Karl Rove is one of the biggest losers of 2012 as his Super PAC spent $300 million dollars and only got one Senator elected. He intervened in the primaries and organized the attacks on Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich that made Romney take positions that hurt him in the general election. Then to top it all off he had a meltdown when Fox News called Ohio for Obama. It seems Roger Ailes has had enough of the overrated hack and has taken this clown off the air for now.
The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters. According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now.
For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris. Both pundits made several appearances in the days after the election, but their visibility on the network has dropped markedly. Inside Fox News, Morris’s Romney boosterism and reality-denying predictions became a punch line.
I wish Fox News would take Karl Rove off the air permanently. This man is a vile snake and a political has been. He’s a clown whose only job should be showing up at birthday parties in a clown suit. Karl Rove is the architect of defeat and should be shunned by the Right.
I think Republicans should listen to ex Democratic strategist Pat Caddell. This man warned Republicans that Obama’s tactics were working. He called the election correctly. He understands how Democrats think and has more credibility than that pudgy snake, Rove.
He is a slimy political “fixer” and a bit of a buffoon. Just because the Left hates him does not make him someone we need to defend. What he cares about is power, and not winning elections. Fox needs to revamp its lineup of “contributors” and get rid of Rove, Dick Morris, Rick Santorum, and even Palin (they pay her $1 million a year for what exactly?).
“The Architect” of what? Defeat and Bush cronyism.
@ Speranza:
I hate this clown. He symbolizes everything wrong with the Gop.
Speranza wrote:
He’s the architect of losing and turning off segments of the electorate.
@ Speranza:
I rather listen to Pat Caddell and Doug Shoen. They know what they are talking about.
I understand Ailes decision. Rove was very prominent. But to be fair, he was far from the only one who got it wrong. The emminent Michael Barone got it just as wrong. As did many others. The person besides Cadell that got it right was Larry Sabato.
Also, in Rove’s favor, his knowledge of precinct level stuff is probably second only to Barone’s.
But why the vitriol? I remember back in the Swamp days we used to say “Rove, you magnificant bastard!”
The only time I saw any real affection for Rove was during the Valerie Plame affair and that was only because that fool William Rivers Pitt at Democratic Underground made the absurd statement that Rove was going to be arrested in 24 hours, causing some equally foolish poster at DU (really is there any other kind?) to gleefully post the word “Freudenschade!” (which I have stolen for my own personal use ever since). Of course, when Rove didn’t get arrested, Pitt and crew amended that to “24 BUSINESS hours” which made clear pretty much that he was full of crap.
I don’t know if Rove saw all that as a groundswell of support. Maybe it was, but all his subsequent actions and mouthings have made him, justifiably, an object of scorn.
Rove is an entertainer…he does the AmIdol soft shoe…his purpose is to take up space
Oh, forgot one thing. This story first showed up -- as far as I can tell -- in the Ddaily Mail (UK) about 4 days ago.
@ eaglesoars:
I do recall that. Especially at Free Republic. And you don’t get more conservative and subject to the purity test than you get over there.
@ eaglesoars:
It was on Twitter too. But just vague reference that Rove had been benched by Fox.
@ eaglesoars:
I never liked Rove. He cynically used issues that gave the GOP a short term win, but ended up costing us long term.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I was always anti-Rove!
heysoos wrote:
He takes up plenty of space!
Rodan wrote:
I’m anti-everybody…he’s employed by the MSM right?….pretty simple for me
@ Carolina Girl:
Rove lead the attacks on Perry and Gingrich. he also fund raised for Santorum to attack Perry and Gingrich. he’s real nasty man.
@ heysoos:
He’s responsible for the mess the GOP is in. He’s a relic of the past and needs to be shunned.
@ Rodan:
relic of the past is sorta my point….it’s a new day, he’s a proven loser, less and less relevant, yet there he is, up there making millions….he’s part of the problem, not the solution….it’s not about information, it’s about ratings….he’s a tool
@ Rodan:
Prior to this election, I didn’t think too much about Rove one way or the other -- however, this time, I was rather annoyed with his meddling, his White Board, and his sanctimonious drivel (how dare you guys not follow what I’m saying).
Personally, I think he was waiting for some campaign to hire him for more than his Fox gig was paying.
