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Ohio imam gets just one year for $3.8M food stamp fraud: Where did the money really go?

by 1389AD ( 113 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Jihad at December 18th, 2012 - 8:00 am
Imam Al-Idu Al-Gaheem, f/k/a Lawrence Phillips, at Riverview Cellular
Imam Al-Idu Al-Gaheem, f/k/a Lawrence Phillips

Dayton Daily News: Man sentenced in $3.8M food stamp fraud case

(h/t: yenta-fada, IOTW, and Creeping Sharia)

By Cornelius Frolik

A federal judge on Thursday sentenced Al-Idu Al-Gaheem to one year and one day in prison for his role in a scheme that bilked $3.8 million from the federal food stamp program.

Al-Gaheem, the former owner of two Dayton View businesses and the imam of Masjid At-Taqwa mosque, was the second of four defendants to be sentenced in the case. All four defendants have pleaded guilty.

Al-Gaheem faced as many as four years in prison after he pleaded guilty in August to felony charges of conspiracy to commit money laundering and conspiracy to commit wire fraud, food stamp trafficking and structuring transactions to avoid reporting requirements.

Al-Gaheem, who previously was named Lawrence Phillips, was the owner of Five Pillars Market, 1263 W. Riverview Ave., and Riverview Cell & Cup of Dreams, 512 N. Broadway St.

Imam Al-Gaheem seems to be a US-born convert. The story does not say whether or not he had a previous criminal record.

Al-Gaheem worked and conspired with Abdul Yamini Sr., Abdul Qadir and Omar Yahya to defraud the food-assistance program. The men illegally paid customers 50 cents in cash for every $1 in food stamp benefits they redeemed.

Undercover law enforcement agents caught the defendants illegally trading cash for food stamp benefits and buying and selling products that are ineligible through the program, such as counterfeit clothing and firearms.

Authorities estimate that more than 1,000 transactions took place at Five Pillars Market that involved the illegal exchange of food benefits. The federal government deposited about $3.8 million into bank accounts controlled by Al-Gaheem and others as reimbursement for food benefits redeemed at Five Pillars.

Al-Gaheem repeatedly withdrew large amounts of cash from the bank account, but he always took out sums that were just less than the threshold that requires the filing of federal financial reports.

Al-Gaheem and the other defendants used the money they stole to renovate the Dayton View businesses and pay for personal expenses, such as rent, mortgage and other bills, said assistant U.S. Attorney Dwight Keller.

Five Pillars Market

Given the grungy, ghetto-like appearance of the Five Pillars Market and the Cup of Dreams coffee shop, shown in these photos, I doubt that much of the money was spent on renovations.

Keller urged Judge Timothy S. Black to give Al-Gaheem the maximum prison sentence to deter him from breaking the law in the future and also to send a message that this criminal activity will not be tolerated.

“Mr. Al-Gaheem is arguably the most culpable” defendant in the case, Keller said.
[…]
Black sentenced Al-Gaheem to the same prison term that he handed down to Qadir in November.

In addition to prison, Black also ordered Al-Gaheem to be placed on three years of community control after his release.

Al-Gaheem and the other co-defendants in the case will be ordered to pay $3.8 million in restitution to the federal government, even though authorities doubt that they can even come close to paying back the money they stole.

Yamini is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 20. Yahya is scheduled to be sentenced in late February.

More here.

Al-Idu Al-Gaheem at Cup of Dreams coffee shop
Al-Idu Al-Gaheem at Cup of Dreams coffee shop

 
Let’s start connecting the dots:

Yahoo! News: Dayton, Ohio, Imam Indicted for Food Stamp Fraud, Money Laundering

[…]
★ USDA Inspector General Phyllis K. Fong stated that funds from “fraudulent operations” often aid criminal enterprises, such as drug trafficking and gang activity, according to the Dayton Daily News. Fong testified during a congressional hearing last year that food stamp funds have been laundered and transferred to the Middle East and the horn of Africa.
[…]
★ Food stamp fraud “siphons” approximately $330 million from the program nationwide each year, according to USDA statistics quotes in the Dayton Daily News.
[…]
More here.

Follow the money!

The federal investigators should have tracked down where this money went, after it was withdrawn in cash. How much did Al-Gaheem and the other defendants contribute to the Masjid At-Taqwa mosque where he served as imam? How much did they expend for zakat (mandatory Muslim “charity,” of which a considerable portion goes to fund the jihad)? How much did they transfer overseas via hawala? I realize that hawala is an informal money transfer system that, by design, is difficult to trace. But the investigators should at least have made the effort, rather than simply taking the defendants’ word for how they spent their ill-gotten gains.

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113 Responses to “Ohio imam gets just one year for $3.8M food stamp fraud: Where did the money really go?”
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  1. 1 | December 18, 2012 8:35 am

    Interesting thing here. It is the top five individual gun massacres. The interesting thing is that only one of them is in the United States. That would be the Virginia Tech shooter. Yet we are bombarded with how dangerous and evil America is. Something to think about.


