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About Those Spontaneous Grass Roots Demonstrations.

by Flyovercountry ( 37 Comments › )
Filed under Liberal Fascism, Politics, Unions at December 17th, 2012 - 11:30 am

Political Cartoons by Henry Payne

I am not one who usually subscribes to conspiracy theories, but sometimes even the most bizarre ramblings of my mind to explain seemingly surreal events turn out to be true. The recent bevy of Traveling Union Thug Theater in state capitols around the Rust Belt certainly fits that narrative. For years, we on the right have seen these demonstrations, rejected the premise that it was some sort of spontaneous grass roots movement by a population who felt oppressed by the rapacious heels of jack booted corporatists, spoke our minds about our belief that it was in fact a well organized, “astro turf,” movement set into motion by the slickest elements of the professional agitation groups, meaning ACORN, SEIU,AFSCME, AFLCIO, etc. We were immediately labeled as crazy, loons, conspiracy nuts, and worse yet, paid corporate lap dogs trying to defect the nefarious activities of our greedy masters residing in the lap of luxury, firmly seated at their place among the evil 1%.

A funny thing happened on the way to that narrative in the aftermath of the shenanigans in Madison Wisconsin. There is at least one man who was paid to travel from his home in Florida to a Marriott in the Madison area, and agitate some of those demonstrations there. Clarence Haynes, the man at the center of this allegation, was paid in excess of $147,000 dollars, plus his biweekly take home pay of $1900, for services rendered in the Wisconsin State Capitol. The current fugitive from justice, received a W-2 from the SEIU, who’s name appears on the bank drafts which funded his personal checking account, that reported zero in earnings to the IRS. The transactions were all managed by ADP, those Obama friendly payroll people, who report their opinions on our current employment situation ahead of the Labor Department just when our President needs a helpful boost in his poll numbers. Among his other unofficial duties, actually casting a ballot in the Wisconsin Supreme Court election seems to have taken up at least a few minutes of his time.

That particular activity is a problem, since Haynes was never a resident of Wisconsin, nor allowed to vote in that state legally. His participation in that particular election begs several other questions as well. For instance, did that particular crime end with Mr. Haynes? He was after all, not just some two bit thug who happened to be in Wisconsin for the protests, nor was he some low level agitator, barely registering on the SEIU food chain. He was a man that the SEIU felt was worth more than 150 grand of their resources, to be in Wisconsin, doing what ever community organizers do in order to earn their keep. Even in the world of Chicago style pay for play, that has to be thought of as a considerable amount of scratch. How many other fraudulent votes did Haynes deliver for, and let’s be realistic, his organization was out there stumping for, Joanne Kloppenburg? How many such people did the SEIU dispatch to Wisconsin? Was Wisconsin unique, or were the thugs also present in Ohio, Indiana, and other states as well? Are those same fine class of professional agitators present in Michigan today?

Recently, we’ve had a Presidential election where in several key states, Barack won narrowly while receiving 100% of the vote in more than a few precincts, something that is statistically impossible. 427,000 strategically placed votes throughout the middle west and Florida are what determined this past election, and I am not crazy for believing that this was well within the capability of the professional cheaters to accomplish, were they inclined to do so. Victory outside of the margin of cheating appears no where in our Constitution, and yet, it never ceases to amaze me how any credible instance of actual cheating being proven to have happened always seems to have favored the Democrat Candidate.

If the SEIU would take the risks involved with cheating for an election in which Wisconsin chooses a Supreme Court Justice, I believe they’d have no problems with the decision to pull similar shenanigans for President of the United State. On the first Tuesday in November, we should all be sporting those inconspicuous purple dyed fingers, the ones Iraqi’s figured out how to employ in order to prevent fraud at the ballot box, and use photo ID’s, in order to keep non citizens from participating in elections in which they have no business. Looking at this election, and listening to the same old suspects talk about why we lost this time, and how it is all a sign that we need to moderate, and forget about the realities of right and wrong, it angers me to no end. What angers me more is the very real possibility that Mitt Romney may have actually won the election, and might not have lost it at all.

