Let me be the first to offer everyone a very Merry Christmas.
There will be no lecture this Saturday or next. However, there is required reading.
A Reading on the Orthodox Church
Essentially the Orthodox Church shares much with the other Christian Churches in the belief that God revealed himself in Jesus Christ, and a belief in the incarnation of Christ, his crucifixion and resurrection. The Orthodox Church differs substantially in the way of life and worship.
This is testable material, and quite well written.







I took quite enough tests on religion at St. Thomas Moore, thank you very much.
That aside, however, a very Merry Christmas to all -- I gotta go do some inevitable last-minute shopping. Then I suppose I should clean something, anything. There’s no end to that, after all. At least TGoP got her new recliner delivered yesterday.
from another thread
lehman’s non electric catalog ON-LINE!
good stuff in there.
(we are not affiliated in any way but our family use a lot of amish goods.)
couldn’t help it.
Merry Christmas all. The girls have bronchitis, so it will be a quiet one in our household with a few coughs thrown in. Hopefully we’ll have better luck on the 7th.
Merry Christmas! I am on my way to South Carolina. It isn’t going to be fun. My dad is in pretty rough shape. We are probably going to have to move him to a long term care facility. Oh well. Hope everyone is having a good one.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
humidifiers.
and vicks.
С Рождеством Христовым!
@ Iron Fist:
oh man.
go look at the places first and talk to the nurses and staff. that will give you the best feel for the place.
dont give the place any heads up on that interview tho. make it a surprise.
@ coldwarrior:
Thanks! I am totally at sea here.
Iron Fist wrote:
walk around and look at the floors, the corners, the rear of the buildings, the staff’s desks. the employee area will reveal much detail. use your nose as well.
interview the staff who will be taking care of dad.
our case managers deal with a lot of ipr/snf’s so i have heard the horror stories and the praise.
@ Iron Fist:
That’s rough. Prayers for you and yours.
No confirmation in the orthodox church, I noticed.
Bumr50 wrote:
dont need it. chrismation covers that at baptism or is used for converts who have already been baptized in another christian faith. ‘born again’ is also not needed as chrismation makes one:
@ coldwarrior:
and wow, if you could talk to some family of patients that would be very useful. but probably wont happen as the hipaa laws pretty much squash that idea.
Merry Christmas to you all! I’m going down to Mom’s today for dinner; my brother leaves for FL tomorrow. that, and I get to try her new Internet connection!
@ coldwarrior:
A two-fer!
As a Roman Catholic, I was a bit uneasy about the Sacrament of Confirmation as it occurred for me at an age where I was questioning everything (14-15) and honestly felt pressured into it.
OTOH, I got to see (then) Bishop Wuerl getting out of his car and putting his crosier together out of a briefcase!
Bumr50 wrote:
cardinal now.
he’s a good guy
@ coldwarrior:
And then there are the famous Muslim sacraments, such as burning people for blasphemy:
@ lobo91:
I just don’t understand why we can’t find common ground with these
superstitious savages.
Maybe we need to make more of an effort./
@ lobo91:
From the required reading.
RIX wrote:
I’m sure that’s it…
Bumr50 wrote:
that and bombing the serbs.
Rest homes for the elderly. visit often. make friends with other patients and their families. compare information and experiences.
Merry Christmas to all.
I am extremely angry today. I have decided to dump a friend. Permanently. For refusing to listen to facts let alone reason. Here’s the account of it and how i got to making it….
I follow Crusader Rabbit (the one from down under who is not the CR who posts here) and read his link to Jew Without A Gun. This is an account of the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict in 1992. Please read it. It’s a harrowing story of one man, his wife, and their two children got out of an area of active rioting to the relative safety of their home and became a good weapon-owning Conservative. it’s a good reminder of what we face if we let them take our personal weapons. i know no one here needs reminding, but maybe someone will see it.
I posted at CRs in reaction…
Anybody think I’m wrong to cut her loose?
Heads up.
ht -- Twitchy
Pretty strange. When I try to go to The Daily Caller website, I get a malware alert from Google and I can’t enter the site. However, I can get into the site through IE.
@ Bumr50:
Beat me by that much.
@ lobo91:
another mob of crazed, demon-possessed lost souls. It’s coming. It’s only a matter of time.
Kirly wrote:
Nope.
Ignorance can be helped.
Willful ignorance, not so much. And it’s a disturbing trend in society, especially with facts and information never closer or more accessible.
@ Bumr50:
thanks.
i find it a confusing and lonely world surrounded by people like this. if they get their way, it’ll be LA riots all the time. we already have the violent flash mobs. it’s just a matter of time.
@ huckfunn:
Since it’s only affecting Chrome, I wonder if it’s more of an Android bug.
Do those even exist?
Bumr50 wrote:
I’m thinking that someone who doesn’t like The Daily Caller put some kind of hex on their site. It works, slowly, in IE.
@ Kirly:
This shooting has moved the mainstream “conversation” into the dangerous territory of including all semi-auto small arms into the “assault weapon” (another redundancy, like “hate crime”) category, IMHO.
@ Kirly:
It’s pure closed-mindedness.
Once a person has insulated themselves from facts, there can no longer be meaningful two-way discussion.