  2. rain of lead
    2 | December 18, 2012 8:45 am

    mornin IF
    Rush was talking yesterday about the worst school massacre in US history
    was in 1927 or 29
    dude used dynamite and blew up a school killing 30 something


  3. Guggi
    3 | December 18, 2012 8:51 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    You don’t protect citizens by taking away their protection. If only one at th e island where Breivik shot those young people would have had a weapon their would have been fewer vicitims.


  4. 4 | December 18, 2012 8:55 am

    OT already? Okay…

    Step 1 – Horrible mass shooting occurs.

    Step 2 – Liberal politicians, MSM and talking heads issue load calls for additional gun control

    Step 3 – ?

    Step 3 is, of course, this…

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/gun-sales-surge-after-connecticut-massacre/

    Me, I’m going to be a contrarian this time and not run out and buy another gun. The only one I’m currently thinking of isn’t on anybody’s radar screen at the moment anyway.


  5. rain of lead
    5 | December 18, 2012 8:56 am

    completly stolen from somewhere else
    because it’s just that good

    #4 Teri L. 2012-12-16 13:49 EST
    “When you let the screeching of the left get inside your head, they’ve won the war. When you analyze your comments and your motives and go through the process of soul searching, you’re doing what most intelligent, decent people do when they’re genuinely concerned they hurt someone….however, the leftist stooges who send you on that process know that it’s an arduous and sometimes painful process for those of us with a conscience, and that if they succeed in making you do it a few times, you will begin to shy away from controversy, and they will have silenced yet another voice on the right.”


  6. 6 | December 18, 2012 8:56 am

    Er, “loud” calls, not “load” calls. Freudian slip there…


  7. 7 | December 18, 2012 8:59 am

    @ Guggi:

    Yep. Some people are starting to see that here:

    ST. LOUIS COUNTY (KMOX) – St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch says it is time to talk about arming civilian school personnel following Friday’s massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, comparing it to arming airline pilots after September 11, 2001.

    “I see it no differently,” he said. “Pilots have been armed now for many many years, we’ve not had another hijacking and the issue is, for the bad guy, he doesn’t know which airplane he’s getting on, if the pilot is armed or not.”

    Fitch said the killing will not be stopped by legislation or laws. “If there’s somebody that’s really hellbent on doing something like this, they’re not going to care what the law is.”

    Just as the solution to someone abusing free speech is more speech, the solution to someone abusing the Right to Keep and Bear arms is more guns in the hands of victims. Personally, I think it would be a much safer world if most people carried guns. There will always be those who don’t want to, but they will be protected to a degree by the fact that so many around them are armed. This is similar to the way vaccination protects even those who refuse to get vaccinated by building up herd immunity. By having a mostly armed populace, not only will mass shootings be averted, but regular crimes such as robbery and rape will be decreased. This is already the case in the United States. Gun ownership has been going steadily up for the last 20 years, and crime rates have been going steadily down. People who want more gun control, though, don’t care about crime. They want to eliminate self-defense as a religious thing.


  8. rain of lead
    8 | December 18, 2012 9:06 am

    These Are The 13 Rules Of Gunfighting Everyone Should Know

    Have a gun.

    Some words to the wise. Shooting Advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it.

    A) Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.

    B) It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

    C) Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

    D) Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.

    E) Never say “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.

    F) The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

    G) The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary.

    H) Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets…You may get killed with your own gun, but he’ll have to beat you to death with it, cause it’ll be empty.

    I) If you’re in a gun fight:
    If you’re not shooting, you should be loading.
    If you’re not loading, you should be moving.
    If you’re not shooting, moving or loading, you’re probably dead.

    J) In a life and death situation, do something…It may be wrong, but do something!

    K) If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?

    L) You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much a universal language.

    M) You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

    “Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading,” — Thomas Jefferson


  9. 9 | December 18, 2012 9:11 am

    @ Mike C.:

    We went to the local indoor range on Sunday, and there was a line at the door before the place opened. I don’t know if that is normal, but it seemd to me that they were really busy considering that it is a Sunday in the Christmas season. The American people have been voting against gun control with their wallets ever since Obama was elected to the Presidency. I don’t think that there is any way that the Democrats can get anything through the House on the issue. I am worried about what Obama may do by Executive Order, though. I don’t know if the Roberts Court has the stomach to tell him “No” on such an issue.


  10. rain of lead
    10 | December 18, 2012 9:16 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    here is what Obama can do

    Even without Congress, Obama could act to restrict guns

    (Reuters) – Unburdened by re-election worries and empowered by law to act without Congress, U.S. President Barack Obama could take action to improve background checks on gun buyers, ban certain gun imports and bolster oversight of dealers.

    it is a Reuters story after all


  11. 11 | December 18, 2012 9:18 am

    As I said yesterday, substantially more gun control is in the offing and the best we can hope for is mitigation. Most people are seeing this through emotional eyes and the gun control people are seeing it through opportunistic eyes. 20 dead first graders evokes a far deeper response than a comparable number of teenagers or college students. I disagree that this will go away any time soon; Obama and the gun control lobby ride this toward sweeping weapons legislation and it matters not that said legislation will be meaningless and ineffective. What will matter is that they’re “doing something”.

