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Guest Post: On the tragic loss of 20 innocent children

by coldwarrior ( 100 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Democratic Party, Education, Free Speech, government, Hate Speech, Liberal Fascism, Open thread, Patriotism, Political Correctness, Politics, Progressives, Second Amendment, Theocratic Progressives at December 15th, 2012 - 10:49 am

The Saturday Lecture can be found posted earlier.

 

From Dorian

On the tragic loss of 20 innocent children.

Posted by doriangrey1 on December 15, 2012

Many if not most people in America today are, in the wake of events on Connecticut, failing to understand the significance of that tragic event. Some see only the evil perpetrated by the young gunman, others, the liberals amongst us and a great percentage of the political class seem to be focusing their attention exclusively on the guns that he used and missing the point that the guns didn’t kill anyone out of their own volition. The truth however is that the political class and the liberals are not missing the point, they are intentionally acting to obfuscate the point. What they do not want you or anyone else to focus on is the responsibility that the individual bare in their actions.

If the individual is responsible, then there is nothing that the political class can do. Their are no laws they can pass, no money for them to appropriate, no committees to chair, no hearing to hold, no power to be obtained. It really is that simple.

What the shooter in Connecticut did when he took all those poor innocent lives was endemic of a mentality that has been carefully cultured in our society by our political class and the Fifth Column Treasonous Media. They have carefully nurtured a hedonistic narcissistic class of individuals for whom the notion of personal responsibility is alien and foreign. They have done this over the last 5 or 6 decades for one very simple reason, because it is profitable for them.

The media uses the allure and promise of sex to sell everything from candy to shoes. 15 and 16 year old girls are sexed up to sell lipstick, face-cream and hair care products to 30 and 40 year old women under the unspoken promise that if they just use these products they will look and feel like teenagers again. Scantily clad women are used to sell mid 20 through 50 year old men practically every product known to man, from shaving cream to power-tools and alcohol.

For the political class, the less each individual is responsible for their own actions, the more the state must step in and intervene and assume that responsibility. With each failure of the individual to take responsibility for their own action another law must be passed, another committee must be chaired, a study must be funded money and power must flow to those in the political class who will protect society from the wanton abandonment of moral and ethical responsibility by the individual.

Through propaganda and indoctrination that spanned his entire life, the young man who took so many innocent lives in Connecticut had carefully been conditioned to think certain things. What some of those things were can be deduced by the nature of the actions that he took. Through years of indoctrination he had been taught to see the entire world as revolving around him. His want’s, desires, needs, goals, aspirations, for his entire life he was taught that these were the most important things in life.

Moreover and perhaps even more importantly he had been indoctrinated into believing that the responsibility for, and any consequences of, his actions existed exclusively in the hear and now. In order for anyone to commit an atrocity of the nature and magnitude that he did there are several things that it is absolutely imperative that you believe.

You absolutely have to believe that something in your life is so painful and torturous so impossible to endure that the only possible solution, the only conceivable alleviation of that suffering is the heinous atrocity you are perpetrating. You have to be completely and totally of the belief that any consequence that might come after your actions is worth enduring in order to provide the relief from your current situation.

What we know by the Connecticut shooters final act is, that he did not believe that there would be any eternal consequences that would compare to those that he would face here and now because of his actions. By committing this atrocity and then killing himself he made the simple statement, Game Over, I Win.

No, it was not the guns fault, it was not the fault of inadequate firearms regulations, it wasn’t the fault of poor or insufficient mental health care. It wasn’t even the fault of the people around this young man who failed to see the warning signs of his coming actions. Regardless of the amount or degree of vile and despicable indoctrination from the Fifth Column Treasonous Media heaped on him during his life, honestly it isn’t even their fault. No matter how much the media indoctrinated him to believe that his needs could supersede those of his victims, that when he died it was over and there was nothing else, in the end, that young man, and no one else is responsible for his actions.

Meanwhile back in the real world, the carrion feeders in the Fifth Column Treasonous Media and the Political Class continue to put every bit of energy they can muster into finding any and every conceivable way to exploit this tragedy, to wring every last dollar, every last microgram of power and authority out of a shocked, horrified and painfully vulnerable public. The vultures in the Fifth Column Treasonous Media will interview the shocked and devastated survivors while the Political Class parasites pontificate and bluster with great verbosity attempting at all costs to assign blame for this horrific tragedy on something that they can exercise authority over. This is the culture they have created, that they knowingly and with a foreknowledge of malice continue to sustain.