Bumr50 wrote:
From NY Gov. Cuomo:
In the interview, Mr. Cuomo did not offer specifics about the measures he might propose, but, while discussing assault weapons, he said: “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”
@ Kirly:
I have friends and family that are a full 180 degrees away from me on a number of issues, including this one. Never dumped a one of them for it. What I have dumped those who were always glad to hear from me -- provided I was the one to initiate contact. Ran an experiment once on two of these folks, people I had know for decades. Not a peep out of either one for years now. Some friends, eh?
That’s not really advice, BTW, just a related tale and completely anecdotal. Everybody has to make their own way through such matters.
@ huckfunn:
Saw that.
It’s sad to me that someone in such a powerful position in America can say that without fear of being run out of town on a rail.
Unbridled and unapologetic tyranny.
@ Bumr50:
indeed. last night my last remaining paternal uncle who i kind of have to tolerate also said that the CT school shooter used an automatic weapon. he argued and said it was on CNN. i used that to illustrate why I don’t trust or watch television news -- they LIED or they are too stupid to know the difference. He at least listened to reason when I told him what sort of gun it was and that it was indeed a SEMI-auto.
it’s enough to make a person want to go live in the wilderness away from all the crazies.
@ huckfunn:
Interesting theory from a commenter (Ken Danieli) at Twitchy:
Mike C. wrote:
oh yeah, i have had several of those too. one sided so-called friendships. i don’t need ‘em.
RIX wrote:
There’s plenty of common ground to be utilized in our relations with the World’s muslims. They want to get to their paradise and we as good citizens of the same World should be doing everything we can to help them get there.
huckfunn wrote:
and all the millions and millions of weapons purchased through private sales, like all of mine, will go un-permitted permanently. or, until some idiot down the line turns them in voluntarily.
@ huckfunn:
cumo just wrecked any chance he has at national politics.
oh wait, the gop will be too stupid/spineless to bring up his confiscation comments.
cumo will be president.
@ Kirly:
@ coldwarrior:
Got this email from the NRA this morning:
The Battle is Not Coming--It is Here! You Must Remain Engaged!
Iron Fist wrote:
oh jeez. I’m so sorry. I have no advice for you. Mom had to go to rehab for a month once -- but my BIL is a physician in town so she got the best -- and hospice was a HUGE help. We were able to keep her at home and she died in her own bed surrounded by all of us.
Kirly wrote:
You’re not alone dear. You just got about 8000/day new friends according to the NRA!! And if you think about it, your former friend is to be pitied. She has what is known as learned-helplessness. Those of us who are immune to that bull really make these people feel threatened -- like prey vs. predator. So their answer is not to become self-reliant, it’s to declaw the rest of us.
Hey CW, I tried to click to the Saints page -- access denied, some kind error. It was quite interesting reading, tho, thanks!
@ huckfunn:
why i wont vote for gov christie if he is nominated.
period.
even though my gunz were lost to a lahar after the blizzard and volcano of 93, i still hold the 2d amendment as my only final red line. if a politician cant trust me to enjoy the 2d amendment, i cant trust him with my vote.
eaglesoars wrote:
hmmm…didnt click on that. dunno???
i’m glad you enjoyed the read.
Mike C. wrote:
I had a girlfriend that I met at the Swamp -- she lived in the area. She went thru some tough times and we did everything we could to help. But somehow, she ‘forgot’ lunch dates (she had to play golf) and when she moved didn’t have time to get together to say goodbye because she had to see her family -- whom she hates. Stuff like that. Yeah, she got dumped.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well said. I see that the supposedly “pro-gun” Senator Manchin (D-WV) is now on the gun control band wagon. I knew that as soon as he was re-elected we would see his true colors. I don’t think that his new position will go over well with the ‘Neers.
@ huckfunn:
‘neers will make him pay for that.
eaglesoars wrote:
8000/day? not a bad haul. thanks for pointing that out. it’s giving me an idea.
yes, i pity the old woman. i do. always have actually. i helped her because her stupid family refused to. when the shit hits the fan, she can depend on them. they don’t even keep any food in their house (bring in something prepared or eat out every day) so they’ll all be part of the weeping, wailing, and starving fools.
@ coldwarrior:
Hope so, but it will be another six years.
a glimpse into our economic future?
huckfunn wrote:
the stupid party will ‘forget’ to bring it up.
@ coldwarrior:
I view the 2nd as a kind of touchstone. Tell me what a politician thinks on that subject, and I’ll learn all I need to know about him/her. I can deduce most everything out from there.
coldwarrior wrote:
Add one more reason to the growing list of why the Seventeenth Amendment needs to be repealed.
Mike C. wrote:
that’s exactly right. hence my dumping the former friend -- i don’t trust people who want me disarmed. same concept.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
that was just one more step toward mob rule
New Thread up in 10 minutes.
mao was very correct when he said:
Every Communist must grasp the truth, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
“Problems of War and Strategy” (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 224.
@ Kirly:
and it really is a ‘trust thing’
Kirly wrote:
That was a huge step in the wrong direction. If we really want to restore the Republic the Seventeenth Amendment has to go.
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s damn near impossible to intimidate an armed population and the Government will go broke trying to bribe everyone.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
lets hope so. the sooner the better
We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.
“Problems of War and Strategy” (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 225.
What I totally fail to understand is why the Progressives embrace appeasement and shun deterrence. And “They” do this at all levels from International to the Personal.
I visited an Orthodox church here in Wichita a couple of years ago. Very different style than I’m used to. Very formal & beautiful. It’s something I certainly learned from, but I don’t think it’d be something I could do on a weekly basis. I would like to go back, though.
mfhorn wrote:
very very formal.