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NFL Week Penultimate!

by Carolina Girl ( 155 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at December 23rd, 2012 - 12:00 pm

Isn’t that cooler than just saying NFL Week 16? Admit it. You didn’t think I knew words like that. Now might be a good time to do fun with NFL Math where we discuss the various playoff permutations (see another big “P” word! – I got a million of them [Rodan thinking - "and you're going to try to use them all, aren't you? Next year I'm giving this column to Song-and-Dance Man"]) . So here we go –

A little Christmas cheer for the gentlemen…

AFC
Houston, New England and Denver have clinched divisions; Houston clinches first-round bye with either a win OR a loss by Denver or the Pats. Houston clinches home-field with win and Denver and Pats loss.
Denver clinches a bye with a win AND a Pats loss.
Ravens clinch division with win or with a tie AND Bengals loss. Will face wild card no matter what. Question is – who?
Colts clinch a spot with a win OR Steeler or Bengal loss
Bengals clinch playoff spot with win.
I think. There are a couple of good pretzel logics in the hunt by they involved this team wins plus a loss and a tie and this team gets lost on the interstate and doesn’t make it to the stadium. Many will be disappointed.

NFC
Falcons and Packers have clinched their divisions.
Atlanta has clinched the No. 1 seed with their win over Detroit last night.  And mega congrats to Megatron for his ”phantasmical” capture of the single season receiving record from Jerry Rice.  Still – 26 years is a long time for a record!
49ers clinch division with win and first-round bye with Packers loss
Giants clinch playoff spot with 1) NYG win + CHI loss + MIN loss + DAL loss + WAS loss or tie OR 2) NYG win + CHI loss + MIN loss + WAS loss + DAL tie

You may want to grab a beer for this next one:

Seahawks clinch spot with (are you ready?) 1) SEA win OR 2) CHI loss + MIN loss + DAL loss or tie + WAS tie; 3) SEA tie + NYG loss + CHI loss or tie OR 4) SEA tie + NYG loss + MIN loss or tie OR 5) SEA tie + CHI loss or tie + MIN loss or tie OR 6) SEA tie + DAL loss + WAS loss + CHI loss or tie OR 7) SEA tie + DAL loss + WAS loss + MIN loss or tie OR 8) CHI loss + MIN loss + WAS loss  (I blocked and copied that from the NFL website – let those overpaid sports writers do all the work)

Here are the matchups this week.  As you can see from the above, several of these have real playoff repercussions (okay, not a “p” word but pretty good, huh?  [Rodan - "I swear, whoever gave her that word-a-day calendar is gonna pay!" (looks accusingly at Speranza and M)]

Raiders @ Panthers

Saints @ Cowboys

Titans @ Packers

Vikings @ Texans

Patriots @ Jaguars

Colts @ Chiefs

Bills @ Dolphins

Chargers @ Jets

Redskins @ Eagles

Bengals @ Steelers

Rams @ Buccaneers

Browns @ Broncos

Bears @ Cardinals

Giants @ Ravens

49ers @ Seattle (I can only imagine the sobriety checkpoints going up around town tonight)

And Merry Christmas to all and to all at least one great touchdown pass thrown by your favorite quarterback.

 

**CW addition:**

It’s the 40th anniversary of the Immaculate Reception.

 

 

A split-second‘s worth of improvisational genius by Franco Harris turned around a game that was lost, a franchise that had gone nowhere for 40 years and the consciousness of a city just beginning to undergo seismic upheaval.

But for years, Harris never realized what it meant when he transformed an all-but-certain Terry Bradshaw incompletion 40 years ago Sunday into what is universally regarded as the greatest play in NFL history.

Even if that pass had ricocheted harmlessly off the Tartan Turf at Three Rivers Stadium and not into his outstretched hands just below the knees, Harris would have been a Hall of Famer and the greatest running back in Steelers history.

The Steelers probably would have won four Super Bowls in six years, still the greatest run in pro football history. And Pittsburgh‘s transformation from a big-shouldered city built upon heavy industry into one with a good head on its shoulders guiding an economy based upon health care, higher education, computer wizardry and banking would have taken place.

Franco Harris made the Immaculate Reception, but the Immaculate Reception, he said, did not make him.

“At the time, that play didn‘t hold any significance to me, none whatsoever,” Harris said. “It didn‘t even enter my mind. … I tell people that we really didn‘t reflect on it during that decade. It just wasn‘t at the top of your mind because we were doing so many other great things that it wasn‘t really part of much conversation.”

But anyone who saw the Immaculate Reception almost instantly recognized that they witnessed something astonishing. The late Steve Sabol, head of NFL Films, once said there wasn‘t another play like it in his library of hundreds of thousands of plays.

Physics tests performed at Carnegie Mellon University more than a decade ago and an unearthed NBC-TV video of the game — which shows the deflection more clearly than the much-viewed NFL Films version — point clearly to Tatum as the man who created the ricochet.

Many who were there said they never heard a noise like that in Three Rivers‘ 40-year-old history — the pent-up release of four decades of Steelers futility and frustration. The Steelers won, 13-7, and after assembling what is considered the greatest draft class in NFL history two years later, they began their Super Bowl run

 

If Tatum wasn’t such a head hunter and just broke up the pass, the game is over and the Raiders win. Too bad though. He, and the ‘Criminal Element’ Raiders, got exactly what they deserved.

 

 

 

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  1. 1 | December 23, 2012 12:34 pm


  2. heysoos
    2 | December 23, 2012 1:03 pm

    another Cowboy game, another heart attack


  3. 3 | December 23, 2012 1:34 pm

    Thank Goodness the Loi-ins already lost….