    Some think it’ll never make it through Congress – picture on one side of the screen, the nebulous “assault rifle” and on the other side of the screen, pictures of the dead children, does anyone really think arguments based on logic and/or facts are going to win the day? Did arguments based on logic and/or facts with the election? When was the last time we won a single argument based on logic/facts?


  12. rain of lead
    12 | December 18, 2012 9:19 am

    or this

    Obama asks Cabinet members for proposals to curb gun violence

    President Obama on Monday began the first serious push of his administration to attempt to reduce gun violence, directing Cabinet members to formulate a set of proposals that could include reinstating a ban on assault rifles.

    The effort will be led by Vice President Biden, according to two people outside the government who have spoken to senior administration officials


  13. 13 | December 18, 2012 9:21 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Interesting thing here. It is the top five individual gun massacres. The interesting thing is that only one of them is in the United States. That would be the Virginia Tech shooter. Yet we are bombarded with how dangerous and evil America is. Something to think about.

    It’s called propaganda and the Right does not know how to counter it.


  14. Guggi
    14 | December 18, 2012 9:21 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I don’t know if the Roberts Court has the stomach to tell him “No” on such an issue.

    I wouldn’t bet on it.


  15. buzzsawmonkey
    15 | December 18, 2012 9:24 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    Obama asks Cabinet members for proposals to curb gun violence

    He wants to curb gun violence? Maybe he should go for a stroll on Chicago’s South Side, and meet with the gang members.


  16. 16 | December 18, 2012 9:24 am

    @ rain of lead:

    The thing is, if Obama acts unilatterally, he may be surrendering the House and Senate to the Republicans in 2014. Voters do not want more gun control. The history of the last twenty years shows that. Illinois just got told to get righteous on concealed carry. The movement in the Courts is away from new gun control as is the movement in the States. I could see Obama tinkering with the instant background checks, but that is about all he can do without pissing large numbers of people off. Of course, if he really just doesn’t care, he could bring semi-automatic weapons under the NFA as “any other weapon”. That is what worries me. That move might not be Constitutional, but Obama hasn’t shown himself to be worried about the nicities of the Constitution.


  17. Guggi
    17 | December 18, 2012 9:26 am

    Some background about the Lanza-family


  18. buzzsawmonkey
    18 | December 18, 2012 9:29 am

    Regarding the thread topic. “Islam,” or some version thereof, appears to have provided a large portion of the American black criminal class with cover for creating aliases; for engaging in scams and criminal activity under the sheltering cover of religion; and for rhetorical excuses and justification for violence.


  19. 19 | December 18, 2012 9:31 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    but Obama hasn’t shown himself to be worried about the nicities of the Constitution.

    When you do not have an organize opposition, you can act as you please. Obama does what he wants because the Republicans are useless.


  20. MikeA
    20 | December 18, 2012 9:34 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Considering islam was founded on violence and criminal activity, its a natural that criminals would be attracted to it.


  21. buzzsawmonkey
    21 | December 18, 2012 9:41 am

    MikeA wrote:

    Considering islam was founded on violence and criminal activity, its a natural that criminals would be attracted to it.

    There is a remarkable resemblance between the warlord/raiding/polygamous/”honor”-based culture of Islam and the gangsta/turf war/baby mama/kill-for-“dissing” culture of certain inner-city neighborhoods.


  22. rain of lead
    22 | December 18, 2012 9:41 am

    @ Rodan:

    hey Rodan
    have you seen the trailer for pacific rim?
    giant monsters vs giant mecha robots
    looks like a fun flick


  23. 23 | December 18, 2012 9:45 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    There is a remarkable resemblance between the warlord/raiding/polygamous/”honor”-based culture of Islam and the gangsta/turf war/baby mama/kill-for-”dissing” culture of certain inner-city neighborhoods.

    Much as early Christians “imprinted” holy days upon existing pagan rituals, I believe Muslims have “imprinted” Islam on man’s worst instincts as exhibited by the criminal class. It doesn’t challenge you to forswear abhorrent behavior, just change it’s name and purpose.


  24. 24 | December 18, 2012 9:55 am

    @ rain of lead:

    No I haven’t, but I am hearing alot of buzz about the flick.


  25. 25 | December 18, 2012 9:56 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    hey Rodan
    have you seen the trailer for pacific rim?
    giant monsters vs giant mecha robots
    looks like a fun flick

    Yeah, if you’re 10 years old…


  26. 26 | December 18, 2012 9:56 am

    Okay – does anyone know if Karl Rove is in San Francisco? Because I swear I just held the door open for him at Starbucks and there was a limo parked outside. If not, he’s the first-place winner of the look-alike contest.


  27. buzzsawmonkey
    27 | December 18, 2012 9:57 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Okay — does anyone know if Karl Rove is in San Francisco? Because I swear I just held the door open for him at Starbucks and there was a limo parked outside. If not, he’s the first-place winner of the look-alike contest.

    If you’d said, “Soooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeee, pig, pig, pig” and he’d responded, you’d know for sure…


  28. 28 | December 18, 2012 10:00 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Okay — does anyone know if Karl Rove is in San Francisco? Because I swear I just held the door open for him at Starbucks and there was a limo parked outside. If not, he’s the first-place winner of the look-alike contest.