Don’t get me wrong, these clowns who now run our Executive Branch should never have been close in the first place, and that in itself speaks to terrible problems from K through 12, but at the same time, moderating on issues that are as basic as free markets versus whole sale Socialism would be worse. Where ever Clarence Haynes may be, I hope the authorities find him soon and alive. Threaten him with a life time of hospitality at the worst hell hole in Wisconsin, and let’s hear what the man has to say. It is time to put an end to the Chicago way of doing things in America. The SEIU is a great place to start.

Oct 19 SEIU Voter Fraud Subpoena

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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37 Responses to “About Those Spontaneous Grass Roots Demonstrations.”
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  1. lobo91
    1 | December 17, 2012 12:05 pm

    Just wait until the anti-gun crowd gets its Astroturf factory going…


  2. 2 | December 17, 2012 12:18 pm

    As I have been saying, those who oppose Voter ID are for voter fraud. There i sno legitimate reason to oppose voter ID. Indeed, if those screaming most harshly about it were really concerned about the sanctity of the ballot box, they would be demanding it. That they are for voter fraud is manifest. That they have Comitted voter fraud is another question. I know that the Democrats believe that they benefit from fraudulent votes. I think it is pretty obvious in hindsight that Kennedy stole his election from Nixon, as well. But the days when you could steal the election in Chicago and Texas are gone. Illinois will always vote Democrat, of course, but they aren’t a swing state anymore, and the fate of the Union doesn’t depend on them. And Texas is as reliably Republican. If Texas had swung Democrat this time, I’d have considered it prima fascia evidence of voter fraud. I think that this election is better understood as the takers taking from the public trough, though, than simple voter fraud. That is really a more depressing verdict. Voter fraud can be combatted. Voter ID can become the law of most States without the Department of Just-Us having to sign off on it. Voters who see the ballot box as an oppertunity to take from those that produce, OTOH, cannot be so easily combatted. Their ballot counts as much as yours or mine. Stopping them requires changing public attitudes. One start would for it ot again be shaming to be seen to be on the dole.


  3. RIX
    3 | December 17, 2012 12:23 pm

    The unions have pretty much declared war on the
    non union Middle Class.
    They justify their threats of violence and actual violence
    as necessary to protect oppressed workers, meaning
    only them.


  4. RIX
    4 | December 17, 2012 12:34 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    As I have been saying, those who oppose Voter ID are for voter fraud. There i sno legitimate reason to oppose voter ID. Indeed, if those screaming most harshly about it were really concerned about the sanctity of the ballot box, they would be demanding it

    .

    Makes you wonder why ID is necessary at Obama events.


  5. 5 | December 17, 2012 1:10 pm

    @ RIX:

    I fthey can require a picture ID to buy a gun, then they can require a picture ID to vote. If they want to talk about racism, well the firstgun control laws in the United States were to disarm freed slaves after the Civil War. Racism and gun control are deeply entwined. Funny how the NAACP doesn’t care about that kind of racism.


  6. taxfreekiller
    6 | December 17, 2012 1:30 pm

    It will not be long before these “Commie Democrat Party Union/Killer Thugs” show up in our towns and cities in a “Property of the United States of America” armed and armorded train or fleet of same type of buses to “restore order” due to the “local unlawful citizens”.

    B. Obama will have his private bullet proof bus and train to give his sermons from behind 6″ glass.

    Keep it simple, Liberty or Tyranny.


  7. 7 | December 17, 2012 1:42 pm

    My first experience with union violence was more third hand. Back in 87 I got a job with Pinkertons here in Canada as a security guard. About a month or so after I started working with them my dad called me up and gave me a stern warning. He was with the Letter Carriers union back then and negotiations weren’t going so well. He told me that Pinkertons had the strike security contract. Not only that, but the strike was going to be a bad one with violence in the forecast. This was two weeks before the strike vote.