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | December 23, 2012 1:36 pm

    jeeze…cheap call against da stillers.


  5. 5 | December 23, 2012 1:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Most excellent addition to the thread, CW — however, needed more “P” words.


  6. 6 | December 23, 2012 1:42 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    jeeze…cheap call against da stillers.

    Can there really be a “Cheap Call” against da stiller???


  7. The Osprey
    7 | December 23, 2012 1:46 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nice. A Heavy Metal Christmas Carol.

    “God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen” is probably my favorite Christmas Carol.

    Thanks Dorian.


  8. 8 | December 23, 2012 1:47 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    jeeze…cheap call against da stillers.

    Can there really be a “Cheap Call” against da stiller???

    And don’t give me none of that “shut up and play Guitar” crap, I already did that and none of ya’ll even cared… :twisted: :razz:


  9. 9 | December 23, 2012 1:48 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nice. A Heavy Metal Christmas Carol.
    “God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen” is probably my favorite Christmas Carol.
    Thanks Dorian.

    :grin: Ya, it’s mine as well…:grin:


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | December 23, 2012 1:49 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    jeeze…cheap call against da stillers.

    Can there really be a “Cheap Call” against da stiller???

    yes.

    and this one was very cheap.


  11. coldwarrior
    11 | December 23, 2012 1:49 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    i sure did. me and the girls are watching it now.


  12. 12 | December 23, 2012 1:52 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    jeeze…cheap call against da stillers.
    Can there really be a “Cheap Call” against da stiller???

    yes.
    and this one was very cheap.

    It’s da Stillers… They should start the game with 12 penalty flags thrown against them before the first play even takes place… :razz:


  13. 13 | December 23, 2012 1:58 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I cared. No one cared that I cared. I’m currently conducting a psychological experiment where I watch multiple performances of differnt interpretations of “A Christmas Carol” to determine which is most artistically pleasing and worth waiting for.

    I’m very disappointed that no one thought to show “Mr. Magoo’s Christmas Carol” to allow it entry for consideration.


  14. 14 | December 23, 2012 2:01 pm

    Dallas goes ahead. Commercial for preachy Matt Damon movie designed to demonize energy companies (must be a memo from Obama). Will it make any money? Probably not. But will every award known to man.


  15. huckfunn
    15 | December 23, 2012 2:05 pm

    Wow! Dez Bryant is looking good today. He may be a maniacal thug who occasionally beats up his mom and stiffs jewelry stores for hundred$ of thousand$, but man… can he catch that ball! :twisted:


  16. coldwarrior
    16 | December 23, 2012 2:07 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Most excellent addition to the thread, CW — however, needed more “P” words.

    that play was a prognostication of the pummeling that the pittsburgh players would perpetuate on the league


  17. huckfunn
    17 | December 23, 2012 2:09 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Most excellent addition to the thread, CW — however, needed more “P” words.

    that play was a prognostication of the pummeling that the pittsburgh players would perpetuate on the league

    P-tui


  18. coldwarrior
    18 | December 23, 2012 2:11 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    jeeze…cheap call against da stillers.
    Can there really be a “Cheap Call” against da stiller???
    yes.
    and this one was very cheap.

    It’s da Stillers… They should start the game with 12 penalty flags thrown against them before the first play even takes place…

    they do

    the mel blount rule

    the hines ward rule

    steelers play hard and the league makes rules against them. godel has a real hate for the black and gold.


  19. 19 | December 23, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    A true hero for the youth of America…


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | December 23, 2012 2:11 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I’m very disappointed that no one thought to show “Mr. Magoo’s Christmas Carol” to allow it entry for consideration.

    my favorite


  21. huckfunn
    21 | December 23, 2012 2:17 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    A true hero for the youth of America…

    A genuine roll model.


  22. 22 | December 23, 2012 2:19 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    The Oakland Raiders can sympathize — the “Tuck Rule.”


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | December 23, 2012 2:20 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    The Oakland Raiders can sympathize — the “Tuck Rule.”

    anything to get whiny brady the victory.


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | December 23, 2012 2:27 pm

    Mel Blount is arguably one of the greatest cornerbacks in NFL history whom was part of the ferocious “Steel Curtain” defense in Pittsburgh. In fact, at 6’3″ and 205 lbs, he absolutely abused opposing wide receivers to the point that few receivers ever had the chance to receive against him.

    Therefore, the NFL decided to impose a rule that prevented any defensive player from jamming an offensive player five yards past the line of scrimmage. If the defensive player failed to do so, then he would be charged with defensive pass interference.

    The rule, known as the “Mel Blount Rule,” has dramatically had a huge influence on the opening of the passing game.


  25. heysoos
    25 | December 23, 2012 2:32 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Blount was the most ruthless players I’ve ever seen…generally, that’s a decent rule, but too ticky tacky at times…then it’s interference from that spot…in college it’s 15 yards, as it should be….that’s the biggest impact of the Blount Rule…field position


  26. heysoos
    26 | December 23, 2012 2:36 pm

    the Dallas-NO game is gonna get real interesting…two very potent offenses…I always keep my defib pack handy


  27. coldwarrior
    27 | December 23, 2012 2:36 pm

    @ heysoos:

    i like 10 or 15 yards. that would be ok


  28. coldwarrior
    28 | December 23, 2012 2:39 pm

    Egypt’s new Sharia-based constitution has been approved in a second round of voting, the ruling Muslim Brotherhood party said. The country’s opposition leveled accusations of fraud, saying it will appeal the referendum results and form a new party.

