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Uh Oh! The Inevitable Has Happened, Crises Successfully Conflated.

by Flyovercountry ( 95 Comments › )
Filed under Politics at December 20th, 2012 - 12:00 pm

This man is evil, and there is no credible way to defend him.

Before you watch the video, here is the Webster definition of the word Demagogue:

A political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.

The above link will take you to Gateway Pundit, where I also found the above youtube clip. It was evil enough that the Sandy Hook Tragedy was used as a political football, once again bringing out the same shrill voices who wish to disabuse us of our Second Amendment Rights, but this is something far worse and far more insidious. While the anti-gun lobby have no shame in setting up straw men, using deflection from pertinent issues in order to sway public opinion, torture non-sequiturs to the point of ridiculous, have perfected ad hominems, and have no qualms with appearing at every tragic event and shamelessly pimping out crocodile tears in an effort to make ordinary people believe that they really care one wit about their anguish, they are at least sincere in their belief that they know what’s best for others and should be the defacto group put in charge of all others due to being better suited to control the lives of those of us less qualified to be breathing. What the President did in his speechifying today during the daily press briefing was far worse, and in fact the single greatest act of pure evil ever perpetrated by an American President.

Barack Obama has openly attempted to prey on American fear in order to push his agenda, and not just the straw man related agenda of gun control, but is attempting to use our national sorrow as a justification for supporting our own economic collapse. This is the Administration that verbalized in February of 2009 that a good crisis should never be allowed to go to waste. It should surprise no one now that they are milking our current anguish for all it is worth.

I keep waiting for the inevitable fall that every charismatic cult leader suffers when people who blindly follow him to their self destruction so slickly disguised as salvation to start. By the way, make no mistake about that, it will one day start, as it has with every such example history has provided thus far. When people realize that he is not interested in delivering their salvation, but only in enhancing his own power at the expense of, well everything and anything that stands in his way to that power, those that followed blindly will be the most angered by the betrayal. History is replete with these types of demagogues, and Barack Obama is no more remarkable, nor any smarter than any of those. He simply is a silver tongued devil, who’s competency begins and ends with his ability to read pre-written words off of a teleprompter.

My faith in my fellow American is this, eventually, we will rid ourselves of this malignancy, we will survive it, and we will do the right thing. As Winston Churchill once quipped, “Americans will eventually do the right thing once they have exhausted all other options.” 10 Million fewer people voted for Barack Obama in 2012 than did in 2008, and my belief is that through each one of these types of incidents, more and more people will realize the truth of this man, who is after all, the least competent man in any room that he enters.

Through two Presidential campaigns, and 4 years in office, Barack Obama has yet to make any kind of political argument for anything that he has done, or plans to do. It sickens me to watch the GOP leadership, capitulate to this evil in so obvious a manner. They too will pay the price for their part in what happens next. Those who fail to stand up to evil bear some responsibility for its fruits, and the upcoming frightful consequence will be no exception to that rule.

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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95 Responses to “Uh Oh! The Inevitable Has Happened, Crises Successfully Conflated.”
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  1. Lily
    1 | December 20, 2012 12:36 pm

    Flyovercountry I keep waiting for that fall too.


  2. eaglesoars
    2 | December 20, 2012 12:37 pm

    When people realize that he is not interested in delivering their salvation,

    I don’t think many of them care. Obama got the low info voters. By definition they don’t pay attention. I doubt they’ll be starting any time soon. When they watch the financial collapse, it won’t be Obama they blame. It will be the ‘unfairly’ rewarded ‘rich’.


  3. buzzsawmonkey
    3 | December 20, 2012 12:40 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    When they watch the financial collapse, it won’t be Obama they blame. It will be the ‘unfairly’ rewarded ‘rich’.

    Yep.

    BTW, in case you missed it: “My Favorite Things.”


  4. Lily
    4 | December 20, 2012 12:51 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    When people realize that he is not interested in delivering their salvation,
    I don’t think many of them care. Obama got the low info voters. By definition they don’t pay attention. I doubt they’ll be starting any time soon. When they watch the financial collapse, it won’t be Obama they blame. It will be the ‘unfairly’ rewarded ‘rich’.

    Indeed! Whoever gets the blame will not be the one responsible for it for sure. With this past re-election it showed quite clearly obama doesn’t have to answer for anything. Which in and of itself is a tragedy.