Rodan wrote:
I think there’s enough to go around. The RNC under Michael Steele was a farce. Priebus is much better, but not good enough fast enough. The advertising strategy was all wrong -- millions on TV but almost nothing on the internet versions of sites/publications that the demos we needed actually use.
@ eaglesoars:
Priebus is better, true, but he withheld needed funds from Congressional candidates that Boehner wanted gone. Priebus went on Mark Levin’s show and promised that the RNCC would be sure to funnel funds to Michele Bachmann’s campaign, especially since Pelosi was spending millions in the district to try to defeat her. He never sent a dime. I have reason to believe he did the same thing to Allen West. Bachmann barely held on to her seat (and yeah, she’s a lousy Presidential candidate, but she’s a solid conservative vote in the House) and West lost his.
Romney shill.
‘Nuff said.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Having a Y chromosome never stopped anybody from being a remarkably well-paid prostitute.
Rush is interviewing DeMint
@ Carolina Girl:
Hell, it’s not just the money -- the R establishment basically re-districted West out.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yup.
It’s long past time for a complete reboot of the GOP.
@ eaglesoars:
Yes and that was unforgivable. We need to clean house. We need to get rid of the ones up there that like their comfortable niche as the Opposition Party. The ones that have so continually pissed in the face of their base. People like Boehner, though he is only the face of the Establishment. We need to clean house, but I am afraid that we aren’t going to have the time.
eaglesoars wrote:
He has way too much power in the Republican Party.
Rodan wrote:
A symbol of the well despised GOP Establishment.
I would like to tell him where to put those chalk boards of his.
Carolina Girl wrote:
The GOP Establishement never felt comfortable with Allen West.
@ Iron Fist:
And don’t they KNOW that!
Meaty, Beaty, Big, and Bullying
Steyn: Obama aims to finish the work of FDR and LBJ to create ‘a big Sweden’ [VIDEO]
Karl Rove is most likey to fly fast back down to Dallas and work day and night to enable little boy Bush and B. Obama to get the “am-nasty” laws on the books asap.
We are going to get to see little boy Bush and B. Obama in a “joint” press release on how great “am-nasty” would be for all of U.S..
Mark my words this event is on the agenda of the two party evil money cult.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I would gladly trade West being re-elected if the price were Bachmann losing her seat.
ps
Rove without the Swiftboat vets blog and Navy Chiefs work getting the comm logs of Kerrys swiftboat time from the “Vietnam Archives” at Texas Tech U. in Lubbock, Bush would not have been re-elected.
He was and still is a go’fer for the east coast establishment RINO’s..
Some RINO’s just use the Rove types to get the dole done by the Democrats so’s their local “subjects” have enough “dole” money to
buy beer, cigaretts, used cars, and pay the Sec. 8 house requirement.
Rodan wrote:
Reaganomics is also a relict from the past
The Myths of Reaganomics
Any quarterback is ok with me. but they still have to win and can’t get outclassed by the other guys quarterback. A problem in the GoP is putting all their eggs in the basket of one quarterback and not have a good game plan.
taxfreekiller wrote:
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised
Barone: Higher Tax Rates Won’t Support Entitlement State
@ 20 eaglesoars: Conversations and persuasion are no longer local. They are viral like a Facebook friends list. Targeted and focused.
A local Akin gaffe has national implications. Money can’t be moved around traditionally anymore.
Obama asked many people to talk about him as his personal representative in the trenches. That message stuck and viraled out as community organizer for the people versus rich guy against the people.
I never saw a single Romney counter to that argument. He needed to put his service aspect of his life out there. Humility just elected the other guy.
Of some thinking on message:
Every Conservative blog in the U.S. should put up the vote difference between Romeny and Obama on their front page and leave it there.
Obama just got elected by a very very small number, he has no mandate at all.
And Fox can get rid of Bill Kristol while they’re at it
taxfreekiller wrote:
Yeah, that’s what Susan Estrich thought.
@ eaglesoars:
Good point.
Guggi wrote:
I agree. What Reagan did in the 80′s is irrelevant to today’s situation.
@ taxfreekiller:
You know Rove is meeting with Porky (Jeb) as we speak plotting to win the nomination in 2016.