    Lucky me, I didn’t have to work any of the strike locations, and it was a bad one. I heard a few stories from other of my friends that worked it. One female security guard was caught outside the property perimeter and had a beating laid on her by a bunch of union thugs. Property damage was rife. Years later I talked to another person that was involved with security in the Greater Toronto Area and they had to deal with bomb threats, B&E, and all sorts of vandalism during that strike.

    Bright side is that the CUPW learned something from that strike. A little to late of course. They no longer have the sympathy of the public when they go out on strike. In fact there has only been one strike since that time and several “rolling” strikes.


  8. RIX
    8 | December 17, 2012 1:52 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    The objections to voter ID are because it makes fraud tougher.


  9. yenta-fada
    9 | December 17, 2012 1:56 pm

    Obama re-election REAL HEROES. The people and the methods that were legal.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-obama-campaigns-real-heroes-20121126?link=mostpopular3


  10. yenta-fada
    10 | December 17, 2012 2:00 pm

    As far as I understand it, the Alinsky method is all about getting down to each individual voter, then creating smaller to larger numbers of groups who will pressure governments at all levels. So, it’s about getting money from the taxpayers ONE committed individual at a time. Using the individual to form the ‘collective’. The source of the money/CHANGE is always about somebody else providing the funds.


  11. yenta-fada
    11 | December 17, 2012 2:03 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    The Postal Workers Union directly at least partially funded the last Gaza flotilla. The agitation/propaganda efforts that are anti-Israel never stop from this “union”. They should be jailed for misuse of union dues.


  12. yenta-fada
    12 | December 17, 2012 2:14 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:

    I fthey can require a picture ID to buy a gun, then they can require a picture ID to vote. If they want to talk about racism, well the firstgun control laws in the United States were to disarm freed slaves after the Civil War. Racism and gun control are deeply entwined. Funny how the NAACP doesn’t care about that kind of racism.

    There is no black racism. /


  13. yenta-fada
    13 | December 17, 2012 2:16 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Always in the Brit newspapers. Jamie Foxx; Everything I do is about race.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2248211/Django-Unchained-star-Jamie-Foxx-explains-sensitive-African-American.html


  14. RIX
    14 | December 17, 2012 2:18 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Bright side is that the CUPW learned something from that strike. A little to late of course. They no longer have the sympathy of the public when they go out on strike. In fact there has only been one strike since that time and several “rolling” strikes.

    The Unions are causing themselves a PR problem.
    But from their perspective, they do have a lot of
    support and they have a friend in the White House.
    The Government now is blocking non union vendors
    from gaining contracts.


  15. 15 | December 17, 2012 2:21 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    I know. Quite a few unions are involved in the whole BDS initiative as well. I can’t wait till that federal bill becomes law that requires the unions to publicly open their books. I am willing to bet that there will be a lot of screaming from a lot of union members when they find out where their dues are going.


  16. darkwords
    16 | December 17, 2012 2:30 pm

    @ 13 yenta-fada: a lot of black people are very hard core racists but don’t seem to know it.


  17. heysoos
    17 | December 17, 2012 2:34 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 13 yenta-fada: a lot of black people are very hard core racists but don’t seem to know it.

    Eric Holder is a perfect example…he hates brown people, so much he plots to kill them with illegal weapons


  18. yenta-fada
    18 | December 17, 2012 2:34 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I know. Quite a few unions are involved in the whole BDS initiative as well. I can’t wait till that federal bill becomes law that requires the unions to publicly open their books. I am willing to bet that there will be a lot of screaming from a lot of union members when they find out where their dues are going.

    I certainly hope it passes. Starve these massive public sector unions.


  19. yenta-fada
    19 | December 17, 2012 2:36 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 13 yenta-fada: a lot of black people are very hard core racists but don’t seem to know it.

    There is no room for black racism in Political Correctness. There’s no room for massive Muslim racism either. The whole ‘religion’ is based on Muslim Supremacism. *crickets*


  20. yenta-fada
    20 | December 17, 2012 2:39 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 13 yenta-fada: a lot of black people are very hard core racists but don’t seem to know it.

    Eric Holder is a perfect example…he hates brown people, so much he plots to kill them with illegal weapons

    Even more, he plans on NO legal weapons except for HIS people. aka government affirmative action hires and a massive military run out of the United Nations.