Why? Because as I said before, it is profitable to them, power and money. Yes, it really is that simple.

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100 Responses to “Guest Post: On the tragic loss of 20 innocent children”
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  1. 1 | December 15, 2012 10:55 am

    Overall true. But I’d drop the sex part, because at the moment that doesn’t seem to bear on the issue.


  2. 2 | December 15, 2012 10:59 am

    As rayra at GCP posted yesterday….

    “I make my living off the Evening News
    Just give me something-something I can use
    People love it when you lose,
    They love dirty laundry

    Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
    I just have to look good, I don’t have to be clear
    Come and whisper in my ear
    Give us dirty laundry

    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em when they’re down
    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em when they’re down
    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em when they’re down
    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em all around

    We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde
    who comes on at five
    She can tell you ’bout the plane crash with a gleam
    in her eye
    It’s interesting when people die-
    Give us dirty laundry

    Can we film the operation?
    Is the head dead yet?
    You know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet
    Get the widow on the set!
    We need dirty laundry

    You don’t really need to find out what’s going on
    You don’t really want to know just how far it’s gone
    Just leave well enough alone
    Eat your dirty laundry

    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em when they’re down
    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em when they’re down
    Kick ‘em when they’re up
    Kick ‘em when they’re down
    Kick ‘em when they’re stiff
    Kick ‘em all around

    Dirty little secrets Dirty little lies
    We got our dirty little fingers in everybody’s pie
    We love to cut you down to size
    We love dirty laundry

    We can do “The Innuendo” We can dance and sing
    When it’s said and done we haven’t told you a thing
    We all know that Crap is King
    Give us dirty laundry!


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | December 15, 2012 11:00 am

    @ Mike C.:

    i was just going to reference that tune.


  4. 4 | December 15, 2012 11:02 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    i was just going to reference that tune.

    It crossed my mind while I was writing that as well.


  5. 5 | December 15, 2012 11:05 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I felt the lyrics were enough -- didn’t feel like posting a video.

    Prophetic lyrics, though, aren’t they?


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | December 15, 2012 11:05 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Mike C.:
    i was just going to reference that tune.

    It crossed my mind while I was writing that as well.

    we are going to run this thread till about 3 or 4 this afternoon.

    thx for the contribution


  7. 7 | December 15, 2012 11:05 am

    Er, make that “Prophetic.”

    Sorry.


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | December 15, 2012 11:06 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I felt the lyrics were enough — didn’t feel like posting a video.
    Prophetic lyrics, though, aren’t they?

    perfect.


  9. 9 | December 15, 2012 11:07 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Er, make that “Prophetic.”
    Sorry.

    Not so much prophetic as very insightful observations.


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | December 15, 2012 11:08 am

    The vultures in the Fifth Column Treasonous Media will interview the shocked and devastated survivors while the Political Class parasites pontificate and bluster with great verbosity attempting at all costs to assign blame for this horrific tragedy on something that they can exercise authority over. This is the culture they have created, that they knowingly and with a foreknowledge of malice continue to sustain.

    the predictable onslaught on the 2d amendment is just hours away


  11. 11 | December 15, 2012 11:09 am

    I hope Alan Gura is felling good and in fine form, because, as Bob said, “A hard rain’s a gonna fall…”


  12. heysoos
    12 | December 15, 2012 11:11 am

    ouch…good post


  13. 13 | December 15, 2012 11:11 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    The vultures in the Fifth Column Treasonous Media will interview the shocked and devastated survivors while the Political Class parasites pontificate and bluster with great verbosity attempting at all costs to assign blame for this horrific tragedy on something that they can exercise authority over. This is the culture they have created, that they knowingly and with a foreknowledge of malice continue to sustain.
    the predictable onslaught on the 2d amendment is just hours away

    Oh, it has already started, from all the usual and expected suspects.


  14. 14 | December 15, 2012 11:11 am

    Crap. “Feeling.”

    Might be a good time to buy one’s self some extra Christmas presents. They can always fall overboard during a fishing trip, yes?


  15. coldwarrior
    15 | December 15, 2012 11:13 am

    @ doriangrey:
    i’m in the middle of 2 day and now 2 mid shifts (gotta go to bed soon) so i was spared all of the crap on the news.

    oddly, most of the medical types i work with agreed that one or two armed teachers (and trained and certified) isnt a bad idea.

    i was VERY surprised buy the ammount and types of guns some of these peeps (especially the females) i work with have!

