
Tip o’ the tarboosh to Calo & Suki for sending another great reason to smile on The Overnight Open Thread.

Tip o’ the tarboosh to Calo & Suki for sending another great reason to smile on The Overnight Open Thread.
Comments and respectful debate are both welcome and encouraged.
Comments are the sole opinion of the comment writer, just as each thread posted is the sole opinion or post idea of the administrator that posted it or of the readers that have written guest posts for the Blogmocracy.
Obscene, abusive, or annoying remarks may be deleted or moved to spam for admin review, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their content by any other commenter or the admins of this Blogmocracy.
We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
website design was Built By David
Self > Family > Community > Govt/Church. The order in which to look for help and responsibility. Too much Self < Govt.
Now…make that kid eat those snot-laden candy canes!
darkwords wrote:
Yup agreed.
@ Macker:
Those aren’t candy canes.
That’s what an outdoors nose bleed looks like in S. Dakota this time of year.
darkwords wrote:
ever so slight quibble…
Self > Family > Community > Church > Government
govt should, imo, be the last resort
ahhh…friday night for me. howz about some tunes!
the opening sounds like iggy and the stooges lust for life
unclassifiable wrote:
or norway in december.
*cold*
more jet
gettin some mc5 outta this
iggy
neon trees
straight from iceland to yinz!
its really a wonderful song
done live:
follow up to my question from last night re gun control.
What mental illnesses should disqualify someone from owning a gun?
Should any guns be off limits to the general population, and if so, which ones? Sure, the ‘it’s got that scary looking thing around the barrel, so we should ban it’ statement is typical idiocy from a lib, as is the ‘the Glock is an assault weapon’ comment. But are there full auto weapons that are available to the public?
mfhorn wrote:
and who makes the diagnosis?
of monsters and men live.
do check them out
mfhorn wrote:
To this specific question. No. Full stop.
/galt
just a little more of monsters and men
CynicalConservative wrote:
the care and feeding of a ma deuce or a 60 is quite high
nothreat’s favorite song.
@ CynicalConservative:
See, that’s an area I can at least understand the concern. I don’t know that I’m comfortable with (as an extreme example) a mini gun in most people’s hands. And yeah, I’d love to shoot one myself, at the Knob Creek shoot!
At the same time, I know that if we ban those, it’s just the first step towards banning something else, then something else, and before long, .45′s, .44′s, .38′s, and 9mm are on the chopping block. It’s the liberal way- we’ve seen that time & time again.
@ coldwarrior:
Yep, it is. Not a reason to be banned though.
New toy today, break it in tomorrow. SR1911, been waiting 8 months for it.
/galt
@ mfhorn:
Exactly, the camel’s nose under the tent. Incrementalism will be the death of everything.
/galt
CynicalConservative wrote:
carried the venerable 1911 for a good few years in the army. a fine pistol.
@ coldwarrior:
I really wish I got to know her better. We just barely started taking about garden and canning on and offline and everything happened. Still sad.
/galt
@ coldwarrior:
Such a shame that I already lost it in a boating accident (tomorrow afternoon that is).
/galt
@ mfhorn:
the a-10′s vulcan comes to mind.
CynicalConservative wrote:
as i explained to mike c i lost all of my guns in the blizzard / freak volcano of 1993. the lahar took out my collection and sent it to the bottom of the ohio river.
it was epic.
@ coldwarrior:
The Avenger? Heh- that’s a ball to watch ‘em open up with that one! I was at a target range in Wisconsin in ’84 or maybe early ’85 and a few A-10′s came in. Wow!
mfhorn wrote:
The 4473 already addresses mental issues. Question 11f.
Yes, full-auto is available but are more strictly regulated than semi-auto.
CynicalConservative wrote:
we lost a good one there.
i got all the mumford and sons for her and a t shirt for a present about 4 months before she died.
mfhorn wrote:
the a-10 is the culmination of killing technology.
precise, fast, effortless.
this vid is terrific
any country fan should love the above vids. these guys are fantastic
this is a link to mumford and son’s glastonbury 2011 show.
me and mrs coldwarrior love these guys
@ Brick:
The main thing preventing most people from owning full auto weapons is the cost, not the bureaucratic hoops you have to jump through. As long as you live in a state that allows them (not all do), it’s mainly a matter of filling out some forms and paying a tax.
The problem is that no full auto weapons have been manufactured or imported into the US for civilian sale in about 20 years. What’s already in circulation can be sold, but that’s it. There’s a finite supply, so the prices are outrageous.
The government pays about $1000 for an M-4 from Colt. A civilian-legal full auto M-16 will cost you about as much as a pretty nice car.
