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NFL Week 15 Open Thread 2

by huckfunn ( 45 Comments › )
Filed under NFL, Open thread at December 16th, 2012 - 9:12 pm

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  1. Da_Beerfreak
    1 | December 16, 2012 9:15 pm

    Tap, Tap, Tap, is this thing on??


  2. huckfunn
    2 | December 16, 2012 9:16 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Tap, Tap, Tap, is this thing on??

    Yes, but your’s is broken.


  3. Mars
    3 | December 16, 2012 9:18 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    Comrade zero’s voice is the sound of liberty and freedom dying.

    We had our Christmas party yesterday. This entire neighborhood is military in some form or other. I think Hubby and I are the only civilians. As the evening wore down — our neighbor — great guy — Navy intelligence(NCIS) — knows everything that’s wrong with Obama.
    But he CAN NOT attribute it to bad intentions. That would break his mind.
    Maybe that explains a lot of what I/we see — POTUS is the enemy? Well, where do you take it from there? So you just don’t go there.

    Must have been an officer. You usually don’t see that kind of idiocy from enlisted unless they are supporting him for “racial” reasons.


  4. Da_Beerfreak
    4 | December 16, 2012 9:19 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Tap, Tap, Tap, is this thing on??

    Yes, but your’s is broken.

    Wouldn’t surprises me at all. I’m always running out of duct tape around here. Now where’s that darn can of WD-40… :wink:


  5. citizen_q
    5 | December 16, 2012 9:22 pm

    Mars wrote:

    But he CAN NOT attribute it to bad intentions. That would break his mind.

    Problem is, that it is not just comrade zero. He has help, lots of help.


  6. Mars
    6 | December 16, 2012 9:23 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    But he CAN NOT attribute it to bad intentions. That would break his mind.
    Problem is, that it is not just comrade zero. He has help, lots of help.

    And capable handlers that are very bad intentioned.

    Never saw this chart before. Nicely put together. Should be about 10 times this size at the end of this term.


  7. song_and_dance_man
    7 | December 16, 2012 9:25 pm

    Mars wrote:

    You usually don’t see that kind of idiocy from enlisted unless they are supporting him for “racial” reasons.

    Or looking for a favorable promotion based on ass-kissing.


  8. Mars
    8 | December 16, 2012 9:28 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    You usually don’t see that kind of idiocy from enlisted unless they are supporting him for “racial” reasons.
    Or looking for a favorable promotion based on ass-kissing.

    There is some of that. Still winds up being mostly the officers playing that game though.


  9. eaglesoars
    9 | December 16, 2012 9:32 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Must have been an officer. You usually don’t see that kind of idiocy from enlisted unless they are supporting him for “racial” reasons.

    Yes. He’s a very good guy. He’s been deployed but no combat. It embarasses him.

    It’s odd. You can walk to Ft Belvoir from our house. I meet many soldiers at the local CVS drugstore when I go shopping and they see me buying stuff that is obviously for soldiers (baby wipes, etc). The ONLY combat-experienced troops I’ve met are enlisted.

    The few -- maybe 5 -- who were willing to talk to me about it -- don’t like Patraeus as leader.


  10. Mars
    10 | December 16, 2012 9:39 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    Must have been an officer. You usually don’t see that kind of idiocy from enlisted unless they are supporting him for “racial” reasons.
    Yes. He’s a very good guy. He’s been deployed but no combat. It embarasses him.
    It’s odd. You can walk to Ft Belvoir from our house. I meet many soldiers at the local CVS drugstore when I go shopping and they see me buying stuff that is obviously for soldiers (baby wipes, etc). The ONLY combat-experienced troops I’ve met are enlisted.
    The few — maybe 5 — who were willing to talk to me about it — don’t like Patraeus as leader.

    I’ve known some great officers. Most of the ones who get combat experience are pretty good. It’s the ones who only go to get the experience for their resume (so they can get their star) are usually worthless.