    WOW!!!!


  16. 16 | December 15, 2012 11:13 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Crap. “Feeling.”
    Might be a good time to buy one’s self some extra Christmas presents. They can always fall overboard during a fishing trip, yes?

    Indeed, some fishing trips have that tragic nature to them.


  17. 17 | December 15, 2012 11:14 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    i’m in the middle of 2 day and now 2 mid shifts (gotta go to bed soon) so i was spared all of the crap on the news.
    oddly, most of the medical types i work with agreed that one or two armed teachers (and trained and certified) isnt a bad idea.
    i was VERY surprised buy the ammount and types of guns some of these peeps (especially the females) i work with have!
    WOW!!!!

    It is always encouraging to discover that not everyone in America is batshit insane.


  18. unclassifiable
    18 | December 15, 2012 11:16 am

    Dorian,

    As a counterpoint, there are some indications that the shooter was not mentally stable.

    In your opinion, does there exist mental conditions where a person may be considered not to be able to function as a rational actor?

    It is clear that this person was solely responsible for this tragedy. Whether or not he is competent bares little impact on the course of action had he surrendered (lock him up for life or execution). But I am not altogether convinced that this is necessarily the best representation of the worst case scenario results of the culture and glorification of violence that people in the entertainment industry produce and people in the media promote.

    We have had many recent examples of clearly rational actors committing or promoting acts of violence (the shooting in Beaver falls and the Union assaults in Michigan just to name a few). These seem to be better examples.


  19. Guggi
    19 | December 15, 2012 11:21 am

    Coldwarrior,

    you didn’t ban “theoutsider”, did you ? He didn’t insult a commenter of the blogmocracy but Assad and this is certainly not a “blog crime” :-(


  20. 20 | December 15, 2012 11:22 am

    unclassifiable wrote:

    Dorian,
    As a counterpoint, there are some indications that the shooter was not mentally stable.
    In your opinion, does there exist mental conditions where a person may be considered not to be able to function as a rational actor?
    It is clear that this person was solely responsible for this tragedy. Whether or not he is competent bares little impact on the course of action had he surrendered (lock him up for life or execution). But I am not altogether convinced that this is necessarily the best representation of the worst case scenario results of the culture and glorification of violence that people in the entertainment industry produce and people in the media promote.
    We have had many recent examples of clearly rational actors committing or promoting acts of violence (the shooting in Beaver falls and the Union assaults in Michigan just to name a few). These seem to be better examples.

    Do such cases exist, yes without a doubt, but not in this case. The premeditated execution of 20 kindergarten children one by one excludes any possibility that he was unable to function as a rational actor.


  21. 21 | December 15, 2012 11:24 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Coldwarrior,
    you didn’t ban “theoutsider”, did you ? He didn’t insult a commenter of the blogmocracy but Assad and this is certainly not a “blog crime”

    If he did, it would not have been for insulting Assad or anyone else, it would have been for his language, which coldwarrior repeatedly asked him not to use.


  22. unclassifiable
    22 | December 15, 2012 11:33 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Well this may be the semantics were we disagree.

    I think really psychotic people can do exactly that. OCD folks will do the “one at a time” thing quite well but otherwise be totally off of their rocker. The shooter and his Mom are dead so we will have to await the allegorical evidence and, unfortunatly, that is being manipulated by the TFCM.

    And another unfortunate issue is that quite a few folks who SHOULD be dedicated to the scientific method have, instead, been co-opted by the TFCM to spin findings for “the common good”.

    We have a few folks on the blog who are better versed on the psychiatric aspects of this than I am.


  23. 23 | December 15, 2012 11:34 am

    It’s possible to insult Assad? Who knew?


  24. 4_Sticks
    24 | December 15, 2012 11:35 am

    As I switched between news channels last night I heard yet again, the one thing that drives me right up the wall -- to the point of yelling out loud at the tv: The damn violins/slow piano crap they come up with for every new tragedy. Its incomprehensible to me that people can be so damned calculating -- and like always, its done all in the name of ‘ratings’. How they can stand themselves … just disgusting to me.

    And, nice job Dorian, I think you ’bout covered it all.


  25. Brick
    25 | December 15, 2012 11:35 am

    Definitely one of your best works, Dorian. I would only add that you allow for the possibility that the young man was simply nuts; possibly taking orders from a dog named Ralph, or an unseen entity from the planet Meepzor or some such.