@ Speranza:
Bachmann is a loon. I would trade West for Bachmann anyday.
@ Rodan:
Ah, I understand: when Reagan
spent like insane it was ok, but when O. spends like insane it’s a no no.
The same with defincit spending:
What made Reagan the miracle politician ?
Rodan wrote:
and twice on Sundays.
Just got to thinking, and posted this another place, what think you guys?
Say Charles Manson got elected as Pres. of U.S. and he did his normal deal and say this time he had it in for say the people of the middle east, sort of a big time clock work orange, a 100,000,000 or so into home invasions of the Sharon Tate kind, you know a rage of killing and destruction so’s that a new order could take the place of the current operation of the world there?
just saying
@ Guggi:
Reagan was anti-Communist presided over a booming economy. Much of his deficit spending as to build up the military. In fact Reagan’s deficits were going down the last 3 years of his Administration. It was Poppy Bush who exploded the deficit in 90,91 and 92.
I would take Regan over the Bushes, Clinton and Obama anyday. But Reagan was a man of his time. It was 30 years ago. Republicans need a new direction for the 21st Century.
Hope Jeb is as dumb as little George and he wastes some of daddy’s money stash too.@ Rodan:
@ taxfreekiller:
I’d vote for him if he wanted to destroy the Mideast!
@ Guggi:
It is as much what you are spending on as t is just the spending. Reagan spent on our defense. That enabled us to win the Cold War. It was cheap at the cost compared to a hot war with the Soviet Union or (worse) losing the Cold War. Obama spends millions to send campaign contributors on world junkets and billions chasing Green Fairy Dust projects that line his contributors pockets. Still, Reagan’s deficits were pocket change compared to Obama’s. Obama has borrowed more money than all the other presidents prior to W combined. Even W, a prolifigate spender, borrowed but half as much in twice as long as Obama.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
GMTA! Reagan’s deficits were necessary to rebuild our defenses that Nixon, Ford and Carter gutted after Vietnam.
@ Rodan:
And were cheap compared to the alternative. If Obama had done his stimulus and built a couple of new carrier battle groups and some SSBNs, I’d have been a lot more enthusiastic about it. Hell, fo rthe price he could have nuclearized the American power grid, creating millions of jobs and bringing us into the 21st Century, and it would have even been “Green”. He did none of that. He blew the money as assuredly as if he’d spent it all on hookers and cocaine.
Rodan wrote:
I agree but he was also a welfare president:
Looks like something else is after the oil, the cash flow and power it provides.
Take out the current rulers and replace them with your puppets.
Who the puppet master want to be’s are is unknown so far.
Possible it is our same old commies of lust world wide.
@ Rodan:
@ Guggi:
Do you want to debate Reagan vs. W Bush?
If Reagan was a welfare President, Bush was a Socialist.
Rodan wrote:
@ taxfreekiller:
I agree.
@ Guggi:
Reagan had a Democrat House and Senate. All spending has to go through the legislature (or it did until the Obama Regime). Reagan had to have budgets that he could get through Congress. You can thank Tip O’Neil for the welfare state under Reagan. Reagan never dreamed of ruling by Executive Fiat the way Obama has.
@ Guggi:
Nice try to defend Poppy, but here are the facts!
1987 $149.7 Billion Deficit
1988 $155.2 Billion Deficit
1989 $152.5 Billion Deficit
1989 was Reagan’s last Budget. Here are Poppy’s deficits.
1990 $221.2 Billion Deficit
1991 $269.3 Billion Deficit
1992 $290.4 Billion Deficit
1993 $255.1 Billion Deficit
@ Iron Fist:
It’s apples and oranges.
Please, god, make it stop
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Angry’ Jill Kelley to write tell-all book about Petraeus scandal as ‘payback for public humiliation that made her look like a fool’
dayum. I lily’d the thread
@ eaglesoars:
Here, I will help, I hope.
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! who could have foreseen this happening? /////
U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadis’ Hands
citizen_q wrote:
pfft. What do they think Benghazi was? It weren’t no ‘consulate’ it was a CIA outpost for funneling weapons
@ eaglesoars:
Bengazi? Nothing to see there! / MFM
Benghazi ? Not an “optimal” day for the four killed Americans.//////