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Yet Another NMA Review OOT

by Macker ( 31 Comments › )
Filed under Entertainment, Movies, OOT, Open thread at December 16th, 2012 - 11:00 pm

This time, it’s about The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey…the first of three films! And this time, the voiceover is in English! Not Engrish, mind you…but English!
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtLsu-VzHQ
I went this past Saturday evening, and I have to say that even I, as a long-time Tolkien aficianado, was amazed once again by Peter Jackson’s masterful work, not to mention the actors themselves! Amazed once again by Sir Ian McKellan and Sir Christopher Lee, who are 73 and 90, respectively.
So let’s take a moment or Eleventy! and leave your comments as to whether you saw it and what you thought of it…and then go after the NMA folks in turn, for it’s an Overnight Open Thread!

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  1. 1 | December 16, 2012 11:11 pm

    A group of friends, Mrs MF, and I are going next Saturday. One of our group works at a local theater & we’ll be seeing it in IMAX.


  2. 2 | December 16, 2012 11:13 pm

    Christopher Lee alone might make this worth watching. Tolkien spun in his grave when FotR and TTT came out, that he didn’t make Saruman the main villain. (So I suspect.)

    Although I’m worried about the movie’s bloat. The Hobbit is not Lord of the Rings; it needs to be two movies or a TV series, and not a movie trilogy.


  3. Mars
    3 | December 16, 2012 11:27 pm

    There is a lot of bloat from what I understand but most of that is still taken from material written by Tolkein.

    My only issue with the treatment of Saruman was that they did not deal with what he did to the Shire after his escape from the White Tower.

    Critics have been kind of assy about it, but the sales numbers speak for themselves.


  4. 4 | December 16, 2012 11:44 pm

    Okay, there’s so much sexual innuendo in the series that I don’t know where to start, so I’ll start here.

    Bilbo is the name. Replace the first and fourth letters with the letter D and it’s obvious. Then he finds a Freudian “ring” in the dark, and sticks his finger into it. He and his finger became invisible, and it felt good. He liked the feeling. A lot.

    Need I go on? Yes I do, because the entire saga is about racism, sexual innuendo and being unarmed. Look, everyone in Middle Earth hates hobbits, until the hobbits found an ally who had the bomb – Gandalf.


  5. 5 | December 16, 2012 11:52 pm

    @ Bunk X:
    So then Gandalf pretended to lead them and protect them, but led them into a real crappy situation. Sure, he blew up a Balrog, but screwed the Fellowship big time.


  6. 6 | December 16, 2012 11:57 pm

    @ Bunk X:
    Gandalf was a real dick for that one. It was kinda like, “Hey kids! Imma gonna go kill me that bar!” Then he got shredded. Left them in the darkness to fend for themselves.


  7. Da_Beerfreak
    7 | December 17, 2012 12:04 am

    @ Bunk X:
    If you didn’t like it just say so.

    GAZE


  8. 8 | December 17, 2012 12:16 am

    Okay, I’m getting the story mixed up a bit between The Hobbit and LOTR.
    Gandalf showed up at Bilbo’s house, threw some graffiti on the door, and advertised a party that trashed Bag End and caused Bilbo to run for his life.


  9. 9 | December 17, 2012 12:20 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Didn’t like what? I didn’t see the movie. I’m just being snarky, trying to rile the fans for traffic, and there hasn’t been much traffic on the OOT lately.

    Luke Skywalker was a homo, and Yoda was a dyslexic fascist.


  10. 10 | December 17, 2012 12:24 am

    Tom Bombadil was light in his loafers, too, but at least he could take care of himself… all alone… with his animals…


  11. yenta-fada
    11 | December 17, 2012 12:38 am

    Grrrr. h/t iowntheworld
    Ohio imam gets just 1 year in $3.8M food stamp fraud

    via Man in $3.8M food stamp fraud case sentenced | http://www.daytondailynews.com.

    A federal judge on Thursday sentenced Al-Idu Al-Gaheem to one year and one day in prison for his role in a scheme that bilked $3.8 million from the federal food stamp program.