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | December 15, 2012 11:39 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Coldwarrior,
    you didn’t ban “theoutsider”, did you ? He didn’t insult a commenter of the blogmocracy but Assad and this is certainly not a “blog crime”

    not banned at all.


  27. Brick
    27 | December 15, 2012 11:45 am

    I like the idea about arming teachers. I feel the irony however, of that suggestion is lost on many as are the numerous things already employed to run day-to-day operations of schools (controlled/locked entrances,exits; bulletproof glass, controlled movement of students, etc.) -- that we would attempt to make a place to protect innocents (school) more like that of a place where we house the guilty. (prisons)

    Or, perhaps -- that is the end goal?


  28. 28 | December 15, 2012 11:46 am

    Brick wrote:

    Definitely one of your best works, Dorian. I would only add that you allow for the possibility that the young man was simply nuts; possibly taking orders from a dog named Ralph, or an unseen entity from the planet Meepzor or some such.

    Perhaps I should have allowed for the possibility of insanity, but I intentionally chose to leave that possibility out in this case because I simply cannot accept that any level of insanity could survive the act of premeditation and dedication required to execute 20 screaming crying hysterical and attempting to flee and hide kindergarten children.

    Remember, those poor babies knew what he was doing to them, they watched in abject horror as he killed their teacher, then one by one killed them. I simply refuse to accept that he was able to kill all of those children without the reality of what he was doing penetrating whatever mentally disturbed state or level of clinical insanity that he was suffering.


  29. eaglesoars
    29 | December 15, 2012 11:57 am

    This has probably already been said but I’ll say it again.

    And this is not to blame anyone but the shooter. After Virginia Tech, etc. -- how many times do you need to see that ONE adult legally armed could have saved so many lives. Just one.

    This is what self-imposed gun control looks like. Slaughter.

    I cannot imagine -- I will not go there for my own mental well-being -- what all those mothers who will never hold their babies again --

    ONE. ARMED. ADULT.

    And what did they have? A buzzer system at the door? Over the intercom? They got most of the kids out in a well-ordered line?

    You have got to be fucking kidding me.


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | December 15, 2012 12:04 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    good point (aside from the f bomb at the end…i just asked someone else to be easy on the language…so to be fair…)

    gun free zones are nothing more than a potential slaughterhouse.


  31. Da_Beerfreak
    31 | December 15, 2012 12:05 pm

    One of the points we really have to make clear is that when deterrence works no one gets hurt. This fact does not fit in with the liberal agenda and must be suppressed at all costs.


  32. coldwarrior
    32 | December 15, 2012 12:05 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Guggi wrote:
    Coldwarrior,
    you didn’t ban “theoutsider”, did you ? He didn’t insult a commenter of the blogmocracy but Assad and this is certainly not a “blog crime”

    If he did, it would not have been for insulting Assad or anyone else, it would have been for his language, which coldwarrior repeatedly asked him not to use.

    :lol:

    its a losing battle on my part.


  33. 33 | December 15, 2012 12:07 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Coldwarrior,
    you didn’t ban “theoutsider”, did you ? He didn’t insult a commenter of the blogmocracy but Assad and this is certainly not a “blog crime”

    He’s not ban. The Outsider was on 2 days ago.


  34. unclassifiable
    34 | December 15, 2012 12:08 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Completely agree. Cavuto was on last night and asked if it was reasonable to have armed security at all schools. The guest (do not know who that was) said yeah. Then Cavuto went on to movie theaters, churches, libraries, your house, and basically anywhere there are more than one person gathering. The reductio ad absurdum was spot on. A few armed citizens in the right place is the only solution.


  35. coldwarrior
    35 | December 15, 2012 12:15 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    A few armed citizens in the right place is the only solution.

    a concept lost on many.

    i am going to bet that the official line from the dems will be to not act on gun control. oh, they will fuel the fire and use it to distract everyone from the fiscal mess., but i dont see any real effort to ban guns again. its a losing issue that will cost anyone who does it dearly at the polls. we will see if the dems can be super disciplined and avoid this issue that they were hammered on in the past.


  36. RIX
    36 | December 15, 2012 12:18 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Charles has proven what a diabolical genius he is.
    He sent agent provocateur extraordinaire Johnnydowrong 2
    to disrupt operations yesterday.
    He may be the most ridiculous so far.