  21. yenta-fada
    21 | December 17, 2012 2:42 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I know. Quite a few unions are involved in the whole BDS initiative as well. I can’t wait till that federal bill becomes law that requires the unions to publicly open their books. I am willing to bet that there will be a lot of screaming from a lot of union members when they find out where their dues are going.

    I wonder if there will be any complaints from the Unions. There will be a lot of people who are afraid to speak up because Jew hatred is not a problem for much of the left. Jews aren’t even on the list of ‘the protected identity group’ pyramid.


  22. yenta-fada
    22 | December 17, 2012 2:44 pm

    I’m sort of talking to myself with a couple of notable exceptions. This isn’t good because I’m GRUMPY today.


  23. darkwords
    23 | December 17, 2012 2:44 pm

    The Obama voters the taxpayers support. Judge Judy…. Votes bought and paid for Obama by the taxpayers.


  24. lobo91
    24 | December 17, 2012 2:45 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’m here. Been busy taking care of this month’s free course drawing.


  25. darkwords
    25 | December 17, 2012 2:46 pm

    @ 20 yenta-fada: Eric Holder: A clear and present danger


  26. taxfreekiller
    26 | December 17, 2012 2:50 pm

    yenta-fada,

    So, on hyper inflation:

    Any chance that current Iowa farm land prices of $10,000.00 per acre on say a 1,000 ac. farm are indications of a comming huge spike in inflation.

    The price/earnings raito seems way out of balance to some.


  27. yenta-fada
    27 | December 17, 2012 2:52 pm

    White House Dossier:

    Oh no. Not the vacation!

    The battle over the fiscal cliff appears to have already delayed the start of President Obama’s annual Hawaii vacation, which was set to begin as early as today.

    According to the Hawaii Reporter, officials had informed residents of Oahu that the usual Obama vacation-related restrictions on their travel would go into effect today and last until January 6. The White House has not announced specific vacation plans, though the restrictions are a good indicator of when they were planning to be in Hawaii.

    The White House says Obama will be in Washington until at least Thursday – though it lists no specific events – so his vacation is unlikely to begin before then.

    But given the current pace of fiscal cliff negotiations, it’s unlikely a deal will be reached until just before Christmas at the earliest. If Obama stays around until then, he may be faced with a vacation of less than two weeks instead of the three he appeared to hope for.

    What is unclear is whether Michelle, at a huge cost to taxpayers, will decide as she has in the past to jet out to Hawaii separately from the president in order to fully realize her vacation plans.

    The Obamas skipped their annual August pilgrimage to ritzy Martha’s Vineyard, which would have been bad politics for a president conducting a populist campaign whose centerpiece was raising taxes on the rich.


  28. lobo91
    28 | December 17, 2012 2:58 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The Obamas skipped their annual August pilgrimage to ritzy Martha’s Vineyard, which would have been bad politics for a president conducting a populist campaign whose centerpiece was raising taxes on the rich.

    And 3 weeks in Hawaii is much better…
    //


  29. yenta-fada
    29 | December 17, 2012 3:01 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    yenta-fada,

    So, on hyper inflation:

    Any chance that current Iowa farm land prices of $10,000.00 per acre on say a 1,000 ac. farm are indications of a comming huge spike in inflation.

    The price/earnings raito seems way out of balance to some.

    I’m no real estate expert, however I do know that hedge funds and other big money people are buying up rural land as a hard asset diversification. Those could be both domestic and foreign hedge funds because, with the decay in the dollar and the fall in real estate prices, some other currencies have an advantage. With the FED continuing to use printed money to prop up the banking system by buying their toxic mortagage assets, this delays some hyperinflation, I think. The rest of the printed money is just buying U.S. treasuries, yet the quality of U.S. sovereign debt continues to fall because you can’t pay down debt with debt.

    Russians are buying up luxury property in Miami because they can buy personal and home security with private guards and the weather is good. The government wants to own rural land as well and CRUSH small farms through the EPA and the imposition of death and other taxes on family farms. He who controls the food, controls the people.