@ lobo91:
i WILL own a thompson one day.
lobo91 wrote:
Don’t forget insurance, and incorporation, or trust set-up if you’re in an area where local law enforcement won’t sign off on your transfer docs.
coldwarrior wrote:
You’ve been watching Machine Gun Blues again, haven’t you?
Brick wrote:
ha!
nope.
there are 2 things i want for my retirement
this is one
the thompson is the other
coldwarrior wrote:
Buy Now
::click::
$35,999.00
uhm…no.
@ coldwarrior:
Here you go
@ Brick:
i’ll take the telescope and just use an AK and pretend its a thompson.
A nice M-16A1
lobo91 wrote:
unfired!!!!
wow
museum piece there.
i would feel terrible to put a round through that.
lobo91 wrote:
not worth 25k to spray 556 all over the joint
coldwarrior wrote:
I’d take the AK and pretend an empty paper towel roll is a telescope.
MAC-11 bargain
Personally, I think if I were going to spend that kind of money, I’d get this
Brick wrote:
i have 10″ and 16″ newtonians, we built a slick dobsonian mount for the 16 and the 10 is on an equatorial mount. there will be a research grade scope for my retirement.
lobo91 wrote:
i cant see owning an auto…i can see owning a very nice 300mag with a good scope tho.
Brick wrote:
the 16″
Criminy, it’s late. Off to bed now. Have to make big piles of paper small, and the small piles big in the morning.
Good night everyone, and keep the faith!
@ Brick:
Night
coldwarrior wrote:
Me neither. I can’t afford the ammo, much less $44,000 to buy a gun.
I’m surprised that those M-11s are so cheap, though. I guess people have figured out that it’s a POS. About as useful as the old M-3A1 grease gun.
lobo91 wrote:
never had the opportunity to mess with one of those.
it was ma deuce or 60 on my side for auto.
@ coldwarrior:
The M-3 was an absolute POS. Stamped steel, only fired on full auto, no sights to speak of, horrendous muzzle climb.
Probably more effective as a club.
mfhorn wrote:
There is no law on Earth or in Heaven that will stop the random act of a Madmen. All that can be done is to cleanup the mess afterward.
A rock is an “assault weapon” in the hands of a Navy SEAL. Shall we outlaw the Earth to make some people feel safer??
The best prevention is deterrence and when that fails swift and certain punishment.
Best thing we can do right now is to outlaw all helpless victim zones.
lobo91 wrote:
they look great in movies tho
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
ever mess with a classic david v goliath slingshot?
nasty.
coldwarrior wrote:
We actually still had a couple of them in my battalion during Desert Storm. The only .45 caliber weapons in the entire battalion, since the pistols had already been changed out for M-9s.
It looked pretty strange on the ammo board in S-4. There were all these different listings of ammo with quantites in the tens of thousands and then like 200 rounds of .45ACP.
@ coldwarrior:
I’m pretty good with a ‘Wrist Rocket’ and a pocket full of marbles.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
the ultimate weapon.
@ coldwarrior:
Iggy was one of a kind, that’s for sure.
Zimriel wrote:
i loves me some iggy.
its lost on some folks tho
lobo91 wrote:
gimme my 1911.
IF will kill me
ATF, charged with regulating guns, lacks resources and leadership
The only time I looked at a MAC-10 was at a gun show in OKC in 84. NiB (with silencer) $ 400. Looked like it was stamped out of beer cans. My local range rents a number of full-auto weapons, and I have tried a couple of them, but I wasn’t all that thrilled, frankly. Given the price of legal ones these days, it’s a huge waste of money for anybody anywhere near my income level. Another factor is that my local range is on the other side of the VA-WV line from me, which would mean that I would have to notify the BATFE in writing every time I wanted to take on to the range. Putting one’s self on the official BATFE list of top gun nuts to round up first doesn’t strike me as a good idea. My semi-auto rifle and pistols are fully capable of putting out rounds far quicker than I can get them to land on target. Hell, even the Marlin lever gun is capable of that. Better (and cheaper!) if I spend my time and money practicing putting the rounds where they belong.
Neatest daydream weapon I’ve seen recently is that brass replica Navy Bullpup Gatling gun Colt apparently produced in extremely limited numbers this past year. Not a Class III weapon according to the BATFE. Chambered for the .45/70. Mega-cool, but rumorored to be priced at about $ 60 K/copy. Now if somebody would make a rationally priced version of something like that in 5.56 or even .22 LR, it might be pretty cool to have one just for fun, but so far, I haven’t seen one. For a daydream weapon a normal person might actually own, I’d fancy a good repro 1885 Highwall Sharps in .45/70 with a barrel in the 30-34″ range and the tang sights. My BiL has a safe full of such things -- Sharps, Ballards, Hepburns -- original and new. Extremely cool. But then, I’m a sucker for old-fashioned stuff. That’s why there’s two lever guns and an SA revolver in the house.