  37. ferb123
    37 | December 15, 2012 12:19 pm

    Brick wrote:

    I like the idea about arming teachers. I feel the irony however, of that suggestion is lost on many as are the numerous things already employed to run day-to-day operations of schools (controlled/locked entrances,exits; bulletproof glass, controlled movement of students, etc.) — that we would attempt to make a place to protect innocents (school) more like that of a place where we house the guilty. (prisons)
    Or, perhaps — that is the end goal?

    I dont think arming teachers would work. I think most teachers would not have any chance against such a killer, who planed to kill himself anyway.
    You can be happy if those teachers do not hurt themselves with a gun.


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | December 15, 2012 12:19 pm

    fortunately, i have been spared the ridiculous news coverage because of sleep and work.

    night all! (midnight shift awaits)


  39. RIX
    39 | December 15, 2012 12:20 pm

    FNC is reporting that Hillary has fainted, suffering a concussion.
    She is resting at home.


  40. 40 | December 15, 2012 12:21 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    It’s sad that a Lefty gets Syria more than some on the Right.

    But the worst case for the countries in the region, and for the Syrian people, does not imply a worst case for the United States. The Assad regime poses no credible threat to either the physical security or the economic fortunes of the United States, and its successor won’t either. Syria is a second-tier player in a region that has consumed thousands of American lives and several trillion dollars, to no good effect. Americans are now wisely turning their attention to Asia, and to domestic economic problems. Overt U.S. intervention at this late stage would deliver few tangible benefits, at the risk of dragging the United States into a conflict that doesn’t affect our vital security interests. Unsurprisingly, a Chicago Council survey found that 81 percent of Americans oppose sending U.S. troops into Syria. A separate poll by the Brookings Institution’s Shibley Telhami found that just 13 percent of respondents support a military mission in Syria.

    Meanwhile every Righty website except ours is calling for US intervention in Syria.


  41. RIX
    41 | December 15, 2012 12:24 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Meanwhile every Righty website except ours is calling for US intervention in Syria.

    That would be a no win situation.


  42. EBL
    42 | December 15, 2012 12:27 pm

    What is driving these murders are not guns…


  43. eaglesoars
    43 | December 15, 2012 12:30 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    (aside from the f bomb at the end…i just asked someone else to be easy on the language…so to be fair…)

    Apologies. Won’t happen again.


  44. unclassifiable
    44 | December 15, 2012 12:30 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ RIX:

    That’s all well and good but this administration is desperate for distractions from the soon to be all too real consequences of their unsustainable policies.

    After all they probably feel like they got all the public input they needed when Obama was re-elected.

    It’s FDR writ stupider.


  45. 45 | December 15, 2012 12:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    (aside from the f bomb at the end…i just asked someone else to be easy on the language…so to be fair…)
    Apologies. Won’t happen again.

    Chuckle chuckle, have gotten my knuckles rapped a couple of times too… :wink:


  46. RIX
    46 | December 15, 2012 12:33 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    If I was betting, I would bet that Obama gets us involved
    in Syria.
    Air support at the very least.


  47. 47 | December 15, 2012 12:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I wouldn’t put it past O to trot out some proposals anyway. He’s no more loyal to the Dems than he he is to anything other than himself. If he can put on the sackcloth and ashes and be seen crying “Repent! Repent!” enough, he might garner a second Peace Prize, or at least a lot of profitable gigs down the road. What does he care if some Dem congressman or senator loses an election? In fact, it doesn’t even matter if he tries abrogating the 2nd by Executive Order and then gets smacked down by SCOTUS, does it? As the bard said. “The play’s the thing!”


  48. unclassifiable
    48 | December 15, 2012 12:41 pm

    @ RIX:

    New troops in both Iraq and Turkey.

    Look, I’ll admit that I have supported most military actions. That said, one of the controlling factors in my support is if you feel that the leadership is sufficiently engaged with the action and has clearly communicated the reason and objectives.

    I may be accused of having blinders on when there was a (perceived) conservative in charge. OK. Guilty.

    But if the blinders come off now, am I to be accused of bias because I’m not letting the Dims “have their turn” at international brinkmanship?

    Let’s be clear. The DNC’s overall attitude about the military just plain stinks on many levels. The GOP is a mixed bag on this account but if you look at the overall disposition of the troops towards the respective CIC’s I think you get a pretty good idea at who is at least perceived to be more competent.