  5. Lily
    5 | December 20, 2012 12:56 pm

    It really is going to be a very long 4 years……..
    all over the net their is somewhere you can sign to ban assualt weapons. Crazy week.

    Holder Says Obama Will Use His Dictator-Like Executive Actions To Enact Gun Control Policy…

    (Reuters) – The Obama administration will consider executive actions and specific proposals for legislation as part of its gun policy response to the school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said on Wednesday.

    Holder, who has been a vocal proponent of a new ban on certain semiautomatic rifles, told reporters that a range of options need to be considered in the coming weeks.

    Those options will have to include a “strong and robust” Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the chronically under-funded agency that enforces federal gun laws, he said.

    “It’s clear that we need to do more,” Holder said. He did not specifically call on Wednesday for a return of the assault weapon ban

    .

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/20/holder-says-obama-will-use-his-dictator-like-executive-actions-to-enact-gun-control-policy/


  6. eaglesoars
    6 | December 20, 2012 12:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    obama doesn’t have to answer for anything.

    Apparently neither does Hillary -- which pisses me off no end.

    How are you feeling today?


  7. Lily
    7 | December 20, 2012 1:06 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    It ticks me off too.
    I’m feeling all right considering that I was cracked open like a walnut. LOL! I go today for a check-up. Today it’s been two weeks since they did the triple by-pass. As long as they don’t touch me today I think I’ll do fine. LOL!
    /yousers I’m very sore and still hurt a little bit.


  8. 8 | December 20, 2012 1:10 pm

    @ Lily:

    That could start a civil war. The people who are buying guns in record numbers today aren’t buying them to just hand them over when the god-king decrees that they do.


  9. eaglesoars
    9 | December 20, 2012 1:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    /yousers I’m very sore and still hurt a little bit

    I can believe it!

    Rush is reporting that Scott Brown -- who incredibly lost to Elizabeth Warren -- is writing gun control legislation. How the Stupid Party loses………..


  10. Lily
    10 | December 20, 2012 1:14 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Indeed that could cause some problems. With obama you never know what in the hell he is going to do. If he does do this…it isn’t going to be good at all.


  11. Lily
    11 | December 20, 2012 1:16 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Gun Controll laws? Boy they certainly didn’t waste anytime nor did they even wait for the dust to settle on this.


  12. 12 | December 20, 2012 1:20 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    See why I say RINOs aren’t worth the trouble? All they do is make “bipartisan” partisan issues. You never see conservative Democrats swing the other way. You don’t see Joe Manchin crafting legislation to block gun control, do you? Maybe he won’t vote for it (his job is pretty much on the line), but he won;t do anything substantive to impede it.


  13. eaglesoars
    13 | December 20, 2012 1:22 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Gun Controll laws?

    Back to SCOTUS. I can imagine that some states’ attorneys general will start a 10th amendment fight. Texas. Virginia.

    What exactly does Holder think Obama can do? Physically disarm this house?

    pfft. Don’t think so.


  14. Lily
    14 | December 20, 2012 1:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    You have a point.


  15. eaglesoars
    15 | December 20, 2012 1:24 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    You don’t see Joe Manchin crafting legislation to block gun control,

    And the guy is from West Virginia fer cryin’ out loud! That’s not exactly a ‘gun free zone’ last time I checked.


  16. eaglesoars
    16 | December 20, 2012 1:31 pm

    A caller on Rush is saying we have to figure out who the Dems are going to run in 2016 and start destroying him NOW. Rush sez ‘yep, look what the Dems are already doing to Rubio’


  17. Lily
    17 | December 20, 2012 1:41 pm

    A very slow day today.


  18. Lily
    18 | December 20, 2012 1:43 pm


  19. eaglesoars
    19 | December 20, 2012 1:51 pm

    @ Lily:

    akon needs some spelling lessons (where do you FIND this stuff?)

    :lol:


  20. 20 | December 20, 2012 1:54 pm

    @ Lily:

    I’m here, Lily, I just went to get lunch.


  21. RIX
    21 | December 20, 2012 1:58 pm

    My faith in my fellow American is this, eventually, we will rid ourselves of this malignancy, we will survive it, and we will do the right thing

    .

    I want to believe that, but this is a change in the voters.
    It will take a lot of time to undo this.