    Should have closed the door in his face if it was him! :evil:


  29. 29 | December 18, 2012 10:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    Oddly, Rodan, you’re the first person I thought of afterward. All I could think was “ah, if it WAS you Rove, be grateful it was me at the door and not my buddy [your real name].”


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | December 18, 2012 10:09 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Oddly, Rodan, you’re the first person I thought of afterward. All I could think was “ah, if it WAS you Rove, be grateful it was me at the door and not my buddy [your real name].”

    the verbal beat down would have been EPIC!!!!


  31. 31 | December 18, 2012 10:10 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Indeed. And it didn’t mean to take the thread off topic, but I though Rove….Rodan. Oh hell, I gotta ask!


  32. coldwarrior
    32 | December 18, 2012 10:11 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MikeA wrote:
    Considering islam was founded on violence and criminal activity, its a natural that criminals would be attracted to it.
    There is a remarkable resemblance between the warlord/raiding/polygamous/”honor”-based culture of Islam and the gangsta/turf war/baby mama/kill-for-”dissing” culture of certain inner-city neighborhoods.

    disrespek.


  33. coldwarrior
    33 | December 18, 2012 10:11 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Indeed. And it didn’t mean to take the thread off topic, but I though Rove….Rodan. Oh hell, I gotta ask!

    i would have done a pay per view for that.


  34. 34 | December 18, 2012 10:12 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Yeah I would give Rove a piece of my mind. He’s a fraudster who swindled Republicans out of money.


  35. coldwarrior
    35 | December 18, 2012 10:12 am

    HA!

    PARIS (AP) – Belgium’s foreign minister says his country will welcome anyone from France who wants to follow actor Gerard Depardieu in escaping higher taxes.

    Didier Reynders says Tuesday it’s France’s own fault if its citizens are leaving the country, and it shouldn’t try to push the blame off on Belgium.

    Reynders says in an interview in the French newspaper Le Figaro that France has no one else to blame. The country, he says, should “accept the consequences.


  36. 36 | December 18, 2012 10:13 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I hate Rove. He’s the biggest scumbag in the GOP. A discredited loser who people think is some genius. My neighbors dog has more of a thought process that that corpulent loser.


  37. 37 | December 18, 2012 10:15 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    What’s sad are the Conservatives who view Rove as some divine saint. He’s a Progressive scam artist who miles and manipulates Conservatives. But I am the bad guy for calling out Leftists pretending to be Conservatives.


  38. 38 | December 18, 2012 10:16 am

    My ultimate dream would be walking down the street and seeing Karl Rove homeless like a bum on the streets begging for money. That would be the ultimate justice for the damage that pig has done.


  39. coldwarrior
    39 | December 18, 2012 10:17 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    What’s sad are the Conservatives who view Rove as some divine saint. He’s a Progressive scam artist who miles and manipulates Conservatives. But I am the bad guy for calling out Leftists pretending to be Conservatives.

    SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!!!!

    :lol:


  40. 40 | December 18, 2012 10:21 am

    @ Rodan:

    I have to admit I used to like Karl Rove. Even bought his book. Hadn’t gotten around to reading it, but after his behavior lately, it DOES make an excellent doorstop.


  41. 41 | December 18, 2012 10:21 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    If you oppose people like Rove, the Bush Family, Bachmann or Santorum, you become a heretic. Well I am proud of my heresy. Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley are members of my heresy. Funny, I thought these 2 founded the Conservative movement. Funny how Buckley and Goldwater’s name are no longer mentioned with respect among Conservatives nowadays.

    Maybe what is being called Conservatives today is not Conservatism. Just a thought. It’s a sad day when Santorum is held in higher esteem than Barry Goldwater.


  42. 42 | December 18, 2012 10:23 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I have to admit I used to like Karl Rove. Even bought his book. Hadn’t gotten around to reading it, but after his behavior lately, it DOES make an excellent doorstop.

    I never liked Rove nor that family he worked for.


  43. coldwarrior
    43 | December 18, 2012 10:24 am

    @ Rodan:

    if peeps knew what a smarmy little obnoxious punk santorum is in real life he would have never made it as far as he did. he lost by 16 points in PA for a reason.


  44. 44 | December 18, 2012 10:28 am

    Gérard Depardieu to return French passport

    The French actor whose eccentric personality has come to symbolize a certain, old fashioned form of Gallic love for good food and the pleasures in life, also known as a “bon vivant,” said he is finished with the country, in a letter published in the Journal du Dimanche.

    It is addressed to Jean-Marc Ayrault, the French prime minister, who called Depardieu “pathetic” for wanting to move just over the French border to the wealthy Belgian town of Néchin, where he will evade the current Left-leaning government’s tax hikes.

    “I am handing over to you my passport and social security, which I have never used,” he said. “We no longer have the same homeland, I am a true European, a citizen of the world, as my father always taught me to believe.”

    He concludes: “Despite my excesses, my appetite and love for life, I am a free being, Sir, and will remain polite.”

    Following news of his plans to relocate in Belgium, and sell his 19th century Paris mansion, public scorn – especially on the political Left – has magnified for the actor who has come out in support of former conservative President Nicolas Sarkozy.