  49. Guggi
    49 | December 15, 2012 12:43 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    not banned at all.

    ok, thank you :-)


  50. unclassifiable
    50 | December 15, 2012 12:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ eaglesoars:
    @ doriangrey:

    Are we really cutting down on cussing? Y’all have been pretty lenient with me. Maybe it is that golden combination of cussing with stupid that crosses the “red line” (gawd there’s that term again)?

    Then again I have probably crossed that line too at times. I’ll try to be careful.


  51. RIX
    51 | December 15, 2012 12:48 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    New troops in both Iraq and Turkey.

    Look, I’ll admit that I have supported most military actions. That said, one of the controlling factors in my support is if you feel that the leadership is sufficiently engaged with the action and has clearly communicated the reason and objectives.

    My problem is that we send our troops with no winning strategy.
    They get killed and maimed & we don’t have a goal.
    If we are going to go after Al Queda on the Arabian Penninsula, lets
    do it.
    Otherwise bring the troops home.


  52. 52 | December 15, 2012 12:48 pm

    Good Grief, it’s taking so long for my e-mail server to respond that I now suspect Erick Holders Department of Injustice must be examining every bit of e-mail traffic going in and out of my account. I guess they really didn’t like my last article about them. :shock:


  53. 53 | December 15, 2012 12:49 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Ultimately we would be a much safer society if the average adult carried a gun. You aren’t going to be able to sell that though. People want to be taken care of, not take care of themselves. At least that is what I take away from the last election.


  54. eaglesoars
    54 | December 15, 2012 12:50 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    Are we really cutting down on cussing?

    Their house, their rules.

    Can’t go to an open house party, poop on the rug and complain about the guest list.


  55. eaglesoars
    55 | December 15, 2012 12:55 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Ultimately we would be a much safer society if the average adult carried a gun. You aren’t going to be able to sell that though. People want to be taken care of, not take care of themselves. At least that is what I take away from the last election.

    Our ‘hood has 72 houses. 58 of them have registered weapons. ALL 58 are registered to the women.

    Fairfax County Police love us. Srsly.


  56. 56 | December 15, 2012 12:56 pm

    RIX wrote:

    FNC is reporting that Hillary has fainted, suffering a concussion.
    She is resting at home.

    She probably fainted because Ambassador Stevens showed up as the Ghost of Christmas to come.


  57. unclassifiable
    57 | December 15, 2012 12:56 pm

    Crossing the (red) line and the fiscal cliff.


  58. unclassifiable
    58 | December 15, 2012 12:57 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Agreed.


  59. 59 | December 15, 2012 12:58 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    You have gun registration in Virginia?? I guess I won’t be moving there!


  60. unclassifiable
    60 | December 15, 2012 1:00 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Just explain to them that you are one of theirs and you are one of those “cranky old racist plants” to discredit conservatives.

    It will take them about a year or two to actually corroborate that. Should be enough time to go underground.


  61. RIX
    61 | December 15, 2012 1:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    FNC is reporting that Hillary has fainted, suffering a concussion.
    She is resting at home.

    She probably fainted because Ambassador Stevens showed up as the Ghost of Christmas to come.

    She did have the flu, but Stevens would have freaked for sure.
    Susan Rice said that Hillary was too tired to do the talk
    shows after Benghazi.
    That was a slap at her.


  62. 62 | December 15, 2012 1:03 pm

    RIX wrote:

    She did have the flu,

    Maybe she has contracted a certain virus that starts with Flu like symptoms… :twisted:


  63. 63 | December 15, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    It does not help that the National Republican Party is helping this clown. I wish the Local GOP’s would take control of the party.


  64. 64 | December 15, 2012 1:06 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Our old pal Chucky is calling for Gun Control.


  65. unclassifiable
    65 | December 15, 2012 1:06 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    @ RIX:

    You know she has pretty much been stabbed in the back at every turn by Democrats.

    We might be able to turn her.


  66. 66 | December 15, 2012 1:07 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    It depends on the time of day.


  67. unclassifiable
    67 | December 15, 2012 1:09 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Well I have almost pretty much given up on the party.

    I think a better role for me might be amateur classical liberal agitator.

    Of course the short form is “old crank” but I am beginning to warm up to that tag.


  68. RIX
    68 | December 15, 2012 1:10 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    She did have the flu,

    Maybe she has contracted a certain virus that starts with Flu like symptoms…

    She is a Clinton, anything is possible.


  69. common_sense
    69 | December 15, 2012 1:10 pm

    Did anyone blame Boeing when their planes killed 3,000 people on 9/11/2001 ?