  22. eaglesoars
    22 | December 20, 2012 1:59 pm

    Time to give Molly more meds. Another 10 minute fight……..

    brb


  23. 23 | December 20, 2012 2:03 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Even worse when you consider that his big commercial airing in West Virginia was him taking his high powered rifle and using it to shoot something that was supposed to be the Cap and Trade Bill being considered at the time. He clearly ran on a pro Second Amendment promise. I hope West Virginia holds him accountable.


  24. eaglesoars
    24 | December 20, 2012 2:04 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Oh jeez, I’d forgotten about that!


  25. Guggi
    25 | December 20, 2012 2:09 pm

    What wonderful and nice people they are:

    Another victim of attacks on anti-polio teams dies in Pakistan, bringing 3-day toll to 9

    Another victim from attacks on U.N.-backed anti-polio teams in Pakistan died on Thursday, bringing the three-day death toll in the wave of assaults on volunteers vaccinating children across the country to nine, officials said.

    Hilal Khan, 20, died a day after he was shot in the head in the northwestern city of Peshawar, said health official Janbaz Afridi

    (…)


  26. 26 | December 20, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Barbarians being barbaric. Ino order to have civilization, the civilized have to be willing to do what it takes to silence the barbarians. In Pakistan (and worse in Afghanistan) the barbarians are winning.


  27. Guggi
    27 | December 20, 2012 2:13 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    They prefer to let their children die because of

    Taliban commanders in the country’s troubled northwest tribal region have also said the vaccinations can’t go forward until the U.S. stops drone strikes in Pakistan.

    The insurgent opposition to the campaign grew last year, after it was revealed that a Pakistani doctor ran a fake vaccination program to help the CIA track down and kill al-Qaida founder Osama bin Laden, who was hiding in the town of Abbottabad in the country’s northwest.

    Can we now blame O. for the death of these people ?


  28. Mars
    28 | December 20, 2012 2:13 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    A caller on Rush is saying we have to figure out who the Dems are going to run in 2016 and start destroying him NOW. Rush sez ‘yep, look what the Dems are already doing to Rubio’

    All the chicken innards and astrology charts point to Deval Patrick.

    No one in the R party has the balls to go after him.


  29. eaglesoars
    29 | December 20, 2012 2:14 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Ino order to have civilization, the civilized have to be willing to do what it takes to silence eliminate the barbarians.


  30. eaglesoars
    30 | December 20, 2012 2:15 pm

    Mars wrote:

    No one in the R party has the balls to go after him.

    Another ‘get back, he’s BLACK’ dynamic…..


  31. 31 | December 20, 2012 2:21 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    That’s going to get old pretty quick. I think political correctness has already passed its half-life. People are going ot get fed up with it, especially when you have black racists like Jamie Foxx spouting off their hate whitey script. Either racism is vile and reprehensible, or it isn’t. Given the race-monger’s reactions to the likes of Foxx and all, I’m figuring that they don’t really have a problem with racism per se, only with certain races.


  32. eaglesoars
    32 | December 20, 2012 2:23 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I’m figuring that they don’t really have a problem with racism per se

    Tim Scott is a ‘token’.

    From a Univ Penn poli sci prof.

    He should be denied his tenure and fired.


  33. 33 | December 20, 2012 2:29 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yes, just like the blatantly racist editorial cartoons that were ran about Condi Rice (some sexism there, too. I don’t recall similar things bout Colin Powell). Racism is only bad if it is the wrong racism. Otherwise it is perfectly acceptible behavior. Look at all the blatant anti-Semitism from the anti-Israel camp. They’d have to be wearing swastika armbands to get any more anti-Semitic, yet they are tenured professors and “respected” community “leaders”. I include our current President in that camp.


  34. Mars
    34 | December 20, 2012 2:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    That’s going to get old pretty quick. I think political correctness has already passed its half-life. People are going ot get fed up with it, especially when you have black racists like Jamie Foxx spouting off their hate whitey script. Either racism is vile and reprehensible, or it isn’t. Given the race-monger’s reactions to the likes of Foxx and all, I’m figuring that they don’t really have a problem with racism per se, only with certain races.

    I was looking at stuff differently the last few days and came to the conclusion that the Foxx stuff was planned.

    After he said it they waited a couple days to see how much outrage occurred and then they proceeded to reward him.