    The new charter was approved by 64 percent of Egyptian voters in a “resounding victory,” state news agency al-Ahram reported on Sunday. The preliminary tallies were calculated from reports by polling station officials. Egypt’s election committee will confirm the final results on Monday

    enjoy your new hell


  29. heysoos
    29 | December 23, 2012 2:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    i like 10 or 15 yards. that would be ok

    it really should be…you add 30yrds or whatever from the line of scrimmage is way out of proportion for a harmless bump trying to keep your balance…and it happens in every single game


  30. brookly red
    30 | December 23, 2012 2:43 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Egypt’s new Sharia-based constitution has been approved in a second round of voting, the ruling Muslim Brotherhood party said. The country’s opposition leveled accusations of fraud, saying it will appeal the referendum results and form a new party.

    The new charter was approved by 64 percent of Egyptian voters in a “resounding victory,” state news agency al-Ahram reported on Sunday. The preliminary tallies were calculated from reports by polling station officials. Egypt’s election committee will confirm the final results on Monday

    enjoy your new hell

    I see a military take over in their near future.


  31. coldwarrior
    31 | December 23, 2012 2:44 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I see a military take over in their near future.

    might be the only thing that saves the antiquities. the rest of that rat hole can rot for all i care


  32. brookly red
    32 | December 23, 2012 2:49 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    I see a military take over in their near future.

    might be the only thing that saves the antiquities. the rest of that rat hole can rot for all i care

    no argument here.


  33. 33 | December 23, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ brookly red:
    @ coldwarrior:

    They’ll fight over how to properly sing/chant The Muslim National Anthem™….


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | December 23, 2012 3:00 pm

    Well Done Harry!

    Prince Harry in Taliban ‘kill’ mission
    Prince Harry is thought to have killed his first Taliban fighters as he flew to the rescue of a patrol that had come under attack.


  35. heysoos
    35 | December 23, 2012 3:01 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    @ coldwarrior:
    They’ll fight over how to properly sing/chant The Muslim National Anthem™….

    I’ll say one thing about Egyptians, they sure do like to protest…either the MB will impose draconian measures or Egypt will tear itself apart…I vote for the latter


  36. 36 | December 23, 2012 3:02 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    I’m very disappointed that no one thought to show “Mr. Magoo’s Christmas Carol” to allow it entry for consideration.

    my favorite

    Mine too!

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Mel Blount is arguably one of the greatest cornerbacks in NFL history whom was part of the ferocious “Steel Curtain” defense in Pittsburgh. In fact, at 6’3″ and 205 lbs, he absolutely abused opposing wide receivers to the point that few receivers ever had the chance to receive against him.
    Therefore, the NFL decided to impose a rule that prevented any defensive player from jamming an offensive player five yards past the line of scrimmage. If the defensive player failed to do so, then he would be charged with defensive pass interference.
    The rule, known as the “Mel Blount Rule,” has dramatically had a huge influence on the opening of the passing game.

    Stupid rule, IMO.

    The rules and the refs are slowly taking the oxygen out of the game.


  37. brookly red
    37 | December 23, 2012 3:05 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    @ coldwarrior:
    They’ll fight over how to properly sing/chant The Muslim National Anthem™….

    I’ll say one thing about Egyptians, they sure do like to protest…either the MB will impose draconian measures or Egypt will tear itself apart…I vote for the latter

    I don’t think it is either/or I think both, one leading to the other… lets see them start with gun control


  38. 38 | December 23, 2012 3:17 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mohammedan Brotherhood blew up the Great Pyramids right after they impose their Sharia on the rest of the population….


  39. brookly red
    39 | December 23, 2012 3:34 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mohammedan Brotherhood blew up the Great Pyramids right after they impose their Sharia on the rest of the population….

    I expect to see an influx of Coptics coming to the US soon.


  40. 40 | December 23, 2012 3:40 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I expect to see an influx of Coptics coming to the US soon.

    That is if Obama will let them in. I could see him claiming that they aren’t legitimate refugees, seeing as how they are fleeing his favorite religion.


  41. coldwarrior
    41 | December 23, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ brookly red:

    the orthodox churches round here are trying to sponsor some families


  42. song_and_dance_man
    42 | December 23, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Tthe sock hanging out of the drawer is a nice touch. BTW I’m at work and can’t watch the vid.


  43. song_and_dance_man
    43 | December 23, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Rodan thinking -- “and you’re going to try to use them all, aren’t you? Next year I’m giving this column to Song-and-Dance Man

    Are you suggesting he’s a bit perturbed?


  44. brookly red
    44 | December 23, 2012 3:46 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ coldwarrior:

    OK, here’s the ticket, if anybody asks we say that they are Mexicans.


  45. 45 | December 23, 2012 3:46 pm

    Damn but Houston is being humiliated at home by the Vikes.


  46. heysoos
    46 | December 23, 2012 3:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    I expect to see an influx of Coptics coming to the US soon.
    That is if Obama will let them in. I could see him claiming that they aren’t legitimate refugees, seeing as how they are fleeing his favorite religion.

    but illegals up from Mexico are…this admin just makes shit up, there is no consistency in policy


  47. 47 | December 23, 2012 3:52 pm

    Crossing my fingers for the Redskins….


  48. heysoos
    48 | December 23, 2012 3:54 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Crossing my fingers for the Redskins….

    me too, the Cowboys have been terrible the second half…fumble, dropped passes


  49. coldwarrior
    49 | December 23, 2012 4:03 pm

    pretty good documentary


  50. The Osprey
    50 | December 23, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I like the animated British one with the voice of Alistair Sim as Scrooge.
    The Ghosts in that one can be a bit frightening for the wee ones though.