    Did anyone ever consider this nutjob got his guns from the Fast and Furious people ? Or that more people are killed in Mexico every day from Obama’s Fast and Furious guns than were killed in CT yesterday ?

    Anyone tie together that all the recent shootings have been done by College students ? WTF are they teaching them ? Answer: hate!
    hate for whitey, America, the rich, heteros, believers, conservatives, etc.

    And all that was said about the media/Holywood is true -- THEY PERPETUATE, ACCENTUATE AND AGGRAVATE THE HATE. (the money quote)


  70. unclassifiable
    70 | December 15, 2012 1:11 pm

    @ Rodan:

    OK so keep it out of prime time and on the OOT?


  71. RIX
    71 | December 15, 2012 1:11 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    @ RIX:

    You know she has pretty much been stabbed in the back at every turn by Democrats.

    We might be able to turn her.

    They did stick it to her.


  72. RIX
    72 | December 15, 2012 1:15 pm

    See ya later.


  73. 73 | December 15, 2012 1:16 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    @ RIX:
    You know she has pretty much been stabbed in the back at every turn by Democrats.
    We might be able to turn her.

    Schadenfreude is watching the Democrat Party subject Hillary Clinton to the death of 1000 paper cuts… :twisted:


  74. eaglesoars
    74 | December 15, 2012 1:28 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    You have gun registration in Virginia?? I guess I won’t be moving there!

    pfft. It takes 3 minutes to do the background check when purchasing a weapon -- as in have you committed a violent felony recently? -- and your name goes in a database somewhere. I think. I think that because a few years ago when the police decided to stop by because of the nutcase kids next door -- they knew what weapon I have.

    There is no paperwork to file here unless you go for concealed carry. That’s about 4 pages.

    The police here -- I can’t say enough good about them. I remember NT2U talking about corrupt cops in her town -- but the cops here? As far as I can tell, we are beyond lucky……one of them told me that every cop in the world knows women are the most dangerous animals on the planet so they are pretty aware that this neighborhood is armed by women. To the teeth.


  75. huckfunn
    75 | December 15, 2012 1:42 pm

    What really pisses me off are these so-called “celebrities” launching screeds against guns when it is the entertainment industry, with Hollyweird as their capitol city, that is the most prolific purveyor of all manner of violence. Every day millions of children watch thousands of people being murdered and assaulted in movies and on TV. Every day millions of children, via video games, take part in the virtual slaughter of millions of humans, zombies and other critters. And the irony is that all of those celebs who create all of the onscreen violence live behind layers of private and public security provided by people with guns. The stench of their hypocrisy is overwhelming. Not only that, I’ve never heard of most of them.


  76. 76 | December 15, 2012 1:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    You have gun registration in Virginia?? I guess I won’t be moving there!

    No, there is no gun registration in Virginia. Nor is there any waiting period on handgun purchase or limit on number of handgun purchases/month. We have legal open carry, too, something Texas doesn’t have. And getting a CCW permit in VA is about as easy as it is in any state that still requires one (4 states don’t.)


  77. eaglesoars
    77 | December 15, 2012 1:49 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Here is your cultural ammo.

    The Hungerford Massacre.

    The UK. Where guns are banned.

    gotta go.


  78. 78 | December 15, 2012 1:49 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Regardless of that last national vote, VA at the state level is moving right, not left.


  79. eaglesoars
    79 | December 15, 2012 1:52 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    We have legal open carry, too,

    Yeah, we do. But I find it to be a bit dicey. I don’t want to be in the bank noticeably armed. Target for the bad guys. Also, in the grocery store? For some reason, it freaks out many people.

    *sigh*


  80. 80 | December 15, 2012 2:06 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Oh, exercising that right will get one introduced to a wide range of local and state LEOs, no doubt about it, because people freak out. But it is legal.

    Four years I watched the Trailriders in their horse-drawn wagons and on horseback riding into Houston to participate in the annual rodeo, and it always looked fake, because all these cowboy wannabes had not a Colt or a Winchester in sight. That’s just wrong…


  81. Mars
    81 | December 15, 2012 2:19 pm

    ferb123 wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    I like the idea about arming teachers. I feel the irony however, of that suggestion is lost on many as are the numerous things already employed to run day-to-day operations of schools (controlled/locked entrances,exits; bulletproof glass, controlled movement of students, etc.) — that we would attempt to make a place to protect innocents (school) more like that of a place where we house the guilty. (prisons)
    Or, perhaps — that is the end goal?