    Al-Gaheem, the former owner of two Dayton View businesses and the imam of Masjid At-Taqwa mosque, was the second of four defendants to be sentenced in the case. All four defendants have pleaded guilty.

    Al-Gaheem faced as many as four years in prison after he pleaded guilty in August to felony charges of conspiracy to commit money laundering and conspiracy to commit wire fraud, food stamp trafficking and structuring transactions to avoid reporting requirements.

    Al-Gaheem, who previously was named Lawrence Phillips, was the owner of Five Pillars Market, 1263 W. Riverview Ave., and Riverview Cell & Cup of Dreams, 512 N. Broadway St.

    Al-Gaheem worked and conspired with Abdul Yamini Sr., Abdul Qadir and Omar Yahya to defraud the food-assistance program. The men illegally paid customers 50 cents in cash for every $1 in food stamp benefits they redeemed.

    Undercover law enforcement agents caught the defendants illegally trading cash for food stamp benefits and buying and selling products that are ineligible through the program, such as counterfeit clothing and firearms.

    Authorities estimate that more than 1,000 transactions took place at Five Pillars Market that involved the illegal exchange of food benefits. The federal government deposited about $3.8 million into bank accounts controlled by Al-Gaheem and others as reimbursement for food benefits redeemed at Five Pillars.

    Al-Gaheem repeatedly withdrew large amounts of cash from the bank account, but he always took out sums that were just less than the threshold that requires the filing of federal financial reports.


  12. yenta-fada
    12 | December 17, 2012 12:39 am

    Bunk X wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Didn’t like what? I didn’t see the movie. I’m just being snarky, trying to rile the fans for traffic, and there hasn’t been much traffic on the OOT lately.

    Luke Skywalker was a homo, and Yoda was a dyslexic fascist.

    I KNEW you hadn’t seen it. Of course, I’m too polite to say so. /


  13. AZfederalist
    13 | December 17, 2012 12:41 am

    @ Bunk X:

    You’ll like this (I think). Much better than the original video for the song:

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fToLlHSbhS8


  14. 14 | December 17, 2012 12:42 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    If you didn’t like it just say so.
    GAZE

    “Gaze?” That’s SO LGF.
    But Tom Bombadil could SING.


  15. 15 | December 17, 2012 12:44 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    I read it. Why should I go see a book? ;)


  16. yenta-fada
    16 | December 17, 2012 12:48 am

    Bunk X wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I read it. Why should I go see a book?

    A question asked by many moviegoers these days. We seem to have lost all the video rental places, so now we don’t watch movies… Unless hubby wants to buy one now and then.


  17. yenta-fada
    17 | December 17, 2012 1:00 am

    Iowahawk tweets. :-)

    http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/280497957877469184


  18. 18 | December 17, 2012 1:04 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    Popular media has no soul anymore – it’s just noise to me. There are a few exceptions, but I gave up TV long ago. Movies in the theaters? Nah. Too crowded, too expensive and too loud. Ditto music concerts, and as for the latter, too little talent for my taste.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moiv9UBlND8


  19. 19 | December 17, 2012 1:05 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    Iowahawk is The Lord Of The Tweets.


  20. yenta-fada
    20 | December 17, 2012 1:20 am

    Bunk X wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Popular media has no soul anymore — it’s just noise to me. There are a few exceptions, but I gave up TV long ago. Movies in the theaters? Nah. Too crowded, too expensive and too loud. Ditto music concerts, and as for the latter, too little talent for my taste.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moiv9UBlND8

    I remember almost every word of that song! Rhyming is an aid to memory. Cripes, I know the intros to the songs in old musicals. No wonder I’m tired. I’m freakin’ OLD.


  21. yenta-fada
    21 | December 17, 2012 1:25 am

    @ yenta-fada:

    Maybe not THIS old, but old.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwNQf08Kxsw&feature=player_embedded


  22. 22 | December 17, 2012 1:30 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    That’s what gripes me about Pop Music, and Country Pop in particular. Songwriters used to knew how to rhyme.
    It ain’t that tough;
    I heard enough.


  23. darkwords
    23 | December 17, 2012 4:09 am

    @ 4 Bunk X: lol too funny and a an outer space view.