    It was announced that he was up for several awards, and then announced that he will be playing a primary villain in the next spiderman movie.

    They planned it, he followed through, and now he’s being rewarded for his servitude.

    The election emboldened these scumbags and now they are just testing the waters to see how much they can get away with without any backlash.


  35. buzzsawmonkey
    35 | December 20, 2012 2:33 pm

    Speaking of racism, is it my imagination or is Quentin Tarantino truly the despicable violence-porn huckster, and now racism pimp, that I think he is?


  36. Guggi
    37 | December 20, 2012 2:36 pm

    and again:

    It is becoming increasingly clear that the United States, which has huge gas surpluses as a result of the boom in shale gas production, is interested in exporting liquefied natural gas (LNG) to its European North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) partners. The European Commission welcomes the decision, on one condition, said Marlene Holzner, spokeswoman for Energy Commissioner Günther Oettinger, on 19 December: the LNG exports must be available to all 27 EU member states, not just the 21 NATO members. While the decision is still being debated across the Atlantic, the delivery of LNG to Europe could redraw the entire geopolitical energy map


  37. 38 | December 20, 2012 2:37 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The election is over so now he does the National Party’s bidding.


  38. darkwords
    39 | December 20, 2012 2:39 pm

    @ 35 buzzsawmonkey: He has smoked too much liberal crack and is chafing that it’s illegal. He thinks it advantageous to sell an idea of destruction of tradition. So he can smoke crack legally.


  39. 40 | December 20, 2012 2:39 pm

    @ Mars:

    I was looking at stuff differently the last few days and came to the conclusion that the Foxx stuff was planned.

    ‘Of course it is. It was to generate controversy (ticket sales) and get Conservatives worked up. Now he is reaping the reward of his actions.

    He’s an actor and does what he is told.


  40. 41 | December 20, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yeah, they are all getting off on the “super-minority” shit, but sooner or later the majority is going to get tired of being demonized. They are going to remember that there are more of them than there are of the minorities, so why, again, should they put up with it?


  41. darkwords
    42 | December 20, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ 25 Guggi: illiteracy. I haven’t kept up with the cultures but I think there is a conspiracy theory abroad that rumor that vaccinations have nefarious purposes. It means instead of throwing a doctor into a remote area, some diplomacy and buy in needs to occur first.


  42. eaglesoars
    43 | December 20, 2012 2:42 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    While the decision is still being debated across the Atlantic, the delivery of LNG to Europe could redraw the entire geopolitical energy map

    Watch Obama kill it. There’s no way he wants the U.S. to be successful at anything except groveling.


  43. 44 | December 20, 2012 2:43 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Racism towards certain groups in America is acceptable. It’s the way elites divide people and rule over serfs.


  44. eaglesoars
    45 | December 20, 2012 2:45 pm

    Mars wrote:

    I was looking at stuff differently the last few days and came to the conclusion that the Foxx stuff was planned

    Well, it was bad timing -- so close to Newton.


  45. 46 | December 20, 2012 2:45 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Yep. Democrats are Democrats first, and any principles that they might entertain having are definately secondaryto party loyalty. Republicans are different in that. We kowtow to the RINOs, and then act surprised when they stab us in the back. What did Arlen Specter ever do for the Party that he was rewarded with chairmanship of the Judiciary Comittee for? He voted with the Democrats as often as not before he jumped ship to provide a filibuster-proof senate to get ObamaCare through. His priorities were always that of the Democrat Party. When he could best serve the Democrats as a “Republican” he was a Republican, but when it was more advantageous for him to show his true colors he didn’t hesitate.


  46. Mars
    47 | December 20, 2012 2:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    I was looking at stuff differently the last few days and came to the conclusion that the Foxx stuff was planned.
    ‘Of course it is. It was to generate controversy (ticket sales) and get Conservatives worked up. Now he is reaping the reward of his actions.
    He’s an actor and does what he is told.

    I don’t even think that was it. They rushed around deleting all the copies they could find off of youtube as fast as possible.

    I think it was a test of the media control. They wanted to make sure they could get away with whatever they want before moving to whatever their next phase is.


  47. Guggi
    48 | December 20, 2012 2:47 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 25 Guggi: illiteracy. I haven’t kept up with the cultures but I think there is a conspiracy theory abroad that rumor that vaccinations have nefarious purposes. It means instead of throwing a doctor into a remote area, some diplomacy and buy in needs to occur first.

