushin’?

    Somethin like that. What a load.


  113. Calo
    113 | November 29, 2012 10:41 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Yep, but hers might be too much of a good thing.


  114. brookly red
    114 | November 29, 2012 10:44 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Calo:

    my brothers funeral was today
    I can be sad or be happy and enjoy the season
    I know what my brother would have wanted

    you can be both.


  115. brookly red
    115 | November 29, 2012 10:47 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Yep, but hers might be too much of a good thing.

    I would rather be dipped in shit and feed to the flies…


  116. Calo
    116 | November 29, 2012 10:50 pm

    @ brookly red:
    She will be a poster child for diabetes Type II soon enough.

    No cake for the Queen.


  117. lobo91
    117 | November 29, 2012 10:52 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Harry says “We’ve Already Done More Than A Billion Worth of Cuts, We Need To Get Some Credit For That”… So there!

    Impressive. That’s almost 1/4 of an entire day’s worth of expenditures.


  118. 118 | November 29, 2012 10:54 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Repeat that 149 times & I’ll give you a little credit there, Dingy. As long as you don’t start increasing again next year- in fact, next year, there need to be even MORE cuts, beyond that 150 billion.


  119. rain of lead
    119 | November 29, 2012 10:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Calo:

    my brothers funeral was today
    I can be sad or be happy and enjoy the season
    I know what my brother would have wanted

    you can be both.

    nope
    been doing sad for several MONTHS now
    done with it
    his suffering is over and he has gone to a better place
    gonna revel in the joy of the season


  120. brookly red
    120 | November 29, 2012 10:57 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    the irony is they think that Americans will read factual information and make choices in their best interests…

    Scary.

    that photo albeit retouched is telling, yes his ears are not really that big (ironic he can not hear) and her butt is not really that big (yet, they do have a 20 million dollar vacation lined up) but look at how thin he is and she has bigger arms then Mike Tyson… how spirituality telling, he is starving from the soul up and she… well is just wallowing in mammon.


  121. brookly red
    121 | November 29, 2012 10:59 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Calo:

    my brothers funeral was today
    I can be sad or be happy and enjoy the season
    I know what my brother would have wanted

    you can be both.

    nope
    been doing sad for several MONTHS now
    done with it
    his suffering is over and he has gone to a better place
    gonna revel in the joy of the season

    Jesus is the reason for the season!


  122. AZfederalist
    122 | November 29, 2012 10:59 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    they are figuring out a way to tax that too.

    Actually they’ve figured out a way to tax you to pay for their birth control. So basically, they’ve figured out a way to tax you to pay for them doing it. Ain’t that a hoot?


  123. AZfederalist
    123 | November 29, 2012 11:00 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    hoist a glass to a good man

    “Clink”


  124. AZfederalist
    124 | November 29, 2012 11:01 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Yep, but hers might be too much of a good thing.

    umm, “good” and “her” (referring to Moochelle) do not belong in the same sentence.

    /Just sayin’


  125. AZfederalist
    125 | November 29, 2012 11:03 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Harry says “We’ve Already Done More Than A Billion Worth of Cuts, We Need To Get Some Credit For That”… So there!

    Yeah, and how much of that was in defense cuts or other Constitutionally described duties of the federal government? I’ll lay money none of it was entitlements


  126. brookly red
    126 | November 29, 2012 11:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Harry says “We’ve Already Done More Than A Billion Worth of Cuts, We Need To Get Some Credit For That”… So there!

    Impressive. That’s almost 1/4 of an entire day’s worth of expenditures.

    a billion dollars… it sounds like a lot but it is less than what the feds spent on xerox toner today.


  127. AZfederalist
    127 | November 29, 2012 11:05 pm

    Tap … Tap… Is this thing on?


  128. brookly red
    128 | November 29, 2012 11:07 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Actually they’ve figured out a way to tax you to pay for their birth control. So basically, they’ve figured out a way to tax you to pay for them doing it. Ain’t that a hoot?

    actually I don’t mind that tax… a dollar spent preventing another liberal is a dollar earned.


  129. brookly red
    129 | November 29, 2012 11:12 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Harry says “We’ve Already Done More Than A Billion Worth of Cuts, We Need To Get Some Credit For That”… So there!

    Yeah, and how much of that was in defense cuts or other Constitutionally described duties of the federal government? I’ll lay money none of it was entitlements

    just bring the whole thing down. burn baby burn. it’s over. the sooner the better.


  130. lobo91
    130 | November 29, 2012 11:26 pm

    @ brookly red:

    a billion dollars… it sounds like a lot but it is less than what the feds spent on xerox toner today.

    We’re currently borrowing almost $4 billion a day.

    So that covers 6 hours.


  131. rain of lead
    131 | November 29, 2012 11:39 pm

    later ya’ll
    been a very tiring day


  132. AZfederalist
    132 | November 29, 2012 11:50 pm

    Goodnight ROL. Continued prayers for you and your family.


  133. darkwords
    133 | November 30, 2012 12:00 am

    @ 104 rain of lead: Played it.


  134. coldwarrior
    134 | November 30, 2012 12:05 am

    oot is up


  135. bluliner10
    135 | November 30, 2012 7:56 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak
    I am not sure how good the Filipino military is.

    I would gladly suit up with the Armed Forces of the Philippines. They lack funding, but they do not lack guts. I miss working with the PhilMars (Philippine Marines).


  136. JonBrooks
    136 | November 30, 2012 8:55 am

    Now that the Pals have their state, recognized by the UN, doesn’t Israel now have the right to declare actual “true kill em all war” on them if they are attacked again? As Edward the Longshanks character said in Braveheart…

    “One must see the good in every situation.”


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