  30. lobo91
    30 | December 17, 2012 3:16 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The rest of the printed money is just buying U.S. treasuries, yet the quality of U.S. sovereign debt continues to fall because you can’t pay down debt with debt.

    Just because it’s never worked before doesn’t mean you can’t do it.

    It’s just never been done by the right people before.
    //


  31. yenta-fada
    31 | December 17, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Here’s a short version from a career banker/investor, John Embry:

    Embry added: “I’m a very much dyed-in-the-wool Austrian economist and I believe we have reached the stage in this economic cycle, which is really just an extended credit cycle, that we can’t grow. As you get deeper into a credit cycle you need more and more credit creation to get the same dollar of real GDP growth. We already have far too much debt and we can’t possibly deal with the debt we already have.

    So the idea we can start growing again is a lie. The fact is what we are seeing is weak growth everywhere, but the prediction for next year is always better. I am of the belief that next year will be more of the same and they will start revising their estimates lower next year.

    To keep the whole thing going they will have to print more and more money, and eventually we are going to see the negative side of money printing. So far, because money velocity has declined, you haven’t really seen bad inflation. But that’s coming because there is no alternative but to keep printing to keep the system afloat.


  32. bluliner10
    32 | December 17, 2012 3:33 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Inflation? Already here, remember we don’t count food and oil as they are too “dynamic” to be effective indicators of inflation. I think the average human can tell you the price of gas and hamburger has doubled in 4 years.


  33. lobo91
    33 | December 17, 2012 3:33 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    To keep the whole thing going they will have to print more and more money, and eventually we are going to see the negative side of money printing.

    Sure, they had problems in Weimar Germany when people had to use a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread, but we’re much more advanced today.

    Since most of the money is just electronic fund transfers, people won’t need those wheelbarrows when it happens here.
    //


  34. 34 | December 17, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I had a meeting. The nerve of these people. They expect me to work fo rmy pay!

    [/Democrat]


  35. lobo91
    35 | December 17, 2012 3:43 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    File an EO complaint.


  36. Mars
    36 | December 17, 2012 4:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    darkwords wrote:
    @ 13 yenta-fada: a lot of black people are very hard core racists but don’t seem to know it.

    Eric Holder is a perfect example…he hates brown people, so much he plots to kill them with illegal weapons

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/12/17/exposed-eric-holders-days-as-a-radical-militant/

    Holders past finally emerges. He hates any brown people that don’t accept his separatist world view.


  37. 37 | December 17, 2012 6:31 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    As I have been saying, those who oppose Voter ID are for voter fraud. There i sno legitimate reason to oppose voter ID. Indeed, if those screaming most harshly about it were really concerned about the sanctity of the ballot box, they would be demanding it. That they are for voter fraud is manifest. That they have Comitted voter fraud is another question. I know that the Democrats believe that they benefit from fraudulent votes. I think it is pretty obvious in hindsight that Kennedy stole his election from Nixon, as well. But the days when you could steal the election in Chicago and Texas are gone. Illinois will always vote Democrat, of course, but they aren’t a swing state anymore, and the fate of the Union doesn’t depend on them. And Texas is as reliably Republican. If Texas had swung Democrat this time, I’d have considered it prima fascia evidence of voter fraud. I think that this election is better understood as the takers taking from the public trough, though, than simple voter fraud. That is really a more depressing verdict. Voter fraud can be combatted. Voter ID can become the law of most States without the Department of Just-Us having to sign off on it. Voters who see the ballot box as an oppertunity to take from those that produce, OTOH, cannot be so easily combatted. Their ballot counts as much as yours or mine. Stopping them requires changing public attitudes. One start would for it ot again be shaming to be seen to be on the dole.

    You’re right up to a point. But these days, it’s a lot easier to hijack elections than it used to be. The Dems could hack elections in any or all of the 50 states if they wanted to, and nobody has the political will to stop them.

    Programmer testifies before Ohio state legislature about rigging elections with vote counting machines


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