  11. Bumr50
    11 | December 16, 2012 9:53 pm

    So glad those officials got those golden pensions…


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | December 16, 2012 10:03 pm

    off to do some reading -- nite everyone

    Oh. One more thing. Please forgive another Molly story --

    so we had our Christmas party yesterday. SOMEBODY (that would be me) made the mistake of giving the beagle some beef wellington.

    Now she won’t eat the chicken I make for her. The damn dog lays by the fridge and if I haul anything out but the leftover beef wellington I am a complete and utter failure.

    God help me.


  13. 15 | December 16, 2012 10:17 pm

    I submitted my application/resume yesterday for the other insurance job. Unfortunately, I didn’t find it until it’d been listed for about 3 weeks, so I may be S.O.L. I hope to hear something this week, though. From the ad, it looks fairly similar to what I’m doing, but more for benefits for a company than as an agent. It’d be a nice raise, too- almost back to where I was before I got canned a few years ago.


  14. lobo91
    16 | December 16, 2012 10:24 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    Good luck


  15. Bumr50
    17 | December 16, 2012 10:30 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    I hope you get it!


  16. darkwords
    18 | December 16, 2012 10:33 pm

    Fodder for lefty forums on gun control


  17. 19 | December 16, 2012 10:38 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ Bumr50:

    Thanks. :)


  18. 20 | December 16, 2012 10:40 pm

    @ darkwords:

    With the murder of 20+ people at a school in China from stabbings, should we also ban knives?


  19. lobo91
    21 | December 16, 2012 10:40 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    With the murder of 20+ people at a school in China from stabbings, should we also ban knives?

    Only in China.


  20. 22 | December 16, 2012 10:44 pm

    The 49ers are destroying The Patriots.


  21. Mars
    23 | December 16, 2012 10:45 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    With the murder of 20+ people at a school in China from stabbings, should we also ban knives?

    The genius Teddy Kennedy once put forward a bill that due to bad research and writing by his people would have banned all edged metal objects in this country.


  22. 24 | December 16, 2012 10:45 pm

    @ Mars:

    I wish the Republicans would attack Democrats for being anti-Video Games.


  23. 25 | December 16, 2012 10:47 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Maybe we should ban Chinese-made knives.


  24. Mars
    26 | December 16, 2012 10:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    I wish the Republicans would attack Democrats for being anti-Video Games.

    Yep. And yet every forum I go to thinks the republicans are behind the bans.

    Really Jack Thompson, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Lieberman were the most vocal about bans. All were dems at the time.


  25. 27 | December 16, 2012 10:48 pm

    @ Mars:

    That idiot should have been jailed for his role in the death at Chappaquiddick. Of course, being a Kennedy, and a liberal Democrat, means nothing is off limits.


  26. darkwords
    28 | December 16, 2012 10:49 pm

    protect kids from risk but dont neuter the world to do it. educate.


  27. darkwords
    29 | December 16, 2012 10:51 pm

    Maybe ban HAMAS and state why at the UN and splash it across the world media. We want kids to be safe.


  28. 30 | December 16, 2012 10:51 pm

    @ Mars:

    I would hang this statement on the Dems.


  29. Mars
    31 | December 16, 2012 10:52 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ Mars:
    That idiot should have been jailed for his role in the death at Chappaquiddick. Of course, being a Kennedy, and a liberal Democrat, means nothing is off limits.

    Very true. Instead he got elected for life.

    This is what is bothering me the most about our current political culture.

    Unless you resign, the press does a hatchet job on you, or some other circumstance presents, you are in office for life if you are in the house or senate.


  30. lobo91
    32 | December 16, 2012 10:53 pm

    @ Mars:

    Republicans get blamed for the nonsense over song lyrics, too.

    last time I checked, Tipper Gore was a Democrat.


  31. Calo
    33 | December 16, 2012 10:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The 49ers are destroying The Patriots.

    I don’t want to see it.