    I dont think arming teachers would work. I think most teachers would not have any chance against such a killer, who planed to kill himself anyway.
    You can be happy if those teachers do not hurt themselves with a gun.

    Sorry Ferb even though you make a valid point it has been proven wrong multiple times already.

    In every situation where a gunman attacked and firearms were available the gunman was taken out before the situation escalated out of control. Casualties were kept to a minimum.

    The facts just don’t support your theory.

    http://www.davekopel.com/2a/othwr/principal&gun.htm

    http://www.schoolshooters.info/PL/Prevention_files/Ten%20Lessons.pdf

    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/25/153427.shtml


  82. Mars
    82 | December 15, 2012 2:25 pm

    I’ve noticed a very bad pattern going on though. In the last couple school shootings there is a call for profiling the children going on. Even in this case I’ve seen a little of that, but from what I can see since he wasn’t a student, it wouldn’t have changed anything.

    Profiling the kids is a bad idea, as it leads to preemptive punishment for crimes not committed, and frankly makes it more likely they will be committed.


  83. 83 | December 15, 2012 2:48 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    Use your desecration.


  84. 84 | December 15, 2012 2:50 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Here is how the Entertainment industry should be dealt with.

    Tax Them!


  85. heysoos
    86 | December 15, 2012 3:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Mayor Mike Bloomberg calls for more gun laws

    I wonder what ‘immediate action’ means exactly…as usual these guys are just blowing smoke and rarely provide any details


  86. 87 | December 15, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ heysoos:

    It’s to “feel” good.


  87. 88 | December 15, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Bloomberg can talk when he walks through Harlem without a bodyguard.


  88. 89 | December 15, 2012 3:40 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Of course, they made their statements behind iron gates with their armed security standing nearby.


  89. darkwords
    90 | December 15, 2012 4:05 pm

    @ Brick: At least the principal? I’m usually down on teachers, but the teachers here performed with as much courage as any Navy Seal.


  90. unclassifiable
  91. unclassifiable
    92 | December 15, 2012 4:09 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Rodan, sometimes your are a veritable Yogi Berra:)

    And that is not a bad thing.


  92. darkwords
    93 | December 15, 2012 4:15 pm

    The community sets the boundaries through conventional policies agreed upon in a legislature. By law should this guy have been allowed to run around loose until he committed a crime like this? There is influence from direct law and indirect effects of a law.

    At the very least these types of individuals need to be educated that they will lose all love in their life and be shunned by 100 percent of the population. And that the preferable solution to their problem that is torturing them is a self inflicted gun shot wound. If they are such a loser they can’t seek and acquire help.

    Help though for the mentally ill is expensive and poorly focused.

    Even the insane have lucid thoughts. Are able to make sane decisions while insane. Most of them cope. A few of them crack.

    A group assisted living home would have directed this kid better.


  93. darkwords
    94 | December 15, 2012 4:26 pm

    It says he the loser had an altercation at the school the day before. As a man when that happens you visit his house and scare the shit out of him. Or the police do. You make the problem he had at the school seem insignificant. There’s a law there.


  94. 95 | December 15, 2012 5:04 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Good God, shooting these innocent children as many as eleven times? Words fail me.


  95. coldwarrior
    96 | December 15, 2012 5:18 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    (aside from the f bomb at the end…i just asked someone else to be easy on the language…so to be fair…)
    Apologies. Won’t happen again.

    it happens….dont sweat it.

    :)

    (you should hear me sometimes…OH MY!)


  96. Brick
    97 | December 15, 2012 5:30 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    unclassifiable wrote:
    Are we really cutting down on cussing?
    Their house, their rules.
    Can’t go to an open house party, poop on the rug and complain about the guest list.

    I used to all the time. I’ve noticed it cuts down considerably on the invitations one gets around the holidays.


  97. huckfunn
    98 | December 15, 2012 6:48 pm

    Majestic swearing:


  98. darkwords
    100 | December 15, 2012 10:42 pm

    The news is hard to read. Just heartbreakers. If I am going to lay a political blame to anyone it would be Obama, union thugs, and OWS. All are ok with violence to achieve social ends. all get all the media coverage they want. All set the tone for this loser killer. However it is not useful as a society to track the tragedy directly back to these people. Better to call out people who can and can’t resolve social problems civilly.


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