    I never cared much for the guy, but I have to tip my hat to him. The viciousness of their response reveals their smallness…..


  45. 45 | December 18, 2012 10:30 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    But he’s a hero to many “Conservatives.” A man who is against personal freedom, is a conservative icon now. Remember when we used to believe in limited government? Those were the days!


  46. 46 | December 18, 2012 10:31 am

    @ Rodan:

    Pray tell me, what Freedom is Santorum against? I am most curious.


  47. 47 | December 18, 2012 10:35 am

    Oh, this is RICH:

    Filmmaker Michael Moore’s (search) bodyguard was arrested for carrying an unlicensed weapon in New York’s JFK airport Wednesday night.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144921,00.html#ixzz2FPzE0O88

    All hail King Lardass the hypocrite!


  48. 48 | December 18, 2012 10:36 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Pray tell me, what Freedom is Santorum against? I am most curious.

    He’s against economic freedom. Santorum wants to redistribute wealth in the name of the family. He envisions some Socialist Family-Government partnership, where money will be taken from singles and redistributed to families.

    Here is what Cato has to say about Santorum.


  49. lobo91
    49 | December 18, 2012 10:36 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Pray tell me, what Freedom is Santorum against? I am most curious.

    You didn’t hear? He was planning to bring back the Spanish Inquisition and force everyone to convert to Catholicism.

    //


  50. 50 | December 18, 2012 10:39 am

    @ lobo91:

    Just what we need. More Democrat voters.


  51. lobo91
    51 | December 18, 2012 10:40 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Just what we need. More Democrat voters.

    We already have Mexico to provide those.


  52. 52 | December 18, 2012 10:40 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Why would he need a bodyguard, I thought he was a champion of the people?


  53. lobo91
    53 | December 18, 2012 10:42 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Why would he need a bodyguard, I thought he was a champion of the people?

    He needs an armed bodyguard to protect him from those bitter clingers…


  54. RIX
    54 | December 18, 2012 10:44 am

    Good morning. I just read the post on the Imam.
    The Black criminal element seems to have a real
    affinity for Islam.
    I recall reading the biography of Malcom X (Detroit Red)
    He was petty criminal, but his conversion to Islam made
    him an icon to people like our President.


  55. 55 | December 18, 2012 10:44 am

    It’s funny seeing Conservatives defend a Theocratic Socialist. I guess socialism is OK as long as it’s masked in a bible.


  56. 56 | December 18, 2012 10:45 am

    @ lobo91:

    With that attitude, no wonder Mexicans vote Democratic.


  57. 57 | December 18, 2012 10:46 am

    Have a nice day all.


  58. 58 | December 18, 2012 10:48 am

    Oh man….This is good. How does Barack Obama’s signature look when vertical? Like a [PenisPenisPenisLOL]:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/18/this-is-what-obamas-signature-looks-like-when-vertical-photo/

    Not surprising, though. I always considered him a dickhead.


  59. lobo91
    59 | December 18, 2012 10:53 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    With that attitude, no wonder Mexicans vote Democratic.

    Mexicans should be voting for PAN or PRI, since those are parties in their country.

    US citizens of hispanic descent can vote for whomever they like,


  60. theoutsider
    60 | December 18, 2012 10:54 am

    @ Rodan:
    That clown Huckabee, actually blamed the Newtown massacre on the lack of prayer in public schools. What a moron. Huckabee and Santorum, go the hell away.


  61. lobo91
    61 | December 18, 2012 10:56 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    That clown Huckabee, actually blamed the Newtown massacre on the lack of prayer in public schools. What a moron. Huckabee and Santorum, go the hell away.

    It was clearly the fault of the ACLU and other left-wing groups getting mental institutions shut down in the name of “mainstreaming” crazy people.


  62. Speranza
    62 | December 18, 2012 11:02 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Okay — does anyone know if Karl Rove is in San Francisco? Because I swear I just held the door open for him at Starbucks and there was a limo parked outside. If not, he’s the first-place winner of the look-alike contest.

    I would have kicked that fat fucker in his shins and say “put that on your chalk board!”


  63. Speranza
    63 | December 18, 2012 11:04 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    That clown Huckabee, actually blamed the Newtown massacre on the lack of prayer in public schools. What a moron. Huckabee and Santorum, go the hell away.

    By the way did you check this out from yesterday
    Chuck Hagel on the issues
    He most definitely is a social con.


  64. buzzsawmonkey
    64 | December 18, 2012 11:05 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    That clown Huckabee, actually blamed the Newtown massacre on the lack of prayer in public schools. What a moron.

    Just as people on the Left speak in code or abbreviated terms—“gun control” means “destroy self-defense and personal liberty,” “post-racial” means “black revenge for non-existent wrongs”—so do people on the Right. Most of the time, ascribing social ills to “lack of prayer in the schools” is merely a short-hand way of referring to, and decrying, the trend towards “freedom from religion” which the Left has been pursuing in order to rend the fabric of society.


  65. Speranza
    65 | December 18, 2012 11:06 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    That clown Huckabee, actually blamed the Newtown massacre on the lack of prayer in public schools. What a moron. Huckabee and Santorum, go the hell away.