    This fits for Sudan and some other parts of Africa not for Pakistan. In Pakistan Islamists like al Qaeda and the Taliban are behind this.


  48. 49 | December 20, 2012 2:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    David Frum, Joe Scarborough, Colin Powell and David Brooks come to mind.


  49. Guggi
    50 | December 20, 2012 2:49 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Watch Obama kill it. There’s no way he wants the U.S. to be successful at anything except groveling.

    On the other side he would be seen as economic genius who boosted welfare and helped the economy.


  50. buzzsawmonkey
    51 | December 20, 2012 2:49 pm

    It is my understanding, as regards the vaccination killings, that the guy who dug up bin Laden for the SEALS (and is now languishing in a Pakistani prison for doing so) was gathering intelligence under the cover of a traveling vaccine program.

    If that is the case, it is understandable why PakiTaliban™ would be killing vaccination teams.


  51. 52 | December 20, 2012 2:49 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yup, Jamie Foxx is an actor, he does what he is told.


  52. Mars
    53 | December 20, 2012 2:50 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    I was looking at stuff differently the last few days and came to the conclusion that the Foxx stuff was planned
    Well, it was bad timing — so close to Newton.

    Yeah but Newtown was unpredictable.

    Doesn’t matter Foxx has been rewarded for service to his masters.


  53. 54 | December 20, 2012 2:51 pm

    Has anyone ever though if this whole Democrat vs. Republican is a dog and pony show to divide Americans? I have been wondering sometimes if politics is just show put on so global elites can manipulate people and achieve power.


  54. Mars
    55 | December 20, 2012 2:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mars:
    Yup, Jamie Foxx is an actor, he does what he is told.

    Exactly. And the timing of all of these roles and gifts he’s being offered was just a blatant payoff.


  55. 56 | December 20, 2012 2:52 pm

    @ Mars:

    Doesn’t matter Foxx has been rewarded for service to his masters.

    He did his job!


  56. bluliner10
    57 | December 20, 2012 2:52 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I had the pleasure of calling Quentin Tarantino a jackass backstage at a Tragically Hip concert in Austin, TX. I had not yet seen pulp fiction and had no idea of who he was. He was an inglorious jackoff who nearly was pummeled to pulp by a pleasantly numb Marine…I think the feeling ended up mutual. Not that I care, I don’t think I am planning to audition for him anytime soon.


  57. eaglesoars
    58 | December 20, 2012 2:52 pm

    Hubby and went to a gun store in California (just before we moved to Idaho) to put some different stocks on my .38 Special and the sign behind the counter caught my eye. It was the typical “Salesman of the Year” sign with a picture frame that you could slide a new picture into as needed. That year’s (2010) picture was Barack Obama! I commented on it to the guy behind the counter. He turned, looked at it, and then said, “Yep, doubled, then tripled my business since he was elected. Had to hire a couple more guys!

    heh


  58. 59 | December 20, 2012 2:52 pm

    @ Mars:

    It’s not a coincidence.


  59. buzzsawmonkey
    60 | December 20, 2012 2:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Has anyone ever though if this whole Democrat vs. Republican is a dog and pony show to divide Americans? I have been wondering sometimes if politics is just show put on so global elites can manipulate people and achieve power.

    You’re starting to sound like the IWW.


  60. 61 | December 20, 2012 2:53 pm

    @ bluliner10:

    He did True Romance, but wasn’t that well known yet.


  61. RIX
    62 | December 20, 2012 2:54 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    It is my understanding, as regards the vaccination killings, that the guy who dug up bin

    Laden for the SEALS (and is now languishing in a Pakistani prison for doing so) was gathering intelligence under the cover of a traveling vaccine program.

    If that is the case, it is understandable why PakiTaliban™ would be killing vaccination teams.

    Yeah, I recall that too. The cover for the Doctor was vax.
    When is the next time that a local will cooperate after this
    guy was tossed off of the sled?


  62. Guggi
    63 | December 20, 2012 2:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yup, what nice people they are. They let their children rather become polio to punish the “Americans”. Cowards.


  63. 64 | December 20, 2012 2:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    You’re starting to sound like the IWW

    What’s that?


  64. buzzsawmonkey
    65 | December 20, 2012 2:54 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Job creation!