  51. 51 | December 23, 2012 4:14 pm

    I’m a fan of the George C. Scott one as well.


  52. 52 | December 23, 2012 4:17 pm

    Oh please -- Saints defense -- all I want for Christmas is NO OVERTIME.


  53. coldwarrior
    54 | December 23, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ brookly red:

    i would never expect a subject to understand the rights and responsibilities of a citizen


  54. huckfunn
    55 | December 23, 2012 4:21 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Oh please — Saints defense — all I want for Christmas is NO OVERTIME.

    OT!


  55. heysoos
    56 | December 23, 2012 4:22 pm

    unbelievable…Cowboys tie the game…
    I tell you these guys are gonna kill me yet


  56. coldwarrior
  57. coldwarrior
    58 | December 23, 2012 4:24 pm

    horay! steelers lose.

    we werent going to go far in the playoffs anyway. get some higher draft picks out of this very very rare losing season


  58. brookly red
    59 | December 23, 2012 4:26 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Cornel West: ‘Coward’ Obama Doesn’t Care When ‘Black Folk’ Get Shot, Only When ‘Vanilla’ Children Do.

    and the professor is correct on that one.

    well to be fair O does not regard human life in racial terms only on his ability to control it.


  59. heysoos
    60 | December 23, 2012 4:26 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    horay! steelers lose.
    we werent going to go far in the playoffs anyway. get some higher draft picks out of this very very rare losing season

    Ben will be back…that means a lot…one of my all time favorite QBs
    but I hate the Steelers


  60. heysoos
    61 | December 23, 2012 4:27 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Cornel West: ‘Coward’ Obama Doesn’t Care When ‘Black Folk’ Get Shot, Only When ‘Vanilla’ Children Do.
    and the professor is correct on that one.

    well to be fair O does not regard human life in racial terms only on his ability to control it.

    very astute observation


  61. brookly red
    62 | December 23, 2012 4:27 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    i would never expect a subject to understand the rights and responsibilities of a citizen

    I thought we explained it to them once… maybe we need to do it again :)


  62. lobo91
    63 | December 23, 2012 4:28 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Cornel West: ‘Coward’ Obama Doesn’t Care When ‘Black Folk’ Get Shot, Only When ‘Vanilla’ Children Do.
    and the professor is correct on that one.

    I’m not sure that Obama actually “cares” about either. Suburban white kids dying are more useful for his purposes, though.


  63. 64 | December 23, 2012 4:29 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Piss Morgan is an asshole using dead children for ratings -- just like he used the shooting victims in Colorado earlier this year. Piss never debates the issue -- people give him facts and he ridicules them and calls them idiots. Ted Nugent schooled him but good -- at one point telling to “shut his limey trap for a second.”


  64. brookly red
    65 | December 23, 2012 4:31 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Piss Morgan is an asshole using dead children for ratings — just like he used the shooting victims in Colorado earlier this year. Piss never debates the issue — people give him facts and he ridicules them and calls them idiots. Ted Nugent schooled him but good — at one point telling to “shut his limey trap for a second.”

    deporting him would be a hoot


  65. coldwarrior
    66 | December 23, 2012 4:31 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Ted Nugent schooled him but good — at one point telling to “shut his limey trap for a second.”

    uncle ted is a straight shooter


  66. 67 | December 23, 2012 4:32 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Then again, the Обама supporters would likely go for some sort of “slush“….


  67. 68 | December 23, 2012 4:33 pm

    Okay Haysoos -- here we go. We’ll share a cup of Xmas cheer when this game is over!


  68. coldwarrior
    69 | December 23, 2012 4:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Cornel West: ‘Coward’ Obama Doesn’t Care When ‘Black Folk’ Get Shot, Only When ‘Vanilla’ Children Do.
    and the professor is correct on that one.
    I’m not sure that Obama actually “cares” about either. Suburban white kids dying are more useful for his purposes, though.

    well sure, because the hood dwellers sure dont care about the violence. its part of their culture. and since they cant be bothered the only way to wee wee in the punch is to do it when the krakaz get murdered in the burbs.


  69. 70 | December 23, 2012 4:34 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Piss Morgan is an asshole using dead children for ratings — just like he used the shooting victims in Colorado earlier this year. Piss never debates the issue — people give him facts and he ridicules them and calls them idiots. Ted Nugent schooled him but good — at one point telling to “shut his limey trap for a second.”

    What else would you expect from someone who works for the Caliphate News Network?


  70. 71 | December 23, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Checka U E-mail!


  71. yenta-fada
    72 | December 23, 2012 4:38 pm

    Anti-government facebook posts get military vet detained.

    http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/profiles/blogs/outcry-after-military-veteran-detained-for-anti-government

    Heads up.


  72. 73 | December 23, 2012 4:40 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Morgan thinks he’ll make himself and his show on this issue. He’s wrong. Other than the uber libturds, he’s pissing people off -- American’s are NOT in favor of tighter gun control and they REALLY resent assholes from other countries -- especially smug self-righteous POS’s from oountries that have “gun control” and an 89% increase in gun crime.


  73. heysoos
    74 | December 23, 2012 4:40 pm

    I just wanna die…I’m dead


  74. yenta-fada
    75 | December 23, 2012 4:40 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Piss Morgan is an asshole using dead children for ratings — just like he used the shooting victims in Colorado earlier this year. Piss never debates the issue — people give him facts and he ridicules them and calls them idiots. Ted Nugent schooled him but good — at one point telling to “shut his limey trap for a second.”

    Haven’t seen the ‘Lincoln’ film, but they obviously couldn’t FIND an American to play Abe Lincoln. Only a lefty Brit could do it.