  24. heysoos
    24 | December 17, 2012 4:52 am

    Zimriel wrote:

    Christopher Lee alone might make this worth watching. Tolkien spun in his grave when FotR and TTT came out, that he didn’t make Saruman the main villain. (So I suspect.)
    Although I’m worried about the movie’s bloat. The Hobbit is not Lord of the Rings; it needs to be two movies or a TV series, and not a movie trilogy.

    I agree…there is just not enough to the Hobbit to make three movies…as for other stuff there is a ton of movies wrapped up in the Silmarillion…the Last Alliance Between Men and Elves would make a heck of a movie or two


  25. 25 | December 17, 2012 6:05 am

    I suppose I’ll see it eventually, when it hits DVD, but that’s it. I’m not looking forward to it. I see they made a movie out “Ender’s Game” as well. Not hopeful about that, either. Movies made from books one has read and liked are virtually always a dissappointment. “The Hunt for Red October” would have been a great movie – if one hadn’t already read the book. And the less said about LOTR, the better.

    Elvish archers at Helm’s Deep… Grumble, grumble, grumble….


  26. rain of lead
    26 | December 17, 2012 7:50 am

    mornin ya’ll


  27. 27 | December 17, 2012 7:52 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Morning to you and Momcat!


  28. 28 | December 17, 2012 7:56 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Elvish archers at Helm’s Deep… Grumble, grumble, grumble….

    That really wasn’t that big a deal. The reinforcements Aragorn got for Helm’s Deep were Dunadan in the books, but the reasons for that were somewhat complex. To have had that exactly the same in the mvie would have been difficult to convey. The Elvish Archers provided the reinforcements, and gave a bit of the exotic to it. I was more disappointed in the Ents, mysel. And I was not sorry to see Tom Bombadil eliminated entirely. I never liked that interlude.


  29. 29 | December 17, 2012 8:01 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    And I was not sorry to see Tom Bombadil eliminated entirely. I never liked that interlude.

    Peter Jackson rushed things in TFotR. In the book it was years between Bibo’s party and Frodo leaving for Rivendell. In the movies it was at most months. The whole journey from Bag End to Rivendell in the book was about a week, in the movie it was days. As well the whole Tom Bombadill interlude was the means of them getting the daggers from the Barrow Mound and the wight. One of the daggers was responsible for defeating the Witch King in the third book. Something that was side stepped by Jackson. There were certain things I didn’t like about the movies, overall it probably was the best interpretation we are going to get out of them


  30. 30 | December 17, 2012 8:16 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Yeah, nothing was going to be perfect. I am a huge fan of the Lord of the Rings. I’ve read the books at least 20 times. I thought Peter Jackson did an excellent job of translating them into film. There were things that were left out. Film is not suited for subtlty, really, especially things like the dagger that killed the Witch King being from the barrow downs and all of the related things that went with it. The movies would have wound up being four hours long, and people would have gotten bogged down in the details. I saw the Hobbit Saturday, and I thought that again a credible job had been done of translating the book to film. This one will be one book in three films, so there should be time for more of the subtlties. So far they don’t look to have left anything major out, though they have dadded a bit to the plot that wasn’t there. The middle portion will be interesting to see, because that is the slower part of the book. Getting through Mirkwood and to the Lonely MOuntain isn’t as exciting as fighting Smaug will be.


  31. 31 | December 17, 2012 3:50 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    Christopher Lee alone might make this worth watching. Tolkien spun in his grave when FotR and TTT came out, that he didn’t make Saruman the main villain. (So I suspect.)

    Although I’m worried about the movie’s bloat. The Hobbit is not Lord of the Rings; it needs to be two movies or a TV series, and not a movie trilogy.

    Saruman wasN’t the main villain so Jackson rightly didn’t portray him as such in LOTR.

    The Hobbit is most definitely not bloated. There is plenty of material in The Appendices and The History of Middle Earth (HOME) fill in the backstory which is exactly what Jackson has done. If you haven’t read The Appendices and HOME and the only authorized biography of JRR Tolkien, I highly recommend that you do so.


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