  65. buzzsawmonkey
    66 | December 20, 2012 2:56 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    What’s that?

    The Industrial Workers of the World—the “wobblies” or “I Won’t Works.” Joe Hill’s outfit. The anarcho-syndicalists who stood for the One Big Union, which would follow after the General Strike when the workers of the world refused to work for the bosses any more.


  66. 67 | December 20, 2012 2:58 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    The only jobs Obama has created that aren’t for the Government. But, of course, Obama is working to put those people out of work by outlawing the product that they sell. Obama won’t be satisfied until everyone who doesn’t work for the government is on unemployment.


  67. 68 | December 20, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Er, “International Workers of the World”.


  68. buzzsawmonkey
    69 | December 20, 2012 3:00 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    Er, “International Workers of the World”.

    Not unless they’ve changed their name in the last 30 years.


  69. 70 | December 20, 2012 3:00 pm

    VDH on the new racism.


  70. 71 | December 20, 2012 3:01 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Crap -- I’m wrong again…

    This is getting to be a bad habit…


  71. buzzsawmonkey
    72 | December 20, 2012 3:01 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    …and a very quick Google check indicates they haven’t.


  72. 73 | December 20, 2012 3:02 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That’s anti-Capitalist. Mine is coming from a Pro-Capitalist/Nationalist/Anti-Islamic angle. So their conclusions are wrong. But there are too many things not adding up.

    Check out the conversation between Aussie Infidel and I. He’s very well connected in New Zealand. He agrees something is not right.

    I would like to say what I think is going on, but people would dismiss it. So I stick to the conventional political viewpoint.


  73. 74 | December 20, 2012 3:05 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    That is a different Communist front group. They all sound the same because they all are the same. It is just totalitarianism dressed up in drag. Just like Obama and the Democrats.


  74. 75 | December 20, 2012 3:07 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    VDH on the new racism.

    There is a growing danger in this latest round of racial tribalism. Stirring up the pot for short-term political gain in a multiracial society is abjectly insane. If the new racialism grows unchecked, it will eventually lead to cycles of backlash and counter-backlash — and some day to something like the Balkans or Rwanda.

    That is the end game of the elites. Pit Americans of different ethnic groups against each other.

    I am starting to become convinced that the elites of both parties want to end America and place us under some Global Government. What better way than to divide us by ethnicity and race. Once again, VDH nails it!


  75. bluliner10
    76 | December 20, 2012 3:08 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I did a 3 year tour of recruiting 94-97 in Austin, TX. During that time I had the pleasure of meeting the crew of one morning show KLBJ-FM. Dale Dudley and Bob Fonseca they had a lady named Debra too, I cannot think of her last name. Dale and I were politically polar opposites, Bob was the son of retired AF Chief Master Sergeant and had a pretty good rapport. But they allowed me on the air, and I became the military advisor when Howard Stern attempted to syndicate to an opposing channel. This is a real live ‘no shit there I was’ story. That association was awesome as potential recruits knew who I was “Sgt Steve the Dudley, Bob and Debra Military Advisor”. And I got some cool bennies too. Backstage to the Black Crowes and the Tragically Hip, free passes to South by Southwest, and when the Austin Ice Bats arrived, I helped on the original commercial and got Marine Corps advertising on the boards of the fledgeling Western Professional Hockey League rinks. And I met a lot of hot women.

    One last piece on QT, Dale, Bob and Debra did a menagerie of their “greatest hits” pranks, comic bits and studio guests. On the CD liner, I was listed…right above Quentin Tarantino. The cover of the CD was Dale dressed in drag copying the Pulp Fiction movie poster. To Quentin Tarantino…Semper F U.


  76. Mars
    77 | December 20, 2012 3:09 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That’s anti-Capitalist. Mine is coming from a Pro-Capital;ist/Nationalist/Anti-Islamic angle. So their conclusions are wrong. But there are too many things not adding up.
    Check out the conversation between Aussie Infidel and I. He’s very well connected in New Zealand. He agrees something is not right.
    I would like to say what I think is going on, but people would dismiss it. So I stick to the conventional political viewpoint.

    There is one party controlling everything. The elite party. The difference is that one half is controlled by die hard socialists that want a one world communist utopia, and the other half are power hungry jackasses who will do anything to remain in Washington and go to all the right parties.