  75. coldwarrior
    76 | December 23, 2012 4:41 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Anti-government facebook posts get military vet detained.
    http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/profiles/blogs/outcry-after-military-veteran-detained-for-anti-government
    Heads up.


    Raub’s supporters characterized the detention as an arrest, complaining he was handcuffed and whisked away in a police cruiser without being served a warrant or read his rights. But authorities say it wasn’t an arrest because Raub doesn’t face criminal charges.

    huh? looks like an arrest to me. so do they get to hold him for 7 days like the brits used to do in ireland?


  76. coldwarrior
    77 | December 23, 2012 4:42 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I just wanna die…I’m dead

    did yer boyz lose?


  77. lobo91
    78 | December 23, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Can we deport Lawrence O’Donnell, too?

    LAWRENCE O’DONNELL: Here is the lobbyist for mass murderers, the only lobbyist that mass murderers have, calling actors, actresses, people whose pensions might be invested in mutual funds, quote, “complicit co-conspirators” in these murders. […]

    What kind of desperate cornered rat would dare to mention that the Sandy Hook shooter could have used a more powerful bullet? […]

    Wayne LaPierre is the lobbyist who made it possible for the mass murderer in the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater to be able to shoot and kill and wound so many people without reloading even once.

    The law Senator Dianne Feinstein pushed through Congress in 1994 made large capacity ammunition delivery systems illegal. Wayne LaPierre made them legal 10 years ago. Wayne LaPierre made no public statement whatsoever after the movie theater mass murder, after that mass murderer so successfully used the weapon systems that Wayne LaPierre made available to him.

    O’DONNELL: Every day since 1977, Wayne LaPierre has been making sure that mad men in America can fire any gun they want, and any bullet they want, at any children they want, at any teachers, at police officers, at the president. […]

    It is now impossible to count how many people Wayne LaPierre owes an apology to. There are all of those who have been killed by weapons that became available after he made sure the assault weapons ban would not be renewed. There are the parents of the dead, the brothers and sisters of the dead, the children of the dead. […]

    I know that it’s pretty difficult for a public figure to win a libel or slander case, but it might be worth his time to pursue one here. This is ridiculous.


  78. yenta-fada
    79 | December 23, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Seems like we’re talking about “laws” here. Move along…nothing to see.


  79. huckfunn
    80 | December 23, 2012 4:43 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    I just wanna die…I’m dead

    did yer boyz lose?

    They did. But, tomorrow will be another day… next year. :sad:


  80. 81 | December 23, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ Macker:

    Mack -- can you resend to home? Can’t access the office email today.


  81. heysoos
    82 | December 23, 2012 4:44 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I just wanna die…I’m dead

    did yer boyz lose?

    yeah, but they went down swingin…it takes a lot out me…
    I swear, I get too deep in


  82. brookly red
    83 | December 23, 2012 4:46 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I just wanna die…I’m dead

    can I have his watch?


  83. 84 | December 23, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Done!


  84. 85 | December 23, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    After Selznick’s search for “Scarlett” and his casting of Vivien Leigh, Southerners were heard to remark -- better an English girl than a Yankee.” I think filmmakers in this country don’t hold a high opinion of OUR actors, unless it’s that despicable prick Sean Penn.


  85. brookly red
    86 | December 23, 2012 4:51 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Can we deport Lawrence O’Donnell, too?

    LAWRENCE O’DONNELL: Here is the lobbyist for mass murderers, the only lobbyist that mass murderers have, calling actors, actresses, people whose pensions might be invested in mutual funds, quote, “complicit co-conspirators” in these murders. […]

    What kind of desperate cornered rat would dare to mention that the Sandy Hook shooter could have used a more powerful bullet? […]

    Wayne LaPierre is the lobbyist who made it possible for the mass murderer in the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater to be able to shoot and kill and wound so many people without reloading even once.

    The law Senator Dianne Feinstein pushed through Congress in 1994 made large capacity ammunition delivery systems illegal. Wayne LaPierre made them legal 10 years ago. Wayne LaPierre made no public statement whatsoever after the movie theater mass murder, after that mass murderer so successfully used the weapon systems that Wayne LaPierre made available to him.

    O’DONNELL: Every day since 1977, Wayne LaPierre has been making sure that mad men in America can fire any gun they want, and any bullet they want, at any children they want, at any teachers, at police officers, at the president. […]

    It is now impossible to count how many people Wayne LaPierre owes an apology to. There are all of those who have been killed by weapons that became available after he made sure the assault weapons ban would not be renewed. There are the parents of the dead, the brothers and sisters of the dead, the children of the dead. […]

    I know that it’s pretty difficult for a public figure to win a libel or slander case, but it might be worth his time to pursue one here. This is ridiculous.

    I don’t know, a foreign national publicly attempting to subvert our constitutional law? And he is not even with the UN? I think we need to make an example of this butt plug.


  86. yenta-fada
    87 | December 23, 2012 4:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    I just wanna die…I’m dead

    can I have his watch?

    Wanna come to Toronto and stay with us for the zombie apocalypse? You seem to have the requisite skill set. :-)


  87. 88 | December 23, 2012 4:52 pm

    @ Macker:

    Just got it. Big hugs and a thumbs up to ya, Mackie!


  88. brookly red
    89 | December 23, 2012 4:53 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Anti-government facebook posts get military vet detained.
    http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/profiles/blogs/outcry-after-military-veteran-detained-for-anti-government
    Heads up.