    I have to agree with you. I saw Huckabee on Neil Cavuto’s show say that. Huckabee could not or would not convince Todd Akin to take one for the team and withdraw, costing the GOP the Missouri Senate seat.


  66. 66 | December 18, 2012 11:06 am

    @ Speranza:

    Hi snooks. In truth, I thought of you, too! It was funny, because I thought about it later it came to me that if this guy wasn’t Rove, he looks enough like him to probably get abused verbally everywhere he goes.


  67. Speranza
    67 | December 18, 2012 11:07 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Hi snooks. In truth, I thought of you, too! It was funny, because I thought about it later it came to me that if this guy wasn’t Rove, he looks enough like him to probably get abused verbally everywhere he goes.

    and going into San Francisco is dangerous for “The Architect”. I cannot believe the asshole is back on Fox.


  68. 68 | December 18, 2012 11:08 am

    @ Speranza:

    Really? Crap I thought they’d gotten rid of him.


  69. Speranza
    69 | December 18, 2012 11:11 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Really? Crap I thought they’d gotten rid of him.

    He was on Bret Baier’s “Special Report – All Star Panel” the other day. Rove has nothing of interest to say about any one. He is not a dispassionate commenter but a hack for a faction of the Republican Party based in Crawford Texas.


  70. Speranza
    70 | December 18, 2012 11:12 am

    Well at least Dick Morris has not been seen lately. Although I would rather see Morris who is at least entertaining then “The Architect”.


  71. pat
    71 | December 18, 2012 11:14 am

    Corey Booker says he can’t get by on food stamps, but every one in this guy’s neighborhood can sell theirs for drug money. Doesn’t add up, does it?


  72. theoutsider
    72 | December 18, 2012 11:16 am

    @ Speranza:
    We agree again. It’s a good sign. Sometimes agree, sometimes disagree.


  73. 73 | December 18, 2012 11:17 am

    @ Speranza:

    The trouble with Morris is every time I see him, all I think is “toe sucking.”

    That professor who called for Wayne LaPierre’s “head on a stick” is now trying to walk back the rhetoric after being savaged on Twitter.


  74. buzzsawmonkey
    74 | December 18, 2012 11:19 am

    pat wrote:

    Corey Booker says he can’t get by on food stamps, but every one in this guy’s neighborhood can sell theirs for drug money. Doesn’t add up, does it?

    Maybe Booker’s drug habit is bigger than theirs…


  75. 75 | December 18, 2012 11:19 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    The trouble with Morris is every time I see him, all I think is “toe sucking.”

    Heh, I was telling my wife the same thing a while back.


  76. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | December 18, 2012 11:21 am

    pat wrote:

    Corey Booker says he can’t get by on food stamps, but every one in this guy’s neighborhood can sell theirs for drug money. Doesn’t add up, does it?

    Booker’s problem may be that he shoots the food stamp budget all to hell by having to pay his cook.


  77. Guggi
    77 | December 18, 2012 11:24 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The trouble with Morris is every time I see him, all I think is “toe sucking.”
    That professor who called for Wayne LaPierre’s “head on a stick” is now trying to walk back the rhetoric after being savaged on Twitter.

    Ok, does he want to kill him before he cuts his head off – and if so what weapon does he wish to use to kill him ? – or is he all in Islamists mood and cuts his head alive ?


  78. Speranza
    78 | December 18, 2012 11:26 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    We agree again. It’s a good sign. Sometimes agree, sometimes disagree.

    Hey I follow where the facts are and if they are in your court I will say so. I am not an ideologue. I don’t owe anything to the GOP and when they act like jerks I say so. I am not intimidated by the “circular firing squad” argument which is an attempt to have everyone on the Right fall into line and stifle debate.


  79. Speranza
    79 | December 18, 2012 11:27 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The trouble with Morris is every time I see him, all I think is “toe sucking.”
    That professor who called for Wayne LaPierre’s “head on a stick” is now trying to walk back the rhetoric after being savaged on Twitter.

    Left-wing professors (there’s a redundancy) can say just about anything.


  80. Speranza
    80 | December 18, 2012 11:28 am

    Dick Morris has allowed his intense dislike for Hillary Clinton color his rational analysis of poltiics.


  81. 81 | December 18, 2012 11:30 am

    @ Rodan:

    He is for more social spending than I like, but, let’s face it, the voters want a generous “safety net”. You aren’t going to get rid of it. Why is it that the Fis COns always tell us “There’s no perfect candidate”, and that we should give up on our principles, but there is no room for compromise on their side of the aisle?


  82. 82 | December 18, 2012 11:32 am

    @ Guggi:

    I tweeted to him directly that he was a cowardly patronizing twit trying to walk back his violent rhetoric. I imagine he hasn’t responded because he’s sitting in some Dean’s office trying to explain why the school’s switchboard has been jammed all morning.


  83. pat
    83 | December 18, 2012 11:32 am

    I am afraid that pompous ass O’Reilly really is right. The 47% plus union/government workers exceeds productive Americans. Add in the anti-white male vote and you have a huge majority wherein only a fraction need show up on election day to elect a shallow dolt like Obama.