  77. 78 | December 20, 2012 3:11 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I think the Democrats want to bring an end to America, and think that they can ride the storm to take over whatever comes out of that. I disagree about the Republicans, though. There are stark differences between the parties. We’re going to see that as the drive for gun control progresses over the next couple of months. You can’t really blame the Republicans for the results of the election. Frankly, I don’t think going more for the low information voters would have made any difference. The low-info voters want the easy answer, and they are allergic to anything resembling personal responsibility. There’s no way that Romney could have won their votes without promising them the “cool, hip” responsibility-free lifestyle in their parent’s basement that Obama promised them.


  78. eaglesoars
    79 | December 20, 2012 3:12 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I would like to say what I think is going on, but people would dismiss it.

    Not all of us, Sparky. I followed that conversation between you and Aussie last nite. You two were so circumspect that it wasn’t terribly obvious to me what’s going on, but I know damn well SOMETHING is.

    Agenda 21?

    Gotta run an errand. Back in a bit.


  79. 80 | December 20, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ bluliner10:

    That was around the time I was Djing Rap in NYC. So I do know what environment you were dealing with. That’s cool you had a radio gig for a bit. ALot of primadonnas in that scene if you know what I mean.

    My favorite scene from True Romance was the Dennis Hooper and Chris Walken scene about Sicilians! :lol: Alot of people who became big were in that movie.


  80. 81 | December 20, 2012 3:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    This is where we disagree. Many of those people you dismiss did not vote for free stuff. They voted for Obama because he outreached to them and told them Republicans hate them. Because Republicans did not go for these voters, they believed them.

    I know you say Republicans are not bad, but ask yourself this. Why do Republicans support military action for the Muslim Brotherhood? If they are better than Dems, why do their foreign policy Pro-Islamic as much as the Dems.

    At the local level, yes the GOP is light years ahead of the Democrats. But at a national level, I am starting to become convinced the GOP does not exist. It’s the straw man of the Democrats.


  81. 82 | December 20, 2012 3:24 pm

    Speaking of the crisis at hand, Harry Reid has already said that the Senate isn’t going to do anything about the Fiscal Cliff:

    Senate majority leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, made his “fiscal cliff” position clear in a press conference today. “We are not going to do anything,” said Reid.

    Reid added, “We are not taking up anything they are working on over there.”

    The top Democrat in the Senate was explaining his inaction on the House plan, the proposal put forward by Republican John Boehner, the speaker of the House of Representatives. Boehner’s plan is being referred to as ‘Plan B.’

    “Boehner described his Plan B as a fallback option to prevent a sweeping tax hike when tax cuts from the administration of President George W. Bush expire at the end of the year. Sources said the Boehner measure also would include extending the current estate tax and alternative minimum tax, two steps sought by Republicans,” reports CNN.

    The ‘Plan B’ option tracks closely to a proposal put forward by Democrats earlier this year.

    But now Reid won’t even allow the Senate to vote on Boehner’s proposal.

    I’ve been saying for some time that the Democrats want to go over the Fiscal Cliff. They get tax increases and get to gut the military without having to take a vote on it. What could be better for them? Boehner was an idiot for not simply refusing to raise the Debt Ceiling without substantive cuts, and I mean taking spending back to around 1996 levels. Instead, Obama is going to spend upwards of two trillion mor ethan we take in this year, and he is going to gut the military and raise taxes. And the Republicans will probably allow the Democrats to get away with this.


  82. 83 | December 20, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The media will blame Republicans. The Democrats will not get any damage.


  83. 84 | December 20, 2012 3:31 pm

    New Thread.


  84. Mars
    85 | December 20, 2012 3:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    The media will blame Republicans. The Democrats will not get any damage.

    Oh yeah, the media is already put the frame in place. Republican “obstructionism”. Totally disregarding that Boehner just offered them everything they asked for last time.


  85. 86 | December 20, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Even on the pro-Islamist stuff you are mistaken. You take the blatherings of John McCain and Lindsey Graham as being indicitive of wht the Republicans as a whole think. I do not believe that this is the truth. Take the Libyan fiasco for example. If Obama had thought he could get his military adventurism through both the House and Senate, he would have brought it to a vote. He didn’t have the votes, and probably some Democrats would have even voted against him. Certainly most Republicans in the House would have voted against him, and he didn’t want to lose the vote. If the Republicans were really just a straw man for the the Democrats, Obama woudl have gotten approval for his actions. It would have shielded him some when it inevitibly blew up, as it did in Benghazi. Now, I agree that the Republican leadership is more interested in getting invited to tony Washington parties than they are winning or principles, but that is corruption, not simply being owned by the Democrats.