    Raub’s supporters characterized the detention as an arrest, complaining he was handcuffed and whisked away in a police cruiser without being served a warrant or read his rights. But authorities say it wasn’t an arrest because Raub doesn’t face criminal charges.

    huh? looks like an arrest to me. so do they get to hold him for 7 days like the brits used to do in ireland?

    sounds like a kidnapping to me…


  89. yenta-fada
    90 | December 23, 2012 4:53 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    After Selznick’s search for “Scarlett” and his casting of Vivien Leigh, Southerners were heard to remark — better an English girl than a Yankee.” I think filmmakers in this country don’t hold a high opinion of OUR actors, unless it’s that despicable prick Sean Penn.

    There are a lot of good actors out there. Seems to me it’s about WHO you know. Why should Hollywood be different than Washington or Wall Street?


  90. heysoos
    91 | December 23, 2012 4:56 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    After Selznick’s search for “Scarlett” and his casting of Vivien Leigh, Southerners were heard to remark — better an English girl than a Yankee.” I think filmmakers in this country don’t hold a high opinion of OUR actors, unless it’s that despicable prick Sean Penn.

    There are a lot of good actors out there. Seems to me it’s about WHO you know. Why should Hollywood be different than Washington or Wall Street?

    I agree, all three are fake, made up and can contort into whatever suits them


  91. brookly red
    92 | December 23, 2012 4:56 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    I just wanna die…I’m dead

    can I have his watch?

    Wanna come to Toronto and stay with us for the zombie apocalypse? You seem to have the requisite skill set.

    I am qualified to be a Canadian? I don’t know if I should be insulted or not :)


  92. 93 | December 23, 2012 4:57 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Hey I’m thinking about getting my Enhanced Driver’s License tomorrow….


  93. coldwarrior
    94 | December 23, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ brookly red:

    The Men Behind The Wire

    (P McGuigan)
    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire
    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire

    In the little streets of Belfast
    In the dark of early morn
    British soldiers came arunning
    Breaking little homes with scorn
    Hear the sobs of crying children
    Dragging fathers from their beds
    Watch the scene as helpless mothers
    Watch the blood fall from their heads

    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire
    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire

    Not for them a judge or jury
    Or indeed a crime at all

    Being Irish means they’re guilty
    So they’re guilty one and all
    ‘Round the world the truth will echo
    Cromwell’s men are here again
    England’s name again is sullied
    In the eyes of honest men

    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire
    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire

    Proudly march behind our banner
    Proudly march behind our men
    We will have them free to help us
    Build a nation once again
    On the people, step together
    Proudly marching on our way
    Never fear or never falter
    Till the boys come home to stay

    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire
    Armoured cars and tanks and guns
    Came to take away our sons
    But every man must stand behind
    The men behind the wire


  94. yenta-fada
    95 | December 23, 2012 5:00 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Hey I’m thinking about getting my Enhanced Driver’s License tomorrow….

    Is that something that allows you to drive a truck?


  95. brookly red
    96 | December 23, 2012 5:03 pm

    well, first they come for the guns, then they burn churches….

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/23/2-alarm-fire-damages-brooklyn-church-just-ahead-of-christmas/

    seems like history does repeat it self.


  96. yenta-fada
    97 | December 23, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ brookly red:

    It’s harder to get into Canada if you have skills. It’s been that way for decades. If you lose your skills and change your name to Mohammed, you might have a chance. It is NOT an insult. *yankee*


  97. brookly red
    98 | December 23, 2012 5:05 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Macker wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Hey I’m thinking about getting my Enhanced Driver’s License tomorrow….

    Is that something that allows you to drive a truck?

    no it gives you privileges that you pay for… so much for equal protection.


  98. Buckeye Abroad
    99 | December 23, 2012 5:09 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Well Done Harry!

    Prince Harry in Taliban ‘kill’ mission
    Prince Harry is thought to have killed his first Taliban fighters as he flew to the rescue of a patrol that had come under attack.

    I always did like him.


  99. coldwarrior
    100 | December 23, 2012 5:11 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Well Done Harry!
    Prince Harry in Taliban ‘kill’ mission
    Prince Harry is thought to have killed his first Taliban fighters as he flew to the rescue of a patrol that had come under attack.
    I always did like him.

    he’s more of a man than his dad could ever dream of being


  100. coldwarrior
    101 | December 23, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ brookly red:

    driving is a privilege not a right.


  101. Buckeye Abroad
    102 | December 23, 2012 5:15 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Indeed. I was going to quip, “I wonder how his old man feels about it”, but I think Harry doesn’t give a rats.

    Did you ever make it up to south Armagh when you were on the sod?


  102. brookly red
    103 | December 23, 2012 5:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    driving is a privilege not a right.

    no driving is a right, being able to afford a car is a privilege, get it right or obamaphones will turn in to obamamobiels real quick… and yes the will be Volts.


  103. coldwarrior
    104 | December 23, 2012 5:17 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Did you ever make it up to south Armagh when you were on the sod?

    all over, even went to the falls and shankill roads, and occupied derry


  104. coldwarrior
    105 | December 23, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ brookly red:

    driving is not a right.

    and it is not right to drive a volt


  105. coldwarrior
    106 | December 23, 2012 5:19 pm

    heh…15month olds and spaghetti…

    bath time!


  106. brookly red
    107 | December 23, 2012 5:20 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    driving is not a right.

    sure it is, same as property ownership… now can you afford to do either is the question


  107. heysoos
    108 | December 23, 2012 5:24 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heh…15month olds and spaghetti…
    bath time!

    bath time is the best…my daughter used to spend an hour in the tub…go for a swim, wash her hair, order dinner for two, serve it using all these tub utensils, everything smothered in soap foam…I’m not sure my son even cared to be clean, he disregarded tub time altogether…kids


  108. RIX
    109 | December 23, 2012 5:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I have the Wolftones CD. Goes great with liquor.