TGoP (my wife) is of the opinion that there would be a lot less violence if everybody had a big, friendly cat.
It’s a better idea than any I’ve heard out of any liberal politician or talking head recently… (he syas as the cat is bothering him for attention…)
Oh boy. It morphed into a gun thread (all be it slow running). Hooray (I mean that — no sarcasm).
I have a big kitty but still want this.
@ unclassifiable:
And it’s not an assault weapon. It’s a friggin’ mechanical engineering work of art and just as much an artistic expression as Django Unchained.
So there. THHHHHHHHHHHFFFFFT!
Mia Love was just on Fox. Wow, she’s an impressive young lady and she gets more impressive every time I see her!
@ Mike C.:
I’ve seen that bullpup gatling. I want one! IIRC, retail was about $45K at the time, but they were going to be a limited run, so I could see them going for $60K now. Nice, nice weapon. They are the kind of gun the gun controllers will never go after, because they are essentially toys for the rich. What the gun controllers want are disarmed plebians. They don’t care if the patricians (especially if they are well-connected patricians) are armed. That way they can calaim that they support the Second Amendment and still disarm all the untermenchen rabble. These people aren’t well-meaning fools. They are evil. They’ll leave you vulnerable to criminals, but that is just a side matter. They mainly want to be sure that you can’t resist them when they com eto take everything you have.
@ Guggi:
The BATF is one of the pieces of the bureaucracy I would love to see eliminated. Not only do they perform no useful functions for the most part (you could move the explosives division under the FBI, for example), they have too much blood on their hands and too authoritarian a business culture to becompatible with a free nation. Get rid of them. They are an anacronism forom the days of Prohibition, as is the NFA that they enforce.
Assault Rifles vs Rifles explained
(For know nothing like me
)
Good morning. This is a drive-by as I’ve been up most of the night w/the beagle.
We had a bit of a circus here the other nite. 3 am. Sound asleep. Beagle went off like a rocket. Grabbed the weapons. Emergency lights everywhere.
Turned out it was emergency medical people at our across-the-yard neighbor’s place. We knew she was ill. She/we thought it was just a cold. We had checked on her every day -- but she just crashed.
My point. She had installed an emergency alert system. When she realized how ill she really was she pressed her ‘panic’ button.
Not a bad idea. Hubby told me to install the same thing so I did (he travels quite a bit so Molly and I are alone some times).
Just a thought.
@ Guggi:
Currently we are spending more than a trillion dollars a year more than we take in. If they raised taxes to cover that, they’d collapse the economy. Obviously there have to be cuts. I don’t see how cutting back to 2006 levels could possibly hurt anybody. We got along just fine with that level of government spending. Even that is too much, but there is no way to get the American peopl eto go along with the kind of cuts that we really need. That is one of the things that makes economic collapse almost inevitable. We need draconian cuts in entitlements, and no one wants them. We’ll still get them when the government goes bankrupt, though. Along wiht hyper-inflation and a crashing living standard.
Guggi wrote:
As the saying goes “everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die“.
Iron Fist wrote:
They want gain withoput pain. That simple.
@ MacDuff:
This is going to end up in the Supreme Court.
The GOP should ignore the polls. They will not get a fair shake in the media so it should not matter.
The quandary is that the automatic cuts may not be legally sustainable but Congress’ power to retain the current debt limit will be legally sustainable unless “boner” and the House majority give it away.
What would be nice is if the speaker would sue those administration to produce a budget. Not much hope there either.
Another round of conservative cannibalization seems to be in store for the future. Maybe in the long run there will be benefit from this.
@ Guggi:
Yes, and that is simply impossible. There will be pain. By postponing it, they are only making it worse. If we really tried to get a handle on spending now and made reasonable cuts (we could get rid of the BATF as a starting point), we could stave off the economic collapse that is facing us about ten years down the road. Nobody has the guts to come out and actually say that. The Democrats obfuscate, because they want the crash, and the Republicans are cowards.
MacDuff wrote:
There is a German proverb: Wasch mir den Pelz aber mach mich nicht nass.
St. Louis police Chief calls for arming school personell. It really is the only answer. “Gun free zones” equal disarmed victims. Simply allowing teachers with concealed weapons permits to carry on the job could change that equation. If it saves one life, it is worth it.