  86. 87 | December 20, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yup.


  87. 88 | December 20, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I am going to do a thread on this subject. Should make for an interesting conversation.


  88. buzzsawmonkey
    89 | December 20, 2012 3:43 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    But there are too many things not adding up.

    Check out the conversation between Aussie Infidel and I. He’s very well connected in New Zealand. He agrees something is not right.

    I would like to say what I think is going on, but people would dismiss it. So I stick to the conventional political viewpoint.

    I think you and Aussie are a little off base.

    The problem is that there are three groups in politics, in the guise of two:

    1) The far left—which, whether or not it is still organized under a central committee somewhere, is ideologically unified enough to know what it wants to do and where it wants to go. They run the Democrats here now;

    2) The Perk Party, half of which is with the Democrats and half of which is with the Republicans. The members of the Perk Party don’t give a shit what happens to anyone, as long as they get theirs;

    3) The conservatives. These are a mixed bunch, some being more social-conservative, some less so—and “social conservative” can mean a number of different things. This means that the conservatives are the most divided, the least unified, both temperamentally and by reason of their holding to different strains of conservatism. Plus, because they see human beings as individual actors, they tend not to see people as the cogs in a movement which the far-left ideologues are. They don’t understand the nature of the enemy and are temperamentally ill-suited to dealing with an enemy of that kind, anyway.


  89. 90 | December 20, 2012 3:49 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Exactly as I see it. The Right isn’t unified because we are a collection of individuals, not merely part of the collective. So when Rodan and I disagree on social policy, neither of us has the right or authority to demand the other “get with the program”. On the Left there is an over-riding uniformity of thought and process. You don’t have pro-life or pro-gun Democrats anymore, whereas you have pro-abortion and pro-gun contrl Republicans (though these are more in the Perks Party than they are Republicans).


  90. Mars
    91 | December 20, 2012 3:53 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Exactly as I see it. The Right isn’t unified because we are a collection of individuals, not merely part of the collective. So when Rodan and I disagree on social policy, neither of us has the right or authority to demand the other “get with the program”. On the Left there is an over-riding uniformity of thought and process. You don’t have pro-life or pro-gun Democrats anymore, whereas you have pro-abortion and pro-gun contrl Republicans (though these are more in the Perks Party than they are Republicans).

    It isn’t that the left doesn’t have pro-life or pro-gun dems, they do, but they are often marginalized.

    What the left has instead of individuals, is special interest groups. On the right we all have our own ideas and contributions. On the left they all sublimate their own beliefs in order to fit with whatever special interest group fits their one big issue.


  91. 92 | December 20, 2012 3:59 pm

    Mars wrote:

    It isn’t that the left doesn’t have pro-life or pro-gun dems, they do, but they are often marginalized.

    Name one pro-life Democrat at the national level. Bart Stupak was the last, and when the rubber met the road he cast the sdeciding vote in favor of ObamaCare and its abortion mandate in spite of being “pro-life”. He used being “pro-life” to sucker the voters in his state until he really needed to show his true colors, but when the time came he was no more pro-life than Nancy Pelosie. The same is no doubt true of the so-called “pro-gun” Democrats. They’ll be showing their true colors over the next few weeks, I expect, unless Obama decides to drop such a politically charged hot-potato. He may. The last time the Democrats forced gun control through the legislature they controlled both houses of COngress, and they promptly lost control of both houses of congress. We’ll se if they remember that lesson.


  92. heysoos
    93 | December 20, 2012 4:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Has anyone ever though if this whole Democrat vs. Republican is a dog and pony show to divide Americans? I have been wondering sometimes if politics is just show put on so global elites can manipulate people and achieve power.

    that’s exactly what it is


  93. eaglesoars
    94 | December 20, 2012 4:04 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Name one pro-life Democrat at the national level.

    Bob Casey but I don’t think he’s around anymore.


  94. randian
    95 | December 21, 2012 3:14 am

    Am I the only person whose teeth grate when Obama uses the word “folks”? I can’t imagine he actually speaks like that in private.


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