  84. Speranza
    84 | December 18, 2012 11:32 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    let’s face it, the voters want a generous “safety net”.

    I agree on that. That is why Perry’s “Social Security is a Ponzi scheme” statement was a campaign killer.


  85. theoutsider
    85 | December 18, 2012 11:32 am

    @ Speranza:
    Same here.


  86. taxfreekiller
    86 | December 18, 2012 11:33 am

    On Food Stamp Fraud:
    Ms tf and I had to make an early Sat. trip over to the East side of Dallas. Had to stop for gas at a 7-Eleven on I-30 near Lake Ray Hubbard. Only one other person there at the time.
    A big old 2012 F-350 4X4 Off Road Ford Pickup, Power Stroke Diesiel, and us in the 1990 Jeep Waggoneer.

    When I went in to pay there was this 24 or so year old clearly Mexican non english speaker (had a leather jacket with “Durango” on the back).

    He was trying to pay for a bunch of cokes and snacks with a “U.S.A. Dept. of Ag FOOD STAMP Debit Card.

    It being the “gov’ment” thinks 7-Eleven charges to much for cokes and snacks they have been deleted from the program.

    The “most likely illegal” was hot under the collar.

    I can understand most of what Mexican say and it was not nice.
    The clerk kept responding with the 7-Eleven company proper response.
    We can not help you , they took us off the list and your card will not work here.

    $45,000.00 new truck,

    Food Stamp’s

    illegal person
    illegal use

    rude to boot


  87. 87 | December 18, 2012 11:33 am

    @ pat:

    Drug money is more important than food. You can get food at the local charity kitchen or charity pantry. You can[t get drug money forom the religious people. That’s why you have to have a generous “safety net”. Like Pelosie Galore said, food stamps create jobs. She just left out that a good many of those jobs involve dealing illegal drugs.


  88. Guggi
    88 | December 18, 2012 11:33 am

    @ Guggi:

    Seams he has a long history of being a leftwing dolt:

    Erik Loomis, University of Rhode Island History Professor, Calls for ‘Decades-Long Fight to the Death’ Against Conservatives


  89. Speranza
    89 | December 18, 2012 11:34 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Same here.

    Keep this up and we will be having a beer together. lol.
    Any way since I am off today so I got to go to the Post Office and mail out some cards.


  90. 90 | December 18, 2012 11:34 am

    @ Speranza:

    Yep. It was true, but people couldn’t handle the truth. They’d rather pretend nothing is wrong until our creditors cut us off.


  91. Speranza
    91 | December 18, 2012 11:35 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    I tweeted to him directly that he was a cowardly patronizing twit trying to walk back his violent rhetoric. I imagine he hasn’t responded because he’s sitting in some Dean’s office trying to explain why the school’s switchboard has been jammed all morning.

    Speaking of twits, Rob Parker of ESPN’s “First Take” is still suspended.


  92. Guggi
    92 | December 18, 2012 11:36 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    I tweeted to him directly that he was a cowardly patronizing twit trying to walk back his violent rhetoric. I imagine he hasn’t responded because he’s sitting in some Dean’s office trying to explain why the school’s switchboard has been jammed all morning.

    Look at him :-P no wonder he is such an idiot.


  93. Speranza
    93 | December 18, 2012 11:37 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Yep. It was true, but people couldn’t handle the truth. They’d rather pretend nothing is wrong until our creditors cut us off.

    What he needed to say was that “we need to fix social security as so many people are depended on it”.


  94. pat
    94 | December 18, 2012 11:37 am

    Is John Kerry a racist?
    Speculation he was the one torpedoing Susan “Showtime” Rice.
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/husband-of-top-deputy-to-susan-rice-tweets-anti-kerry-messages/


  95. 95 | December 18, 2012 11:38 am

    @ Guggi:

    He doesn’t really want a fight to the death with conservatives. We’re the ones who believe in guns. He is an over-paid blowhard who couldn’t get a job in the real world. I hope he gets fired from his cushy University gig. Parents should really look at what they are paying for when they send their kids off to college.


  96. pat
    96 | December 18, 2012 11:42 am

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/i-dont-care-if-a-bunch-of-white-kids-got-killed-find-out-who-said-this-about-sandy-hook-massacre/
    Minority business owner lets out his true feelings about a bunch of white kids dying. Business not doing so well.


  97. Speranza
    97 | December 18, 2012 11:42 am

    pat wrote:

    Is John Kerry a racist?
    Speculation he was the one torpedoing Susan “Showtime” Rice.
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/husband-of-top-deputy-to-susan-rice-tweets-anti-kerry-messages/

    Rice is less dangerous then Kerry.


  98. pat
    98 | December 18, 2012 11:48 am

    @ Speranza:
    Kerry will go off the tracks faster. He is as narcissistic as Obama and actually believes he is smart.


  99. Speranza
    99 | December 18, 2012 11:52 am

    pat wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Kerry will go off the tracks faster. He is as narcissistic as Obama and actually believes he is smart.

    Rice was just an Obama follower, Kerry has his own agenda and praised Bashaar Assad. Look for Samantha Power to takeover at the U.N. – uggh!