  109. heysoos
    110 | December 23, 2012 5:28 pm

    the Ravens just got mugged…refs stole a cool TD from them


  110. darkwords
    111 | December 23, 2012 5:45 pm

    @ 76 coldwarrior: That’s insane. The shrinks and the arresting leaders all need to be canned and have sued to no tomorrow.

    Michelle Malkn routinely gets worse threats than this and she bears it in good grace.


  111. darkwords
    112 | December 23, 2012 5:45 pm

    The facebook badge never likes to load. Replace with text link.


  112. darkwords
    113 | December 23, 2012 5:48 pm

    @ 48 heysoos: Romo looks like a winner to me this year. If they can make the playoffs and get over the yips they can go all the way I think.


  113. coldwarrior
    114 | December 23, 2012 5:49 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    the Ravens just got mugged…refs stole a cool TD from them

    refs better watch it or they’ll get shanked by ray-ray


  114. darkwords
    115 | December 23, 2012 5:50 pm

    NYG are done.


  115. coldwarrior
    116 | December 23, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ darkwords:

    the aclu should be all over this


  116. coldwarrior
    117 | December 23, 2012 5:51 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I have the Wolftones CD. Goes great with liquor.

    pints of guinness have been clobbered by me in the presence of the wolf tones.


  117. darkwords
    118 | December 23, 2012 5:52 pm

    Robert Stacy McCain ‏@rsmccain
    Alabama’s next victory is scheduled Jan. 7, when they’ll beat Notre Dame so bad it will make the Pope cry. #RollTide @BeccaJLower


  118. darkwords
    119 | December 23, 2012 5:52 pm

    @ 116 coldwarrior: I guess I DO need to go out and buy a gun.


  119. tunnelrat
    120 | December 23, 2012 5:54 pm

    Vikings upset the Texans in Houston today and could make the playoffs this year following a 3-13 season in 2011!


  120. Buckeye Abroad
    121 | December 23, 2012 5:55 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    all over, even went to the falls and shankill roads, and occupied derry

    Same. I was dating a girl not far from Crossmeglan for a couple of months and met some interesting people during my weekends up there.


  121. coldwarrior
    122 | December 23, 2012 5:55 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 116 coldwarrior: I guess I DO need to go out and buy a gun.

    might come in handy


  122. coldwarrior
    123 | December 23, 2012 5:56 pm

    tunnelrat wrote:

    Vikings upset the Texans in Houston today and could make the playoffs this year following a 3-13 season in 2011!

    quite a turn around


  123. coldwarrior
    124 | December 23, 2012 5:57 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    i had a ball up there. the brit army pulled me over and gave me a hard time. its was a hoot.


  124. RIX
    125 | December 23, 2012 5:59 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I have the Wolftones CD. Goes great with liquor.

    pints of guinness have been clobbered by me in the presence of the wolf tones.

    That is a good evening, I do it myself.


  125. coldwarrior
    126 | December 23, 2012 6:00 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Same. I was dating a girl not far from Crossmeglan

    mine was from kinsale


  126. Buckeye Abroad
    127 | December 23, 2012 6:02 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    i had a ball up there. the brit army pulled me over and gave me a hard time. its was a hoot.

    Doppelgängr-ing bastard! Same here

    I was driving up on a Friday night and took a back road I knew to the border right before sundown. British paras had a checkpoint and I had a hard time explaining the german plated Ford, Ohio driver license and no passport on me.


  127. Buckeye Abroad
    128 | December 23, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    mine was from kinsale

    Been there several times--most recently 2009. Lovely place. I always fancied Donegal myself or at least anything north of Galway.


  128. coldwarrior
    129 | December 23, 2012 6:07 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Doppelgängr-ing bastard! Same here

    I was driving up on a Friday night and took a back road I knew to the border right before sundown. British paras had a checkpoint and I had a hard time explaining the german plated Ford, Ohio driver license and no passport on me.

    irish plated mercedes, pa and international license, american passport with an irish national with german work permits.

    the kosbies (kings own scottish borderers) pulled over. we had just played rugby against them a few months ago before they left berlin for belfast/n ireland.

    i told the soldier about it and he got someone who was on their rugby team to come over and check me out. we recognized each other instantly as the yanks and the kosbies got along famously in berlin. we were free to go after that.


  129. coldwarrior
    130 | December 23, 2012 6:08 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    mine was from kinsale
    Been there several times--most recently 2009. Lovely place. I always fancied Donegal myself or at least anything north of Galway.

    donegal and galway are just insanely beautiful. a post card everywhere you look.

    many many months and months spent in kinsale/cork


  130. Buckeye Abroad
    131 | December 23, 2012 6:13 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    i told the soldier about it and he got someone who was on their rugby team to come over and check me out. we recognized each other instantly as the yanks and the kosbies got along famously in berlin. we were free to go after that.

    F’cking brilliant.

    The paras basically asked me, “what the hell I was doing here” and told them I was seeing a girl over the ways. They asked, “what do you think of this place?” I told them it was disneyland. They laughed and sent me on my way.


  131. huckfunn
    132 | December 23, 2012 6:15 pm

    New reality show to preview in the near future:
    Klingons v Morlocks. Who we gonna pull for?


  132. coldwarrior
    133 | December 23, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    disney land

    :lol:


  133. RIX
    134 | December 23, 2012 6:21 pm

    At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?”

    “You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

    This is from the Wall Street Journal. Obama really gets away with things.


  134. coldwarrior
    135 | December 23, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    jposts website is so hard to read, its soooooo busy.