  32. Mars
    34 | December 16, 2012 10:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    I would hang this statement on the Dems.

    It should be, but with a compliant media it won’t happen.

    We can shout it to the stars, but we’re shouting into a vacuum. I’ve tried correcting people on the forums about this kind of stuff, but they all get vulgar and repulsive and refuse to accept the truth.


  33. Mars
    35 | December 16, 2012 10:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Mars:
    Republicans get blamed for the nonsense over song lyrics, too.
    last time I checked, Tipper Gore was a Democrat.

    Yep that’s the number one thing I bring up. Sure we have people on our side that open their mouths and condemn things. But, only one party acts to ban them. Yet the public at large (including here) can’t see the difference.

    The conservatives could go on a vow of silence and the press would still report that we are attacking people.

    The dem party has always been the party of prohibition, from their beginnings in this country as religious socialists through actual prohibition, up to their modern attempts to ban music, games, tobacco, alcohol, sugar, and fat.


  34. Mars
    36 | December 16, 2012 10:59 pm

    Mars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ Mars:
    Republicans get blamed for the nonsense over song lyrics, too.
    last time I checked, Tipper Gore was a Democrat.

    Yep that’s the number one thing I bring up. Sure we have people on our side that open their mouths and condemn things. But, only one party acts to ban them. Yet the public at large (including here) can’t see the difference.
    The conservatives could go on a vow of silence and the press would still report that we are attacking people.
    The dem party has always been the party of prohibition, from their beginnings in this country as religious socialists through actual prohibition, up to their modern attempts to ban music, games, tobacco, alcohol, sugar, and fat.

    Oh and of course guns, conservative political thought, alternative schools, religious freedom, medical choices, and cars that are not capable of achieving unreachable standards.


  35. mawskrat
    37 | December 16, 2012 11:01 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    With the murder of 20+ people at a school in China from stabbings, should we also ban knives?

    Florida man accused of killing neighbor with a hammer

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/florida-man-accused-killing-neighbor-with-hammer/?test=latestnews#ixzz2FHJUMNAC

    we know the home improvement lobby is behind keeping hammers legal//


  36. 38 | December 16, 2012 11:08 pm

    @ mawskrat:

    AAAAHHHH! Ban hammers! 15 day waiting period! No hammers that are too large, or that can drive more than 4 nails in a row in.


  37. 39 | December 16, 2012 11:10 pm

    Question, though: Since the 2nd Amendment mentions ‘A well regulated militia…’, what would you consider ‘well regulated’?


  38. lobo91
    40 | December 16, 2012 11:16 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    Question, though: Since the 2nd Amendment mentions ‘A well regulated militia…’, what would you consider ‘well regulated’?

    According to the Constitution, that’s up to Congress to decide.


  39. Mars
    41 | December 16, 2012 11:17 pm

    The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:

    1709: “If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations.”

    1714: “The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world.”

    1812: “The equation of time … is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial.”

    1848: “A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor.”

    1862: “It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding.”

    1894: “The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city.”

    The phrase “well-regulated” was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.

    http://constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

    Better than I could phrase it.


  40. lobo91
    42 | December 16, 2012 11:18 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    Article I, Section 8:

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


  41. Mars
    43 | December 16, 2012 11:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ mfhorn:
    Article I, Section 8:
    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    That’s part of it, but I wonder if the well regulated referred to another part since Hamilton says in the Federalist Papers:

    The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, nor a week nor even a month, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry and of the other classes of the citizens to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people and a serious public inconvenience and loss.
    — The Federalist Papers, No. 29.

    Since they wanted an armed populace, then it seems this would speak against them being military trained.


  42. mawskrat
    44 | December 16, 2012 11:25 pm

    “well-regulated” Militia…..a militia that has a high fiber diet


  43. lobo91
    45 | December 16, 2012 11:32 pm

    10 USC § 311 -- Militia: composition and classes:

    (a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

    (b)The classes of the militia are—
    (1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

    (2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


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