  100. Speranza
    100 | December 18, 2012 11:52 am

    pat wrote:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/i-dont-care-if-a-bunch-of-white-kids-got-killed-find-out-who-said-this-about-sandy-hook-massacre/
    Minority business owner lets out his true feelings about a bunch of white kids dying. Business not doing so well.

    I hope his restaurant suffers for his big mouth.


  101. 101 | December 18, 2012 11:53 am

    @ pat:

    What committee holds his confirmation hearing? Foreign Relations? Do we have a real conservative on that committee, because I hope the Swift Vets get to appear as witnesses to this traitor’s behavior.


  102. 102 | December 18, 2012 11:54 am

    @ pat:

    Holy heck – you should see what they’ve done to that restaurant on YELP. Not pretty. But well deserved.


  103. 103 | December 18, 2012 11:55 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Look for Samantha Power to takeover at the U.N.

    Obama will really get his anti-Israel agenda out in the open. He knows the vast majority of the Jews will vote Democrat anyway. He can throw Israel as a bone tohis hard-Left pro-Palestinian base, and the only people that’ll squawk will be Evangelical Christians. He knows those people don’t vote Democrat anyway.


  104. pat
    104 | December 18, 2012 11:57 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    I suspect they will not allow the Swift Vets to testify. And the Senate GOP always votes for other Senators. Democrats apparently do not feel the need.


  105. 105 | December 18, 2012 12:02 pm

    @ pat:

    Sad. I’d love that walking turd to be held accountable in a national televised forum, even if it’s only CSPAN, for the smears he’s perpetrated.


  106. 106 | December 18, 2012 12:04 pm

    Uncle Ted schools Piers Morgan on real gun statistics:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMso12zeYDQ&feature=youtu.be


  107. citizen_q
    107 | December 18, 2012 12:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    He doesn’t really want a fight to the death with conservatives.

    Now isn’t that why they want to disarm us?

    Less of a problem for the state to trample the unarmed, or the unofficial shock troops of the left such as OWS types and union thugs.


  108. 108 | December 18, 2012 12:28 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Exactly. They had hoped OWS would be their SA, but these freaks aren’t up to that level. They retreated to their mother’s basements to plot their revenge on society for all the alledged wrongs that have been comitted against them.


  109. The Osprey
    109 | December 18, 2012 1:02 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MikeA wrote:
    Considering islam was founded on violence and criminal activity, its a natural that criminals would be attracted to it.
    There is a remarkable resemblance between the warlord/raiding/polygamous/”honor”-based culture of Islam and the gangsta/turf war/baby mama/kill-for-”dissing” culture of certain inner-city neighborhoods.

    Bingo.


  110. taxfreekiller
    110 | December 18, 2012 1:17 pm

    Lt. For Life: John F. Kerry.


  111. taxfreekiller
    111 | December 18, 2012 1:18 pm

    Love for “Navy Chief” Troy Jenkins to get Kerry under oath and ask a few questions.


  112. darkwords
    112 | December 18, 2012 3:30 pm

    Let’s ban Imans.


  113. 113 | December 18, 2012 10:57 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    completly stolen from somewhere else
    because it’s just that good
    #4 Teri L. 2012-12-16 13:49 EST
    “When you let the screeching of the left get inside your head, they’ve won the war. When you analyze your comments and your motives and go through the process of soul searching, you’re doing what most intelligent, decent people do when they’re genuinely concerned they hurt someone….however, the leftist stooges who send you on that process know that it’s an arduous and sometimes painful process for those of us with a conscience, and that if they succeed in making you do it a few times, you will begin to shy away from controversy, and they will have silenced yet another voice on the right.”

    That is how the Serbian people (except for me and a handful of others) were turned against themselves. This is beyond tragic.

    darkwords wrote:

    Let’s ban Imans.

    Indeed.

    The Osprey wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    MikeA wrote:
    Considering islam was founded on violence and criminal activity, its a natural that criminals would be attracted to it.
    There is a remarkable resemblance between the warlord/raiding/polygamous/”honor”-based culture of Islam and the gangsta/turf war/baby mama/kill-for-”dissing” culture of certain inner-city neighborhoods.

    Bingo.

    Indeed. Both are “cultures” of death.

    Speranza wrote:

    pat wrote:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/i-dont-care-if-a-bunch-of-white-kids-got-killed-find-out-who-said-this-about-sandy-hook-massacre/
    Minority business owner lets out his true feelings about a bunch of white kids dying. Business not doing so well.

    I hope his restaurant suffers for his big mouth.

    Indeed.

    Speranza wrote:

    theoutsider wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    That clown Huckabee, actually blamed the Newtown massacre on the lack of prayer in public schools. What a moron. Huckabee and Santorum, go the hell away.

    By the way did you check this out from yesterday
    Chuck Hagel on the issues
    He most definitely is a social con.

    Also Chuck Hagel has been a Serb-hater from the get-go.

    lobo91 wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    With that attitude, no wonder Mexicans vote Democratic.
    Mexicans should be voting for PAN or PRI, since those are parties in their country.
    US citizens of hispanic descent can vote for whomever they like,

    Excellent point.


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