  135. coldwarrior
    136 | December 23, 2012 6:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?”
    “You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

    This is from the Wall Street Journal. Obama really gets away with things.

    until the spineless punks that lead our congress stand up and be men nothing will change. we are led buy wimps.


  136. Buckeye Abroad
    137 | December 23, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    many many months and months spent in kinsale/cork

    Ah.

    Dated a lass from Carlow once as well-- there is a reason why the N7-N9 went around it.


  137. RIX
    138 | December 23, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    We are in serious trouble.
    Time to throw some dead animal on the grill. See ya.


  138. coldwarrior
    139 | December 23, 2012 6:26 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    :lol:


  139. Buckeye Abroad
    140 | December 23, 2012 6:26 pm

    Getting late and I need to cook a turkey tomorrow. Night all.


  140. coldwarrior
    141 | December 23, 2012 6:28 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    i have to work tomorrow and christmas day.


  141. huckfunn
    142 | December 23, 2012 6:29 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    jposts website is so hard to read, its soooooo busy.

    I agree. It’s crazy. Try this. Put one hand over your bad eye and try reading with your good eye. If that fails, update yer cheaters. I love this medical banter.


  142. huckfunn
    143 | December 23, 2012 6:38 pm

    I hope today’s Saints win will prove therapeutic for Lily.


  143. Buckeye Abroad
    144 | December 23, 2012 6:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Sorry to hear that. As tomorrow is “catholic Christmas” as the wife says, I have to cook and I’ll do mass on the 25th. She cooks on the 7th and we all do Orthodox mass together.


  144. 145 | December 23, 2012 6:41 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nice. A Heavy Metal Christmas Carol.

    “God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen” is probably my favorite Christmas Carol.

    Thanks Dorian.

    yes, thanks for sharing that with everyone Dorian. I was sitting in the theatre waiting for The Hobbit to start when I saw you had posted that. I’ll have you know i whipped out my headphones to listen to it right then.


  145. brookly red
    146 | December 23, 2012 7:01 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?”
    “You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

    This is from the Wall Street Journal. Obama really gets away with things.

    until the spineless punks that lead our congress stand up and be men nothing will change. we are led buy wimps.

    please you offend spineless punks, we are led by neutered dogs not worthy of their kibble. Crash it, burn it, own it. Have faith in God and let the chips fall.


  146. brookly red
    148 | December 23, 2012 7:28 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    GOP strategist, whip ally: Republicans need ‘cultural revolution’ with Kevin McCarthy as Speaker

    Oh crap.

    Bumr50 wrote:

    GOP strategist, whip ally: Republicans need ‘cultural revolution’ with Kevin McCarthy as Speaker

    Oh crap.

    at least… “what does that get me?” That get you the scorn of the taxpayer. Fuck the GOP I won’t send them one thin dime.


  147. Bumr50
    149 | December 23, 2012 7:30 pm

    Benkie said she thinks McCarthy’s “rock star” personality could spark a “cultural revolution” needed to lift the GOP out of its funk.

    “They got their rock star,” Benkie said, referring to President Barack Obama’s personality and how it attracts Democrats. “We need our rock star.”

    “I think he’s got that rock star quality like Obama does. We need someone like that on our side,” she said. “Who is it? In my opinion, Kevin is.”

    “I’ll tell you what, too: the left-wing media would have trouble with Kevin. He’s very likeable. He’s good-looking, likeable, sharp, gets it.”

    “It reminds me a little bit of Obama,” she said. “Here’s Obama – who has a terrible record economically, I mean we’re in the pits, and the guy gets re-elected easily? But politically you got to give him credit. Obama has a special way – he sort of has a rock star quality about him. He’s really good with people. Kevin’s got some of that same talent. You know, some people just have it.”

    Benkie said Republicans have to find a way to make being conservative “cool.”

    “This is why the Breitbart thing, I get,” she said. “We’re like cool conservatives, you know what I mean? That’s where, and maybe this is the answer, a lot of Republicans are culturally just inept. I like Kevin because maybe he can close that culture gap.”

    OK.

    I agree that the GOP most definitely could BE “cooler.”

    But I’m pretty sure that anybody or anything that actually IS “cool” doesn’t go around saying that it thinks it needs to be “cooler.”

    Right?

    Or maybe I’M not cool…

    Just thinking aloud on a dead thread.


  148. Bumr50
    150 | December 23, 2012 7:33 pm

    @ brookly red:

    It’s like watching the slowest train wreck ever.

    I’m not sure if these are death throes or growing pains with the GOP.


  149. 151 | December 23, 2012 8:01 pm

    You may be witnessing the start of the revolution…


  150. 152 | December 23, 2012 8:19 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    PJ O’Rourke made being Republican and conservative cool for my generation. We need the equivalent for the kids coming up.


  151. waldensianspirit
    153 | December 23, 2012 8:35 pm

    Romney didn’t want to run for president, son says
    well thanks a lot asshole


  152. Bumr50
    154 | December 23, 2012 8:38 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Nothing against McCarthy, but I don’t think that we can “create” a rock star like the left did with Soetoro.

    I’ve heard the man,thought he made sense, but most definitely didn’t think “rock star,” but hey, people watch reality TV for their music these days so maybe it would work…


  153. 155 | December 23, 2012 10:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Cornel West: ‘Coward’ Obama Doesn’t Care When ‘Black Folk’ Get Shot, Only When ‘Vanilla’ Children Do.
    and the professor is correct on that one.
    I’m not sure that Obama actually “cares” about either. Suburban white kids dying are more useful for his purposes, though.

    He doesn’t care about kids -- or about human life at any stage.


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